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Speaker 4: the bye week. I've been watching some horror films. I've
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Speaker 4: so pumped up about my guest, the Great JT. O. Sullivan, who,
Speaker 4: for my money, is the best film analyst right now
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Speaker 4: This is the Draft Time Podcast. Without further ado, my
Speaker 4: guest today, Jto Sullivan, joining me today on the Drive
Speaker 4: Time podcast is the creator of the QB School. I
Speaker 4: wasn't gonna say YouTube channel, but really it's an entire brand.
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Speaker 4: at this point. I believe he can correct me on that.
Speaker 4: When I welcome home in former Frankfurt Galaxy quarterback jt
Speaker 4: os Sullivan.
Speaker 2: JT.
Speaker 4: What's up man graphics?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Yeah, you guys were back in my
Speaker 1: old stopping grounds recently. I love that Frankfurt Stadium.
Speaker 4: It felt too fitting to not bring up on this podcast,
Speaker 4: coming off the heels of that near comeback to victory
Speaker 4: that didn't go our direction. But I was curious to
Speaker 4: ask you just about your time over there. I know
Speaker 4: you had a couple of stints playing in the old
Speaker 4: NFL Europe League, but also just kind of your time
Speaker 4: around the league. How did that compare compared to what
Speaker 4: you know you dealt with in the States playing in
Speaker 4: the NFL.
Speaker 1: Well, it was great for me personally, went over there
Speaker 1: and played well enough both times to kind of stay
Speaker 1: in the league. And you know, as a backup guy
Speaker 1: or a guy who's not a first round guy, you've
Speaker 1: really got to kind of bide your time for your
Speaker 1: opportunity if it ever comes. And so the league, that
Speaker 1: Europe League was great for me because I got a
Speaker 1: chance to play. You know, you get to the point
Speaker 1: in your career as a backup, as a young guy
Speaker 1: where you need to play to get better. And it
Speaker 1: timed out both times for me to be really little
Speaker 1: trampolines in my career. That gave me probably extra years
Speaker 1: in the league. So I'm very thankful for that opportunity.
Speaker 1: I had a blast over there, and I still have
Speaker 1: a bunch of buddies that I played with from over there.
Speaker 4: I know the squad had a good time. I'm over
Speaker 4: there and too with all the not just the players,
Speaker 4: but the entire you know, football support staff and all
Speaker 4: the content team and all that stuff too. So cool
Speaker 4: to get a chance to travel abroad from this league.
Speaker 4: I think Christian Wilkins said he never thought he'd got
Speaker 4: to travel to Germany through football, But last year we
Speaker 4: are in twenty twenty three and things have expanded quite
Speaker 4: a bit. And JT you mentioned the you know, getting
Speaker 4: reps in terms of you know, growing as a young player.
Speaker 4: I think it's a good place to start there with
Speaker 4: the Dolphins quarterback to a tongue Bi loa who every
Speaker 4: time you drop a new episode and I see him
Speaker 4: up there, I get pretty excited about it, and not
Speaker 4: gonna lie. It's a nice little peak in to, you know,
Speaker 4: kind of the explanation to some of the things that
Speaker 4: we think we see in terms of trying to make
Speaker 4: sense of film, as you say yourself, and so I
Speaker 4: know Dolphins fans really appreciate it, but I want to
Speaker 4: start here. You know, with your videos, you talk a
Speaker 4: lot about two things with Tua that you know, I
Speaker 4: don't call myself to an JT. I have always thought
Speaker 4: he had a lot of good skills that go back
Speaker 4: to what he excelled with the Alabama But if you
Speaker 4: were to consult to and on, they would tell you
Speaker 4: anticipation and accuracy are really the the the pillars of
Speaker 4: his game, and obviously, you know, the footwork to kind
Speaker 4: of change the launch points and just the momultiple things
Speaker 4: that he does to put himself in position to succeed.
Speaker 4: I was wondering how you would describe, you know, from
Speaker 4: guy has done this for so long playing and now analyzing,
Speaker 4: how would you describe the delicate balance of being able
Speaker 4: to mirror the drop and the footwork with the timing
Speaker 4: of the route to make that anticipation possible. Because on
Speaker 4: tape it seems like he's seeing it as fast as
Speaker 4: we are evaluating it, but I'm sure it happens a
Speaker 4: lot faster when you're down there on the field.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think you do a really nice job of describing
Speaker 1: it right there. I think the thing that I would
Speaker 1: add on to it is, you know, not only is
Speaker 1: it the anticipation in the accuracy, but it is a
Speaker 1: dance with how they do it. So as the modern
Speaker 1: game evolves in Miami's at the forefront this year, with
Speaker 1: the motion with the horizontal stretch to marry that with
Speaker 1: the play action, so the timing and dance of the
Speaker 1: footwork with the perimeter speed and the down the field
Speaker 1: kind of intermediate chunks that they've been accustomed to just
Speaker 1: making so precise. That's the part that is really kind
Speaker 1: of cut tip of the spear for what the Dolphins
Speaker 1: do offensively that I just love to And really he
Speaker 1: continues to evolve and push the envelope with how well
Speaker 1: he does it and how surgical he is the vast
Speaker 1: majority of the time.
Speaker 4: And you know what you mentioned growth earlier and talking
Speaker 4: about when you were younger in the league and Tua
Speaker 4: coming up, and I guess first couple of years probably
Speaker 4: didn't go as playing the terms of the production and
Speaker 4: just I guess the perception of where he was and
Speaker 4: standing in the NFL. But then you know, Mike McDaniel
Speaker 4: gets here and the offense starts to care and more
Speaker 4: towards his skill set and what he does really well.
