WEBVTT - The King of Tears

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin In Nashville, Tennessee. There's a songwriter named Bobby Braddock.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in his seventies, maybe five foot seven, bald head,

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<v Speaker 1>scruffy beard, wiry, like if you messed with them in

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<v Speaker 1>a bar, you'd probably lose. The most striking thing about

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<v Speaker 1>him is his eyes, which are the palest and most

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<v Speaker 1>intense shade of blue. He wears sunglasses a lot, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's almost as if he needs to protect the world

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<v Speaker 1>from that look there. I met him on a music

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<v Speaker 1>row in Nashville. We had lunch, and then we sat

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<v Speaker 1>in one of the writer's rooms in the Sony Building,

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<v Speaker 1>piano in the corner, couches to one side, and he

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<v Speaker 1>talked about his education in the music business.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I always had the reputation as being kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a quirky writer, maybe a little left field.

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<v Speaker 1>The turning point in Braddock's career was a song you've

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<v Speaker 1>probably heard of. It was performed by Tammy Whyne that

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<v Speaker 1>back when she was the reigning Queen of country music

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty eight, about a mom who had to spell

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<v Speaker 1>out the word d I v O rcee so her

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<v Speaker 1>kids wouldn't know their parents were splitting up.

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<v Speaker 2>So D w r C.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote this, did a demo on it, and no tikers,

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<v Speaker 2>nobody did it. Nobody would recorded.

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<v Speaker 1>D I v O RCE was a song with a gimmick.

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<v Speaker 1>Braddick did a lot of gimmicky songs back then. No

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<v Speaker 1>one wanted this one. So Braddick went to a friend

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<v Speaker 1>and longtime collaborator, Curly Putman.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said, well, why haf nobody recording? He said,

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<v Speaker 2>I think around the important part of your song, said,

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<v Speaker 2>sad song, and your melodies on that part is too happy.

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<v Speaker 2>What I was doing was, oh, stop this a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit like a like a soap commercial. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>what would you do? And he gets a guitar and

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<v Speaker 2>he had this really mournful singing style. Tammy Whnette was

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<v Speaker 2>a big fan of Curly singing. She left her singing

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<v Speaker 2>because he had. I mean, he just you singing. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just so sad. It gives a guitar. Oh wish

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<v Speaker 2>we get started this. So I said, just get your guitar.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's let's put it on tape like that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>D I v O r C went to number one.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Bobby Braddock's first great exercise in how to

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<v Speaker 1>make people cry and From then on, things just got sadder.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Malcolm Gladwell. You're listening to Revisionist History,

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<v Speaker 1>my podcast about things overlooked and misunderstood. This episode is

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<v Speaker 1>about something that has never made sense to me. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I'm a Canadian, or maybe Americans puzzle about

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<v Speaker 1>this too. I'm talking about the bright line that divides

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<v Speaker 1>American society, not the color line or the ideological line.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about the sad song rie. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>why people don't talk about this more because it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>For the sake of argument, let's use the rock magazine

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<v Speaker 1>Rolling Stone's list of the best songs of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>the top fifty. These are the critics choices. Hotel California

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<v Speaker 1>by the Eagles comes in up forty nine, which, as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I can tell, is a song about drugs.

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<v Speaker 1>Toutty Fruity by Little Richard at forty three Tuty Fruity,

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<v Speaker 1>which I remind you has as its signature lyric tooty fruity,

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<v Speaker 1>oh ruddy touty fruity, Oh rudy touty fruity, oh rudy

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<v Speaker 1>touty fruity, O rudy wop bop alo Bop a Loop,

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<v Speaker 1>Bam boom, there's Dancing in the Street at forty light,

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<v Speaker 1>My Fire Be My Baby, Nirvana's Smells like Teen Spirit,

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<v Speaker 1>Derek and the dominoes Leyla. There are songs about wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to have sex, songs about having sex, songs about getting high,

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<v Speaker 1>presumably after having sex. Number one song on the list

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<v Speaker 1>like a Rolling Stone by Bob Dylan. Ah, You've gone

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<v Speaker 1>to the finest schools, all right, miss Lonely, But you

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<v Speaker 1>know you only used to get juiced in it. Nobody's

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<v Speaker 1>ever taught you how to live out on the street,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you're gonna have to get used to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a song about someone who dropped out

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<v Speaker 1>of Harvard. The number one rock song of all time

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<v Speaker 1>is about dropping out of Harvard. In all of those

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<v Speaker 1>fifty songs, nobody dies after a long illness, no marriage disintegrates,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody's killed on a battlefield, no mother grieves for a

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<v Speaker 1>so on. The closest that any song in Rolling Stone's

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<v Speaker 1>list comes to being truly sad is Smoky Robinson's Tracks

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<v Speaker 1>of My Tears, which is first of all number fifty.

