1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: What's up everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ? Bucky 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 1: back with you. Buck? How you doing, man, man, I'm good. Uh. 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: We got a big time Thursday night football game ahead 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns and the Denver Broncos. We've got a 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: great football weekend on the horizon. You are super excited 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: as you sit here with your app State hoodie on. 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: You're being on celebrating the Mountaineers home victory. I think 9 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: it was their first is their first home win, their 10 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: first win over a ranked team since way back against Michigan. 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: I think it's their first home win. Is there for 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: first home win ever over a top twenty five team. 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: It's their first win period versus the top twenty five 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: team since the Michigan game in two thousand seven. So 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: that's what's weird because we've beat since then. We beat 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: uh you know that you we will beat in North Carolina, 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: South Carolina. But then you look at like these big 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: time games like they had. Penn State was top ten 19 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: team in the country. We took them to overtime. Tennessee 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: was a top ten team. We took them to over time, 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: So we've kind of had some close ones, just haven't 22 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: quite been able to finish them. But someone who's asking 23 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: me about it, uh last night over text, you know, 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: congratulations and all kind of stuff. I'm like, look, I 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: know Coastals number fourteen in the country and they're a 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: great team. We just had coach shadow along. We respect 27 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: them and all that. But the app state like, you're 28 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: supposed to beat Coastal Carolina, Like it's more it was 29 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: more enjoyable beating a non top twenty five South Carolina 30 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: team than it was beating a number fourteen ranked Coastal Carolina. 31 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: Like it is what it is. It is what it is. 32 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 1: But it's funny that you're talking about their mindset, right, 33 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: I didn't know this, but evidently they won seventeen of 34 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: their last eighteen games Coastal. They're rolling and and and 35 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: and how the model of consistency that they have put 36 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: out and you know, coach Chadwells fourth year at the spot. 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: So in a way, it's still is a big win 38 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: because you're talking about a team that is beginning to 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: become a bit of a brand. I would still say 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: the app state to me, maybe I'm from North Carolina 41 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: is still more of a brand than Coastal just because 42 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: I've felt like I'm more for the state. We've seen him. 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: We've seen them when and even before the ascension to 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: like top football, like they dominated the lower level, you know, 45 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: and so um. But I will say the great thing 46 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: about the way football is distributed, you now get a 47 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: chance to see those teams that you didn't see all 48 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: the time, Like back in the day, would be a 49 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: big deal for app State to have a national game 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: that everyone had a chance to check out and look at, 51 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: because you get a chance to see the stadium, you 52 00:02:28,040 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: get a chance to see some of the pageantry around 53 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: the facility. And for me, because I've only been to 54 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: Boone once. I went to see Man whatever year I 55 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: went on a pro date, but I've never been to 56 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: a game there. So it was really the first time 57 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: they got a chance to see a state under the lights. 58 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: Because back in the day, even coming up or whatever, 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: a state always had to play the road game whenever 60 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: they came. They came to NC State to play NC 61 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,799 Speaker 1: State in those games obviously, like they came to North 62 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: Carolina a couple of years ago and played in Shapel Hill. 63 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: Normally you don't get a chance to see those other 64 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,920 Speaker 1: teams come to the building. Whatever you did, what do 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: you call what do you call the rocks man? Welcome 66 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: to the rock? Was it was? It was it called 67 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: the rock. We used to we used to That was 68 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: when I was there, is when they named it the rock. 69 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: And it was just because you're up on top of 70 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: a mountain, you're up on top of rock. So it 71 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: used to, they used to play. We always came out. 72 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if they still do. We always came 73 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: out the Back in Black because we always would wear 74 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, you don't have you don't have a lot 75 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: of uniform diversity. They shown more because they have more 76 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: now you have the white hilmet with have yellow. They 77 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: mixed in some more yellow that they that they than 78 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: they used to have. But we would always come out 79 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: and right before, right before Back in Black would hit, 80 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: it was Sean Connery Welcome to the Rock, and then 81 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: boom the cannons, fire the smoke and then went right out. 82 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: So that was our that I'm big on. I'm big 83 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: on traditions. I'm big onna walk out music and and 84 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: all that other stuff. And so I I get that 85 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know it was called the Rock. That's yeah, 86 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: because I think Alcatraz the Rock, like yeah, on a 87 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: hill up on a mountain. So um, it has a 88 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a beautiful. It's a beautiful setting 89 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: for a game. So anybody lives in North Carolina hasn't 90 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: been up there. I mean, even if you don't have 91 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: any any rooting interest in and who wins or who loses. 92 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: It's a fun atmosphere. Just go up there and check 93 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 1: it out. That's cool. And then you know, I can't 94 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: I can't let you talk about it because the old 95 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: scouting me is like, Okay, if I do venture up 96 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: there and I'm going to a game, where do I 97 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: need to eat Daniel Daniel famous place because you get 98 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 1: the biscuits, they get your hand biscuit up there. That's 99 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: that's a must. You gotta stop in there. I love it. 100 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: I love it. No, it was a great way. It 101 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: was great. It was actually a great game to watch. 