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Speaker 2: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up

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Speaker 2: straight Firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: December twentieth, have an awesome midweek podcast for you. You're

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Speaker 2: gonna love this. Today's guest. It's not just geared toward

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Speaker 2: LA but California, and there's a tinge of college football.

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Speaker 2: Steve Hartman, longtime voice of sports radio in LA in

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Speaker 2: San Diego. He's on Fox Sports Radio. He's fantastic. He

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Speaker 2: about him and somebody I know who heard a take

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Speaker 2: he had recently about the Chargers. You're gonna it's kind

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Speaker 2: of mind blowing stuff. But he's got inside background. He's

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Speaker 2: been following the team, knows the team knows people who

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Speaker 2: Muffett as the Jim Harwall. Stuff ain't good. It's first

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Speaker 2: staying at Michigan. It's looking heavily like Chargers right now.

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Speaker 2: And it's not that doesn't have everything to do with

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Speaker 2: the Chargers. But I'll let you listen to it and

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Speaker 2: find out why. Before we get to Steve Hartman, a

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Speaker 2: quickly just do a couple minutes on the NBA. Listen.

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Speaker 2: Ordinarily a Tuesday night game in the NBA in December,

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Speaker 2: no big deal, NBD, right, But because Joah Morant returned,

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Speaker 2: I thought it was newsworthy to talk about it. It

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Speaker 2: just so happens that after the Memphis Grizzlies trail by

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Speaker 2: twenty four points in the first half, ja Moranco's postal

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Speaker 2: in the second half, a dizzying array of drives, floaters,

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Speaker 2: for thirty four points in thirty five minutes, including the

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Speaker 2: game winner at the buzzer, and Memphis wins in New

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Speaker 2: Orleans by two. Just a listen, tremendous finish, a good storyline.

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Speaker 2: The NBA could use his shot in the arm. You know,

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Speaker 2: the n season tournament ends and it's kind of like, Okay,

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Speaker 2: the horizon. That he got the trade deadline. This was

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Speaker 2: a nice respite from the negativity around the Grizzlies. They

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Speaker 2: were six and nineteen coming into this game, a total

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Speaker 2: train wreck. Listen. Desmond Bane's an excellent player. He's a

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Speaker 2: really compete. They got injuries all over the board. Steven

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Speaker 2: This kid, Vince Williams twenty three years old. I mean,

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Speaker 2: does anybody even remember him from VCU? He started last night? Really,

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Speaker 2: So Ja Morant a huge, huge boost for the Grizzlies

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Speaker 2: and the NBA. Really, now, it was supposed to be

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Speaker 2: a showdown Jaw against Zion Williamson. Of course, Zion Williamson

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Speaker 2: was the number one pick. Jaw went two. When they

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Speaker 2: Ja Morant ascends, Oh, Jaw, what's better? You should have

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Speaker 2: quite eating his way out of the league, but he's

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Speaker 2: the night, shall we say, in New Orleans. He's just

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Speaker 2: now back. Now hopefully John Moran will have cleaned up

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Speaker 2: his act a little bit off the court. We know

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Speaker 2: he got into the study. You know, he was trying

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Speaker 2: don't think that works. You're not a gangster, you're not

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Speaker 2: and Eminem calls him out Papa Doc. They basically were

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Speaker 2: year old Ja Morant, that's awesome. You know what you're

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Speaker 2: gonna age. The injuries take their toll, and all of

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Speaker 2: John Morant an electrifying talent, obviously twenty six points a

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Speaker 2: out of trouble. Job a nice return. NBA loved it.

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Speaker 2: NBA got a good Celtics Warriors was tremendous theater. How

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Speaker 2: season tournament. I'm having fun. I hope you guys are too. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: You know a guy Jason likes to think he knows

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Speaker 1: everything when it comes to sports.

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Speaker 2: I know what sports fans want, but for.

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Speaker 1: Everything he doesn't. He knows a guy who does. Let's

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Speaker 1: just say I know a guy who knows a guy

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Speaker 2: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. A radio legend

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Speaker 2: let's just say, a character listened and then came to

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Speaker 2: one to pull punches recently, I didn't even tell you this.

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Speaker 2: Let me just go ahead and introduce the legend Steve Hartman,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Steve, how you doing, Jay Mac? Everything is good and

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Speaker 1: by the way, nothing changes for me, especially when I

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Speaker 1: get to go off on people I really despise. Oh here,

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Speaker 1: and that starts with one Dean Spanos, the uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. I have a long history with that guy.

