Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we talked team
Speaker 1: bonding and going away to training camp. Isn't important idiots,
Speaker 1: yes or no?
Speaker 2: The pads are on.
Speaker 1: We got some great stories there and that breeds competition
Speaker 1: in training camp.
Speaker 2: Who's going to make the roster?
Speaker 1: That all starts right now. But first we got a
Speaker 1: bake off and we got a special challenger, Fred.
Speaker 2: Don't drop that.
Speaker 1: Yell, okay, don't drop it.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Pulsen here
Speaker 1: with Fred Smoot and Santana Moss and Fred. We had
Speaker 1: a big deal yesterday, big deal on Get Loud. Yeah
Speaker 1: we did hear it was the loudest Get Loud of
Speaker 1: all time.
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, anytime you invite Lenda Fletch and
Speaker 3: they got this, they got this brotherhood, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, similar towels did they gonna ride.
Speaker 2: For each other? So it was fun.
Speaker 4: It was one of the loudest Get Loud. We don't
Speaker 4: be telling me. They got on you a lot, and
Speaker 4: then on totally.
Speaker 2: They got on me, but you don't tell. I ain't
Speaker 2: got no feelings so they can't hurt it. So fine.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, because you do seem very
Speaker 1: competitive with Sean specifically, Yes, we Why is that.
Speaker 3: Because me and Shun just been it's kind of a
Speaker 3: ying to my yang, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 3: we just we always been like that. And Shun as
Speaker 3: loud as I am. Shun is very chill when he talking,
Speaker 3: when he's singing Zingers, So it's it works.
Speaker 2: It works because no.
Speaker 3: Matter how much trash I talked to him, it seemed
Speaker 3: to never get to it.
Speaker 2: Sean cuts Fred any different way.
Speaker 1: You've been around it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm around her a lot.
Speaker 4: So But the one thing I can say that we have,
Speaker 4: or Fred can have over Sean if he ever use it,
Speaker 4: it would be probably it will probably be detrimental to
Speaker 4: Sean is.
Speaker 1: The nuclear option.
Speaker 2: He ever uses. I always see him saving him. I'll
Speaker 2: be like one thing he says, there's one thing that
Speaker 2: would just kill all that all that pressure he brings
Speaker 2: that Fred.
Speaker 1: But you know, we'll keep that, We'll keep that off rerecorty.
Speaker 1: But it also I feel like this is so you
Speaker 1: and Sean really hyper competitive. You see that on the
Speaker 1: podcast scale out podcast. Definitely check it out. And then
Speaker 1: it feels like it feels like Fletcher is kind of
Speaker 1: like the big brother a little bit.
Speaker 3: He's the big brother that the live brother just just
Speaker 3: keep trying to get him to fight you or something. Now,
Speaker 3: you know what what people need to understand is I'm
Speaker 3: on the one man mission to make sure this man
Speaker 3: get to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: This is my thing when.
Speaker 1: He says that. But like last night, you texted or
Speaker 1: something about how fletcherul be in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: like you're in it, Like you're either one to do.
Speaker 2: It and I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna try to work with Kayla k and a
Speaker 3: couple of people over here just to keep putting stuff
Speaker 3: out there, because one thing about the Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: is if they forget about you, and that new theme
Speaker 3: pop up is now they push you to.
Speaker 2: The back burden.
Speaker 3: But as much as I give Flitch, I love Flitch
Speaker 3: dud I do.
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, I give him his
Speaker 2: just due too. I appreciate him as a person.
Speaker 1: So obviously that's a great show. And Tanny, you've you've
Speaker 1: had a front row seat to all this this mess talking.
Speaker 2: You're me and you both I just sit there and
Speaker 2: that is crazy. Sometime I might throw a couple of
Speaker 2: nuggets in there.
Speaker 4: But you know, it's crazy because I don't get we
Speaker 4: don't have we didn't have too many care just in
Speaker 4: the offensive room.
Speaker 2: I think the offensive room have to be a little
Speaker 2: more doubt in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can just imagine what y'all doing over the
Speaker 4: defense room is just full of of think about us.
Speaker 4: We're looking at how can we move this ball? They're
Speaker 4: looking at We just gonna react.
Speaker 1: No, No, we scrolls like that like that story you know
Speaker 1: we were talking about. We had a group text where
Speaker 1: like you it was like you missing a tackle on
Speaker 1: Brandon Jacobs said something like that. But the met the
Speaker 1: story you told about the meeting afterwards was hilarious.
Speaker 2: Yes, because this is what we like. The one thing
Speaker 2: about the defensive mean room. The worst day is the
Speaker 2: day after, you know, the day after you watch the field.
Speaker 1: It's tough.
Speaker 2: I could have had five picks. They ain't gonna even
Speaker 2: They're gonna fan forward it right right to when I'm
Speaker 2: getting rand over by brand and Smooth. What happened right.
Speaker 3: Here when I tried to go in with them show
Speaker 3: but he took it with it for like six yor
Speaker 3: french Wood.
Speaker 4: Was you but see, that's one that's one part of it.
Speaker 4: I think what amuses me the most is the conversations
Speaker 4: on the field before things playing out there, like Fred.
Speaker 2: It seemed to me Fred was always warning them when
Speaker 2: something was to go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what he said, Sean. He was like, hey, Sean,
Speaker 1: like someone's about to die. No.
Speaker 2: It was the first play of the game.
Speaker 3: We're going against the giants, and I just looked at
Speaker 3: they huddled because you know, we hud up. Y'all huddle up,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, they are giants.
Speaker 2: Shocky is six six, he like six five, Brandon Jacob
Speaker 2: sixty four, Plexico six.
Speaker 3: Sex protect you yourself, somebody gonna get hurt.
Speaker 2: And guess what three plays later, run hurt something.
Speaker 3: I told you they were going down, Like I think
Speaker 3: I always brought just that regular person feel to it,
Speaker 3: and I think this what it was a thousand man
Speaker 3: like we are human beings while everybody else think we
Speaker 3: need ladiators and watch us. I've been in Green Bay
Speaker 3: and it was one degrees and I'm like, you know,
Speaker 3: I need a new job, Like I should have chose something.
Speaker 1: I used my brain so that that's obviously an awesome
Speaker 1: show and and something else we're doing is REALM live
Speaker 1: shows where you can watch training camp and obviously the
Speaker 1: production team's done a great job with that, and we've
Speaker 1: selected the comment of the day, maybe the comment of
Speaker 1: the year.
Speaker 2: I want to hear.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. Jason just texted me. He texted me
Speaker 1: when it came out. This was the first live show
Speaker 1: he did, and it is so fan comments. Okay, elite comment.
Speaker 1: I don't know who did it. We'd give you a
Speaker 1: shout out, but I forgot who it is. Okay. Fred
Speaker 1: was sweating waiting from having to speak, and to me,
Speaker 1: that is so that is such a deep comprehensive burn,
Speaker 1: you know, because it's commenting on your sweating and the
Speaker 1: fact you're always talking.
Speaker 3: And now, no, have you watched Key and Peel when
Speaker 3: they got there little when he that's who they were
Speaker 3: reminded me of, because yes, man, when he's.
Speaker 2: Like success on there, there's a lot of people he's
Speaker 2: like success.
Speaker 3: On it, and I'm like, damn, Logan, don't talk for
Speaker 3: five minutes, and you know what talk about.
Speaker 2: Ten on Once he gets started, you know, going interrupt
Speaker 2: you and let me just gonna sit there and not
Speaker 2: his head. The whole task. So yeah, wait too long.
Speaker 1: It has been a lot of fun. But Fred did
Speaker 1: have to wait a long time.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I don't like Wait you think that was
Speaker 4: I think that was done purposely to keep Ryan knew
Speaker 4: something like Ryan was like, you know, well, let's just
Speaker 4: get ten people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, company people didn't never play football.
Speaker 1: Was just some fans up there to take it out.
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Speaker 1: the meantime, we've got training camp. It's happening. Dan Quinn's here,
Speaker 1: everybody's here. It's been a lot of fun to talk about.
Speaker 1: And one of the things that's come up in a
Speaker 1: couple of pressors is team bonding and how the team
Speaker 1: feels a little bit more connected. And one of the
Speaker 1: stories that I think kind of shows that or maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit more dialed in, is that story that
Speaker 1: Dan told about Big Phil how he met Yeah, the
Speaker 1: day was came, yeah, thank you came today to report
Speaker 1: he missed his flight or flight got delayed. He had
Speaker 1: to drive to a different airport, get on a flight,
Speaker 1: get here, make sure he's on time. Kind of showing
Speaker 1: he's locked in. Kind of feels a little bit more
Speaker 1: urgent than it did last year.
Speaker 2: Was it doing the glitch?
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean.
Speaker 3: I was traveling doing the glitch and I had to
Speaker 3: figure it out too, did you.
Speaker 2: I was in Chicago.
Speaker 3: First thing I did when they said, hey, flight's gonna
Speaker 3: be uh changed, I was like, guess what, go get
Speaker 3: the rental.
Speaker 2: I got your wheels. I drove back.
Speaker 1: You drove back from Chicago? What is it like thirteen hours?
