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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with i R Radio. What a day it is to

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Speaker 1: be alive and why because it's Bachelor Tuesday, Ashley, I

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Speaker 1: can Eddie. How you doing? Hey, I'm so good. How

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm super good. I'm actually right now in Sebastian, Florida. Sebastian,

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Speaker 1: Florida is the home or my great grandpa bought his

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Speaker 1: retirement home, and then my grandfather, his brother, his sister

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Speaker 1: of the the Higgins side of the family where they

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Speaker 1: where they've retired to. And so I'm down right now

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Speaker 1: visiting my great aunt. And Jessica came down to spend

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Speaker 1: the weekend with me as well. That's so nice. Yeah. Hey,

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Speaker 1: before we started, I've got to talk about myself for

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Speaker 1: a second. It's something that which one the golf tournament. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I gotta talk about it. It's a huge deal. So

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Speaker 1: if you're out there and you're like, then I don't

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Speaker 1: want to hear you talk about yourself. This isn't fun

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Speaker 1: for me. Yeah, well it's really fun for me. So here, um,

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Speaker 1: my dad, my mother, uh, and Jessica and I all

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Speaker 1: spent the last week in Orlando, Florida at the Diamond

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Speaker 1: Resorts Tournament of Champions. Here's what it is. It's a

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Speaker 1: celebrity tournament and an LPGA tournament side by side. I

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Speaker 1: have to think the podcast because I think the only

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Speaker 1: reason I'm still invited into these celebrity tournaments is because

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Speaker 1: of this podcast. I think because it's it's wild to me.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I had to play along. My group had

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Speaker 1: Larry the Cable Guy, Marcus Allen, Heisman Trophy winner, Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer. I also had Joe Carter. I I mean,

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Speaker 1: I played along, and then I also played along some

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Speaker 1: of these LPGA professionals. It was an amazing week. My

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Speaker 1: goal was to break eighty one of the days, and

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Speaker 1: my very last day actually I shot a seventy eight,

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Speaker 1: which for me and tournament play is incredible. Um, and

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Speaker 1: I got to have my dad caddying for me all week.

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Speaker 1: Jessica walk in the Ferriyes, my mom. Is amazing week.

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Speaker 1: I'm so pumped. That's why I'm such a good mood

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Speaker 1: today because it was something to be talked about. Ben.

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy for you. Um. We should be happy

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Speaker 1: for ourselves collectively because we were nominated for the I

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Speaker 1: Heart Podcast Award in the Pop category. We did a

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Speaker 1: whole marathon of the show the other day without you,

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Speaker 1: and you were greatly missed. My throat was sore after it.

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Speaker 1: We didn't win, But I know this isn't such a

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Speaker 1: cliche Hollywood phrase, but it was pretty cool to be nominated.

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Speaker 1: Did it feel cool when you were there? I mean

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Speaker 1: I was down here playing in this tournament, so I

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Speaker 1: wasn't able to make it, but was it cool to

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Speaker 1: be there? Yeah? So, like a little Bertie's had kind

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Speaker 1: of told me beforehand that we didn't win, because you know,

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Speaker 1: we are an I Heard podcast, we kind of have

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Speaker 1: like insider knowledge is who's gonna win who's not. So

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Speaker 1: like I knew going into that, so I wasn't like

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Speaker 1: can't even imagine us winning and you're not being here,

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Speaker 1: that would be crazy. But when we heard our names, sir,

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Speaker 1: when I heard my name and then Caitlin heard her name,

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Speaker 1: like right next to our podcast, it was a really

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Speaker 1: cool moment. I was like, oh my goodness, I feel

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Speaker 1: to be to feel seen, I think in any part

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be our last. Ashley or

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Speaker 1: it feels like the podcast just continues to grow. Who

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Speaker 1: Who Who won the category the Breakfast Club podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure if you've ever heard of that before. Jared, Yeah, Jared,

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Speaker 1: so that they were they were a good one to

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Speaker 1: of our best. That's really cool. Yeah, awesome. So what

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Speaker 1: did you learn from this, like marathon of a podcast?

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Speaker 1: Anything cool to talk about, to recap and kind of

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Speaker 1: point people back to listen to that episode. Well, if

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Speaker 1: you guys are Gray as Anatomy fans, Tanya, Becca and

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Speaker 1: I did a lot of venting over how this show

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Speaker 1: it was strong. It was strong, and it wasn't It

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Speaker 1: wasn't solely about the Bachelor. Yeah, well, this podcast is

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Speaker 1: about the Bachelor Day. We have a lot to talk

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Speaker 1: want to talk Luke pe If you forget who he is,

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Speaker 1: he's the villain from Hannah season. We have some massive,

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Speaker 1: massive news when it comes around Peter Webber. But before

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Speaker 1: we get to all these things, Oh my god, wait

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Speaker 1: And he said Fairfax And I was like, well, there's

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Speaker 1: talk Peter over season of The Bachelor. Actually, you are

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Speaker 1: very well, and I know I can count on you too.

