WEBVTT - THIS! is Disclosure Day

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<v Speaker 1>The day is June eighteenth, Thursday, twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>This it is Disclosure Day. It was so this, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's disclosed. I really liked Disclosure Day, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>such a weird adaptation because they didn't talk about trans

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<v Speaker 2>people at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, at the end when the alien comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and then she pulls up her skin and it's candid.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, so that was supposed to be like that was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like a metaphor. It went a little over

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<v Speaker 2>my head.

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<v Speaker 1>She was wearing a lot of makeup. She's got some

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<v Speaker 1>new work done. I don't know if you recognized her.

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<v Speaker 2>I did think her head looked kind of big, but

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of her was skinny. She's clearly on ozembic

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<v Speaker 2>skinny rose.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite part of Disclosure Day is when they.

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<v Speaker 2>Said this is Disclosure Day.

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<v Speaker 1>It's disclosure Day.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite part of Disclosure.

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<v Speaker 1>Day never to start.

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<v Speaker 2>My favorite part of Disclosure Day was when the Cardinal

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<v Speaker 2>Cardinal the Casey Musgrave song, when the Cardinal flew into

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<v Speaker 2>the room and Emily Blunt hit the ton k and

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<v Speaker 2>hereditary boom new I'm right right now, I'm I can

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<v Speaker 2>I'm mewing, and I can also read all your thoughts

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<v Speaker 2>and I know that your transsexual. Rose.

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<v Speaker 1>What am I thinking right now?

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<v Speaker 2>You're thinking it's actually kind of easy that you want

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<v Speaker 2>to suck off Josh O'Connor. No, that was so close though,

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<v Speaker 2>I was you were thinking people should see stop that train.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, we're getting ahead of ourselves. Okay, a

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<v Speaker 1>little preview of what we're about to talk about in

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<v Speaker 1>this episode. But before we do, Yes, we did miss

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<v Speaker 1>our episode drop last week due to unforeseen tragedy circumstances,

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<v Speaker 1>unforeseeable circumstances. Will chat briefly about it because Rose wants to,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, we'll carry on with the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the episode. Rose, what we were down bad last week?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So my grandma passed away last Monday. She had

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<v Speaker 2>been in the hospital for a little bit and passed

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<v Speaker 2>away very suddenly last Monday. It's weird to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, when I tell when I have it's

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<v Speaker 2>only been a little over a week, and when I've

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<v Speaker 2>told people, oh, yeah, my grandma just passed away, I

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<v Speaker 2>think people don't really know how serious it is because

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<v Speaker 2>grandmothers are very different figures in a lot of people's lives.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of my friends, grandmothers are these

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<v Speaker 2>sort of like remote figures who are mostly you know,

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<v Speaker 2>features in their childhood and like they have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of love for them. But my grandma was a really

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<v Speaker 2>huge part of my life for which I will forever

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<v Speaker 2>be grateful. You know, she was really young when I

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<v Speaker 2>was born. She was only forty nine when I was born.

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<v Speaker 2>I had really young, kind of vital grandparents my whole life,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's only in the past couple of years that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, she really kind of felt like the grandmother

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<v Speaker 2>that everyone expects you to be talking about. And I

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<v Speaker 2>am having a really tough time. I'm saying that now

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<v Speaker 2>because Friend already knows it, and I would like our

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<v Speaker 2>listeners to know because I care about all of you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know some of you care about us, and

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<v Speaker 2>also because I want I want the world to know

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<v Speaker 2>my grandma. She was really She was a really amazing woman.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think anyone who has read my novel Best

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<v Speaker 2>Woman knows how important family is to me. In a

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<v Speaker 2>very complicated way, my grandma was, you know, inspired one

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<v Speaker 2>of the characters in Best Woman. I thanked her in

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<v Speaker 2>the acknowledgments. My grandma just loved me and her children

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<v Speaker 2>and all her grandchildren a lot. She was really amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>When I came out as trans, I actually cut. I

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<v Speaker 2>gave the eulogy at her funeral, and I had a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of it where I spoke about her reaction

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<v Speaker 2>to my transition, and I didn't end up actually saying

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<v Speaker 2>it at the funeral, just because it felt like my

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<v Speaker 2>place was more to be the representative of all of

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<v Speaker 2>her grandchildren. So I just want to say here. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I told my grandma was trans ten over ten

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, she told me she had known since I

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<v Speaker 2>was a child, and even though she you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the first couple of years, sometimes got a name, names

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<v Speaker 2>or pronouns wrong, like I always knew that it was

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<v Speaker 2>just it was a mistake. It was never ill intentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>and after a certain point it stopped happening. And my

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<v Speaker 2>grandma was incredibly supportive of me. When I did my

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<v Speaker 2>book tour and I did a stop in my hometown

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<v Speaker 2>last year, she was sitting in the front row. She

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<v Speaker 2>was my biggest cheerleader. She was also really glamorous and fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say she was a style.

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<v Speaker 2>She was a style of icon. I think she and

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<v Speaker 2>I look a lot of like my sister, my.

