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Speaker 1: me that this game is filled with leeches, right, this

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Speaker 1: game is filled with parasites. One thing about a parasite,

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna keep explaining it, man, I don't have

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Speaker 1: time to. We run in the business. But it's a

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Speaker 1: the presented sponsoring things like that but in regards to YouTube,

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Speaker 1: Friday found rapper and single Tore Relays guilty on three

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Speaker 1: charges related to the July twenty twenty shooting a fellow rapper,

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Speaker 1: Meg the Stallion in the Hollywood Hills. The Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: County District Attorney told CNN Lanes has pleaded not guilty

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Speaker 1: to assault with a semi automatic firearm, carrying a loaded,

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Speaker 1: unregistered firearm in a vehicle, and discharge of a firearm

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Speaker 1: with growth negligence, according to the prosecutors. The jury convicted

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Speaker 1: him on all three counts. Megan accused Lays of shooting

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Speaker 1: her in the foot as she exited the vehicle they

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Speaker 1: had been rolling in. Following the argument and her testimony

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Speaker 1: during the trial, Megan said things were tinting the car

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Speaker 1: between her and Lanes. Her former friend and assistant Kelsey Harris,

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Speaker 1: reports the artists testifies Lanes wanted her to come clean

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Speaker 1: with Harris about the fact that two of them had

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Speaker 1: been intimate, but bill Board reports Megan was uncomfortable doing

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Speaker 1: so because she knew Harris had a crush on the

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Speaker 1: Canadian singing rapper. Meg said she exited the car and

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Speaker 1: Lane shot her. I started to walk away and I

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Speaker 1: heard Torrey Yale Dad's bits dance. Here's the key thing.

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Speaker 1: Lanes did not take the stand in his defense during

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Speaker 1: the nine day trial. To jury comprised the five million

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Speaker 1: seven women begin deliberating Thursday and the verdict was reached

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Speaker 1: on Friday. Very short, they mean they've ben't had their

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00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 1: mind made up. They were not confused like people thought.

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00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 1: Lanes was taking out the courtroom by bailiffs and handcuffs

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Speaker 1: after the verdict was read. So again, this is what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'll leave fake media nigga. Then why you

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00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: don't hear me talk about the account of ship. All

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00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 1: these fake media niggas was running around talking about how

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Speaker 1: confused these people was and how much they didn't know

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00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: and how much you know. Oh my god, it's over now.

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Speaker 1: Kelsey said that that shit is done, and I'm sitting

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Speaker 1: back like here, there's a lot of these people ain't

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00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 1: never been to court. I want to look at a

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Speaker 1: couple of things that happened in this case and kind

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Speaker 1: of give a summary, because again, if you look at

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Speaker 1: this that when that case is over, I need you

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Speaker 1: to still be able to have an experience on what happened.

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Speaker 1: So let's take a look. So since y'all host so

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00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: wearied about it, Yes, this Tory shot me. You shot me,

463
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Speaker 1: and you got your publicists and your people going to

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00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: these blogs lying is stop lying? It's Jay one if

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Speaker 1: the Tory Lanes trial for the shooting of Magan the

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Speaker 1: Stallion pepera Torrian Lands accused of firing five rounds at

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Speaker 1: the musician after she allegedly insulted him. No prosecutors say

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Speaker 1: this resulted in bullet fragments being lodged in her feet.

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Speaker 1: This alleged altercation happened back on July twelfth, twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: after a pool party at the Hollywood Hills home of

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Speaker 1: Kylie Jenner. Lane's is charged with assault with a semi

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Speaker 1: automatic firearm, personal use of a firearm, and intentional discharge

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Speaker 1: of a firearm. But actually last week prosecutors added an

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Speaker 1: additional third charge of negligent discharge of a firearm. It's

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Speaker 1: essentially an alternative to the assault charge. And I should

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Speaker 1: mention that mister Lane's faces a maximum of nearly twenty

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Speaker 1: three years in prison if convicted. If you watch that trial,

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Speaker 1: you can talk to me about that trial. Certainly if

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00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: you're a defense attorney, I can talk to you about

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00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 1: that trial. I'll tell you this about that trial. When

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00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: I heard Kelly's testimony from the defense attorney about the

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Speaker 1: fight between two women that went on for several minutes,

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Speaker 1: that the big guy had to break up, that the

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Speaker 1: one woman went back to the car, he saw a flash,

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Speaker 1: He saw what looked like the woman shooting into the car,

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Speaker 1: fireworks into the car. When I heard all that, to me,

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Speaker 1: reasonable doubt was there that was the pivotal seminal moment

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Speaker 1: in the courtroom. Then the prosecutor went out there, the

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Speaker 1: prosecutors and got him to say or I don't know

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Speaker 1: if the prosecutors said it, but it was the little

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00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 1: man shot four or five times and he was shooting

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Speaker 1: with his arms outstretched like this, and everybody's kind of like,

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Speaker 1: wait what, And you couldn't put the two together. And

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Speaker 1: in my head, I can really put it together. And

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Speaker 1: it was so the defense attorney started to put it together.

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Speaker 1: But the way it came out to the jury, the

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Speaker 1: way it came out on the transcript, I don't think

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Speaker 1: the jury is able to rectify or see a sequence

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Speaker 1: of events where the shooting starts with the woman and

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Speaker 1: put something other than in intent on the part of

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Speaker 1: the man to take out and shoot against a woman.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's what this trial came down to.

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Speaker 1: Prayers to Torrey's family. I saw reasonable doubt in that

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00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: trial the journey that they get it right, that they

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00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 1: get it wrong. They reached a verdict that that's what

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00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: verdicts art. It's really not about right or wrong. So

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00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot of the people that were at the trial

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Speaker 1: were reporting certain things from the trial on this side again.

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Speaker 1: That that's if you search forward, you saw both sides.

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Speaker 1: But if you went to that media that kind of

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00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: runs a certain section of hip hop, you kind of

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00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: saw what they felt like. Reasonable doubt was there. Again,

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Speaker 1: I never put an opinion out there because either way,

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Speaker 1: as a community, we lose. So I was never interested

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Speaker 1: in in in the verdict. I was just there to

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Speaker 1: see the circus, the people who was the blog sites

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Speaker 1: and how far they were willing to go. But Meg

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Speaker 1: took the stand. This is very important people understand a

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00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: lot of people just have not been in court and

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00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: so they have no real understanding of what these things mean.

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Speaker 1: When Meg came in and she took to stand and

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Speaker 1: she said that he shot her, that was a very

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Speaker 1: effective part of the trial. She definitively kept saying he's

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Speaker 1: shot he shot me, and they are lying on me.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, he has to get on the understand.

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Speaker 1: At that point, nobody can cancel Meg out except you.

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Speaker 1: And if my lawyer is advising me not to get

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Speaker 1: on the stand. And what I do every day is

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Speaker 1: deal with words. I'm a fucking word smith. I got

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Speaker 1: to get on the stand. Dog got to tell he

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Speaker 1: for what happened. If what happened, I can't let them

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Speaker 1: just imagine what it was like. I got to get

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Speaker 1: up there. She doesn't got up there. She didn't use

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Speaker 1: her style power. I got to use mine. If I'm

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Speaker 1: Tory Lanes, I'm telling my lawyer that, to me, that

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Speaker 1: was a mistake. Number two. What I think is he

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00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: turned down a year suspended. He tried to save his

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00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 1: career when he should have saved his life. But here

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00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: again they go that nigga logic. I know a bunch

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00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: of niggas say, bro, if they come at you right

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Speaker 1: before trial with a lone number, if folks ain't having none, bro.

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00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: So they run up on Tory with the year suspended,

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00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: and he tell them no, because he meant, you got

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars, you could have fought deportation. Every nigga

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00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: in the jailhouse would have told him get low and

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00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: gold man, you're meeting there. You can fight deportation some

547
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 1: kind of way, and if you can't, you're gonna have

548
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: to live your life like that. But you try to

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00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 1: say to your career and and lose your life. I've

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00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: seen a lot of nigga logic in this. How y'all

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00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: feel about DJ Academic's name being brought up in the trial. Now,

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00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. The idea of my name is

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00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 1: in a nigga trial that loss and got itself twenty

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Speaker 1: years and they said I was tempering and I didn't

555
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: come right back. I'm still doing it. I'm still these

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00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: niggas as different kind of men. Brother, when they dealt

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00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: with Kelsey and she flipped, I said to myself, but

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Speaker 1: as much creatures as we put on eyewitness testimony and

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Speaker 1: when you really do the research on it, this is

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Speaker 1: one of the most unreliable things in the world. As

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Speaker 1: you see, I think it was day three or four,

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Speaker 1: Tory Lanes left the trial and he was smiling because

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Speaker 1: at this time Kelsey, which was the star witness from

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Speaker 1: the prosecution side for Meg in the state to say

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Speaker 1: that Tory Lane has done this. She even had an

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Speaker 1: eighty minute recording in which she's already confessed that he's

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Speaker 1: shot in certain things. But so she was a very

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Speaker 1: instrumental part of the case and the prosecution. She gets

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Speaker 1: up there and flips, and you see Tory Lanes and

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Speaker 1: his team have a good day. But when she flips

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Speaker 1: one thing about us, we don't know how to just

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Speaker 1: turn one flip. See, it's the nigga that came up

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Speaker 1: with trying to hit two three of them. Motherfucker. For

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Speaker 1: it wasn't no wife person respectfully they come up with

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Speaker 1: white people was okay with were doing one flip. It

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00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: was a nigger to say, I get so high, I

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Speaker 1: might can do two of them. So we ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: What I think Kells had done was she done too

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Speaker 1: much and she pulled it on, and she pulled it

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Speaker 1: on and she pulled it on, and what happened was

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Speaker 1: it started to turn, and you gave them an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to send you home and bring you back the next day.

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Speaker 1: When they sent you home, they worked all night on

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Speaker 1: how do we switch this because she's now flipped on us.

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Speaker 1: So what they did was they bring her, they bring

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Speaker 1: her back in and she's intimidated. She's doing this for Tory,

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00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: and she said something that basically canceled out her whole thing.

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Speaker 1: If you asked me when they asked to did Tory

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00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 1: Lanes pay for your lawyer? And she said, I don't remember.

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00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: That was a mistake. In my opinion, if you're gonna ride,

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00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: if you're riding, then you do that that's a mistake

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00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: because what they gonna say it is, oh, he might

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Speaker 1: have paid for So that's why she doesn't switch the story.

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Speaker 1: As she continued to go against what she originally said,

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00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: the prosecution found himself in the hole. Now to relays in,

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00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: the defense found themselves applaudingness and pulling it on, saying that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they're not credible. So they went home that night, they

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Speaker 1: came back in and said, well, since they're saying we're

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Speaker 1: not credible Jannah, we can't let them do that and

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Speaker 1: say we're not credible. Can we play this eighty minute

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Speaker 1: video of our interview with Kelsey so the jury knows

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Speaker 1: that we're just not making this stuff up. And now

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Speaker 1: this is a real argument because here it is, y'all.

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00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: Don't pulled up a witness that's now saying all these

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00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 1: crazy things, so this may blow your whole case. And

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Speaker 1: the judge granted that. When they granted that, that was

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00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: very important because they played the whole interview of hers

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Speaker 1: saying that he shot me, he was upset, She got

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00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: the fighting with him and all of that. She went

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00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: through a whole story that the jury got to hear.

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Speaker 1: And I think at that moment you now had to

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Speaker 1: change their man that Tory didn't shoot me. We do

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Speaker 1: have an interesting update. The jury has asked to see

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Speaker 1: the full transcript of the Sean Kelly testimony. Now, as

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Speaker 1: I recall the testimony, Sean Kelly, when the defense asked him,

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Speaker 1: testified that there was a fight between the two women.

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Speaker 1: The larger man came to break up that fight. He

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Speaker 1: violently broke it up because it was an aggressive fight.

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Speaker 1: And then at one point one of the girls goes

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Speaker 1: back towards the car. And then he also said he

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Speaker 1: saw a flash what he confirmed later as gunshots, but

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Speaker 1: what appeared to be a flash near that girl. He

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Speaker 1: saw the woman appearing to shoot downwards. Again, Kelly never

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Speaker 1: used the word shoot. It was so confusing. He's like,

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Speaker 1: I never saw a gun. I can't say shoot. But

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Speaker 1: then sometimes he and then he'd be like, oh, now

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Speaker 1: I did see it. I don't know. It's very confusing,

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Speaker 1: But this is how much the defense attorney established, I

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Speaker 1: you know that. And then the woman shooting down towards

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Speaker 1: an into the car. He thought he saw fireworks into

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Speaker 1: the car, whatever that means. And then he says the

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Speaker 1: sea and then so that was kind of it. That's

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Speaker 1: all them. That's all the defense attorney asked. Then the

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Speaker 1: prosecutor came up. Prosecutor goes up and he's like, yo,

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Speaker 1: you saw the little man shooting, right, And then there

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Speaker 1: was like a series of questions and we get to

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Speaker 1: some point he's like, yeah, I saw the little man

638
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: shooting too, and he was shouting. Prosecutors like, yo, he

639
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: was making violent tirades right. He's like, yes, he was

640
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: violently shouting. And then the prosecutor's like, visit where his

641
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: arms outstretched, and Kelly's like, yeah, he was like this okay.

642
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 1: The defense attorney comes back on. He's like, wait, you

643
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: never told the investigator this, what is this? And then

644
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: and then you tell me, I mean, you have the

645
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: initial sequence where the defense attorney seems to establish that

646
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: they're shooting towards the ground into the car. The prosecutor

647
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: even on closing acknowledge that Yo. I know he said that,

648
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: but there was no shots fired in the car, so

649
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: that's impossible. But maybe he didn't see exactly where it went.

650
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 1: Maybe the shot went somewhere else. You tell me who

651
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: is to blame if that's the testimony. Tori's doing this,

652
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 1: the girl shot down into the car. But that's impossible.

653
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,400
Speaker 1: Who would you blame? To be sure, the jury is

654
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: not being asked to assign blame. The jury is being asked,

655
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 1: has the prosecution proved in their case beyond a reasonable doubt?

656
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 1: And to be absolutely sure if it was you in

657
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: that defendant's chair or one of your loved ones, you

658
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: would want to make sure that the court of public

659
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: opinion does not decide that this is not an opportunity

660
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: to assign blame for a victim. This is opportunity to

661
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: decide whether the prosecution has met its burden of proof

662
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: to put a man behind bars. We do have an

663
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: all right, so that that was interested because the testimony

664
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: from dude with him again, you gotta get up dead

665
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,439
Speaker 1: this point. You gotta gal piss saying you swung a gun,

666
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: You had a gun and you was angry, and this

667
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,479
Speaker 1: alady did when you involved in a criminal case. There's

668
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: neville one part of it that's gonna look like the

669
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: whole story. What they're doing, especially in the trial setting,

670
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 1: is they're painting the picture. So if I can just

671
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: connect you with having the gun and then prove that

672
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: the gun was fired. Yeah, no, we ain't talking about him.

673
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 1: Yet we're just saying that at some point you had

674
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: a gun and at some point a gun was fired.

675
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: We'll get you to it in a minute, but let's

676
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 1: just identify all these things that you can't get out

677
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: of and then work our way to that. And if

678
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: you don't understand those techniques when you're being asked certain

679
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: questions and things. It's interested to see people react to him,

680
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: But I think he should have testified that the dude

681
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: came out and said all of that on top of

682
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,959
Speaker 1: Kelsey saying what she said and leaving that window open

683
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: of saying that, yo, you might have paid for her lawyer,

684
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: and she's being erratic up here, like everything she said,

685
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: I didn't say that. I was lying. I don't remember,

686
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: Like it's wild up there. But you got Meg up there,

687
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: Stern and what she's saying, dude shot me. You had

688
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,320
Speaker 1: to get up there. And so people are trying to

689
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: say that what they think happened is that maybe the

690
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: girls shot Meg and all this is alleged, because again

691
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 1: this is me just trying to show y'all how the

692
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: Internet interacted with this thing and affected it. So they're

693
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: trying to say, they're trying to say maybe the girl

694
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: got upset because of the interaction between Hunt Tory Lanes,

695
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 1: and maybe maybe they got into an altercation where the

696
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: gun was drawn. What you're hearing is the bodyguard getting

697
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: out to come and YO, break that fight up between

698
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: those two girls and one of them have a gun.

699
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 1: And what they do they saying up there about the

700
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: girls shooting into the car, is the girl starting to

701
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: shoot the gun. What they're trying to say is Tory

702
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: got involved, man handled a couple of them, shot the

703
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: bullets out the gun to make sure there wasn't no

704
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: bullets in the gun. This is what another narrative is

705
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: online And again Loon doesn't co sign no narratives. I'm

706
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: only to what information to have a podcast, and we're

707
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: trying to digest what the fuck was all this did?

708
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: Just happened. So we got two questions. Is that snitching?

709
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: If that's the case, Ken Tory Lanes as a rapper,

710
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: go up there and say, man, she was shooting, I

711
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: took the gun and emptied the clip. That's number one.

712
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: Set that to the side. Number two by him not

713
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 1: testifying what I believe happening is instead of them seeing

714
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: him there as someone what happened. I know, a verdict

715
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 1: is in and he's been convicted of shooting megana Styllion.

716
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: That's not alleged anymore. He's been convicted of that. I

717
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: don't know the truth for that night, but let's deal

718
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: with this. Instead of them seeing him in the light

719
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: of being someone that stopped two girls from fighting and

720
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 1: maybe took the gun shot it to make sure that

721
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: nobody gets hurt, they saw him as the person that

722
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: had the gun, which it was his people gun that

723
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: was fire that ended up with megana Styllion being shot.

724
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: Now here's the twist. All that other bulls she'd done

725
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: played into this, and this when I was aware that,

726
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: like yo, maybe he didn't come from where we come from.

727
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,439
Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna be completely honest with y'all, and again

728
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: I want to send my respect to me because again

729
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,959
Speaker 1: I have mothers there. This is why I didn't even

730
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: report on this. My voice is so big I will

731
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: receive a call from my mother and people like that,

732
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: like yo, even if I believe she lied, I just

733
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: think my people would have called me like why are

734
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: you bashing that girl? Or why are you And I

735
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: know that some people say stand up for the truth,

736
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 1: but it ain't worth falled. Let that shit ain't my shit,

737
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: so it never was worth fall left for me. I

738
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: stayed out of it. Let's rewind a little bit after

739
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: this happened. You see people go live. I'm gonna street nigga.

740
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with y'all. And I don't say

741
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: this to hurt nobody feelings. But let's say me and

742
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: somebody get into something like that. What happened with Meg

743
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: and Tory and she run to the internet saying what

744
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: she said. First thing I'm gonna say is I'm gonna

745
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 1: call my Lord. The first thing I'm gonna say is

746
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: please file for a speeded trial, and I'm gonna deactivate everything.

747
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,959
Speaker 1: No music, no nucy. I know I'm going into life,

748
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: save the mold. And I know what she thinking. But

749
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: but the dumb niggas who was addicted to the Internet,

750
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: they chased the correction on the internet. So what you

751
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: dealt with was her coming out and saying, yo, he

752
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 1: shot me. I was turned around, but he shot me

753
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: and I saw him. And then what you saw him

754
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: do was come right out and help her with changing

755
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 1: her defense again. I witness testimony even things that happen

756
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: to you, your recollection can be off. I give her that,

757
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you, if I was told Relanes in

758
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: that moment, I hope she made it to the stand

759
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: with that, with the back turn and know who shot

760
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: her or fee would have got I don't understand what that.