Speaker 4: But now we're in this portion of his career where
Speaker 4: he's in the second year of the same system for
Speaker 4: the first time really since high school back in Hawaii.
Speaker 4: When you put him on tape last year compared to
Speaker 4: this year, what do you see that stands out in
Speaker 4: terms of his growth from year one to year two
Speaker 4: under Mike McDaniel.
Speaker 1: Cool I would say the thing that you know, I've
Speaker 1: always been a big fan of Tua. If you go
Speaker 1: back shoot to where I think I have videos probably
Speaker 1: of him playing in college coming out, I was a
Speaker 1: big fan of just what you mentioned. The anticipation and
Speaker 1: accuracy is something that I think translates from Saturday to Sunday.
Speaker 1: And so the thing that I think with Tua that
Speaker 1: for the first couple of years, you know, fighting through
Speaker 1: the different staffs, through the different you know, offensive coaches.
Speaker 1: He also was seemed like he never was quite as
Speaker 1: healthy as maybe he was when he first started going
Speaker 1: in college football, and so now it looks like he's
Speaker 1: not even healthy, but even a better athlete, a little
Speaker 1: bit better moving, a little bit stronger. And so you
Speaker 1: couple that with obviously the health concerns of what happened
Speaker 1: last year, and just the fact that he can move
Speaker 1: and looks more comfortable back there and a little bit
Speaker 1: more dynamic of an athlete to be able to create
Speaker 1: a little bit more and get out of some bad situations.
Speaker 1: I think that has added just another little sprinkle to
Speaker 1: what he's already done and done at a really high level.
Speaker 1: You just want to see it consistently. You want to
Speaker 1: see it travel. You know, you want to see it
Speaker 1: in some bad, rough weather games end of season. But
Speaker 1: I mean, what can you say from when when things
Speaker 1: are looking good and they're out there and he's healthy
Speaker 1: and he's feeling good, they're as fun and as dynamic
Speaker 1: as anybody in the league.
Speaker 4: You mentioned, you know, the athletic ability almost kind of
Speaker 4: being the part of his game that has advanced the most,
Speaker 4: and that almost seems like the converse of how it
Speaker 4: usually works, right, Like I think about someone you know,
Speaker 4: going back to this is going to age me, you
Speaker 4: know on the podcast here, but going back to like
Speaker 4: Ben Roethlisberger in his early days, like he was so
Speaker 4: talented physically, but once he got Todd Haley in his
Speaker 4: corner and had you know, an offensive system that was
Speaker 4: a little more you know, I guess based upon his
Speaker 4: mental aptitude, then he really hit these peak years of
Speaker 4: mass production. But it seems like too has kind of
Speaker 4: been the opposite where he always had that you know,
Speaker 4: mental aptitude, but now the athletic ability, like you talk
Speaker 4: about coming off the hip injury, is starting to catch.
Speaker 2: Up a little bit. Yeah, I think it's one of
Speaker 2: those things that was just unfortunate for Tua. You know
Speaker 2: so much.
Speaker 1: And this is hard for people to get outside the building,
Speaker 1: outside the league. But I think if you asked a
Speaker 1: lot of guys who played, they would say that they
Speaker 1: would agree with me when I say there's a lot
Speaker 1: of luck that goes into your ability to stay healthy. Now, obviously,
Speaker 1: you know the guys who have done it for a
Speaker 1: long time across professional sports, they take it to the
Speaker 1: next level nowadays with they're taking care of their body
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. You're assuming that you're doing that,
Speaker 1: but you still need some luck to be able to
Speaker 1: stay healthy. And if you're not healthy, that time to
Speaker 1: get right is different for everybody, and so there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of patients across professional sports, let alone the NFL,
Speaker 1: and so to go out there and try to battle
Speaker 1: when you're not feeling great, I think there is a testament.
Speaker 1: There is a part of that, especially playing quarterback that
Speaker 1: you're expected to do. But when you're feeling good and
Speaker 1: you're surrounded by talented guys and you're in a system
Speaker 1: with that you're familiar with and people believe in you,
Speaker 1: you can kind of see that kind of surge and
Speaker 1: start to bubble out of two on what he's been doing.
Speaker 4: Dolphins fans know all too well about not having their
Speaker 4: quarterback for the entirety of a season. I mean, I
Speaker 4: just put a tweet on the other day that said
Speaker 4: that this is the first year Dolphins have had their
Speaker 4: starting quarterback start the first nine games of the season
Speaker 4: since twenty sixteen. So it's been a minute they've had
Speaker 4: anybody healthy for the duration of the season. But I
Speaker 4: think one way the Dolphins have help to in that
Speaker 4: Regard has helped himself was getting the football ot of
Speaker 4: his hands quickly. And JT, I want to kind of
Speaker 4: go in the weeds here a little bit talking about
Speaker 4: something that you described so well on your videos that
Speaker 4: I've seen Josh McCown before he got back into the
Speaker 4: league as a quarterbacks coach talk about this with an
Speaker 4: underdog is too us vision and how rare his vision
Speaker 4: is to be able to process the field the way
Speaker 4: he does. And he told a story about being in
Speaker 4: the same quarterback room with Kurt Warner and that was
Speaker 4: when he realized, I'll never see the field the way
Speaker 4: that Kurt did, you know, in the peak of his career.
