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Speaker 1: It wasn't just the Cardinals. Welcome Bird Gang. On Today Show,

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Speaker 1: Danny Surrek joins me. So offenses, more specifically passing offenses.

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Speaker 1: The numbers were down across the league in week one.

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Speaker 1: Now what does that mean moving forward? Probably nothing, but

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Speaker 1: it does show everyone the Cardinals were not alone. But

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Speaker 1: that was last week. This week, Marvin Harrison Junior needs

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Speaker 1: to be more involved and everyone knows it. Also the

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Speaker 1: latest on Jenna Williams, and we discussed how well Mac

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Speaker 1: Wilson Senior looked on Sunday at Cardinals Cover two Episode

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Speaker 1: seven to ninety three, and it starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 1: Buona Baker, What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: He said a ten half of five. He's it again,

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Speaker 1: so more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: Wow, here's Craig Grieler.

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Speaker 1: Certainly do not want to speak for you, Danny, but

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Speaker 1: I for one, am just about done with these triple

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Speaker 1: digit temperatures. It is still over one hundred degrees. It

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Speaker 1: was hot on Wednesday. And yes, I'm complaining here. Even

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Speaker 1: though we're only out there for about what fifteen twenty minutes,

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Speaker 1: it's still fifteen twenty minutes in the sun.

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Speaker 3: Right the quick walk though from the office to my

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Speaker 3: car the other day, I was like, ooh, it's starting

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Speaker 3: we're getting closer, Craig.

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Speaker 1: I look at my phone and look at the weather

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Speaker 1: app a week from today as we speak here on

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Speaker 1: September eleventh, high of eighty nine. Wow, Max Weinsdley drop off.

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Speaker 1: So look, I haven't gone beyond next week. If the

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Speaker 1: heat wave is going to return. But if we are

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Speaker 1: quote unquote done with triple digits here this week, then yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's turn the page and focus on what everyone else

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Speaker 1: can focus on, and that is fall weather and then

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Speaker 1: winter weather. Speaking of turn of the page, I know

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Speaker 1: sometimes week one can be an outlier. In other words, performances,

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Speaker 1: whether team or individual, don't hold up for all seventeen games.

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Speaker 1: And I say this because I read something this morning,

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Speaker 1: credit to Yahoo Sports, and tell me, Danny if this

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Speaker 1: makes you feel any better about the Cardinals and what

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Speaker 1: they did offensively in Buffalo on Sunday. Okay, you're ready,

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Speaker 1: I'm ready, all right here it is. Week one featured

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Speaker 1: the fewest passing yards one hundred and eighty eight point

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Speaker 1: three per team of any week, any opening week this century,

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Speaker 1: so a quarter century here, one hundred and eighty eight

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Speaker 1: one hundred and forty six net passing yards, so offense

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Speaker 1: overall for one game down across the league. I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking about scoring, but just the passing game, because I

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Speaker 1: think that's where a lot of the focus was postgame,

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Speaker 1: and even as we continue here now three days afterwards,

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Speaker 1: game was just not there for Kyler Marien Company.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting. It's hard to really have an answer after

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Speaker 3: I think the wind played a factor. It was the

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Speaker 3: now that doesn't that's not an overarching excuse by any means.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there were definitely some problems that weren't I

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Speaker 3: that stat I feel like after week one just.

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Speaker 1: Because the rest of the league is experienced, and it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's and again there's a lot that goes into that.

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Speaker 1: ready to turn the page. But when you have one game,

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Speaker 3: It's understandable and everyone knows that Harrison is a top

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Speaker 3: There were very few snaps where he had single man coverage,

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Speaker 3: Where again, it's week one, so I'm not gonna say, oh,

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Speaker 3: but if the numbers are showing you that two players

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Speaker 1: And that's something that Kyler acknowledged as well, even brought

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Speaker 1: Junior beat us on this particular day.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it's not just on Harrison, right. Michael Wilson

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Speaker 3: dropped a catch that he should have made. There were

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Speaker 3: but as an offense, they absolutely do need to find

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Speaker 1: The good news is is everyone is on the same

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Speaker 3: But it worked, worked handing the ball to James.

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Speaker 1: It certainly did. You just don't want to see now

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Speaker 3: It's just it's different. At the end of the day. Yes,

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Speaker 3: And I do think that it's it's not worry some

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Speaker 3: You gotta figure some stuff out and they have plenty

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Speaker 1: And Marvin acknowledged Wednesday that he was probably thinking maybe

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Speaker 1: absolutely not. Was it a bad look in week one? Yes,

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Speaker 1: we all acknowledge that. But now let's see what happens

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Speaker 1: Here's where Next Gen Stats had Wilson lining up on

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Speaker 3: Now they just have to go out and do it.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. And the fact that now you've

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Speaker 1: got three straight at State Farm Stadium does it mean anything.