761
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: But because the internet was involved, here he come, how

762
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: you know who shot you? And you're back with her

763
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: he rapping about it. And then what that does is

764
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: I got two years before try now I say, damn

765
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: that do kind of make it? That might will confuse

766
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 1: some people. I said that wrong. You're right. I don't

767
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: need to say it like that. Now I saw him

768
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: shoot me. This is what you got two years later,

769
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: you understand the same person. But what I want you

770
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: to understand is all these little popping out on stage,

771
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: you're making people pull out their resources. You're making people

772
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: pull out there, in my opinion, like you pulled the

773
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: win dog thirty when they shot black men up. Now,

774
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: this ain't a black man thing. It's a system thing. Right,

775
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you involved in something that I don't

776
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: far too well. It ain't time fall led playing. I'll

777
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 1: let kind of talking about it on the records and

778
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, tweeting this and tweeting that about a case

779
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: with a woman being shot. I always said, boy, they

780
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,919
Speaker 1: playing a tag teaming with academics. I said, boy, they're

781
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: playing a dangerous game. Boy, twenty seven years on the line,

782
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: you've been tagged up with academics. These the men were

783
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: talking about he she is done saying her defense. You

784
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 1: didn't come out and told her how to correct it

785
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: and deeed Poby Street. Guys, I can't wait the boys.

786
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: All she ever said on record was that we ain't

787
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: doing no more talking now me. I'm telling my lawyer

788
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: as I'm in there, hey, listen bringing that up. That's

789
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: about all, y'all. God, I never said nothing about it ever,

790
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: never once said nothing about it. The y'all got that now,

791
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: and this is what else we gonna do. But I'm

792
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,440
Speaker 1: just talking about court games and and how all this

793
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 1: takes place, right, So what what I'm what I'm putting you,

794
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,880
Speaker 1: I'm putting you down. I also would have asked my

795
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: lawyer to ask them, Yanna, is it correct that we

796
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: have the gunshots on camera? At least audio we can

797
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: hear the shots go off, Yes, we can. Is there

798
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: a reason why we don't hear Dace bitch dance on

799
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: the audio. I just didn't understand why I never heard

800
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: that ass we have audio or the gunshots? Why we don't? Right?

801
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 1: And so now I want to try to take that

802
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: two things and the credibility of the witness, and I

803
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: want to try, but there was too much in and

804
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: that bull or shit. When they first come in discovery,

805
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: they bringing up a blog nigga who you can confuse

806
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: with this criminal ship just by saying I'm gonna risk

807
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: you if you don't tell me such as said he

808
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: said to break if you say, if you hang this

809
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: phone up, you're going to jail, and he don't got

810
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: time to take the lawyer or something he might tell it.

811
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 1: The first mistake was he should have took that. Yeah,

812
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a hundred percent honest. It's no way

813
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: me being in that situation facing twenty seven with me

814
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: they yell and suspended was a win for me. Now,

815
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: what I know at that point is the money that

816
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 1: I probably would have lost or whatever was gonna happen

817
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: under these next couple of years, I would have said,

818
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: Number one, I need the best deportation lawyers in the world.

819
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: That's number one and then number two. I'm going on

820
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: my campaign. I still didn't do it. I didn't do that.

821
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: I just had to take this because of the situation,

822
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: and all street niggas know sometime come to a situation

823
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: like damn a year suspended facing twenty sem I got

824
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: to go with that. I'm talking about. They got a

825
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,799
Speaker 1: superstar lady working for jay Z Rock Nation that they

826
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: say it's involved in this. They got her coming up here,

827
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: Finn say I shot her. I got her home girl coming.

828
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of testimony she gonna give. You,

829
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: understand me. I got an eyewitness guy coming. They say

830
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: I got gs shit on me while didn't. Man, Hell no,

831
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm nah. I'm got to take it. Your suspended and

832
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to just say you've done it. I

833
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 1: know you've done it. Man, Look, we got to have

834
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: conversations about that. You know what I'm saying. I took this.

835
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 1: This was in my best interest. But he took that

836
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: nigga energy. He took that, not even nigga energy. He

837
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: took that jail house. He took that not at even

838
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: jail house they were told to go. He took that

839
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: inexperience who would tell shit to the head man. If

840
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: they come at you, low man, they don't got none.

841
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,840
Speaker 1: Now their folk came at you, would have your suspended,

842
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 1: but they don't got none. Turn it up on them, folk, boy,

843
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 1: go to trial, boy, do your shit. I'm telling y'all

844
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 1: probably would have copped out with that. You know what

845
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm talking about. With this situation, I would

846
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: have grabbed the tests a win. That's a win for

847
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: you home, and he could have fought debortation. It's no way.

848
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 1: You're telling me that there's no way, Like maybe they

849
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: fire your band or something or something like it, but

850
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: like you could have been out. Man. I just think

851
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: it was a bad decision to me, in my opinion,

852
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: the FD was convicted his father. Sound like TD Jake's

853
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: out there with the preacher. Let's take a list. I

854
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: want to know exactly how I'm feeling. Sure I just

855
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: stood here in this Los Angeles County and witness the

856
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: worstless charge of justice that this wall has ever seen.

857
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: If you want to know how I field, I'll tell

858
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: you exactly how I field. I got some names that

859
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: I want to call Alice, Spiral, des Ray Press, and

860
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: the whole wicked system of rock Nation, including you jay Z. Yes, yeah,

861
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: you who say your rooms from the gunner, But you

862
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: have trained and charged the soul of young men and

863
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: you're still doing it. The only independent witness in this

864
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: court room is a man whose name is Sean Kelly.

865
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: He came to court and our journeys. He would not

866
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: even shake their hand. After he went upstairs with tifty

867
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: Talk and Alex Boch and get the second gamey thirt

868
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: he madn't make it with all the wines. And then

869
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: the man came back. He sat in the hallway while

870
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 1: he sat with Jody Little, the prosecutors investigator, who after

871
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: so dumb, an intelligent woman who did not want to listen.

872
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: I see so much evidence buried in this, and I

873
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: know exactly what the public out here was saying. Don't talk.

874
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: You will say. I say this because of the father. See,

875
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: I am a father of thousands around the world. I

876
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: am a father of my kids, but a spiritual father

877
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: to many. And I don't make stupid allegations because I

878
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: got nothing better to do. You all have been bothering

879
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: and trading the souls of young black and brown men, yea,

880
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: in this country. And I called on all the umbrellas.

881
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm calling on everybody in this country to begin to

882
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: rise up. It's because you're solving the story over. It's

883
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 1: not over. God does not lose, no, and even though

884
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: we have come to this juncture, trust me, you will

885
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: see it that our God does not fail if he

886
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: know that this is wickedness. This Districk attorney, Miss Cathy Talks,

887
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 1: is the same one that witness or news that five

888
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: Sharis deputies in La County beat up a Spanish man

889
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: with the lasting Carello until the guy was beaten to it.

890
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: I passed out. ABC News interviewed that man after I

891
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: witness news and he said it, I thought I would

892
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 1: never be here to see my child born, and I

893
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: would never been able to be alone to see my

894
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: other child riser. But I'm telling you this court system

895
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: is not for justice. It's about winds and losses, and

896
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: they do dirty to do whatever they can. Jay Ze,

897
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: let me speak to you. He has kids very looking

898
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 1: because my son refused to sign a relation deal with you. Yes,

899
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 1: and Deserate Perez, you wicked, which you snitch? Yes, you

900
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: turn on your coast conspirators, all the whole muff here.

901
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: One of you that was doubling jugs in this country

902
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: and you ruled on them before. So the fact to

903
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: give you a deal. Now all of you trust me.

904
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: I have been to sessors, para warriors around the wall,

905
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: and they will not stop until you are cut off. No,

906
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: we don't shoot you with guns, but we know exactly

907
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:04,719
Speaker 1: how to bring you down in the spirit's so like

908
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: open open up up, lay still right, boy, that's extremely

909
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: at what I'm saying. Like for even for med I

910
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: give her, I give her love and and you know,

911
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: warm embrace. But even for Tori going to do twenty

912
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: seven years when you were out for the year, I

913
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: even can feel that, like don't nobody want their sun

914
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,919
Speaker 1: and be gone twenty some year? Know what I'm saying,

915
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: don't know, don't nobody want to be behind bars? So

916
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: I give him warm embrace as well. I think that

917
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: night was a very messy night. You know. I think

918
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,200
Speaker 1: some mistakes were made from a social media standpoint, it

919
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: were weigh too much evidence and shit based on what

920
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 1: was said. He and now if you chop out let off,

921
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: what do they got. They got a gunshot of dude

922
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 1: saying it and don't like you feel me? And so

923
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: I need people to understand. Now, sometimes it feel good

924
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: that I got my side out, but it's like no family.

925
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: Now here's what things get tricky. And let me try

926
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: to lay some framework down. As meg and Tory were

927
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 1: at trial, what you saw were a list of blog

928
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: sites podcasts covered this story in a way where they

929
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: highlighted a lot of the things that they thought would

930
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: lend credence to Megna Stallion being a liar about Tory Delane,

931
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: about Tory Lane shooting her. This was a very interesting

932
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:55,839
Speaker 1: approach to me because I didn't understand what they got

933
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: from this. You know, again, in the media game, I

934
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: come in, I have a big platform, so I gotta say, hey,

935
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: what are they doing? What is this? Why all these

936
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: men speaking and calling her a liar? Even if they

937
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: feel that way, are they mothers not calling them? Or

938
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,240
Speaker 1: do they mother must not like Meg or something. Because

939
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: even if we believe that my mom or somebody, my aunties,

940
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: my old lady or whoever I'm dealing with, just call

941
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,959
Speaker 1: me and we'll talk about that man, she might be lying.

942
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 1: But to come out on your platform with that, I

943
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: never got it special. I'm information guy. I saw Tisha

944
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: k just take a four million dollar ahead, all right,

945
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,479
Speaker 1: it's gonna get it. It's gonna get ugly. Now, every

946
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: single one of those guys were wrong. Even shout out

947
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: to my guy more More was in the courtroom saying

948
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 1: that there's no way this makes sense, and they came out.

949
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: Every single person said yes to guilty. So something was

950
00:55:56,320 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: off there. I don't know. I can't say it's biasedness,

951
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:03,879
Speaker 1: but something happened there. Now you had people like ACT

952
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: was streaming nine to ten hours scream and scream and

953
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: screaming about it. So after the guilty verdict, this is

954
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: where she starts the process in holding people accountable. And

955
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: I think she's coming for people like academics. Joe Button.

956
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: Joe went ahead and put this sorry out, but Joe

957
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 1: had ACT while AK was in the middle of doing

958
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: all of that, said, a lot of these dudes just

959
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,240
Speaker 1: trying to feel slots. Then they'd talk about damn the ennything.

960
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 1: They're just trying to feel these little slots up. They

961
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: ain't having nothing to really talk about. So they're gonna

962
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: take this right here and go all the way down

963
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 1: through there with their personal opinion of it. I want

964
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: to take a look because I want y'all to see

965
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,319
Speaker 1: academics know that he's about to be sued. Let's take

966
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: a look through when the verdict comes in. I want

967
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: y'all to know and see how confident he was. And

968
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: then he was like, oh shit, they might got me.

969
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: Now they got a verdict, a guilty verdict, and it's

970
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,400
Speaker 1: probably a lot of clips and shit they probably reading

971
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 1: the star screen recording them and shit that what shit

972
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: he was saying. But let's take a look. We have

973
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: the pole. Let me make sure this is right. We

974
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: had twenty thousand people just vote now on our YouTube.

975
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: Do you believe the verdict for Tory would be guilty

976
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: or not guilty? I can show y'all on the screen.

977
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: Let me show y'all right now, because I don't think

978
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: I'm byasing the shit out YouTube center. Which means it's

979
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,120
Speaker 1: clear that somebody took something on the bag. The particular gun.

980
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: The particular gun looks mostly like this. You know, obviously

981
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: this is negro and just like fucking just random fan

982
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: like you know, um commentary, They're like, well, that don't

983
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: look like a gun that a man would be carrying.

984
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna be honest, there's no gun. That means, um,

985
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 1: there's no there's no look for a gun that would

986
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: mean a man would carry it or hold it, you

987
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Who cares? Right, But this was

988
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: the particular gun being used. Okay, it was this small

989
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm a thirty one year old male. If

990
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: it would fit very small in the palm of my hand, right, Again,

991
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: doesn't matter that much. Tories like five zero right, So

992
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: who knows, not saying it's his gun, not saying it's not.

993
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: The prosecutor has used that fact and use a lot

994
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: of other facts to say, well, you know what, the

995
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: gun didn't belong to the bodyguard, The gun didn't belong

996
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 1: to anybody else but one of the ladies who had

997
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: it in a bag. And they are trying to use

998
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 1: the circumstantial evidence to say that gun was probably in

999
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: there before and at the time of the shooting. When

1000
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: police pulled over the car, the bag that was packed

1001
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 1: in the trunk was then moved to the almost like

1002
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: the center, which means it's clear that somebody took something

1003
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: on the bag. The defense want to say it's one

1004
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: of the girls guns, and one of the girls took

1005
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: the gun and tried to shoot Meg. Again, it didn't

1006
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: go two months into it. Unfortunately, the two bodyguards did

1007
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 1: not testify at this trial. The two bodyguards did not

1008
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: testify this trial. Why is it important Meg's bodyguard who

1009
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: wasn't there? She claims that when Tory went back two

1010
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 1: days afterwards to pick up his stuff, because remember he

1011
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 1: went to jail, everybody went to the hospital or was

1012
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 1: being questioned, so some of his stuff went to wherever

1013
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: she was going. When he went to go pick up

1014
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,360
Speaker 1: his stuff, apparently he confronted her bodyguard, and her bodyguard

1015
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: claims that Tory told her, hey, I'm sorry for shooting Meg. However,

1016
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,720
Speaker 1: her bodyguard was absent the entire trial. Keep in mind

1017
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: the star witness, you know what Meg dinner thing. There's

1018
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 1: no candasparits Meg Meg dinner thing. But the second star

1019
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: witness was going to be Kelsey. The prosecutor had their script.

1020
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: They were ready for Kelsey to say, yeah, I've seen

1021
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,439
Speaker 1: Tory shoot Meg. Kelsey said, I ain't never see Tory

1022
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: with a gun. A jury has convicted Tory Lanes of

1023
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,600
Speaker 1: all three charges for the twenty twenty shooting off Make

1024
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: the Stallion a crazy and downright scary scene in the

1025
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: courtroom as his father and stepmother screamed about wicked injustice.

1026
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: Tory Lane's father stood up and guessed again. For those

1027
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: of you listen, I just want y'all to see, this

1028
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: is a guy that's been streaming about this and he's

1029
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,880
Speaker 1: been wrong the entire time. He's over two. He was

1030
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: wrong about Cam and he's wrong about this. I want

1031
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: you to understand that this one may come back to

1032
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: buy him, and I think he sees that potention unexpected

1033
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: for me. I will tell you though, you know, at

1034
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: the beginning of this trial, at the beginning of when

1035
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: this all started, I've always just said we should wait

1036
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: until a verdict was actually presented. And just like I

1037
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: told y'all, obviously I don't know the outcome. I didn't

1038
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: know the outcome, whether it was him being an innocent

1039
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: of him being him being found guilty. Of course, he's

1040
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: going to probably appeal. This is an outcome that we

1041
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: all have to accept. This is an outcome we all

1042
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: got to accept. I'm gonna be honest with you. Listen,

1043
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: those jewelers who are in court, granted, we have gotten

1044
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: a lot of the information supposing that I was presenting court,

1045
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: but for whatever reason, they have all concluded that he

1046
01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 1: is guilty. Now with all these media guys involved in it.

1047
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: The first thing you made me say is y'all gonna

1048
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,080
Speaker 1: make somebody cheat if I had the ability to cheat,

1049
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: if I had the ability to make sure we won,

1050
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: Because boy, look at it out there. They already slamming us.

1051
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: What we're gonna do with are not guilty verdict? What

1052
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna really power along? They calling me a flat

1053
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: out lie before it even a verdict come out, and

1054
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: they're going by what they think, and it's I guess cool.

1055
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: But when you have a platform, you have a responsibility.

1056
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: A lot of people ignore the responsibility. I also want

1057
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,960
Speaker 1: to make a very stupid observation. I want to let

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01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:10,760
Speaker 1: you guys know something that when you cover this the

1059
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: way that you guys were doing it, that's not content.

1060
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people are, like I

1061
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: would see people on stream and they would just pull

1062
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,040
Speaker 1: other people up to talk all day or just play

1063
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: other people's stuff in the background all day, and it's like,

1064
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: that's not creating content. I hope people are clear that

1065
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: that is not creating content, and they're trying to blur

1066
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: the lines. Like bro talking about a case where two

1067
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: black people are involved, where we can't win and streaming

1068
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: about that nine hours and saying whether or not you

1069
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: believe a girl is a liar, the dude is a liar.

1070
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: That is not content. Brother, you stream nine hours about

1071
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 1: touring me and when we have no win in that fight. Now,

1072
01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: one of you up north nigga streamed about Cassanova. I

1073
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:03,040
Speaker 1: didn't see them niggas talk about y Seal and young

1074
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: Thug and trying to his court cases or giving that

1075
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: that real deep dive. They spend nine hours on this ship,

1076
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,520
Speaker 1: hold long segments on podcasts about it. They only talked

1077
01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 1: about the y Seal thing about Gunna park Yo. I

1078
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,960
Speaker 1: think gonna snitch that he ain't like that that ut.

1079
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: But they ain't talking how to help. Ain't nobody to say, yo,

1080
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: thug cases like this, Maybe they can do this, But

1081
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: I tell you what, y'all stay out of thug them case.

1082
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 1: I think that's the right thing to do because we

1083
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:37,439
Speaker 1: saw with all little force, y'all head, y'all went behind

1084
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: Tory with everything y'all head, and he got convicted on

1085
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: all three counts by all twelve people. And then you

1086
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 1: would hear some of these dudes said, well, it's not

1087
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 1: really me you know, I ran a pole and the

1088
01:03:50,600 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 1: pole said this. I want people to understand what I

1089
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:56,160
Speaker 1: viewer internet pole to be, especially about a topic within

1090
01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 1: which I've implanted my stands to my audience. I expect

1091
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: my pole to reflect what they think I think, right,

1092
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: Because if I've been having a message on this channel

1093
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: of he's innocent, I would imagine that the people that

1094
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 1: staying here to watch believes that he's innocent. You see

1095
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It ain't gonna be no whole bunch

1096
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 1: of people there that believe the other side. So when

1097
01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 1: you do these poles, these are not real poles, bro.

1098
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: But again, these are weird behaviors from grown me. And

1099
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 1: that's in position of power with media, and I get

1100
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: confused because there's an agenda that we should be sticking by.

1101
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:45,880
Speaker 1: You got Melly in jail saying that he being treated unfair.

1102
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 1: They ain't talking about death for nine hours casting Nova

1103
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: in jail. They ain't talking about death for nine hours.

1104
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: You got thug down in their fighting anybody taking please?

1105
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: They ain't talking about death for nine hours, and if

1106
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,160
Speaker 1: they is, they're making fun of it. They ain't getting

1107
01:05:01,160 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: no information or talking about the case. And oh is

1108
01:05:04,160 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: this writing, high case law work and this they ain't

1109
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 1: doing none of that. They just round Hill bullis shit

1110
01:05:09,680 --> 01:05:14,520
Speaker 1: and now they feel to be sued. I one percent

1111
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: believe Meg's coming with her Lloyd's to sue. Some of

1112
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: these guys watch what I team. And so that's just

1113
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: my that's just my opinion on the Tory Lanes, Megan,

1114
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,880
Speaker 1: the Stallion thing and how blows were involved. Man, Like

1115
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: I again enclosed, I just don't think that it needed

1116
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:35,919
Speaker 1: that much outside influence. You know what I'm saying. When

1117
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: when you catch a case, you need to be limited

1118
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: or whatever else that they able to get that helps

1119
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: the case. And so the constant talking to constant dropping

1120
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: the music, academic streaming, and I heard this and he

1121
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: got documents out the court and dad his name come up.

1122
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: Now the man got twenty years. Man, I feeling, did

1123
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: the dude man be like, damn, I'm gonna tag myself

1124
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: fucking this ship with the nigga that this man got

1125
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: twenty years? Did I play into that? Because now they

1126
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: get the painted like he picking on her. You understand,

1127
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: they get the painted like me and in the industry

1128
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:17,800
Speaker 1: are picking on her led by academics. Man, that's weird.

