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Please keep in mind that all of my 28 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: guests are anonymous. So let's again this week's episode. So 29 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: when did you find out that you were pregnant? When 30 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 1: I was thirteen years old, I was um. Well, we 31 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: went to my dad, my step mom and step sisters. 32 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: We all went to a trip to Jolliet, Illinois to 33 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: the church convention, and I was sleeping a lot. I 34 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: was very hungry on the bus, but I was afraid 35 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: to get something to eat because I was shocked and 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: so um. I was fall asleep in the church and 37 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: when we made it back, I would fall asleep, be 38 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: sleeping out of time. And my dad said he asked 39 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: me without pregnant. I said no because I didn't know 40 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: I was pregnant. UM, So him and my stepmam they 41 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: took me to the head department and testing me, had 42 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: me tested to see if I was pregnant. The test 43 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: came back positive that I was pregnant, and I did 44 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: not know. I did not know I was pregnant. And 45 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 1: so that's when I found out when I was thirteen 46 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: and taken to the head department and they confirmed it 47 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: that I was pregnant at thirteen. And nobody ever talked 48 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: to you about sex. No, nobody ever talked to me 49 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: about six. I don't recall being talked to about six 50 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 1: because I'm pretty sure if you would have known the 51 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: basis of like sex, I think that you would have 52 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: probably been just a little a little bit more proactive 53 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 1: with like trying to protect yourself. But nobody ever, like, 54 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: how are you supposed to know? You're a kid? Right? 55 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: And nobody's not saying anything to me. Nobody aboudy said anything. 56 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: I didn't even know what an abortion was, right, do 57 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: you think is when I was reading that part in 58 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: the book, do you think that if you would have 59 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: known what it was, and if it would have been 60 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: explained differently to you, that you would have consider it? No, 61 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: Because when they told me I would, I would be 62 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: killing I don't want to kill my baby, no matter what, 63 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 1: No matter with me being a kid or what I 64 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: didn't want to be killing a baby mm hmm. And 65 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: so I just you know, wrote it out, fought it out. 66 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: And there was the only kid in school pregnant in 67 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: sixth grade. The seventh grade, yeah, sixth grade had her 68 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: when I was in seventh grade. Yeah, and this is 69 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: your cousin's husband child. Yes, he was married to my cousin, 70 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: and so he's got kids by her, and he would 71 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: always come to my aunt house, of course, because he's 72 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: in the family. And so the whole time he's watching 73 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 1: me and and just six and I was like, damn, 74 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: that had to be like a very like it just 75 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: had to be a very like overwhelming conversation between you 76 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: and your cousin because you was in a car and 77 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: she was joking like saying that how your door to 78 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: look like her husband, and you just started crying. And 79 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: I just started crying because just started crying like that 80 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: was that was a lot like like you said, how 81 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: I said, she was just joking like, is this you know, 82 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 1: his baby? And I just started crying because it was his. 83 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't know who's the baby that it was. Because 84 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: the man that when I was eleven years old, he 85 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: was still missing and now my cousin husband is missing 86 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: with me, So I didn't I didn't know. Do you 87 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: think she knew deep down inside? That's why she acts 88 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:42,239 Speaker 1: in the joking manner. Yes, I feel like she probably 89 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: knew because the baby looked just like him. But she 90 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: was always um joking and playful and everything. But when 91 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: the baby started walking, my baby, when she started walking 92 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: and everything and bow legged and so yes, is she 93 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: still married to him? She's the sea. She passed away, 94 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 1: lost her only two sons, her only two children, and 95 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: her son was the one that you know from the insists, 96 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: and her daughter was my cousin who was married to 97 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: my daughter's dad. So she lost her two kids who 98 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: a tragic accident. Uh damn, God bless him. And a 99 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: DNA test was done to prove that he's the father 100 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: of your child. And still nothing was done because he 101 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: was thirteen and he was in his thirties. Yes, and 102 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: I had her when I was fourteen, and a DNA 103 