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Speaker 1: So the first story headline is going to read out

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Speaker 1: during the SAG Awards interviews. I mean, actually, every week

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Anderson was my childhood crush. I adored her. To

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Speaker 1: Jennifer Anison mean by this, there's not much to go

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Speaker 1: I read this headline again. I know nothing about this,

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Speaker 1: of course, one of Justin's great loves. You know, she

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Speaker 1: Haley and Selena and the The source says that they've

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Speaker 1: been spending a lot of time together, but they're not

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Speaker 1: about fifteen. Yeah, so no, wonder Yeah, it's not like

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Speaker 1: know what, good for Lupie. We wish him the best. Um,

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Speaker 1: his time on the Bachelor, Uh, it makes sense. His

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Speaker 1: Caitlin Beatles. Who knows where it goes. We hope it

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Speaker 1: goes somewhere good. Um. Chris Harrison says hosting the Bachelor

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Speaker 1: from People dot Com. I mean, I'm sure it's true

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Speaker 1: how this podcast played or how this episode played out,

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00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 1: and then we have a lot to talk about because honestly,

428
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,399
Speaker 1: an hour, like Ashley said, was designated to a Leia

429
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 1: Victoria gets the one on one date. This week they

430
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: go line dancing. It was your I think Actuley I

431
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 1: would describe it your is your typical week three one

432
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: on one? It was good. Uh. I feel like she's

433
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:36,400
Speaker 1: gonna be around a long time. They have a lot

434
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,159
Speaker 1: of potential. There doesn't feel to be a lot of

435
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 1: negatives to their relationship. However, I don't think I was

436
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: convinced that she's the one after one one on one day,

437
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 1: Like the sparks didn't fly like you have seen with

438
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: like the Nick and Vanessa's right, you said it perfectly.

439
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: I watched this. I was like, oh, they have something

440
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,520
Speaker 1: to build on. This is not his wife, but she'll

441
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: go far. And then I think it was blatantly obvious,

442
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: um that there chemistry doesn't even compare to Madison's chemistry.

443
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 1: When we see Madison at the pool party and they're

444
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: like forehead to forehead and the most intimate moment ever,

445
00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: and he's telling her that the date that they had

446
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: was the greatest first date of all times. So it

447
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: was like, okay, so yes, Victoria, p uh, it was

448
00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: a nice date. But I don't I don't see I

449
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 1: don't say whoa you know what I did say well

450
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: over though, is who Victoria p is as a person,

451
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: her story, how she has uh kind of fought through life, UM,

452
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,360
Speaker 1: overcoming the passing of her dad and her mom struggle

453
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: with addiction, UM, keeping her family together, being the rock

454
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: for her family through it all. Uh. I know through

455
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: that she mentioned that she never felt worthy for a

456
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: guy like Peter. But I'm telling you right now, Victoria

457
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,160
Speaker 1: pe if you listen to this podcast at all, which

458
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised when I get messages from some of

459
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: the some of the contestants saying they do listen, you

460
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: are definitely worthy of a guy like Peter. You're worthy

461
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: of anybody like your story. Just who you are and

462
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: what you represent is something to be admired, and that

463
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: is something to be celebrated. I'm gonna second you on that.

464
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: She's so sweet, so beautiful, and I just can't believe

465
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: how many times she's like shocked that a man will

466
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: will treat her the way that Peter has been treating her.

467
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: It's just it's really sad. I'm like, girl, come on,

468
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,440
Speaker 1: know you're worth that's it. No, you're worth. That's a shirt.

469
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: Maybe that's our next almost famous shirt is No, you're

470
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: Worth's cute. Yeah, yeah, almost famous. No, you're worth Uh.

471
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: Then we move into the group date. I mean there's

472
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: a lot that kind of happens in between. We're gonna

473
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: package all the Laias stuff up in one conversation here

474
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: at the end. Should we start to get hints from Alaia?

475
00:26:55,280 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: But the group date has Kira, Sarah, Tammy, Kelly Shy

476
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 1: and Sydney and a Laya on it. The clue is

477
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: I love surprises. I hope you do too. Here's the thing.