1129
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 1: Let's move on. So Joe Budden went up to earn

1130
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 1: your Leisure and had a great conversation. Shout out to

1131
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: my brother's earlier leisure. This conversation kind of was around podcasting,

1132
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,680
Speaker 1: how much he was offered things like that, And for me,

1133
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: I grabbed something from all of these conversations. When the

1134
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: people who are actually moving in the game speak, I

1135
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: just think it's important to make sure we're paying attention.

1136
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 1: It's only a few of us that it can even

1137
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 1: articulate direction. You know, some of us just had position.

1138
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: You know, you get talent confused with titles. A lot

1139
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: of people have titles, but they don't have of talent.

1140
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: But they are where they are and so you have

1141
01:07:04,120 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 1: to respect it. But let's take a listen to it again.

1142
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: A great interview, a lot of information. Shout out to

1143
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 1: a shout and Troy Joe they did they think, let's

1144
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: listen to this part right here. Can do like any

1145
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,479
Speaker 1: kind of ad they wanted, anything they wanted any time,

1146
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: just plug it in. Hey y'all, do what y'all do,

1147
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: and then you just give it us no and come

1148
01:07:26,680 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: off of YouTube. Give us all the videos they wanted.

1149
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: They wanted the videos, give us all audios, all the

1150
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 1: build because that's what they did. And don't show up

1151
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: nowhere else. They just asked for a lot. Don't show

1152
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: up anywhere else. Shows are ship. We gonna figure out

1153
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: how to run next. They had, They had a universe

1154
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:49,080
Speaker 1: that they're building and in that and you can see

1155
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 1: them building it. They're doing it publicly. Hey we spotify

1156
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 1: bys this advertising company spotify by. They buying the companies

1157
01:07:56,680 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: to come so they could build their ship. No, you

1158
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 1: can't misuse my ship that way. You're talking about ads.

1159
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,440
Speaker 1: But it's really y'all, y'all to add it was a lot.

1160
01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: It was a lot wrong. It's to start it own

1161
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 1: network without the next course of events. Yes, yes, but

1162
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 1: I want to say that plan was underway before the

1163
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:19,599
Speaker 1: Spotify was could put right because I had a vision

1164
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: for what I thought would come and the network would

1165
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 1: play a huge part. Honestly, I was banking on Apple subscriptions.

1166
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,200
Speaker 1: That was really my plan. I didn't want to go nowhere.

1167
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: I saw our metrics and I was going to bet

1168
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: on what our numbers would do if we had it

1169
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: all if Apple subscriptions, I was like, when people pay,

1170
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 1: But that hasn't really worked out right, No, yeah, that didn't.

1171
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,360
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anybody talking about Apple subscriptions, which took

1172
01:08:54,560 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 1: the plan off the table and took our plata back

1173
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: to talking. All right, So for those of you that

1174
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: listening and you're not looking at the video, I just

1175
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 1: want to be clear what he's speaking about. For those

1176
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: of you who are a podcast listener for real and

1177
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: you kind of tap in with all of us. Um,

1178
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, back when Joe Buttons Spotify thing was happening,

1179
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: he started to do some public negotiation because he kind

1180
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 1: of felt like listening that they don't seem like they're

1181
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,800
Speaker 1: coming down the turnpike with a deal, and so he

1182
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 1: did what he calls a countdown on his exit and

1183
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,920
Speaker 1: turned down twenty or thirty million dollars whatever it was.

1184
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: That deal would have been over by now, and it

1185
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,879
Speaker 1: was a licensing deal. He's letting you inside the playbook. Basically,

1186
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:46,920
Speaker 1: he said, like height, when the Spotify thing was starting

1187
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: to be like not gonna happen, I started to look

1188
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: at how we're gonna make our income. And I looked

1189
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:55,960
Speaker 1: over at Apple and they had a subscription thing going on,

1190
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,880
Speaker 1: and I have an audience, So now if I can

1191
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,920
Speaker 1: just tap in the charging the audience. Certain percentage of

1192
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: them will pay. I just got to figure out how

1193
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: to do it where it's seamless, where it's not that

1194
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 1: big of a transition involved type of thing. And he

1195
01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: was thinking about Apple subscriptions that didn't work, sending back

1196
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: to the drawing board. I'm not sure how much collaboration

1197
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,599
Speaker 1: he was doing with Rory and Mall or how much

1198
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 1: was necessary, but it just seems like he was at

1199
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:25,680
Speaker 1: the head of it. I don't know who the rest

1200
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: of his handlers are, who helps him, but it seemed

1201
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 1: like that he wasn't consulting anyone. He just was going

1202
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,759
Speaker 1: with his feelings and maybe in the final hour just false.

1203
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:41,880
Speaker 1: These are these are huge conversations that you're having with people.

1204
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 1: So I mean, you can't take any of this stuff

1205
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 1: for granted, right, Like these people that we're talking to,

1206
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,960
Speaker 1: who who were doing business with y'all? Like these are ships,

1207
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 1: THESEUS Titanic ships running around and we're just happy to

1208
01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: be in the seat. Wait for what for the nonsense? Oh?

1209
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: I said every single time, I don't be joking. I

1210
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: have to see it's inevitable. It's not a jinx, it's

1211
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: inevitable on that path. So I can't wait to see

1212
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:21,479
Speaker 1: how the financial people deal with that when it comes.

1213
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 1: However it manifests, because by the time it reappears, it'll

1214
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 1: be more insidious than if you last saw it. So basically,

1215
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: Joe was saying that no matter what, that it's gonna happen.

1216
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: I have to disagree with that. I think Joe Buden

1217
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: is just scarred. He's been through all of that ship

1218
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:41,560
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh my god. You know. But what

1219
01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: I think is happening is Joe Budden is projecting right now.

1220
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:48,880
Speaker 1: It is a high percentage of it happening. I will

1221
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: say that, But inevitable, I think it's the wrong word

1222
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: to use in that instance, because it does not have

1223
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: to happen. We even see drink Champs. They've been rolling

1224
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,679
Speaker 1: for a while. We see Elliott Wilson and b DoD

1225
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: been rolling for a while, And I'm sure that there's

1226
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: been some obstacles, right and hold on to something for

1227
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 1: ten years or more, seven eight years, having long these

1228
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:15,679
Speaker 1: guys have been gone. But I do believe that there's space,

1229
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 1: there's room for us to acknowledge that this is not inevitable. Right,

1230
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,719
Speaker 1: I always go back to the situation with Joe Rogan.

1231
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: Of course, this whole industry is a case studied for

1232
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:31,320
Speaker 1: me because I'm so important to the infrastructure. And so

1233
01:12:31,479 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: as I watch Rogan just winning got million dollar bag

1234
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 1: for his podcast for about three years and so, and

1235
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: that's you know, all inclusive. So that's counting some benchmarks

1236
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 1: and some things that I'm sure he's gonna hit because

1237
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: the work ethic is there, the audience is then once

1238
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: he gets like that and you're still having fun. See, man,

1239
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,599
Speaker 1: I just hit two topics. I gotta tackle number one.

1240
01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: There's a thing that you got to search for to

1241
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: hit that success that you started out looking for and

1242
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: still be having fun once you obtain it. Because once

1243
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,639
Speaker 1: the fund goes away, it kills the creativity. I don't

1244
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,800
Speaker 1: give a fuck how good you started. I don't give

1245
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: funk who taught you. Once the fund goes away, it

1246
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,400
Speaker 1: kills the creativity. But back to the story, I always

1247
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 1: look at Joe Rogan and how he's been able to

1248
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 1: cash in on his podcast and if you know anything

1249
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 1: about how it started, because inception is important for me

1250
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: because I'm a founder. I'm not a buyer, I'm a builder.

1251
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 1: There's a difference between the CEO and the founder. So

1252
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 1: I'm a founder. I watched Rogan. I sit damn. He

1253
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:43,800
Speaker 1: started off with this dude named Brian red Band. Joe

1254
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 1: Rogan knew nothing about podcast and Brian red Band knew everything.

1255
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,719
Speaker 1: And so Brian Redband literally rolled with him for five

1256
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 1: or six years, built the podcast infrastructure, built the audience.

1257
01:13:56,200 --> 01:14:00,760
Speaker 1: With him was owned camera telling, as well as the

1258
01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: person that handled all the bells and whistles behind the scenes,

1259
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,839
Speaker 1: making sure the audio was right. Oh that video cameras

1260
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: up too far went down. It's fuzzy, this, that, and

1261
01:14:10,160 --> 01:14:14,080
Speaker 1: the third right. So he was instrumental, of course, not

1262
01:14:14,200 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 1: as instrumental as Joe Rogan. But I want us to

1263
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: take a look at that because it's a coustionary tale

1264
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: that on the other side of the street here is

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01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:29,360
Speaker 1: the biggest podcast in the world, starts with a guy

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01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: who they're friends. Those guys are still friends to this day.

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01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: Joe Rogan has went off and made hundreds of millions

1268
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:39,719
Speaker 1: of dollars off of this product. This dude has just gone.

1269
01:14:40,439 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: He doesn't do any shade throwing. There's no Hayden. He's

1270
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,439
Speaker 1: now been replaced by a dude named Jamie shout out,

1271
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: Jamie Vernon, it's my guy, you know. But Jamie is younger,

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01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it wasn't just because he was younger.

1273
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: While he was replaced, I figured that maybe Brian just

1274
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:03,800
Speaker 1: wanted to chill out at the wrong time. And um,

1275
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 1: but still in our culture, we would have took that

1276
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,400
Speaker 1: and say, you know what, I helped you build that,

1277
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: you dirty motherfucker. That we would have been going through

1278
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 1: all of that. And Rogan sists and enjoys four or

1279
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: five conversations a week with this guy that now he's

1280
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: been with for the last five or six years. Dude

1281
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,120
Speaker 1: probably been with him longer than Bran was with him.

1282
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,240
Speaker 1: But Brian really helped him start. For Joe Button to

1283
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: say it's inevitable for those two guys or for those

1284
01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: guys to break up, Um, I think that's the wrong word.

1285
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,479
Speaker 1: If you watch my podcast where Earn Your Leaves, I

1286
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 1: just spoke with them about like there's a lot of

1287
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:42,599
Speaker 1: problems in podcasting, right, Do you have any brother beefs

1288
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 1: and things like that. I asked that question because it

1289
01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 1: is a high percentage chance that it happens. I just

1290
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 1: think the tongue is powerful and when we use words

1291
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 1: like inevitable when we are planning for disaster. I think

1292
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 1: we put ourselves in a very conventional situation. I look

1293
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 1: at our situation kind of like as an independent label,

1294
01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,400
Speaker 1: where the people on a network produce their own content,

1295
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,400
Speaker 1: they produce their own social media clips. We give them

1296
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: a voice, we give them a platform, we promote it.

1297
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: But and they get a lot of the lion share

1298
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 1: of revenue that comes in as a result of that.

1299
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 1: It's like catch records. But I could see it being

1300
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:24,600
Speaker 1: extremely difficult if somebody's expecting you to produce content for

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01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: them and you to do social media clips for them.

1302
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 1: Was that part of a problem or No, I don't

1303
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,439
Speaker 1: want to say that. What I will say is this right,

1304
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 1: If I'm the label and you're the artist, and you

1305
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: feel that you went and made ten amazing songs, at

1306
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: some point, if you don't hear those songs or you

1307
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: don't see the songs happening in the way it's supposed

1308
01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:50,479
Speaker 1: to happen for you, you come into the label. You're

1309
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 1: come into the label to say, Hey, the fuck is

1310
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 1: going on. I don't have enough spends, my video ain't

1311
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: playing my mixed show, and on the show, my public.

1312
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: I don't have nothing lined up in the label. Was

1313
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: looking at you, like the fuck are you even talking about?

1314
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,519
Speaker 1: Like did you did you do what you had to do? Like,

1315
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,360
Speaker 1: I know you made some shit, but did you do

1316
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:13,640
Speaker 1: everything you had to do? Let's spend some time on that,

1317
01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:17,479
Speaker 1: because I think that's a very healthy conversation to be

1318
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: had about this. This is the approach of a lot

1319
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: of the industry, right, what they what they want to

1320
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:28,880
Speaker 1: do is participate on the ad side. I think that's

1321
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: a very legitimate question. If I've signed and brought my

1322
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,839
Speaker 1: talents over to your network, all right, I'm doing content.

1323
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 1: What are we doing in as far as marketing? Like

1324
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,440
Speaker 1: where are we placing it? Send me over some analytics

1325
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 1: to see if we're doing any email blasts? How many

1326
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: opens do we get? What's the conversion click through rate? Like,

1327
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,800
Speaker 1: what's happening? What's happening? Right? I didn't come sign to

1328
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 1: somebody just to keep recording content and one day we

1329
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:57,479
Speaker 1: just hope it catch fire. What are the plans on

1330
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: What are the plans on the other side? I believe

1331
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 1: these are legitimate questions, Right, what's happened is these people

1332
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 1: who are at the top of podcasting are treating podcasters

1333
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:12,600
Speaker 1: that they sign like they treat their business. So what

1334
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: you're dealing with is you will see a podcast have

1335
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: a large audience and just sit there and just keep

1336
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:22,000
Speaker 1: doing content, and he's making money off of that. But

1337
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 1: the people that he's signing doesn't may not have that,

1338
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: may not have that amount of viewership that they have.

1339
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 1: So what they're looking to do is build on that

1340
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: audience and try to expand and scale the company. None

1341
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:39,240
Speaker 1: of these people have any solution or any direction or

1342
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: planning in place in regards to scaling a podcast, Like

1343
01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: it's literally nonexistent in the industry. When you come in,

1344
01:18:48,200 --> 01:18:52,759
Speaker 1: everybody's just talking about ads, ads, ads, ads, y'all fighting

1345
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 1: the old game. Ads are important, that's a staple in podcasting.

1346
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 1: But we head it somewhere with this. This whole ship

1347
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,960
Speaker 1: should be interactive by this point. Like, I'm I'm totally disappointed,

1348
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: but I believe that's a legitimate question. Bro. It's like, yo,

1349
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:12,400
Speaker 1: I come here, I'm saying to myself, I just signed

1350
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,560
Speaker 1: over to you. I've already got blood, sweating tears in

1351
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,519
Speaker 1: this big podcast thing I've been doing, right, I can

1352
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 1: really kept it running like like it was running but

1353
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 1: I've decided to partner up with you. We've partnered up.

1354
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,679
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be this big behemoth in the market,

1355
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 1: and my numbers ain't changed none. There's no plan in

1356
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 1: place to streamline any audience streamlining in the ads. Cash Chef,

1357
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,080
Speaker 1: y'all got a smaller budget. Maybe y'all can't get on here,

1358
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: but what about here? And I know he said a

1359
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,839
Speaker 1: lot of people are being paid. Maybe that's the creatively support.

1360
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 1: So maybe he's saying, Yo, I'm paying y'all. Y'all could

1361
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: have took that money and done something that's alleged, because

1362
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that to be the case. But I

1363
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: do think that there's room for those kind of conversations like, Yo,

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01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: what what y'all doing? See they ask? And then we

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01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 1: all what shows? You got me plugged? Youn on? I

1366
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: need to be touching the people, right, so you should

1367
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,639
Speaker 1: have me on six and seven shows? What's the list

1368
01:20:07,680 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: of ten people that you got? Like I should be

1369
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: turning down names, like you should be reaching out to

1370
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 1: me saying, yo, we got these ten people. I should

1371
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: be like, hey, I'll do such and such and such

1372
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 1: and such. You know what I'm saying. It needs to be.

1373
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: It needs to be some teamwork to make the dream

1374
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: work becomes that. It becomes that. So even now like

1375
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 1: you had shows, is the what's what's the vision now

1376
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: for it? Is it to find more voices, more creatives

1377
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 1: to create the plan. Like you said, you're gonna be

1378
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,400
Speaker 1: running it differently. Now, what what's gonna change now? No? No,

1379
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 1: why would we be all Friday? Yo? You know what

1380
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 1: people would give to wake up, go down the street,

1381
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 1: sit on account and talk to their friends. All right,

1382
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 1: let's talk about what he just said just for a

1383
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 1: brief second, because this to me hits home, right, It's

1384
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 1: very important. He said his whole life is this, and

1385
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 1: I one million percent understand what he means. Like this

1386
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:16,639
Speaker 1: business for me has turned into a seven figure business,

1387
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: you know, a million dollar business, right, and so everything

1388
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,720
Speaker 1: I do has something to do with this. And if

1389
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: that wasn't the case, then that will mean I would

1390
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: be negligent with my blessing. And sometimes in a weird way,

1391
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: it feels like people want you to be negligent with

1392
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:41,040
Speaker 1: your blessings, right, they wish you'd spend a little more

1393
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: time doing some of these other things that ain't been

1394
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: sent by God. Now, We're not gonna do everything right.

1395
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: When I say sent by God, I mean the helping

1396
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 1: and harbor, you understand. I mean something to get you

1397
01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: out of a situation that you really didn't have much

1398
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: to do with You was just right place, right time.

1399
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: God saw favor, And so I see God's showing favor.

1400
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: And so all I'm doing is this and it's people

1401
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: who really don't understand that. And for Joe, right, he's

1402
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,640
Speaker 1: made millions of dollars off this, so it's easier for

1403
01:22:19,720 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 1: the people around him to accept the fact that everything

1404
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: is podcast My lifestyle didn't come from podcasting. Actually, podcasting

1405
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 1: took from my lifestyle. I'm the nigga that takes woman

1406
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,679
Speaker 1: on dates every week. I'm the nigga that cooking ship

1407
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,400
Speaker 1: with my old lady and paint pictures with my girl.

1408
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 1: You understand, I'm one of them niggas. This done. This

1409
01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: doesn't rob me of everything outside of the goal in

1410
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: the business. And I gotta be comfortable with that because

1411
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 1: I understand that the blessing that I was given man

1412
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 1: ain't nobody got this ship, you understand. So what I'm

1413
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 1: saying is I can't I can't ignore what God is

1414
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: doing and what the universe is allowing me to be

1415
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:13,880
Speaker 1: a part of. I gotta double down, triple down. I'm

1416
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: a gambling nigga. I know not with my hand hot

1417
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:19,960
Speaker 1: and some niggas what I used to do to him

1418
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 1: on them dice. I know with my hand hot, I

1419
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 1: know exactly what I'm doing. I do have to give

1420
01:23:27,800 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: Joe some credit because they do record a lot, like

1421
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,880
Speaker 1: they record a lot over the years, I've seen him

1422
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: change his style to very mellow because of so much recording.

1423
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes you still get those moments, But for me, this

1424
01:23:43,640 --> 01:23:47,840
Speaker 1: is helping y'all understand technique and style. Joe Button also

1425
01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: says something here that run true to me, and I

1426
01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: want to spend some time on it because it's very important.

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01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:56,320
Speaker 1: What he said was in all board meetings. Everyone he

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01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 1: spoke to in Spotify all roles led to them not

1429
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,280
Speaker 1: being a wold to let him go just sheerly because

1430
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 1: of the market sharing, the value that he had amongst podcasters.

1431
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,360
Speaker 1: And I ain't gonna lie to you, as I saw

1432
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: Joe navigate his way through that all see, you gotta

1433
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: start paying attention to what people doing, because on one

1434
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 1: end Joe would say that, Yo, everybody, I talked to

1435
01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: and Spotify said there's no way they're letting you go.

1436
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,080
Speaker 1: And then the only other end he would say that, Yo,

1437
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: we sent Spotify something for some watches and never got him.

1438
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: So what are we paying attention to? Because I'm paying

1439
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 1: attention to what you're doing. What you're saying is cool

1440
01:24:41,560 --> 01:24:45,600
Speaker 1: and it hit, but what you're doing hit different. I

1441
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: think Joe kind of wore that in a weird way

1442
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: where it was like, all right, they're not gonna let

1443
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,240
Speaker 1: us go. We probably got him where we want them,

1444
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 1: and the countdown was kind of like a black mail,

1445
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 1: you know, the countdown thing he always talked about. I

1446
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 1: think it was kind of like trying to tell him

1447
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:04,599
Speaker 1: like y'all serious, like y'all gonna let us walk out

1448
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:07,840
Speaker 1: after all your people told me it's no way. Man,

1449
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 1: I'm telling you they're bluffing Like me, you gotta ask yourself.

