1 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Battleground Podcast. Today we have an incredible, 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,319 Speaker 1: incredible guest. His name is Mark Casky. Mark is the 3 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: CEO of Steel Nation. He started that company with six 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 1: thousand bucks in his pocket and a spare bedroom, and 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:23,799 Speaker 1: over the. 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: Last fifteen years he's. 7 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: Grown into almost three hundred and fifty million dollars in sales. 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 2: He's a leader on all fronts. 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: And then we talked about, you know what it was 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: like starting a company, the fear that maybe ran through 11 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: his heart when he was investing that investing that money 12 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: in the first phases of Steel Nation. Obviously, we talked 13 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: about the importance of energy and you know, American energy independence, 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: energy dominance. I know I talk about this issue a lot, 15 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: but it's so so important. 16 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: I think it's the most important issue. 17 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: That we face today because it's woven into every fabric 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: of light. You like the lights on in the restaurant 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: that you're at, You like cheap energy bills, You like 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: filling up your car and not spending a lot of money. 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: It's all tied into the energy industry. You like having 22 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: a strong America, you like our enemies being weak. You 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 1: like America having the biggest baddest military of the block. 24 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 2: It's all tied in to our energy industry and Mark. 25 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: What I like about Mark is that we live at 26 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: a time where the biggest titans in the industry shall 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: Chevron BP. 28 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: They have all the money in the world. 29 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: To take the fight to the radical left and these issues, 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: who would, by the way, completely dismantle our energy industry 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: and lower the quality of life here in America for 32 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: basically everybody. 33 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 2: But all of the. 34 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: Companies that have the ability to take the fight to 35 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: them and shape a national, national narrative that is positive 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: about energy, they don't fight back. 37 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 2: It's like they appease every step of the way. 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: They feed the crocodile expecting to survive, but the reality. 39 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: Is they're just going to be eaten last. And so 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 2: Mark is a warrior. 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: He takes the fight to these people every single day, 42 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: not emotionally but fact based arguments. And so he's a leader, 43 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: he's an entrepreneur, he's a warrior. His company, Steal Nation, 44 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: is incredible. So without further ado, I really really. 45 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: Hope you enjoy my conversation with Mark. 46 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,960 Speaker 1: And as always, like if you like this show, you 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: like what you see, you like what you hear, please subscribe, 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: whether it's on Rumble, YouTube or wherever you listen to podcasts, 49 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: leave a review as well. I mean, all of these 50 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: things help us grow and it helps us with the 51 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: algorithm on YouTube, Rumble and Apple podcasts and in places 52 00:02:42,320 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: like that. So as always, thank you for listening. Hope 53 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: you enjoy my interview with Mark. Take care. Mark Caskey, 54 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: CEO of Steal Nation, Thanks so much for coming on the. 55 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: Welcome Thanks Sean, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 56 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: So you are a pretty remarkable guy, you know, as 57 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: anybody that follows me knows, I am. I am a 58 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: warrior for the oil and gas industry, and not just 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: because not just because I think it's important to be 60 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: energy independent, because but because I think it ties in 61 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: to every facet of what it means to be an America. 62 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 1: And it lifts up the middle class. It's good for 63 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: our economy, it's good for national security. It creates jobs, 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: especially in a place like Pennsylvania. But but one of 65 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: the things that frustrates me, and we talked a little 66 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: bit about this before going live, is that you have 67 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: all of these companies that have all the resources in 68 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: the world that just use the Left's talking points in 69 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 1: these climate activist talking points, and they don't. 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: Actually move the ball down the field. But you're not 71 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 2: like that. 72 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: You're a fighter, and in this this space desperately needs fighters. 73 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: Mark. That's that's the hell of a compliment. I appreciate 74 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 3: Sean On. You know, I'm self employed. I started Steel Nation. 75 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: We just celebrate our fifteen year anniversary. I come from 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: a coal background. I'm a Pittsburgh guy. I just had 77 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: an interview the other day with Mary Bessarucci, and I 78 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: kind of told her the same story. You know, in 79 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty the steel mills collapsed. I come from a 80 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: long line lineage of steel workers. First to go to college. 81 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 3: I was out there. There was nothing for me to 82 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 3: do in the steel industry. You know, most of my 83 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: family moved away. I'm the only one of six kids 84 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 3: left here in Pittsburgh for that reason. They all went 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: to Most of them went to went south for better 86 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 3: jobs and better pay. I got into the energy business 87 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 3: twenty five thirty years ago, building coal prep plants all 88 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 3: through Appalachia, Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Ohio, West Virginia, Ohio, Montana, Wyoming. 