Speaker 4: And that's not the question here, But I guess maybe
Speaker 4: I want to simplify that for someone who's never played
Speaker 4: the position or the sport, Like, how special is that
Speaker 4: vision to be able to, like I talked about earlier,
Speaker 4: to marry up your throws into those tight zone pockets
Speaker 4: and to see things that maybe other guys can't. Had
Speaker 4: you ever been around a quarterback that saw it in
Speaker 4: a way that you're like, I don't understand what you're
Speaker 4: seeing because I don't have it that way.
Speaker 1: Maybe, I mean, I would say that it is rare
Speaker 1: that a lot of guy, not a lot, what's the
Speaker 1: right word. Many people that come into the league playing quarterback.
Speaker 1: You get to that point in your care where you
Speaker 1: get an opportunity in the league, and sometimes the guys
Speaker 1: who are drafted really high, or maybe maybe the prototypical
Speaker 1: guy in this regard, they just the freaks of freaks,
Speaker 1: you know, And that goes across all the NFL roster.
Speaker 1: But guys who are playing quarterback in the league have
Speaker 1: probably had the strongest arm in their area, been the
Speaker 1: number one guy their whole career, and so you don't
Speaker 1: necessarily have to anticipate, you don't have to be precise
Speaker 1: with your ball location consistently if you're back there running
Speaker 1: around like its recess and just creating all the time.
Speaker 1: You're going to have guys wide open on scrambled drills.
Speaker 1: Where for Tua, I don't think that ever was his game.
Speaker 1: It certainly wasn't his game in college. He had that precision,
Speaker 1: He had that anticipation baked into it. I don't know
Speaker 1: necessarily where he got it. He probably got it from,
Speaker 1: you know, detailed work and being prepared and feeling confident
Speaker 1: in the trust in his own skills to be able
Speaker 1: to let it rip. But when for me personally, when
Speaker 1: I got to the league, it really helped to see
Speaker 1: other people make anticipation throws. Is it's not just in person,
Speaker 1: it's on film. When you're watching tape, you're like, man,
Speaker 1: he lets that thing go, you know, three steps before
Speaker 1: the guy comes out of that post or that comeback
Speaker 1: or that deep shot. And so you can just start
Speaker 1: to experiment with it. And as you're a pro and
Speaker 1: you've got those off seasons at that time to be
Speaker 1: able to master it and fine tune your craft. I
Speaker 1: think some guys lean into that more than others. But
Speaker 1: to his vision, I mean, it's one of those things
Speaker 1: that you know it pops off the film and and
Speaker 1: to your point earlier, they allow him to do that.
Speaker 1: There are some systems where it's very much you know,
Speaker 1: hit the top of your drop, Look here, next, hitch,
Speaker 1: Look here, next, hitch, look here, or when you turn
Speaker 1: on the film and you know I'm not in there
Speaker 1: building at all. But it looks like they give him
Speaker 1: some grace and some freedom even on like first level RPOs,
Speaker 1: which is what I would consider one of the harder
Speaker 1: ones to do, where they allow him to use his
Speaker 1: vision to see what's open and make a decision as
Speaker 1: opposed to have kind of concrete like back in the day,
Speaker 1: you know, pure progression one, two, three, must look here.
Speaker 1: It's more what's the space look like? I know, my guys,
Speaker 1: I know where I can be precise with the ball,
Speaker 1: and allows him to flourish and use that vision like
Speaker 1: really no one else in the league.
Speaker 4: And I think it allows me to play with a
Speaker 4: certain level of confidence too. That's really fun to watch.
Speaker 4: And you know whenever you like pause your video and
Speaker 4: you do the capital A and you underline it and
Speaker 4: you just kind of marvel about when he's letting that
Speaker 4: thing rip and where the receiver is in the route
Speaker 4: at that particular time. It's my favorite thing to watch
Speaker 4: in your entire channel. But the confidence that he is
Speaker 4: required for him to play like that, I feel like
Speaker 4: that has to be not just something that he has internally,
Speaker 4: but something that's maybe reinforcing him. And it takes me
Speaker 4: back to when Mike McDaniel first arrived in Miami and
Speaker 4: he put on like a big seven hundred play clip
Speaker 4: of two of making you know, these big time throws
Speaker 4: that he was a fan of, and he went around
Speaker 4: to the entire building and showed everyone, look at this,
Speaker 4: look at this tape of this guy that plays with
Speaker 4: such high anticipation. Let's go out and get you know,
Speaker 4: play makers on the outside to really maximize that. What
Speaker 4: can that do for a player's confidence? Like, for Tua
Speaker 4: to maximize his game, I feel like he has to
Speaker 4: play that high level of confidence. How much do you
Speaker 4: think that really helped him to just take that to
Speaker 4: another step and really you know, drive that thing in
Speaker 4: there when he has to.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's a it's a huge testament
Speaker 1: to coach McDaniel. I mean, it's one of those things
Speaker 1: where I don't necessarily think that this is unique to
Speaker 1: to in his relationship. I think This is a really
Speaker 1: good example of you know, high level leadership and management
Speaker 1: across sectors where you intentionally and publicly you know, acknowledge
Speaker 1: high level performance.
Speaker 2: And you try to promote it.