Speaker 2: No, it was like nine hours. It was such a
Speaker 2: good Yeah, it was such a good ride.
Speaker 3: Got to watch the Great Lakes on on the lift
Speaker 3: the whole way through uh Indiana, Ohio. You know, I
Speaker 3: like the soaky in thing. It was great, man, No,
Speaker 3: probably for Darien was probably right behind me.
Speaker 1: And I know, yeah, you know I flew during the
Speaker 1: glitch too, Yeah, and I was all worried. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to get to lay. I was in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I want to be in Buffalo.
Speaker 2: Cases to Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I was doing I was doing. I was doing work
Speaker 1: up there. But so I went up there and I
Speaker 1: came to the airport there like your flights on time,
Speaker 1: and I was like great. So I went to the gate.
Speaker 1: Every screen is dead, completely black, and I was like,
Speaker 1: probably not leaving from this place. And as a dude
Speaker 1: there just some ran I thought it was a janitor
Speaker 1: Sansur He's like, oh, hey, you're checking in at gate
Speaker 1: twenty six, which was like twenty gates down. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're walking back. So we walked down. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: guy there checking people in on our flight. We walked
Speaker 1: back and I was like, this is totally well, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like it's a disas, Yeah, disaster.
Speaker 1: But anyway, So I think one of the things about
Speaker 1: Big Phil doing that it shows like again maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit more urgency from him, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like he's in it. Yeah, right exactly, And I think
Speaker 1: that that's super important, right, is to get guys where
Speaker 1: it means something more than it has the last couple
Speaker 1: of times.
Speaker 3: Many means necessarey, Like that's what a team means. How
Speaker 3: we gonna beat this next team by any means necessarey
Speaker 3: as we feel.
Speaker 2: C You know what, flight, no problem. I'll get a
Speaker 2: horse and ride to d C.
Speaker 1: Could you imagine he came on a horse, big fill
Speaker 1: on a horse at poor.
Speaker 2: Horse, poor hoyse.
Speaker 4: Look, you also have to think about it too, when
Speaker 4: when things on the line down the road and maybe
Speaker 4: you have to pick from a guy and feel the
Speaker 4: coach would think backstay this guy. But yeah, yeah, make
Speaker 4: it a practice to make sure he was here. So
Speaker 4: you know, stuff like that always counts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. And I had a story my rookie year
Speaker 1: was for training camp. Excuse me, and you know, like
Speaker 1: I came went to the airport. I'm flying from California,
Speaker 1: flying from Lax. Went into the airport. The flight got delayed.
Speaker 1: My parents were out of town for whatever reason. So
Speaker 1: I called my girlfriend. I said, hey, can you come
Speaker 1: pick me up the airport? So I stayed all day
Speaker 1: at our house. My flight didn't leave till ten o'clock
Speaker 1: that night, So got on the plane, took the Red Eye,
Speaker 1: tried to sleep on the plane, literally took a cab
Speaker 1: from the airport to the door, got out of the cab,
Speaker 1: walked directly into the meeting with my suitcases to be
Speaker 1: on time, and like spent the whole day, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like tire and all. But like and
Speaker 1: I it was funny because we were in a room
Speaker 1: with a bunch of older tight ends and they were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I thought you were like a veteran coming in back
Speaker 1: back last minute, and I was like, nope, just had
Speaker 1: to take the read out to get back but it
Speaker 1: is important because, like you get shows that you are
Speaker 1: locked and you want to be on time. So the
Speaker 1: other thing that I think is interesting, in addition to
Speaker 1: stories like that, you know, is the fact that they're
Speaker 1: saying in a team hotel, Yeah, in the years past
Speaker 1: when they've had camp here, they've been able to go
Speaker 1: home at night, And a lot of people say, oh,
Speaker 1: that's not a big deal.
Speaker 2: It's a big deal.
Speaker 1: How do you guys feel about that?
Speaker 4: I think it's great that you hear that now, and
Speaker 4: just knowing that, I remember at one point I got
Speaker 4: to the point where I felt like I was a
Speaker 4: little long in the tooth and.
Speaker 2: I can slip in my bed.
Speaker 4: I don't need necessarily have to be around these guys,
Speaker 4: but it means a lot. Yeah, even if a lot
Speaker 4: of these guys that's in the building or out here
Speaker 4: on the field, they're not going to be here. That
Speaker 4: time to bond is the only time you have because
Speaker 4: once things do, you know, you know, get real, you're
Speaker 4: going to go back to that home, You're going to
Speaker 4: have to deal with your family, and then you come
Speaker 4: over here and see these guys, but for so many hours.
Speaker 4: So I think training camp is the best time to
Speaker 4: kind of, you know, build that chemistry, have that bonding
Speaker 4: with you guys. You know, sometimes certain teams give you
Speaker 4: roommates just so you can get familiar with the person,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Team, And then I remember
Speaker 4: when I was a jet they switched it up. He
Speaker 4: wasn't always with the guys that we knew. It was
Speaker 4: defensing offense in the same room, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So get things a little, you know. I guess you
Speaker 4: can say competitive in a sense because now you know
Speaker 4: I'm sleeping with the enemy. I'm basically got a room
Speaker 4: mate that I got to go out there and.
Speaker 2: He got hurt the next day, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I think it's great.
Speaker 4: And when you hear that the last few years was different,
Speaker 4: and make sure kind of you know, wonder why raise eyebrow?
Speaker 3: Like maybe the words that come in to me when
Speaker 3: I hear that is plugged in. The one thing I
Speaker 3: do when I go home is unplugged right when I
Speaker 3: walk through that door.
Speaker 2: It's this my space.
Speaker 3: Training camp ain't about my space, It's about our space.
Speaker 3: So if I'm going to the center over here at
Speaker 3: the hotel, I'm still plugged in. I'm still and you
Speaker 3: know me, I could be a buttterole sometimes I'm knocking
Speaker 3: on people doors, waking them up and.
Speaker 2: Running like.
Speaker 4: These things all the time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so anything might be a joke, but it's also
Speaker 3: aw man, I remember when you did this?
Speaker 1: It did it? Did?
Speaker 3: It brings you closer that love hate relationship. You gotta
Speaker 3: like they always say, you can only hate somebody if.
Speaker 2: You love them. You can't. You can't hate a scrange
Speaker 2: it right.
Speaker 3: So the thing about it is when you spend this
Speaker 3: time together, down time, uptime, practice time, you bunn together.
Speaker 3: And this thing that bothered me doing training camp because
Speaker 3: I would bum with these guys in two weeks from
Speaker 3: now it ain't even on a team.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a good point. But I do think to
Speaker 1: support both of what you guys said. I think the
Speaker 1: way you said it, Fred is probably the best. It
Speaker 1: just it locks you in. You're in the thing. So
Speaker 1: like I, you know, I go back to my hotel
Speaker 1: room at night and I'd study the plays and my
Speaker 1: roommate would be in there and he's a tight end
Speaker 1: two and we're we're talking through Yeah, what do we
Speaker 1: have on this? So we got this? So what if
Speaker 1: they play this front and just kept you around mentally
Speaker 1: around ball a little bit longer. Now it's it sucks
Speaker 1: because you're away from your family, a little bit of
Speaker 1: mental grind. But I also think it starts this is
Speaker 1: all this old school logan talking. It starts the when
Speaker 1: you're in a trading camp away, when you're just kind
Speaker 1: of at home. It doesn't don't feel real. It feels
Speaker 1: like mini camp. And OT's a little bit yeah, and
Speaker 1: I think it needs to be a little bit more
Speaker 1: comprehensive than that. And then obviously, like you know, Tannel,
Speaker 1: we went down to Richmond for a little bit. That
Speaker 1: was totally that was totally different. But what did you
Speaker 1: love about it?
Speaker 4: The thing I love about just seeing something different and
Speaker 4: then not knowing the history of you know, Washington. It's
Speaker 4: so many fans down there, so many of those fans
Speaker 4: that come from Carolina that you know, from the other
Speaker 4: parts of you know, Va, to be down there and
Speaker 4: just to see the support. It's one thing about saying
Speaker 4: the city just treated us so well. The practice field
Speaker 4: was like every day was like almost a game atmosphere.
Speaker 2: Like those fans came, they showed up and showed out.
Speaker 4: So I love that, And it was just something different
Speaker 4: from me because you got to think about it. We
Speaker 4: didn't start going to Richmond until twenty twelve or thirteen thirteen,
Speaker 4: so that was my last year, you know, so to
Speaker 4: have that to be going out the door, it was
Speaker 4: something like a I guess you could say it actually
Speaker 4: got me up for those last two years.
Speaker 1: Get right to go to practice, the fans are there
Speaker 1: and the whole thing. How about you, Fred?
Speaker 2: I did Carlile when I came Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: So is it Carlile?
Speaker 2: Call it out of Carlile, Carlisle?
Speaker 1: Car Our producer Jayson says, Carle, But it's but it's
Speaker 1: a Baltimore. Is that a Baltimore accent? What is that?
Speaker 1: Let's talk through that.
Speaker 5: Little Yeah, I got the local accent right, like say Carle.
Speaker 1: And so when you came here, like it's Carlisle and
Speaker 1: I was like I thought that's what it was. He's
Speaker 1: like Carle and I was.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, he says no Ales.