102 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,119 Speaker 1: And I was going that offense is fun with coast 103 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: to all the options stuff that they do is fun 104 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: to watch. Man. They do a ton. They do a 105 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: ton of it, and it's funny that they are known 106 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: for the option because I think Georgia Southern Party ways 107 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: with their head coach. So I wonder what that is 108 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 1: going to look like going forward, because you know, they're 109 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: synonymous with the option. I mean, I know they're all 110 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: old so kind uh flavor, all permeated, but man, the 111 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: option is such a big part of what those leagues 112 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: and those schools have been tied to that I just 113 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: would expect to see more option football because more option football, 114 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: to me is old school football and I love that. 115 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: All right. As much as I would love to continue 116 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 1: talking about app state this entire pod, I'm sure there's 117 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: other people that have other things that are interested in 118 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: than uh than a big sun Belt tilt on a 119 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: Wednesday night. Anyways, that was It was fun. It was 120 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: It was a fun ball game. I want to get 121 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: to a couple of different topics here, Buck, I think 122 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: the headliner, though, we need to discuss the news that 123 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: came out about Deshaun Watson and a potential trade. Let's 124 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: let's get to that right after this. All right, Well, 125 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: this was this was the buzz. I mean, I think 126 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: I was doing something else and then I hopped in 127 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: my computer, Buck, and I just saw Shaun Watson trending 128 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: and so I thought, Okay, maybe there's some finality to 129 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: the legal stuff that's going on. I mean, what's going on? 130 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: And then it pops up and it was a lot 131 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 1: of respected voice is, including John McClain, who's just as 132 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: good as it gets, come out of Houston saying this 133 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: trade with Deshaun Watson to Miami, uh could go down 134 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: within the week. UM. I love to get your thoughts 135 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: on that one. Well, I think here here, here's what happens. 136 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: And credit the Houston Texans for standing firm and just 137 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: kind of biting the bullet when it came to Deshaun 138 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: Watson what they want to do. They have haven't relent 139 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: it necessarily on their offer, um, and they've been able 140 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: to allow time to work on their side. A couple 141 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: of things have happened that have allowed Deshaun Watson to 142 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: now re emerge as a trend on the trading market. 143 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: Number One, we all have high hopes. We all have 144 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: worked in organizations where we are optimistic that a our 145 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: team is ready to go. And then you start playing, 146 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: and then when you start playing, and if you start 147 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:49,159 Speaker 1: telling up losses, it then makes you rethink the way 148 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: your roster is constructed. So some of the teams that 149 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: are now struggling are looking at their current quarterback situation 150 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: and wondering, man, is our quarterback good enough to get 151 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: us where we need to go. The second thing has happened. Normally, 152 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: when you're in the quarterback market, you also have your 153 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: scouts looking at the college game to kind of figure 154 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 1: out who is out there, what's next, um, how robust 155 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: is the market going to be when it comes to 156 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: the NFL draft, where this year, by all accounts, has 157 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: been a major disappointment for some of the guys that 158 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: we thought would be high first round or top first 159 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: round picks in the college game in the next year's draft, 160 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: because those guys have underperformed and we're not I don't 161 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: even know if there's a sure thing that we can 162 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: really get excited about. It now has forced everyone, all, right, 163 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: who's the best quarterback that could be available? Norm behole, 164 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: We're back to Deshaun Watson, because let's take the off 165 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: the field stuff aside. He's the top five quarterback. It's 166 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: a top five quarterback who last year is coming off 167 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: the best year of his career on a losing team 168 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: that was four and twelve. He played at the m 169 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: v P level when you look at the numbers and 170 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: those things, and so because of that, as you know, 171 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: in front offices, we always mitigate risk versus reward. The 172 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: risk is, well, I don't know what's going to happen 173 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: with all the legal stuff and how that's also going 174 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: to impact his ability to get on the field, So 175 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: that's risky. The reward is, if we can navigate through 176 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: those waters, we will get a player that we know 177 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: as a top five player, we know is a game 178 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: changing player and maybe a franchise altering player when we 179 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: bring him in the building. That reward might be worth 180 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: the risk and the pr nightmare that you may have 181 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: to take on when you do make this move. I'm 182 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 1: just curious to see what this looks like like. To me, 183 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: this is my you know, theory looking at this thing. 184 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: I have kind of been anti trading Deshaun Watson during 185 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 1: the season, and the reason I have been that way 186 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: is because I want to know what picks I'm trading for. 187 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to trade Deshaun Watson and there's too 188 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,679 Speaker 1: much variance, especially we're in weeks six. There's a lot 189 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: of a lot of football season left that I just 190 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: trade Deshaun Watson for you know, a top ten pick, 191 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: or did I just trade Deshaun Watson for pick? In 192 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: this draft obviously is gonna be multiple year of ones 193 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: and in different combination of picks that you'd get. But 194 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: I would like to know if I want to get 195 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: a top five pick at least out of this, even 196 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: if there's no quarterback, I can get one of these 197 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: premier defensive linemen in this upcoming draft. I just want 198 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: to know what I'm getting. So this is my theory 199 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: on this, and we'll see how it plays out. A 200 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: lot of times when these trades go down, Um, when 201 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: those discussions take place in one like this, this is 202 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: a we'll just play this out role play it here book. UM. 203 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 1: So if I'm Necessario, I call you and say you're 204 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: You're Chris Greer in this situation, and I'm gonna say 205 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: the number is five. I need a combination of picks 206 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: and players, high picks and players. It's gonna be five total. 