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<v Speaker 1>So they put the sad song at the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the list. And secondly, it's about a guy at a

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<v Speaker 1>party in their moments of greatest travail. The protagonists of

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<v Speaker 1>rock and roll's sad songs still get to go to parties. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Just turn on a country music station, especially a traditional

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<v Speaker 1>country music station, and listen. It's like a different universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Marriage is going to hell, people staring into their shot

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<v Speaker 1>glass in a honky tonk, people dying young. If you

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard John Prine's Unwed Fathers, it's a devastating bit

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<v Speaker 1>of songwriting about a teenage mom fleeing town. He sings

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<v Speaker 1>it with his wife Rachel.

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<v Speaker 3>Also Wario Bam smoking Mantain.

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<v Speaker 4>She bow. Now all the bad.

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<v Speaker 5>Your daddy meant to hurt you ever, You just don't

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<v Speaker 5>live here, but you got his eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Those last two lines, your daddy never meant to hurt

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<v Speaker 1>you ever. He just don't live here, but you've got

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes.

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<v Speaker 6>That's brutal, black bad dream all on. We fob.

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<v Speaker 1>One half of the country, the rock music part, wants

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<v Speaker 1>their music to be hymns to extra version. The other

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<v Speaker 1>half wants to talk about real life dramas and have

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<v Speaker 1>a good cry. I don't get it, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>you know who wrote that unwed Father's Song with John Prine,

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Braddock, or maybe you've heard this another classic recorded

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<v Speaker 1>by Tammy Whynett Golden.

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<v Speaker 3>Word with a Long Time Long pritaside.

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<v Speaker 1>Loud long bus Golden Ring. It follows a couple from

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<v Speaker 1>first love to the breakup of their marriage by tracing

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<v Speaker 1>the journey of their wedding ring from pawnshop to pawnshop.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a weeper who wrote it, Bobby Braddock, and today,

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<v Speaker 1>forty years after he wrote it, Braddock is still mad

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<v Speaker 1>about a one word change made by the song's producer,

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Cheryl, because that made his song one crucial degree

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<v Speaker 1>less sad.

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<v Speaker 7>But we had.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, you won't admit it, but I know you're

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<v Speaker 2>running around and Billy changed it too. He says, you

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<v Speaker 2>won't admit it, but I know you're leaving town. That's

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<v Speaker 2>not as that's not as powerful as you're running around.

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<v Speaker 7>He says, you won't admit it, but I know you

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<v Speaker 7>leave in town.

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<v Speaker 3>She says one thanks for circ I.

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<v Speaker 8>Don't love you anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>As throws down the ring as she walks out the door.

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<v Speaker 2>I think country music is supposed to be about real life,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And I try to reflect that in bout

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<v Speaker 2>all Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Ring, which brings us to maybe the greatest country

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<v Speaker 1>song of all time, certainly the saddest country song of

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<v Speaker 1>all time, the song that made me get on a

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<v Speaker 1>plane and go to Nashville. It was recorded by the

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<v Speaker 1>great George Jones, one of the half dozen or so

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<v Speaker 1>most iconic figures in the history of country music. You

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<v Speaker 1>just heard him singing in Golden Ring. Jones was famously

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<v Speaker 1>the husband of Tammy Wynett for a time, a hard living,

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<v Speaker 1>dissolute megastar. Once, in the midst of an epic bender,

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<v Speaker 1>jones family took his keys away, so he got on

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<v Speaker 1>his writing mower and drove eight miles to the liquor

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<v Speaker 1>store to get some whiskey. This was a man who

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<v Speaker 1>could pour his fractured heart into his music like no

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<v Speaker 1>one else. A half dozen times in his career, Jones

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<v Speaker 1>found a song truly worthy of his talents, but it

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<v Speaker 1>never got better than he stopped loving her. Today, I

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<v Speaker 1>still remember when I first heard that song, and from

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<v Speaker 1>the day I started thinking about this episode, I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to get it out of my head.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, I'll love you till I die. She told him,

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<v Speaker 3>you forgetting time As the years went slowly by, she

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<v Speaker 3>still prayed.

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<v Speaker 6>Up all his his mind.

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<v Speaker 3>He kept her picture on his wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I need to tell you who wrote that song?

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Braddock? Bobby Braddock is the king of tears.