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<v Speaker 1>Sisters, my mom exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>This looks so much like her. I'm even getting my

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<v Speaker 2>hair colored this week to like look a little more

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<v Speaker 2>like her, just because I really want to keep her alive.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, the thing is, I have been so

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<v Speaker 2>worried about forgetting things about her, and I think what

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<v Speaker 2>I've realized and what I kind of said in my

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<v Speaker 2>eulogy and have really been saying to my siblings and

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<v Speaker 2>cousins and my mom, who is really going through it

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<v Speaker 2>having lost her mom, is that I could never forget

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<v Speaker 2>anything about my grandma because there's all these, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>indelible parts of me that come directly from her. She

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<v Speaker 2>was this unwavering pillar of support in our family. She

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<v Speaker 2>was extremely passionate and creative. She was a really amazing woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Her name was Harriet Weisman. She was my grandma for

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<v Speaker 2>almost thirty eight years, and that was not long enough.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will miss her every day. So thank you

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<v Speaker 2>all for I don't know, listening to that waiting around,

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<v Speaker 2>being around. Thank you for uh dealing with our absence

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<v Speaker 2>last week. And I guess that, I guess dealing with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I might be a little less funny than usual. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still kind of adjusting to this new reality. Grief

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<v Speaker 2>is really weird. Uh, this is the closest death to

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<v Speaker 2>me I've ever experienced in my life. So it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be an adjustment period. But doing this show, I

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<v Speaker 2>think will hopefully be healing and at least talking about

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<v Speaker 2>stupid stuff like Disclosure Day. We'll keep my mind off

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<v Speaker 2>things for an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was just about to say, baby, I organized

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<v Speaker 1>a Disclosure Day viewing with a one Rose DOMI and

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<v Speaker 1>a group of our friends last night to distract you.

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<v Speaker 1>And boy were we distracted, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, you know, like the original The original plan was

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to see Stop That Train again. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I realized, like, oh, I actually, like I can't

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<v Speaker 2>watch a movie that I've already seen and I need

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<v Speaker 2>to be totally swept up in something and enthralled. And honey,

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<v Speaker 2>I was enthralled during Disclosure Day. It was, let me say,

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<v Speaker 2>a dumb movie. But that is a feature and not

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<v Speaker 2>a bug in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh yeah, it was very very stupid if you

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<v Speaker 1>were Okay, So if you're not aware of this film

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<v Speaker 1>Disclosure Today.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a film by Steven Spielberg and it is

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<v Speaker 2>very kind of classic Spielberg. You know, he loves an

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<v Speaker 2>alien movie. He loves like psychic phenomena, and this this

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<v Speaker 2>was really giving. I think out of all of his films,

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<v Speaker 2>the one it felt felt the most similar to was

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<v Speaker 2>Artificial Intelligence. But you know, the logline is that Josh

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<v Speaker 2>O'Connor is playing this whistleblower from a private company that

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<v Speaker 2>has been that has been suppressing information about aliens UH

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<v Speaker 2>and their contact with humanity for decades he uh. Simultaneously,

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<v Speaker 2>Emily Blunt is a news anchor who is having these

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<v Speaker 2>weird experiences and which mostly involve mewing directly into the

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<v Speaker 2>camera and at mewing at various ci animals. And they

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to share the truth about aliens with the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and Evil Colin Firth is trying.

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<v Speaker 1>To stop them, right, Evil Colin Firth actually kind of

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<v Speaker 1>slays Coleman Domingo plays the guy on the phone, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy in the laptop kind of trope. He's the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that is like remotely kind of managing the situation. And

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<v Speaker 1>I will say they found in a secret agent film.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it was kind of like involving like an

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<v Speaker 1>FBI agent usually has like a guy on the yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a guy that's the laptop, a guy in

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<v Speaker 1>the control center that was Coleman. And I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>making a really good point and something that I actually

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<v Speaker 1>liked about the film, but I think might be what's

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<v Speaker 1>not going over so well with audiences is this is

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<v Speaker 1>not so much like a huge explosiony action movie. It

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<v Speaker 1>kind of plays more like a spy thriller in a way, because, like,

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<v Speaker 1>weirdly enough, the objective of these people is that they

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<v Speaker 1>have to get to a local news station in Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City so that they can play all of this alien

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<v Speaker 1>footage live on TV, because that's the only way they

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<v Speaker 1>can prove to the world the aliens are real. A

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous premise for a film in twenty twenty six, as

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<v Speaker 1>if anyone would not see footage of, you know, proving

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<v Speaker 1>literally craving the aliens were real and wouldn't either scroll

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<v Speaker 1>past it think it was a deep fake, or be like, okay, whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>who got kicked off All Stars last week?

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<v Speaker 2>You know it's that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally the tea, That's okay. So, like, if we're starting

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<v Speaker 1>with the thing that to me, the fatal flaw of

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<v Speaker 1>the film is that all all of the suspended tension

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<v Speaker 1>or like the overhalling. The majority of the stakes of

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<v Speaker 1>the film rely on this like truth of the movie

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't think is true to real life, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that if humans were shown substantiated and unequivocal evidence

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<v Speaker 1>that aliens exist, everyone would stop what they're doing and be.

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<v Speaker 2>Moved, and like everyone would like no one would can

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<v Speaker 2>even even position it against some vague geopolitical conflict, Like

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<v Speaker 2>at some point in the movie, they're like talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how their World War three is about to start. People

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<v Speaker 2>are in gas stations, like stocking up on you know,

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<v Speaker 2>bottled water and toilet paper, and so I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>movie is trying to pause it like this information would

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<v Speaker 2>be so literally earth shaking that that wars would end

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<v Speaker 2>because we would realize that the real important thing was aliens.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to tell you, as someone who has

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<v Speaker 2>been living on Earth these past couple of years, that

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<v Speaker 2>has we have at various points gotten like proof about

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<v Speaker 2>aliens and weird shit, and no one gives a fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Spielberg literally like he loves aliens so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell he cares a lot about it because

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<v Speaker 1>he's supplanting like his kind of like kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>reverence for extraterrestrial life and the possibility of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of he's like like laying it over what

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<v Speaker 1>he he's kind of like just placing it onto the

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<v Speaker 1>general population. That's just not how the general population feels.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if the Disclosure Day is like literally

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<v Speaker 1>working with the Pentagon right now now, but like the

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<v Speaker 1>last I think three to five days, like the Pentagon

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<v Speaker 1>has released more videos and images of like UFO sightings.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like the third batch of like documents

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<v Speaker 1>images and no one gives up. No one fucking cares.

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<v Speaker 1>Pop crave is literally tweeted.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw it the other day.

