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Speaker 1: He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt uh Good Wednesday to you. Middle of

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Speaker 1: the week here, and we're getting closer and closer to

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Speaker 1: the opening of Steelers training camp. That's just three weeks away. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: how about that. You know, we're we're buzzing right along here.

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Speaker 1: In a way. I need to take these three weeks

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Speaker 1: and make him count, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 1: all these things on my list I always think about

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Speaker 1: during the season, like got the car inspected this weekend,

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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. You know, that's just gonna be

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Speaker 1: hard to do going forward. But I'm ready for new

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Speaker 1: football too. I Mean, there hasn't been good news in

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Speaker 1: a while. There's very little roster movement. Everyone's on vacation.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready for something new to talk about. Ye. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of vacations, I will be on vacation next week. UM.

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Speaker 1: I believe you have another vacation coming up here the weekend.

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Speaker 1: I do, um the week after, so I guess we'll

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Speaker 1: have to put some things in you and I have

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Speaker 1: to discuss what we can get recorded and what we

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Speaker 1: can't and um, all those good things, because I we'll

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Speaker 1: try to do shows. I don't know if you hear them,

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll try to do them, um matt. On

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Speaker 1: the other day, I wrote an article on on d

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Speaker 1: K Pittsburgh Sports about the offenses in the a f

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Speaker 1: C North, and I ranked I ranked each unit, um

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Speaker 1: going through the quarterback, running back, all that stuff, all

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Speaker 1: the way through the offenses. And I just want to

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Speaker 1: go over those and see if you agree with me.

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Speaker 1: If you didn't agree with me, let's talk about where

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Speaker 1: you would put some of these rankings at. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: soon we'll start a quarterback, right we always do. And

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Speaker 1: I'm in the least say the hardest team in the

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Speaker 1: league is in this division. To what you do about

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Speaker 1: the Browns, I'm working on the assumption that DeShawn Watson

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Speaker 1: is going to miss time this year. And if DeShawn

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Speaker 1: Watson miss his time this year, as I expect, and

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Speaker 1: the whole year. So I have Ravens Bengals, Steelers Browns,

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Speaker 1: Ravens Bengals, Steelers, Browns, and I got some push I

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Speaker 1: got some pushback about having the Bengals second. But here's

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Speaker 1: why I put the Bengal second. See if you agree

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Speaker 1: with me on this one. Now, I don't love Tyler Huntley,

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Speaker 1: but he has value. But he has value. I like

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Speaker 1: him better than Brandon Allen, who is the Bengals backup.

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Speaker 1: I do too. I mean, they don't have to take

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Speaker 1: your offense to you know, if as we saw last

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Speaker 1: year when Lamar Jackson got hurt and missed the last

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Speaker 1: five games of the season, the Ravens didn't have to

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Speaker 1: change their offense. Now, they weren't as good, but that

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Speaker 1: was as much because the defense is anything. They could

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Speaker 1: play the same style of football, whereas the Bengals would

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Speaker 1: not be able to play the same style football at

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Speaker 1: Brandon Allen at quarterback. They would not be able to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball at the time with Brandon Allen. Very

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Speaker 1: fair point. I mean, I would go so far as

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Speaker 1: to say the Ravens can win games with Huntley. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe not for a seventeen game stretch and be in

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Speaker 1: the thick of things, but if he misses, you know,

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Speaker 1: Lamar's out a month. They're in better shape than most teams,

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Speaker 1: better shape than the Bengals. I still would have Cincinnati one. Um.

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Speaker 1: set the backup. Yeah, I think they definitely do. And

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Speaker 1: it's a weakness to the team and it's something to

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Speaker 1: is unafraid of taking hits. He is very, very tough,

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Speaker 1: the everyone blames their old line last year, but some

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Speaker 1: of those are quarterback sacks. You know, they're not necessarily

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Speaker 1: guys getting beat left and right. Um, But I think

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Speaker 1: And I think people realize this about me though. I

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Speaker 1: mean I'm considered somewhat of a Lamar apologist. I mean

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Speaker 1: I think as a passer, people are way too hard

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Speaker 1: deal for the Ravens and that's gonna be making him

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Speaker 1: some of it's on Lamar too, where he now has

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Speaker 1: but Burrows won. Did Brian Flores expose that? We'll have

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Speaker 1: the Steelers exposed that over the years. I guess it

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Speaker 1: done that in some ways because they were more aggressive

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Speaker 1: what I say. That man just came after him. Yes,

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Speaker 1: you just came after him. Here's why I say that

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Speaker 1: because Lamar only played in three games after that Dolphins game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: outside the norm for them against Lamar. No, they get

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Speaker 1: so he didn't play in that one. The Ravens won

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Speaker 1: But he's only sacked twice in that game. And then

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Speaker 1: at that point he was four for four or seven.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I mean, I think Brian Hey,

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Speaker 1: Brian Flores deserves credit for what they did in that game.