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: test was done when I was stipteen because by the 104 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: time she was worn in walking, so she started looking 105 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 1: like him. And so they suggested that a DNA tests 106 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: get done to see if he was the dad, and 107 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: there was he was proven to me the dad I 108 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: didn't even know. I don't read the DNA test. I mean, 109 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, I'm a kid. I should know that. I 110 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 1: shouldn't have to know how to do all this stuff, 111 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,280 Speaker 1: you know when I'm threw in the book. And obviously 112 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna talk bad about your dad, but I 113 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: was just disappointed because I felt like he could have 114 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: did more, because I feel like the way how he 115 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: handled the situation when he felt out you was pregnant 116 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, I just didn't like that. 117 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: Do you wish she would have handled it differently? I 118 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: do wish you would have handled it different I wish 119 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: you would have, you know, stepped up. I wish you 120 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: would have, you know, had something done. It's like he 121 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: just threw you back to the wolf, yes, And I 122 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: feel like, yes, he did throw me back to the 123 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: wolves because there's that's where happening. You know, everything happened there, 124 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: So he just threw me. He just get That's why 125 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: I say I felt like my dad gave up on 126 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: me because no abusely ever happened while I was in 127 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: my dad's here. Um, I was protected and I felt, 128 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, safe in love there you know, but I 129 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: was just I was just failed, and I just felt 130 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: like he gave up on me because these apologizing He said, 131 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: the only reason why he did it because he wanted 132 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: me to be with my siblings, with my family. But 133 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: it's crazy because I was still being with my family, 134 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: um before I got pregnant, So what makes a pregnant 135 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,559 Speaker 1: that you sent me to live with my aunt full time? 136 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: So it ain't up right. They don't make a liquor 137 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: sense at all. So mm hmm. And at the age 138 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: of fourteen, began dating this three year old three year 139 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: old and he started becoming physical abusive towards you. Yes, 140 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: because I don't say I was in a relationship, That's 141 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: what that was. Because I was fourteen and he was 142 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: twenty three years old. He could horse me, manipulated me, 143 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: or whatever he did. I didn't want to be there, 144 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: but I lust my voice my annivals at five, and 145 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know how to say no. Some people say 146 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: just say no, but it's not easy to just say no. 147 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: And also at this point, you're just mentally tired. Oh 148 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: my goodness, yes, you know what I'm saying. Like I 149 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 1: can only imagine like a fourteen year old with a baby. 150 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: I think you had two babies or you're the only 151 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: your way to having a second baby, and you're going 152 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: through all this stuff and you don't have a voice 153 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: like that's exhausting. Yes, that's traumatizing, Y very traumatizing. People 154 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: thought I was stuckled. They said I always had a 155 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: mean mug on my face and food that. But that 156 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: was a reason for everything, all the things that I 157 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: was going through, the abuse, the the rate, the most insists, 158 00:09:54,040 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: but just everything being you know, the domestic violence, being jumped, yeah, 159 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: and taking care of some babies, taking yours the babies 160 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: at fourteen and seven. Things didn't know what I was doing. 161 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: I had them. Another story that broke my heart when 162 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: you was talking about your brother. What do you think 163 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: we're some factors that put a strain on your relationship? Oh, 164 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: me and my brother, that the one that we live, 165 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 1: the one that we h m hmm. I just um, 166 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, us being taken away from our mom and 167 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: and just I just really don't I don't know. I 168 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,559 Speaker 1: don't know because I really want to forsake my brother 169 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: and everything. So I just really don't know. Because I 170 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: know you were saying how like he was hanging out 171 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: with the wrong group of people. Oh, my oldest brother, 172 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: the one that passed away. Yes, yes, yes him. Um, 173 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: but you have two pros and my sister is that 174 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: you and it's two sisters. Well, I have a sister 175 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: and two had two brothers. My oldest brother passed away 176 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: and that's the one you're talking about, the one who 177 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: his grandmother adopted him. Yeah, and I just feel like, 178 