Speaker 2: He says no Ales. And so how was that?
Speaker 1: Because like we're like, don't walk me through that.
Speaker 2: It's a college town, is it? Like in there?
Speaker 1: So what is the college? Is it Carle College? Is it?
Speaker 1: Or is it Shepherd?
Speaker 2: Shepherd? Right, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know off the top of my head. I
Speaker 5: just know that I used to go up to carl
Speaker 5: to watch camp. But then they did like a big
Speaker 5: car show there every year, yea, and.
Speaker 3: They would do I don't remember that, and but it
Speaker 3: was you could still smell the chocolate coming from Hershey, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 3: really like you just you just do that in the
Speaker 3: air and you just just chocolate in the air. But
Speaker 3: such Cousin was such a small town. We would just
Speaker 3: meet at this ice cream shop like that. That was,
Speaker 3: like I said, we were just so plugged then. And
Speaker 3: once you on the college campus and you were like,
Speaker 3: it's football, football, football, and it was. We was bunded,
Speaker 3: like I bunded with the Bruce Smiths of the world,
Speaker 3: Stephen Davis and the Jim George of the world. Like
Speaker 3: I had no other choice because we couldn't just jump
Speaker 3: in the car and head back this way. It was
Speaker 3: too far. Like we did everything from Carlilele, Pennsylvania and
Speaker 3: then you go play your preseason game right back to
Speaker 3: collegeut Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: I never forget my first day because I held out.
Speaker 1: Yeah a rookie, did you say all your stuff got
Speaker 1: through out the window.
Speaker 3: Yes, I held out right because I wanted more money.
Speaker 3: I wanted first round money. Caud like, I'm a first
Speaker 3: round tat.
Speaker 1: What they said?
Speaker 3: They said, yeah, all right, oh yeah. So I held
Speaker 3: out for three days.
Speaker 2: I came.
Speaker 3: I came and the first practice I'll never forget water
Speaker 3: shot and he was like, we drafted, we know he
Speaker 3: can cover.
Speaker 2: Put him at middle livebacker.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what they like, put him at middle livebacker
Speaker 3: the goal line.
Speaker 1: To do?
Speaker 2: Don Al Bennie is the full back. I want Stephen
Speaker 2: Davis is the tail back. I wouldn't have been ready,
Speaker 2: all right, Bruce.
Speaker 3: First day, First day, Bruce Snip turns to me and
Speaker 3: Bruce said, hey, I don't wait on him, go die
Speaker 3: in that hole, and boy, they snapped their ball.
Speaker 2: I went right down and then I was like, all right.
Speaker 1: Did you did you you listen?
Speaker 2: I hit done the other It wasn't no steal mate.
Speaker 2: I was going on. Stephen was coming and then he
Speaker 2: was like, again was your punishment of something that was there?
Speaker 4: Was like my initiation brother, my friends, you know, but
Speaker 4: but but.
Speaker 3: It was my dude, because I remember my first meeting,
Speaker 3: my first meeting room. They like, O t As was
Speaker 3: here and I walked in and it was Dion Sanders,
Speaker 3: my Idol Bailey who I just played with an A
Speaker 3: C C and Dyre Green.
Speaker 2: I walked right back.
Speaker 3: Out of there, like what you drave me for you? Like,
Speaker 3: first of all, go back in that room. The youth
Speaker 3: gonna start, don't you worried about that? So it was
Speaker 3: it was different emotions like this. All I knew at
Speaker 3: training camp was Carlydle Like if we waited years afterwards
Speaker 3: to start doing the local thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, that is to take for y'all to
Speaker 2: come back this way. Three. Oh, so y'all had three
Speaker 2: years ago we had.
Speaker 1: Three three Yeah, imagine that being your first day of
Speaker 1: practice though that dude, I'm a big guy, and that's
Speaker 1: a cross start. Because you know the thing about fullbacks
Speaker 1: for those of you at home, we don't know that
Speaker 1: much about fullbacks. There's like a there's like something wrong
Speaker 1: with them, like how hard they hit people. There's something
Speaker 1: just not.
Speaker 2: Nick they about short. Yeah, dude, remind me.
Speaker 4: But pride drill we had in high school, me and
Speaker 4: my homeboy both and we talk about all the time,
Speaker 4: Like our coach used to just have a drill where
Speaker 4: he say, get anybody and give a line in the
Speaker 4: ball and he have a first line, a first line
Speaker 4: of defense in the second line, but it's only one player, so.
Speaker 2: It's like bo defensive guy. He first and I'm last.
Speaker 4: So I'm like, the only way we're gonna take this
Speaker 4: dude that's three hundred pounds down And we hit him
Speaker 4: at the same time, and both said, that's what the
Speaker 4: day I found out that you played dB because I
Speaker 4: came and hit to do before you.
Speaker 2: Hit him because I didn't want to get rid of Yeah, don't.
Speaker 2: And the coach is like, what made you do that? Bro?
Speaker 4: You just that I threw my body and I say, man,
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna run. I'm gonna go out here if
Speaker 4: I get embarrassed, get embarrassed by way, ye my weight,
Speaker 4: So remind me of that you a linebacker having to
Speaker 4: go through that night going in there and I'm gonna
Speaker 4: explode thing first.
Speaker 2: Three ways, I'm like, you know what you know? How
Speaker 2: you tapping their head like I need help? And more
Speaker 2: than I keep him in there, keep him.
Speaker 1: Did you did you get knocked out?
Speaker 3: I did not get knocked out. I think what they
Speaker 3: really loved. I just kept getting back up. I just
Speaker 3: kept getting back up.
Speaker 4: Get you was the mounth So you're like, man, you
Speaker 4: know they kept ye after I would not be able
Speaker 4: to talk to tras O talking by going here and
Speaker 4: like a.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm literally just yepping them. Steve, Stephen Dave
Speaker 2: was just soft song.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm just if you don't lose your mind
Speaker 3: in that time like that ain't fun, smartly thinking people.
Speaker 2: This is for maniacs.
Speaker 3: Time for maniacs. So for two answer to a maniac
Speaker 3: you got to turn to a mode.
Speaker 4: Almost felt like why are you doing this? Like what
Speaker 4: like damn coach was good, like you know, you know,
Speaker 4: I play corner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It's just like play a corner. Then they doing what
Speaker 3: they call it the ten yardria. When we were like
Speaker 3: when you had to lay on your back, Yeah, you
Speaker 3: had to jump up and get a little different balls.
Speaker 3: You got a full back and running back and realized
Speaker 3: Stephen Davids to forty by.
Speaker 1: That fullback, don't they have been at too fifty?
Speaker 3: Yeah listen and I'm at one seventy one at this time.
Speaker 1: Look they were probably.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me and Ford were the same person, just we're
Speaker 3: thirteen on them.
Speaker 1: I will say that, dude, like when I was whenever,
Speaker 1: whenever I got a small dB, like when I was
Speaker 1: playing fullback, they're playing tight. Oh dude, there's something so
Speaker 1: nice about it.
Speaker 2: Oh, you just like vacation because you can just throw that.
Speaker 1: It's just like it's just a different things. So they're
Speaker 1: probably having a good chuckle about it anyway. All right, Oh,
Speaker 1: another story, we got another story. Mike Sanders Still came
Speaker 1: to Jaden's presser and asked them how bad Michigan would
Speaker 1: beat LSU, which I think is kind of interesting, but
Speaker 1: also I think shows a nice fellowship and camaraderie with
Speaker 1: the guy.
Speaker 4: We never lose our college love, Like, no matter what
Speaker 4: you do in the locker room, we gonna we're gonna
Speaker 4: throw that.
Speaker 3: S CEC up there. We're gonna throw that at Miami
Speaker 3: and we're gonna throw. We gonna throw UC were gonna
Speaker 3: throw our college. We don't forever rip the college now
Speaker 3: now thinking about that, James.
Speaker 2: Danielsd had the number one office in college, Michigan did
Speaker 2: have the number one defense.
Speaker 3: This script, throw script, Michigan needs the forty come on
Speaker 3: they got was in Brian Thomas out there.
Speaker 1: They were playing did you watch what they were doing
Speaker 1: at Michigan.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I know the Konabacks, dude, they were like this,
Speaker 2: no you go, you go low.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, they're running like NFL, So like
Speaker 1: this is a great, this is a great. Have you
Speaker 1: watch the National Championship game? I did Michael Pennix junior
Speaker 1: throwing a you know, Roma duns throwing all these guys
Speaker 1: getting drafted. Everyone on their offense got drafted. Who was eligible? Right? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they looked silly because Michigan was running a legit. They're
Speaker 1: running Baltimore's defense. Yeah, I know, this kind of crazy
Speaker 1: fire zone. Who's coming where, rotating coverages, disguises. So Jay Daniels,
Speaker 1: I know he's a baller, but like, good night for this.
Speaker 3: Well, but he cannot throw on Michigan. He can take
Speaker 3: off with those of them.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, he went toe to toe with Alabama.
Speaker 1: I'll give him that, and they run a similar defensive structure.