Speaker 1: And you can do that by you know, building him
Speaker 1: up internally in the quarterback room, in the team meeting room,
Speaker 1: but you can also do it in the media. You
Speaker 1: can also do it across the in the building, you
Speaker 1: can do it in the hallway, and those types of things,
Speaker 1: you know, resonate especially for a guy. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not pretend I don't know to it at all,
Speaker 1: but I would imagine a guy who you know probably
Speaker 1: wasn't at his peak confidence, you know, when Mike McDaniel
Speaker 1: first got that job, and so he really did you know,
Speaker 1: influence to it to step into this space, and now
Speaker 1: he seems to own as far as being so you know,
Speaker 1: on top of it with his anticipation and leaning into
Speaker 1: his strengths allows him to play, you know, to his
Speaker 1: absolute peak as we move towards it. The other thing
Speaker 1: I would add, and this is just me as a
Speaker 1: fan of quarterback play and TUA, is you know, there's
Speaker 1: this huge elephant in the room as far as we
Speaker 1: need him to stay healthy. We talked about the Dolphins
Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks not staying healthy, but for him, especially especially
Speaker 1: with the concussion, things leaning in too, getting rid of
Speaker 1: the ball and whether it be the quick release or
Speaker 1: how they're doing it with kind of the use of
Speaker 1: motion and the spread element of what they bring to
Speaker 1: the table and how they just seem to collect speed
Speaker 1: with their perimeter players. Allows Ta to just play just
Speaker 1: a little bit faster and lean into kind of protecting
Speaker 1: him and not taking some of those hits off where
Speaker 1: you're kind of like, don't want to be back there, hitch, hitch, hitch,
Speaker 1: you know, waiting on things to open. You lean into
Speaker 1: his strengths, and as kind of a corollary element, he
Speaker 1: gets rid of the ball, he doesn't get hit all
Speaker 1: those types of things that we're trying to to protect him.
Speaker 4: It hasn't even been close this year, man, Like, he
Speaker 4: hasn't even really taken one of those big hits where
Speaker 4: you're like, oh no, it seems like maybe this could
Speaker 4: be one that you know, puts him on his back,
Speaker 4: but the ball comes out so fast, or he just has,
Speaker 4: you know, outlet options, Like there was a play in
Speaker 4: the Germany game where he rolled to his left and
Speaker 4: didn't have his you know, his primary and he came
Speaker 4: back to the far side. He actually got hit for
Speaker 4: a grounding call, which you know, we can you know,
Speaker 4: deliberate that at a different time, but he knew exactly
Speaker 4: where heem moster was to get rid of the football
Speaker 4: and just kind of, you know, basically grounded it that way,
Speaker 4: you know, at Raheem's feet, but got hit for the flag.
Speaker 4: So it seems like there's a good understanding of how
Speaker 4: to get rid of the ball faster as well. So
Speaker 4: it's been really cool for us to see that encouraging
Speaker 4: going forward for sure. Let's go ahead and take a
Speaker 4: quick break right here in my guest today, jto sold
Speaker 4: Over from the Quarterback School. It's the Drive Time podcast,
Speaker 4: your host Travis Wingfield back here for a second number
Speaker 4: two of my special guest today, jtos hold Over from
Speaker 4: the QB School, breaking down all things to and this
Speaker 4: Dolphins offense and JT one more like weird theory I
Speaker 4: have for you here that I wanted to run by,
Speaker 4: you know, former NFL quarterback before I talk about some
Speaker 4: more general Dolphins offensive topics. And you know, I'm sure
Speaker 4: you've seen some of the headlines talking about Miami's victories
Speaker 4: versus the teams they've lost to this year. And I've been,
Speaker 4: you know, putting together different ideas and thoughts and segments
Speaker 4: for the podcast, trying to make sense of what the
Speaker 4: first nine games of the season means. And I went
Speaker 4: back over Tua's career and there was a trip in
Speaker 4: twenty twenty one to London. They lost to the Urban
Speaker 4: Meyer Jacksonville Jaguars, and since that game, they have not
Speaker 4: lost a game that Tua has quarterbacked where they were
Speaker 4: greater than a field goal favorite to win the game.
Speaker 4: And to me, I think the common thread there is
Speaker 4: is to a playing because they've had games against those
Speaker 4: teams without two in the lineup and they've lost those games.
Speaker 4: And my theory JT is that his skill set translates
Speaker 4: to a super high floor in terms of performance. In fact,
Speaker 4: I think there was a stat a couple weeks ago
Speaker 4: before what was the doubt like the Philly game, maybe
Speaker 4: had a low passer rating, and it was he had
Speaker 4: not had a game below ninety passer rating all season long.
Speaker 4: And so my theory is that he his floor of
Speaker 4: a bad game is so high that you find your
Speaker 4: way to victory against these maybe lesser teams in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Are you know, middle of the road teams. I'm curious
Speaker 4: what you think about his floor and how his skills
Speaker 4: translate to, I guess being able to be productive pretty
Speaker 4: much every Sunday.
Speaker 1: I think cutting to what the core of that probably
Speaker 1: is is the the argument that they can't necessarily be
Speaker 1: the premier teams in their conference. And for me, the
Speaker 1: answer to that is, and this is tough in football
Speaker 1: because I used to get pissed at coaches in installs
Speaker 1: about this, but football is a small sample size game,
Speaker 1: and so if you have a small sample size and you,
Speaker 1: you know, go zero for three in that situation, well
Speaker 1: it looks like you're terrible in that but in reality,
Speaker 1: it's just a small in and so it's hard to
Speaker 1: live in that world when you only get to play
Speaker 1: once a week. But that's my take on it. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that they will be fine in
Speaker 1: those games. Not fine, I mean, you have to win
Speaker 1: those games eventually, but I think it's hard to live
Speaker 1: in that world where that's a good enough excuse sometimes,
Speaker 1: but I can remember, like the example I always use
Speaker 1: is in the league, for a long time. I don't
Speaker 1: know how they do it anymore. But the breakdowns that
Speaker 1: you would get would often be off numbers of the
Speaker 1: last four games. So you'd get like your third down
Speaker 1: breakdown and your third and ten plus it would be like, well,
Speaker 1: this team plays Tampa two seventy five percent of the time.