89 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 3: When when President Obama was elected in o eight. He 90 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: ran on the fact that we're going to shut down 91 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 3: coal when we're going to clean up clean up America 92 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 3: and clean up the air and things like that. And 93 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 3: I saw that, I saw the writing on the wall. 94 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 3: I started Steel Nation in two thousand and eight. It 95 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: was the middle of a horrible recession. In June eight 96 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,359 Speaker 3: to eight. You know, I had six thousand dollars, a 97 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: spare bedroom, that was about it. And I started this thing, 98 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 3: and I knew I had to find a new way 99 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: to do it. I learned the first fract well was 100 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: eight miles from my house here in Canadas, right around Cannonsburg, Pennsylvania. 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 3: I knew there had to be something out there for 102 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 3: me to do, and I did. But I've had two 103 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 3: strikes against us, you know, steel being imploded, and it 104 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 3: was a man made problem. You know, we gave it 105 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,799 Speaker 3: all the way to China, we gave it away to Russia, India, 106 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 3: you know, these Second and third World countries because they 107 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: don't have the pollution laws that we do. Certainly, certainly 108 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: Stele could have done a lot better, and we do. 109 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 3: We still manufacture in America. It's a lot cleaner than 110 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: it was back in nineteen eighty. But I saw steel decimated. 111 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,679 Speaker 3: I saw Pittsburgh decimated. What was once the most livable 112 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 3: place to live after you know, winning four Super Bowls 113 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 3: in the seventies. You know, it's a great town. And 114 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 3: it was that that wishing sound, that swooshing sound that 115 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 3: uh that Bill Clinton used to talk about, you know, 116 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 3: the NAFTA, you know, all all the jobs going down 117 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: south and going far south into South America. Uh, the 118 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh was decimated in the early eighties, a sad place 119 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 3: to be. I ended up moving away as well, spent 120 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: some time in California, San Francisco of all places, and uh, 121 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: you know, but I came back to Pittsburgh. My parents 122 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: were here. They they they were getting old and needed 123 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: some help. So, you know, the second strike, seeing two 124 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 3: strikes against coal, and it just decimated. We hear Joe 125 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 3: Mansion on the news quite a bit, you know, fight 126 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 3: fighting for the m v P line. We'll talk a 127 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: little bit about that hopefully. You know, West Virginia is 128 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: always the fiftieth poorest state, you know, uh, the worst education, 129 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 3: the worst schools and things like that. But Cole kept 130 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: them going and at least they tried so in two 131 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 3: thousand and eight when we saw fracking coming around or 132 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: horizontal directional drilling. West Virginia's, Pennsylvania's, Ohioans are the three 133 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: main You know, we benefited immensely to the tune of 134 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: seventy to eighty billion dollars that's brought into our economy 135 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: in the last fifteen years sixteen years. The one state 136 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 3: that didn't take advantage of it was the state of 137 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: New York. You know, the liberal governors that they've always 138 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 3: had up there want nothing to do with drilling. And 139 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: it's it's interesting. Marcella's Shelle gets his name from the 140 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 3: town of Marcellus, New York. Marcel's, New York is right 141 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: just north of Binghamton, New York, about twenty thirty miles 142 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: north where the actual shale. If we look at where 143 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 3: we're at in Cannonsburg, we drilled down probably eight ten 144 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 3: thousand feet depending on the formations and the elevations things 145 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: like that. When you get up to New York, the 146 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 3: actually shale comes out of the ground. You can touch it. 147 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 3: It's a cliff, you know, it's it's under all the streams. 148 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: You know, a lot of the streams up in the 149 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 3: town of Marcella's because the shell says it's so shallow 150 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 3: bubble methane, okay, and they use they use the left 151 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 3: will use the bubbling of methane as a man made thing. 152 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 3: It's a natural occurrence, right, So you know, so I 153 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 3: got two strikes against me. I'm not gonna let the 154 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 3: left shut down the Marcella's shale and all of American energy. 155 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 3: You know, we are producing more natural gas than any 156 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 3: other country. We are cleaning up our air more than 157 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 3: any of the country. We're producing just as much petroleum 158 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 3: as Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and all of our Middle Eastern friends, right, friends, 159 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 3: I said, you know, friends, right, you know, and and 160 00:08:55,880 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 3: and we're just gonna shut this down for some We're seeing, 161 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 3: we're seeing all the things that are happening here. We 162 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: shut down Homer City, which is a coal prep a 163 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 3: coal electrical plant in the last month, eight hundred jobs 164 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 3: just poof vantage. Homer City is going to be a 165 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 3: Third World country in the matter of months or years, 166 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 3: you know. And we're going to do that over and 167 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: over and over again throughout America. No, for some time, 168 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:24,479 Speaker 3: go ahead, I'm sorry. 169 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: No, I complete Look, I mean what you're saying, hits 170 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: really close to home for me. I'm from Pittsburgh, born 171 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: and raised, fourth generation Western Pennsylvania. 172 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: I grew up in the eighties. 