Speaker 1: But what was to score of that game? Forty five
Speaker 1: to twenty? Like, you can only do so much, man, But.
Speaker 2: We also know football. You don't know until you get
Speaker 2: on their field.
Speaker 4: And it's always good to know that you had the
Speaker 4: better team already because think about Michigan win that championship.
Speaker 4: They did, so he had a little more to come
Speaker 4: in here and brag about. You know what I mean, Actually, someone,
Speaker 4: what do you think your team would have did?
Speaker 2: It's almost like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because you were a the you and like
Speaker 1: the you was like the you. Probably ask some people
Speaker 1: that all the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. People people would ask me and be like, man,
Speaker 2: what do you think we would have did? What you think? Smoke?
Speaker 2: Call the names alone?
Speaker 4: But you know how you say you can't you can't
Speaker 4: win games with just names. Yeah, but when you kind
Speaker 4: of can look at the team how they play with
Speaker 4: those names, you're like, yeah, man, those guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So leave a comment. Let me know what you think.
Speaker 1: Do zelous, you have a chance for sus Michigan from
Speaker 1: last year now totally hypothetical, but I think I think
Speaker 1: no way, Yeah, I think they got rolled.
Speaker 4: I think slow it down from play a more pro
Speaker 4: style you know, uh, you know, started playing offensively.
Speaker 2: They would have beat them. To me, just quarterback with legs.
Speaker 2: I always give your chance something.
Speaker 1: That defense was good, man. I don't know anyway, ain't.
Speaker 2: Wonning that championship, but ten years.
Speaker 1: Beside this one so well we're talking about this last year,
Speaker 1: right all right? So another thing, So that's the fellowship,
Speaker 1: the camaraderie. Everyone's feeling really good about that, really exciting.
Speaker 1: Good to see the team. But you see that at
Speaker 1: practice and the most recent practice we watched, they had
Speaker 1: the first day of pads. Man, and I know I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna ask for I asked, Tanna, what is putting
Speaker 1: the pads on do for you? When it's time to
Speaker 1: get gone?
Speaker 2: Just make me tired? I mean, you know I'm gonna
Speaker 2: see here. I'm not going to give you that. I'm
Speaker 2: going to give that great answer.
Speaker 4: Like, guy, when I put those pass on, I just felt,
Speaker 4: I felt just solidified I was going to go out
Speaker 4: there and be it that much of a player.
Speaker 2: Let me just hate it putting on.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, You did it affect how
Speaker 1: you ran route? Because I always found when I put
Speaker 1: pads on, again, I'm a wide body, I'm not super athletic,
Speaker 1: but like it gave the dvs a bigger surface to contact,
Speaker 1: and that made it really hard to run round.
Speaker 4: It's like this when you got a guydess I I'm lightning, yeah,
Speaker 4: and then you tell me all right through this on
Speaker 4: that five pounds a look and.
Speaker 2: I'm done to Now you hear me, you don't see me,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: So it's one of those things like, don't get me wrong,
Speaker 4: I've been doing this for so long to where I'm
Speaker 4: used to it, but it takes a get off you
Speaker 4: a little bit. You have to kind of simble down
Speaker 4: a little bit and say, Okay, I have to now
Speaker 4: learn how to run this on. So when you say
Speaker 4: the first day, yeah, it's going to be a little
Speaker 4: difficult for a guy who wants to run because now
Speaker 4: I'm a little more tied.
Speaker 2: Now I'm a little more heavier, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So now I have to kind of critique how I'm
Speaker 4: doing things like okay with Tanna, and you did this
Speaker 4: yesterday and you was able to do it because you
Speaker 4: didn't have to pass on you got to you gotta
Speaker 4: hold back a little bit. You can't be going under
Speaker 4: and it's one on one drill trying to get all
Speaker 4: these ruts. When you got you want to save it.
Speaker 4: You want to preserve yourself for that next series. So
Speaker 4: first they would have been a little difficult, but by
Speaker 4: the time I got it, that first day I'd probably
Speaker 4: desumber down a little bit and then have something better say.
Speaker 2: Think about past is.
Speaker 3: They will always say I can only judge a football player.
Speaker 3: They were only like sem one salems all the time
Speaker 3: because there's no pass like I can only judge it
Speaker 3: while receiving how good he is when I see him
Speaker 3: run with pass on like, because everybody can run a
Speaker 3: four to two with short so but they don't mean
Speaker 3: he run like they fully equipped. So that's the thing.
Speaker 3: Now it's a defensive back. I don't know if y'all
Speaker 3: seen that food. I know it just freshly out. But
Speaker 3: when he got that new suit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: That's how I felt when I put them pants on.
Speaker 3: They going to slap myself on the button. You know, what,
Speaker 3: did you like putting pads on?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Really, I'm at that love to practice like I mean,
Speaker 1: I like practicing too, But.
Speaker 3: But I would literally run out to the practice field hollering, yelling,
Speaker 3: we'll go through scratching.
Speaker 2: I ain't scratching. I'm walking around chatting up with everybody
Speaker 2: like this.
Speaker 3: I enjoyed practice like I always said this, what what.
Speaker 2: Other place would you rather the beat?
Speaker 1: Fact?
Speaker 2: I here practicing this game so I enjoyed it.
Speaker 3: And when you put it on, I actually felt safer
Speaker 3: in my pad than not now. And I think especially
Speaker 3: when you got these fullbacks, like like seller turning the
Speaker 3: coner on you, and you got tight ends, like I'm like,
Speaker 3: give me my pants, man, now I can say this.
Speaker 3: I really just be inhal met and show to pay.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know what I'm saying. Halfway there?
Speaker 1: Well that's now. That's all they were. They rarely put
Speaker 1: pants on, but yeah, I was. I was always pretty
Speaker 1: nervous first day of pads, like and I'll tell you why,
Speaker 1: Like I like pads. I felt safer impads. The techniques,
Speaker 1: my technique changed a little bit with pads on. But
Speaker 1: I was always concerned, especially that first day, that I
Speaker 1: wasn't there physically yet ready I wasn't, you know, because
Speaker 1: you got to be a little.
Speaker 2: You feel like you was in game shape.
Speaker 1: In like in like contact. You're always I always was.
Speaker 1: I never had an issue with it, but I was
Speaker 1: always worried, am I gonna get embarrassed today? Because that's
Speaker 1: the one thing pads does, is it allows someone to
Speaker 1: physically embarrass you imposed a wheel ow. Yeah, because you know,
Speaker 1: like if you're not in the right position, You're not
Speaker 1: in the right technique. It's like, oh dang, Like he
Speaker 1: can snap like you know, I remember like doing like
Speaker 1: an iso lead on Fletch, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And him just if you did not come in there
Speaker 1: with the right mentality, he was going to snap your
Speaker 1: chin strap off and you're gonna be on a knee
Speaker 1: and you're gonna be like, dang, that's embarrassing.
Speaker 4: I can understand that because you just in the whole
Speaker 4: different world with your pass and than we are, you know,
Speaker 4: I mean, like we were on the ag on the outside.
Speaker 2: We got there just.
Speaker 4: Paddy kicking, you know what I mean what I'm saying like, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's something in the trenches, you know something about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something about it though, Like and again like
Speaker 1: I you know Fletchers, I loved it, like because he
Speaker 1: was that dude. He was like the alpha. He was
Speaker 1: like the MMA, like the heavyweight camp.
Speaker 2: Like he's the guy that you walk in the bar
Speaker 2: and see him with the collar flower ear. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: you didn't know that, you didn't know that bop that
Speaker 2: he walked.
Speaker 4: He walked with a bop like he just knew like
Speaker 4: bumping and pumping a tattoo somebody because.
Speaker 3: He had that leverage. Like sometimes you gotta understand this
Speaker 3: short leverage. You can't get under him.
Speaker 4: Like, man, I used to hear stuff and I used
Speaker 4: to blacking, and I just see a fifty nine walking
Speaker 4: out of them.
Speaker 2: I say, boy, he just accident. He just went. He
Speaker 2: just killed face masking. Somebody have his.
Speaker 1: Vivid memory of him. I've run an io and it
Speaker 1: was like a misdirection in Kyle's offense, and so I
Speaker 1: was kind of coming from the tight end wing leading
Speaker 1: up in the opposite a gap, so I like kind
Speaker 1: of pulled for him, and his eyes were like totally
Speaker 1: the opposite way. I'm like, I'm about to clean this
Speaker 1: dude up.
Speaker 2: This is my time.
Speaker 1: I'm here.
Speaker 2: I've arrived showing with Logan hates Yes.
Speaker 1: And at the last second, this dude it was like
Speaker 1: a scary movie like Superman or something. His eyes just
Speaker 1: snapped to me, and I was like, I still got
Speaker 1: him because it's so late and he could generate so
Speaker 1: much torque in his upper body. He did his little
Speaker 1: shoulder punch. Yeah, broke my chin strap, my helmet fell off,
Speaker 1: and I just you know, like when you get snop
Speaker 1: bubbles and I was just like, god, bless, I had
Speaker 1: everything I wanted there. And I remember walking back to Sean.
Speaker 1: I was getting my helmet fixed and he was like
Speaker 1: it was like physical down. I was like, yeah, it
Speaker 1: was this.