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<v Speaker 3>But he still loved him through it all, hoping she'd

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<v Speaker 3>come back again.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man. One of the things that got me interested

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<v Speaker 1>in sad songs was a story my sister in law,

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<v Speaker 1>Bev told me. She and my brother live in the

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<v Speaker 1>same area. I grew up in Waterloo County in southern Ontario,

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<v Speaker 1>and a while ago she went to a performance by

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<v Speaker 1>a local chamber choir thirty singers. They sang a cantata

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<v Speaker 1>called Annalise by the British composer James Whitbourne, a choral

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<v Speaker 1>composition which puts the words of n Frank's diary to music.

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<v Speaker 1>I know this seems like a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>digression from country music, but it's a really useful case

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<v Speaker 1>study in understanding why some songs make us cry. The

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<v Speaker 1>performance Bev told me about was on a Sunday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>a free performance at the Public Library, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>very utilitarian, very nineteen sixties building on Queen Street in

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<v Speaker 1>downtown Kitchener. I've been there many times. Waaldwall carpet, that

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<v Speaker 1>old books library smell, which I have to admit, I love.

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<v Speaker 1>How many people are there.

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<v Speaker 9>It's in their main reading room. They've moved around all

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<v Speaker 9>the tables and one hundred one hundred and twentieth full,

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<v Speaker 9>pretty much standing room only.

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<v Speaker 1>Why light?

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<v Speaker 9>As they're singing, I think, why is that also not singing?

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<v Speaker 9>And then I look over and I think somebody else

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<v Speaker 9>as a Frian, I'm not singing. That's odd because everybody

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<v Speaker 9>else in their.

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<v Speaker 10>Parts is singing.

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<v Speaker 9>And I realized they were crying and they couldn't sing.

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<v Speaker 1>Bev says, she cried pretty much through the entire performance.

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<v Speaker 1>She was looking straight ahead because she didn't want people

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<v Speaker 1>to see she was crying. But it didn't matter because

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<v Speaker 1>everyone was crying. When the performance was over, Bev approached

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<v Speaker 1>the stage to talk to the soloist, the woman singing

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<v Speaker 1>Anne Frank's words.

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<v Speaker 9>I just went up to her afterwards and congratulated her

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<v Speaker 9>on the beauty of the piece then and her singing,

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<v Speaker 9>And I said, and how did you manage to sing

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<v Speaker 9>without crying? And she said, well, I couldn't look at Mark,

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<v Speaker 9>the conductor, because he was wiping tears from his eyes,

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<v Speaker 9>and I had my back to the choir, so that

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<v Speaker 9>was good. And I didn't look at anybody in the

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<v Speaker 9>audience because they were crying. So I just looked up

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<v Speaker 9>in the middle distance and I sang, it was a

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<v Speaker 9>good thing. I hadn't memorized.

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<v Speaker 1>I was at home in Canada when Bev told me

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<v Speaker 1>that story, so I called up Mark, the conductor, and

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<v Speaker 1>the soloist, whose name is Natasha. They're actually husband and wife.

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<v Speaker 1>They only live a few minutes away from my brother,

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<v Speaker 1>so they came over. Mark sat at the piano in

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<v Speaker 1>the living room and Natasha stood behind him, and they

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<v Speaker 1>performed one of the pieces from Analyst they did that

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<v Speaker 1>day in the library.

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<v Speaker 10>This is the last movement. It's called Anne's Meditation. I

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<v Speaker 10>see the world, I see the world being slowly turned

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<v Speaker 10>turned into a wilderness.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I realized, this is a crazy question, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>hearing a piece based on the diary of Anne Frank,

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<v Speaker 1>which is one of the most heartbreaking stories from one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most horrific moments in recent history. But why

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<v Speaker 1>was everyone crying that day at the Kitchener library. The

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<v Speaker 1>obvious reason is that the music is beautiful, so is

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<v Speaker 1>Natasha's singing. The performance is also authentic. There's nothing contrived

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<v Speaker 1>about it. It wasn't at Carnegie Hall. People weren't wearing

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<v Speaker 1>suits and evening gowns. They were at the Kitchener Library

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<v Speaker 1>and there's families getting books and kids running around, and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's on stacking chairs with the tables pushed off to

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<v Speaker 1>the side. But here's the most important thing. Annalise is

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<v Speaker 1>specific It's a cantata about the actual experiences of a

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<v Speaker 1>real person. In her own words, Bev says that when

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<v Speaker 1>she cried, she started thinking about her own family, Mennonites,

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<v Speaker 1>who escaped terrible persecution in Russia. Natasha's says that as

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<v Speaker 1>she sang about twelve year old an Frank, she was