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<v Speaker 1>A photo of Menda's back, Yes, like literally a photo

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<v Speaker 1>Shawn Menda's back will like get more retweets than like

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<v Speaker 1>this UFO, like this literal Pentagon UFO sighting like no

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<v Speaker 1>one fucking I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Think because Steven Spielberg loves to go heavy on a theme,

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<v Speaker 2>and this movie is chalk full of themes. It's almost

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<v Speaker 2>more themes than story. Like none of the characters are

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<v Speaker 2>really real, none of them have like any sense their

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<v Speaker 2>interiority and and let me and they're like their vehicles.

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed the movie. I give it four stars

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<v Speaker 2>on Letterbox. It was so really enjoy and I was

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<v Speaker 2>I did not think about a single thing while we

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<v Speaker 2>were watching it. But I think what Spielberg is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to say, and like he has the characters more or

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<v Speaker 2>less say it in a couple different ways, is that

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<v Speaker 2>like truth is the most important thing in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually think this movie is more a commentary

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<v Speaker 2>on like the the age of you know, misinformation and

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<v Speaker 2>fake news than like literally about aliens. And I also

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<v Speaker 2>think it's about empathy. There's there's kind of a really

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<v Speaker 2>poignant moment, like one of the better written things, one

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<v Speaker 2>of the better written kind of monologues in the film,

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<v Speaker 2>where one of the characters talks about how truth is important,

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<v Speaker 2>like that everyone has a right to know everything and

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<v Speaker 2>and oh no, no, sorry, I was talking about empathy.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>What they were saying is that that that the specific

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<v Speaker 2>aliens in this film, which I did like there like

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<v Speaker 2>very classic alien They look like what everything is like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the the nothing like the first the first

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<v Speaker 2>clip we see of the aliens is from the Roswell Crash.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically where this movie is saying, like in the

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<v Speaker 2>world of this movie, like every alien sighting has been real.

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<v Speaker 2>But and then it talks about Nixon can see aliens,

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<v Speaker 2>which is but the point I liked that they made

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<v Speaker 2>was that the aliens because Emily Blunt is gifted this,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like telepathic ability, and Coleman Domingo delivers this

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<v Speaker 2>speech which he says, like to the aliens, they see

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<v Speaker 2>us having evolved past empathy when they actually view empathy

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<v Speaker 2>as the the ultimate evolutionary peak. And that I thought

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<v Speaker 2>was very beautiful and is is such is such a

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<v Speaker 2>Spielberg idea, like he's so ooey gooey and cheesy. And

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<v Speaker 2>there were moments in the film that that really like

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<v Speaker 2>sung to me like that, like there was even there's

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<v Speaker 2>a there's a part where Emily Blunt finally links up

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<v Speaker 2>with Coleman Domingo's character, and the way her power works

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<v Speaker 2>is that when she looks at someone, she knows everything

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<v Speaker 2>about them, and he asks her why she won't look

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<v Speaker 2>at him, and she says, because you know everything. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I look at you all know everything and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to know everything. And I thought that was

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<v Speaker 2>such good writing. And then there like there are moments

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<v Speaker 2>like that, and then there are really dumb, stupid moments

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<v Speaker 2>and like bad piece of dialogue and all this shit

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<v Speaker 2>about people actually caring about aliens that they like no

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<v Speaker 2>one ever would have cared about. So it's dumb. But

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<v Speaker 2>like I again, I think that's a feature. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that's why I liked it. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I something that I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>when I was watching the film. I just couldn't stop

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about, just like us, what it means to what

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<v Speaker 1>a Spielberg movie is, and and I forgot how it

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<v Speaker 1>feels to watch one. The last Spielberg movie I watch

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<v Speaker 1>was Westside Story, which I actually really loved. But before that,

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<v Speaker 1>it had been like ten years, maybe more, since I'd

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<v Speaker 1>seen a film like probably like Tintin was. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think is your favorite Spielberg Probably Hook? But I

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<v Speaker 1>really really love Indiana Jones and The Temple of Doom.

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<v Speaker 1>I obviously really love Jurassic Park.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a Minority report girl.

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<v Speaker 1>I love No.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind. I

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<v Speaker 2>would really like to. I know a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>discussion about this movie is like people being like Steven

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<v Speaker 2>Spielberg has already made a better version of this movie,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is Close Encounters of the Third Kind. So

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to revisit it. I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 2>think this film has caused a lot of hand ringing

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<v Speaker 2>online by people who have because I think people are

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<v Speaker 2>seeing that the box office numbers are somewhat disappointing and

0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:54.520
<v Speaker 2>they're like, it's crazy that even Steven Spielberg can open

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<v Speaker 2>a movie and like he's lost the sauce. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily think he's lost the sauce. I actually think this movie,

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<v Speaker 2>had it come out in like ninety four, would be

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<v Speaker 2>a classic. But we this movie has not.

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<v Speaker 1>We're desensitized to the things that Spielberg would like us

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<v Speaker 1>to not be disensitized.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and the world has moved on, but he hasn't.

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<v Speaker 2>And this movie does feel very dated.

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<v Speaker 1>It does, but that but here's the okay, so here

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<v Speaker 1>to to my back to the point of like what

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<v Speaker 1>makes us Spielberg film? This is part of like what

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about. I kept watching the film and

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<v Speaker 1>having like a kind of immediate or gut reaction to

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<v Speaker 1>certain things and be like, oh, that's so cheesy. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's so corny. Oh like we've this is like so uninventive,

0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Like we it's like all these different kind of like

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<v Speaker 1>tropes about aliens, images of.

0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Tropes about characters like Colemon Domingo is a textbook magical

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<v Speaker 2>Negro character in this film.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of yeah, like things like that. It's like very

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<v Speaker 1>like not, it's very just like yeah, and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then and then I was kind of like, well, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that makes you feel a little nostalgic for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the peak of Spielberg's career. Actually, I mean he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really have a peak, but like maybe like no he died,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like when he was making Any seventy and

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<v Speaker 1>the other alien movies, and like, yeah, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, like he I wouldn't say. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>peak is the right term. I think it's kind of like, ye.