478
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: We wake up or the girls wake up in the morning,

479
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: and I guess we wake up in the morning with

480
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: him watching the show to Demi not Lovado is back

481
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: with Champagne and Killer. She's waking the girls up for

482
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: this date. Demmi has had multiple reappearances in the last

483
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: two seasons on this show. Ashley, Why I mean, is

484
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 1: Demmy being set up to take over Chris Harrison? No,

485
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: we all know that's your position. If I don't know,

486
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: Demmi does great. She was crushing it and we I've

487
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: never remembered a contestant being brought back as many times

488
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: they brought her Dimmi back. Yeah, Demi is just shameless.

489
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: She just says everything that no one else well, and

490
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: she just brings a lot of energy to an episode.

491
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: So I think, like, if they want like a lighthearted, fun,

492
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, be a bitch type feel, that's who they're

493
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: going to call in, you know. And they went into

494
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: a pillow fight. It was supposed to be playful, and

495
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: it was also supposed to be like, I'm gonna beat

496
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: you up, and it ended up being people beating themselves up.

497
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: There's a gift out there going around of one of

498
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: the girls I think it was Sarah Ce getting her

499
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: head rocked by a pillow. We're watching it at here

500
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: in Florida, and I was watching my family and Jessica

501
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: and we were all like, this seems intense. There was

502
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: also this like weird level where at some point I

503
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: forget who said it. Maybe it was um Kelly, I

504
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: forget her name. At this point, she says, nobody wants

505
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: to see their attorney dressed in lingerie having a pillow fight.

506
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: Do you I mean, do you agree? Are these moments

507
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: you've been on the show before? Are these moments that

508
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: you start to feel uncomfortable or do you think you

509
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: just run into it saying Hey, whatever happens happens. I

510
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: feel uncomforable. I mean that I felt for her act

511
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 1: because she does have a very powerful law firm in Chicago.

512
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: I've heard that like that family does quite well, and

513
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: she's one of the more down to earth, serious girls.

514
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: I really like Kelly. She's so easy to watch, so

515
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: confident in herself. But I can see not being super

516
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: cool with being in your enjoy in a pillow fight.

517
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: But I think you know it's one of those things

518
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: you're not gonna fight it. You're on the Bachelor. What

519
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: do you expect? You know when you sign up you're

520
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to do stuff like that. You're gonna to

521
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: do something, uh that that feels a little uncomfortable. Well,

522
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: this was an intense group date, all ding it up

523
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: um to a really really competitive engine ending where Aliah

524
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: wins the pillow fight and wins time with Peter. But

525
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: as we know if you've watched the episode Alias, time

526
00:29:55,640 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: on the show does not end well. Actually, here's my

527
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 1: question for you, after watching this group date, after seeing

528
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: how it plays out, seeing the chaos that ensues around it,

529
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: and then seeing Sydney in a sense call a laya

530
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: out at the cocktail portion of the night, is this

531
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean, what I have in my notes here is

532
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: have these girls not learned their lessons? But yet this

533
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 1: time it worked where Sydney obviously kind of I guess one,

534
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: is this something that will just continue to happen? Why

535
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: do girls continue to do this and what and why

536
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: do girls do this thinking that this is the right

537
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: move for their relationship with Peter well as somebody who's

538
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: definitely guilty of it during my time, I'm just the

539
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: kind of person who can't hold back, Like if somebody,

540
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 1: if I think that somebody is fake and somebody is

541
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: just acting completely different in front of the love interests

542
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: and they are without the love interest in their presence,

543
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: I've good. I have like I'm compelled to say something

544
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: and it's so bad and it's kind of well, it's

545
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: not so bad. It's actually it's not so bad. It's

546
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: something that I wish I could have more control over,

547
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: but I don't. And maybe Sydney's the same. Um, it's

548
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: just like a compulsion to kind of like take their

549
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 1: blinders off, like you really just want them to see

550
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: the person the way that you're you're seeing them, and

551
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: you truly don't trust the person you're talking smack on um.

552
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 1: I think that you're right. It's probably never to the

553
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: benefit of the relationship between you and the lead. However,

554
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: in this case it was an exception to the rule.

555
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: For sure. Peter handled us completely differently than so many

556
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 1: other leads have in the past. Most of them get

557
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: turned off when you know, you come to them with

558
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: drama about somebody else or disliking somebody else. But Peter

559
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: really saw it as Sydney looking out for him, which

560
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: is a nice way of looking at it. I have

561
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: some thoughts further on me on the topic. I don't

562
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: like the way that he called Sydney out for it

563
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: in front of the whole group. If you wanted to

564
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: even pull both girls aside, that would have been fine.