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about her own daughter, who was ten and who

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting right next to Bev in the audience. Beauty

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<v Speaker 1>and authenticity can create a mood. They set the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the thing that pushes us over the

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<v Speaker 1>top into tears is details. We cry when melancholy collides

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<v Speaker 1>with specificity, and specificity is not something every genre does well.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild Horses by the Rolling Stones, written by Keith Richards

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<v Speaker 1>and Mick Jagger, It's a song about a conversation a

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<v Speaker 1>man is having with a silent, suffering loved one. The

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<v Speaker 1>story goes that Mick Jagger dreamt up the verses while

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<v Speaker 1>sitting at the bedside of his then girlfriend Mary and Faithful,

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<v Speaker 1>as she recovered from an overdose.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh suffer, Bill, I watched.

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<v Speaker 1>You suffer a dull, aching pain. Now you've decided to

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<v Speaker 1>show me the same. No sweeping exit or off stage

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<v Speaker 1>lines could make me feel bitter or treat you unkind.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild Horses couldn't drag me away. Wild Wild Horses couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>drag me away. Wild Horses was recorded first by the

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<v Speaker 1>legendary Graham Parsons. Not long afterwards, Parsons died of an overdose,

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<v Speaker 1>and his friend in protege, the country music singer Emmy

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<v Speaker 1>Lou Harris, made a song in his memory. She wrote

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<v Speaker 1>it with Bill Danoff. It's called from Boulder to Birmingham.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't want a hee song. I got on the

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<v Speaker 6>zepplin just a flow damn nods below me.

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<v Speaker 9>But all that you can.

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<v Speaker 6>Show me is a premium.

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<v Speaker 5>Mascuy, And I don't only hear he said.

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<v Speaker 9>Story.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone who has suffered a terrible loss has gotten on

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<v Speaker 1>a plane and she's so numbed by grief that she

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<v Speaker 1>can no longer see those around her.

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<v Speaker 6>Blessed time.

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like this.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in the wilderness in.

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<v Speaker 9>The can was on FA.

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<v Speaker 1>From Boulder to Birmingham, and wildhorses are both beautiful melancholy.

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<v Speaker 1>They're about the same thing, the ties the living and

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<v Speaker 1>the healthy have to those in pain. But which is

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<v Speaker 1>the sadder song? I don't think there's any question. Wild

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<v Speaker 1>horses is generic. Listen to how it starts childhood. Living

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<v Speaker 1>is easy to do the things you wanted. I bought

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<v Speaker 1>them for you. Graceless lady, you know who I am.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I can't let you slide through my hands?

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<v Speaker 1>What's going on? Any idea? What is Mickey yammering on about? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Compare that to the specificity of looking down from the

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<v Speaker 1>airplane and seeing nothing but prairie. Then standing on a

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<v Speaker 1>mountain and watching a canyon burn.

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<v Speaker 6>Was our rapsle in the coosm.

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<v Speaker 4>I would hold.

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<v Speaker 6>Any say, race away from all.

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<v Speaker 5>Act I could see.

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<v Speaker 1>First, she references the great black spiritual rock my soul

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<v Speaker 1>in the Bosom of Abraham. The Bosom of Abraham is

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<v Speaker 1>where the righteous dead go while awaiting judgment. Then she sings,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would also walk all the way from Boulder

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<v Speaker 1>to Birmingham. Now she's locating her grief. I would make

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<v Speaker 1>a pilgrimage from progressive, hippie liberal Remember this is nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy three, dope smoking Colorado back to the repressive heart

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<v Speaker 1>of the Old South, just to see your face. Two

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<v Speaker 1>completely different specific images, each with its own set of

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<v Speaker 1>emotional triggers, and she's piled one on top of another.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Vornan, the music director of the choir in my hometown,

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<v Speaker 1>says that there's a part in Annalise that does the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing. Anne is.

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<v Speaker 10>They're in hiding already, and she starts singing, and the

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<v Speaker 10>composer has set these words in kind of a style

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<v Speaker 10>of an American Sousa march, and so she's talking about

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<v Speaker 10>in the bathtub and being scrubbed in the bathtub, and

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<v Speaker 10>it's a SUSA we scrub, scrub, scrub ourselves in the

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<v Speaker 10>tin right, very happy and optimistic music.

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<v Speaker 1>And Frank in the bathtub to the tune of a

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<v Speaker 1>SUSA march with the horrors of the Holocaust outside her door.

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<v Speaker 1>Three absolutely concrete images in merciless combination.