Speaker 2: Look you ever heard his third and you can usually
Speaker 2: last day everything. I'm just like looking at it, like
Speaker 2: oh yeah, because I can see him turn around. This man.
Speaker 1: It was like he's like tricked me. He like tricked
Speaker 1: me into knowing, like oh god, oho Jesus, So yeah,
Speaker 1: pads always got to get me spooed out. But I
Speaker 1: think from an evaluation standpoint, when you're watching practice, like
Speaker 1: like Fred said, it's football time, man, like all that
Speaker 1: stuff in, you know, shells.
Speaker 2: And OTAs and all the sudden.
Speaker 1: It's like, now this is the thing, Like so my
Speaker 1: son plays hockey, right, this is this is this is relevant.
Speaker 1: I promised he's ten. You can't check to your twelve.
Speaker 1: And so there's all these really good skaters. And the
Speaker 1: hockey director came up to me the other day and
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, it's crazy when we start
Speaker 1: checking half these dudes are gonna just evaporate quick, just evaporate.
Speaker 1: No more text, no more calls are gone. It's the
Speaker 1: same thing with football. Yes, if you put the pads on,
Speaker 1: some guys are gonna be like, you know what, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be a banker. Yeah, I'm gonna go do something else.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you how fun half field because I
Speaker 3: was just always skinny dude.
Speaker 2: I'm a skinny dude in the room. And then we'll
Speaker 2: walk into the weight room in the off season. All
Speaker 2: these dudes, yes, gift to light weight rooms.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, wait till we put these pay its
Speaker 3: because then yellow belly, they even yellow belly come out.
Speaker 2: It shows up, man, it shows up.
Speaker 3: So the past our truth tellers, that's what their pads are,
Speaker 3: the truth tailers about how are you as a true
Speaker 3: football player.
Speaker 2: You're a great athlete. But this for football players right here.
Speaker 1: And so you get to see that, and I think
Speaker 1: it's cool, like, you know, watching the defensive line get
Speaker 1: hands on people, old line, the tight ends, like our
Speaker 1: guy Ben Sinat yesterday lined up at full back Tenna, yeah,
Speaker 1: and lifted some dude. It was like a double team
Speaker 1: with a tight end in the full back and pop
Speaker 1: this dude off his feet like head hit the ground first.
Speaker 1: And I was like that dude, No, that's what he does.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I said it, Excuse me said it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna tell you what I do. Remember Coach
Speaker 3: Gibbs first gets back. Uh, we were able to walk through,
Speaker 3: but it's with pads on, and you know, Sean Tia
Speaker 3: come out there looking any kind of way.
Speaker 2: He don't care. I to see the dude have blue
Speaker 2: jeans on his hand like he don't care. And coach
Speaker 2: said loud, it just walked through. We don't. We don't
Speaker 2: touch each other uptown, She'll come down here.
Speaker 3: They pitched c Peter Ball chilling peelscal Really I'm talking
Speaker 3: about Peel.
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, we're walking through. They hiking a kid.
Speaker 2: He but Cat Lindale like, hey, just get him over there.
Speaker 2: He is not let us pregnant, not like y'all know.
Speaker 2: He don't know how to do. But one way, like
Speaker 2: I don't know what y'all thought.
Speaker 1: You remember you mentioned Sean. I wonder if he got
Speaker 1: this from so Laarn. Remember we were doing a goal
Speaker 1: line walk through period. Goal line walked through and I'll
Speaker 1: be damned. And if Laurn didn't full tackle the back
Speaker 1: for consecutive places in the road, yes, but like not
Speaker 1: like like it was like no, like everyone everyone's walking
Speaker 1: through and Laurn just harpooned somebody and.
Speaker 2: He learned it from show. And we were talking about
Speaker 2: dudes theydn't know how to practice. They don't. It's like
Speaker 2: pros and dude, I just don't care putting them in
Speaker 2: that category.
Speaker 1: They got one speed and I can't get But okay,
Speaker 1: so let's talk about that difference because that's our next thing.
Speaker 4: Have one speed. But guys like those two they don't care.
Speaker 4: I don't care about what you want you're talking about, coach, No.
Speaker 2: This is how I wanted. This is how I want
Speaker 2: to do this. To take me out, uh put me in.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about that because I think that's one
Speaker 1: thing is the intensity in practice has been good, but
Speaker 1: guys would relatively safe. And we were talking about maybe
Speaker 1: two examples where guys could have been safer. Maybe, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what is what is practicing? Like a pro mean tanna
Speaker 1: to you? Like, what does it mean? Like where you're
Speaker 1: you're taking care of each other but you're not you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you're like, what does that mean?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean I'm a receiver so one you asking me,
Speaker 2: you know, but.
Speaker 1: I'm saying DB's got to take care of you. You
Speaker 1: got to take care of DBS.
Speaker 4: And I think that for the most part, I've always
Speaker 4: practiced like I wanted to play, you know what I mean,
Speaker 4: Like I did everything full of speed.
Speaker 2: I didn't when you saw me.
Speaker 4: Outside, whether it was routes on air, whether it was
Speaker 4: me going through something with just you know, the one
Speaker 4: on ones. I did that particular drill as if I
Speaker 4: was in a game setting. So when it comes to if.
Speaker 1: You're a young guy listening to that, like please take
Speaker 1: that to heart. The best guys ever played with all
Speaker 1: of them. That's how they did it. Everything no joke,
Speaker 1: full speed, start time.
Speaker 2: And no no problem. We was talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: our receiver code.
Speaker 4: He was just joking about you know how stand said
Speaker 4: it the first day you know that Randall Heldham got here.
Speaker 4: They was asking questions. He was like, is watch Tanner?
Speaker 4: And you might take it as a why I gotta
Speaker 4: watch Tanna? Why he can't tell me, but he basically
Speaker 4: telling him like, look, he does everything for a speed,
Speaker 4: so run that particular route that.
Speaker 2: Way, block that guy that way.
Speaker 4: So he was basically letting them know, if you want
Speaker 4: to watch somebody doing what we got to do, just
Speaker 4: watch him.
Speaker 2: And so that's how I did it.
Speaker 4: And when you get a I guess you can say
Speaker 4: the DB's know this is how he gonna come. So
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, they lie, but they
Speaker 4: know at the same time too, I'm not gonna tug
Speaker 4: on him because we're protecting each I's not gonna get
Speaker 4: my nothing to that dB jumping on his back, not
Speaker 4: doing that. I might go up, but I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: do anything that's gonna hurt him. And that's how you
Speaker 4: have to have to understand it. It's going to kind
Speaker 4: of be one of those things is you're going to
Speaker 4: just have to know how to feel what that guy
Speaker 4: has going on.
Speaker 2: Now that's a guy on the outside.
Speaker 4: I don't know how y'all can communicate that way and
Speaker 4: the inside because I feel like even when we walking through,
Speaker 4: when you got a helmet on, and it's hard for
Speaker 4: you guys not to just say, I have to collegion
Speaker 4: on collegis, so I have to make sure that I out.
Speaker 1: Wield this guy. So I don't know, even like helmets,
Speaker 1: you're pretty full speed. I'll say, like when you're practicing,
Speaker 1: like if you're in the run surface, you don't finish guys.
Speaker 1: You can finish guys like with your feet, like kind
Speaker 1: of stay in front, but you're not using your upper
Speaker 1: body like rotation to get them on balance to throw
Speaker 1: guys to the ground. I mean, in a game, obviously
Speaker 1: you're gonna do that. You're trying to get that done.
Speaker 1: But like, think about it. If I, let's say I'm
Speaker 1: blocking the defensive end, he tries to beat me inside
Speaker 1: and I kind of pull him down, I could throw
Speaker 1: him into the tackle. I could throw him into the
Speaker 1: defensive tackle as a linebacker filling right. And in a
Speaker 1: game that's that's legal it Yeah, but and in practice,
Speaker 1: I got to make sure that he's healthy. How I'm healthy.
Speaker 1: And there's times too, like where for example, the pile's
Speaker 1: coming and you're pushing on somebody and the outside linebaker
Speaker 1: be like, hey, many man, it'll kind of pull you away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you don't get rolled up on it. That's and
Speaker 1: that's taking care of each other.
Speaker 4: So how do you guys have to understanding Is it
Speaker 4: something that you you you kind of learn over that
Speaker 4: we just learned from the venture, or it's just like
Speaker 4: because I've been on a team where in practice I
Speaker 4: saw we called him the Yeah, I don't want to
Speaker 4: call him, I don't want to say what we called him,
Speaker 4: but Kevin Mwaii with the Jets, Oh yeah, on those
Speaker 4: guys in practice like that, you know, and our defense
Speaker 4: had it out for every time we went against them
Speaker 4: because of him. So that's why I always wanted to
Speaker 4: know what is the understanding amongst those understanding.
Speaker 1: Is Kevin is no grad stang. Yeah, Kevin Mawi is
Speaker 1: a legend in that regard. Like I've when I came
Speaker 1: to the league, you heard stories about him and you
Speaker 1: that much younger, Yeah, I was younger. When I was
Speaker 1: in Chicago, he was the assistant coach. He would tell
Speaker 1: stories about Like I was just like, oh my, you
Speaker 1: used to do what to your teammate, bro? You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I've seen him do some stuff man and practice, and
Speaker 4: I was like, let's buckle up, man.