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Speaker 1: Players will say, we're only focused on the game in

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Speaker 1: front of us, But the fact that maybe you can

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Speaker 1: get into a little bit of a routine based and

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Speaker 1: then play in front of some friendly fans, you hope

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Speaker 1: for all three of these games, they quiet down when

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Speaker 1: it's third down, they get excited, and just the juice

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Speaker 1: to the fact that the Bird gang hasn't seen this

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Speaker 1: team at State Farm Stadium since last season, not counting

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Speaker 1: that preseason game, because outside of Marvin Harrison Junior, we

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Speaker 1: saw no starters on the football fields. Are that was

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Speaker 1: for three snaps, and that was for three STAPs year.

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Speaker 1: He had as many preseason snaps as he did regular

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Speaker 1: season targets.

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Speaker 3: In Week one, I thought we were going towards the pat.

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Speaker 1: I got sidetracked to get these numbers.

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Speaker 3: No, it's excited to have three home games and kind

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Speaker 3: of get that season opener and really get rolling into

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Speaker 3: the season. And it's three good opponents. I think the

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Speaker 3: Rams and Detroit and Week three is going to be

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Speaker 3: really exciting, and then Washington bringing in a rookie QB

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Speaker 3: and former head coach and their offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 1: It's unusual the fact that the Cardinals' next two opponents

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Speaker 1: were the two teams that met on Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 1: So on the plane ride back, and I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you did, Danny, probably were doing homework and research

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Speaker 1: for this week's games, but the fact that you hear

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Speaker 1: from a lot of players that, yeah, on the way

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Speaker 1: back from Buffalo, they had Sunday Night football on and one. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're enjoying the game of football. But also you've got

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Speaker 1: the Rams coming into town and then the Lions to

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Speaker 1: follow it. Get a little bit of a head start

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Speaker 1: as far as all right, oh wow, that's what they do.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, okay, that's pay attention to that. And the

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Speaker 1: fact that they were able to watch it together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you get a extra football and overtime,

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Speaker 3: little extra film to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was all the Lions running the football

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Speaker 1: on the Rams. And now you've wonder if you're James

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Speaker 1: Connor looking at that film saying, hey, Drew, hand me

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Speaker 1: the ball off. Instead of six straight touches, how about

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Speaker 1: you give me the ball ten times.

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Speaker 3: In a row. Connor would absolutely do that if that

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Speaker 3: were in the game plan that I was.

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Speaker 1: Not expecting that I had written down here. It was

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Speaker 1: six straight touches. He had four carries and two receptions.

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Speaker 3: Got him off to a hot start.

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Speaker 1: It's part of the script bither way. By the way,

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Speaker 1: speaking of the script, DJ dallis this week's Sideline Exchange

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Speaker 1: very popular player this week because what he accomplished on

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Speaker 1: Sunday goes into the record books as the first player

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Speaker 1: to return a touchdown in this dynamic kickoff return and

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Speaker 1: for the Cardinals, the first to do it return it

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Speaker 1: for return the kickoff for a touchdown since David Johnson

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Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen. But you had a chance to stop him,

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Speaker 1: something the Bills were unable to do on that ninety

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Speaker 1: six yard score.

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Speaker 3: We have pretty crazy. So that game had the first

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Speaker 3: dynamic kickoff return for a touchdown and the first legal

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Speaker 3: play of twelve men on the field because the ball

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Speaker 3: kept blowing off the tee so the Bills twice had

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Speaker 3: to bring a placeholder for kickoff. So that was a,

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Speaker 3: I guess, a historic game in a sense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I got a chance to talk with DJ Dallas, which

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Speaker 3: is great. He's a fun guy to chat with and

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Speaker 3: talking about what he saw and I know the gaps

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Speaker 3: might look big for us in the press box or

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Speaker 3: on TV and not so big for him down there,

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Speaker 3: talking about the power and influence that special teams has

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Speaker 3: now that it hasn't in quite some time given those

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Speaker 3: new rules and the changes there. So yeah, go check

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Speaker 3: it out.

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Speaker 1: It did look like he had a huge running land.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he was touched. And again this is

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Speaker 1: from the vantage point of watching it on TV, but

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Speaker 1: broke a couple of tackles of the forty yard line

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Speaker 1: and then he was just off to the races. But

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Speaker 1: to hear Jeff Rodgers talk about DJ Dallas someone that, hey,

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Speaker 1: twice a year, we saw what this kid could do

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Speaker 1: to us when he was playing with the Seahawks, and

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Speaker 1: how powerful he is with the ball in his hands

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Speaker 1: returning kicks. Now, hasn't had many opportunities to run the

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Speaker 1: football as far as on offense. But if he can

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Speaker 1: do that, I don't know how many more times he's

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Speaker 1: going to score a touchdown on a kickoff return. But

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Speaker 1: if he can consistently give this team better starting field

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Speaker 1: position than the thirty yard line, then that move and

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Speaker 1: that contract pays for itself because you just set up

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Speaker 1: Kyle Murray and company instead of having to go eighty

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Speaker 1: or seventy yards. It's okay, here's a sixty yard drive

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Speaker 1: or a sixty five yard drive. Fewer plays, going back

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Speaker 1: to how we began this, all this entire conversation, fewer

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Speaker 1: plays to get into the end zone means Okay, fewer

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Speaker 1: opportunities to make a mistake.