173 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: I saw how decimated it was, and my family felt 174 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: that personally. Mark, my grandfather worked in the mills. All 175 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: his brothers worked in the mills, and when they were 176 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: shut down all along the waterfront there in Homestead, it 177 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: just decimated the area, you know. And also I've got 178 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: a lot of family that has strong ties to Weird 179 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: in West Virginia. That's another town that where I grew up. 180 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: It was bustling, but it was in transition. Within five 181 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: or six years, it was a ghost town. Everything was 182 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: shut down. Real estate prices all real estate prices and 183 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: Weird and crashed. Like you can buy you can buy 184 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: a home in freaking Weird in West Virginia for probably 185 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars even today. I mean, it's just like 186 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: real estate prices have completely bottomed out and those local 187 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: economies have never really recovered. And so this is something 188 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: that's deeply personal to me. And you know, I've saw 189 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh become revitalized when we tapped into Marcella shale and 190 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: in fracking and natural gas and all the abundant natural resources. 191 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 2: That we have here. 192 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: But if you look at what like are many of 193 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: these politicians for one generation after the next. And by 194 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: the way, Republican and Democrat have overlooked these issues in 195 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: so many different ways. Marked all you have to do 196 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: is take a drive. Because I've got a farm up 197 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 1: in Fomba. You probably never even heard of it, but 198 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 1: I know where Homer City is. I lived just outside Gillanople. 199 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: Take a drive through some of these small towns and 200 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: see how these policies have both Republicans and Democrats. Of 201 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: shipping you know, you say, sending you know, like outsourcing 202 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: steel to China, Well, that affects people in these talents 203 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: in neighborhoods, people that like you said, you were a 204 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: generational steel worker, right and so like like when you're 205 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: when that's when people don't understand that these types of 206 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: these types of jobs are legacy based, like your father, 207 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: your grandfather did them. So now you do them right, 208 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: and you pluck you take that away from people. And 209 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: then you have the left say something so callous like wow, 210 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: we'll just we'll just teach them how to use computers 211 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: or they can learn to code. I just think, like, 212 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: screw you, man, Like there has to be a line 213 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: in the sand where you know, people like us. By 214 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: the way mark, this freaking nation right now is a 215 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: wash with consultants. And I find myself wondering, like, does 216 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 1: anybody swing a freaking hammer anymore, you know, or or 217 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: do we just outsource all that work? And and it's 218 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: just frustrating to me because I've seen what these policies do. 219 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: And I think that's why, you know, I think that's 220 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: why so many people like President Trump. They might not 221 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: always like his comportment, or maybe they don't agree with 222 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 1: everything he says, but at least people have a sense 223 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: that he cares about the workers. 224 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 3: Right. It's funny. They don't want us to make anything 225 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 3: in America anymore. It's not just the war on American 226 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 3: energy independence. It's the war on capitalism. And it's not 227 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 3: just here in America. It's all over. Let's face it, 228 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 3: most of South America has gone socialists. Most of Europe 229 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 3: is socialist now, most of Asia is socialists. Our neighbors 230 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: to the north are pretty much the socialists and have 231 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 3: been for quite some time. You know. A real world 232 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 3: word example is new core steel, which is number two. 233 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 3: Cliffs is number one Indian owned by the way, all 234 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: through Toledo, Cleveland, you know, the Great Lakes area. But 235 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 3: newcor out of Charlotte, North Carolina put themselves on the 236 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 3: map forty years ago and they use a lot of 237 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 3: recycled steel. We but we end up buying a lot 238 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: of new core steel as well. Newcret looked at Ohio, 239 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 3: West Virginia, and Pennsylvania. They wanted to be right where 240 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:15,839 Speaker 3: you were talking about. With all the barges in Homestead, Uh, 241 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 3: Senator Fetterman's old area. What what better place to put 242 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: a steel. 243 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:24,520 Speaker 4: Mill totally in Braddock, Pennsylvania or across the river, all 244 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 4: these brown fields that were used for coal or for 245 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 4: use for steel making that have barge facilities. 246 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: As we have all this infrastructure in Pittsburgh that that 247 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 3: we could still use. Okay, and I'll get back to 248 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: that infrastructure a little bit here. But we didn't have 249 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: a chance. Okay. We have Reggie, Reggie threatening our Dorset 250 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 3: which is the regional greenhouse gas emission. Okay, that's in 251 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: every state around us, including Virginia, Maryland, all all the 252 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 3: left left leaning states, all the way up to New England, 253 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: New Hampshire, New York, all the way down. Reggie. It's 254 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 3: in the courts right now. In Pennsylvania, it'll probably come 255 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 3: out of the courts by the fall. I'm thinking, uh, Shapiro. 256 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: We're not sure if Governor Shapiro is going to support 257 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: it or not. But it's interesting that Governor Shapiro included 258 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: six hundred million dollars from Reggie. Okay, if we adopt Reggie, 259 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: with all these left states, Pennsylvania produces more energy than 260 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 3: all those other eleven states combined. Okay, are they producing 261 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 3: energy in New Jersey, in New Hampshire, in Maryland and Massachusetts? 