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, when he was a little as well, they 179 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: would bring him around to play with us and everything, 180 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: but we were quiet, but you know, my voice was 181 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: stripped because I was happy and playful. But he just 182 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 1: started hanging with the wrong crowd and everything, and they 183 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: turned him. And I felt like how frians turned him 184 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: against his family. It us because we want we really 185 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: didn't you know, we already didn't know each other really 186 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: because we never grew up together. So and when we 187 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: did try on the relationship, his so called friends came 188 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 1: in and turning him against his family and told him 189 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: that they were his family and we were not. We 190 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: were easily you know, we were kids and we were 191 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: just vulnerable and we were manipulated. H and um, it 192 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: just it changed things with me and my brother, and 193 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: I really hate that I allowed, you know, his so 194 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: called friends turning him against us because this relationship, because 195 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: I felt like I still should have you know, pushed 196 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: forward and and being there for my brother. And the 197 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: day he died, I just I felt I blame myself 198 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: because I felt it as though it was my fault 199 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: because I didn't stop my card to give him a ride. 200 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: And I feel like, if I understand, so was he 201 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: outside looking for a ride or something, you just passed 202 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: by him, Well, he was just walking. He was just 203 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: walking up the street. I didn't know he was looking 204 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 1: for a ride. But I didn't stop my car or anything. 205 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: I just kept going and not known I was looking 206 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: for a ride to go somewhere. Because he didn't know 207 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: how to drive. He actually bagged my car up in 208 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: a ditch and they had to pull my car off 209 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: the ditch. So he didn't know how to drive. You know. Um, 210 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: he was in a half all the time. And he 211 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: got out when he turned eighteen and moved out. You 212 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: know how some kids when you're eighteen, you you're ready 213 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: to get out on your own, and so he was 214 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: one and just got caught up. I just felt like, 215 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, I just blamed myself for his death. But 216 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: as years went by, I had to realize it wasn't 217 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: my fault. No, it's not your fault at all. I mean, 218 00:13:54,800 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: everybody's just dealing with that pain differently, right, m Did 219 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: you know that he was doing drugs? No? I did 220 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: not know he was selling drugs. Like he was selling 221 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: drugs and he ended up chewing the eight ball of cocaine. 222 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: He was pulled over by a police and one of 223 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: my aunts boy friend was in the car with him. 224 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: He knew would happened, but he didn't, you know, tell 225 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: anybody until my brother was gone. And you know, God 226 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: had the last day. So maybe if he would have 227 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 1: spoke up sooner, maybe he could They could have pumped 228 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: his stomach or something. Maybe he could have been a 229 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: steal alive. But you know, it's just that was a 230 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: that's trauma to losing my brother. That was a lot 231 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: right there for me. Is it hard for you to 232 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: trust him? Yes? Is it hard for you to trust 233 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: your dad again? You know, I never looked at it 234 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: like that. I just because I want a relationship with 235 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: my dad. I wanted us to do things. But it's 236 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: like it's not there. Yeah, it's like it it's not there. 237 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: So UM, I say, right now, I'm I'm single, I'm 238 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: on my healing journey. I've here been healed from a 239 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: lot of things, but I'm still on my healing journey 240 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: from you know things. What did your healing process look like? 241 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: He said, what did my healing process look like? Mm hmm. 242 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: Like did you go to therapy? No? When UM, I 243 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: would always write every day, I would write in my 244 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: journal my daughter. That was like my healing process. And 245 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: I never because I just started receiving therapy like two 246 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: years ago when I both count to me, that was 247 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: a healing, that was healing. But before then, I never 248 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: received counseling. I never received therapy. I really didn't have 249 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: any friends that I really could talk to. UM. I 250 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: was just boxed in. M hmm. It's just like I 251 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: was just that catapult in that component. I was just 252 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: in that component. But therapy, yes, But I will say, 253 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: find the