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Speaker 2: I know. Before we get to that, I got to

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Speaker 2: and he said, did you hear Hartman what he said

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Speaker 2: Coast forever. And his big thing was Hartman essentially is

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Speaker 2: claiming that the NFL made the Spanos his fire Brandon

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Speaker 2: you know the Charges as well as anybody in sports media.

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Speaker 2: Let's start there with the Chargers. If you want to

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Speaker 1: All right, So let's do a quick background on the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: So I understand this. When we launched the legendary Extra

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Speaker 2: Well, they have the hold on hold on hart Man,

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Speaker 1: Here's a fact, Jason, in the twenty years that the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the number of unsolicited phone calls I received in

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Speaker 2: So you just say, fans out here don't care at

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Speaker 2: As Where would you say the hub? Wasn't it New York?

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Speaker 2: Okay, hold on, let me ask why would they want

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Speaker 2: I'm a New Yorker. I think New York center of

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, but I mean La is La. I

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Speaker 2: So, Hartman, are you of the belief that the NFL

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Speaker 2: think the the NFL can. I don't want to. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely they can. You know, again, let's go back

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Speaker 1: we want we liked you in San Diego. Here's what

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Speaker 1: Exactly, Michael. In fact, when I first got hired and

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Speaker 2: So how is you're forward thinking? How do we and

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Speaker 2: I would say build a winner, but the Rams did that,

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Speaker 1: let's put it this way, and this is no lie.

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Speaker 1: when Tom Telesco was let go as well. Because in

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Speaker 1: John Spanos's best friend is Tom Telesco, now the former

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Speaker 1: than ever that the NFL said enough is when Telesca

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Speaker 2: I don't think he could overcome that, do you? And again,

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I agree, I mean Quentin Johnson can't

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Speaker 2: Look, Jason Jackson, hold on, hold on Jayson Jackson like.

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Speaker 2: he has not been great this season, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: How many times has he had an opportunity to bring

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Speaker 2: He has not been great to season, But I would al,

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Speaker 2: I'll defend Herbert. I mean it supporting cast has been garbage.

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Speaker 1: That Kella Moore wants that Carolina job. Kellamore is gone.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, look look at kell Keller. The

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Speaker 1: to bring a little diversity to the offense. What's happening

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Speaker 1: to Justin Herbert is exactly what happened to Philip Rivers

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Speaker 1: at the end. When Frank Ryan took over as the

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator of the Chargers, he basically handed them all

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Speaker 1: their Philip Rivers, who wanted to do nothing more than

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Speaker 1: throw the football on every play, did that, and they

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Speaker 1: were losing games frequently. Now, I ain't got Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: I put it out there on my social media that

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Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is Philip Rivers two point zero. He's the

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Speaker 1: exact same quarterback. You you honestly think that Herbert is

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Speaker 1: a better quarterback than Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 2: Herbert is an massively better athlete Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: You you asked me, is he a better quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Well, obviously, mobility matters a lot. Rivers is very limited

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Speaker 2: arm strength, Herbert, agility, running away ability, herbert like accuracy.

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a toss up. Obviously, Rivers

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Speaker 2: is a veteran and can make all the patses, but

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Speaker 2: come on, I think he will.

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Speaker 1: Be a lot of people. When I put it out

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Speaker 1: there was Philip Rivers two point zero. A lot of

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Speaker 1: people have said, don't insult Philip Rivers that way, But

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Speaker 1: I put it this way. These Charter fans that were

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Speaker 1: so enamora with Herbert a couple of years ago are

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Speaker 1: beginning to lose a little bit of the fervor for Herbert.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm with you. I'm not saying Justin Herbert doesn't

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Speaker 1: have a men's talent. He can make throws as good

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Speaker 1: as any quarterback in this league, but something seems to

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Speaker 1: be a miss. And so when I look at what

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Speaker 1: happened to Philip Rivers over the course of his career,

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Speaker 1: where he was still putting up numbers, but it wasn't

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Speaker 1: producing wins, that's the same pattern I'm seeing right now

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Speaker 1: with Justin Herbert. So this really comes down to the

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Speaker 1: NFL getting back to the main point of why the