Speaker 1: The problem because of that wouldn't fly, Like for example,
Speaker 1: like Cornelius Lucas had to move with uh Ferrell Colin
Speaker 1: Farrell Cleveland Ferrell where he went inside and kind of
Speaker 1: gave him a little tug, lost his feet for a second.
Speaker 1: Cleveland fell down right, and you know, Lucas stops, Dan
Speaker 1: comes over. It's like a whole thing because you gotta
Speaker 1: get you got to trying to get to the season,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like on the inside
Speaker 1: there's that communication. But for Dv's Fred. One of the
Speaker 1: things that I always found really frustrating is like in practice,
Speaker 1: especially with an offensive head coach, it's like, hey, man,
Speaker 1: if it's fifty to fifty, it's offensive ball. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: how do you work that?
Speaker 3: I never practiced like that? How do you I'm gonna
Speaker 3: break that up. I don't give a day who ball because.
Speaker 1: Then they get mad of you if you don't. I
Speaker 1: don't great.
Speaker 2: Williams ain't letting me slide.
Speaker 3: Coach Giaz, I understand what you're saying, but I'm gonna
Speaker 3: knock that ball away like we was never like that
Speaker 3: in DNJ.
Speaker 2: Every Gray was my dB coach.
Speaker 3: Don't you let him catch you? Jerf, we adn't walk through.
Speaker 3: Don't you let him catch you? Like so at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, I think it has a lot
Speaker 3: to do with your coach and staff also about how
Speaker 3: they want these things to be done.
Speaker 2: But you just got to go hard. I think.
Speaker 4: I think when I when when I watched Guys and
Speaker 4: and this goes back to my younger years in New York,
Speaker 4: which was good, a great insight from an older head.
Speaker 4: But I remember I ain't a bad like Tanne. Calm down,
Speaker 4: and I got what he was saying. But at the
Speaker 4: same time, I don't think he knew who I was.
Speaker 4: Came to how this is my preparation, this is how
Speaker 4: I prepare. Yeah, so I would go to my practice
Speaker 4: knowing that this is going to be the way I go.
Speaker 4: I want this temple every time. So I could take
Speaker 4: that same mindset to when I was talking on.
Speaker 3: Get Loud yesterday and I said it because we was
Speaker 3: talking about just preparation. I brought you up and I
Speaker 3: brought London up in this situation because of my peas.
Speaker 3: It's to you know, proper preparation previns poor performance. And
Speaker 3: I say, some guys had this thing that they did
Speaker 3: like I was never one of these guys where I
Speaker 3: had these habit because I never like poor muscles.
Speaker 2: I didn't have the.
Speaker 3: Problem to them, but I used to watch them do
Speaker 3: certain things every day same and I think this this
Speaker 3: this the pros habits, and most pros have those habits.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And I think you know, one of the
Speaker 1: things we're kind of hitting on there is like competitive.
Speaker 1: How do you keep it competitive? How do you keep
Speaker 1: it fresh? How do you not get in the fights.
Speaker 1: And one of the things I think this staff has
Speaker 1: done is they've every day they have a competitive period.
Speaker 1: So last I think it was Friday, they did like
Speaker 1: a red zone competition, so offensive TD was seven points,
Speaker 1: field goal was three points, defensive stop with seven points
Speaker 1: for the defense, and then a fourth down stop with
Speaker 1: seven points.
Speaker 3: I loved it in a video game world, like coach
Speaker 3: saying I'm gonna play on the inter competitives. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: push their buttons without them even knowing I'm pushing.
Speaker 2: They That was like playing NFL streets almost, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, by the way, I was a hell of
Speaker 2: receive me and with a squad on that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think, like you know, you do get
Speaker 1: a little bit burned out. You don't get a little
Speaker 1: bit Friday and camps all of a sudden, it's like hey, man,
Speaker 1: like and and if you've got your team built the
Speaker 1: right way, yeah, I feel like those guys all go yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, what you know what I'm saying lists we're
Speaker 1: playing a game like there was a there was an
Speaker 1: old story about Seattle on how they do draft evaluations
Speaker 1: where they have a little uh basketball hoop like you know,
Speaker 1: on the back of the door and be like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's go first to ten yea and some guys like
Speaker 1: but they want the dudes that like perk up because
Speaker 1: we're playing.
Speaker 2: Oh no, this is me, I know.
Speaker 1: But it's time to compete. And I think like if
Speaker 1: the team's built the right way and they're all ready
Speaker 1: to go in that direction, like you're going to get
Speaker 1: a more productive practice. Yeah, and you were talking about
Speaker 1: in college, I.
Speaker 4: Used to stuff like that and now we're just trying
Speaker 4: to get those thoughts again because I'm sitting here thinking
Speaker 4: about it. No, I mean honestly, like we had peerents
Speaker 4: like that in college where we want we knew from
Speaker 4: the get go. First of all, we was hoping that
Speaker 4: we didn't have that period. So you're going through that
Speaker 4: that practice in the hot sun, tired, you know, thinking
Speaker 4: about what you're gonna eat, think about got to go
Speaker 4: take this te so study for this test. And then
Speaker 4: the coach said, all right, we got this period and
Speaker 4: the loser gott to run one ten. So now you like,
Speaker 4: I ain't running one too, looking at you, looking at
Speaker 4: every guy in they eyes, like, bro, do your job.
Speaker 2: And I remember, I'm gonna tell a story.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell the time about us playing so well
Speaker 4: together where the offense was kicking behind, but the defense
Speaker 4: played so good they just they couldn't help but give
Speaker 4: up points.
Speaker 2: The guys who was scoring the touchdowns, Like, bro, you
Speaker 2: got the.
Speaker 4: Best of the best out here that's doing it. And
Speaker 4: the coach say, you know what that right that period
Speaker 4: right there was so good. Nobody about to run, you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, even though the offense won because
Speaker 4: we was bombed at it was just bombed over bad dad.
Speaker 2: But he's like, you know what, I saw the intensity
Speaker 2: pick up.
Speaker 4: I saw the competition rise, and at the end of
Speaker 4: the day we all got to here healthy break it down,
Speaker 4: And you know, that period kind of build that camaraderie.
Speaker 4: It builds that I know who I can take into
Speaker 4: that war zone with, and you get familiar with the
Speaker 4: guys you had on the field with. So I think
Speaker 4: it's great, man, And I just love to hear some
Speaker 4: of this stuff coming out of these this building when
Speaker 4: it come to just coaching stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they show you where to stand to it. It
Speaker 3: show you where to Floyd. We ain't at the ceiling yet,
Speaker 3: but it showed you this is where to Floyd. We
Speaker 3: ain't getting no worse than this.
Speaker 2: This is what it is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, absolutely, so yeah, I love that the company,
Speaker 1: and they've done something different every day. They did like
Speaker 1: a two point conversion one day, they did two minutes today,
Speaker 1: Like they really find a way to make sure that
Speaker 1: your situational football and the practices are tight. But because
Speaker 1: the intensity is so high, they can be tight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know if the practice is loose and long
Speaker 1: and language and.
Speaker 3: I don't see no day periods and I do enjoy it,
Speaker 3: like I always hated practices where I just got to
Speaker 3: sit around for five minutes and do nothing, Like I
Speaker 3: don't like that.
Speaker 2: Like once I'm movie, I'm a nurser. Keep me going.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, which has been a lot of fun. I
Speaker 1: think a big testament to Dan Quinn, but also the
Speaker 1: entire coaching staff, you know, Cliff and Joe Wah Junior
Speaker 1: and both offensive defensive steps. All right, so now let's
Speaker 1: get too kind of the meat potatoes. But people want
Speaker 1: to know, and that's who has been standing out at
Speaker 1: practice and it's literally could be anybody. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You want to start it off, guys, Yeah, why not?
Speaker 1: So guy that stood out from the day one off
Speaker 1: season program. Whatever is this guy? No one knows him
Speaker 1: is Price and Tremaine like the receiver eight eight now
Speaker 1: he just every day kind of he wins in special teams,
Speaker 1: He makes contested catches, he runs crisp professional routes. He's
Speaker 1: where he's supposed to be. And you know, every one time,
Speaker 1: I could have easily said Jane Daniels here, but I'm
Speaker 1: trying to go. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the easy low hanging from jayde Daniels.
Speaker 1: Trust the Marcus Mario to trust them, Jeff Driscoll, trust him.
Speaker 1: You got three dudes back there that say I can
Speaker 1: throw this guy. Yeah, any kind of all I want,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna make me right. And the special team stuff,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's going to make the team,
Speaker 1: but he's definitely making a.
Speaker 2: Strong, strong place. Why you have Taer receive was because
Speaker 2: of the catch radius and he is big. Kyle twer received.
Speaker 2: One thing about Tyer receive. You could throw bad balls to.
Speaker 3: Them like you want to have somebody that I don't
Speaker 3: have to be as accurate to hit them, And that's
Speaker 3: what it is.