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<v Speaker 10>It just floored me every time I heard it, because

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<v Speaker 10>it was so close to you know, our own daughter,

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<v Speaker 10>you know, to think that she would have to create

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<v Speaker 10>this kind of fiction in order to just get through

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<v Speaker 10>the day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you get tears. You make the story so

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<v Speaker 1>real and the details so sharp, and you add in

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<v Speaker 1>so many emotional triggers that the listener cannot escape. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a risky thing to do, right if you aren't

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<v Speaker 1>a talented composer and you don't do a sensitive rendition

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<v Speaker 1>of those lyrics, they could fall flat, could seem forced,

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<v Speaker 1>even offensive. Far easier just to fall back on the

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<v Speaker 1>blend cliche that wild horses couldn't drag you away. Country

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<v Speaker 1>music makes people cry because it's not afraid to be specific.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, she came to see him one last time,

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<v Speaker 8>and we all wondered if she would, and it kept

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<v Speaker 8>running through my mind.

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<v Speaker 6>At this time.

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Braddock was born in Auburndale, Florida, a little town

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<v Speaker 1>between Tampa and Orlando. His father grew Citrus. They were

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<v Speaker 1>Church of Christ, just about the most fundamentalist of fundamentalist Christians.

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<v Speaker 1>Braddock moved to Nashville in nineteen sixty four, just after

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<v Speaker 1>getting married to seek his fortune in the music business.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote his memoirs a few years ago. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>A Life on Nashville's Music Row. I read it before

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<v Speaker 1>I went to see him, and the best way to

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<v Speaker 1>describe the book is that it's exhausting. I don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>that in a bad way, because I couldn't put it down.

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<v Speaker 1>But so much happens.

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<v Speaker 11>You've lived this incredibly tumultuous, emotionally tumultuous life. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 11>in the book it sounds like the first precipitating event

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<v Speaker 11>is the death of your son. Braddock was touring with

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<v Speaker 11>the country music legend Mardy Robbins at the time. He

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<v Speaker 11>and his wife, Sue had a baby. The child was

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<v Speaker 11>just a few months old when he died.

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<v Speaker 2>Whenever I was in town, not on the road with

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<v Speaker 2>Marty Robbins, every single day we'd buy fresh flowers, go

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<v Speaker 2>put it on it's gray. We were just pathetic.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Sue fight, She cheats on him, he cheats

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<v Speaker 1>on her. They break up, they get back together, they

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<v Speaker 1>have a daughter. The divorce, his ex wife mysteriously vanishes.

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<v Speaker 1>He drinks a lot, gets into fights, owes enormous sums

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<v Speaker 1>to the irs, has a major Boutwood depression, smokes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of pot, lurches from one volcanic event to the next,

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<v Speaker 1>and through it all Braddock writes songs, hundreds of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Your kind of tolerance for emotional volatility seems extraordinary.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess tolerance is probably a pretty good word for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Braddock walks over to the keyboard on the other side

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<v Speaker 1>of the room. He begins to talk about an old

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend named Angela, who committed suicide by driving her car

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<v Speaker 1>into the river.

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<v Speaker 2>When Angela died, her mother took her baby to raise it.

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<v Speaker 2>And she sent me a picture of the little girl

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<v Speaker 2>Angela's when she's about four or five years ago, look

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<v Speaker 2>just like her mom. Picture of her standing out in

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<v Speaker 2>the arm And boy did a number on me, despite

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<v Speaker 2>all the dusts.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote a song about that in twenty minutes. He

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<v Speaker 1>played it for me. Then he played his favorite bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a sad Randy Newman song. He played me a

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<v Speaker 1>heartbreaking song he wrote once after getting up in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the night and passing his lover in the hallway.

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<v Speaker 1>And as he played one weeper after another, I realized

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<v Speaker 1>that the thing I'd said about Braddock's tolerance for emotional volatility,

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<v Speaker 1>tolerance was the wrong word. That was just me projecting

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<v Speaker 1>my uptight Canadian self onto Braddock. But Braddock is from

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<v Speaker 1>the musical side of the United States, where emotion is

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<v Speaker 1>not something to be endured, it's something to be embraced.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point, when cell phones were still analog, you

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<v Speaker 1>could buy a scanner and listen in to other people's conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what Braddock does. He can't help himself. A

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<v Speaker 1>woman complains to her husband for an hour about his

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<v Speaker 1>lack of affection from the parking lot at the grocery store.