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Speaker 3: If you have a returner who's putting you in a

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Speaker 3: good field position on a consistent basis, that's a huge advantage.

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Speaker 3: And I was talking to Dallas because Roy he confirmed

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Speaker 3: it when Rogers had said about Dallas he prefers contact,

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Speaker 3: and he just said, yeah, I do. But he said,

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Speaker 3: I'm also I'm also elusive, Like I might not be

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Speaker 3: the fastest guy, but I can be hard to catch.

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Speaker 3: And I think that can really add a little, some special,

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Speaker 3: little extra to this team. And that was proven in

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Speaker 3: that kickoff return.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Jeff had to say about DJ on Monday. Quote.

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Speaker 1: He's a big player with the ball in his hands,

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Speaker 1: and he runs fast. He challenges people. This is someone

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Speaker 1: talking about DJ who does not shy away from the contact. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you always look for that opening rushing lanes because it's

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Speaker 1: easier to get up and down the field. But he's

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Speaker 1: not afraid to hit somebody or even mix it up.

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Speaker 1: I've heard Paul talk about it. Maybe I'm sure you

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Speaker 1: saw it too. In the end the joint practices with

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Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts on how physical he was and he

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Speaker 1: was not shy about trash talking, even in a joint practice.

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Speaker 1: But I think you liked that in someone who's going

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Speaker 1: to be on your special teams. As far as the

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Speaker 1: return game, when you've.

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Speaker 3: Got everyone on the field coming your way, Craig, I

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Speaker 3: want someone who's nasty. I want someone who's thinking, come on,

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Speaker 3: hit me, try and take me down. You can hit me,

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Speaker 3: but you're not going to.

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Speaker 1: Did you hit him at all? Did you try to

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Speaker 1: hit him at all? Okay?

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Speaker 3: I think if I try to hit him, it would

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Speaker 3: cause more pain for me than it would hit him.

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Speaker 1: Not that anyone would want to hit DJ Dallas, but

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Speaker 1: you're interested in meeting DJ saying hello, congratulating him on

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Speaker 1: a first in the NFL, the first kickoff return, first

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Speaker 1: score in this dynamic kickoff format. DJ Dallas is the

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Speaker 1: guest this week on the Big Red Rage Trophy and

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Speaker 1: Chandler is the location. Six pm is the time. If

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Speaker 1: you do miss it or can't get out there to

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Speaker 1: trophy in Chandler Jing, just dial up Arizona Sports ninety

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Speaker 1: eight seven FM because that is where you'll hear both

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Speaker 1: Paul calvic, Ron Wolflee and DJ Dallas as well. So

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Speaker 1: if you can't get out there, you can at least

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Speaker 1: tune in, and then of course it's available via podcast format.

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Speaker 3: And they're shade out there. I know it's gonna be warm,

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Speaker 3: but you can be covered.

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Speaker 1: We just talked about it. They have one more week.

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Speaker 1: We have one. Fingers crossed, Danny, we have one more

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Speaker 1: week if we can get to next Wednesday and it

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Speaker 1: is eighty nine degrees, and then I'm gonna officially say

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Speaker 1: summer is over. Even though it technically is over. It

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Speaker 1: just doesn't reach that in Arizona until it really drops

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Speaker 1: below ninety five on a consistent basis. But yeah, I

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Speaker 1: saw that earlier on Wednesday, and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: this is this is nice, this is good look forward to.

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Speaker 1: This is why we live in Arizona. Absolutely, all right,

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Speaker 1: three straight home games, Danny. All right, buckle up, Okay,

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Speaker 1: buckle up, be ready, bird Gang, buckle up. Game on

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Speaker 1: Sunday is one oh five, kickoff eight thirty. Pregame coverage

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Speaker 1: begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network, and then, of

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Speaker 1: course the best part about pregame, the Arizona Cardinals NFL

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Speaker 1: kickoff show at ten am. Agreed, glad we agree on something.

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Speaker 3: See you there.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, we'll put all it on. This

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Speaker 1: edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hyundai, proud partner

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Speaker 1: of the Arizona Cardinals has always special thanks to our

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Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Amahundro, our associate producer Addy Fincher. For

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Speaker 1: Danny Sirek, I'm Craig rail Loop. We'll talk to you

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Speaker 1: next time here on Cardinals Cover two