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Speaker 1: NFL intervened, and I one hundred percent guarant to you

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Speaker 1: they did, saying enough's enough. It is obvious that they

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Speaker 1: need the Chargers to succeed in Los Angeles. They are

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Speaker 1: taking up space in the number two media market in

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Speaker 1: the country. We cannot have an LA label on a

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Speaker 1: team that gets humiliated on national TV by a bad

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Speaker 1: Raiders team. What you're doing, charges organization, Dean Spanos and

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Speaker 1: Company does not fly with us. We have given you

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Speaker 1: a free ride, and your free ride is over. So

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Speaker 1: let's talk about Jim Harbaugh. So I was getting these

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Speaker 1: phone calls from people throwing out all these different names.

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Speaker 1: I can go there is only one name that will

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Speaker 1: move the needle, and that's Jim Harbaugh. He's the only name.

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Speaker 1: And did you find it interesting that John Spanos two

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Speaker 1: days ago, in addressing the media, was asked about any

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Speaker 1: kind of financial restraints when it comes to getting a

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Speaker 1: new coach or a new general manager, and he said,

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Speaker 1: apps absolutely not. Now, this has never come from the

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Speaker 1: lips of Aspanos before and didn't now because the NFL

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Speaker 1: is going to find a way to a payoff the

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Speaker 1: remainder of Stalium to Lesco's contracts and be whatever it

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Speaker 1: takes to get Jim Harbaugh to be on the Sidelines

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Speaker 1: or the Chargers in twenty twenty four. Michigan is offering

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Speaker 1: everything for him to say, can you imagine if they

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Speaker 1: actually win this National Championship, how the ante will go

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Speaker 1: to the next level. But the NFL is so desperate

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Speaker 1: to make the Chargers relevant in a huge market like

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Speaker 1: LA they will jump in and make it happen if

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Speaker 1: it can happen.

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Speaker 2: Okay, two things. Do you remember when the Raiders went

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Speaker 2: to Vegas? They needed to make a splash with a coach.

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Speaker 2: They go after Gruden pulled him out of the booth.

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Speaker 2: He had a ton of offers to come back. Gruden

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Speaker 2: comes out as with the Raiders when they go to Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Are you I mean, like again it sounds a little sinister,

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Speaker 2: but again, your new franchise, new city. You need a

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Speaker 2: face of the franchise like Herbert is. He's not doing

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Speaker 2: national commercials. He's a quiet guy. He's not out there

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Speaker 2: dating celebrities. He has like nothing knock him. But he's

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Speaker 2: not like a thing like justin. Herbert walks down the

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Speaker 2: street here and people don't know who he is. Now

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Speaker 2: you get Harball in there and it's a different story.

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Speaker 2: He is in your face. They'll say whatever. He doesn't care.

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Speaker 2: The media loves him. I'm kind of with you. I

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Speaker 2: would agree that Harball would make sense. Here's the kicker, though,

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Speaker 2: Michigan is offering the world, what happens if he's gonna

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Speaker 2: get slapped with an eight game suspension? Does this? Does

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Speaker 2: the NFL say, Hey, he's getting suspended over there, so

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Speaker 2: we got to suspend him here? Do they do anything

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Speaker 2: dumb like that?

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Speaker 1: Come on, this is a natural football league.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the problem they came out with the state.

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Speaker 1: Beel does what they want to do. There are no

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Speaker 1: rules in the NFL. You can talk about controversy or

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Speaker 1: after controversy that's involved the National Football League over the years,

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Speaker 1: and guess what, it never ever has an impact on

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Speaker 1: the people that matter most. So whatever it's going to

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Speaker 1: take to get Jim Harbaugh on the sidelines for the Chargers,

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Speaker 1: the NFL is going to do whatever it takes to

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Speaker 1: make that happen.

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Speaker 2: You can, Scott, but I'll just point out two people

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Speaker 2: reported Are you ready for this? Ian Rapaport and Tom

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Speaker 2: pellasarrow of you guessed it? NFL network? This is back

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Speaker 2: in and my computer slowly shit too load here. But

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Speaker 2: back in October twenty ninth saying the NFL is unlikely

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Speaker 2: to make itself a safe harbor for harball and may

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Speaker 2: force him to serve a suspension if the NCAA hands

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Speaker 2: down one. Now obviously the word is if, which is massive,

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Speaker 2: but I it almost feeds to your argument as the

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Speaker 2: NFL getting ahead of it. Hey, hey, hey, just so

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Speaker 2: you know, we may suspend him if he comes to

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Speaker 2: the NFL knowing that he's probably coming right. Yeah, are

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Speaker 2: you catching my drift? There?