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<v Speaker 1>Then ask him what he wants and he says, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Apple Newton's. And then this is my favorite part I'm

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<v Speaker 1>quoting now from Braddock's memoir. The conversation that truly touched

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<v Speaker 1>me was between a man perhaps forty and his mother

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<v Speaker 1>may Bee, late sixties, in which the sun opened up

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<v Speaker 1>about sexual problems he was having with his wife. And

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<v Speaker 1>I envied the sprinkling of profanities and the mother's invitation

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<v Speaker 1>to come over to the house, son, and let's open

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle of whisky and talk about it. Wishing I

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<v Speaker 1>had that kind of easy and open communication with my mom.

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<v Speaker 1>Then learning that the guy's mother was terminally ill with cancer.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're keeping track, that's marital difficulty, sex, profanity, whisky mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and terminal cancer in one conversation, and it truly touched

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<v Speaker 1>him free. Do you know what Braddott's favorite song is

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<v Speaker 1>Vince Gills go Rest High on that Mountain, which Gil

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<v Speaker 1>wrote in memory both of his brother who died young

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<v Speaker 1>of a heart attack and fellow country star Keith Whitley,

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<v Speaker 1>who drank himself to death.

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<v Speaker 2>O on.

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<v Speaker 9>Song you.

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<v Speaker 6>Is dumb, dude, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>When Vince Gill and Ricky Skaggs and Patty Lovelace are

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<v Speaker 2>singing harmony on that thing, I go nuts. It still

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<v Speaker 2>tears me up. Knowing that it's about death, and Vince

0:27:00.356 --> 0:27:03.556
<v Speaker 2>wrote it about Keith Whitley and then about his own brother,

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<v Speaker 2>and just the emotion that sending that song, It's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's just powerful day.

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<v Speaker 6>Left us gathered round agree degree we shock, goody.

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<v Speaker 4>Faces.

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<v Speaker 1>It's heartbreaking. Listening to that song makes me wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>some portion of what we call ideological division in America

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<v Speaker 1>actually isn't ideological at all. How big are the political

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<v Speaker 1>differences between red and blue states anyway, in the grand

0:27:45.956 --> 0:27:49.276
<v Speaker 1>scheme of things, not that big. Maybe what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 1>instead is a difference of emotional opinion, because if your

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<v Speaker 1>principal form of cultural expression has drinking, sex, suicide, heart attacks,

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<v Speaker 1>mom and terminal cancer all on the table for public discussion,

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<v Speaker 1>then the other half of the country is going to

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<v Speaker 1>seem really chilly and uncaring. And if you're from the

0:28:07.196 --> 0:28:10.476
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll half, clinging send me ironically to two

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<v Speaker 1>Dy Fruity O Rudy. When you listen to a song

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<v Speaker 1>written about a guy's brother who died young of a

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<v Speaker 1>heart attack and another guy who drank himself to death,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to think, who are these people? Here's another

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<v Speaker 1>way to think about the sad song line. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>read you the list of the birthplaces of the performers

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<v Speaker 1>of the top twenty country songs of all time Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to use the Rolling Stone magazine list. Ready, Arkansas, Virginia, Alabama, Texas, Mississippi, Mississippi, Georgia, California,

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<v Speaker 1>Central Valley, by the way, not Los Angeles, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Texas, Kentucky, Alabama, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas, Texas, Kentucky, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>I could do the top fifty, or the top one hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>or the top two hundred and you get the same pattern. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot be a successful country singer or songwriter if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not from the South. It's impossible. There's one exception,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the great songwriter Harlan Howard, who was born

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<v Speaker 1>in Detroit, but almost immediately thereafter his family moves to

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<v Speaker 1>a farm in rural Kentucky. It's like the five to

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<v Speaker 1>second roll when you drop a piece of food on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. If it's not on the ground long enough,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't count. As far as I can tell, there

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<v Speaker 1>are no Jews on the country list, almost no Catholics,

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<v Speaker 1>only two black people. It's white Southern Protestants all the

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<v Speaker 1>way down. Now compare that to the rock and roll list.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Jews from Minnesota, black people from Detroit, Catholics

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<v Speaker 1>from New Jersey, middle class British art school dropouts, Canadians, Jamaicans.