262 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 3: Now we are. We're the breadwinners or we're producing all 263 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: of their energy. So who's going to pay the carbon 264 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 3: tax on that? Pennsylvanians are right, plain and simple, And 265 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: how how Governorship Shapiro can put six hundred million in 266 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 3: his budget on the first year of joining Reggie is 267 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 3: beyond me. You know, it's just politics. It's as politics 268 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: as normal. 269 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: So explain explain to people. You know, I know what 270 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative is, but explain to people 271 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: what specifically it is and why it's bad for our economy, 272 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: bad for our state and bad for the people of 273 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: our commonwealth. 274 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 3: Okay, so I don't know if you know this or not, 275 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: but I spent six years. I was appointed to the 276 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania Deep Citizens' Advisory Council and eventually made it to 277 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 3: the Environmental Quality Board for six years. I was appointed 278 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 3: by Judge Brandon Newman. I think you knew Brandon when 279 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: he was a representative. Brandon came. You know, Brandon, Brandon's 280 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 3: a Democrat right here in out of Cannonsburg. He's a 281 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 3: great wrestler by the way back in the day, and 282 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: still work out with the guy. And I don't want 283 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 3: to be in a dark alley with Brandon, but he 284 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 3: wouldn't be in a He's built like a bricke, you 285 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 3: know what I mean. Trying to keep my language clean here, 286 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 3: Sean Ill. 287 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: Hey, it's all good. Hey, this is it. You go 288 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: where you need to go. This is fine with me. 289 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 3: Eight nine years ago, he barges into my office, doesn't 290 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 3: even stop with the receptionist and starts pointing at me, 291 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 3: you know, raisingly. I said, come on back, you know, 292 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 3: Brandon representative at that time, and he said, I need 293 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 3: you on the Citizens Advisory Council of the d EP. 294 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: I'd never heard. I had no clue what it was 295 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 3: to begin with. He goes, he goes, we need some 296 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: oil and gas guys. We need coal guys on there. 297 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 3: We need we need we need nuclear guys on there. 298 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: We need solar guys, we need wind power, we need 299 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 3: everybody on there. And you're gonna you're my man. And uh, 300 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: you know Senator Sam Smith, I think he was a senator, 301 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 3: now maybe maybe he was a representative. He formally appointed 302 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 3: me to the board, so back in the day, eight 303 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 3: years ago, because it was two years ago when they 304 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 3: they they had a coup and got rid of rid 305 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 3: of me and some other pro energy people. I'll get 306 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 3: into that a little bit too. You know, it was 307 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: it was eighteen members, and it was a good mix, 308 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,880 Speaker 3: ten ten and eight you know, ten pro energy, eight 309 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: that were more Sierra Club conservationists, those types of things, 310 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 3: and it was it was a good mix. And we 311 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 3: got things done. And we debated back back when debate 312 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: was debatable so to speak. We can't we don't even 313 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: debate in this country anymore. We just throw throw bombs 314 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 3: across the aisle, right, And we got a lot we 315 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 3: got a lot done. And then when Governor Wolf got 316 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: serious about joining Reggie about five years ago, we looked 317 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 3: at it, we looked at the plans for it, and 318 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,959 Speaker 3: we knew right away it was the worst thing that 319 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 3: could happen to Pennsylvania. So the people, the nine or 320 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 3: ten folks that were pro energy on our side, we 321 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: fought it, and we fought it hard, and we had 322 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 3: facts and figures. The plan was done by Governor by 323 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,479 Speaker 3: by the d by by the Governor's deep that how 324 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 3: all these facts and figures that were just complete lives 325 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: Pennsylvania during that time, since we started fracking fifteen years ago, 326 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 3: has cleaned up one hundred percent better than any of 327 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: those eleven states in Reggie without paying carbon tax. It's 328 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: amazing how we have cleaned up and we've cleaned up 329 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 3: their air. But because they're using natural gas, New Jersey's 330 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 3: using natural gas rather than coal. Right, So for us 331 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:27,160 Speaker 3: to join Reggie, we've already lowered our missions every way 332 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 3: you can measure emissions and methane and knock and ox 333 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 3: and everything else. We've done what they were trying to do. 334 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 3: All their facts and figures that we can lower this 335 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 3: by doing we did it. Without the carbon tax and 336 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: without joining Reggie and those things. And that was our 337 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: biggest argument, and we tried to get that out to 338 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: the general public. Nobody knows what Reggie is, you know, 339 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: but only fourteen percent of Americans have any idea what 340 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: Reggie is. And most of those fourteen percent are people 341 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: that are involved with industry and are looking at their 342 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 3: checkbooks and the number of what it's going to cost 343 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 3: them a year in carbon tax in addition to what 344 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: we are to get taxed on. Right, and you look 345 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 3: at those money, they either have to raise prices, or 346 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 3: fire people, unemploy people, or go out of business. And 347 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: that's what we're going to that big swooping sound from Reggie. 