207 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: You know that we're after, so you can you can 208 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: give me your offer however you want. That might be 209 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: three ones and two players, but maybe in this case 210 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: to be more of a fixed cost to do it. Now, 211 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: maybe this is a situation where Houston ends up getting 212 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 1: three players that they know can play right now, are 213 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 1: really good players, and two picks. Maybe that's what this 214 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: looks like. Yeah, and so like you wonder, So then 215 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: if I am if I'm sorry, and I'm looking at 216 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: the Rocks, because the first thing you do is like, oh, 217 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: that's what I needed, I say, okay, I'll give you that. 218 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the opportunity to look at my 219 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: roster and figure out what which guys do you want 220 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: because I would try and offer up, Hey, man, I 221 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,439 Speaker 1: give you buying Jones, I give you one of my 222 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: offensive linement. I give you a defensive linement. And in 223 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: a way they go you might don't know them, be like, oh, 224 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,959 Speaker 1: you're buying Jones is cool, but I rather have Xavian 225 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: Howard because you haven't been able to get him to 226 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: a deal. So we'll sign him to a deal and 227 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: will bring him on because he fits how we want 228 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: to play. Then it's trying to figure out who's the 229 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: other blue chip player that I can pluck from them 230 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: to go with the picks that I'm going to get. 231 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 1: And you say, actually to blue chip players because we're 232 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: going three players two picks, and so I mean, I 233 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: think that's a good strategy. But now that you've seen 234 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: the Dolphins struggle, are you confident enough that they have 235 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: too expendable or three expendable blue chip players. Yeah, And 236 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's the thing. I mean, I'm looking 237 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: at that. And if I'm Houston, I know he doesn't 238 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: have a ton of production right now, but i'd be 239 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: I'd be saying, Okay, Jalen Phillips has to be a 240 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: part of this. You're gonna give me a premiere rusher. 241 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: He's the first first first round pick, premier rusher, and 242 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,199 Speaker 1: it's a set there's a set value there. I know, 243 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: you know who he is. And I'm not having to 244 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: wonder if I'm gonna be having the fourth picker the 245 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: eighteenth pick, Like that's more of a fixed thing. So 246 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: I'd be curious, man, when this thing all shakes out. 247 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: Maybe we're thinking all along, you know, three first round picks, 248 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: a second round pick, and a fourth round pick, you know, 249 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: or whatever that looks like. Maybe it isn't. Maybe it 250 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: is a little more player heavy and pick light. Maybe 251 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: that's the Maybe that's the way it goes. It might 252 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: be the way to go, and you know, like to 253 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: the credited way this is played out, you're going to 254 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: get a team that is desperate to get a thing. 255 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: And I don't think that if it's Houston, I don't 256 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: think they take the quarterback in return. It's not gonna 257 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: be a situation we're like, oh no, no, we're gonna 258 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: get that. We're gonna get that. Yeah no, no no, no, no, no, 259 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: we're not doing that. Um. I think now you've seen 260 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: the Dolphins who were at one in five. They're struggling. 261 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: You're now Chris Green and Brian Flores. You're in a 262 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: bit of a desperation situation because this is the year 263 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: that was supposed to pop. You're coming off a tennis 264 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: six year a season ago. The next step is supposed 265 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: to be a playoff birth and then maybe a round 266 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: or two moving into the tournament. Man, you will below 267 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: that standard now, so you have to do something to 268 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: stave off an angry fan base and an owner who 269 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: was like, whoa, why are we taking steps back? So 270 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a different situation, which is why they there. 271 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: The other team. The other two teams that have come 272 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: up though, the Philadelphia Eagles and the Carolina Panthers. I 273 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: think let's talk about the Eagles, because you do know 274 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: that front office fairly will Why would they want to 275 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 1: jump in the QB sweepstakes right now, which is DESHAWNA. Watson. Yeah. 276 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: I think when you look at the Eagles and you 277 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 1: look at at Howie Roseman there, Howie um, Look, they've 278 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,320 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl, I think he doesn't necessarily get 279 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: all the credit that he deserves. But I think you 280 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: look at where they are and some of the struggled 281 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: a little recent dip that they just had. I think 282 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: it looks like from the outside, okay, you get one 283 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: more quarterback, all right, You're gonna give you a shot 284 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: at one more quarterback to see if it make it work. 285 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: Wentz had a good little run, then it fell off, 286 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: moved on from him. I think they get a chance 287 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: at one more guy. So do they want to be 288 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: patient and roll with Jalen Hurts and maybe some of 289 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: the limitations you have there, or they've done all this work. 290 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: They've made these trades to potentially have three first round 291 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: picks next year, and if the Colts, you know, are 292 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: competitive and keep winning, that is gonna be a first 293 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: round pick. Because Carson Winston coming out of the lineup. 294 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: So you've you've kind of built to this moment. So 295 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: this is the time to cash it in if if 296 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: ever there wasn't time. And if you know anything about 297 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: the Eagles and their history, they always invest in a quarterback. 298 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: Look at the money they've paid backup quarterbacks over the years. 299 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 1: Much was made when they picked Hurts because he said, 300 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: we're a quarterback factory. That got all the attention, like 301 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: they place a premium on the quarterback position. Then you 302 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: look at offensive line, defensive line, that's like been their 303 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: mL that's what they do. Quarterback, offensive line, defensive line, 304 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: figure the rest of it out. So this is all 305 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: pointing to this year to have all these picks, and 306 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: as we've mentioned, being in position to take a quarterback 307 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: in this draft, or trading up to take a quarterback 308 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 1: in this draft is not if you get to play 309 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: that card one time. I think I'm not playing that 310 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: card on any of these draft able guys, not from 311 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: what I've seen this far. I want a proven commodity, 312 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: which is one of three guys. That is, if somehow 313 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers forced his way out, if somehow Russell Wilson 314 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: forced his way out and then arguably the best option 315 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: if you take the off the field stuff, which is 316 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: its own deal. We got a sort through that, but 317 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: when you look at Deshaun Watson's ability plus age, that 318 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: is the best long term plan at the quarterback position. Again, 319 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm not dismissing the off the field stuff. You've got 320 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: to factor all that in and figure all that stuff out. 321 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: But as a player, that's the best option for for 322 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: any of these teams. As a player, no, I think 323 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: it is the best option. I do wonder because the 324 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: Eagles have been down this road in a way before 325 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: with Michael Vick, where they had to deal with the 326 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: pr nightmare that came along. We've taken on Michael Vick 327 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: at the time he was dealing with the dog fighting conviction, 328 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: coming out of jail and dealing with that. I'm not 329 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: saying this is the same. I'm not saying this necessarily different, 330 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: but it is a cloud that will hang over the 