right therapist, the best for you, because all therapies, 254 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: all therapists are not you know, they're might be good, 255 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 1: but they may not. And to me, I had a 256 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: male therapy and therapist and he was not good for 257 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: me because he started talking about how he was on 258 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: UM lock off, the prig game, and how he had 259 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: to lure women, and that was just I couldn't see 260 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: him anymore. Wait, wait, wait, what happened? My therapist was 261 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: a male therapy and he started talking to me about 262 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: how he was how he eated up getting this role. 263 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: He was on this TV show, right, Love after Prison, 264 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: the lock up I can't think of the name of it, 265 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: but it's like lock up after prison, Love after Prison. 266 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: And he was saying how he would have to, you know, 267 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: have pimp heal letters and write these women and lord, 268 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: these women and this is come to front a therapist, 269 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: and so I couldn't see him. Yeah, girl, can't get 270 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 1: mo worrids out. I couldn't see him any more. I 271 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: instantly started trying to find me up therapist. And I say, 272 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, tell first of all patient of his patient 273 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: that can possibly relate to that story, right, I don't 274 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: know what he got. I mean, I was wondering was 275 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: he really a therapist, because you know, you just don't 276 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: say certain things, some things you just don't say. That's 277 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: too much, Yes, that was too much. And I started 278 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: looking for another therapist this same day, and I told 279 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: him that I just you know, I couldn't. I couldn't 280 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: do it anymore. And you also spoke about being on medication. 281 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: Did you feel like a lot of the therapists recommended 282 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:32,479 Speaker 1: that for you or to you? Yes, And also of 283 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: course the psychiatrists recommended needs to be on different medications 284 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 1: to try this and see what worked to me, but 285 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: for what medication for depression, anxiety, nightmares, flashbag and PTSD. 286 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: So I feel like all that came from my trauma, 287 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: that of all the trauma that I've endured, which are 288 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: mental illnesses and things like that. But um, I say, 289 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: medication doesn't help me. Medicine works for stone people. So 290 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, I have nothing against medication, but I just 291 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: trust God. I believe in God, and I say he's 292 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 1: my my medication, he's my therapist. And I still I'm 293 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 1: still in therapy, and um, I just trust God through 294 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:31,120 Speaker 1: it all. And I know that you believe in God. 295 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: But was there ever a time when you struggle with 296 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: your faith? Yes, that was a lot of times because 297 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: I was questioning, like why me. I would always look 298 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 1: in the mirror and say, you know, why is this 299 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: happening to me? I would always say, I'm ugly, why 300 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: is all these things? Why are these things happening to 301 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: this ugly girl? Why this? And I had like very 302 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: bad at low self stating I had a big dat teeth. 303 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: I had very you know, all I wanted for Christmas 304 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: was just a pair of braces to get my smile. 305 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: Just I was literally stick my finger in between my 306 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: teeth and say, one day you're gonna have pretty teeth. Yeah. 307 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: I when I read that, because I think you said 308 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 1: you wrote a letter to your dad asked them for 309 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: braces for Christmas. Yes, that's all I wanted, I was 310 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: just like, oh my God, like this is like yes, girl, girl. 311 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 1: I was just like all this girl wanted some embracest 312 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: some braces, and Medicaid paid for the braces. Nothing was 313 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: coming out of his pocket. So I had to wait 314 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: till I turned eighteen years old and go to the 315 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: orthodonist and they trusted me and I paid my braces 316 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: out a year early. I did it myself, but I 317 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: had to wait all those years. Though I never smiled, 318 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: I never talked to people in school, I never I 319 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: missed um so much in life. Right, So how did 320 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: you use your pain to find your purpose? I used 321 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: my pain to find my purpose. I turned just all 322 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: that pain that I've gone through, and when I was 323 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: given the opportunity to break silence back in July July third, 324 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:31,959 Speaker 1: two thousand, twenties, two thousands, I found my purpose. I 325 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: found my power. I found my voice, and from that 326 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: moment that was my power. And in my voice back 327 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: that inner voice that hain't been trapped for