348 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: Are are companies that are going to go to West Virginia, 349 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 3: are going to go to Ohio. 350 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: That's exactly right, I mean right now, Like there was 351 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 1: just a story on on Fox News the other day 352 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: about you know, sixty six percent of America is at 353 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,959 Speaker 1: risk for rolling blackouts like California. I mean, that is 354 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: completely unacceptable and it's also dangerous. I mean, you look 355 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: what happened in Texas when their grid was overwhelmed and 356 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: people like seven hundred people froze to death down there 357 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:50,680 Speaker 1: because of an over reliance on you know, an overreliance 358 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: on solar and wind and whatever other bullshit that they're 359 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: using down there. 360 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: These things are dangerous. And I think another. 361 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: Statistic was it like sixty six percent of Americans are 362 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 1: at risk of of having a real tough time month 363 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: to month. Like we're having a real tough time of 364 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: making ends meet because of rising energy prices. And Reggie 365 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 1: is gonna is going to skyrocket prices here in this 366 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: state because you know, companies are going to pass this off. 367 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 1: The companies that stay in Pennsylvania are going to pass 368 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 1: off the cost to the consumer, and their energy costs 369 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: are going to rise. Other companies that have the means 370 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,719 Speaker 1: are going to move across the border to uh, you know, 371 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: West Virginia or Ohio or another state where they don't 372 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: have to, you know, try to grow a company with 373 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: burdens and regulations that crush them at the same time, 374 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: And and and what's something that you were talking about, Mark, 375 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: about all of the things that market based innovation has done, 376 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 1: uh in the oil and gas industry, specifically with fracking 377 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: and our ability to decrease our carbon emissions to to 378 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 1: really a standard that is better than what was set 379 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: forth in the ridiculous Parish Climate Accords. We beat that 380 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: standard in Pennsylvania through guys like you who are innovating 381 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 1: every day and trying to get better. And even though 382 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: you're meeting all of these ridiculous bars that the radical 383 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: left and these leftist governors and politicians are putting out there, 384 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: it's not good enough. And that's how that's how I 385 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: know that it's not about conservation, it's not about the environment, 386 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: it's not about climate change. It's about crushing the energy industry. 387 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: Because to crush the energy industry is to crush people's freedom. 388 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: You know, if you know this, this whole push to 389 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: ban natural gas stoves, well, I mean, it'd be great 390 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: if the government could push a button and turn off 391 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: your electric so that you couldn't cook. This whole push 392 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: for electric cars not only does it empower our enemies 393 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: in China, because a lot of the rare minerals are 394 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: rare earth minerals that we need for the batteries are 395 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: owned by China, or China has market share on a 396 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: lot of those things. It'd be great if the government 397 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: could flip a switch and turn off your electric car 398 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: Oh you said you would be you would be public 399 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: Enemy number one. Mark like Mark uh ma, here's Mark 400 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: Cassi again. Say it's some crazy shit on LinkedIn. Turn 401 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: off his electric car, cut off his ability to cook 402 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: for the next week. That's what this is about. This 403 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: whole green movement is just communism painted green. It's complete, 404 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: it's complete bullshit. 405 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 3: Ay man, Ye know, I never never finished my story 406 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: about new Core Steel. New Core ended up in Charleston, 407 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 3: West Virginia. They have the barges, they have the rivers 408 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 3: down there, you know, And it was because of our 409 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 3: taxes in Pennsylvania. And Pennsylvania is not open for business. 410 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: You know, we are against business. So let's talk. No one. 411 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 3: You hit the nail on the head. It's not the 412 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 3: war on energy independence, it's the war on capitalism. Let's 413 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 3: think about Marx for a second, the Marxist in the 414 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: late eighteen hundreds. You know, let's create friction between the races, 415 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: between the sexes, between the haves the has not. All 416 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: this trany stuff is just planned. Okay, this is nothing 417 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: but plan. So we we look like the anti tranny 418 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: people when we do push back against this. Is this 419 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 3: has been planned for Pride Month every year, right, and 420 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: now it's just get getting it's bubbling up, and we've 421 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 3: had enough of it, and most of America has had 422 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 3: enough of it. Okay, so let's create problems with races. 