Speaker 1: And you look at the breakdown and there's only four
Speaker 1: snaps in the last four games, and they played three
Speaker 1: snaps of Tampa and one snap is zero, and you're like, well,
Speaker 1: that doesn't really mean they play seventy five percent Tampa
Speaker 1: in that That just means in the last month, that's
Speaker 1: what they did. Because when we go out there and
Speaker 1: our plays are designed for Tampa two and all we
Speaker 1: get is middlefield closed man, we better have some answers,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's stuff like that where it's like
Speaker 1: small sample size distorts reality, and so just trying to
Speaker 1: hold that idea knowing that, hey, it is what it
Speaker 1: is at this point. You know, you hope that you
Speaker 1: play better versus those teams when it matters most, and
Speaker 1: the reality is it's hard to hold that. But most
Speaker 1: good teams, Yes you care about the results, Yes you'd
Speaker 1: love to go seventeen and zero. But you want to
Speaker 1: be playing your best football through Thanksgiving, into the holidays
Speaker 1: and into January, and so just continuing to get better
Speaker 1: at that mindset, you know, is where I think the
Speaker 1: Dolphins need to live.
Speaker 4: It seems like that's been the or it has been
Speaker 4: the message at you know, recent press conferences in the
Speaker 4: bye week, and you know, Tron Arms had took to
Speaker 4: the podium and talked about how there's no waving of confidence.
Speaker 4: Have you ever been around a situation like that where
Speaker 4: you know you're a you're a top of your division,
Speaker 4: you're leading, you know, you're on top of a team
Speaker 4: that I guess was projected and maybe finish ahead of
Speaker 4: you in Buffalo, and you have everything in front of you,
Speaker 4: but yet the perception is that you're not good enough.
Speaker 4: I guess you kind of touch on that with the
Speaker 4: sample sized discussion, and that's a really good tidbit. But
Speaker 4: I'm curious, have you ever seen something like that and
Speaker 4: how does a team internalize that or do you just
Speaker 4: don't even think about it.
Speaker 1: I think in the best case scenario, you hope you
Speaker 1: just put your kind of nose down in work, and
Speaker 1: I think that the coaches can go a long way
Speaker 1: to reinforcing that message. You know, whether it be in meetings,
Speaker 1: individuals at practice, you know what the focuses as far
Speaker 1: as trying to get better. There's a lot of coach
Speaker 1: speaking that, but there's also a lot of truth when
Speaker 1: you look across the landscape of the league and the
Speaker 1: teams that have played their best at the end of
Speaker 1: the year. There is this kind of connection between, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'd love to win in October, but we sure would
Speaker 1: prefer to be playing our best ball and continue to
Speaker 1: get better at the end of the season. And so
Speaker 1: you really do have to balance that. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: being a veteran guy or veteran team or going through
Speaker 1: it a few times, or having some older cats in
Speaker 1: the locker room to be able to lean on to
Speaker 1: give examples of how that's transformed teams over the course
Speaker 1: of the season matters. But you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: one of those things though, when you're in it, when
Speaker 1: you're in the NFL and you're leading, you know, living
Speaker 1: and breathing every single rep, every single game like it's
Speaker 1: your last and that's what you have to do to survive.
Speaker 1: It's hard to take that macro perspective, but that's what
Speaker 1: you know, coaches get paid for, and they have to
Speaker 1: reinforce that message and drive that home and hope that
Speaker 1: you continue to get better over the course of the season,
Speaker 1: because I know I'm sure Dolphins fans would. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: would love to be the best team in September, in October,
Speaker 1: but you'd really prefer to see this offense, this team
Speaker 1: play its absolute best in January. You know, maybe you're
Speaker 1: going to have to go the road, on the road
Speaker 1: in a really tough environment. Does this offense travel? You know,
Speaker 1: those types of things came to a rise to the
Speaker 1: occasion and match one of the best premier quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the league on the road in the playoffs, that type
Speaker 1: of stuff. That's where this will really kind of separate itself.
Speaker 1: And you just hope that you're continuing to build so
Speaker 1: that when you get that opportunity, you're able to take
Speaker 1: advantage of it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I suppose the fortunate part about the schedule so
Speaker 4: far as they have had a few most chances to
Speaker 4: you at least test their metal in those arenas, and
Speaker 4: you know, they've been competitive and closers haven't quite sealed
Speaker 4: the deal yet, but they will get three chances to
Speaker 4: finish the season almost aff a little playoff stretch before
Speaker 4: the playoffs with Dallas Baltimore and Buffalo Baltimore being on
Speaker 4: the road there so some good games coming up on
Speaker 4: the Dolphins schedule in the back end to get their
Speaker 4: defense offense, I think defense is rolling right now a
Speaker 4: little bit. Offense has had a bit of a role here,
Speaker 4: but still on the number one offense across the board.
Speaker 4: And with that in mind, JT. Two more questions for
Speaker 4: you here before I let you go. What's something that
Speaker 4: you look at on tape of this Dolphins offense that
Speaker 4: they have really gotten down, Maybe not perfected or maybe
Speaker 4: close to perfected, But what's something you think they can
Speaker 4: count on the second half of the season just keep
Speaker 4: on churning and hitting their bread and butter.
Speaker 1: I mean, for me, it's it's the health thing, you know,
Speaker 1: It's it's if we can They have to, you know,
Speaker 1: I think you have to intentionally create opportunities for your
Speaker 1: guys to thrive. But you could see I mean, or
Speaker 1: at least I thought watching that game this past weekend Wattle.