twenty seven years, 328 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: I found it. And so that's why my is called 329 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: my pain is my Power because the pain, all that pain, 330 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: now it's power. And I don't know if you've seen 331 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: the cover, but the little girl, the girl, a little 332 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: girl went through, that little girl want through so much pain, 333 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: and that grown woman has proclaimed her power. So I'm 334 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: doing this for that little girl and other women and 335 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: children because you have to talk to your inner self, 336 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: you have to hear you, you have to get the 337 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: help that you need because that girl, yes, has been 338 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 1: wounded for so long. That's a fact. I'm just curious, 339 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: when your siblings read the book or hear more about 340 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: your story, what do they think, Like was there were 341 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: they in similar situations? Or like where was the response? Well, 342 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: they feel some type of way. My sister actually posted 343 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: a status about my book on Facebook. She never read 344 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: my book. But um said that my book should be 345 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: called The Lives with Hell in the secrets we keep 346 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: we don't have a good relationship. I want a relationship 347 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: with my sister and but we Um, we've been talking lately. 348 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: But that's what she said. And she only said that 349 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 1: one of her sisters said her on her dad's side, 350 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: and so I guess she felt like she had to 351 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: say it too. And my brother felt some type of 352 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: way about my book. Um. I actually had to go 353 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: in there and re edit my book to take some 354 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: parts out of about him because he was HI didn't 355 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: feel me sharing, you know, his story, and so I 356 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: just had to re edit some things and remove some 357 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:38,439 Speaker 1: things out of the book. And but me and my brother, 358 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: we have a relationship and I want to keep it 359 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: that way. So I didn't want to, you know, with 360 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 1: him because of you know, my story, my book and 361 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:54,439 Speaker 1: things like that. And right, a lot of my some 362 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: of my family feels some type of way. They feel 363 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: as though I'm blaming my aunts. I'm not giving her 364 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: any crety. I thank her for taking me in, you know, 365 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: I thank her, But you know, I just say that 366 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 1: proof was there, and a lot of situations in Like 367 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: you said, what if you would have received the therapy, 368 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: the counseling when you could have gotten it? M hm. 369 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: And what's your relationship like with your mom? Now? Uh, 370 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: we have a We really don't have a relationship. My 371 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: mom really don't talk to me. Um. She lives with me, 372 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: but she's just kind of quiet and just to herself. 373 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 1: Why she don't talk to you? She said, she don't 374 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: know what to say to me. She talked to my 375 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: sister and my brother, and I mean, it's just like 376 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: I want a relationship with part of my family, but 377 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: it's not there. Mm hmmm. Do you feel like she's 378 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 1: just do you feel like she feels um, like the 379 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: guilt like like I don't know, I guess because you're 380 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: speaking on sharing your story and stuff that makes her 381 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 1: look a certain way. I don't know what to believe 382 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: you or what to feel. Um, Honestly, I just don't know. 383 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: She just said that she don't know how to you know, 384 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: communicate with me, don't know what to say to me. 385 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: But like I said, she talked to my brother my 386 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: sister just fine. But she lived with you and she 387 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,880 Speaker 1: lived with me, right, So we really just you know, 388 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: don't talk mm hmm. Well, if that's one thing you 389 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: would like people to get from your story, what would 390 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: that be? To know that you have a voice, and 391 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: to know that you can speak up and that you 392 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: can speak out, and to know that I know you 393 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: said one thing, but I have three things and if 394 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: nobody else believe you, I believe you. And to know 395 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: that there's hope and that there's beauty on the other 396 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: side where I always say that. Yeah, I'm just curious 397 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: what's next for you? What you have planning, because I 398 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: I definitely want to support you. You know, Um, all 399 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,399 Speaker 1: of my guests are anonymous, but you know, with certain stories, 400 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: especially especially with those who have services and products and stuff, 401 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: I have definitely go hard for to support and your 402 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: book is