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Speaker 1: I catch a drift. But you know, suspensions are just

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like he wasn't on the sideline

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Speaker 1: for the Michigan games. He wasn't coaching. He was able

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Speaker 1: to coach the entire week, but he wasn't there on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines of These suspensions are garbage, you know. Interesting. Yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: I mean that's where it's at. But it just again,

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Speaker 1: this is out of the frustration from the National Football

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Speaker 1: League of not gaining ground in the LA market. They're

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Speaker 1: holding steady. Like you said, there are Chargers spreading water.

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Speaker 1: My younger son is a die hard Charger fan. Would

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Speaker 1: never waiver to leave being a Charger fan. The Rams

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Speaker 1: have fans, you know, but it's not growing. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: and and so when when they do surveys, like I

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Speaker 1: focus on just the LA teams. But they conceded the

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Speaker 1: fact that when they do surveys of people in the

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Speaker 1: LA market that identify themselves as NFL fans, the Rams

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Speaker 1: fall maybe fifth or sixth as far as a fan base,

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Speaker 1: and the Chargers are not even in the top.

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Speaker 2: So let's go here. Let's say they cannot get Harba.

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Speaker 2: I know the Kevin warrenting in Chicago's out there. Let's

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Speaker 2: say Chicago gets Harbor. Who would be the second choice?

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Speaker 2: Somebody with a name, somebody with some pedigree, somebody with

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Speaker 2: some gravitas. Give me a backup, like I put I

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Speaker 2: put out there on the herd. I said, what about

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Speaker 2: Ryan Day? Offensive guy Ohio State. He's catching heat every

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Speaker 2: game he loses, He's on the hot seat. Nonsense, Chip

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Speaker 2: Kelly guy, Is that a spicy enough name or does that?

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Speaker 2: That probably doesn't move the needle in l right.

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Speaker 1: Ryan Day's not moving the needle and he might win. Belichick,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick wouldn't even move the needle. Why what what? What?

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Speaker 1: What is there a Bill Belichick? This is his eleventh

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Speaker 1: one playoff game victory. Just think about that, including his

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Speaker 1: five years in Cleveland, in eleven seasons, which included his

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Speaker 1: except for the first game they won eleven to five,

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Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs. And then obviously since Brady retired,

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Speaker 1: it's eleven years. And in those eleven years without Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady as this quarterback, he's won one playoff game. That

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Speaker 1: was back in Cleveland. So I mean, I mean some

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Speaker 1: people were like Lincoln Riley, I go Lincoln Riley. Lincoln

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Speaker 1: Riley is like a poor man Cliff Kingsbury guy. He's

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Speaker 1: the same guy. And he proved it this year. He

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Speaker 1: had the best quarterback in the country. All he had

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Speaker 1: to do was upgreatest defense and it went right into

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Speaker 1: the you know what, and you saw He's Cliff Kingsbury.

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Speaker 1: He's the exact same guy. He is a one note coach.

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Speaker 1: So Lincoln Riley is not. I don't want to see

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Speaker 1: a college guy. This team desperately needs someone that has

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Speaker 1: success at the National Football League level, and there aren't

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys out there that are unemployed, because

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Speaker 1: if you do have success in the NFL, you stay employed.

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Speaker 2: So is there even a third name you could go?

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Speaker 2: Is there anyone else that that that lights your fire?

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Speaker 1: No, there's nobody else.

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Speaker 2: So they got against.

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Speaker 1: Who is I mean, give me somebody that moves the

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Speaker 1: needle in a market like Los Angeles besides Jim Harvey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's difficult. All right, let me fire off some

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Speaker 2: other hot takes your way, shorter answers here, just whatever

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Speaker 2: comes to your head. Caleb Williams A. Will he be

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Speaker 2: the number one pick? B? Should he be the number

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Speaker 2: one pick? See? What do you think of him as

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Speaker 2: a pro?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Yes? And as a pro he's going to be phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: He has all the different skills necessary. This seven and

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Speaker 1: five season was hardly his fault. He was forced to

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Speaker 1: try to score fifty points in every single game to

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Speaker 1: keep his Trojans in the game every time. If you

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Speaker 1: watch Caleb Williams, his mobility, I mean, I know you're

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Speaker 1: in love with these mobile quarterbacks that can do this

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Speaker 1: guy can do every throw in the book. He is

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Speaker 1: probably physically one of the best top five quarterbacks I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Wow, top five ever ever.