423 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: Let's let's look at the George Floyd, what happened before, 424 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 3: right as COVID was starting. You know, I grew up 425 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,159 Speaker 3: in the Deep South. Before I moved to Pittsburgh, I 426 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: saw racism and it wasn't pretty. And I still see 427 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 3: it today when when I go back, I see it 428 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 3: everywhere I am. We're there's still a lot of racism here, 429 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 3: but they're trying to bring racism back. Do you see 430 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 3: that happening? You know, sexism? You know, we grew up 431 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: in the seventies, you know where the glorious steinem brought 432 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: women to the front and future as it should be, 433 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 3: where we're equal and the pay is coming up and 434 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 3: and all these things. It's got so much better. But 435 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 3: with the last let's let's create all these problems and 436 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: then let's implode America. Not from outside, not not from 437 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 3: pute and doing anything, not from China to anything. Let's 438 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 3: implode it internally, right, And that's exactly what we're seeing 439 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 3: right now. And I don't want to be the COVID 440 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 3: the COVID guy. But man, we fell in lockstock and 441 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: barrel on this COVID shutdown. Right, Did we push back? 442 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 3: We pushed back? Did most Americans push back the most? 443 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 3: Give me the job? I want more jabs, that's going 444 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 3: to save me, you know. And then so COVID even 445 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:41,119 Speaker 3: acted as a separation of of the voxers and the 446 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,160 Speaker 3: non vaxers, you know, So we continue that, the left 447 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 3: continues to create these problems, the sexes, the haves that 448 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 3: have bounce. It's breaking down America as we know it. Yeah, 449 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: the use it. 450 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: I mean, you're completely right. 451 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: I mean what's been I always say that, you know, 452 00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: when you see these companies and they're so we're a 453 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: wash with them today, Mark these companies that say diversity 454 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: is our strength, It's like it frustrates me because a 455 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: guy haven't been in the military myself and served with 456 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: people of every color, race, creed, religion, Like none of 457 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: that should matter to us. Like we were all Americans 458 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: at our core fighting for one mission. We all loved 459 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: each other and it didn't matter. So when people say 460 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: and companies say diversity is our strength, it's not necessarily true, 461 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: because it's only part of the story. What our greatest 462 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: strength in this country is and always has been, is 463 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 1: our ability to our ability to unify beyond those differences. 464 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: And as you said, I grew you know, I grew 465 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 1: up in like I said, in the eighties where we 466 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: were taught in social studies class, that America is great 467 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: because we're a melting pot. We take what's amazing about 468 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,719 Speaker 1: all of these other cultures and we bring them here, 469 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: and we don't discard the differences. But those people become Americans, 470 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: and that is shifted and and and part of this 471 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: is part of my issue with Republicans who are just 472 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: you know how all I care about is low taxes 473 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: and small government. And by the way, that stuff is very, 474 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: very important. But Republicans or the right has seeded all 475 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: of these little cultural fights that at the time were 476 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:20,439 Speaker 1: little but have grown into huge fires today. We seeded Hollywood, 477 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: we seeded the entertainment industry, we seated our schools, we 478 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: seeded the media. 479 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 2: All of these. 480 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: Small cultural fights for the past twenty years, we gave 481 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: them to the left and didn't engage on that front 482 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: because all we cared about was small government and low taxes, 483 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: which again is important. But we're seeing this play out 484 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: in real time now where the Left tries to divide 485 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: us among all of our many differences, because if we're 486 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 1: fighting amongst each other, we're not paying attention to the 487 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 1: horribly in irresponsible policies that they're implementing, like you said, 488 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: which is Reggie, which will absolutely crush this state and 489 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: crush the people, by the way, on both sides to 490 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: the isle. In fact, it will disproportionately affect lower income 491 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 1: people because you know, if energy prices go up, it's 492 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: not the top one percent that are going to have 493 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: problem putting food on the table for their families, or 494 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 1: filling up their car or heating their home. It's going 495 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: to be the people that make the least and they're 496 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: the ones that are going to be affected. So that's 497 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: why I always think that there's like a there's a 498 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: moral component to this argument as well. And I Mark, 499 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: I got to ask you, tell me about how a 500 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: guy like you, who's a generational steel worker goes from 501 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: that to becoming an entrepreneur with the first college educated 502 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: in your family. I think you said, yeah, becoming an 503 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: entrepreneur and building coal fired plants. How do you go 504 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: from you know, steel worker to entrepreneur. 505 00:27:53,680 --> 00:28:02,120 Speaker 3: You get fired from every job, you know, I try. 506 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 2: That's an amazing answer, that's a great answer. 507 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 3: It's God's honest truth. I've been fired through. You know. 508 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 3: My first job in high school was Brookside Lumber in 509 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 3: Bethel Park. And you know, the customer is always right 510 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: until you get that one customer that I had to 511 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: prove he was wrong, and I was fired that day 512 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 3: after five years of working there. Now, I try to 513 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 3: keep my ego intact, but I have a lot of 514 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 3: good ideas and I try to look at the world 515 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 3: from a lot of I try to look at it 516 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 3: from the left, from the right, and I try to 517 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 3: look at business the same way Sean. And you know 518 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: a lot of my early jobs were in construction. A 519 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 3: lot of them were family owned or tightly held. And 520 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 3: you know, my big question would always why are we 521 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 3: doing it this way? And the answer was, well, we've 522 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 3: been doing this this way since nineteen fifty two or 523 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: nineteen four, you know, however long this company's been in business, Well, 524 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 3: you're doing it wrong. Well know, I was usually showing 525 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: the door. The door that afternoon man growing up in 526 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,479 Speaker 3: Winston said in North Carolina. My dad left Pittsburgh. Mom 527 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 3: and dad left Pittsburgh to go work for Eastern Airlines. 