331 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: franchise for a while with Deshaun Watson, particularly until he's 332 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: able to play. Like I'm not saying that his play 333 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: will absolve some of the issues that are lingering, but 334 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 1: we do know having been in this league a long 335 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: time man. Great play can make some of that stuff 336 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: kind of fade into the background when it comes to 337 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: what the pr situation will be and because they've navigated 338 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: it through and when they did navigate it through successfully 339 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: with Michael Vick, they were rewarded with good the quarterback 340 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: played for a period of time with Michael Vick. Deshaun 341 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: Watson is younger, Deshaun Watson has a longer shelf life 342 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: than Mike Vick. Had a better quarterback, better quarterback. Yes, 343 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 1: so it gives them an opportunity to really reset the 344 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: franchise and do it um. So it makes sense. Let's 345 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: talk about the Carolina Panthers, because the Carolina Panthers made 346 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: the move for Sam Donald in the off season. They 347 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: committed to take the fifth year option, but Dave Tepper 348 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: is very, very aggressive and saying that this team needs 349 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: a quarterback, They needs a quarterback to build around. They 350 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: kind of kicked the tires on this move earlier before 351 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: all this stuff kind of came up, and it looks 352 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: like now they're back full circle to maybe they would 353 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: have an interest in it. Why would you think they 354 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: would make this move um at this time? Well, again, 355 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: with the talent is the talent. I mean, he's Deshaun Watson. 356 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean what we say, top five, top six quarterback 357 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 1: in the league. I mean, the talent's a talent. The 358 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: other thing is you know Buck, I mean, this is 359 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson is Clemson, He's he's you know, the Carolinas. 360 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: This doesn't get any bigger than him in terms of 361 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,159 Speaker 1: of of everybody following his college career all the way 362 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: up to what he's done in the NFL. So it's 363 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: a great it's a great play in terms of his ability. 364 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: It's weird to say because you've got again off the 365 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: field stuff on one hand, but then he's a you know, 366 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 1: somewhat local kid who these fan base has known and 367 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: followed throughout his career. So you know that's that's the 368 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: part that's kind of hard to figure that out and 369 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: put that all together. But you can see. Look, you're 370 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: always chasing an upgrade no matter what you do. And 371 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: I think Sam I still you know, we've seen Sam 372 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: right a little bit of the roller coaster. I think 373 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 1: with McCaffrey out of the lineup, he didn't look like 374 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: the same guy. Uh, it doesn't help. They can't catch him, 375 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: and it dropped a bunch of balls last week. Um, 376 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: but I would say I wouldn't think they would be 377 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: the most motivated team. To me, Miami looks clearly the 378 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: most motivated. Philadelphia has the most firepower ammunition to be 379 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: able to pull it off. Um. You know. So that's 380 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: the fascinating one. And then you know, Denver is seems 381 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: to be a team that's going to be in the 382 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: conversation for some quarterback um after this year. I tend 383 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: to think that if you're Aaron Rodgers, that's where I 384 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: would be trying to get to, would be Denver with 385 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: all the weapons that they have. But but I want 386 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: to go circle back real quick, because if we're saying 387 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: this is this huge dominoes, right, so if if Miami 388 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: gets Watson but they don't trade to in that deal, 389 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 1: then you know, the rumors you hear are okay, two 390 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: to Washington seems to be um one that's that's got 391 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: some legs. And so then I'm sitting here and going, Okay, 392 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 1: well Houston has left. Really, if you don't think Davis 393 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: Mills is that guy, they don't have their guy. And 394 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: we've established that the draft is not great. But what 395 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: if Houston gets a hall of players and a couple 396 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: of picks from Miami, and then what if after the 397 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: year he said, Man, you know what, Nick sat back 398 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: and said, Okay, I'm gonna build up and load up 399 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: this roster. If only I had could find a guy 400 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: who could operate this New England type offense. And there's 401 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: and there's Jimmy Garoppolo just sitting out there as they 402 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: hand the keys to the car to Trey Lance. Next year, 403 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: I think the forty Niners might be able to get 404 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: a pretty decent return. Again. So what we talked about, 405 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: Trabinsky's gonna have a market. I think Jimmy garoppolos one 406 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: that I forgot to mention the other day who I 407 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: think will also have a market. Yeah, I think that 408 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: makes sense. That's exactly what I was thinking. Jimmy Garoppolo 409 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: going there, uh to Houston because there's a familiarity. General 410 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: manager knows the player, helped draft a player, has seen 411 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: the player play well at times in the system that 412 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: they want to run. Yes, So that makes a ton 413 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: of sense to tell you about. Lower thing to me 414 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,399 Speaker 1: is interesting if Miami parts weighs with him, who is 415 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 1: going to be the team that now it's like, Okay, 416 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,440 Speaker 1: we're good with two of the Washington football team. I mean, 417 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: I like that thought. But if Washington isn't there, who's 418 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: the other team. Who's the next team that we can 419 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: say we can tie to two based on how people 420 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: may have liked him before the draft, now that we've 421 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 1: seen him, how many of those same people still like 422 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: him and view him as that guy or um has 423 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: some of the luster, some of the shine come off 424 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 1: of that the new toy. Uh NOA, we've seen him 425 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: playing and seen him playing for like an I don't know, man, 426 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: it's trying to you know, it's tricky to kind of 427 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: find out where that where that home would be. We 428 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: mentioned it. We'll see some you know, some shuffling of 429 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 1: of quarterbacks and then their destinations that I'm just writing 430 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: these down the ones we've come up with so far. Okay, 431 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: so we've got Watson to Miami, We've got two of 432 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: the Washington, We've got Jimmy g to Houston. If we're 433 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: saying this is where so far ahead of ourselves, But 434 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: if we're saying Trubisky is gonna get something like if 435 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: I look for fits for true Whisky, I actually look 436 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh as a plays for him. You've got Haskins there. Um, 437 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: But you know, I think with Rubinsky's athleticism, I think 438 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: he would give them something that maybe Haskins can't give them. 439 