Speaker 2: But if I had to pick a guy, I think
Speaker 2: it's quin More.
Speaker 1: To me, I like that Quan.
Speaker 3: It's you know, not only playing safety, he's playing majority
Speaker 3: safety now, but he's also playing a lot of nickel.
Speaker 3: To me, he's the guy that I think is going
Speaker 3: to be one of those true glue guys on defense,
Speaker 3: and he plays with this Consisten said, And I can't.
Speaker 3: I just can't get that interception he made in OTA's
Speaker 3: out of my head, you know what I'm saying, The
Speaker 3: one behind the back, because that's one of them.
Speaker 2: We DB's.
Speaker 3: We all have that dream interception. When I was young,
Speaker 3: I wanted to see Wood, right. I wanted the one
Speaker 3: that you know, see Wood caught on the sideline with
Speaker 3: the one hand.
Speaker 2: When I had one in.
Speaker 3: High school and I caught him one out of bounds
Speaker 3: and I threw it to my teammate. That was my
Speaker 3: favorite interception in my life. So that one he made
Speaker 3: in Ota, like, that's one that you as a quarterback,
Speaker 3: if you already got confidence, it creeps up a little
Speaker 3: bit now and then with this new group. I know
Speaker 3: he got to be feeling good because this is a
Speaker 3: defensive back, friendly defensive coordinator.
Speaker 2: So Kawin Martin to me is the guy for.
Speaker 1: Sure, Kawan Martin, but also another guy that maybe bottom
Speaker 1: of the roster, guyst from Texas Tech. He's really shown
Speaker 1: up special teams, justin guy. Jason loves to.
Speaker 2: Speak of a couple of guys.
Speaker 4: And now one of the guys was We was on
Speaker 4: the field the other day watching them in past and
Speaker 4: he was all enamored by high Gates looked, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, Bates looked inside his you. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then right after that, right after that, you know,
Speaker 4: dan Quinn kind of come in and on how good
Speaker 4: he looked practice just blocking.
Speaker 2: And so when you have a guy like that just
Speaker 2: knowing what he has in front of him.
Speaker 4: As far as the guy we brought in and the
Speaker 4: guy was drafted, yeah, I can assure you that he
Speaker 4: got a lot going on in his head. So it's
Speaker 4: great to hear those whispers about him in practice. And
Speaker 4: then the other guy, Man last year, we had so
Speaker 4: many high hopes on this kid. Uh he was he
Speaker 4: made it to the last game. We just knew he
Speaker 4: was gonna be on the roster cars Allen. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: they saying that he's looking good on a special team
Speaker 4: to kick return position him and Santa Steel. So those
Speaker 4: guys have to have stepped up and been looking pretty
Speaker 4: good so far in training camp.
Speaker 2: And that's you know, you have to shun the light
Speaker 2: on that.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said Sandra.
Speaker 2: Still.
Speaker 1: I was able to watch him a little bit more
Speaker 1: to day of practice, and just his footwork is awesome.
Speaker 1: John got him a couple of times, but he's working
Speaker 1: in the slot. He's got to defend every angle of
Speaker 1: the cut. He's right there in the pocket. And I
Speaker 1: thought Johan today had a really nice day of practice
Speaker 1: catching the football. He's been a little bit quiet, but
Speaker 1: I think, just to kind of sum this up, the
Speaker 1: one guy that I think we've all been the most
Speaker 1: impressed with is Jayden Daniels. Like I wish we could
Speaker 1: get through a podcast without talking about him, but like
Speaker 1: you can't. Like today, for example, he uh, there was
Speaker 1: a little bit of pressure. He booted out to his right.
Speaker 1: He was waiting for this comeback and he threw it
Speaker 1: before the receiver was out. It was as Rosie was
Speaker 1: out of his break. Osi turns and the ball had
Speaker 1: the perfect velocity right in the basket, dragged the toes
Speaker 1: and I just like dang man.
Speaker 2: That's then he wrote one too.
Speaker 1: I heard it went to John, Yeah, John, great, great
Speaker 1: one to Johan over the top, to U over the top,
Speaker 1: to Terry. I think he had he just I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's he got a lot of
Speaker 1: work to do, a lot of stuff still happen to eat.
Speaker 2: Say he got to get he's.
Speaker 1: Been, he's had a good cuple weeks of practice. So
Speaker 1: I always excited to see how that comes out, looking
Speaker 1: at the joint practice and and yeah, so we're looking
Speaker 1: for that. And then one thing, last thing before our
Speaker 1: special special guest joins us is making plays versus being consistent.
Speaker 1: I think I think they are the same thing, consistently
Speaker 1: making plays.
Speaker 3: Because everybody got identity, right, Like, for instance, Saint Juice
Speaker 3: is more consistent than he is a play maker.
Speaker 2: All right, Well Ford might be more of a playmaker
Speaker 2: than consistent. So we need both.
Speaker 3: Like, I don't think it's a perfect mixture there, but
Speaker 3: I think your standard is your standard.
Speaker 2: Like me myself, if I had to say one route that.
Speaker 3: I've always probably a step later on because I was
Speaker 3: just willing to give it up. Was a comeback, and
Speaker 3: I'm willing to give his comeback because I'm not willing
Speaker 3: to get his go route.
Speaker 2: I can't stop everything.
Speaker 3: So am I consistently good on come I mean routes,
Speaker 3: inconsistent on comeback?
Speaker 4: I think one of the things I've learned in college,
Speaker 4: it was something that I took. I brought to the
Speaker 4: NFL with me and it helped me tremendously. I was
Speaker 4: always the playmaker. Like when you throw something up deep
Speaker 4: Tanna coming down with a nine time out of ten,
Speaker 4: throw me the hitch.
Speaker 2: I might leave. I might leave before the ball got there.
Speaker 2: And CJ.
Speaker 4: Curtis Johnson say, Tanner, you want them to say your
Speaker 4: name that you dropped it or you want to say
Speaker 4: your name that you caught it. He said, you got
Speaker 4: to make the play. You got to catch the ball
Speaker 4: before you they say your name. So it was like
Speaker 4: a light bulb came on in my head, like, you
Speaker 4: know what, if I'm gonna make the big catch, I
Speaker 4: gotta make the small one, you know what, I gotta
Speaker 4: make all of them count. And before you know it,
Speaker 4: From that sophomore year when he told me that my
Speaker 4: senior year. I remember Reggie telling me. He was like, man,
Speaker 4: you ain't missing nothing because it was in my head now,
Speaker 4: like you know, Reggie's catching that third down, that that
Speaker 4: fourth down, that second that he caught every pass. But
Speaker 4: I was just waiting for the bomb or the big
Speaker 4: play because I knew that that was my thing. So
Speaker 4: when I got consistent to make all those plays, that's.
Speaker 2: When my game changed. So yeah, I take consistency over
Speaker 2: you know, playmaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's a great that's a great
Speaker 1: way to talk about it. Right. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: when the as a receiver, when the ball is thrown
Speaker 1: to you, is it perfect, are you wide open? Do
Speaker 1: you catch it? As a dB? Are you in phase
Speaker 1: with the receiver? Can you punch the ball out? And
Speaker 1: then it's the same thing for offensive line, and it's
Speaker 1: really like how consistent are you winning one on ones?
Speaker 1: You know like in past and team run? Are you
Speaker 1: getting the combinations? Are you moving off the spot, same
Speaker 1: with blocking tight ends or the fullback or the running back.
Speaker 1: Are you consistently finding the holes? Are you elevating the team?
Speaker 1: And I think that's what you want to see from
Speaker 1: some of these guys like consistently like making plays. I'm
Speaker 1: going to use that term as like a catch all
Speaker 1: because that's what you used and I think that that
Speaker 1: that kind of fits. But like what types of plays
Speaker 1: are you making? Are you blocking the right guy as
Speaker 1: a receiver? Are you do you know where to line up?
Speaker 1: Are you motioning? There's a consistency and a and.
Speaker 3: I'm making the running back cut back in as a
Speaker 3: defensive bad you know, like these are the stuff that
Speaker 3: don't come up on the stat sheet. But dna X,
Speaker 3: why is the guy playing over the guy when these
Speaker 3: guys makes more play with This guy right here.
Speaker 2: Does the small right all the time. He does the
Speaker 2: small things right.
Speaker 3: So then when you get the difference between a Sean
Speaker 3: Taylor and Ryan Clark, Ryan gonna do all the small
Speaker 3: things right that ain't gonna be on the stash sheet.
Speaker 2: But then Seun, you're gonna look at this stash sheet
Speaker 2: and it's gonna blow you away.
Speaker 1: And he was here today, by the way, Yeah, Brian Clark,
Speaker 1: I got hit late. Yeah, but yeah, so Bryan Clark.
Speaker 1: Great stories anyway, So now the moment you've all been
Speaker 1: waiting for, we have a bakeoff and Fred obviously is
Speaker 1: the reigning champion. Right applause for Fred.
Speaker 2: But we do have the Book of smootook Book of Smooth.
Speaker 1: But we do have a new challenger and this is
Speaker 1: well a piano A piano rights. They were calling you and.
Speaker 2: Don't forget they text me yesterday. Why was it home?