565
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: And then I also don't even think he should have

566
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: eliminated her in the end. But we'll get to that

567
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: a little bit. What do you think. Well, yeah, So,

568
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: to summarize this episode, at this point, Victoria p gets

569
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: the rows. She stays with Peter after the one on one,

570
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: the group day starts up and is one of those

571
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: first couple of week group dates. You know, they always

572
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: try to get creative. It's always something weird. This time

573
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: it was a pillow fight uh in lingerie, all ending

574
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: up with the Leah winning and then that the cocktail party. Uh.

575
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: That night we sit here now with the leg and

576
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 1: call out by Sydney for being fake. We have this

577
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: really weird passive aggressive conversation that we watch between Sydney

578
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: and Leah, where Sydney is asking do you feel like

579
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: you have to put on a show for the mass is?

580
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: Do you feel like because you're pageant history you always

581
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: have to say the right things? And I actually in

582
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: this part that now I would typically right now, my

583
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: guard goes up and I go, Okay, let me watch

584
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 1: for who I'm in favor of this moment right sideOr La,

585
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: and I'm watching this, I'm going even if Leia is fake,

586
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: I have to give her the benefit of doubt for

587
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,719
Speaker 1: admitting it. She's not lying. She's saying, Hey, it's just

588
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,959
Speaker 1: something I've been trained to do. Just like sometimes when

589
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 1: we get in front of a camera and we've been

590
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: through PR training, or anybody say, you're working for your company,

591
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: you have to give a presentation. All of a sudden,

592
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: there's a switch that gets turned on and you turn

593
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,520
Speaker 1: something on like you do act a little different. You

594
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: cover up some things. Maybe you aren't as Lucy goosey,

595
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 1: and you say things a little more respectful or appropriately

596
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: in those moments, just based on the situation you're in.

597
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: Alia didn't shy away from that, and I had to

598
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 1: give her respect to say, hey, yeah, even though you

599
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: do are admitting that you put on a face in

600
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 1: front of the map, you aren't lying that you don't

601
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: love that about yourself. Yeah, she's definitely very polished. She's

602
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: very image conscious, and that's something that yes, has always

603
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: rubbed me the wrong way watching the show, being part

604
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: of the show. That's just not my cup of tea.

605
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 1: She's not going to be my friend. But even though

606
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: she's not gonna be my friend and I'm more of

607
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: the Sydney in the situation she is, the fact that

608
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 1: he eliminated her based on hearsay and just the fact

609
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: that she's a little bit more put together than the

610
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: other ones are is just I thought it was kind

611
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: of ridiculous, especially since he wasn't like she wasn't taking

612
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: somebody else's spot. In the rose ceremony, we see Chris

613
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 1: Harrison takeaway a rose because he truly didn't want to

614
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: give the other girls a rose, so it wasn't like

615
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: she was taking anyone else's spot. He should have kept

616
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: her around for another week at least so he could

617
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: really see for himself if there was an overbearing facade

618
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: to get to know her more. Because even when Victoria

619
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: p said, because I mean, yeah, we're getting a little

620
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: out of ourselves here. But um, at the rose ceremony,

621
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,240
Speaker 1: the cocktail party, the pool party, whatever, he pulls Victoria

622
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: P side to talk about Aliah and she goes, yeah,

623
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 1: I knew her before, and she told me not to

624
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: tell the producers that I knew her before. And I

625
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 1: actually think that's not a red flag at all. And

626
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: Alia's excuse for it was perfect. It was I thought

627
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: that if we it was known that we knew each other,

628
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: that there was a higher chance of us both not

629
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: getting casted. And I think, totally legit. Do you think

630
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: that's totally legit? I do. I mean, if I was,

631
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,959
Speaker 1: Peter would not have gotten rid of Alia. So here's

632
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: my like what I think happened. I wonder if Peter

633
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: just Peter just wasn't that into a Leia at some

634
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: point during this week and he knew he had to

635
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 1: get like all of this, like hearsay and chaos had

636
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: gotten so much inside of his head that he was

637
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: kind of over it, and he just said, I'm done,

638
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: Like I just need to get rid of the situation

639
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: because it's not She's not the one for me, Like

640
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: I know there's somebody here that I'm gonna be with

641
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: more than a land. Yes, I might want her run

642
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: for a few more weeks because she's interesting, intriguing to me,

643
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: but she's not the one for me. So I'm just

644
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: gonna cut it. Cut it off here. But here's my

645
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: critiques for Peter. And it was the first time I've

646
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: had major critiques for Peter. I know you probably hated

647
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: when he called out Sydney. Oh Peter. If Peter's on