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: Um in that regard, but that was a fit that 440 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: I thought, Okay, that one makes some sense. Yeah, it 441 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: would make some sense because you know, it's funny because 442 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: we can beat up Rubinsky and point out all the 443 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: things that he hasn't been able to do. But he's 444 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: been the two playoffs. He's got some good tape. You 445 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: go back, he's got some of them. He's been even 446 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: though people say it doesn't matter, he's been a Pro 447 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: Bowl player. And I don't care what anyone says, like, 448 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: once you're a pro bowler, you're always a Pro Bowl 449 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: That just like winning an Emmy, you're always board. Whatever 450 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: is one of those things that it stays with you 451 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: for life, and so um for him, I do believe 452 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting. I think the one thing 453 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: that uh, Traubinsky needs, he needs playing time. I'm not 454 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: suggesting or wishing that something happens to Josh Allen. He 455 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: needs one of those things to happen where he gets 456 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: a coportunity to play a game or finish the game 457 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: where people can see a new and improved version of 458 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: the guy that was at Chicago. He does that, then 459 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: for sure, I think the market is robust right now. 460 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: We have to do it off preseason play and what 461 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: people talk about his practices and those things. He needs 462 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: a game or two to to kind of seal the 463 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: deal when it comes to kind of reviving the market 464 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: around him. So the challenge then, uh, this is why 465 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: this is. This is an example. I'll give you a 466 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 1: quick example of why you're going to see the Jimmy G. 467 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: Trubisky markets unfold. So if we say Watson to Miami, 468 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: and we say to A goes to Washington, and let's 469 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 1: say Jimmy G goes to Houston, then you've got Pittsburgh, Denver, Philadelphia, Detroit. 470 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: Just those are just four teams are off top of 471 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: my head. So you've got Trubisky left out there is 472 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: arguably the best option, and you've got those four teams 473 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: um all looking for a quarterback. I mean, it stands 474 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: to reason that he is going to get a nice market. 475 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: So it's the same. It's the same with Jimmy G. 476 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: And if you if we just say Watson. If this 477 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: thing happens in the next week or so, when you 478 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,560 Speaker 1: end up with Watson and two off the board, Um, 479 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: then man, it's the price goes up for all these 480 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: other dudes. Yeah, the price is going for all the 481 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: other dudes. And so you have to kind of look 482 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: at that and do it. And now that we're seeing 483 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: that the draft may not bear fruit the way that 484 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: we thought, it becomes musical chairs all over again. And 485 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: last time we saw musical chairs where there were more 486 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: bodies then chairs. Now it flips. They're more chairs than bodies, 487 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: and so the chairs have to figure out how to 488 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: get those butts and seats and and and get your 489 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback or get the quarterback that you believe um 490 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: can kind of lead you to the next level. It's 491 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: tougher because they're not as many quarterbacks this time around. 492 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: So that does increase the value and make it more 493 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: challenging to make these move because people understand exactly what 494 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: it looks like nixt year and beyond. All right, So 495 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: the last thing on this and then we'll move on. 496 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: So if I if I tell you, if you can 497 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 1: be Houston in that trade and with Watson, and you've 498 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: got one player that you can pluck off Miami. We'll 499 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: get you know, a combination of players and picks. Who 500 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: would be the one player that you would pluck for Miami. Yeah, 501 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: So if you're Houston, you take Howard Avon Howard over Bind. 502 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: He's a better he's a better player, and he's he's 503 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 1: I think he's scheme friendly. I think he can even 504 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: though he's played a ton of man to man in Miami, 505 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: he can play his own. He can go get his 506 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: hands on the ball out. He's the one guy that 507 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: I would go get. He's twenty eight years old, went 508 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: to Baylor, so he'd be going back to Texas UM. 509 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: So that's a good one to me. I think I would. 510 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: I think I would. I think I would demand Phillips. 511 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: I think I would just demand I want a young 512 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: I want a young pass freshers. He's bucked. He's not 513 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,600 Speaker 1: gonna cost you anything in terms of the money, Like 514 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,719 Speaker 1: the money is super cheap. Four years, he's twenty two 515 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: years old. Like, and they say we're not part with him, 516 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: be like, well that's fine, We're you're not getting the 517 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: you're not getting a franchise quarterback in his prime that's 518 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,439 Speaker 1: not happening. I got I've got Philadelphia, I've got all 519 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: these other teams I can talk with, So that would 520 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: be the one I think I would demand that they 521 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: put and I was I would also take the TI 522 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: and from I'll take the time, and from Sick. He's 523 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: good to Sean's gonna get there and it's gonna be 524 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: like the Will Smith where everybody I would take. He said, 525 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 1: Now we talked about Phillips, Howard Sick. Okay, yeah, we 526 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: can Yeah, throwing a pick, throwing a pick, and then 527 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: we're good throwing throwing your first round pick next year. 528 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: We got a deal, We're done. Yeah, and then you 529 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: have to figure out a way of your Miami. Okay, Now, 530 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: how do we upgrade the weapons around? Yeah? Around the 531 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: quarter Right now, we got a quarterback? Now what now? What? Now? What? 532 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,360 Speaker 1: That's gonna be fascinating to see what happens with that thing. See, 533 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: we'll see what goes down. All right, I want to 534 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: get to um this interesting Thursday night game. We're gonna 535 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: do that right after this, all right, Buck, we're gonna 536 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: be calling this game, uh, doing it for Amazon. You 537 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: can find it again if you haven't hung out with 538 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: us on a Thursday after. I encourage you guys that 539 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: do it. It's a lot of fun. Just go to 540 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,120 Speaker 1: twitch dot tv slash Moved the sticks. Twitch dot tv 541 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: slash Moved the Sticks. Bucky myself, Joy Taylor is outstanding. 542 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: We have a great time. We have some fun. We 543 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: read some old scouting reports. We we you know, go 544 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: through some old war stories, and then we just what 545 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: a unicorn is. Yeah, we talk unicorns and wall those. 