Speaker 1: And a louder talk over Fred. I'm Fred's producer on
Speaker 1: Got Loud, if you guys know. And what she said
Speaker 1: is said, I need to humble Fred. And so this
Speaker 1: was her solution to get that done. So she came
Speaker 1: in talking a mighty big game and so Anna, what
Speaker 1: did we make today?
Speaker 2: So we're having a lemon cake bakeoff? Oh you guys
Speaker 2: probably want four? Yes? Please?
Speaker 1: So Fred, what's the what's the secret to a good
Speaker 1: lemon cake?
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, this is about dusting it at pain?
Speaker 2: See this with Anna missed up a little bit on
Speaker 2: that she didn't dust up pain.
Speaker 1: But I think my recipe, she.
Speaker 2: Says, she'd think a cake still stand a chance it's better.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, one of these looks way more moist.
Speaker 1: Is that a word we can use to describe cake? Moist?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And we also have intern Caroline here, Hi entern Caroline,
Speaker 1: are she here? She's here, she's here because I'm smell
Speaker 1: blind another room.
Speaker 2: You put your cake in that little fancy tin, and
Speaker 2: you think you've done something. You do this every time
Speaker 2: you have a bakeoff. You can bring the same tin
Speaker 2: the same cake.
Speaker 6: You really think you did?
Speaker 4: Know?
Speaker 3: That's how you gotta make Does she make her cake
Speaker 3: the same way she didn't?
Speaker 1: We'll see. We'll set the first bite of this really
Speaker 1: yellow one. There's one that's very yellow.
Speaker 2: Left.
Speaker 1: The moist one was very much.
Speaker 2: Say, I tell you, lemon coming out to the gate,
Speaker 2: the one with the uh m hm, that thing, it's
Speaker 2: the one without the Let me take your I know
Speaker 2: which one yellow?
Speaker 1: How do you know which one is?
Speaker 2: Because that's all when he brought it in.
Speaker 1: That's a pretty good lemon cake. It's very moist, very much, Carolyn.
Speaker 1: What we got? What's the what's the thought here?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know who's who's too?
Speaker 1: So I feel like this is gonna be a problem.
Speaker 4: No, don't don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: You can be honest, you can be honest.
Speaker 2: Let's won't get hurt. I'm gonna I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm proud of.
Speaker 1: How do you know which was? Like, how do I
Speaker 1: know which one of my place? You know which one's which?
Speaker 2: I brought him in?
Speaker 4: We do know which one is which?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and off of the way we got I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know which ones wich I'm in dumb, Like,
Speaker 2: I seriously don't.
Speaker 5: One is very very very lemony, very limited, very limiting kind.
Speaker 2: Of better of the.
Speaker 3: You know what coming in, You know, when you're at
Speaker 3: the top, everybody against you, like they wanted everything they wanted, Like.
Speaker 1: Carol, what you're talking about? You came in talking about
Speaker 1: how like you coming with the same pan all the time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, like had hate in a whole because I'm loyal
Speaker 3: to Zack Shelby.
Speaker 5: Person, poor Shelby.
Speaker 4: I wonder what all the fans think just hearing us
Speaker 4: like chewing into the microphones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is excellent. They're gonna look at me as
Speaker 2: they do. This is like this People's Choice podcast.
Speaker 1: This is the hardest one we've had to do so far,
Speaker 1: because usually I can tell right away what Zach does
Speaker 1: because he's got that extra little panache. Yeah, yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got like scrawbery or.
Speaker 2: Cake, and he got plumb.
Speaker 3: This is mine.
Speaker 2: Did you guys want to know what my strategy was yet?
Speaker 3: So I've witnessed.
Speaker 2: Zacham in here, and he every single time he just
Speaker 2: puts a little too much start, a little too much
Speaker 2: thought into it.
Speaker 3: And so my thought process going into this was, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna put almost no thought into this, just going, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna go, I'm gonna fall back on my training and.
Speaker 2: Just know that I am a good baker.
Speaker 1: These are both good.
Speaker 2: She got you to she.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 2: So this is what we did talking about consistency. Fred consistent.
Speaker 4: So I can't never just say Fred and Fred Zone
Speaker 4: is great is great too? Like that's just crazy. Like
Speaker 4: it's like I'm eating Amazon LIKEDMN.
Speaker 2: So you know which ones with? I know? Yeah, So
Speaker 2: which one do you like better?
Speaker 5: I know you're saying it's a close race, but.
Speaker 4: Like I said, freda consistent, But I actually like the
Speaker 4: more flavorable one, lot more lemon in it.
Speaker 2: One, alright, then more flavor. That's not that, that's not.
Speaker 1: It doesn't taste like lemon.
Speaker 2: Both taste like lemon.
Speaker 5: They both they both taste like lemon. It's just one
Speaker 5: is very like it's like punching you on the face
Speaker 5: with lemon.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yours. You made sure it was lemonade.
Speaker 1: I think Jason, go ahead, I think research a second
Speaker 1: what you got.
Speaker 2: They're both very This is definitely the hardest on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say, Anna, you need to be the
Speaker 5: new bakeoff challenger.
Speaker 2: Solby just take us. He just spends a little time
Speaker 2: to recover people.
Speaker 5: Like boxing, like you're in a tough boxing'll just get
Speaker 5: right back from the red that be a puss drunk.
Speaker 2: So he got three black eyes.
Speaker 5: He ain't got to take some time a little R
Speaker 5: and R for Selber. So this is good, and you're
Speaker 5: gonna have to challenge him again because it's really good.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Because it's like I can't I can't.
Speaker 2: Both. Yeah, he ate both pieces. You guys do banana bread, banana.
Speaker 2: I will ask afraid to make me a cake any
Speaker 2: day because he comes with him. All right, let's focus.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go I'm gonna pick I'm gonna pick Fred's
Speaker 5: only because only because like I'm not. It's this is
Speaker 5: a very subjective, like I'm just not a huge lemon
Speaker 5: just person in general. So the more lemon turn is
Speaker 5: like not great for me.
Speaker 2: But that's like that's not a knock to lemony. Okay,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm going with.
Speaker 5: It's very subjective.
Speaker 1: Also for me, I never have eaten both desserts all
Speaker 1: the way, both desserts first time maybe my life. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go the more LEMONI one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not Fred.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes I'm lying to Zach. Sometimes I'm lying to Zach.
Speaker 1: Yours was really really nice, good always, and it was
Speaker 1: just like I was in the mood for something a
Speaker 1: little more lemone.
Speaker 2: But yours was.
Speaker 6: But yours was really like That's why I had to
Speaker 6: get both, because I was like, oh, this one's good, Oh,
Speaker 6: this one's good. I know I'm gonna take me into
Speaker 6: piece with me, but this is legitimately the hardest bake up.
Speaker 2: Caroline. You one, Caroline, the first time I've seen you
Speaker 2: go down with honor, and I.
Speaker 1: Just love that for you.
Speaker 2: No, I can see him too tough. Yes, you're going
Speaker 2: to take him down. No, man, I don't look.
Speaker 5: He brings she's got the shovel with Yeah, this is
Speaker 5: the best thing that I've tried of yours.
Speaker 1: I'm like, not, I think this is the best best thing.
Speaker 1: She's tried to.
Speaker 2: I thought the banana playton was the best. I didn't try.
Speaker 2: That's so fast.
Speaker 4: You haven't tried yet almost, But like I should have
Speaker 4: took Fred's side, just put the technicalalty part of it,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But we'll have to have a rematch.
Speaker 2: Is so good. I did like An. I think I think,
Speaker 2: did you like Anna? Surprised me because I did you
Speaker 2: like Anna?
Speaker 1: Though?
Speaker 2: It was okay.
Speaker 1: To be honest now honest, but I get her props
Speaker 1: because like because sometimes, like with SELBYR, it's like it's a.
Speaker 3: Very clear no, no, I'm gonna get Anna he props.
Speaker 3: It was a it's a good case. It was a
Speaker 3: good cake, so and so John.
Speaker 1: For those for those at home, this is the most
Speaker 1: the most gracious we've seen Fred because I think I
Speaker 1: understand that this is good cake, and but Fred's cake
Speaker 1: was also very good. I wish you could taste them both.
Speaker 2: You got to taste.
Speaker 1: It's just his personal preference.
Speaker 2: Fred had that.
Speaker 4: Fred had that I just ate my mom Thanksgiving and
Speaker 4: that pound cake was sitting there and it was fight.
Speaker 2: You got that pound cake?
Speaker 1: That's good? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's on point.
Speaker 1: It's something very like comforting about it.
Speaker 2: Anna surprised, crap out of me. I ain't right, So
Speaker 2: I didn't know they were doing it like they and
Speaker 2: in Colorado.
Speaker 1: The crap it Okay, So so is this is this? Anna? Anna?
Speaker 1: Lemon cake win.
Speaker 2: We'll get Anna in the first Wow.
Speaker 1: And it's close. It's close. But so we'll have to
Speaker 1: do this again. Anna, you want to do it again?
Speaker 4: Yes, challenge accepted.
Speaker 1: All right, and fred how about Freddy gets to pick
Speaker 1: this on.
Speaker 2: The cake knickstat Oh?
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