648
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: here right now, I would say, that is the craziest

649
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: thing I've ever seen. Why do you call her out

650
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: in front of the group. Don't do that. That is

651
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: I've always said what makes a great bachelor's how they

652
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: handle difficult situations. And I think the one of the

653
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: worst ways to handle difficult situations is to provide any

654
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: opportunity to heighten the argument, and I think in front

655
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 1: of a group, it only provides an opportunity to kind

656
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: of heighten the emotions of everybody. It puts everybody on

657
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: the fence. It makes everybody feel a little awkward, makes

658
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: everybody a little hesitant. It is not fair. Now pull

659
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: them aside together, pull them up the side, one on one,

660
00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: whatever you need to do, but never never kind of

661
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: walk into conflict and confronted in front of the group. Peter,

662
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: that is your first big mistakest I still think you're great,

663
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: You're gonna be great, but that is the first big

664
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 1: mistake that I think. It was super awkward to watch

665
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: and just not smart. Yeah, we see that. Can we

666
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: see that? La comes back and I don't know if

667
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 1: it's next week's episode, but in the coming season, And um,

668
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: it looks this is my me putting together the puzzle pieces.

669
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: It looks as if she comes in during the middle

670
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: of a group date, and then while she and Peter

671
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: are away talking, the other girls get up from the

672
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: couches and they're like over it done, and then he's

673
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: left at a group date that has been taken away

674
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: from him. Muh huh. Well, I got a bunch of

675
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: tweets um this week's saying. I can't wait to hear

676
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: Ben talking about how much self describing happened on this episode,

677
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to talk about it because every

678
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 1: time I do, all of you little trolls come out

679
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: and you start going stop. I've describing, but there was

680
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: a lot of it. It didn't make me happy, and

681
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy it any more than I did two

682
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: years ago or last year. If why I actually have

683
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: a question for you now that I've gotten that off

684
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: my chest because I had to talk about it. It

685
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,720
Speaker 1: was ridiculous how many people were describing themselves. Um, but anyways,

686
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: why are pool parties never parties? I hate the pool parties?

687
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: If you guys remember why they have them, I don't know.

688
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: It's week three every single season. Now it's predictable. It

689
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: was week three. I'm my season. Would you remember if

690
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: it was a week here in your season? We never

691
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: I don't think we ever had one. Really. Oh, I

692
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: hated mine. I don't know if you guys remember not

693
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: to talk about myself, but I could not stand the

694
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: fact that I couldn't do my car Dashian makeup that night.

695
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: I had a look that I planned for that night,

696
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: the outfit, the makeup, and then they're like pool party

697
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, are you kidding me, you guys.

698
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: I thought I had all day to chill, all day

699
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: to get myself put together, and now you're gonna just

700
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: spring this on top of me. The water is too

701
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: cold to go into. If you guys are familiar, like

702
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: pool temperatures six five, and I'm assuming it's like, is

703
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: not a comfortable swimming temperature, and it's like the first

704
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: week of October, last week of September. It can be

705
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: hot here, but it's not scorching. People were running the

706
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: pool because it was too cold. The hot tubs also cold.

707
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: The hot tub was hot for us, well, hot tub

708
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 1: was cold for us. There was no enjoyable like water.

709
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 1: Like when they said pool party, I knew exactly well

710
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 1: because Tanner was on my season and so Tanner was

711
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: the expert in all things Bachelor, and so they said

712
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: pool party. Um, like just for the guys. Caitlin was

713
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: even invited overs. They're like, jump in the pool, and

714
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: Tanna's like, something dramatic is gonna happen, something weird is

715
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: gonna happen. But I don't think we ever ended up

716
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: having a pool party. I don't remember it. Usually I

717
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 1: think the pool party happens. Um. They they do the

718
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: pool party so that there can be like extended druma

719
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: on an episode, because I think they last a little

720
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: bit longer than the nighttime cocktail party. Yeah, it just

721
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: drags on. It's just weird too, because then like Peter

722
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 1: has to just kind of be bouncing from girl to

723
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 1: girl as like the other girls kind of like lay

724
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: at around the pool like they're enjoying themselves. Like this

725
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: isn't a party. Like if I've ever been invited to

726
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: a party where a bunch of people cry, complain, yell, scream,

727
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: and have to watch one dude make out with like

728
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: that's a terrible party. There's nothing about that that represents

729
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: party to me. Yeah, and it was very bizarre for me.

730
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: We actually did get in the water, like there was

731
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: twenty two girls in the water with Cris souls and

732
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: it was just weird. We're like all trying to touch

733
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 1: him and like he's the only male in the pool.