1450
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,519
Speaker 1: I'm on this side of podcast, and I get eleven

1451
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:15,920
Speaker 1: thousand dollars an ad I keep him Joe and other

1452
01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: people say fifteen hundred. I don't know why they're doing that,

1453
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: but I get eleven thousand dollars for one ad, right,

1454
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 1: So and that's me on this side. So if I

1455
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: figured that out on this side and y'all on that

1456
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 1: side talking fifteen hundred twenty five hundred, we probably should

1457
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 1: switch places. Set that to the side. You cannot wear

1458
01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:37,919
Speaker 1: your position in any industry. You cannot wear your position.

1459
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 1: You cannot say that I'm number one and that's what

1460
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 1: makes me better than everyone. I always tell people it

1461
01:25:43,840 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: ain't about when I talk to these niggas, because when

1462
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:49,759
Speaker 1: I talk to them, it's gonna be a different conversation. Again.

1463
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm hanging my head on the product, right, not the position.

1464
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: What will happen is you'll set yourself up in a

1465
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: trick bag, especially if you hang your head on this

1466
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:05,479
Speaker 1: number one shit, because just like Joe Budden, you hang

1467
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: your head on number one, I'm number one, I'm number one,

1468
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 1: and what will happen is that will change and now

1469
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,120
Speaker 1: all of your cashe is in being number one. So

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01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:18,639
Speaker 1: you killed your own brand by saying that YO, number

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01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: one is what makes it better than everyone else. This

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01:26:21,200 --> 01:26:23,600
Speaker 1: is kind of what happened to fifty cent when he

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01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:25,800
Speaker 1: was taught. You know, I sold so much man mouth

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01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 1: selling not only and that worked for a minute. It

1475
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:31,120
Speaker 1: stumped a lot of niggas out he stumped a lot

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01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: of brands out with that. You niggas ain't moving no

1477
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:41,439
Speaker 1: unit shit. But now when you're slowdown, nobody has to

1478
01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: do the work on you because you've created the market

1479
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,320
Speaker 1: that kills the product when it gets to that level.

1480
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: Because as a podcast or somebody like Joe that was

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01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,600
Speaker 1: number one, that ship can change just because of a

1482
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: market shift. It could literally have nothing to do with

1483
01:26:55,960 --> 01:27:01,320
Speaker 1: your content getting worse. Your co host didn't move, you

1484
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:04,960
Speaker 1: sit got better, everything even got better. But the market

1485
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: just shifted. Yo, we like this over here now and

1486
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 1: it just shifted just a little bit. And then you're

1487
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,280
Speaker 1: not number one. You number three, number three with six

1488
01:27:14,439 --> 01:27:17,880
Speaker 1: million downloads a day, and that still don't hit the

1489
01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: same because you created this environment. What number one was

1490
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 1: the only thing that was a win. And I tell

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01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 1: the young niggas, doing what you love is a win.

1492
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 1: Making money by doing what you love is a win.

1493
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: You understand what I'm saying. It's a lot of people

1494
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: that's going to get on folk lifts and shit that

1495
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:39,479
Speaker 1: they can't stand because what will happen is if you

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01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 1: don't figure out how to do what you love for

1497
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: some money, you'll end up doing shit for some money

1498
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,920
Speaker 1: that you don't love, you see what I'm saying, And

1499
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: then that can turn itself into being a lifestyle or

1500
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 1: a life that's kind of miserable because you really hate

1501
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,719
Speaker 1: going into that job, but that's what feeds your family.

1502
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 1: Now they work you so much and so long that

1503
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,560
Speaker 1: you don't have time to even find another job. I

1504
01:28:04,680 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 1: know people that's being treated bad in jobs that they

1505
01:28:07,479 --> 01:28:11,000
Speaker 1: work in, but the job won't allow any time off

1506
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,880
Speaker 1: and the wage is so minimal that missing two days

1507
01:28:16,040 --> 01:28:19,400
Speaker 1: is the difference between eating steak next Sunday and eating

1508
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: bologna soundwich next Sunday. You see what I'm saying, So

1509
01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 1: every single day is accounted for. People want to know.

1510
01:28:27,360 --> 01:28:28,720
Speaker 1: This is what they want to know, and a lot

1511
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,840
Speaker 1: of people have not figured out how to make money

1512
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: from podcasting. Most people, most people have not figured that out.

1513
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 1: What do we say about talking about why is that good? Oh? Please?

1514
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,519
Speaker 1: Why the good? Why is it not? Because it's an

1515
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: industry where people are getting involved there while you know,

1516
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:48,439
Speaker 1: you just said, Dame that showed you the blueprint of

1517
01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 1: how they he showed it. You just said that he

1518
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 1: showed it exactly and if you missed that, then you

1519
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:57,720
Speaker 1: missed it. So so, so what I'm saying. What I'm

1520
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: saying is this, I have allways felt like that. You know,

1521
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 1: my job in the game is to have a real conversation,

1522
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: Like I'm about to be down there with pier Romeo, right,

1523
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,400
Speaker 1: so we're gonna have a real conversation. Same here with Joe.

1524
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 1: Did Joe just get lucky? He? Do he know what

1525
01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: he's doing? I mean, I know visually he knows how

1526
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:23,320
Speaker 1: to make it look how it needs to look to

1527
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: be considered a top night show. Right. We can say

1528
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 1: that clip wise, you know, with the all the assets

1529
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: and things, they look amazing, But does Joe really know

1530
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:41,679
Speaker 1: what he's doing with the business? And there's no shame

1531
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:44,160
Speaker 1: in this. And this is why we can't get help

1532
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:47,320
Speaker 1: on this side, because nobody over here wants to look

1533
01:29:47,439 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 1: like they don't know. I'm the only nigga saying I

1534
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. I don't know what's going on.

1535
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: I know it's some money here they're getting it, how

1536
01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:00,960
Speaker 1: do we get it? But over here, anybody more the

1537
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,599
Speaker 1: lion share. So they want to come to the table

1538
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 1: saying well I make forty million a month, and then

1539
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: you say, well I make forty two million, then something

1540
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: can come out to cut Well, really, I'm doing sixty

1541
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 1: four million a month with on two channels, and you'd

1542
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 1: be like, how we gonna what we're doing? What we're

1543
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 1: doing over here with everybody just fudging numbers and lying

1544
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:27,000
Speaker 1: about shit, and ain't nobody gonna keep a gangst and say,

1545
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 1: look the going number for this. I hooked up with

1546
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 1: this ad company. They're willing to pay sixty five hundred, right,

1547
01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:37,760
Speaker 1: no matter how big the show is. Now, what we

1548
01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 1: need to do is counter that add some more value,

1549
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 1: Like we need to figure out how to structure these

1550
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 1: things and where the money is. Joe was able to

1551
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:48,320
Speaker 1: go on Patron. That was a move that me and

1552
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: Mall talked a long time about on the show that's

1553
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:54,680
Speaker 1: going about to come out. But I identify why he

1554
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,120
Speaker 1: makes money. If it wasn't for that, he'll be much

1555
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:59,639
Speaker 1: more eager to try to figure a way out because

1556
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:03,600
Speaker 1: he'll be just like these other podcasters. Right, he was

1557
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,080
Speaker 1: looking to do something with his audience. But boy, he

1558
01:31:06,240 --> 01:31:09,320
Speaker 1: did it at an opportune time. He used to be

1559
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 1: like a hip hop sat test that you take before

1560
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 1: you can get a record deal, yo, because that's what happened.

1561
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,120
Speaker 1: All of these all of these fucking insects came in

1562
01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:21,479
Speaker 1: here right, said yes to everything, said yes to everything.

1563
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: They said yes to everything that was put in front

1564
01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 1: of their face. Yeah, shorts, you nigga sold y'all ask

1565
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: for chocolate chip cookies. That's what y'all did. Yes. So

1566
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 1: then the companies put their pants on, and they put

1567
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:36,400
Speaker 1: they had their teflon vests on. And now it's a

1568
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,000
Speaker 1: cap on it. Yeah, because and now because it's a

1569
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: cap on it. Rashad got to sit here and say,

1570
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 1: how's everybody making money? No, everybody ain't. Only the niggas

1571
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 1: that figured out and had some balls and moved with

1572
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 1: a certain machiefs more figured that out. So if you

1573
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: niggas that thought him out, Oh no, would you rather

1574
01:31:57,320 --> 01:32:00,479
Speaker 1: go on a date with jay Z five or less? Five?

1575
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:05,240
Speaker 1: That's a loss less? That's crazy. That's when you say profitable,

1576
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 1: what do you mean they could they make money off

1577
01:32:07,800 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: what kind of money? Like a dollar? A million dollars,

1578
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:15,160
Speaker 1: that's that's a relative millions. Let's say yea, let's put

1579
01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: a million as a threshold. When you say in the space,

1580
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:22,599
Speaker 1: I'm excluding the television shows that have made themselves podcasts. Yeah,

1581
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:26,280
Speaker 1: in the news shows that have made themselves the true

1582
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 1: tradition shows. It's note a lite no. Wow, I don't

1583
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: know if I'd say five, but I don't know that

1584
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 1: I can get to there. Well, this is why, and

1585
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: this is why, like I have no problem sharing the blueprint.

1586
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: It's like, here, lay it out for you because the

1587
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 1: odds are already stacked against you anyway. Right. This is

1588
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 1: why it is hella important for me to pay attention

1589
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 1: because I see these dudes are six hundred episodes in

1590
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: and things like that, right, so they have um more

1591
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 1: information will kind of work with just in regards to

1592
01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:02,719
Speaker 1: a landscape type conversation. Now, me on the other side,

1593
01:33:03,640 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: there's no other show that came in with their first

1594
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:12,280
Speaker 1: five episodes being like Little Baby Rich, Homie Kwan, Earn

1595
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 1: Your Leisure Adam twenty two, Doctor Mark Johns. That's the

1596
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: first five episodes of my show without any company involved.

1597
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:27,720
Speaker 1: I need people to really understand what that means, right,

1598
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: because in this market there's a lot going on. I

1599
01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,600
Speaker 1: used to say, you'll always take the meeting, youngster, you

1600
01:33:35,720 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 1: never know what making come out of that. Twenty twenty three,

1601
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:42,879
Speaker 1: I'm gonna really start to tell you, like, have somebody

1602
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 1: that to take the meeting on your behalf. They kind

1603
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 1: of know about what you're interested in. They know whether

1604
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 1: or not to even run it across your desk because

1605
01:33:51,880 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry there's a lot of meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting, meeting.

1606
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,000
Speaker 1: They let's meet, they less meet, they less meet, they

1607
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,639
Speaker 1: less meet. Like, nah, let's do some business. Let's get

1608
01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 1: it done, like because me meeting is taken away from

1609
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 1: all this other business I'm running. So like all the

1610
01:34:07,960 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 1: meetings is cool, Like, you know, we can go have

1611
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,840
Speaker 1: lunch or something if you just want to talk. But

1612
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,960
Speaker 1: far as business hours, don't pulling me off running the

1613
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 1: multimillion dollar business to have a meeting about some shit

1614
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: that ain't got nothing to do with no money. And

1615
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:27,080
Speaker 1: then me, I'm a problem solve a kind of guy.

1616
01:34:27,160 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 1: So I'll getting these meetings and just go to talking.

1617
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 1: Of course, I got enough game not to say things

1618
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 1: that I shouldn't say in regards to giving you a

1619
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:38,760
Speaker 1: peek until my real planning and strategy. But sometimes I

1620
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:42,680
Speaker 1: work out kinks that they don't even see, just in

1621
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:44,720
Speaker 1: real time, just on some you know what I mean.

1622
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 1: I gotta start to understand that that's too valuable for

1623
01:34:47,479 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 1: me to do, especially when I'm trying to figure this

1624
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:56,560
Speaker 1: other side out. Real niggas operate against our large I

1625
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 1: go by the name A big Loan respect. It ain't

1626
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 1: nobody gonna do nothing about the baby. You're safe and

1627
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 1: oh you're safe over here, the biggest in history, nigga.

1628
01:35:04,439 --> 01:35:08,680
Speaker 1: What up? I'm gonna head of this conversation. Then I'm

1629
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 1: gonna get out of here. Today, I've seen a list

1630
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: going around what they're doing, some kind of top ten

1631
01:35:14,479 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 1: podcasts of twenty twenty two, and I think Jim Jones

1632
01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 1: started to shout out, Jimmy Dip said, you know, legendary

1633
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:26,000
Speaker 1: status up north right, And so they put out a

1634
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 1: top ten list, and then a bunch of the podcast

1635
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: guys start putting the lists out. You know, my thing is,

1636
01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 1: you know, with these lists comparison to a fuck nigga's

1637
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:39,560
Speaker 1: disrespect for the me, that's how I already it's a

1638
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:43,920
Speaker 1: period behind it, so I'd be feeling real disrespected sometime

1639
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 1: when you know, they tend to talk about these guys

1640
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:52,599
Speaker 1: like they're doing things that Lord ain't done, when I'm

1641
01:35:52,640 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: single handedly the most powerful person in media but let's

1642
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,400
Speaker 1: just have some time to speak about it, because I

1643
01:35:59,439 --> 01:36:02,599
Speaker 1: do think it's it's important to study to behave your

1644
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:05,400
Speaker 1: human beings, especially people that are supposed to be ahead

1645
01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:08,639
Speaker 1: of you. Right. I'm not tripping off Jim Jones making

1646
01:36:08,680 --> 01:36:10,840
Speaker 1: the list. He's a fan of podcast. He got every

1647
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 1: right to make that list. But when it was when

1648
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,679
Speaker 1: these lists started to be made by so many different people,

1649
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 1: I started to really look at it and examine it.

1650
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 1: The first thing I said is, I bet not see

1651
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 1: my name on no industry nigga lists. Don't know industry

1652
01:36:25,320 --> 01:36:28,600
Speaker 1: niggas don't know where to do. Industry niggas got no

1653
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:35,280
Speaker 1: busy listening to me, if you'll lead your homeboy at

1654
01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:38,200
Speaker 1: the club if you want them kind of guys, it

1655
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:40,920
Speaker 1: doesn't got rich and won't even put your home his own.

1656
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:45,640
Speaker 1: You won't share the information with your real family. They

1657
01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,439
Speaker 1: don't got no being in listening to me. And a

1658
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 1: bunch of the industry is tied in with each other,

1659
01:36:51,040 --> 01:36:53,720
Speaker 1: right and shout out Wallow Man. Me and Willow the

1660
01:36:53,840 --> 01:36:55,880
Speaker 1: only people to be a full five in the morning

1661
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 1: chopping gangs. So shout out Willow, real one, and he

1662
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:01,439
Speaker 1: let me know, you don't even have to worry about

1663
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:04,800
Speaker 1: shit like that, right, And I say, Yo, you know

1664
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,799
Speaker 1: what I know, Bro, is just I see my fans

1665
01:37:07,880 --> 01:37:10,760
Speaker 1: out there and they disappoint it. See you gotta think, bro,

1666
01:37:11,439 --> 01:37:13,559
Speaker 1: the people that fuck with Loon, they fuck with them

1667
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,839
Speaker 1: on a totally different level than the rest of the podcasts, niggas.

1668
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: You gotta think. Even with me, I transcend podcast I

1669
01:37:21,320 --> 01:37:23,799
Speaker 1: think a lot of y'all don't really understand what's happening

1670
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 1: when you see a clip with me on TikTok that's

1671
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,840
Speaker 1: doing well, like a lot of the TikTok dudes, the

1672
01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:34,479
Speaker 1: motivational kind of guys. That's from a show. There's no

1673
01:37:34,640 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: big celebrity driving that. That's pure content, that's pure message, right.

1674
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:46,880
Speaker 1: And so for me, I understand that I'm transcending podcasts. Right.

1675
01:37:47,040 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 1: So in my podcast, you a lot of people get something.

1676
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: They laugh, that they learn now, they get some real

1677
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,320
Speaker 1: shit that, they get some motivation, that they get some

1678
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:59,559
Speaker 1: explanation there. Right, It's a lot happening. And I feel

1679
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:02,880
Speaker 1: this spect them when you compare me to people that

1680
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 1: sit with people and talk to them about their business,

1681
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:08,599
Speaker 1: which I do that too. This is what really makes

1682
01:38:08,600 --> 01:38:11,360
Speaker 1: it strange because I do both of these. You know

1683
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's Almo like Dion playing baseball and

1684
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:18,040
Speaker 1: basketball and y'all telling about something niggadid average ten in

1685
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,720
Speaker 1: this sport, and y'all telling me that it's slickor comparison,

1686
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:24,840
Speaker 1: right there, old Prime. I also want to be clear

1687
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 1: too that the list don't mean nothing. The list is

1688
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 1: made by people who are having trouble creating content. Man,

1689
01:38:31,000 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 1: if you look around, like one of the podcasts that

1690
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 1: I actually liked just made a move that made me say,

1691
01:38:36,720 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: oh my god, they just took themselves out the race.

1692
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:46,000
Speaker 1: They just took theirself I the race. Right. They're making

1693
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,600
Speaker 1: these moves because they're struggling to create the content. So

1694
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 1: they bring people in, do this, do that, playing other

1695
01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,920
Speaker 1: people videos and this and all these different things, and that,

1696
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,200
Speaker 1: to me, that's not content. That's reporting, and that's a

1697
01:38:58,280 --> 01:39:00,439
Speaker 1: different thing. And if you're gonna be a porter, you

1698
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:04,760
Speaker 1: have to have a certain responsibility to attest to that, right.

1699
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 1: You know. The third thing that came to my mind

1700
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 1: when I see these lists pop up and I say, damn,

1701
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 1: they got top ten podcast lists going around in a

1702
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:17,440
Speaker 1: weird way, it feels like when it comes from inside

1703
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 1: the coach. It feels like that there's other men is

1704
01:39:20,040 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 1: trying to connect themselves to men. You know what I'm saying,

1705
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:28,320
Speaker 1: kind of feel nasty a little bit. For me, I

1706
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:34,080
Speaker 1: say to myself, long, you're a bad motherfucker. See the

1707
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: bad motherfucker. Don't got to connect with nobody. You ain't

1708
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:40,120
Speaker 1: got to say I'm on this list with these guys,

1709
01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:43,080
Speaker 1: and that make me a bad motherfucker. Nigga know you

1710
01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 1: the truth, you're a bad motherfucker and you don't need

1711
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:49,040
Speaker 1: the validation. And it comes off. You can feel it.

1712
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 1: You can feel it. Oh, he's trying to he trying

1713
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:54,960
Speaker 1: to pull itself over with them, and it's just feel nasty,

1714
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. You know, I don't do

1715
01:39:57,640 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 1: too much connecting myself to people. I'm what people try

1716
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 1: to connect to. And not to say that disrespectfully, but

1717
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,560
Speaker 1: I'm so focused on my craft and my grind that

1718
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna see the progress and at some point people

1719
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,439
Speaker 1: is like, yo, nigga want to get in with that.

1720
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,200
Speaker 1: Let's get in with that. Let's try to make something

1721
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:17,760
Speaker 1: happen with that. Because one thing for show, I'm gonna

1722
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:21,000
Speaker 1: keep it pushing. And then you ask yourself. You say, long,

1723
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:24,680
Speaker 1: as good as I'm doing, I don't even have to

1724
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:28,320
Speaker 1: worry about no nigga lists. The kind of nigga listening

1725
01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 1: to me, they ain't even gonna make no lists. Oh,

1726
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 1: list making nigga probably ain't listening to this. You know

1727
01:40:36,240 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You gotta think the kind of niggas

1728
01:40:38,720 --> 01:40:41,200
Speaker 1: that make lists them ain't the kind of niggas. It's

1729
01:40:41,200 --> 01:40:45,360
Speaker 1: probably tapped in with me anyway. But I had to

1730
01:40:45,400 --> 01:40:47,720
Speaker 1: come out and say something because I had five six

1731
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 1: thousand people out there going to war for me, and

1732
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 1: people comments and I'm like, nah, I see y'all. I'm like,

1733
01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm with y'all. I see y'all. And so I had

1734
01:40:56,360 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: to respond from that that aspect. Now here's the interesting fact.