546 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, if you don't know what that is, you 547 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: gotta tune in. You can catch us and uh and 548 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 1: we'll explain it all. Um, we talked about team building. Um, 549 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: it's fun, It's it's a hang really And the coolest 550 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: part about this, I say this every week, is that 551 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: there's a chat that's open. So hey, you know, hey Buck, 552 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, what did you think of this guy coming out? 553 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: Hey you know, hey DJ, you know who has the 554 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: better offensive line? Blah blah blah blah blah. Anything you 555 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: put in that chat, we answer it real time, right 556 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: on right during the game. So, um, it's a lot 557 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 1: of fun. It's it's really a cool hang. So again, 558 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,200 Speaker 1: it's Twitch dot tv Slash Moved the Sticks. But um, 559 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: your takeaway on this one. Buck. I just saw the 560 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: report that said it looks like Jedrick Wills is going 561 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: to play, Odell potentially could play. Uh that's TBD as 562 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: we as we record this right now. But man, a 563 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: lot of other guys they are missing there for the Browns. Yeah, 564 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: a lot of guys are missing. And this is a 565 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: huge test, uh for both seams, but particularly the Browns. 566 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: The Browns had a lot of optimism heading into the season. 567 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: A lot of us talked about this being the most 568 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: talented team in the league, and we still look at 569 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: the roster even though they have all these guys on uh. 570 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: This is isline. They are super duper talented, and so 571 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: when you're this talented, you don't want to and you 572 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: don't want to miss out on your window because this 573 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 1: is their opportunity to really do it. You know, Pittsburgh 574 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: is down, Uh, the Ravens are beat up and banged 575 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: up in the Bengals aren't ready. This is the time 576 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: where the Browns are supp is to make their move 577 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: and seize the division for a little bit, and so 578 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: they haven't been able to do it. So I feel 579 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: like this is a must win game for them, and 580 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: it's one of those games where Chemist the fantasy is 581 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: gonna have to be at his best. He's gonna have 582 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: to be in his bag, doaling up the tricks, making 583 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: sure he makes the right calls when it comes to 584 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 1: the gambles and guesses and all those things to give 585 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: his team an opportunity to win. This is a tough deal, though, 586 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 1: like it's I mean it's it's just a hard deal 587 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: because the Broncos defense is legit and you don't have 588 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 1: your normal running game. That is the trick that I 589 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: that's the tough part of it. Yeah, I U By 590 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: the way, one of the things we do on Thursday 591 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: nights is I have a very daddi ish uh musical 592 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: reference um every week and then Bucky enjoyed giving me 593 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 1: a hard time for it. So I've already I'm looked 594 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: at my board and I've already got I've already got 595 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: mine ready to go. It's always the nineties reference, a 596 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: nineties music reference. You're ready for this one, Buck Keenham 597 00:28:56,080 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: was the case that they gave me what we're doing. 598 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: We're doing, dog, that's what we're doing. Smokes, that's not 599 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 1: the apt happened, you know what? That that's what happens 600 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: is a victory Thursday, and so we're celebratory. We're going 601 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 1: all out. That is. Oh, Joey's gonna hate it. She's 602 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: gonna absolutely hate it. Um, alright, no, look, Uh, Blake 603 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: Hantson is gonna play right tackle for the Browns. Jeddrick 604 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: Wills back in at left tackle, James Hudson out of 605 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: the lineup. That's good news for the Browns. James Hudson 606 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: struggled in a mighty way last week. Max Crosby did 607 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: to him was illegal in most states. Um, Blake hants 608 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: Is actually played pretty good as a young player. He's 609 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: a college free agent, was with with Buffalo and twenty nineteen. 610 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: The Jets practice squad last year. Actually think he's played 611 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: pretty well at a Northwestern. So he sides over to 612 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: the right side. You have Wills back into the left. 613 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: That'll help their tackle situation after they without confident Wills 614 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: for the last couple of weeks. I think the metric 615 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: Felton is a guy who we both like to come 616 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: out of U. C. L. A. Is primed to have 617 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: a good game in this one. They can run it, 618 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: they can throw it. They're going to be in multiple 619 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: tight end sets, so you're missing some receivers. The Browns 620 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: are only gonna have one on the field a bunch. 621 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: I bet you see a lot of thirteen personnel with 622 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: those three tight ends with Hooper and Joe Coo and 623 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: Harrison Bryant. UM. I think their third in the year, 624 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: third in the league this year and playing a multiple 625 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: tight end sets. Stefanski the previous two years as a 626 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: play caller was number one. UM, so they're gonna try 627 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of tight ends out there. I think they'll 628 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: be able to get the metric Felton involved. UM. So 629 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking at for them. On the other 630 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: side of the ball, the Broncos are going to blitz. 631 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: They blitz a bunch on third down over the only 632 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: team in the NFL that blitz is more on third down. 633 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: They'll rush five to try and free up Vaughan one 634 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: on one. I'm sure they'll try and get Vaughan on hands, 635 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: who I just mentioned I think is playing pretty well. 636 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: But that'll be a good matchup to watch. UM. I 637 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: think it will be a little chess match there between 638 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: Vic Fangio uh and Kevin Stefanski and flip it over 639 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: to the other side. In this game, Um, Bobby Massey 640 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: can't block Myles Garrett Orgin Dave and clowning. That ain't happen. 641 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: So that's why that's why I'm kind of sticking with 642 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland in this game because I think at the end 643 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: of the day, they can't. I think Cleveland has a 644 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: better chance of blocking Denver, uh than Denver has a 645 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: chance of blocking Cleveland. That makes any sense, It does 646 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,360 Speaker 1: make sense. It's gonna be It's look, it's gonna be 647 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: some tough sledding, some tough sledding all around, and so 648 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: this is gonna be one that it's gonna be interesting 649 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: because it's gonna fall back on the quarterbacks. What I'm 650 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: curious to see is how this offense in Cleveland looks 651 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: with Case Keenum pulling it than Baker Mayfield. And I'm 652 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: not saying that Keenum is a better player. They may feel, 653 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: but I'm saying he's a more experienced, experienced player within 654 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: this system that allows you to process quicker, get to 655 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: your second and third reads quicker. They didn't get the 656 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: ball in time, and it as a result, it makes 657 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: the defense stretch horse only in vertically because now you 658 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: have someone who can get to the checkdowns quicker within 659 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: the concept man that that changes the narrative a little bit, 660 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: as opposed to when you're dealing with Baker Mayfield and 661 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: he's trying to hang on the primary then the secondary 662 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: before taking the dump off. I want to see how 663 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: Case Kingdom operates this offense, because if he operates it 664 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: very efficiently, then what happens particularly he operates it efficiently 665 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: and they win. The more opportunities to get is the 666 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: more they get a chance to see what the office 667 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: looks like with him, it then begins to impact the 668 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: money that they will be willing to go up to 669 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 1: to secure Baker Mayfield. So you brought up my point here. 670 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: Remember we're getting close to the Christmas season. You remember 671 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: It's a Wonderful Life. Oh yeah, you get to see 672 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: what he George Bailey gets to see what life is 673 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: like without him. Yeah, this is a It's a Wonderful 674 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: Life the Cleveland Browns edition. Yeah, they're gonna and it's 675 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: a wonderful life. Things were not good well without uh 676 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: maybe it's different things without Baker may Feel, but it 677 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: is a glimpse I think it could be. I think 678 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:03,960 Speaker 1: you use this word to the day It's a little 679 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: bit of a blessing in disguise for for Cleveland, And 680 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: I know I wish they had all the other pieces 681 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: and all the other support around, uh case Keendom to 682 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: see what it looked like. But nonetheless we get a 683 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: little sneak peak here, see what life looks like without Baker. Yes, 684 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things. And we're not saying 685 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: that this will make them replace Baker Mayfield with case Keenum, 686 00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,240 Speaker 1: but this will give them an opportunity to evaluate the 687 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: system and the personnel. It would be a better evaluation 688 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: if Audell Beckham Junior, if Jarvis Landry, if both running 689 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: backs were available, you could see this offense operate a 690 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: little bit without the trigger man. But either way you 691 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: can get a sense of big difference. Is it not 692 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: a big difference, but those quiet conversations that happened and 693 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: exist in those closed door meetings, this would be one 694 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: where case Keenum's name would certainly be mentioned and how 695 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: this team performs certainly would be evaluated. Yeah, it's fascinating, man, 696 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 1: anything else on your mind? Buck? Are you nervous at all? 697 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: Three one braves right now? I mean, by the way, 698 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: as a kid who grew up in the South. For 699 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: you to be rooting for the Dodgers over the Braves 700 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: is I mean, I don't even know how. Now you 701 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: go back to the Carolina show, your face is very easy. 702 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: So this is why why it's so easy growing up 703 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: in North Carolina and Raleigh. Uh, they were only two 704 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: baseball teams that would show up nightly on the two. 705 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: One the Cubs and no, no, no, no no, the 706 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: Baltimore Orioles were going w LFL twenty two. Uh we did, 707 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: but it's like the Cubs. They're always playing dates, w 708 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: g N and TBS. Like that's a little kid. I 709 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 1: was like, I had if I love the Potteries. But 710 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: then I'm like, I can always watch the Braves and 711 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: the Cubs every day, right, So I could watch the Orioles. 712 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,879 Speaker 1: So they would they would come up. I would watch them, 713 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: and at the time it was Eddie Murray and all 714 00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: those guys I used to love. They used to wear 715 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 1: the old hats I used to love the Orioles had, 716 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: but they were all right, they are right. And then 717 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,840 Speaker 1: the Braves. Everybody and my mom used to love the 718 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 1: Braves though, like and they I've never met somebody from 719 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,920 Speaker 1: the Carolina's didn't love the Braves. I used to like 720 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: Dale Murphy coming up, they were the lovable losers, like 721 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,600 Speaker 1: Chris Chambliss and all that. They had the light blue 722 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: uniforms and all that. They would come on all the time. 723 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: But what happened is when TBS took over, they became 724 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,040 Speaker 1: Remember they used to sell themselves as American's team because 725 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 1: they're broadcast all over and everyone would look at him. 726 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: And then they got to the point where they were 727 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 1: winning the division all the time, right, and in a 728 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,840 Speaker 1: row or something like that, a million years in a row. 729 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: And I just they were just they were just boring. 730 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: They didn't have any flash, They didn't have any any 731 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: literally had a lot of Sanders on their team. What 732 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: do you mean they didn't have any finglas. This is 733 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: also where the impacted it. So in nine uh, shortly 734 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,840 Speaker 1: after the draft, I'm like, I'm gonna go watch the 735 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: Braves play. Go down for the weekend, get the tickets, 736 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: I get into the thing. I look at this in 737 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: the field where Dian Sanders is supposed to be. He's 738 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: not plane because it's the day that he got traded 739 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: to the Cincinnati ritsow I'm better, better you couldn't find 740 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: any love in your heart for Ron Gant or David Justice, 741 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: none of those guys. They didn't really Terry Candleton, they 742 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: didn't do it for me. Marki's Chrystom, they didn't. I wish, 743 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: I wish I could say that the Durham Bulls were 744 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: their farm team. They were right there down the road 745 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:32,799 Speaker 1: from couldn't get in toy it couldn't get into That's disappointing, man. 746 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: So how so then explain to men, you just you 747 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,319 Speaker 1: live in l A. Then you just because you just 748 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 1: started going to dodge your games, so you like it 749 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,799 Speaker 1: started off like you know, DJ when you're scout, not 750 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,959 Speaker 1: really making a whole lot. You just sitting out there 751 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,920 Speaker 1: and the bleacher leaders, Hey six dot Look the Dodgers 752 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,799 Speaker 1: had six dollar tickets, so you could go and sit 753 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: in the bleachers for six dollars. Then you can sit there, 754 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: you get dodge your dogs or whatever. And then they 755 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: they bought your allegiance with the bargain based rest and 756 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: did you kind of start seeing him and and then 757 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: you kind of it. It becomes the thing. And because 758 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: I don't like any other l A sports, I'm not 759 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: a Lakers fan or anything like that the Dodgers are 760 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,239 Speaker 1: to deal. And then when you have a son who 761 00:37:15,719 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: loves baseball and you passed it all, you go to 762 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 1: the games. You go to the games, and then it 763 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: kind of big game, the family deal and everyone digs 764 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: the Dodgers. So that's that's what it is. I'll give 765 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: you a pass. Your dad allows you to even come 766 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 1: back into I don't even know if it likes the Braves. 