definitely gonna be one of those I'm gonna 403 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: be promoting. So what's next for you when you have 404 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 1: planning for yourself? Because I know you want to get 405 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: into like doing more speaking gigs. Yes, EPARs, I want 406 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: to say thank you, thank you again for the opportunity, 407 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: and um, what's next? I am launching my podcast, my 408 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: podcast with Lunch at the first of this year, two 409 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 1: thousand twenty two, and so well, I don't have to 410 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: get on it, and so oh my goodness, I'm no, no, no, 411 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: take your time, don't listen. I mean obviously, don't take 412 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: your time to try to make it perfect. Just put 413 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: it out there and it will get perfect. Because I 414 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: think a lot of times beget in our way, and 415 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: I think your story is so powerful and so inspiring. 416 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: More young girls, especially girls that look like us, need 417 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: to hear it. So don't take too long. Yes, So 418 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: that's what I'm working on. That's what I'm working on, 419 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: and I am a gonna be a co author in 420 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,919 Speaker 1: two other books that will be coming out soon, and 421 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: just doing more speaking engagements. And I've been invited to 422 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: go to Paris to speak. Okay, now come on, now, 423 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: it was a free trip, now I'm telling you, yes, 424 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: maybe it was the reason why I took for You're Nasty. 425 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: So I've always said one day I go there. So um, 426 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: I look forward to going to UM France and October 427 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: this year and just traveling and doing more speaking and 428 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,239 Speaker 1: teaching training, educating others on the importance of you know, 429 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: raising awareness and advocating on sexual assault, domestic violence, trauma 430 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: period and to know self care, to love yourself. Mm hmm. Yeah, 431 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: I just self character you look like because I thought 432 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: you probably have to, like, you know, re learn yourself 433 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: and like figure out things or did you have to 434 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: figure out things that you like and like things that 435 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,479 Speaker 1: you like? What do I want to do? Yes? And 436 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm actecting it out now. I am actually figuring that 437 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: out now. And because I tend to do things for 438 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 1: everybody else, but don't take our time for myself. I 439 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: mean you, that's how you was pretty much raised, right, 440 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: and you have kids, So like, what are some things 441 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: you'd like to do for yourself? I like to go too. 442 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: I like to go get a pedicure, manicure and those 443 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: the spa. Yeah, you have to go on together, yes, 444 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: especially if it's free child That's right, That's right. So 445 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: those are simple things I like to do, you know, 446 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: just like singing. Oh yeah right, I ain't gonna say 447 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: I can say what I like to don't do it. 448 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, well I definitely have a few things in store, 449 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: and you would definitely be one of those guests that 450 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: I will be reaching back to because you know, your 451 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: story was just and it was just why it really 452 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: made me, just made me want to do more for 453 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: her little brownies. Out there do more than what I 454 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: already do. So I really do appreciate you. You're welcome me, 455 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: and yes, so it's there. It is so important, and 456 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: it's time for us to speak up and to speak 457 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: out and be the voice. Yes, that's a fact. That's 458 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: one of the main reasons why I create the podcast 459 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: because I'm like, there's just so many, so much stuff 460 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: that we go through as women, especially black women or 461 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: women of color, and you know, I like it needed 462 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 1: to be a platform what women can just get their 463 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: ship off and just beat beat their truth right, speak 464 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: your truth, let this stuff out, let it out, let 465 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: it out. So and I was gonna saying, who cares 466 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: if they get mad, the naysayers, the family members, that's 467 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: something they have to deal with. We dealt with this 468 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: stuff for too long or you ain't never lie about 469 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: that's us. Well, if y'all have any questions, comments, or 470 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: concerns from my guests or you want to say hey girl, hey, 471 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: please make sure to email me at hello at the 472 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: PhD podcast dot com. To my guests, thank you so much. 473 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,239 Speaker 1: I really do appreciate you and we would definitely be 474 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: in touch and until next time, everyone later, Thank you 475 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: you kin't gonna say bye bye. Yeah, I have a 476 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: good day. Thank you so much, Yes, thank you