1735
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:02,760
Speaker 1: And I'm the right person to talk about this right

1736
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:05,439
Speaker 1: because sooner. Another thing I was thinking when I've seen it,

1737
01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,640
Speaker 1: because I studied the whole market, is don't number some

1738
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 1: black niggas do this this. Some look ghett old shit, this,

1739
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:16,280
Speaker 1: some look ghett old black shit. Take all our podcast

1740
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:19,920
Speaker 1: and put them together and see who the best. That's

1741
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 1: some ghett old shit. They don't do that over there

1742
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,400
Speaker 1: with roguing. Then they let the numbers in the chips

1743
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:27,479
Speaker 1: far away it may, but over here we always got

1744
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:29,920
Speaker 1: the one up each other. I'm the best of all us.

1745
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm number one of all us, right, and that's what

1746
01:41:32,720 --> 01:41:35,560
Speaker 1: behaving me competing with that stupid shit. But what I

1747
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:38,760
Speaker 1: know and always is clear own is I'm competing for

1748
01:41:38,840 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: the whole entire market. I'm not gonna get caught in

1749
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:45,320
Speaker 1: this ship that they're doing. But that show said, why

1750
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,800
Speaker 1: is it black people that do that? We always talk

1751
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:51,400
Speaker 1: about how the labels and all these publications. Now these

1752
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 1: niggas is starting in fighting because my fans took it personal,

1753
01:41:57,439 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 1: like my people was under the nigga's post taking ship personal,

1754
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 1: like y'all, how what y'all talking about. Dude just came

1755
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 1: out with his first five episodes on the whole different

1756
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: show was Baby Rich, Homie, Doctor Umar, like what we're doing.

1757
01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:13,160
Speaker 1: He just went and set with Adam and Smash Smash Dad.

1758
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,640
Speaker 1: He sat with Uma, Smash Dad, him and Baby did

1759
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:21,320
Speaker 1: at lett me what we're talking about? And then I

1760
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:23,599
Speaker 1: got a whole another show where I really get a game.

1761
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 1: And that's the show. What people is really This that

1762
01:42:26,600 --> 01:42:29,840
Speaker 1: people listening to right now is what people are really

1763
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 1: really fighting for like now, y'all don't yall can't be listening,

1764
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, And I don't know, man, Like I don't know.

1765
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:41,240
Speaker 1: It's always some niggas. Shit. It's always niggas going back

1766
01:42:41,280 --> 01:42:43,720
Speaker 1: and forth, you know what I'm saying up to in

1767
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:45,960
Speaker 1: hip hop? Like they got y'all nigga fighting over there.

1768
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: Y'all sound stupid to me. Now, I don't even like,

1769
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,120
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie, I k I kate and then

1770
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: I'd be thinking some of y'all swift and it's like, nah,

1771
01:42:55,439 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't think people really on the same level as

1772
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,719
Speaker 1: me to even do that. There's no one. You gotta

1773
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 1: respect noon for what he is. I did fit the

1774
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:07,120
Speaker 1: million on TikTok by myself. I ain't dealing with analytics

1775
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:12,599
Speaker 1: by association. Nah, I'm one of them niggas that went

1776
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 1: it done that. I'm a content man, I'm I'm a

1777
01:43:15,640 --> 01:43:19,280
Speaker 1: conversation start. I'm an information guy. A lot of these

1778
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: niggas is dealing with analytics by association and then trying

1779
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:25,560
Speaker 1: to use their association a battle with a nigga that

1780
01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:28,479
Speaker 1: the market is what the market is, So that's that's

1781
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 1: a move. It's like the jail in a boxing match, like,

1782
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:34,240
Speaker 1: you can't come out and say, man, well he's his

1783
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 1: arms are longer, so he keep hitting me with the jail.

1784
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 1: You can't do that. It's part of it. You better

1785
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 1: figure out a way. And so as I figured a

1786
01:43:41,320 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 1: way out, you know, I'm standing over here on the

1787
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:46,680
Speaker 1: other side, said they can't compete with this like this,

1788
01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,479
Speaker 1: shout out wallow and get like. I made a point.

1789
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,719
Speaker 1: I said, most people had a top ten podcast listen

1790
01:43:53,800 --> 01:43:56,559
Speaker 1: number one, I point out, don't number some black people

1791
01:43:56,600 --> 01:44:01,439
Speaker 1: do some stupid shit like that, that's number one, number two.

1792
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: Most of these lists didn't include the South. Not one

1793
01:44:06,520 --> 01:44:08,679
Speaker 1: podcast from the South. And they want me to believe

1794
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:12,320
Speaker 1: that's coincidence. I got too much game to think that's coincidence.

1795
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 1: This ain't by loon. I got too much game to

1796
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 1: think that the South ain't nowhere on there eighty five

1797
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 1: South killing like that, loon killing big facts, killing in

1798
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:25,599
Speaker 1: departments and more and more platforms just in the South

1799
01:44:25,720 --> 01:44:27,600
Speaker 1: killing it. But let's set that to the side and

1800
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:29,479
Speaker 1: just say, well, maybe they don't like it. What I

1801
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 1: found interesting is it's just a mirror comparison because had

1802
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 1: had I've been casting over they're sitting in prison right now,

1803
01:44:41,240 --> 01:44:43,280
Speaker 1: and they got a list going around saying, man, the

1804
01:44:43,400 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 1: most powerful media platforms in the podcasting space is from

1805
01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:52,719
Speaker 1: up north. And there ain't been one segment about my case.

1806
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:56,479
Speaker 1: There ain't been one drive just to send me letters

1807
01:44:56,640 --> 01:45:00,599
Speaker 1: or you know, surface locked up up there. The wopp

1808
01:45:00,720 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 1: is locked up up there, you know. And I had

1809
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:04,720
Speaker 1: to send a shout out to Wallow for me and

1810
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:10,040
Speaker 1: Wallow Talk, you know, Wallow Winterpooh Schie the thing. See,

1811
01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:12,920
Speaker 1: they showing you what podcasting is supposed to look like.

1812
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,000
Speaker 1: It ain't just supposed to be a coming here and

1813
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,439
Speaker 1: I just get this interview. If you're a big Homan,

1814
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:22,280
Speaker 1: it's like these are relationship builders, bro, And it's like

1815
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 1: I expect more from niggas. I would be highly disappointed

1816
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 1: had I've been casting over and I see a list

1817
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:33,320
Speaker 1: with ten podcad and now Nigga ain't head down tight dry,

1818
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 1: Ain't no lawyers been up at a rail road, Ain't

1819
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 1: nobody brought no attention tour And they comparing them to

1820
01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:43,040
Speaker 1: loan and loaners. Down here. I'm speaking with lawyers, I'm

1821
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 1: speaking with doctors and investigators and trying to figure out

1822
01:45:47,160 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: is this even legal. I'm speaking with court like. It's different, bro,

1823
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:54,680
Speaker 1: It's different. I also want to be clear to my

1824
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: fans that don't that that these lists me absolutely none.

1825
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 1: These dudes ain't make no money. You look me in

1826
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:09,520
Speaker 1: my eyes, boy, I make eleven thousand dollars an ad verifiable.

1827
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 1: These boys ain't making no money. And they got the

1828
01:46:14,320 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 1: list is going on and how much they love what

1829
01:46:17,160 --> 01:46:21,679
Speaker 1: we're doing? What what what what we're doing? You gotta

1830
01:46:21,720 --> 01:46:26,040
Speaker 1: pay me to make a list, especially black folks against

1831
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:28,600
Speaker 1: Now I make the white folks list. Ask me the

1832
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 1: top ten podcasts of the white folks. I got that

1833
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 1: all day. But I ain't create no in fighting when

1834
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,639
Speaker 1: there ain't no black podcasts in the top two Hunter

1835
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 1: and shout out the academics. You ain't make nobody lists.

1836
01:46:40,600 --> 01:46:44,280
Speaker 1: I keep telling y'all the game he give isn't it

1837
01:46:44,520 --> 01:46:50,680
Speaker 1: means absolutely nothing? That ain't loom Hayden. That me understanding

1838
01:46:50,720 --> 01:46:53,640
Speaker 1: the game, bro, I'm telling you what it is. They

1839
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:56,680
Speaker 1: had white boys making the list before academics as big

1840
01:46:56,720 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 1: as his platform mere because from a podcasting perspective, it

1841
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:06,600
Speaker 1: is zilch. That shit is nothing but anyway. And I

1842
01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 1: only say that because academics, took shots at people and

1843
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 1: done things that I just have little respect for. Right.

1844
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of time to spend on

1845
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:18,479
Speaker 1: him because it's an unfair fight, and it feels that way.

1846
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,640
Speaker 1: I know I got molding him, like I know he

1847
01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 1: can't fuck with me with this kind of shit. So

1848
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,800
Speaker 1: it's like I'd be feeling like I'm bullying them, and

1849
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to feel like that. But at the

1850
01:47:29,560 --> 01:47:35,439
Speaker 1: same time, I can't allow for certain things to happen, right,

1851
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 1: So I gotta start to say something for the people

1852
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 1: that ain't gonna say nothing, you know what I'm saying,

1853
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 1: and represent the other side of the game. But yeah,

1854
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to spend some time and tell

1855
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 1: my people, like, Yo, we don't never gotta make no

1856
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:51,479
Speaker 1: sucker a nigga. Listen now, that ain't what we're in

1857
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,280
Speaker 1: this to be making no lists. You know what I'm saying.

1858
01:47:54,800 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 1: All the real ones understand, you know what I'm saying.

1859
01:47:56,840 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 1: We ain't here to be making no lists. We know

1860
01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:00,960
Speaker 1: these niggas ain't really figuring and now they don't really

1861
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,719
Speaker 1: know nothing, you know what I'm saying. And I hate

1862
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 1: that for them that they got to hide behind these

1863
01:48:05,840 --> 01:48:08,920
Speaker 1: listen and these guests and things like that, like home, Man,

1864
01:48:08,920 --> 01:48:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep a gangster with you. I know you

1865
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:15,720
Speaker 1: nigga's just talking. I'm telling you what, loon, No loon

1866
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 1: know you nigga's just chirping. No, I mean nigga, No,

1867
01:48:19,439 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 1: you nigga just talking. Man. You know so I don't

1868
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 1: really fall victim none of this shit. I know niggas

1869
01:48:24,479 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 1: ain't gonna. I know y'all ain't had even no real

1870
01:48:27,120 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 1: hustle because y'all have had the opportunity to show me

1871
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 1: what you made up. Right, You've had the opportunity time

1872
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:35,960
Speaker 1: and time again to show me what you can do

1873
01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 1: with your audience. Right, A lot of y'all brands have

1874
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 1: took hits because you hadn't done anything. I know I

1875
01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:45,640
Speaker 1: scare you niggas because I'm talking loud from behind you.

1876
01:48:47,880 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 1: I know I scare you niggas because I talk loud

1877
01:48:50,200 --> 01:48:54,880
Speaker 1: from behind you and everything about it. Check out. It's like, damn, bro,

1878
01:48:56,200 --> 01:48:59,000
Speaker 1: this nigga's coming. You ought to see the look on

1879
01:48:59,120 --> 01:49:02,639
Speaker 1: these nigga fable when they be they. I'm telling my man, listen,

1880
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 1: this podcast space is weird, man. I want all the

1881
01:49:05,320 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: young creators just getting into to really understand how weird

1882
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:11,519
Speaker 1: this podcast space here. These people would call themselves friends.

1883
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 1: They will reference each other's show and not even name

1884
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 1: the show, Like, and I know you think we'll lo

1885
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:19,080
Speaker 1: that reline none. To y'all, that ain't nothing, and to me,

1886
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:22,400
Speaker 1: that ain't none. But it's intentional. And I always judge

1887
01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 1: things by the intent. Your intent is to not shed

1888
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:33,000
Speaker 1: light on even your friends show. You would hear some

1889
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:37,680
Speaker 1: of these guys in this podcast space take these unusual

1890
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:41,720
Speaker 1: stances in regards to what we should be doing with information.

1891
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 1: And people will sit there and applaud that. And I'm

1892
01:49:44,479 --> 01:49:47,599
Speaker 1: sitting back, like, these dudes gotta be broke. They can't

1893
01:49:47,640 --> 01:49:50,479
Speaker 1: have no money. They need some money. But y'all do

1894
01:49:50,640 --> 01:49:55,400
Speaker 1: me a favor, man, And you know, don't don't compare me.

1895
01:49:55,680 --> 01:49:58,040
Speaker 1: Don't don't compare me to these guys. We ain't none

1896
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:03,280
Speaker 1: to l let's speak about Romeo and master p and

1897
01:50:03,479 --> 01:50:07,679
Speaker 1: wrap snacks. Shout out to my partner, James, it's my guy,

1898
01:50:08,320 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: shout out peeing Romeo. Teachable moment. A lot of y'all

1899
01:50:11,960 --> 01:50:13,360
Speaker 1: know I'm from the South. I had a lot of

1900
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:15,880
Speaker 1: I got a lot of respectful p what he'd done,

1901
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:19,560
Speaker 1: you know, with music and the and the imprint that

1902
01:50:19,680 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 1: he left right. I think from a business perspective, he

1903
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 1: hit he hit it out the park. Now, over the

1904
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:29,120
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks, we saw him and Romeo get

1905
01:50:29,200 --> 01:50:34,120
Speaker 1: into a back and forth in regards to an image

1906
01:50:34,200 --> 01:50:40,920
Speaker 1: that Romeo says that he's publicly keeping up that privately

1907
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:45,240
Speaker 1: is not matching his true intentions. And so it was

1908
01:50:45,320 --> 01:50:49,160
Speaker 1: interesting to see Romeo came out and said he never

1909
01:50:49,280 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: touched any of his money from Wrap Snacks. We'll have

1910
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:58,160
Speaker 1: a conversation about that. Pete then came out and responded

1911
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:01,479
Speaker 1: to him with this video. Let's take a to there

1912
01:51:01,640 --> 01:51:04,679
Speaker 1: sad day because I got to get out of character

1913
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:08,040
Speaker 1: and put this owner in and there, which I don't

1914
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:10,280
Speaker 1: want to do. But I try to call my son,

1915
01:51:10,360 --> 01:51:12,800
Speaker 1: people say why are you calling? Did he don't call back?

1916
01:51:13,360 --> 01:51:18,320
Speaker 1: It's been months. So my question is to Romeo, like,

1917
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 1: if you've been in a business for as long as

1918
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:23,920
Speaker 1: you've been in and you're thirty something, you old man,

1919
01:51:24,720 --> 01:51:26,960
Speaker 1: And if you've been around me, watching me hustle and

1920
01:51:27,040 --> 01:51:29,760
Speaker 1: do my thing, why are you not where you want

1921
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:32,560
Speaker 1: to be at? Because that means you're not listening. That

1922
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:34,280
Speaker 1: means you want to do your own thing. You haven't

1923
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:36,720
Speaker 1: brought your own circle, your own circle of people. But

1924
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 1: you can't get mad at me because I really thought

1925
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:40,800
Speaker 1: this was about the only reason I entertain this on

1926
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:44,439
Speaker 1: social media. I thought that was about the DJ twitch

1927
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:47,920
Speaker 1: posts I put up, and I thought it was about

1928
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:51,280
Speaker 1: my daughter's death. I thought you was grieving. Mental illness

1929
01:51:52,000 --> 01:51:54,360
Speaker 1: is real. But I want to tell all the people

1930
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:57,160
Speaker 1: out there that just don't understand how bad my heart hurt.

1931
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:01,760
Speaker 1: Romeo lost a sister, but I lost the daughter, and

1932
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,040
Speaker 1: for any parent that's going through this, because I know

1933
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:07,439
Speaker 1: that it bring people closer together or tell them apart.

1934
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:10,599
Speaker 1: But I come from nothing, y'all, and I can go back.

1935
01:52:10,760 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 1: I'm cool with it. I won't be angry at God,

1936
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 1: I won't be upset. I won't go and get mad

1937
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 1: and be disrespectful to my parents and none of that stuff.

1938
01:52:17,600 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 1: I just said, Dad, thank you for putting me in

1939
01:52:19,160 --> 01:52:20,800
Speaker 1: this world now to get out and hustle and go

1940
01:52:20,920 --> 01:52:23,720
Speaker 1: do my thing. But that's the problem when you take

1941
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 1: kids and you you kind of like protect them from

1942
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:30,479
Speaker 1: the real struggle and the pain, and you don't allow

1943
01:52:30,600 --> 01:52:33,120
Speaker 1: them to deal with their own consequences, and then when

1944
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:36,360
Speaker 1: they grow older, Oh, you never gave me nothing at

1945
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:38,240
Speaker 1: thirty something, many people go go back and look, you've

1946
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:41,120
Speaker 1: been shining for a long time. Son. All you gotta

1947
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:42,560
Speaker 1: do is pick up the phone. They call me a

1948
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:44,680
Speaker 1: come to the house, and how I let me. The

1949
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 1: saddest thing about that, this is what the people want

1950
01:52:46,920 --> 01:52:49,880
Speaker 1: to see. They want to see destruction. So if you

1951
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:52,880
Speaker 1: destroy me, what are you gonna do for the rest

1952
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:54,640
Speaker 1: of the family. Or you gonna take care of You

1953
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:58,200
Speaker 1: told me on a post that you put up, Oh,

1954
01:52:58,280 --> 01:53:00,680
Speaker 1: you go take care of people in the community. Tell

1955
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do when you come from now,

1956
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:05,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna help people. I'm just not helping ungrateful people.

1957
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:07,760
Speaker 1: I'm not an atm mach. People can't just say they

1958
01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:09,880
Speaker 1: love me when I give them something. I'm tired of

1959
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,240
Speaker 1: than y'all, than any other parents. You could be richer, Paul,

1960
01:53:12,240 --> 01:53:14,679
Speaker 1: at a smaller level. You might give your kids to knowledge,

1961
01:53:14,680 --> 01:53:18,080
Speaker 1: But if that's all you've got, I've always fell off,

1962
01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:22,040
Speaker 1: got back up, hustle, did my there. I'm tired of

1963
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:24,840
Speaker 1: all these blogs, sites and all this stuff poking and

1964
01:53:24,960 --> 01:53:27,080
Speaker 1: having from y'all. Kay, But I'm about to go back

1965
01:53:27,120 --> 01:53:29,280
Speaker 1: to work and do what I gotta do. I love

1966
01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:31,679
Speaker 1: my family. My door is always open for my son

1967
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 1: to be honest because we shouldn't have to go through this.

1968
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:37,519
Speaker 1: And if I'm wrong, forgive me. I'm apologizing to you.

1969
01:53:37,720 --> 01:53:40,320
Speaker 1: If I'm wrong, I'm still a work in progress. I

1970
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:43,320
Speaker 1: come from nothing. Everybody go through trauma. I'm dealing with

1971
01:53:43,400 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 1: this right now. But I love going out into the

1972
01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 1: community and helping people. That's the way I heal allow

1973
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: me to here. I don't have to be sitting around

1974
01:53:50,160 --> 01:53:53,000
Speaker 1: moaning and crying and loan. I can't get my daughter back,

1975
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:55,280
Speaker 1: but I to get out there and keep a legacy going,

1976
01:53:55,400 --> 01:53:59,120
Speaker 1: keep a name going. So let's do this in love,

1977
01:53:59,200 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 1: and let's do this in peace, because this is what

1978
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:05,560
Speaker 1: the system want. Think about it. We're stronger together, but

1979
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:08,439
Speaker 1: you older than that. So you got to leave by

1980
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 1: jamper for the rest of the kids, and we gonna

1981
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:13,639
Speaker 1: get through this. I'm just telling y'all keep y'all prayers.

1982
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:16,640
Speaker 1: We need it. It A're gonna do what he gotta do.

1983
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna come on here no more.

1984
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 1: So bloggers and everything else, cool, whatever you want to

1985
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:24,720
Speaker 1: deal with, deal with Romeo or whatever y'all think he's

1986
01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:26,640
Speaker 1: saying it's true or whatever. That's cool too. I can

1987
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:28,519
Speaker 1: live with it. I'm at peace. And now I had

1988
01:54:28,560 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 1: to speak my piece. Man, that's deep. Um. I can

1989
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,760
Speaker 1: feel his pain right again. I do believe this is

1990
01:54:36,840 --> 01:54:42,520
Speaker 1: a teachable momentum. Business wise. I think PE has been

1991
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 1: effective in other areas, but there's been some opportunity as well.