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<v Speaker 2>The golden age of Spielberg, Yes, when I mean he

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<v Speaker 2>kind of invented the idea of a summer blockbuster. He

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<v Speaker 2>directed Jaws, which kind of was the first summer blockbuster,

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<v Speaker 2>and he has kept creating that. I just think as

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<v Speaker 2>a culture, we've kind of moved beyond those movies.

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<v Speaker 1>And like certain tricks he uses cinematically for suspended attention,

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<v Speaker 1>certain shots that zoom in on people's faces or that

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<v Speaker 1>have a certain kind of genoesequa of like like yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>just like him as a master's suspend attention. They're all

0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.640
<v Speaker 1>things that all the their filmmaker's reference now and repeat,

0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:05.760
<v Speaker 1>and so now when he does it, it's like it feels.

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<v Speaker 2>It feels tired dated when he was the one who

0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:08.560
<v Speaker 2>invented it, but it's not.

0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:10.520
<v Speaker 1>He invented it. He invented it, and so like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, there there was something I think it's funny,

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<v Speaker 1>we we. I really was comforted by this film. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if I'm gonna watch it again, no, but

0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I was so comforted.

0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 2>I was. There were some really thrilling sequences. There's a

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<v Speaker 2>there's a there's a chequence, yeah on with a with

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<v Speaker 2>a train stop that train promo that was really amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think. I actually think the biggest problem with

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<v Speaker 2>this film is the writing. The film was written by

0:20:41.480 --> 0:20:45.480
<v Speaker 2>David Cope, who looking at his credits, he's written a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of really shitty movies. It's a lot of like

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<v Speaker 2>bad sequels and prequels and like he wrote Jurassic World,

0:20:54.440 --> 0:21:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Rebirth and oh like Secret Window, that like weird depth movie.

0:21:01.440 --> 0:21:04.080
<v Speaker 2>He just like does not have very good credits. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not which one was Rebirth. Rebirth was the most

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<v Speaker 2>recent one with Scarlett Johansson and Jonathan Bailey and his

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<v Speaker 2>slutty little glasses.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I can't remember if I've seen the Julianne Moore

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<v Speaker 1>Jurassic Parks.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the third one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I need to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, have you disclosed?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Today it's Disclosure Day, and you know what, one day

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<v Speaker 2>we will get an accurate adaptation of the documentary Disclosure

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<v Speaker 2>about trans People Jen Richards.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, girl in the car Home, Laurel and I

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<v Speaker 1>could not stop saying it. We were like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>Disclosure Day, Like it's so.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my God. Sitting next to Laurel during that movie

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<v Speaker 2>was such a game from God because she really kept

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<v Speaker 2>me entertained the whole time. It was so weird how

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<v Speaker 2>we were cackling through the whole film and the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the audience was dead silent. The first time Emily

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<v Speaker 2>Blunt mewed, we were screaming, and the theater was and

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<v Speaker 2>the theater around us was like a ghost town.

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<v Speaker 1>We did have most of the time, uh laughter domino effects.

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<v Speaker 1>We would laugh first and then the rest of the

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<v Speaker 1>theater would laugh because we were laughing as particularly, there

0:22:22.160 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 1>was one moment I camera what it was. It was

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<v Speaker 1>probably just another crazy shot of Emily Blunt with perfect makeup,

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<v Speaker 1>perfect lash lashes, face in the shape of.

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<v Speaker 2>An incredibly distracting Veneers.

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<v Speaker 1>Mewing the housetown mutes, mewing the house down mutes yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and Laurel just goes like that and then the whole

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<v Speaker 1>theater erups in laughter. It was so it was so

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<v Speaker 1>weird to not be on the same vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know what, I just leaned into it. I

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<v Speaker 2>was the person who led the applause when they said

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<v Speaker 2>in the film, this is disclosed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's disclosure Day.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that was worth the price of the ticket, honey,

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<v Speaker 2>although I didn't pay for the ticket. Do I owe

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<v Speaker 2>you for the ticket?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't even asked people Venmo yet all anyways, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is disclosure day, and today I'm disclosing to you

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<v Speaker 1>Rose Dom you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm transjob me too.

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<v Speaker 1>What's the whole time?

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<v Speaker 2>The whole time?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So, because we touched on it, I think maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll just like quickly talk about Stop that Train. We

0:23:35.000 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>were going to see Stop that Train a second time.

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<v Speaker 1>Now we're like, I'm not supporting that film, but an

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<v Speaker 1>actual to day I still really do want to see

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<v Speaker 1>it a second time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not wanted a second time for like neural reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>It's mostly just because once was enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we I The one of the number one reasons

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to go is because I was like, I

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:59.160
<v Speaker 1>want to buy tickets to support are the film maker. Yeahaul, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to put to queer art.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah no, I was like I want this. I

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>want Stop That Train truly genuinely, actually I want Stop

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:08.280
<v Speaker 1>That Training to be a box office success. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, I want to buy tickets, but instead we supported,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, unsung independent filmmaker Steven Spielberg, which I'm also

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<v Speaker 1>proud to be a part of that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're basically his patrons.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but virgins if you're not aware. Okay, we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it last time. There was an AI controversy surrounding

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<v Speaker 1>the immediate aftermath of the premiere of Stop That Train.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Shankman. Basically, people saw the movie online They're like,

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like really shitty AI. It's really just city,

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:44.399
<v Speaker 1>And then Rose and I were kind of talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>We were like, no, it's like maybe just really shitty CG.