734
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: It was like a little bit too Playboy asked for me, Oh,

735
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 1: that makes me feel so so much uncomfortable, all sorts

736
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: of uncomfortability, and now knowing Chris what he had to

737
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 1: feel like so weird. So Dolphin laughs so much uncomfortable this. Uh. Well,

738
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: so the breakdown of this episode is this, La is

739
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 1: now gone, uh, Sarah See is now gone, Alexa and

740
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,960
Speaker 1: Jasmine are all gone. We move on tweek four with

741
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: a really good group of women. I hope the drama

742
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 1: kind of slows down now. Week four and five are

743
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: always the weeks where we start seeing love stories blossom

744
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 1: and we start really investing into some of these characters.

745
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: So far, I can't say I've invested fully into anybody.

746
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: I do think Victoria was somebody I appreciated and would

747
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: love to meet and just learn from as a human,

748
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 1: But I think other than that so far, just like

749
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: most seasons, there's just a lot of drama. There is

750
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: one line of the whole show that stood out to

751
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: me at the very end of this episode that really

752
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 1: got under my skin and Ashley and listeners, I need

753
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: you to tell me if I'm crazy or not. But

754
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: Sydney has a interview and she says this line. She goes,

755
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: La is gone. I'm never going I'm never going to

756
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 1: go back on her on my opinion of someone. She goes,

757
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,600
Speaker 1: I'm never going to go back on my opinion of someone.

758
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: So she's pretty much saying she's happy she called a layout, which, hey,

759
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: I can't blame her for call lay out. She felt

760
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 1: like that was right. But I thought that line right.

761
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 1: There was a really hard line for me to process

762
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: that she would never go back on her opinion of somebody,

763
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: because how many times in my life have I assumed something,

764
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 1: have I thought some way about somebody, and then once

765
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 1: I got to know their story and who they are,

766
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: I started to love and appreciate them more. So I

767
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: thought that right, there was a really wrong comment to make.

768
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: That's a horrible comment to make. I didn't catch that.

769
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because the disclaimer. I put a disclaimer

770
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 1: at the beginning of my Cosmo article this week saying, like,

771
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: to all you girls who are part of the cast

772
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: right now, it's obviously very hard for me to critique

773
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: these episodes because it's gonna be all go and we

774
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: run into each other one day. But the but the

775
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: main part is that I'm going to run into you

776
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: one day, and you're gonna know me from critiquing you

777
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,400
Speaker 1: on the show and only what they aired from the show.

778
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: There have been so many people that I meet in

779
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: real life and my opinion on them completely changes, and

780
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: I think I've mentioned this before. It's not just from

781
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,840
Speaker 1: The Bachelor, It's even when I was obsessed with American Idol.

782
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: I used to like completely criticize these people their personalities

783
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: all on the show, and then I would meet them

784
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: on the summer tour and some of my least favorites

785
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 1: would become my favorites, and some of the people that

786
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: I really liked in the show would end up being

787
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: like just okay for me, because you really need to

788
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 1: get to know reality stars in person, and you guys

789
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: need to know that your opinion is most likely to

790
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: change on them. M hm, I agree, And so I

791
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: thought that, I mean, hey, that comment could have been

792
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: taken out of context, but for me, that was one

793
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: that I just did not appreciate and could not process. Hey,

794
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna go into some listener emails at that time

795
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: of the year before do let's take another break, will

796
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: come back with your questions, your thoughts, your concerns, your

797
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 1: critiques on this season of The Bachelor before we go

798
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: into emails. So I'm really excited we're doing We haven't

799
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: done emails and so long. I just want to bring

800
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: up something as part of the teaser this week is

801
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: that Victoria F goes on a one on one I

802
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: think next week, and she happens to run into one

803
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: of her ex is on the date, and he happens

804
00:44:54,239 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: to be one of the performers. Um, it's what's his name, Chase, right,

805
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: So Victoria F dated Chris Rice in the past. Of

806
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: course she gets put on the Chase Rice date and

807
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm living for the drama that is this, and I

808
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 1: feel so much pity for her having to go through it.

809
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: Her face when she walked around the corner and saw

810
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: Chaser Ice there was just awful, Like it just felt

811
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:28,359
Speaker 1: like her soul had dropped. Can you imagine that may

812
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: be the craziest one on one that's ever happened. Now.

813
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw this, but Chase your

814
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: ice head came out publicly and talked about this a

815
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: few weeks ago. Uh. He was at an award show

816
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 1: and he had commented on how just like awkward and

817
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: upset he was that this happened. I wonder if we'll

818
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: hear from Chase this week following the show, because I

819
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: bet he felt awkward as well. He was singing to

820
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: his ex girlfriend who was dancing with another guy. That's

821
00:45:54,520 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: not cool. Either Chase or Rice got produced. He got produced.