1992
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:49,440
Speaker 1: But before we even deal with the business side, let's

1993
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 1: just deal with the fall, the son, the parent, the child,

1994
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 1: teach a student. As much respect we have for PE

1995
01:54:57,320 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 1: and me and Pe gonna have a conversation here next

1996
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:03,080
Speaker 1: week because so as much respect as we have, And

1997
01:55:03,160 --> 01:55:06,960
Speaker 1: I want to ask Romeo this, what did you learn

1998
01:55:07,040 --> 01:55:15,240
Speaker 1: from P? Because thirty five years being under this tutelage

1999
01:55:15,280 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: and getting nothing also speaks to the teacher. If he's

2000
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,840
Speaker 1: not listening, maybe I gotta redeliver the message because this

2001
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:26,120
Speaker 1: one he'll mind. This ain't like the ones in the

2002
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 1: ghet on something, get it something, don't. I got to

2003
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:30,680
Speaker 1: make sure this one he'll get it. This when he'll

2004
01:55:30,760 --> 01:55:33,760
Speaker 1: come from I got to make sure he get it right.

2005
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:36,280
Speaker 1: So I got to redo it. I gotta readjust it.

2006
01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:40,000
Speaker 1: I gotta reconfigure it. I gotta recalibrate it. I gotta

2007
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:42,800
Speaker 1: make sure he get it, because this one belonged to

2008
01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:45,720
Speaker 1: me as much as as much as I think I'm

2009
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:51,040
Speaker 1: a great teacher. At some point us as me and

2010
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:54,440
Speaker 1: we gotta ask our children. Are you getting what I'm

2011
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 1: telling you? Is this resonat am? I speaking over your head?

2012
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:05,240
Speaker 1: Because when it's time to take a picture, everybody seemed

2013
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 1: like Romeo being over there like this all the time

2014
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 1: in the pictures, but he ain't really knowing what's going on.

2015
01:56:12,720 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 1: I ain't really getting nothing getting on this relative though Romeo,

2016
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 1: because Romeo has been in a situation to grow up

2017
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:27,400
Speaker 1: like maybe what what maybe what five ten, fifteen other

2018
01:56:27,480 --> 01:56:34,840
Speaker 1: people ever in America. And I'm speaking from under a musician,

2019
01:56:35,160 --> 01:56:38,680
Speaker 1: right that whole thing, to get into the industry, Like

2020
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:43,200
Speaker 1: that's a very unique pathway in regards to life, and

2021
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:47,880
Speaker 1: he's been blessed. I try to tell people about coddling

2022
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 1: their children and not letting them understand structure, not letting

2023
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:56,520
Speaker 1: them understand rules and boundaries. I'm telling you, they're gonna

2024
01:56:56,520 --> 01:57:00,680
Speaker 1: be thirty five years old with a brand. Say, damn,

2025
01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do. I will give piece

2026
01:57:04,040 --> 01:57:06,080
Speaker 1: some credit. What I do think p has been able

2027
01:57:06,120 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 1: to do is do be great at consumer facing. He's

2028
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:12,600
Speaker 1: been able to be great at like being almost like

2029
01:57:13,240 --> 01:57:18,360
Speaker 1: a high class brand ambassador. But respectfully to Pete, that

2030
01:57:18,520 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 1: ain't business. When you ask yourself, how many companies do

2031
01:57:23,080 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 1: the homie really own? What's really going on and what

2032
01:57:26,560 --> 01:57:29,800
Speaker 1: will happen is your children are there. One thing out

2033
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 1: didn't like though, is Romeo putting all that owners fag

2034
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 1: ip and things like that. They can discuss about the

2035
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,280
Speaker 1: wrap snack thing and we'll get in a little bit

2036
01:57:39,360 --> 01:57:41,640
Speaker 1: of that here in a second. You can't be thirty

2037
01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 1: five saying we live in check the check. We ain't

2038
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:49,560
Speaker 1: living check the check. You live in check the check

2039
01:57:51,280 --> 01:57:54,080
Speaker 1: at thirty five. You need to take the French out

2040
01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:58,200
Speaker 1: your vocabulary because we ain't living nothing at thirty five?

2041
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 1: You living check the chick. And what does that say

2042
01:58:02,120 --> 01:58:07,520
Speaker 1: to your hustle? You are Romeo Miller. You can't figure

2043
01:58:07,640 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 1: nothing out with the brand brother, And that's why you

2044
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,480
Speaker 1: hear him bring the wrap snack thing up. It's because

2045
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:17,760
Speaker 1: that's all he got left. I'm thirty five now, man,

2046
01:58:17,800 --> 01:58:22,360
Speaker 1: I'm a fool like adult man like I ain't really

2047
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:26,360
Speaker 1: the music is done. The TV shit ain't hidden. They

2048
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:28,920
Speaker 1: say they ain't really paying in TV like I thought.

2049
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 1: But boy, they got me on some chip bags running

2050
01:58:33,560 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 1: around here. I wonder what the hell is head doing?

2051
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:40,440
Speaker 1: And he said his father told him that that was

2052
01:58:40,520 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 1: his company and he would get a big payday at

2053
01:58:43,680 --> 01:58:46,960
Speaker 1: some point. I know for a fact that that company

2054
01:58:47,040 --> 01:58:51,720
Speaker 1: belongs to Jane. I also know for a fact that

2055
01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 1: James got a lot of love for Pete. That's his

2056
01:58:54,440 --> 01:58:59,520
Speaker 1: guy guy guy like started like when he first got

2057
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:01,960
Speaker 1: into the to the to the business side of things

2058
01:59:02,040 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 1: with labels. Pete was one of the hottest niggas coming

2059
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:07,960
Speaker 1: off of that little run them early two thousands. And

2060
01:59:08,120 --> 01:59:12,120
Speaker 1: I'll let so him and Pete been knowing each other

2061
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:16,160
Speaker 1: for wow. But when I hear even things like that,

2062
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:20,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, When even when p says that, I'm like, yo, Pete,

2063
01:59:20,640 --> 01:59:24,040
Speaker 1: Why we gotta say that though? Why we can't just

2064
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:27,240
Speaker 1: say yo? I was early James was only I was

2065
01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 1: early with him. I helped them build it. Why we

2066
01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:33,800
Speaker 1: gotta say the part in the thing or why we

2067
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:36,360
Speaker 1: gotta say I own it? Like? What's that? What's that?

2068
01:59:36,600 --> 01:59:38,960
Speaker 1: What is that little thing? Now? Is it trying to

2069
01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:43,040
Speaker 1: recover from what you thought you fumbled. Is there something

2070
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:46,000
Speaker 1: now in the psyche where you gotta tell yourself to

2071
01:59:46,160 --> 01:59:49,920
Speaker 1: keep going? Like yo, bro, I can't look around and say, nah, man,

2072
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 1: I did all of that and they left me with nothing. Nah?

2073
01:59:54,720 --> 01:59:59,160
Speaker 1: Hell nah? They whooped me. What's some information? Some texts?

2074
01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:03,200
Speaker 1: Some don't? Nah? Hell nah? You know what I mean?

2075
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:05,320
Speaker 1: Is it that or what is it? Because I think

2076
02:00:05,440 --> 02:00:10,080
Speaker 1: if we can truly deal with the real circumstances, we

2077
02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:13,720
Speaker 1: can put each other in position. You understand, I kick

2078
02:00:13,880 --> 02:00:16,600
Speaker 1: high level money shit, but I'm every time I run

2079
02:00:16,640 --> 02:00:19,080
Speaker 1: into people in the industry with money, I tell him

2080
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:22,760
Speaker 1: I need to offset some of this. I'm looking to

2081
02:00:22,840 --> 02:00:25,520
Speaker 1: offset costs. I need some cash flow. If I don't

2082
02:00:25,560 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 1: get none, I'll be okay. But I'm letting forward right

2083
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:32,200
Speaker 1: so because I think, Pete, what what what? What? What happened?

2084
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 1: Or And I'm just speculating because I'm looking to learn

2085
02:00:35,560 --> 02:00:38,440
Speaker 1: off the situation in its entirety. But I'm trying to

2086
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:45,160
Speaker 1: figure out from Romeo's perspective, what did he really get?

2087
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:50,080
Speaker 1: Did you get some game from the homie? Because he

2088
02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:53,840
Speaker 1: putting game down now, but as you picking any game up,

2089
02:00:56,280 --> 02:01:00,560
Speaker 1: is the game really concrete because you know, the way

2090
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:03,400
Speaker 1: Romeo made it sound is almost like and this is

2091
02:01:03,480 --> 02:01:06,240
Speaker 1: what people was speaking about why it was important for pee,

2092
02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:10,320
Speaker 1: Like Yo, you tearing me down, bro, Like you're making

2093
02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:12,320
Speaker 1: people look at this shit a certain kind of way.

2094
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 1: And you ain't got no hustle. So what you're gonna

2095
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 1: just drown the family? You're gonna just drown the family?

2096
02:01:21,600 --> 02:01:23,200
Speaker 1: Is that? What is that? What you do? You're gonna

2097
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:26,880
Speaker 1: take everything down with you, And so it's I just

2098
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 1: hate to see it, but I know this is real life.

2099
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:33,920
Speaker 1: These things happen, you know. I prayed that my children, Um,

2100
02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:37,080
Speaker 1: and I promise you this is something that worries me

2101
02:01:37,160 --> 02:01:39,760
Speaker 1: and keeps me up at night and wakes me up

2102
02:01:39,800 --> 02:01:42,440
Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. I gotta make sure

2103
02:01:42,600 --> 02:01:46,560
Speaker 1: I really know my children, you know what I'm saying, like,

2104
02:01:47,680 --> 02:01:50,320
Speaker 1: not the version of them when I'm there, Like really

2105
02:01:50,440 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 1: know about what he'll do or about what he has say,

2106
02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 1: what he's into. And that takes time, you know. And

2107
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 1: and I'm calling on the universe to provide me with

2108
02:02:02,680 --> 02:02:06,560
Speaker 1: understanding on dealing with that as my children are getting older,

2109
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:09,120
Speaker 1: because what will happen is is you'll have a version

2110
02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:12,120
Speaker 1: of this kid in your head and there'll be something

2111
02:02:12,200 --> 02:02:18,600
Speaker 1: totally different outside of your presence. Right. I know people

2112
02:02:19,000 --> 02:02:22,560
Speaker 1: who will say he didn't say that or she didn't

2113
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 1: say that before they even investigated, because because in their mind,

2114
02:02:26,360 --> 02:02:29,920
Speaker 1: they truly believe that they had this version of their

2115
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:35,440
Speaker 1: child in their head. And unfortunately a lot of times

2116
02:02:35,560 --> 02:02:38,800
Speaker 1: they're wrong. You ain't paying attention, right, you You just

2117
02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:42,320
Speaker 1: believe in anything you wanting them right. And so sometimes

2118
02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:45,320
Speaker 1: you gotta understand how to even be a parrot to

2119
02:02:45,480 --> 02:02:47,920
Speaker 1: a child to come up in that kind of environment.

2120
02:02:50,440 --> 02:02:53,440
Speaker 1: Because with Pete going through the level of shit he

2121
02:02:53,560 --> 02:02:57,200
Speaker 1: went through, and I'm gonna be honest with you, if

2122
02:02:57,280 --> 02:02:59,200
Speaker 1: Pete done this right, he ain't got no being this

2123
02:02:59,320 --> 02:03:03,920
Speaker 1: husting like he hustling at this point somewhere, and he'll

2124
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:06,400
Speaker 1: tell you had tax problems, a certain problems. So he's

2125
02:03:06,440 --> 02:03:12,440
Speaker 1: still hustling. I'm talking about like I'm hustling like he

2126
02:03:12,680 --> 02:03:17,280
Speaker 1: wasn't like he had two fifth in the nineties or

2127
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:20,560
Speaker 1: the early two thousand, right, he hustling like one of

2128
02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 1: us hustling that's looking for our first fifth. They're sixty,

2129
02:03:24,440 --> 02:03:27,240
Speaker 1: you understand. So he's made some kind of some some

2130
02:03:27,480 --> 02:03:33,040
Speaker 1: fumbles have happened. If master P had a comprehensive understanding

2131
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:37,200
Speaker 1: of the business, I don't see him still hustling in

2132
02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:39,760
Speaker 1: the way that he's hustling at this point. This thing

2133
02:03:39,880 --> 02:03:44,320
Speaker 1: started a conversation this between him and Romeo, and master

2134
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:47,600
Speaker 1: P went and sat with Nino Brown. Shout out, Nino Brown.

2135
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna take a look and listen to a little

2136
02:03:50,400 --> 02:03:53,680
Speaker 1: bit of that conversation, and we'll come in in and

2137
02:03:53,760 --> 02:03:56,240
Speaker 1: out whenever we feel as though there's some game we

2138
02:03:56,320 --> 02:04:01,880
Speaker 1: can put down. These bad places out of bed, out

2139
02:04:01,920 --> 02:04:03,600
Speaker 1: of had to deal with people that I know what

2140
02:04:03,800 --> 02:04:06,400
Speaker 1: these people on, even the boyfriend. The boyfriend was on

2141
02:04:06,560 --> 02:04:09,120
Speaker 1: drugs too, but my someone making all about the barfriend.

2142
02:04:09,160 --> 02:04:11,320
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm speaking in my house. I'm thinking, man,

2143
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:13,760
Speaker 1: well I got to go. And then my cousin he

2144
02:04:14,240 --> 02:04:16,880
Speaker 1: then twenty two years he thinking, man, we need to

2145
02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:19,720
Speaker 1: get the boyfriend. And I'm like, man, I thought about that, said, man,

2146
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:22,680
Speaker 1: look there was a church of my daughter. This couldn't

2147
02:04:22,720 --> 02:04:25,640
Speaker 1: last that long. Keep doing it. I didn't fit. No,

2148
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:28,560
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, like, let's be real, a little piece

2149
02:04:28,640 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 1: of it. You out of here for real? Or its

2150
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:34,520
Speaker 1: so my things. I said, I'm gonna grieve like everybody hurt.

2151
02:04:35,120 --> 02:04:37,240
Speaker 1: You gotta go stay with your mama. I'm not putting

2152
02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 1: you out of my house. You're going with your mama.

2153
02:04:39,320 --> 02:04:41,480
Speaker 1: They stay in the house that I'm paying for. Think

2154
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:43,800
Speaker 1: about it, so you never get your really priviles as

2155
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:46,480
Speaker 1: you never get put out. They got homeless people. You

2156
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:48,680
Speaker 1: look at all the things that's going on. Man, how

2157
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:50,600
Speaker 1: people just talking to talking but they don't really know

2158
02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 1: the truth. So let me break the truth down to

2159
02:04:55,320 --> 02:04:58,320
Speaker 1: how much you think Tyer Peller pay actors and actors.

2160
02:05:01,120 --> 02:05:05,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest. You see you wrong, Tyler Perry.

2161
02:05:06,120 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 1: Go look at Google this, y'all Tyler Perry actors. It's

2162
02:05:09,560 --> 02:05:13,480
Speaker 1: sixty seven thousand dollars. You see what I'm saying. So

2163
02:05:13,560 --> 02:05:16,160
Speaker 1: if Tyler Perry make two hundred and eighty million dollars

2164
02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:19,320
Speaker 1: off the project, that's his money, right. You signed up

2165
02:05:19,360 --> 02:05:22,480
Speaker 1: for sixty thousand dollars. I don't care how long, because

2166
02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 1: that's all you're gonna get. That's what you signed. That's

2167
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:27,680
Speaker 1: what you're signed for. Okay, And then nobody made them

2168
02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:31,160
Speaker 1: sign nothing, no right, so think about nothing. Difference is

2169
02:05:31,240 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 1: Hollywood gonna break me down because I'm gonna get dependent

2170
02:05:33,520 --> 02:05:36,320
Speaker 1: due and I don't need think about it. So now

2171
02:05:37,080 --> 02:05:39,440
Speaker 1: what do you think you make on the nickel loder

2172
02:05:39,480 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 1: your ship? Because if my son say, they may think

2173
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:44,960
Speaker 1: a million of dollars, No, they don't pay like what

2174
02:05:45,080 --> 02:05:49,080
Speaker 1: do you think they paid Juggie Google the highest paid

2175
02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:53,440
Speaker 1: start on nickeloding. That's anybody doing. The journalists can do

2176
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:55,040
Speaker 1: this too, and they really Because this I've got to

2177
02:05:55,160 --> 02:05:58,160
Speaker 1: educate out people. Is everybody wanna get the hollars Love

2178
02:05:58,240 --> 02:06:00,440
Speaker 1: and hill Pop came to be like a race one,

2179
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:02,280
Speaker 1: but the business ain't gonna be the same because you

2180
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:04,840
Speaker 1: didn't expose the whole bunch of stuff that don't need

2181
02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:08,400
Speaker 1: to be exposed because it's not really no exposure. That's

2182
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 1: what I want to ask you. Oh yeah, I don't

2183
02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:12,440
Speaker 1: get this. How much is the highest pain? All right?

2184
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:18,960
Speaker 1: So the highest pain? Nickelodeon started Arian Crime. She's worried

2185
02:06:18,960 --> 02:06:22,200
Speaker 1: about the hunters filthy million. Well, how she started started

2186
02:06:22,240 --> 02:06:25,520
Speaker 1: out musical and when she was thirteen she quickly parlayed

2187
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:28,360
Speaker 1: was access to TV. But she was cast on the

2188
02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:33,240
Speaker 1: Nickelodeon and show The Tourists has cast Volland time. However,

2189
02:06:33,400 --> 02:06:36,520
Speaker 1: Brandy didn't make a fortune on Nickelodi and TMBN cover

2190
02:06:36,640 --> 02:06:39,840
Speaker 1: that showed me at nine thousand now wow, and one

2191
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:44,840
Speaker 1: year was that two thousands and nine, two thousand and nine.

2192
02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:50,360
Speaker 1: My son was on Nickelodeon at two thousand three to

2193
02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:55,040
Speaker 1: two thousand and six, and we shot the show in Canada,

2194
02:06:55,320 --> 02:06:57,320
Speaker 1: so she was showing Canada that mean we want for

2195
02:06:57,440 --> 02:06:59,760
Speaker 1: tax breaks. Yeah, it's not a so I just want

2196
02:06:59,800 --> 02:07:03,200
Speaker 1: to take the people to right. So that did. The

2197
02:07:03,320 --> 02:07:06,680
Speaker 1: Olsen Twins made twenty four hundred dollars episode, so I'm

2198
02:07:06,680 --> 02:07:09,720
Speaker 1: just saying she made nine dollars. My son probably made

2199
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:14,200
Speaker 1: five thousand episode. Right now, let's say ten dollars. He

2200
02:07:14,320 --> 02:07:21,120
Speaker 1: had fifty three episodes. Fifty three episodes times ten thousand,

2201
02:07:21,680 --> 02:07:24,000
Speaker 1: I'll give him an extra dollars. How much is day

2202
02:07:25,080 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 1: hump five hundred and thirty diars from million? A little

2203
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:33,280
Speaker 1: bit old, half a minute from twenty two thousand and

2204
02:07:33,320 --> 02:07:36,640
Speaker 1: three to two thousand and six. I think about that. Now,

2205
02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:39,000
Speaker 1: you gotta pay taxes on o kay, So think, okay,

2206
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,560
Speaker 1: you gotta okay, But if you're gonna pay my taxes,

2207
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,720
Speaker 1: let's so I had a tax problem. Think about it.

2208
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:47,200
Speaker 1: I had a tax problem that I paid, and everybody

2209
02:07:47,280 --> 02:07:50,160
Speaker 1: running on the internet said, my son used his money

2210
02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:52,800
Speaker 1: to pay your taxes. Don't how are you gonna pay

2211
02:07:52,840 --> 02:07:55,120
Speaker 1: my taxes? If you only made you ain't even make it.