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<v Speaker 1>And like people are assuming that it's AI because it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like something that the movie would do. It seems

0:24:55.840 --> 0:24:58.040
<v Speaker 1>like something Rude Paul would do. It seems like the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of movie that would use AI. And Adam Shankman

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<v Speaker 1>made a statement at that time saying there is a

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<v Speaker 1>sum total of zero shots zero conceived by AI in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. And Rose did clock that the word conceived

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:18.479
<v Speaker 1>is maybe a little ishy. What does that mean? Sounds

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 1>like a little you know, you're talking around something. And

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I was kind of like, no, what I mean, Maybe

0:25:23.960 --> 0:25:26.119
<v Speaker 1>he's on the right side of her story. Lo and

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<v Speaker 1>behold Extra Magazine with the scoop in an interview with

0:25:29.720 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 1>Extra Magazine. Not that Extra, but there's like a queer

0:25:34.359 --> 0:25:35.480
<v Speaker 1>magazine called Extra.

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<v Speaker 2>They interviewed me.

0:25:37.960 --> 0:25:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they interviewed you. They also interviewed Adam Shankman recently

0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>and asked him about the AI again and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, no, basic thing is no, I don't know

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.879
<v Speaker 2>if you saw this. That interview was done before he

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 2>made the no AI statement. No, Oh, I didn't read.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see that. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>So they switched like as Nicki Minaj said, so in.

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<v Speaker 1>The in diametric opposition to what he had previous to

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<v Speaker 1>what he had said in the public statement, he says

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<v Speaker 1>to Extra Magazine, some of the windows were AI. There

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<v Speaker 1>was only one AI shot or two AI shots of

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<v Speaker 1>the train. The rest are CG. Most of the CG

0:26:23.800 --> 0:26:26.720
<v Speaker 1>is the train, then out the windows is mostly AI,

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<v Speaker 1>but the Florida station, that's all that CG and different

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>license imagery. Okay, girl, if you used AI, why would

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:44.200
<v Speaker 1>anyone ever do? Two windows right? And the knives AI?

0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:49.920
<v Speaker 2>You're like, we used this, you know, lazy cost cutting measure,

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<v Speaker 2>but we only used it twice.

0:26:51.680 --> 0:26:55.840
<v Speaker 1>We only used it twice. Girl, There's no way you

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<v Speaker 1>only used it twice.

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<v Speaker 2>Wasn't even on set. They just a eyed her in

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<v Speaker 2>use a you know, like every season of that Grace.

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<v Speaker 1>Well now home girl, husband caught lying and so there's

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<v Speaker 1>no world where and we'll believe anything he says.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever again, Ever, unless he says they're making a sequel

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<v Speaker 2>to Hairspray, I would believe that.

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<v Speaker 1>And mind you. In his original in the public in

0:27:16.960 --> 0:27:19.359
<v Speaker 1>the public stamen that first reached the public, he was like,

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:22.760
<v Speaker 1>there were hundreds of computer generated to get CG artists

0:27:23.000 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>working on this film, and I was like, look, I

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:29.680
<v Speaker 1>believe that it's shitty CGI, Like I believe that there

0:27:29.760 --> 0:27:35.080
<v Speaker 1>is shitty CGI in this movie, but like, I just

0:27:35.080 --> 0:27:38.680
<v Speaker 1>don't under I'm like, girl, clearly you used AI probably

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>a lot.

0:27:39.119 --> 0:27:41.880
<v Speaker 2>But I think and this could be wrong, but from

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:45.280
<v Speaker 2>what I read when you look at the actual credits

0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>of the film, there were only I think one or

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 2>two VFX artists listed on the film, which, if and

0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 2>there were a lot more people with sort of like

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 2>ill defined visual jobs, that seems like maybe they were

0:28:02.640 --> 0:28:06.520
<v Speaker 2>just a I prompters literally, oh girl.

0:28:06.920 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 1>Allegedly like allegedly, allegedly allegilated allegations.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very disappointing just because you're right, I do think

0:28:16.480 --> 0:28:23.800
<v Speaker 2>this is this was a film peop we especially were

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:30.120
<v Speaker 2>very excited to rally behind, and I uh, it's it's

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 2>the lying and the the the mixed messages. I think

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 2>if he had said something along the lines of like, yeah,

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:38.880
<v Speaker 2>we use some AI, I don't feel great about it.

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 2>But this was a really low budget film and it

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.360
<v Speaker 2>was the only way we could get it made, I

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 2>maybe would have been a little more forgiving. But the

0:28:47.640 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 2>lying in the.

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Lying for me says anyways, tell it to me straight,

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:54.400
<v Speaker 1>tell it to me.

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Get that train. Was there a train? Was there even

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.280
<v Speaker 2>a train. Was there even a train to stop? So

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:06.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, make your own decision about you know, whether

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 2>or not you're going to see stop that train. I

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:09.920
<v Speaker 2>still think it's a good time.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:12.560
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good I think there's I think

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:13.520
<v Speaker 1>we should still see it.

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to give some recommendations to both of you

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 2>and the listeners. Yes, well, first I want to assign

0:29:22.760 --> 0:29:26.640
<v Speaker 2>some homework. I'm really loving the new Olivia Rodrigo album.

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>You said you seem pretty sad for a girl so

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 2>in love. I Fran has not listened to it in

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.040
<v Speaker 2>full yet, so we're going to discuss next week. Everyone

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 2>listen at your leisure and we will talk about it.

0:29:40.280 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>But we both watched some new to us films this week.

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>The one I want to talk about. So when I

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 2>was home, we were with my mom and my sisters.

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>The night after my grandma's funeral, we watched Moonstruck, which

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 2>was her favorite movie. Y'all know that we love Moonstruck

0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 2>on this podcast. And then and the next night we

0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:04.520
<v Speaker 2>watch Terms of Endearment, which I've never seen. It's a

0:30:04.600 --> 0:30:08.760
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty three film starring Sherley McClain and Deborah Winger.