528 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 3: And my dad loved the New South. You know, he 529 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 3: could he was a high school graduate. You know, he 530 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 3: could read pretty good. He was a Central Cafe and guy, 531 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 3: you know, at the time was probably at least a 532 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 3: two year second year of college, you know, back when 533 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: Central was really you know, putting out some really smart 534 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 3: people back in the forties and fifties. And anyway, grew 535 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 3: up in the South. We had a neighbor. His name 536 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: is Richard Budd, and uh we were really tight with them. 537 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 3: My brother and uh, one of one of their kids, 538 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: John Bud, were born at the same time, so our 539 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: mother's got to share uh maternity awards. So he became 540 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: good friends and ended up living, you know, right up 541 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 3: the street from one another. Richard Budd left his house 542 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 3: at three o'clock in the morning and he went and 543 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 3: cleaned office buildings and hadn't done before seven in the morning, 544 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 3: you know. And I can remember him doing this, and 545 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: then he worked all night and you know, started hiring people. 546 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 3: I watched him build a business and I helped him. 547 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: We went and he would pay us under the table 548 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,719 Speaker 3: a dollar an hour, you know whatever it was back 549 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 3: in the Remember remember doing yard work over in his 550 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 3: house and we had to pick green onions. He would 551 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: he would pass point zero three cents for every green 552 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 3: onion that we At the end of the day, you'd 553 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 3: make eleven dollars. 554 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: And you know, that's a lot of green onions. 555 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 3: Man, that's a lot of green Yeah, tell me about it. 556 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 3: But he was my idol. He was my entrepreneurial idol, 557 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 3: you know, right next to ROBERTA. Clementi and Dwayne Ammon 558 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 3: on the music side. And I just I watched Richard 559 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 3: Budd and today Bud Services they cover all the southeast 560 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: up into Maryland, all the way to the Florida and 561 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 3: Alabama and Mississippi, and they're over a billion dollars and 562 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 3: they still concentration is janitorial service for office buildings. Wow, 563 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,040 Speaker 3: the son is named Ted Bud. Ted Budd is now 564 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 3: the new Senator of North Carolina that was just elected 565 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: past November. 566 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 2: Get out of here. I did not make the connection. 567 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: That is crazy. I did not know that. 568 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 3: Our neighbors growing up, they they they think like I do. 569 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 3: They they're you know, very conservative on the way they think, 570 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: and they're very conservative with a with a pocketbook with 571 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 3: politics and everything else. And Ted Budd is going to 572 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 3: be a lifetime great. 573 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 2: So he's a great He is a great guy. He 574 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: is a great guy. He is I did not know that. 575 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 2: What a crazy, crazy small world, what a crazy connection. 576 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 3: Yep. 577 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: So this guy was so his dad, it was his dad. 578 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 2: That was your entrepreneurial idol. 579 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: Richard Bud. We called him uncle rich Yeah, that's crazy. 580 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 3: That's still alive and and still goes the office. Joe Joe, 581 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: who's my age, runs the company and does a great job. 582 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 3: And you know, they're just just great entrepreneurs. So growing up, 583 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 3: I always wanted to own a business. What am I 584 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: gonna do? You know? And finally, after being fired so 585 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 3: many times, I had to uh and uh and I 586 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 3: and I had a marketing my wife and I had 587 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 3: a marketing agency where we most mostly dealt with developers 588 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: such as you know like Rod piet Jack Piett were 589 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: clients Heartland Holmes, Ryan Holmes ed Ryan was a developed 590 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: and we helped them develop Southpoint Back and then they 591 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 3: really put us on the map. And that was before 592 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 3: I got into construction. Uh and way before I got 593 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: an oil and gas. But you know, that was kind 594 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 3: of my surf, the first first entree into entrepreneurship. What 595 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 3: kind of killed it? Didn't kill it. We could have 596 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: kept going, but everybody was getting their own computer. Everybody 597 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 3: was an artist. And you know these we have, we 598 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 3: have more megabytes on these things, and you know, just 599 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 3: the camera. And I'm tired of fighting technology. But you know, 600 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 3: I right as soon as I you know, my local 601 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 3: watering hole is Frankie Eyes up here on the Route nineteen. 602 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 3: And I got to meet all these guys from Louisiana 603 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 3: and Texas and Oklahoma driving these white trucks and you know, 604 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 3: wearing these fr clothing and things like that. And you know, 605 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: I got to meet these guys and these are real people. 