Speaker 1: You know, I think McDaniel essentially collects speed and now
Speaker 1: with uh, I'm gonna mispronounce his name because they changed it.
Speaker 1: But a Chanah Wattle not maybe not playing it the
Speaker 1: normal snaps that he has and maybe fighting through some issues.
Speaker 1: You know that that can really impact you know what
Speaker 1: this what the kind of peak of this offense is.
Speaker 1: So you just got to find a way to do
Speaker 1: you like to do you and that that means taking
Speaker 1: advantage of what Tua does. That means doing what they
Speaker 1: do in the run game as far as with the
Speaker 1: horizontal stretch, the RPOs, the zone stuff, and find a
Speaker 1: way to stay healthy and take advantage of what that
Speaker 1: speed does to a defense. The other thing I would
Speaker 1: say about the speed thing just from watching that last
Speaker 1: game and I try to get away from the recency
Speaker 1: bias of it, but man, the Chiefs really got up
Speaker 1: in this in their face a few times. It made
Speaker 1: life difficult at the line of scrimmage on the perimeter,
Speaker 1: and so having an answer for what that looks like
Speaker 1: and it just can't be you know, lining Tyreek up
Speaker 1: in the wing and let him you know, crazy motion
Speaker 1: out of there. They got to find different ways to
Speaker 1: stack and move and maybe incorporate some tempo to be
Speaker 1: able to allow him to kind of not get jacked
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage as much as it seemed
Speaker 1: like he was being impacted.
Speaker 4: You mentioned wadd That's that's a really good point there
Speaker 4: because the Dolphins have had so many games this year
Speaker 4: where either he's been banged up and had to exit
Speaker 4: or an offensive lineman has had to exit midgame. What's
Speaker 4: the challenge of getting up you know, because like, if
Speaker 4: you have a guy you knows down, you can game
Speaker 4: plan the entire week and put in your third down,
Speaker 4: you ris and all that stuff of him and then
Speaker 4: getting number one reps. Right, what's it like to lose
Speaker 4: a key piece in a game. I know Wattle came
Speaker 4: back and played in the game, but there was, like
Speaker 4: you said, Hilly played about fifty four percent of the snap.
Speaker 4: So what does that do to an offense when you
Speaker 4: lose a key guy in game like that?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a challenge. I think that the
Speaker 1: coaches probably will continue to learn from these types of
Speaker 1: things and have things caked in where you know, you
Speaker 1: look across their depth at that position and they're so
Speaker 1: dynamic at the top, right, Like there just isn't speed
Speaker 1: like that with Wattle and Hill anywhere else in the league.
Speaker 1: And then the pieces that they've tried to figure out
Speaker 1: what's next. There to be a little bit more intentional
Speaker 1: to say, hey, Claypool, if you've got to play, we
Speaker 1: need you to be really competent at this and this
Speaker 1: and this and lean into that. And because you know,
Speaker 1: inevitably the season is so long that all these guys
Speaker 1: are going to be asked and forced to contribute, you
Speaker 1: just have to be intentional with having everybody have their
Speaker 1: role their piece, because right now, it looks like when
Speaker 1: they lose a little bit of speed, and this is
Speaker 1: not like a huge intuitive leap, you lose that elite speed,
Speaker 1: everything comes a little bit more down to earth, and
Speaker 1: so just having a plan for what that looks like
Speaker 1: as they continue to kind of make sense of what
Speaker 1: this next few weeks looks like, I think is a
Speaker 1: perfect time to experiment with that. Get more guys involved,
Speaker 1: find out what those guys do well, and then if
Speaker 1: those situations arise, you've got a little bit better plan
Speaker 1: to be able to take advantage of some new opportunities
Speaker 1: for other guys.
Speaker 4: It seem that the bye week kind of came at
Speaker 4: the right time of year for both of points. You
Speaker 4: just made those last two questions I'll finish this JT. Conversely,
Speaker 4: because I love the praise and stuff you do on
Speaker 4: the show is always great, but also you kind of
Speaker 4: give us an idea of where things can get better.
Speaker 4: What do you think is one thing this Dolphins offense
Speaker 4: can do to get better? And have you know number
Speaker 4: one offense passing a number one total offense on what's
Speaker 4: scoring offense?
Speaker 2: Oh man, put me on the spot. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If there's a whole I'll be honest, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If there's a whole lot, we'll take it. I think
Speaker 1: the other thing is to is the teams are going
Speaker 1: to try to get up in the face of the
Speaker 1: speed and jack these cats at the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and so just continuing to evolve what they do pre
Speaker 1: snap and I love what they I mean, they've essentially
Speaker 1: lit the league on fire with that motion that Tyreek
Speaker 1: Hill does going out. You know, it's a little inside
Speaker 1: joke there, but like the idea of you know, continuing
Speaker 1: to lean into the edge of the innovation aspect of
Speaker 1: pre stap movement. What's the next iteration? How can they
Speaker 1: continue to be the tip of the spear with that
Speaker 1: because it gave them such a huge kind of like wait,
Speaker 1: what the hell everyone?
Speaker 2: What is that? Now? Everyone does that? Right?
Speaker 1: Like it's pretty wild, and so what is the next
Speaker 1: iteration of that? Can they continue to be the front
Speaker 1: edge of that? Because I think that stuff is kind
Speaker 1: of what separates them scheme wise when you combine it
Speaker 1: with two strengths and their speed, all those types of
Speaker 1: things together.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm super fire up see what they have with
Speaker 4: a week to self scout and come out of the
Speaker 4: bye week with next shirt. You know, time to prepare
Speaker 4: for a game plan as Alip in the Quarterback School
Speaker 4: on YouTube and across social appreciate your time so much today, man,
Speaker 4: I know you have a busy schedule and the conference
Speaker 4: and time out for us. It's definitely appreciate it. Man,
Speaker 4: Thank you so much for your time.