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins did. They beat him twenty two to ten,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that he didn't that he did anything

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Speaker 1: to him. I mostly agree, and I mean, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to remember that Dolphins Ravens game a little clearer. They

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Speaker 1: say they're blitz packages. Were more than five guys too

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Speaker 1: a lot. But here's what Here's what the Steelers have

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Speaker 1: against him, an extra outside linebacker on the field against him,

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Speaker 1: and again rushed the passer. They don't back off from

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Speaker 1: rushing the passer against him. So you're looking at again,

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Speaker 1: a multiple you know, a five or six man front,

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Speaker 1: and oftentimes they're all coming right. But I think, I think,

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Speaker 1: I think what Flourishtive maybe built off of what the

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Speaker 1: I think you're right about that. You know, like, if

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Speaker 1: you like all coaches do, well, let's study the games

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Speaker 1: where Lamar had the toughest time. Wow, it just so

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Speaker 1: happens over the last three years, three of those games

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Speaker 1: they doing? You know they know him better than I do.

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Speaker 1: Coach Tomlin knows a thing or two. Maybe we could

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Speaker 1: stealers or trust. Well, maybe against the current receiver, but

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Speaker 1: in most years, Marky's Brown and those guys, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to totally leave them alone. Um, this isn't a

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Speaker 1: without question make it a priority to hit Lamar more

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Speaker 1: they they make him feel at the next day. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So the worst for Lamar Jackson and the Ravens was

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Speaker 1: the Steelers adding Brian flourish to the coaching staff because

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Speaker 1: The Steelers are beating them four straight four straight times,

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Speaker 1: I mean, and they beat Lamar up. They whoever the quarterback,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, they beat him up. Um. So just interesting.

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Speaker 1: ask Brian, I'm gonna though back to your rankings, slam dunk,

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Speaker 1: and I do appreciate the hunt league, you know, added

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Speaker 1: juice there. I'm just super high on Burrow and I'd

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Speaker 1: pick him over again for some of these, some of

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Speaker 1: these are much closer than others, Like I know, they

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Speaker 1: have to do rankings like for example. So now we're

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Speaker 1: moving on to running backs. This was is extremely difficult

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Speaker 1: in this division. Okay, real quick, I'm quarterbacks though, I'm

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Speaker 1: with you that the Browns are last, but I am

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Speaker 1: and I think there's a chance Jimmy ends up there.

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Speaker 1: giving up more draft picks for another quarterback. That's the thing, like,

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Speaker 1: just take your lumps this year and you'll deal with

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Speaker 1: it because you've you've given up three first round draft

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Speaker 1: But we don't want him on the field of snaps,

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Speaker 1: I don't fight you on Ravens versus Steelers. I would

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. Street here's why I have the Ravens. Three.

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley hasn't played a football game of three years.

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Speaker 1: the best of all the team's depth in the division. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't disagree with that. I just yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think. Mean to me, I can't

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Speaker 1: but it's been a while. And again you know the

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Speaker 1: anything like that. He's just not doing anything that doesn't

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Speaker 1: bode well. No, I mean to me, that's we've the

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Speaker 1: words we both said on this this podcast is this

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Speaker 1: the league that no one's talking about. Yeah, no, I

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Speaker 1: It doesn't. Yeah. I mean, if he's back and he's

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Speaker 1: them at number two. But I don't know that right now.

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Speaker 1: And I'm with you too. I mean, we remember talking

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Speaker 1: You know, they couldn't be any different stylistically or size,

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Speaker 1: not at all similar eating habits, right, not thinking about

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Speaker 1: Did you kind of create them all? Like at them

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Speaker 1: up or whatever? I just kind of looked at it,

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Speaker 1: looked at him the grand scheme of things. Obviously, quarter

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Speaker 1: but I have the banal important the tight end, right, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I had the Bengals number one, the Ravens number two,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers number three, the Browns number four. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean if Watson, of course, I mean, I guess this

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Speaker 1: a great human being and playing for the Browns right now,

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Speaker 1: I would trade the Steelers offense for the Browns offense.

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Speaker 1: But now it's not close only because of Watson, you know, right,

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Speaker 1: the quarterback carries a lot of weight and he's a

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Speaker 1: great player. Yeah, you know I would not trade all

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Speaker 1: my guys for all your guys offensively. If I were

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Speaker 1: the Steelers, I would not Yeah, nor would I. Um,

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Speaker 1: so that's what. That's what. So the Steelers come out

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Speaker 1: of that third um, which I think they can live with.

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Speaker 1: I think if they have the third best offense in

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Speaker 1: looking at it in front of me. It's definitely the

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Speaker 1: cheapest and it has to be the youngest. Yeah, since

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Speaker 1: he's pretty young too, but it has to be the youngest. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's the cheapest offensive league and it's like

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Speaker 1: the youngest offensive league. Jacoby, here's what he can't put

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Speaker 1: the Browns ahead of them. And here's why Jacoby processed

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Speaker 1: fourteen and twenty three and his career as a starter. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in the two years where he's been the primary starter

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Speaker 1: a fan, but the book is written on him. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's just he's the guy. Yeah, he's a

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Speaker 1: career backup. Who's he's like a two A yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's tough, he's big, he's strong. People think

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Speaker 1: he's really athletic. He's okay, athletically. I mean he came

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Speaker 1: into run plays because Philip Rivers can't move at all,

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Speaker 1: but most teams. Is not more athletic than the starter, right,

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Speaker 1: and he's a little bit of a slow processor. Not

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Speaker 1: a great timing and rhythm guy. You know. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna need that old line to be top notch. He

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Speaker 1: is get hit a lot and they're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: run the football a lot, a lot a lot. There

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Speaker 1: will see a lot of stack boxes. Yeah, that's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for for this segment. So we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: a break here. You're listening to the Drive on Steelers

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Speaker 1: Nation Radio. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Leally.

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