2212
02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:57,640
Speaker 1: My tax problems in two thousand four, I would have

2213
02:07:57,720 --> 02:08:01,720
Speaker 1: made on damn. He went from two thousand and three

2214
02:08:01,880 --> 02:08:04,160
Speaker 1: to two thousand and six to get five others. So

2215
02:08:04,360 --> 02:08:07,760
Speaker 1: if if if he was making fifteen an episode saves,

2216
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 1: it was fifteen episodes a year, So two episodes that

2217
02:08:12,920 --> 02:08:16,360
Speaker 1: would be two thousand three to two thousand and four

2218
02:08:16,600 --> 02:08:19,800
Speaker 1: come up. All right. So for those of you listening,

2219
02:08:19,880 --> 02:08:23,600
Speaker 1: what P is doing is he's trying to show people

2220
02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:28,600
Speaker 1: that Romeo coming out saying he paid his taxes was allowed. Y'all.

2221
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:30,400
Speaker 1: Don't get it, y'a because y'all are doing it because oh,

2222
02:08:30,480 --> 02:08:33,360
Speaker 1: y'all see somebody on TV. So think about it. At

2223
02:08:33,440 --> 02:08:37,200
Speaker 1: this time you've got one fifty. My chances is Bill Williams,

2224
02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:39,760
Speaker 1: y'all know that was the biggest thing. Oh, everybody laughing,

2225
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:41,960
Speaker 1: Master P over what he's done. But look, how go over?

2226
02:08:42,720 --> 02:08:45,240
Speaker 1: You gotta give him something up right, That's what I

2227
02:08:45,320 --> 02:08:48,040
Speaker 1: gave up. Sacrifice. Sacrifice, Yeah, I gave up for my

2228
02:08:48,120 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 1: family because if I would went to Jim w W

2229
02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:52,480
Speaker 1: would they be none of them that would been backing together,

2230
02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:55,120
Speaker 1: so that will be holding on to the house with

2231
02:08:55,240 --> 02:08:57,520
Speaker 1: the gold ceilings. And I gave it to the people. Man,

2232
02:08:58,640 --> 02:09:03,080
Speaker 1: this is I'm living et hum they abody c mpt

2233
02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:05,840
Speaker 1: me because I started that. But that's what I said. Okay,

2234
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:09,920
Speaker 1: y'all wanted take it. My son going to my brothers

2235
02:09:09,960 --> 02:09:11,920
Speaker 1: and all this stuff of manamentations. Me and my brothers

2236
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:14,680
Speaker 1: side up even with SI seek fort itself in jail.

2237
02:09:14,680 --> 02:09:17,280
Speaker 1: You know how many people man with me because that thing' see,

2238
02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:18,840
Speaker 1: like I stopped. Man, I got to see how the

2239
02:09:18,880 --> 02:09:20,720
Speaker 1: jail so many times, and even when I was dealing

2240
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:24,080
Speaker 1: with them tax situations. Think about it, I'm sending money

2241
02:09:24,120 --> 02:09:26,800
Speaker 1: to somebody that's ungrateful. It mattered me and I still

2242
02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:32,320
Speaker 1: love them. Man, I knocked something off behind. See but listen,

2243
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:35,920
Speaker 1: listen to this and Silk me and Silk Me and Silver.

2244
02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:38,160
Speaker 1: Don't see how that also have a blue family who

2245
02:09:38,240 --> 02:09:39,840
Speaker 1: keep out of the business and when it's acting because

2246
02:09:39,840 --> 02:09:43,800
Speaker 1: we get through with silver Usler Silver always have some money.

2247
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:48,160
Speaker 1: Funny in wampound. Think about it. I put the money

2248
02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:51,760
Speaker 1: in wampound. Everybody constantly taking out the pop because I

2249
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:56,600
Speaker 1: can't even do nothing with my money. Tak abody if

2250
02:09:56,600 --> 02:10:00,400
Speaker 1: you will street doing, you understand right, So now, yeah,

2251
02:10:00,440 --> 02:10:02,720
Speaker 1: I definitely get what he's saying. Basically, when he were

2252
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:05,520
Speaker 1: making out the money all his kids, his old lady,

2253
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:08,440
Speaker 1: whoever he was mentioning with with your eating out the part,

2254
02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:12,480
Speaker 1: I get that. I definitely understand what he's saying. But

2255
02:10:13,280 --> 02:10:16,640
Speaker 1: at the same time, like I got millionaire budets, they

2256
02:10:16,720 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 1: got structure even on that, on the disbursement of income, right, yeah,

2257
02:10:23,760 --> 02:10:25,480
Speaker 1: you get to eat off his plate, but it's in

2258
02:10:25,560 --> 02:10:28,880
Speaker 1: a certain way. You get this amount each month, you know,

2259
02:10:29,080 --> 02:10:31,400
Speaker 1: maybe back weekly first or the month something like that.

2260
02:10:31,600 --> 02:10:34,200
Speaker 1: It sounded like he was just giving them free access

2261
02:10:34,280 --> 02:10:37,080
Speaker 1: to the accounting. For me, that's strange. I wouldn't have

2262
02:10:37,160 --> 02:10:39,480
Speaker 1: done that, and I think that's something we need to

2263
02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:43,400
Speaker 1: learn too. Right again, learning from this is yo. If

2264
02:10:43,480 --> 02:10:46,240
Speaker 1: you do hit a lick, if you do go big,

2265
02:10:46,760 --> 02:10:49,960
Speaker 1: you understand all your dreams do come true. You can't

2266
02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:52,640
Speaker 1: just let the family run through the money and dig

2267
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 1: a hole big enough for the whole family to fall in.

2268
02:10:57,520 --> 02:11:00,200
Speaker 1: You know already you're dealing with a lot of these others.

2269
02:11:00,240 --> 02:11:02,480
Speaker 1: To let these little boys dig a hole big enough

2270
02:11:02,520 --> 02:11:05,640
Speaker 1: for the family to fall in. They're crash the whole family,

2271
02:11:05,800 --> 02:11:08,760
Speaker 1: burn the house down, Fuck the whole situation though, just

2272
02:11:08,880 --> 02:11:12,760
Speaker 1: because they're emotionally tied to how they feel. Right, I

2273
02:11:12,800 --> 02:11:15,400
Speaker 1: ain't living like that. I'm on some other ship, right,

2274
02:11:15,520 --> 02:11:19,080
Speaker 1: So I think that we gotta understand we can't let

2275
02:11:19,160 --> 02:11:22,200
Speaker 1: the family take the head of the house down. That's

2276
02:11:22,240 --> 02:11:25,160
Speaker 1: why anywhere a man is that he not respected, he

2277
02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:29,080
Speaker 1: gonna flee there because a man don't got no business

2278
02:11:29,160 --> 02:11:32,560
Speaker 1: in the home he not respected in. You understand what

2279
02:11:32,640 --> 02:11:36,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's kind of all real men understand that.

2280
02:11:36,080 --> 02:11:39,120
Speaker 1: If you can't put boundaries around your own shit, if

2281
02:11:39,160 --> 02:11:41,480
Speaker 1: you can't say, I'm making this money, this is howard

2282
02:11:41,560 --> 02:11:44,160
Speaker 1: needs to be handled. I bought this house. This howard

2283
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:46,600
Speaker 1: needs to be handled. I'm buying you a car, but

2284
02:11:46,760 --> 02:11:48,600
Speaker 1: this is how it needs to be. If you can't

2285
02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:52,800
Speaker 1: put no stipulations or boundaries around things that you're providing,

2286
02:11:53,040 --> 02:11:56,120
Speaker 1: are you a man anyway? Then folks just using you?

2287
02:11:57,320 --> 02:11:59,480
Speaker 1: Then folks don't give a fuck about you. And I

2288
02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:01,960
Speaker 1: think what you consider family to make you blur that

2289
02:12:02,760 --> 02:12:05,880
Speaker 1: where it's like nine nine nice post to be like this.

2290
02:12:07,080 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 1: I get tired of that too. Me and I always

2291
02:12:09,080 --> 02:12:11,920
Speaker 1: got to take the short end of the stick like Dawn.

2292
02:12:12,080 --> 02:12:15,040
Speaker 1: Main't fuck out that. Niggas deserve to be happy, like

2293
02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:17,520
Speaker 1: you deserve to live in that big house you like

2294
02:12:17,760 --> 02:12:20,680
Speaker 1: the way you like it, deserved to be cleaned, how

2295
02:12:20,760 --> 02:12:23,480
Speaker 1: you like the meals you won't like? You don't. Men

2296
02:12:23,560 --> 02:12:26,480
Speaker 1: don't always got to being happy wife, happy life. Shit

2297
02:12:26,920 --> 02:12:30,800
Speaker 1: now it's happy spouse, happy house. It means whoever, both

2298
02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:33,200
Speaker 1: people need to be happy. But I hear a lot

2299
02:12:33,240 --> 02:12:35,880
Speaker 1: of this ship where it's like the man just needs

2300
02:12:35,920 --> 02:12:39,000
Speaker 1: to swallow his pride and be nice and just let

2301
02:12:39,080 --> 02:12:42,400
Speaker 1: everybody run over him. Main't fuck out that. Put boundaries

2302
02:12:42,480 --> 02:12:46,360
Speaker 1: around your money, put boundaries around your piece, Put boundaries

2303
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:49,320
Speaker 1: around the circumstantial things that you're gonna allow to happen

2304
02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:52,640
Speaker 1: to you. You understand, you ain't got to accept anything

2305
02:12:52,800 --> 02:12:56,920
Speaker 1: in the name of love. Fuck you, Tom back. You

2306
02:12:56,960 --> 02:13:00,520
Speaker 1: ain't got to accept anything in the name or family. Man,

2307
02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:04,000
Speaker 1: My kid's gonna respect what I say. You're gonna respect

2308
02:13:04,040 --> 02:13:07,400
Speaker 1: and have boundaries until you provide for yourself. If you're

2309
02:13:07,440 --> 02:13:10,480
Speaker 1: a tough guy and you feel like you gonna provide

2310
02:13:10,600 --> 02:13:16,480
Speaker 1: for yourself, pay attention the podcast Boo Boo Boo boo boo, No,

2311
02:13:16,680 --> 02:13:18,800
Speaker 1: you dirty something years old. Not but you don't wanna

2312
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:20,280
Speaker 1: listen to me. You tell me I want to do

2313
02:13:20,360 --> 02:13:21,960
Speaker 1: my own thing. I get a text that I'm thinking

2314
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:24,840
Speaker 1: all this stuff about my daughter. I'm already messed up.

2315
02:13:26,040 --> 02:13:28,040
Speaker 1: But you know, kids play games because they't No, we

2316
02:13:28,040 --> 02:13:30,200
Speaker 1: ain't gonna get on social media. So I'm like, Okay,

2317
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:31,840
Speaker 1: when I was in the streets, I was the best

2318
02:13:31,880 --> 02:13:34,280
Speaker 1: I can be in the streets. When I got into

2319
02:13:34,360 --> 02:13:36,280
Speaker 1: carfor America, I'm the best I could be. That's why

2320
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:39,240
Speaker 1: I say, probably got waste town and I gonna social me.

2321
02:13:39,360 --> 02:13:41,120
Speaker 1: Look at it all my post. I never say nothing

2322
02:13:41,160 --> 02:13:44,000
Speaker 1: negative about my kids, none of that thing about all

2323
02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:46,840
Speaker 1: the time. It's positive. Why are you gonna mess that

2324
02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:49,120
Speaker 1: up just because you ain't? No said when you can

2325
02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:52,000
Speaker 1: come to the how unless you got other alterns, you're

2326
02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:53,920
Speaker 1: running with the wrong people. They're not telling you that

2327
02:13:54,000 --> 02:13:56,280
Speaker 1: you I know what it is, this entitlement and this

2328
02:13:56,440 --> 02:13:59,640
Speaker 1: the mom the moment he said, Mama was right. So

2329
02:14:00,000 --> 02:14:02,280
Speaker 1: about how Mama was right. But think about it, Mama

2330
02:14:02,360 --> 02:14:04,520
Speaker 1: little with her boy friend in the house, I'm paying

2331
02:14:04,560 --> 02:14:05,960
Speaker 1: for But I love her that much that I don't

2332
02:14:05,960 --> 02:14:08,680
Speaker 1: even want not to be happy. Be happy. I'm taking

2333
02:14:08,720 --> 02:14:10,800
Speaker 1: care of both the other. Now would you do that?

2334
02:14:12,160 --> 02:14:14,640
Speaker 1: Let's be on. That's that's how I realize I'm taking

2335
02:14:14,680 --> 02:14:18,440
Speaker 1: care of hella dog. I'm doing that. Man. Look I'm cool,

2336
02:14:18,800 --> 02:14:22,480
Speaker 1: y'all for staying get the so you got to look

2337
02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:24,200
Speaker 1: at but for me go When I was in a pratject,

2338
02:14:24,520 --> 02:14:27,040
Speaker 1: all the kids that I messed with their mama, I

2339
02:14:27,160 --> 02:14:29,640
Speaker 1: still call him my kids. Some of them bad, some

2340
02:14:31,520 --> 02:14:33,800
Speaker 1: I had. I'm the only black person in the Orleans

2341
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:39,680
Speaker 1: with a building. Hurry damn insurance. I remember that when

2342
02:14:39,760 --> 02:14:41,640
Speaker 1: cur is coming, and I want you to know that

2343
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:44,440
Speaker 1: when it comes, I want you prepared. If all you

2344
02:14:44,600 --> 02:14:48,760
Speaker 1: do is focus on I ain't never say. Let me

2345
02:14:48,880 --> 02:14:51,240
Speaker 1: tell you something. After I was up on top and

2346
02:14:51,320 --> 02:14:53,880
Speaker 1: then I stumbled a little bit, think about it. Then

2347
02:14:53,960 --> 02:14:56,640
Speaker 1: my younger kids came up. I'll be honest with y'all.

2348
02:14:56,760 --> 02:14:58,520
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to raise girls. But the

2349
02:14:58,680 --> 02:15:01,440
Speaker 1: mama wouldn't do what I They think about it. So

2350
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling the mama like you got to let me.

2351
02:15:03,520 --> 02:15:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm want to teach my daughters how to how to

2352
02:15:05,720 --> 02:15:08,240
Speaker 1: how to feed women, and how a man should treat you. Oh,

2353
02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:10,240
Speaker 1: they just need this and that I'm like, no, they

2354
02:15:10,280 --> 02:15:12,960
Speaker 1: don't leave the especially they got boyfriend. Because when I

2355
02:15:13,080 --> 02:15:16,440
Speaker 1: was with you, let me talking, my grandmother did. Romeo

2356
02:15:16,560 --> 02:15:18,360
Speaker 1: was in a project with me when just one years old,

2357
02:15:18,640 --> 02:15:20,640
Speaker 1: and I left. We left out the project out that

2358
02:15:20,720 --> 02:15:23,000
Speaker 1: so we never seen the real or nothing that right,

2359
02:15:23,680 --> 02:15:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm in a project with my grandmother. My grandmother found

2360
02:15:26,640 --> 02:15:29,720
Speaker 1: out there. You know what I'm doing my thing. I

2361
02:15:29,840 --> 02:15:31,760
Speaker 1: got a girl in the house. I ain't gonna lie.

2362
02:15:32,040 --> 02:15:35,520
Speaker 1: Let me say this too though, just being always one hunter,

2363
02:15:36,240 --> 02:15:38,320
Speaker 1: you feel a way though a little nigga you raised

2364
02:15:38,440 --> 02:15:40,680
Speaker 1: trying to buck up to you and talk about you

2365
02:15:41,400 --> 02:15:47,000
Speaker 1: like P being like, damn dog, I birth this little nigga,

2366
02:15:47,040 --> 02:15:51,520
Speaker 1: took him out the projects at one years old, now,

2367
02:15:51,600 --> 02:15:54,000
Speaker 1: I mean had him around, made him a style. I

2368
02:15:54,120 --> 02:15:57,520
Speaker 1: fumbled some bags. What's a constant theme that I'm noticing

2369
02:15:58,600 --> 02:16:00,880
Speaker 1: based on what P is saying though, is that a

2370
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:02,920
Speaker 1: lot of the people that love him or that he's

2371
02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:09,560
Speaker 1: had personal intimate relationships with has not given him the

2372
02:16:10,120 --> 02:16:13,200
Speaker 1: lead way that maybe the public gives him right because

2373
02:16:13,240 --> 02:16:16,480
Speaker 1: he say his daughter's mothers wouldn't listen to him about

2374
02:16:16,520 --> 02:16:19,560
Speaker 1: the children. He said, damn what Romeo, where you ain't listening.

2375
02:16:20,400 --> 02:16:23,000
Speaker 1: My other family member took the building and wouldn't right.

2376
02:16:23,080 --> 02:16:27,200
Speaker 1: And so it's like those personal relationships get harder and

2377
02:16:27,440 --> 02:16:30,680
Speaker 1: harder to maintain the more success you get in the

2378
02:16:30,800 --> 02:16:34,320
Speaker 1: public eye, especially when you sell celebrity. I continue to

2379
02:16:34,440 --> 02:16:37,760
Speaker 1: tell y'all to put a product in your hand. I

2380
02:16:37,920 --> 02:16:41,040
Speaker 1: continue to tell all the hot rapping niggas to put

2381
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:44,160
Speaker 1: something in your hand. They ain't listening to me. Right,

2382
02:16:44,280 --> 02:16:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show nigga what to do. I have more

2383
02:16:46,400 --> 02:16:49,080
Speaker 1: money than your favorite rapper real soon because I'm dealing

2384
02:16:49,160 --> 02:16:52,480
Speaker 1: with products. You understand me. But you got to put

2385
02:16:52,520 --> 02:16:55,560
Speaker 1: a product in your hand. But he sold celebrity for

2386
02:16:55,680 --> 02:16:59,080
Speaker 1: a long time. You gotta remember, p gave us a

2387
02:16:59,160 --> 02:17:02,440
Speaker 1: lot of shit that that didn't work. The rap shit

2388
02:17:02,560 --> 02:17:04,960
Speaker 1: did well, but he went down a list of things

2389
02:17:05,040 --> 02:17:08,280
Speaker 1: that may have been was considered to be bad investments.

2390
02:17:08,320 --> 02:17:10,680
Speaker 1: If we just focused on the bottom line, I ain't

2391
02:17:10,720 --> 02:17:13,200
Speaker 1: talking about what it did for culture and moving the

2392
02:17:13,360 --> 02:17:17,000
Speaker 1: culture forward and being the first black person that I'm

2393
02:17:17,080 --> 02:17:21,520
Speaker 1: saying business wise, When we get down to the numbers,

2394
02:17:21,600 --> 02:17:24,480
Speaker 1: the exes and the olds, some of those things would

2395
02:17:24,520 --> 02:17:29,600
Speaker 1: be considered bad investments on this side. All right, let's

2396
02:17:29,640 --> 02:17:34,040
Speaker 1: listen to this, James, So think about this, rap Snacks.