Speaker 2: Jat Yeah, no problem. I enjoyed it. Travis tick care
Speaker 2: and the.
Speaker 4: Way he goes one last break right there. We'll come
Speaker 4: back on the other side and do the week ten
Speaker 4: game picks. That's next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
Speaker 4: brought to you by Annation. I'm still feeding a little
Speaker 4: bit off of that interview.
Speaker 3: What a great chat.
Speaker 4: That was maybe the best we've had here on the
Speaker 4: Draft Time podcast breaking down this Dolphins offense. Let's go
Speaker 4: ahead and finish up the show here on a Friday
Speaker 4: with the Week ten NFL picks. I am recording this
Speaker 4: at nine to forty four Eastern Time on Thursday the ninth.
Speaker 4: I put the tweet out there for you guys, teasing
Speaker 4: the JT appearance on the podcast here, and also went
Speaker 4: ahead and told you I took Carolina over Chicago on
Speaker 4: Thursday night. Football just swallowed all the air in the room.
Speaker 4: And the reason I'm doing that is because as bad
Speaker 4: as it's been for the Panther offense, and I think
Speaker 4: Bryce Young has struggled, but also hasn't had any help
Speaker 4: in what he's been doing this season, I believe that
Speaker 4: the quarterback on the other side. Do you guys remember
Speaker 4: my takes about Zach Wilson before the Monday night game
Speaker 4: and can we do this again?
Speaker 3: Can we talk about this again?
Speaker 4: Like there are Jets fans that argue that Zach Wilson
Speaker 4: just needs more help or the offensive line has to
Speaker 4: play better. Like if you ever need to understand how
Speaker 4: misguided most fans are about what actually happens at the
Speaker 4: quarterback position.
Speaker 3: On a football field.
Speaker 4: Just go check check out Jets Twitter Like. It doesn't
Speaker 4: take more than a few plays to realize that Zach
Speaker 4: ain't it right. Doesn't take more than three or four snaps.
Speaker 4: The first two snaps of that game on Monday night,
Speaker 4: the overthrow on the speedout, which is like lay up
Speaker 4: built in. You have to hit that one hundred percent
Speaker 4: of the time if you want to play at this level.
Speaker 4: And then the next ball he throws where he's three
Speaker 4: beats late and damn near gets his receiver killed over the.
Speaker 3: Middle of the field.
Speaker 4: It doesn't take long to figure it out if you
Speaker 4: know what you're looking for with that guy. And there
Speaker 4: is like a lengthy debate about whether or not he
Speaker 4: can do it. The kid in Chicago, cool story, Sheppard University,
Speaker 4: all that fun stuff. His parents came to see him
Speaker 4: make his first start against the Chargers on Sunday night.
Speaker 3: Football. Cool man.
Speaker 4: But let's be real here and watch this has a
Speaker 4: chance to age like milk. Because I'm recording this on Thursday.
Speaker 4: This is the Friday Podcast. Maybe he goes off and
Speaker 4: I look so stupid, but I'll take my chances here.
Speaker 4: Panthers on TNF in the Germany game, I'm taking the
Speaker 4: Patriots here, and I'm gonna this is gonna pay me
Speaker 4: to say this. I like Bill Belichick's opportunity to scheme
Speaker 4: up a good game plan. I should say to take
Speaker 4: down Gardner Minshew, who does a great job of winning
Speaker 4: with anticipation. But Belichick, I like the way he defends
Speaker 4: Tua and what he does well. Gardner Minshew's a poor
Speaker 4: man's Tua, So I like Belichick's ability to kind of
Speaker 4: stick it to Gardner Minshew. Go Koog's I'll take the
Speaker 4: Patriots over in Germany, Baltimore and Cleveland like this has
Speaker 4: the chance to be a good spot for the Dolphins
Speaker 4: to pick up some ground on.
Speaker 3: The top teams in the AFC.
Speaker 4: With a potential Ravens loss this week, I'm just not
Speaker 4: seeing it because that Cleveland offense is awful, that quarterback
Speaker 4: is awful. I believe in karma in this sense, and
Speaker 4: it's great to see Ravens over Browns. I'll take the
Speaker 4: Steelers over the Packers. I think I talked about this
Speaker 4: on the Was It the Wednesday podcast about how the
Speaker 4: Packers were probably my biggest miss in terms of preseason
Speaker 4: predictions so far. The Steelers, I can't believe they're over
Speaker 4: five hundred. They are, but I think they're one of
Speaker 4: the ten worst teams in the NFL. But these are
Speaker 4: the games they win. They always win these games, and
Speaker 4: that's why they hover around eight to nine or nine
Speaker 4: and eight every year. Give me Mike Tomlins squad over
Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers. I'll take the Niners over the Jags.
Speaker 4: In fact, that's my pick of the week. It's I
Speaker 4: think it's a three point spread. The Niners are on
Speaker 4: the road, both team's coming off of bye, and this
Speaker 4: is the game the Dolphins fans I think need to
Speaker 4: tune into the most. I don't believe Jacksonville will usurp
Speaker 4: Miami's ultimate position in the AFC standings among division winners,
Speaker 4: because I still believe it's gonna be case Baltimore, Miami,
Speaker 4: and Jacksonville who win the divisions. You want to stay
Speaker 4: out of that four seed because if you get the four,
Speaker 4: you're gonna wind up playing probably Cincinnati or Baltimore, the
Speaker 4: loser of the AFC North battle in that first round.