767 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know. My dad likes he likes baseball, 768 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 1: but I don't know if he likes the Braves. He 769 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 1: just kind of likes watching it or whatever. Um. I 770 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: mean I went to app State buck and when when everybody, everybody, 771 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: the Potters played the Braves and the either the NLC, Yes, 772 00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: I can't remember, was it they played him in the playoffs? Anyways, 773 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: they dorm I mean, it was like every single kid 774 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 1: was living and dying with the Braves and that and 775 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: that thing. I played with a teammate, uh Antoine Williams, 776 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 1: a train who he went to the high school where 777 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: Chipper Jones eventually attended. I forgot about chipping and he 778 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: told me, and he told me this, I don't know. 779 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: He told me that the reason Chipper Jones wore the 780 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: number is because Chipper looked up to him. Now, that 781 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 1: might be one of those things like it might be 782 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: an urban legend legend, but Train, that's what h told 783 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: me that he want. Chipper Jones won a number because 784 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 1: he looked at it. I was like, I don't know, Train, 785 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: he's very good. I don't know if he needs to 786 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,520 Speaker 1: wear your number, but maybe that's it. So it was 787 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 1: always the same. But yeah, I used to grow up 788 00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: watching them and I love baseball, and I woul would 789 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: do it. I just never really got into him. However, 790 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: I will say this, when I look at them, the 791 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 1: way that they play fits more like how I like 792 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: baseball played because they do all the stuff. They move 793 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: people around, they steal bases, they're very aggressive on the 794 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,640 Speaker 1: base pass. I like that kind of baseball. The Dodgers 795 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 1: are kind of this model. Get people on base and 796 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: try and hit the shot. Yeah, it's it's boom or bust, 797 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 1: and it's it's so weird because I said this the 798 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,800 Speaker 1: other night, for Dave Roberts to play the way that 799 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 1: he played, it's weird. To manage a team that doesn't 800 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 1: play any any We're like, yeah, your style, it doesn't 801 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: not even anywhere close to the way that he played. Well, 802 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,600 Speaker 1: that's an organizational decision. It's still it's still kind of 803 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: it's still kind of weird to see because you're like, man, 804 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: you think about the great moments that he have with 805 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: the Red Sox and this team doesn't emulate any of that. No. Well, 806 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,800 Speaker 1: the crazy thing to me, and maybe this is a 807 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,800 Speaker 1: discussion we'll use on another pod. But and kind of 808 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 1: paying attention to the Braves got Lee. They lose, they 809 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: lose their whole outfield, you know, including a Kuna who's 810 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 1: a top five player in baseball. They go out and 811 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 1: trade for three new outfielders. They all fit in and 812 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: they all are playing lights out Like that's hard to 813 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,120 Speaker 1: do to fill three different spots like that with guys 814 00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 1: who kind of fit with the group and then play 815 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: at a high level like that. They just that's their 816 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: gm uh came from the Dodgers. I guess was under Freedman. 817 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,439 Speaker 1: Hats off to him. Man, that's that's that's not easy 818 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: to do. No, and this is always an offseason thing, 819 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 1: but evidently they were a team that was one of 820 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: the last ones to the party when it came to 821 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: embracing the shift and the way that they would shift 822 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 1: to defense. But now they become like one of the 823 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: top third in terms of shift percentages and the way 824 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,279 Speaker 1: they've been able to do it. I do think it's 825 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: one of those things DJ, where we talk about is 826 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: one thing to have a philosophy. It's another thing to 827 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 1: be adaptable within your beliefs and team building. And that 828 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: what they were able to do this year in the 829 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 1: middle of the season, to me, that shows a tremendous 830 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: amount of adaptability in terms of, hey, we're gonna do 831 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: what we need to do to win while staying within 832 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: the framework of what we believe in. So it has 833 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 1: off to them. Even though I hope, well I learned 834 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: my lesson last year, I got crushed on old takes 835 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,799 Speaker 1: exposed because as soon as the Braves went up three one, 836 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: As with all Padre fans, I don't I don't understand 837 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,399 Speaker 1: that part of it. I don't understand. We didn't choose 838 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: the understand this understands. I don't understand celebrating someone else's 839 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: failures when you have if not, if not, we would 840 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: never watch the postseason. Our team doesn't get to the postseason. 841 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 1: But you have you have to hate watch the Dogs. 842 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be so much sweeter, though, if you're ever 843 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: able to get back today, it'd be it's gonna be sweet. 844 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,320 Speaker 1: But you have so much hate in your outlet. I 845 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: need outlet for that frustration. And watching the Dodgers with 846 00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 1: their three million dollar payroll not seal the deal is 847 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: how we That's how we release all that tension. That's 848 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: how we do it. I'm not proud of it. You 849 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: think I like this life. I didn't choose this life. 850 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 1: This life chose me. Man. All right, hope with On 851 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: the next five podcast, we have a chance to talk 852 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: about the Dodgers epic comeback, as we talked about some 853 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: more we might. We might, It wouldn't shock me. Um crazy, 854 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: Um all right, this is fun man again. Check us 855 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,239 Speaker 1: out Thursday night tonight. If you're listening to this on 856 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,200 Speaker 1: a Thursday, uh, Twitch dot Tv, slash move the six, 857 00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: come hang with us. Probably no Dodger talking unless they lose. 858 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 1: Oh man, if they lose during the game, I might 859 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: have to sneak in a couple jobs. If they lose, 860 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to it. Yeah, you can say that, by 861 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: the way, you can say and you're not paying attention 862 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 1: to that baseball game while we're calling that person night 863 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: football game. I can see your computer. Just know that 864 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: I can see it. I see it all right. That's 865 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna do it for us. Everybody appreciate you hanging with 866 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 1: this special shout out to the Build, our producer who's 867 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: the best in the business. No, we works hard to 868 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: Build does a great job, and we forgive him for 869 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 1: his over the top packer fandom. We'll catch you next 870 00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:28,520 Speaker 1: time right here on moving sticks.