822
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: He didn't know. He didn't know that the next girlfriend

823
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: or a girl that like maybe wasn't even like an

824
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: official thing, but some girl that he like had hung

825
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: out before in the past, was going to show up

826
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 1: to his date. He was just as shocked as Victoria.

827
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: Victoria was it really really was. It is definitely gonna

828
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: be something to watch. It's going to get us all

829
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: hooked and intrigued. I cannot imagine it ends well, and

830
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: I can't imagine it's anything but awkward. I hope this.

831
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 1: I hope they didn't stand out and dance in front

832
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: of him, as he says song, because if they did that,

833
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: that would be so awkward, so so awkward. No, I

834
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 1: think that they probably end up talking, but maybe I

835
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: don't know if it's before after the dance. Actually it's

836
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: jumping the emails here here we got one from Gigi

837
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: says to producers till the lead of each season to

838
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: keep certain contestants such as the villain, on the show

839
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: for a given number of weeks just because they make

840
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: good TV and cause more drama, even though the lead

841
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: would rather not give them a rose. Also to producers

842
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: tell the lead in which order to distribute the roses.

843
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 1: I can answer this question. They definitely don't. Yeah, I've

844
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: been there before and I get this question a lot.

845
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: I always say this. The producers never told me who

846
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: to keep, but they always would tell me, hey, you

847
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,839
Speaker 1: should probably get to know this person more. You don't,

848
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 1: especially week one and two, you don't know these women

849
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: too well, and so that you would They would say, Hey,

850
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: this person is intriguing. Uh, it's a story you probably

851
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: want to hear. Keep them around to get to know

852
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: their story. But if I would say no, no, no,

853
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 1: I'm very confident I want to send them home, they

854
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: would have never fought me on that. That you just

855
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: would have tried. I mean, they can become your friends,

856
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:43,319
Speaker 1: your confidence, and so they're just trying to give you

857
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: the best advice possible, not only to help everybody uh

858
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: in the house, uh kind of keep whatever is going

859
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: on going, but also to help you find the one

860
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 1: for you. I never, looking back, felt led astray by

861
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: the producers. I always feel like they were honest with me.

862
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: I just had to kind of read the line. Sometimes

863
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: we saw Peter's producer talk to him. They broke the

864
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: fourth while yesterday which I love and said, we're like, yeah,

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00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: why did you send her home? I really don't think

866
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 1: that he was that she had encouraged him to send

867
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: a lay at home. I think she was truly confused

868
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: why he felt compelled to. Yeah, And I think that's

869
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: part of it. It's part of their job. Then this

870
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: producers to react. I mean, Peter gets to do what

871
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: he wants to do. There's no going back to if

872
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: he sends him me home unexpectedly. So I do think

873
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 1: what you saw there is a very similar conversation that

874
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: every lead is having after the rose ceremony. So where

875
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: the producers going, wait, why did you do that? That

876
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: didn't make any sense? Are you sure you wanted to

877
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: do that? Uh? And then also to the producers to

878
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: the lead in which order to st roses. No, I

879
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 1: mean there's there's always like different ways ago about it. No,

880
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: because then you watch sometimes and it's cut and edited

881
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: uh differently. It's never for it's always just up to

882
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: the lead to do this whole thing how they want

883
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: to do it. I just don't always read into it

884
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: too much. I want to lead give somebody the rose

885
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: last like, it doesn't always mean that that was the

886
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: last person on their list, Like, that's not the case,

887
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: so I don't read in that. Also, sometimes the rose

888
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 1: ceremony the way it airs isn't the actual way it

889
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: went down. For drama a fact, I think we can

890
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 1: say that. I need to also say that one time

891
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 1: I told Cris souls like early on because the first

892
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: two rows ceremonies, I got the rose like one of

893
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: the first three names that were called, and I told him.

894
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 1: Of course, week three, I go, hey, I love that

895
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: you give me the rose from me on I can relax.

896
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: And then of course of that week going forward, I

897
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: was second to last or last every other week. Yep,

898
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:56,239
Speaker 1: actually you just ruined yourself. He's probably like, He's probably like,

899
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: I had no clue I was giving you the rose.

900
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: I know. We've got multiple emails of people hoping that

901
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: my theory from the beginning of the season is accurate.