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Speaker 1: Like we're talking l way with accuracy, We're talking about

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Speaker 1: and Andrew Lucke. We're talking about a guy who literally

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Speaker 1: checks every box in his potential. Now, you still have

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Speaker 1: to be in the right system, you still have to

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Speaker 1: have a supporting cast, but Caleb Williams is by far

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Speaker 1: the best quarterback in this draft.

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Speaker 2: That's a super spicy Take Lakers hanging in season banner

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Speaker 2: and you say, what.

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Speaker 1: It's embarrassing. In fact, you remember remember they initially said

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Speaker 1: they weren't going to hang a banner. This is again

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Speaker 1: where the league stepped in and said, your damn rights

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Speaker 1: are gonna hang a banner. Now, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: put it next to your championship banners, but we are

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent committed to this NBA Cup, So put

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Speaker 1: a banner up. Now. I will conceive this. The Lakers

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Speaker 1: have put up a banner, but they said that will

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Speaker 1: only be one banner for the NBA Cup. I think

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Speaker 1: if they win more of these they'll add to it.

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Speaker 1: But that that was more Adam Silver intervention telling the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: we need you to pup this up. You're the Lakers

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Speaker 1: make a deal out of this, even if it's short term,

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Speaker 1: even if it's for one night, put up a stinking

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Speaker 1: banner and we're done with it. That's why they put

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Speaker 1: up the banner. Nobody gets a crap about an NBA

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Speaker 1: tournament in the month of November and December.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was I thought it was awesome. Final story,

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Speaker 2: Let's go with Shohei Otani to the Dodgers. Dodgers were

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Speaker 2: not great this year. Over Underworld Series titles with a

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Speaker 2: Tani for the Dodgers one point.

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Speaker 1: Over under one, here's you're over under. I'll put it

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Speaker 1: this way. So Tani, as great as he had six

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Speaker 1: years of the Angels, he had six losing seasons. He

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Speaker 1: just had three of the most remarkable seasons ever by

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Speaker 1: any player in the history of baseball, and they didn't

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Speaker 1: even win half their games. It also points out the

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Speaker 1: fact that this is a guy that's coming off a

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Speaker 1: second elbow surgery. Now, if you're a junk ball pitcher,

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Speaker 1: that's one thing. But when you throw the ball as

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Speaker 1: hard as show what you Odanni does, can you come

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Speaker 1: back after two blown elbows? That doesn't seem very likely.

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Speaker 1: And that's a lot of money to pay for a DH.

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Speaker 1: So my thing about Otani is from a marketing standpoint,

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers, as rich as they are, are only going

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Speaker 1: to get richer to show Hey, Otani. It makes all

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Speaker 1: the business sense in the world. But if you're a

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Speaker 1: Dodgers fan and you don't give a crap about how

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Speaker 1: much money the Dodgers have, and all you care about

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Speaker 1: is winning your first legitimate World Series since nineteen eighty eight,

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Speaker 1: then you have to be a little skeptical knowing that

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Speaker 1: the idea that Otani is going to return in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty five a dominant pitcher is wishful thinking. Not impossible.

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Speaker 1: He'll have the best people out there medically, but it's

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Speaker 1: wishful thinking he'll hit. But you also had a DHS

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Speaker 1: last year, Jady Martinez. I had thirty three homers under

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Speaker 1: three runs, batted in a five to seventy two slugging percentage,

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Speaker 1: So how much better is Otani going to be? From

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Speaker 1: a business standpoint, it's a genius move by the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: But for Dodger fans that think this is going to

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Speaker 1: mean they're going to rattle off World Series titles, I

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Speaker 1: hate the disappointment. I just don't see it.

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Speaker 2: I love to take Steve Hartman California Radio Ledge and

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Speaker 2: everybody knows it's San Diego, La. Love to take Steve

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Speaker 2: continued success. Then we'll talk to you soon, all right

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Speaker 1: Jay Mac, Thanks Man,