2397
02:17:34,600 --> 02:17:39,360
Speaker 1: What's a promotional bad for Universal? So look at this,

2398
02:17:39,600 --> 02:17:42,360
Speaker 1: it was promotion. Nobody made money. So I'm all right,

2399
02:17:42,440 --> 02:17:45,320
Speaker 1: let me let me clarify that again because my relationship

2400
02:17:45,400 --> 02:17:50,400
Speaker 1: with James, right, that's what rap Snacks was for Universal,

2401
02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:54,280
Speaker 1: That's what raps That was not what Rap Snacks was

2402
02:17:54,600 --> 02:17:58,320
Speaker 1: at its inception. And I think that language can cause

2403
02:17:58,400 --> 02:18:00,880
Speaker 1: for some confusion, but I want to clarify that, not

2404
02:18:01,040 --> 02:18:08,440
Speaker 1: only for James and p but in search of the truth, right,

2405
02:18:08,560 --> 02:18:15,280
Speaker 1: because we can only extract information from real occurrences. Anything

2406
02:18:15,400 --> 02:18:18,560
Speaker 1: outside of that is wasting our time, and I think, respectfully,

2407
02:18:18,920 --> 02:18:21,440
Speaker 1: we gotta deal with the truth. So Rap Snacks was

2408
02:18:21,520 --> 02:18:25,680
Speaker 1: birth before he ran into Universal. Universal was another play

2409
02:18:25,760 --> 02:18:28,560
Speaker 1: he would do. And that's what I'm telling y'all about

2410
02:18:28,920 --> 02:18:32,200
Speaker 1: knowing how to knowing how to make money off your

2411
02:18:32,240 --> 02:18:34,480
Speaker 1: product or your brand, knowing, Oh I can go over

2412
02:18:34,560 --> 02:18:37,080
Speaker 1: here with it. Oh shit, I got a podcast, nigga

2413
02:18:37,120 --> 02:18:40,680
Speaker 1: that could be this. Really that's a marketing machine. How

2414
02:18:40,720 --> 02:18:45,760
Speaker 1: do I? Oh? I got I need to partner with right,

2415
02:18:45,920 --> 02:18:49,360
Speaker 1: understanding how to pivot, what your leverage is, and how

2416
02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:53,360
Speaker 1: to identify And that's what Pe is referencing. This is

2417
02:18:53,440 --> 02:18:57,320
Speaker 1: when p got involved. This was a pivotal time for

2418
02:18:57,520 --> 02:19:00,600
Speaker 1: James and rap Snacks because he was able to get

2419
02:19:00,640 --> 02:19:03,600
Speaker 1: a chick here. And I can't continue to tell y'all,

2420
02:19:03,640 --> 02:19:05,840
Speaker 1: don't give a funk how big my house, Yes, how

2421
02:19:05,959 --> 02:19:08,959
Speaker 1: much money I got. I need cash flow to offset

2422
02:19:09,080 --> 02:19:12,240
Speaker 1: some of the calls. That's a period and this allowed

2423
02:19:12,480 --> 02:19:15,879
Speaker 1: James to get a check through Universal. Let's pay attention

2424
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:18,760
Speaker 1: to what Pas saying. Think about the people go and

2425
02:19:18,920 --> 02:19:21,600
Speaker 1: look back rolling your fro up the little video. But man,

2426
02:19:21,720 --> 02:19:24,440
Speaker 1: come on Brook James and want you on the bad

2427
02:19:25,280 --> 02:19:27,960
Speaker 1: James came to me, said me, and James almost fought up.

2428
02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:30,920
Speaker 1: We were almost actually fought because James, I don't want

2429
02:19:30,959 --> 02:19:33,080
Speaker 1: I want you on the bay. You're the hottest, right,

2430
02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:35,199
Speaker 1: I say. But think about at the time, I say, James,

2431
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:38,640
Speaker 1: I don't need to be on the bag. I got

2432
02:19:38,720 --> 02:19:40,320
Speaker 1: my son. I want to put him on the back.

2433
02:19:40,879 --> 02:19:43,880
Speaker 1: And James say sacrifice. I sacrifice and guess wa, look

2434
02:19:43,920 --> 02:19:46,840
Speaker 1: how I came back at refstage. We don't make no

2435
02:19:46,879 --> 02:19:49,800
Speaker 1: money for years. Think about you number people want to

2436
02:19:49,840 --> 02:19:53,120
Speaker 1: get lads, you want to get the ridos bro We

2437
02:19:53,160 --> 02:19:55,720
Speaker 1: didn't make no money for years, like we just started

2438
02:19:55,800 --> 02:19:58,480
Speaker 1: making money James just when Romeo was a kid. He

2439
02:19:58,640 --> 02:20:04,160
Speaker 1: never signed no deal, but there was his likeness. Let

2440
02:20:04,240 --> 02:20:07,280
Speaker 1: me say this too, when when P and other people

2441
02:20:07,360 --> 02:20:10,800
Speaker 1: say partners with James, they don't mean partners in the company,

2442
02:20:10,959 --> 02:20:15,039
Speaker 1: in ownership of the company. They mean partners in their bag. Right,

2443
02:20:15,160 --> 02:20:17,680
Speaker 1: so they get a profit split or some sort of

2444
02:20:17,720 --> 02:20:20,840
Speaker 1: split in regards to what's being sold on, behalf of

2445
02:20:21,080 --> 02:20:25,120
Speaker 1: whatever bag or product that their faces on, and so

2446
02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:28,400
Speaker 1: again they kind of blurs the lines. But let's rewind

2447
02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:32,600
Speaker 1: master P was extremely how did that time again? He

2448
02:20:32,760 --> 02:20:35,080
Speaker 1: was just coming off being viewed as one of the

2449
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:37,680
Speaker 1: most important people ever in music and he made a

2450
02:20:37,800 --> 02:20:40,480
Speaker 1: whole shitload of money. We can't take that from P.

2451
02:20:40,680 --> 02:20:43,360
Speaker 1: What he did in music. We gonna we're gonna hang

2452
02:20:43,480 --> 02:20:45,320
Speaker 1: that up in the rafters down here in the South

2453
02:20:45,440 --> 02:20:48,040
Speaker 1: and really all across the world, because I don't I

2454
02:20:48,120 --> 02:20:51,400
Speaker 1: don't think it'll be duplicated in that facet, right. He

2455
02:20:51,560 --> 02:20:54,280
Speaker 1: did something that was monumental and he moved the culture

2456
02:20:54,320 --> 02:20:56,920
Speaker 1: in a way that I think it's second to none

2457
02:20:57,040 --> 02:21:01,280
Speaker 1: in regards to that specific time frame and style of

2458
02:21:01,440 --> 02:21:06,240
Speaker 1: approaching the market. I think he brought an innovation to

2459
02:21:06,400 --> 02:21:09,440
Speaker 1: it that you know, we can still see the affix

2460
02:21:09,520 --> 02:21:13,720
Speaker 1: of today. The confusion here is the ownership. And so

2461
02:21:13,959 --> 02:21:17,840
Speaker 1: Romeo felt this though he said to him that he

2462
02:21:17,959 --> 02:21:20,880
Speaker 1: owns the company, that at some point there will be

2463
02:21:20,959 --> 02:21:23,440
Speaker 1: a cash shout and Romeo will be given some money

2464
02:21:23,480 --> 02:21:26,160
Speaker 1: because his likeness was on the bag. And if you

2465
02:21:26,240 --> 02:21:29,920
Speaker 1: do business at a young age like that, I'm sure

2466
02:21:30,040 --> 02:21:32,520
Speaker 1: Romeo couldn't have signed the contract. But I mean, what

2467
02:21:32,640 --> 02:21:35,320
Speaker 1: does that say? What does that really mean? Right? Does

2468
02:21:35,400 --> 02:21:37,440
Speaker 1: that mean he doesn't deserve to be paid or is

2469
02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:41,080
Speaker 1: that like, you know, would you put him on there

2470
02:21:41,120 --> 02:21:44,080
Speaker 1: if he didn't have those records and been on Nickelodeon? Right?

2471
02:21:44,760 --> 02:21:47,560
Speaker 1: I know it wasn't as important as he being on

2472
02:21:47,680 --> 02:21:51,280
Speaker 1: the bag, but was there any importance? Right? And if

2473
02:21:51,320 --> 02:21:53,600
Speaker 1: it isn't the money that was made, is there a

2474
02:21:53,640 --> 02:21:56,040
Speaker 1: split that goes to him any kind of split? Is

2475
02:21:56,080 --> 02:21:59,040
Speaker 1: he entitled to any amount of it? Right? And these

2476
02:21:59,160 --> 02:22:01,760
Speaker 1: questions are things that I would have asked, and Nino

2477
02:22:01,920 --> 02:22:04,480
Speaker 1: was letting them talk. But for me, it's like I

2478
02:22:04,640 --> 02:22:07,160
Speaker 1: really want to understand it, right. I got a lot

2479
02:22:07,240 --> 02:22:10,840
Speaker 1: of respect for Pete. I represent what petting them done.

2480
02:22:10,959 --> 02:22:13,240
Speaker 1: I am, I'm a product of what they put in

2481
02:22:13,360 --> 02:22:16,760
Speaker 1: the game, so I respect them, but at the same time,

2482
02:22:16,879 --> 02:22:21,120
Speaker 1: information is my most important goal. So the same about talking.

2483
02:22:21,160 --> 02:22:23,680
Speaker 1: I told you way back for the interview, I said,

2484
02:22:23,680 --> 02:22:26,119
Speaker 1: I put all the money in one pip, So you're

2485
02:22:26,120 --> 02:22:29,280
Speaker 1: constant taking out the pie. You're constant taking out the pie.

2486
02:22:29,440 --> 02:22:31,040
Speaker 1: Then what I'm saying, if you're gonna tell thinking about it,

2487
02:22:31,040 --> 02:22:33,520
Speaker 1: I Miami is about of popping places. You're young young

2488
02:22:33,600 --> 02:22:36,959
Speaker 1: man girl. California's about popping city, and you give you're

2489
02:22:36,959 --> 02:22:40,840
Speaker 1: a young man Chicago, you spend it? How much when

2490
02:22:40,879 --> 02:22:42,959
Speaker 1: you're going to throuve popping bottles with all your friends

2491
02:22:43,040 --> 02:22:44,959
Speaker 1: and a bottle service and all, how much you spending

2492
02:22:45,760 --> 02:22:49,800
Speaker 1: at least a thousand and five thousand a night messing

2493
02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:51,840
Speaker 1: around with that with some of the balls even spend

2494
02:22:51,920 --> 02:22:54,320
Speaker 1: more than Yeah, yeah, I've seen some tid think about

2495
02:22:54,360 --> 02:22:56,880
Speaker 1: it and didn't even your friends and all that stuff. Man,

2496
02:22:56,959 --> 02:22:59,840
Speaker 1: money don't that. So this is what I realized. My

2497
02:23:00,160 --> 02:23:02,560
Speaker 1: money I got to pay back to Pete. Other people

2498
02:23:02,680 --> 02:23:06,000
Speaker 1: money they have they don't have to pick back, and

2499
02:23:07,120 --> 02:23:09,480
Speaker 1: to figure out how to get it back from everybody. See,

2500
02:23:09,520 --> 02:23:12,360
Speaker 1: this is why I think Pete needs a real conversation

2501
02:23:12,480 --> 02:23:15,520
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day too, you ask

2502
02:23:15,640 --> 02:23:18,000
Speaker 1: yourself like, bro, are you are you? Are you okay?

2503
02:23:19,200 --> 02:23:22,280
Speaker 1: Like are you paranore? Are you damaged? Are you hurt?

2504
02:23:23,800 --> 02:23:27,600
Speaker 1: Had you? Have you recovered? Are you dealing with financial trumble?

2505
02:23:27,959 --> 02:23:30,000
Speaker 1: Because you've been through some things a lot of niggas

2506
02:23:30,040 --> 02:23:32,800
Speaker 1: couldn't have recovered from. Are you all right, my nigga?

2507
02:23:34,560 --> 02:23:36,440
Speaker 1: It's I hate to say I ain't to own them.

2508
02:23:36,720 --> 02:23:38,760
Speaker 1: It's I hate to say I fucked. I might have

2509
02:23:38,840 --> 02:23:41,200
Speaker 1: fucked a couple of bags up right, It's cool. But

2510
02:23:41,640 --> 02:23:46,720
Speaker 1: are you are? I though, because I'd be noticing the

2511
02:23:46,800 --> 02:23:49,880
Speaker 1: glass is that. It's like, it's you good, homy? Is

2512
02:23:49,920 --> 02:23:53,600
Speaker 1: you straight? Because man, Pete been through some shit with

2513
02:23:53,720 --> 02:23:57,560
Speaker 1: that money man. They tried to break them a few times.

2514
02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:01,440
Speaker 1: They whooped. They whooped him with information. He snuck through

2515
02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:04,360
Speaker 1: with that deal. They had to kill that deal. Well

2516
02:24:04,360 --> 02:24:06,760
Speaker 1: they nigga had an eighty five fifteen. He was from

2517
02:24:06,800 --> 02:24:10,760
Speaker 1: the Chasty record labels down. You know what I mean,

2518
02:24:11,120 --> 02:24:14,600
Speaker 1: whooping with some information event Listen, we're gonna make sure

2519
02:24:14,760 --> 02:24:18,240
Speaker 1: man he cleaned clear. Back then, a black dude with

2520
02:24:18,320 --> 02:24:23,200
Speaker 1: two fifty three hundred or black rapping nigga seether be

2521
02:24:23,440 --> 02:24:25,800
Speaker 1: in that ship. Don't move down now being that on

2522
02:24:25,959 --> 02:24:28,560
Speaker 1: mean what it meant back then. Two hundred and fifty

2523
02:24:28,600 --> 02:24:32,080
Speaker 1: million was powerful back then. If you was a billion,

2524
02:24:32,160 --> 02:24:34,800
Speaker 1: that back then that meant something. Now saying you're a billion,

2525
02:24:34,840 --> 02:24:38,280
Speaker 1: there it hit, but it don't. It's it's something moan it.

2526
02:24:38,400 --> 02:24:41,600
Speaker 1: It's like they don't something doesn't happen with the term

2527
02:24:41,800 --> 02:24:44,920
Speaker 1: something doesn't happen because they don't allow some of us

2528
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:47,360
Speaker 1: in there. So once they let us get in the club,

2529
02:24:47,440 --> 02:24:51,640
Speaker 1: they abandoned the club some kind of high because they

2530
02:24:51,760 --> 02:24:57,280
Speaker 1: want to keep the illusion of separation or not separation,

2531
02:24:57,440 --> 02:25:02,800
Speaker 1: but u they want to keep some level of classicism.

2532
02:25:03,720 --> 02:25:06,360
Speaker 1: They don't want us to believe it. Oh yeah we yeah, yeah,

2533
02:25:06,360 --> 02:25:09,120
Speaker 1: we get in the same paper they're getting. You know,

2534
02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:11,280
Speaker 1: you him talk about that, and it's like, I think

2535
02:25:11,360 --> 02:25:14,600
Speaker 1: he's been damaged, bro, I think he hurt. It's like

2536
02:25:14,720 --> 02:25:17,119
Speaker 1: y'all seeing him folk come and take all that money

2537
02:25:17,200 --> 02:25:21,080
Speaker 1: from me, and y'all still ain't hipping me hustle. It's

2538
02:25:21,080 --> 02:25:23,560
Speaker 1: almost like that's how we feel. I'm not sure what

2539
02:25:23,720 --> 02:25:26,640
Speaker 1: a place they blame, but I can feel something coming

2540
02:25:26,680 --> 02:25:31,080
Speaker 1: off from them. Well money, okay, oh you know he's sold.

2541
02:25:31,760 --> 02:25:37,520
Speaker 1: Oh ten million reppers. How I don't know. I'm saying

2542
02:25:37,600 --> 02:25:40,560
Speaker 1: that's what. That's what my family said, my family saying that.

2543
02:25:40,800 --> 02:25:44,760
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is y'all google it. No, it's impossible.

2544
02:25:45,520 --> 02:25:49,080
Speaker 1: I know sold Tim million rappers. Hey, that's what. He

2545
02:25:49,160 --> 02:25:51,160
Speaker 1: don't even have that. So even if he sold ten

2546
02:25:51,200 --> 02:25:55,960
Speaker 1: million records like Goba will be made, he's sold Timer.

2547
02:25:57,600 --> 02:26:05,800
Speaker 1: Google it, damn. So here's my response to that. Right,

2548
02:26:06,000 --> 02:26:10,320
Speaker 1: there's different deals. Right if you would think that, all right,

2549
02:26:10,400 --> 02:26:14,320
Speaker 1: at this time, you had this sweet eighty five fifteen deal.

2550
02:26:15,200 --> 02:26:17,480
Speaker 1: So if you had the eighty five fifteen deal and

2551
02:26:17,600 --> 02:26:19,480
Speaker 1: I sound with you and we do ten million, I

2552
02:26:19,480 --> 02:26:22,720
Speaker 1: imagine that to look different than Bow while doing to

2553
02:26:23,160 --> 02:26:27,360
Speaker 1: ten million, who's signed to Snoop Dogg and j D

2554
02:26:27,800 --> 02:26:32,120
Speaker 1: and whatever major recollets, like five or six different hands

2555
02:26:32,160 --> 02:26:36,560
Speaker 1: in that right. So again, I think that does make

2556
02:26:36,640 --> 02:26:39,879
Speaker 1: sense what he says. But at the same time, deal

2557
02:26:40,000 --> 02:26:43,039
Speaker 1: structure is important in those conversations, and at that time

2558
02:26:43,200 --> 02:26:45,840
Speaker 1: Pe did have an amazing deal with the record label.

2559
02:26:48,560 --> 02:26:51,560
Speaker 1: It's stopt with the wrong people. It just come home

2560
02:26:52,080 --> 02:27:02,520
Speaker 1: and get that game silver? Right? How many? How many

2561
02:27:02,600 --> 02:27:05,720
Speaker 1: did Romo yourself? Don't want you to know how many.

2562
02:27:05,720 --> 02:27:09,960
Speaker 1: You think, man, I don't want to be No, you

2563
02:27:10,080 --> 02:27:15,039
Speaker 1: need to be real. That was promotional. Think why that's promotional.

2564
02:27:15,120 --> 02:27:16,880
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. I know y'all want to

2565
02:27:16,879 --> 02:27:20,400
Speaker 1: be in this game, but I also believe. And then

2566
02:27:20,440 --> 02:27:24,000
Speaker 1: we'll move past this is a little bit of me

2567
02:27:24,200 --> 02:27:28,040
Speaker 1: says that he took the rap hustle to each industry.

2568
02:27:29,000 --> 02:27:32,520
Speaker 1: And if you notice the people like Jay did he QC,

2569
02:27:33,320 --> 02:27:41,160
Speaker 1: you know, Dame dren Any fifty right, the approaching these

2570
02:27:41,240 --> 02:27:46,680
Speaker 1: industries is modified. What I think happened is he saw

2571
02:27:46,840 --> 02:27:49,520
Speaker 1: so much success in rap doing it that way that

2572
02:27:49,600 --> 02:27:52,400
Speaker 1: he took that template and said, run it in all

2573
02:27:52,440 --> 02:27:56,200
Speaker 1: these industries. And I'm not sure that the effects that

2574
02:27:56,360 --> 02:27:59,000
Speaker 1: he saw in rap he saw in those other industries.

2575
02:27:59,000 --> 02:28:01,200
Speaker 1: I remember Pe did, like he did all kinds of

2576
02:28:01,240 --> 02:28:04,199
Speaker 1: stuff that now we look back and say it's innovative,

2577
02:28:04,240 --> 02:28:09,400
Speaker 1: but in the time probably was expensive startup companies. You know,

2578
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:12,800
Speaker 1: he did sell phones and clothes and and I mean

2579
02:28:12,840 --> 02:28:15,240
Speaker 1: it was just random stuff he was doing back then,

2580
02:28:15,360 --> 02:28:18,160
Speaker 1: action figures and it was just like he was. He

2581
02:28:18,320 --> 02:28:21,160
Speaker 1: was trying things and that's the hustling. And but I

2582
02:28:21,280 --> 02:28:24,480
Speaker 1: think some of that may have cost him capital that

2583
02:28:24,760 --> 02:28:29,000
Speaker 1: if he could have held and made some more calculated decisions,

2584
02:28:29,440 --> 02:28:31,720
Speaker 1: things may have looked different. I don't know. I think

2585
02:28:32,280 --> 02:28:34,080
Speaker 1: also he was one of the first people to run

2586
02:28:34,160 --> 02:28:36,080
Speaker 1: into that kind of money out of the street, and

2587
02:28:36,200 --> 02:28:39,320
Speaker 1: we saw him. They whooped him with the information and

2588
02:28:39,400 --> 02:28:41,560
Speaker 1: he lost a lot of it in Texas. You know,

2589
02:28:41,720 --> 02:28:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm not sure, man. We'll look into this. You know,

2590
02:28:43,879 --> 02:28:46,520
Speaker 1: another episode of the FAI Growing podcasts in the world.

2591
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Speaker 1: I appreciate y'all, love of y'all. Make sure you're on

2592
02:28:48,800 --> 02:28:51,199
Speaker 1: patron for the Vibration biggest