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 2>It's sort of in a way kind of like proto

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:15.240
<v Speaker 2>Gilmore Girls. It's about this mother and daughter who are

0:30:15.560 --> 0:30:18.560
<v Speaker 2>like way too close and like all up in each

0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 2>other's lives and just kind of about their different romances

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 2>and lives and heartbreak and cancer. It's very much a

0:30:30.800 --> 0:30:37.959
<v Speaker 2>tear jerker, but it is an incredible film, super performances

0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:40.600
<v Speaker 2>from Sherley McLain, who won an Oscar for it. Jack

0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:43.960
<v Speaker 2>Nicholson won an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor. It won

0:30:44.040 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 2>Best Picture. It's really it is like sometimes kind of

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.360
<v Speaker 2>cheesy in that way that tearjerkers often are, but the

0:30:55.480 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 2>script is so good and like that's kind of where

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 2>I see the Gilmore Girl like more than anything. It's like, yes,

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 2>there's like the mother and daughter who were too close

0:31:04.600 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 2>of it all. But it has this really kind of

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:13.080
<v Speaker 2>like snappy, almost overwritten, like very like naturalistic but heightened dialogue.

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, like the characters talk like they're in real life,

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 2>but they also talk in this like very heightened movie way.

0:31:21.400 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 2>And it's a really it's a really good watch. If

0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:27.560
<v Speaker 2>you have seen it, chime in in the comments let

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:29.280
<v Speaker 2>us know what you think about it. Fran I think

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:32.400
<v Speaker 2>you will love it. Deborah Winger is like now one

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 2>of my summer style icons after watching this film. It

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:41.800
<v Speaker 2>also features a young hot Jeff Daniels who is extremely say.

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>Love young hot Jeff Daniels. I it looks like it

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>has the makeup of everything I would want in a movie,

0:31:48.960 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, I'm I'm down to watch it. It seems like, uh,

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>is it sad?

0:31:55.320 --> 0:32:00.880
<v Speaker 2>It's extremely sad, but it's also very funny and it's

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 2>giving kind of I've actually never seen this, but like

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>it's giving still Magnolia's you know, like warm, funny, female

0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:13.760
<v Speaker 2>centric movie that ends in a very sad way, but

0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 2>like it's still really touching and moving and like you

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 2>feel good after after watching it, even though it's very sad.

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>I am adding it to my list versions added to

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 1>your list. I the as Roh said at the beginning,

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 1>we both return. We we we have movies that are

0:32:37.240 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 1>new to us, meaning they're nostalgic. You should add them

0:32:40.480 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to your qu if you haven't watched them. I for

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:45.240
<v Speaker 1>the first time watch Uptown Girls Believe, which.

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Is Uptown Girls.

0:32:46.840 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 1>My god, what I've never seen Uptown Girls this, This

0:32:51.640 --> 0:32:54.440
<v Speaker 1>is why we started this, or least well, I know

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:59.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest films. I've ever seen sheets of

0:32:59.360 --> 0:32:59.920
<v Speaker 1>a jet shot.

0:33:00.040 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Ah, that is a fucking pop.

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>It's a banger. It should be on Spotify. Maybe I

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:10.440
<v Speaker 1>could get Spotify. I love this film. If you are

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>not familiar with the premise of the film Uptown Girls.

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 2>I would I would guarantee that ninety nine point nine

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.680
<v Speaker 2>percent of our audience I've seen Uptown Girls. Look.

0:33:20.200 --> 0:33:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the look this is like a virgin Maybe virgins

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 1>listen to this show. Okay, I mean I know virgins

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:30.600
<v Speaker 1>listen to the show in general. But yeah. The story

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>follows Molly Gunn. She is a NEPO baby. Essentially, she

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.040
<v Speaker 1>is the daughter of a famous rock musician who's passed away.

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.560
<v Speaker 1>She's living off the royalties of like her rock dynasty family.

0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 1>She is a quintessential New York girl slash socialite. Maybe

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the film opens with her birthday. She's going to a birthday,

0:33:52.440 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 1>her own birthday party at a club. She wears a

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:59.480
<v Speaker 1>fucking beautiful and iconic bloomern dress.

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Costumes such good early aughts vibes.

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, actually, if I've had a reaction to

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:14.439
<v Speaker 1>a dress like that in a long time, A such

0:34:14.440 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>a visceral envy and be like I want that dress

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:20.399
<v Speaker 1>more than anything in the world.

0:34:20.400 --> 0:34:22.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh see, I felt that way about the sort of

0:34:22.960 --> 0:34:27.439
<v Speaker 2>pink like White House Press secretary dress Emily Blunt Warren

0:34:27.480 --> 0:34:28.320
<v Speaker 2>disclosure to day.

0:34:29.120 --> 0:34:34.799
<v Speaker 1>That also looks so good. But wait, she does she

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>hear that?

0:34:35.640 --> 0:34:37.680
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't. I did not think it was cute.

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh I thought I thought it looked good. I was like,

0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>literally thought that you looked.

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 2>At she looked like she looked like she was a

0:34:44.960 --> 0:34:46.320
<v Speaker 2>real tur on selling sunset.

0:34:48.600 --> 0:34:49.839
<v Speaker 1>She did actually look like that.

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:51.959
<v Speaker 2>Rose.

0:34:52.200 --> 0:34:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Did you know that this the dress, the Bloomerine dress

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that Brittany Murphy wore is now owned by Ivy Getty

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Because I love I was like, where is that dress?

0:35:01.080 --> 0:35:01.879
<v Speaker 2>Now? That makes sense?

0:35:02.040 --> 0:35:03.800
<v Speaker 1>That tracks I'm pissed.

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 2>That dress to me is up there with like the

0:35:06.400 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 2>green dress that Jennifer Gardner wears and thteen going on thirty,

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Like it's an iconic early aughts pop culture movie dress.