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<v Speaker 1>Rock and roll is the rainbow coalition that diversity is

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<v Speaker 1>a good thing. It's why there's so much innovation in

0:30:01.876 --> 0:30:03.996
<v Speaker 1>rock and roll. But you pay a price for that.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a very clever bit of research published recently

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<v Speaker 1>by Colin Morris in the magazine The Pudding. He analyzed

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen thousand popular songs using an algorithm that can presses

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<v Speaker 1>digital files. So if you take out the repetitive bits

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<v Speaker 1>in a song, how much of it is left. Morris's

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<v Speaker 1>big finding is that rock and roll as a genre

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<v Speaker 1>is really, really repetitive. Britney Spears, Lady Gaga, the Beatles,

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<v Speaker 1>If you take out the duplicative parts, their music shrinks

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<v Speaker 1>by sixty percent. That's what happens when everyone is from

0:30:42.196 --> 0:30:46.156
<v Speaker 1>somewhere different. Nobody speaks the same language, so you have

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<v Speaker 1>to use cliche, the same phrases over and over again,

0:30:50.676 --> 0:30:54.036
<v Speaker 1>because if you go deeper or try to get more specific,

0:30:54.476 --> 0:30:58.516
<v Speaker 1>you start to lose people. Country music, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>is not nearly as repetitive. When Morris ran the lyrics

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<v Speaker 1>of popular country singers through his algorithm, they only shrank

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<v Speaker 1>by about forty percent, a third less than the rock

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<v Speaker 1>and roller. Nor is hip hop repetitive, which makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>The birthplaces of everyone on Rolling Stones list of greatest

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<v Speaker 1>rap songs reads like an urban version of the country list. Queens,

0:31:20.836 --> 0:31:25.436
<v Speaker 1>South Central, La Brooklyn, Long Island, South Central Long Beach, Houston, Queens,

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<v Speaker 1>The Bronx, Englewood, New Jersey, The Bronx. Hip Hop and

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<v Speaker 1>country are both tightly knit musical communities. And when you're

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to people who understand your world and your culture

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<v Speaker 1>and your language, you can tell much more complicated stories.

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<v Speaker 1>You can use much more precise imagery, you can lay

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<v Speaker 1>yourself bare because you're among your own. In the book,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like your relationship with Sparky was the one

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<v Speaker 1>that seemed the most creatively fruitful. It was it was

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<v Speaker 1>Sparky was a beautiful blonde from northern Alabama, the great

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<v Speaker 1>love of Bobby Braddock's life. Why was that?

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<v Speaker 2>I think because my family her is so strong. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's sort of a visceral thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's why I found Bobby Braddock's book so exhausting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's because everything is felt, everything is a mountain peak

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<v Speaker 1>and Sparky, Sparky was everest, high altitude infatuation.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the sort of thing that make people go absolutely crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and that was the case with her. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what gets the animal instinct of people maybe who

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<v Speaker 2>haven't evolved as much as they should, and cause them

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<v Speaker 2>to go out and get a gun, blow somebody's brains

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<v Speaker 2>out over some gun. Not being able can't stand the thought,

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<v Speaker 2>or someone you know, having sex with the person that

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<v Speaker 2>he loves.

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<v Speaker 1>Braddick and Sparky were on and off lovers for years.

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<v Speaker 1>It was intense, painful, euphoric. When it ended, Braddock was

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<v Speaker 1>in pieces.

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<v Speaker 3>He kept her picture on the wall.

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<v Speaker 2>Went half crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Now in the that's Braddock in the original demo he

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<v Speaker 1>made of he stopped loving her today.

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<v Speaker 3>He still loved her through it all, hoping she'd come

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<v Speaker 3>back looking.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I'm not sure where it came from. It

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<v Speaker 2>may have come from Sparky, you know, honestly not know

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<v Speaker 2>it would be interesting.

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<v Speaker 9>How could it not?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, if I think it probably, I think it

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<v Speaker 2>probably did. But I just I can't see it. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't see that for any certainty to mar.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll carry him will I felt like Braddick shrink at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, listening to his tangled dreams and then wanting

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<v Speaker 1>to shake him. At the end of the session. It's Sparky.

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<v Speaker 3>Sparky, they found some letters by his bed.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you wrote a song in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the great defining love affair of your life. The relationship ends,

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<v Speaker 1>and you write a song about the heartbreak of that

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<v Speaker 1>a man carries to his grave. I mean, could it

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<v Speaker 1>be more clear?

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<v Speaker 3>I went to see him one last time.

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Braddock wrote, he stopped loving her today With his

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<v Speaker 1>friend Curly in nineteen seventy seven, they took it to

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<v Speaker 1>the singer George Jones. Jones was then at his lowest

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<v Speaker 1>ebb a wreck, strung out on cocaine and whiskey. He

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<v Speaker 1>just checked out of a psychiatric hospital. The great love

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<v Speaker 1>of his life, Tammy Wynette, had embodied her hit song

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<v Speaker 1>Di v O rcee and left him. Jones had just

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<v Speaker 1>nearly shot and killed one of his best friends. The

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<v Speaker 1>heartbroken Bobby Braddock has written a song about a man

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<v Speaker 1>who cannot stop loving a woman, and it's sung by

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<v Speaker 1>the heartbroken George Jones, who I cannot stop loving a woman.