Speaker 5: And I'm just not all that interested in doing that.
Speaker 4: I'd like to see one of the teams that sneaks
Speaker 4: into the backside, like a Pittsburgh or a Cleveland where
Speaker 4: a Chargers. Give me one of those teams down here
Speaker 4: in South Florida in the second weekend of January.
Speaker 3: So give me San Francisco in a row up over
Speaker 3: the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 4: Give me the Saints over the Vikings. I don't think
Speaker 4: fighting strikes twice there for Josh dobbson company. Although it's
Speaker 4: a great story and the Saints have found a little
Speaker 4: something on offense.
Speaker 5: But that defense is fantastic. Give me the Saints in
Speaker 5: that one. I'll take the Bengals over the Texans, although.
Speaker 4: I'm watching that in my third screen on Sunday on
Speaker 4: the ultimate NFL watching weekend for a Dolphins content careator
Speaker 4: who goes to every game. Now I'll get to sit
Speaker 4: at home watch them games. I will have Bengals and
Speaker 4: Texans up on the screen.
Speaker 5: But give me the Bengals to.
Speaker 3: Win that one.
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna roll here for a few weeks
Speaker 5: in a row.
Speaker 4: Will the Bengals Give me the Bucks over the Titans.
Speaker 4: This is probably the one that I had the most
Speaker 4: consternation over. But the Bucks are at home. I think
Speaker 4: Will Levis has been good so far, but I think
Speaker 4: that team is not good, and I think that the
Speaker 4: quarterback will see a little bit more of a depreciation
Speaker 4: in his production various performances this year from what we
Speaker 4: saw in that first game.
Speaker 3: Because that's typically how it goes rookie quarterbacks. Give me
Speaker 3: the Lions over the Chargers.
Speaker 5: I also had some consternation on this one, but I'm.
Speaker 3: Taking the road team.
Speaker 4: Typically when the Lions travel, if it's outdoors or bad weather,
Speaker 4: I go against them. But Goff likes the friendly confines
Speaker 4: of SOFI Stadium. I think the Chargers are vastly over
Speaker 4: not overrated. I shouldn't say that because and you know,
Speaker 4: Ck Parrot on Twitter or Chris Coffin had a great tweet.
Speaker 3: About how the Chargers are.
Speaker 4: This team that everybody loves to fawn over their quarterback
Speaker 4: justin Herbert so great when they don't score points, when
Speaker 4: he throws for one hundred and thirty yards on thirty
Speaker 4: passing attempts, we talk about how great of a job.
Speaker 5: He did managing the game.
Speaker 4: Gtfh out of here on that one all the way.
Speaker 4: But the funny thing about it is they fawn over
Speaker 4: the quarterback, like Chris mentions, but they don't give Miami
Speaker 4: credit for a valuable win against that team.
Speaker 3: I think that they are being held back by their quarterback.
Speaker 5: Right now, quite frankly.
Speaker 4: So that said, I'll take the Lions on the road
Speaker 4: at the Chargers, although if the Chargers do win, Miami
Speaker 4: has a win over a winning team, so either way,
Speaker 4: I'll take it. But uh, yeah, give me the Lions
Speaker 4: in that one. Let's go Atlanta over Arizona. I really
Speaker 4: wanted to pick Kyler Murray. I just think that the
Speaker 4: operation in Atlanta right now is silly from top to
Speaker 4: bottom in terms of decision making, and you know, not
Speaker 4: throwing the ball to Kyle Pitts and Drake London and
Speaker 4: Bajon Robinson, Like, let's draft these guys and then not
Speaker 4: use it makes a lot of sense. But give me
Speaker 4: the Falcons because I think the Cardinals are awful and
Speaker 4: I'm not taking Kyler Murray and his first game back
Speaker 4: maybe down the road when he shows me he's back
Speaker 4: to normal Cowboys in a romp over the Giants. It's
Speaker 4: a sixteen and a half point spread. Holy Molly, Seahawks
Speaker 4: over the Commanders at home. I think that's pretty self explanatory.
Speaker 3: I really debated on this one.
Speaker 4: Back and forth Jets and Raiders, but I'm taking the
Speaker 4: Jets just because I think.
Speaker 5: That their ability to shut down Aiden O'Connell.
Speaker 4: Will be the biggest mismatch in this entire game, where
Speaker 4: I think Zach.
Speaker 3: Can put you know, ten points on the board and get.
Speaker 5: A nice ten to million win or something.
Speaker 4: And then Buffalo over Denver on Monday night. But I'm
Speaker 4: not like right that off as an automatic win for
Speaker 4: the Bill, but I will take them to.
Speaker 3: Win the game in this spot. So there you go.
Speaker 4: Those are the week ten picks. That's my time on
Speaker 4: the podcast this week. Tomorrow is Saturday, so you're not
Speaker 4: gonna hear from me. However, on Monday, we'll be back
Speaker 4: with the second part of the off season review. The
Speaker 4: defensive side of the football will go under the microscope
Speaker 4: on that one. Plus we'll give you all the updates
Speaker 4: from Monday's media they're at the Baptist Hell Training Complex.
Speaker 4: Plus we'll have Channing Crowder, I believe for the Tuesday episode.
Speaker 4: I think we'll have that podcast recorded by then. I
Speaker 4: can't promise it, but I'm pretty sure I will, so
Speaker 4: I'll keep you posted on that and then Wednesday right
Speaker 4: back to the same old schedule you're used to. Raiders
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