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:17.799
<v Speaker 2>I thought you were gonna say the green Versaci dress,

0:35:17.840 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 2>that j Loog dress. We have to put it to rest.

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:26.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is the most famous dress. Well it's tough.

0:35:26.600 --> 0:35:28.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the most famous dress is the dress? Is

0:35:28.640 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 2>the dress? Dress is the dress?

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:31.479
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:33.720
<v Speaker 2>And also kind of the dress from Mother Mary.

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>Literally, well, okay, so there's this socialite lo and behold,

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:47.040
<v Speaker 1>it's discovered that the bookkeeper for her parents estate essentially

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 1>is a scammer, disappears, and all of a sudden she

0:35:51.880 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>is penniless. She's being evicted from her luxury town you know,

0:35:55.800 --> 0:36:00.960
<v Speaker 1>her luxury apartment in uptown Manhattan, and to make ends meet,

0:36:01.040 --> 0:36:04.920
<v Speaker 1>she takes a job as a nanny for a braddy

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 1>little eight year old or nine year old girl. I

0:36:08.400 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 1>think nine.

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.680
<v Speaker 2>Made impeccably by a young Fanning.

0:36:13.840 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 1>And this Dakota Fanning's character is like a type a

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>full grown adult in an eight year old's body, kind

0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:24.399
<v Speaker 1>of like I've had it kind of energy. And they

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.120
<v Speaker 1>are beautiful foils for each other because Brittany Murphy is

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>the kind of manic pixie, the quintessential manut pixie dream

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.360
<v Speaker 1>girl in almost every film she's ever been in, but

0:36:32.520 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 1>especially in this film.

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 2>I would call her a manic pixire dream girl. And

0:36:35.600 --> 0:36:39.360
<v Speaker 2>girl interrupted, Oh yeah, sure, okay, I mean she was

0:36:39.400 --> 0:36:40.200
<v Speaker 2>definitely manic.

0:36:41.120 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>She was definitely manic, and like she's you know, she's chaotic,

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 1>she's erratic, she's unpredictable and Dakota Fanning is like likes order,

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>likes cleanliness, predictability, is a germophobe, all these different things.

0:36:56.160 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 1>And to be honest, I had only put this film.

0:37:00.760 --> 0:37:04.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought this film was kind of a was kind

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:08.040
<v Speaker 1>of a in the rom com category, and it's like,

0:37:08.440 --> 0:37:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it is a little bit, but it's not.

0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a story about two women. It's definitely in the

0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>thirteen going on thirty category, maybe like Princess Bride kind

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:21.680
<v Speaker 1>of category in that it's like, actually more because the

0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.000
<v Speaker 1>actresses are so compelling, it is more about them than

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 1>it is about the romance. It's more about the singular

0:37:28.239 --> 0:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>person and their journey than it is about the romance.

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:32.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that makes sense. Does that make sense?

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the romance there is a romantic subplot in the film,

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 2>but the real romance is between Brittany Murphy and Dakota Fanning.

0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:43.719
<v Speaker 2>And I don't mean that in a pedophile way. I

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.360
<v Speaker 2>mean that in a you know, they like they need

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 2>each other and they form this you know, like sisterly

0:37:51.160 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 2>friend relationship that is their bond is so real, the realness.

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:01.879
<v Speaker 1>The real. But yeah, I think part of what I'm

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:04.600
<v Speaker 1>saying is like with this film, thirteen going on thirty

0:38:04.680 --> 0:38:06.600
<v Speaker 1>or Princess Bride or like films like it. It's like,

0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.439
<v Speaker 1>when we talk about these films, we don't say, oh,

0:38:11.800 --> 0:38:14.359
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful rom com. Oh the thing I remember about

0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.880
<v Speaker 1>the film is the romance. No, that's not what you remember.

0:38:17.040 --> 0:38:18.520
<v Speaker 1>You remember the story of a girl.

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like it's it would be called like you know,

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:25.600
<v Speaker 2>in the early two thousands, we called we would have

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.000
<v Speaker 2>called if this was a if Uptown Girls was a book,

0:38:28.040 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 2>we would have called it chick lit. You know, we

0:38:30.800 --> 0:38:33.399
<v Speaker 2>would have said, it's this category the story of a girl.

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 2>These are women's stories.

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:40.760
<v Speaker 1>These are women's stories, and you know stories are so

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:49.759
<v Speaker 1>are soul loved Uptown Girls. Okay, I'm wondering if there

0:38:50.000 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 1>is anything else to discuss.

0:38:53.600 --> 0:38:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I need to talk about the worst travel experience

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:03.759
<v Speaker 2>of my life. Oh, Delta, when I find you, so,

0:39:04.160 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Delta work, what you got to do with that? So,

0:39:06.719 --> 0:39:12.879
<v Speaker 2>as we know, I had last week was Roses very bad,

0:39:12.960 --> 0:39:18.000
<v Speaker 2>no good week, and I was already dreading, you know,

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:23.680
<v Speaker 2>leaving Florida, not being with my family anymore. And it

0:39:23.719 --> 0:39:25.719
<v Speaker 2>was made even worse by the fact that I had

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 2>to travel almost a full twenty four hours to get

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:34.480
<v Speaker 2>home because Delta was fucking playing in my face. My

0:39:34.680 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 2>flight Sunday night was delayed, diverted to Baltimore. I was

0:39:42.080 --> 0:39:45.000
<v Speaker 2>supposed to arrive home in New York at ten thirty

0:39:45.040 --> 0:39:48.359
<v Speaker 2>Sunday night, did not arrive home until the next night.

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 2>I had to check into an airport Holiday and Express

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:59.800
<v Speaker 2>in Baltimore at four am Monday morning. Then that day

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.320
<v Speaker 2>went back to the airport only to sit on the

0:40:02.400 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 2>runway for five hours because two planes had been diverted

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:11.719
<v Speaker 2>and were loading next at gates next to each other

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 2>in the airport, and they didn't tell any of us

0:40:14.239 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 2>which plane to get on. We just had to figure

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:21.560
<v Speaker 2>it out for ourselves. That it was. That is like,

0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:24.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, I've had I've had bad travel experiences, but

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:30.839
<v Speaker 2>this was legitimately the worst travel experience of my life.