902
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 1: If you guys need a reminder my theory, it is

903
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: that that Chris Harrison comes up to Peter saying that

904
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 1: like Hannah one dancing with Stars, but she feels as

905
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: if nothing was complete because you weren't there. So there's

906
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:25,239
Speaker 1: lots of people hoping that the theory is true, and

907
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: this one comes from Kristen. It's a little bit of

908
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: a spin on my own, it says. My theory is

909
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: that Hannah contacts the producers on the last day of

910
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 1: filming and tells them, I need to try this relationship

911
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: with you before you get engaged, so please don't get engaged.

912
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:46,400
Speaker 1: Hannah explains that she would have been there in person

913
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: had it not been for her commitment to Dancing with

914
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: the Stars. Bachelor filming wrapped on November and Dancing with

915
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 1: the Stars wrapped on November, so that does um kind

916
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:01,200
Speaker 1: of poopoo on my own theory, or that she had

917
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: one Dancing with the Stars already. She didn't actually win yet,

918
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: but she was in the finale. Um. Kristin continues to

919
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 1: say that I think after that bombshell, Peter begins to

920
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 1: date Hannah in real life alongside the final pick from

921
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: this season. This is also consistent with my theory. She

922
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: says that there will be no engagement, so he eliminates

923
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 1: all the what ifs. Chris Harrison has been teasing that

924
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: the show isn't really over yet a k Peter is

925
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: still feeling out these relationships in real life, or at

926
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:39,720
Speaker 1: least that's what Kristin believes. That reminds me that, you, guys,

927
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: I sneezed in the middle of my vows. Remember that

928
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,799
Speaker 1: Ben wasn't that cute? I definitely remember that, and it

929
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: was cute. You handled it really well, and I thought

930
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna be sad that that happened. I thought it

931
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: was kind of cute. And my final note from Kristen

932
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 1: is that Peter has been in the most inclusive Bachelor yet.

933
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: What is she talking about there? I think what she's saying,

934
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 1: he's like he's like the one that is like the

935
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,400
Speaker 1: most decisive, Like he he makes these decisions and he

936
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,520
Speaker 1: sticks to them. I think that's where that's coming from.

937
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: Like he's the one that is like the clearest to

938
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: understand where he's sitting at at all times. I'm imagining,

939
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm imagining that this. I mean, people are

940
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: gonna be Peter fans. Uh. This is all going to

941
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: be a wild ride. It is crazy how nobody knows

942
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: how this ends and they're sticking to that, and there

943
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 1: hasn't been any rumors spread yet. We're all kind of

944
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: assuming and thinking through stuff. But I have a feeling

945
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: that they're gonna make Peter look super, super confident and

946
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: decisive up until the very last couple of weeks, and

947
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, we're gonna san because he's

948
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 1: Peter's even hinted at it that it looks a lot

949
00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: like my season did, so he's gonna get really confused

950
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,279
Speaker 1: at the end, and confusion at the end is never

951
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 1: fun for the lead, but really entertaining to watch. Yeah,

952
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,720
Speaker 1: I'm really excited. It's so cool not to be spoiled free.

953
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: And you guys, we never seek out spoilers. It's actually

954
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: y'all that ruined it for us. Sometimes I'll get comments

955
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: under my Instagram being like, you know it's so and so,

956
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: or actually, haven't you heard from so and so that

957
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: it's this, And I'm like, no, I've been trying to

958
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 1: prevent hearing that. So it's really cool that this season, um,

959
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: there's no accidental spoilers for for us. Right, so, so far,

960
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: here's my grade of Peter Weber. I like to do

961
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: this every Bachelor season. I think he's doing great. I

962
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: think he's in the first couple of weeks, which are

963
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 1: always the hardest. There's a lot of chaos going around

964
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: around him at all times. He made a big mistake

965
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: by confronting Sydney in a leia in front of the

966
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: other women. But other than that, the guy is thriving

967
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: in his role as the lead, and I think we're

968
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 1: all enjoying watching We're enjoying talking about it here in

969
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast. But we want to hear from you,

970
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,239
Speaker 1: so please email us at Ben and Ashley at i

971
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 1: heeart media dot com, or hashtags on Twitter at Almost

972
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,240
Speaker 1: Famous Podcasts. We love hearing from you, We love reading

973
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: your insights and your stories, and we love talking about

974
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: this show along and along with you because if not,

975
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,319
Speaker 1: we just feel like we're talking about the show to

976
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 1: each other, and well that's not half as fun. So hey,

977
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: continue to keep it up. Peter's Journey for Love continues

978
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: next week on ABC. Until then, I've Been Been, I've

979
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: Been Ashley. See you guys. Follow the Benn and Ashley

980
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981
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