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<v Speaker 3>Get some letters byes Babe.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight.

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<v Speaker 3>In nineteen sixty two, he had underline and red.

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<v Speaker 1>Underlined and read every single I love you, every single

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<v Speaker 1>I love you.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to see him just today. Oh but I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't seen old tears, all dressed up to go away.

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<v Speaker 3>First time I'd seen him smiling you.

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<v Speaker 1>Why did he finally turn his back on his great love?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is this the first time he smiled in years?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's dead? Only death could end his.

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<v Speaker 6>Love it blaster red upon his dog. I'm sung belt Carrier.

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<v Speaker 3>He stopped loving hard today.

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<v Speaker 1>It's totally over the top. Madelin sentimental Kitchie, call it

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<v Speaker 1>whatever you want, just don't fight it. One thing that

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby Braddock told me in Passing that I think about

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<v Speaker 1>a lot is that he thought of the character in

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<v Speaker 1>his song as a bad role model. The man was obsessed.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't let go. But that's the point, right, That's

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<v Speaker 1>why we cry, because the song manages to find beauty

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<v Speaker 1>and even a little bit of grandeur in someone's frailty.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm song belt Carriage.

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<v Speaker 3>He stopped hard today.

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<v Speaker 1>Wild horses please.

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<v Speaker 7>Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Grand

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<v Speaker 7>Ole Opry House, to the celebration of life of George

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<v Speaker 7>Glenn Jones. One of the most important people ever, of

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<v Speaker 7>all time and of any time in the history of

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<v Speaker 7>country music.

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<v Speaker 1>George Jones died in twenty thirteen. Everyone who was anyone

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<v Speaker 1>in country music came to his memorial service. You should

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<v Speaker 1>watch it if you get the chance. It's on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 1>all two hours and forty one minutes of it. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's everything I've been talking about. Vince Gill stands up

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<v Speaker 1>with Patty Lovelace and sings go Rest High in that

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<v Speaker 1>Mountain and breaks down halfway through. Travis Tritt remembers a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation he once had with Chris Christofferson about how they

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<v Speaker 1>expected George Jones to have died years before.

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<v Speaker 12>And I looked at Chris and I made the comment,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, with all the years of hard living that

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<v Speaker 12>George had, who would have ever thought that he would

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<v Speaker 12>outlive Tammy. And Chris looked at me and said, had

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<v Speaker 12>it not been for Nancy, he would not have.

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Jones, George Jones's fourth and final wife, the real

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<v Speaker 1>love of his life, his soulmate and companion. Travis Tritt

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<v Speaker 1>holds out his hand towards Nancy, who's sitting right in

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<v Speaker 1>the front row.

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<v Speaker 12>It many times she's my angel, and she saved my

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<v Speaker 12>life and so we owe you a debt of gratitude.

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<v Speaker 10>For that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then comes the crowning moment of the day, the final performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Alan Jackson strides out onto the stage a big rangy guy,

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<v Speaker 1>craggy features, cowboy boots, jeans, long coat, white statson. He

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<v Speaker 1>looks squarely at Nancy Jones and without introduction, launches into

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<v Speaker 1>he stopped loving her?

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<v Speaker 4>Today, he said, all of you till I die. She

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<v Speaker 4>told him you are good time as years went fool.

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<v Speaker 1>And you realize as he sings, that Braddock's song has

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<v Speaker 1>gotten even more specific. It's no longer about a long

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<v Speaker 1>ago affair. It's about right now. This is the day

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<v Speaker 1>George Jones stopped loving Nancy Jones. Alan Jackson takes off

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<v Speaker 1>his hat and places it over his heart.

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<v Speaker 4>He stopped loving her.

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<v Speaker 6>Today.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you aren't crying, I can't help you.

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<v Speaker 3>Love you, George.

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<v Speaker 7>All the free grades of our time, ladies and gentlemen

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<v Speaker 7>at all time. That's Alan Jackson, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>John.

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<v Speaker 1>Revision's History is produced by Mio Lobel and Jacob Smith,

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<v Speaker 1>with Camille Baptista, Stephanie Daniel, and Siomara Martinez White. Our

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<v Speaker 1>editor is Julia Barton. Lawn Williams is our engineer. Original

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<v Speaker 1>music by Luis Sciarra. Special thanks to Andy Bauers and

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob Weisberger. Panoply, I'm Malcolm gardwe