0:40:30.960 --> 0:40:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I have never been more tired and exhausted. I felt

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:40.080
<v Speaker 2>so bad for the flight attendants who were not even

0:40:40.120 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 2>supposed to end up in New York that night. They

0:40:43.080 --> 0:40:45.239
<v Speaker 2>were supposed to go back from Florida. Many of them

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 2>it was their off day and they had to get

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 2>back on the plane with having no luggage. One of

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:54.279
<v Speaker 2>the flight attendants told me she hadn't even brushed her teeth.

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 2>I offered her my toothbrush. She was like, oh, that's gross.

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<v Speaker 2>I did make a friend with one of the girls

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<v Speaker 2>in my flight, and she gave me a xanax, So

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<v Speaker 2>shout out to that girl. Her name was Lily. We

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<v Speaker 2>bonded over having our names, although there was a weird

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 2>moment where we were like telling each other like about ourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, where do you live? She was

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<v Speaker 2>telling me she lived at Town. I was like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in Brooklyn. I'm in Clinton Hill, sort of your bedstide.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was like, oh, that's not bad. And I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, well, I wasn't presenting it as something bad,

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<v Speaker 2>like I like living in Brooklyn.

0:41:25.480 --> 0:41:28.359
<v Speaker 1>Meaning like, oh, you live in Brooklyn, you must be compromising.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah. She's like, oh, like that's all that far

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<v Speaker 2>out in Brooklyn. You know that's not bad.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, no, no, being far out is part of

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<v Speaker 1>the heel.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, she did give me a xanax when

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<v Speaker 2>I was milliseconds away from screaming on the plane, and

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<v Speaker 2>I did get a little Kareny at certain points, and

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<v Speaker 2>believe me, I will be channeling my inner Karen when

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<v Speaker 2>I need to get a refund.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby, Oh, you I mean you'll be getting a refund.

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<v Speaker 1>You also need vouchers, baby, Oh, I want vouchress for days.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, I'm going back to Florida next month, and

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't book without with Delta because I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>trust them right now, Right now, we don't take because hey,

0:42:09.920 --> 0:42:12.839
<v Speaker 1>I have miles I want to use. But I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>also have points with jet Blue, so I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna fly jet Blue for the summer and then we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see if Delta can win me back. But your days

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<v Speaker 1>are fucking numbered. I don't even I don't just want

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<v Speaker 1>my money back. I don't just want vouchers. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to own the company. I want to be SHEEO of Delta.

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<v Speaker 1>I I'm pretty sure this was Adelta Fly. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really remember where I was going, but I had a

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<v Speaker 1>similar travel experience where I spent a total of over

0:42:45.120 --> 0:42:49.759
<v Speaker 1>six hours on the tarmac and that was in a

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.760
<v Speaker 1>combination of three separate planes. I had to d plane

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<v Speaker 1>two planes sitting on the tarmac. Yes, first first plane

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<v Speaker 1>I think over two hours, second plane like easily hour

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. Third plane like another two or three hours.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cuckoo bananas, like, and I pretty sure I

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<v Speaker 1>got a like less than eight hundred dollar voucher. Yeah,

0:43:13.080 --> 0:43:15.080
<v Speaker 1>but you you got to push. I think eight hundred

0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>is the mark you should be trying to hit. I

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<v Speaker 1>think eight hundred is a perfectly reasonable amount of money

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<v Speaker 1>to get from the airline. I think that that's something

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 1>they'll settle for. They're probably they probably have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of increase on that specific flight. I think that's something

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<v Speaker 1>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I've already received an email that was just like we're sorry, Yes,

0:43:30.120 --> 0:43:32.640
<v Speaker 2>we're sorry. That's it, just we're sorry.

0:43:33.360 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>Wait, it doesn't say we're sorry. Here's like a free

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:37.959
<v Speaker 1>cocktail the next time you ride dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>No, all they gave us was a hotel voucher and

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<v Speaker 2>a twenty four dollars voucher for food. That's really and

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 2>and like again like, I do not blame the crew

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:53.879
<v Speaker 2>on our flight. I will say those round crew at

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<v Speaker 2>BWI they are on my list because I understand that

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 2>the situation was out of their hands and not their fault.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of the way that they were talking

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<v Speaker 2>to us at two am as we had been deplaned,

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<v Speaker 2>like we were crazy for being frustrated by it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just such a fucking nightmare. But it's over. It's over,

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<v Speaker 2>as I think is this episode, and before we sign off,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to say this. In the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of years, as I realized my grandma was getting older

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<v Speaker 2>and I was going to have less time with her,

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<v Speaker 2>I was very intentional about visiting home more often, spending

0:44:39.680 --> 0:44:42.279
<v Speaker 2>as much time with her as I could. I went

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<v Speaker 2>there for her birthday for the past couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I just want to say to anyone listening,

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<v Speaker 2>hold the people in your lives close to you, if

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<v Speaker 2>you can be intentional, spend that time with them. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>have any regrets. I really don't. Even though I'm sad,

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:03.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't have any regrets. And I'm so grateful for that.

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 2>And I'm grateful for all of you. I'm fran I'm

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 2>so grateful for you. I love you so much. I

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:16.879
<v Speaker 2>could not have survived this week without you. Yeah, You're

0:45:16.880 --> 0:45:18.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna make me cry to you.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you. I love you bad. I love you down.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you down.

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<v Speaker 2>Diva.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, I would die for you. I would die for you. Anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>I will see you maybe Thursday whole and this I

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<v Speaker 1>mean today is this, and this is disclosure.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Disclosure Day.