606 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 3: They're just like our steel workers here in western Pennsylvania, 607 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: just like our coal miners here in West Virginia, Ohio. 608 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 3: The real guys. And they took me down to the 609 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 3: wing and they knew that coal was going down. They said, 610 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 3: why don't you learn how to do compressor buildings? And 611 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 3: I went to the original rens. Well, there's eight miles 612 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 3: across the hill over here, and they showed me the 613 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 3: ropesess and you really need to learn compression, and I did. 614 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: I stayed up for thirty six hours and many pots 615 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 3: of coffee and mountain dew, and I learned what compressor 616 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: stations were all about. They're loud, they're obnoxious. They're usually 617 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 3: in the middle of nowhere. But as you know, if 618 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 3: we look right in Cannsburg, we use I seventy nine. 619 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 3: On the east side of I seventy nine tends to 620 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: be dry gas, on the west side tends to be 621 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 3: wet gas. You know. So we're getting into the suburbs, 622 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 3: you know of Hickory, Pennsylvania, and Cecil Township and things 623 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,840 Speaker 3: like that, and it just amazed me. And when I 624 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 3: first visited the first compressor station, it was so loud. 625 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: I had ear plugs on, but even with ear plugs, 626 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,759 Speaker 3: it was like being in a jet you know, right 627 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: next to a jet engine. And I had that Eureka moment, 628 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 3: you know that above me, I can build these things cleaner, cooler, quieter, 629 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 3: and safer and at less costs. And I did. I 630 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 3: started the company two weeks after that, six thousand dollars 631 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 3: to my name. By ten o'clock that morning, the six 632 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 3: thousand dollars was gone. I used the deposits on buildings. 633 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,880 Speaker 1: Today, I want to talk about something that's been on 634 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: the minds of many Americans lately, energy independence. With rising 635 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: energy prices and geopolitical tensions, it's more important than ever 636 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 1: for our country to be self sufficient when it comes 637 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: to our energy needs. And that's where Deep Well Services 638 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: comes in. They're a company that's not only dedicated to 639 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: delivering top not services to the oil and gas industry, 640 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: but they're also committed to the goal of American energy independence. 641 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: With their cutting edge technology an expert team of professionals, 642 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: they're helping to unlock new sources of domestic energy and 643 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,760 Speaker 1: reduce our dependence on foreign oil. But that's not all. 644 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: Deep Well Services is also a great American company that's 645 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: hiring like crazy right now, and they're not just looking 646 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: for anyone. They're seeking out talented and hard working individuals 647 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 1: who want to join their team and make a difference. 648 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: And with competitive salaries and benefits, it's a great opportunity 649 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: to not only work for a patriotic company, but also 650 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 1: build a rewarding career in the energy sector. So if 651 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: you're looking for a job with purpose and meaning or 652 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: if you're simply passionate about American energy independence, then you 653 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: should definitely check out Deep Well Services. Visit their website 654 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,120 Speaker 1: at Deepwellservices dot com to learn more about their company 655 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:26,359 Speaker 1: and career opportunities. What was going through your mind? I mean, 656 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:30,520 Speaker 1: so put us in your shoes there, because so many 657 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: of the people that tune into us, our entrepreneurs, leaders 658 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: themselves in different industries and also worker. I mean, we've 659 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: got a national audience. But take us to that moment 660 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: where you are looking at that six thousand dollars in 661 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: your bank account and thinking, like, what are you thinking? 662 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: Like if you spend like because it's not it is 663 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: so difficult living paycheck to paycheck and not knowing what 664 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: the next month looks like. And you're taking six thousand 665 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: dollars and you're investing it into an idea that I 666 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: got to believe at the time, Mark you didn't. There's 667 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: no guarantees in life, especially in a business. So what 668 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: were you thinking? 669 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 3: So two things. Number One, I knew that this oil 670 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 3: and gas was gonna the Marcellus. The Marcellus miracle is 671 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 3: what I call it, showing I knew it was going 672 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 3: to take off. We had the infrastructure here to do it. 673 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 3: We you know, whether it was God or Mother Nature 674 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 3: put this under our feet millions of years ago. The 675 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 3: beauty of the Marcello's shell is so much shallower to 676 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 3: drill into. We don't have to go down twenty thousand feet. 677 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 3: We can go six thousand. As we get more closer 678 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 3: to Marcello's New York, it comes out, the shell comes 679 00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 3: out of the ground. So there's wells up in Tioga County, 680 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 3: the Susquehanna, you know, that are less than a thousand feet. 681 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 3: It's hard to do the horizontal drilling at less than 682 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,799 Speaker 3: a thousand feet, but it's a lot cheaper than going 683 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 3: down twenty thousand feet or even ten. So I knew 684 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 3: that there was There was only two competitors. They were 685 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 3: both out of Houston, and they'd been in business that's 686 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 3: the nineteen fifties, and I still compete against them today. 687 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 3: But I knew that we could be with my plant. 688 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 3: I was affiliated with a plant here in Ambridge that 689 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 3: is unfortunately it burned down about five years ago, out 690 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 3: of business. You know, a couple hundred people lost their jobs. 691 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 3: I knew that the plant that I was in steel 692 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 3: buildings already for a couple quite a few years before that. 693 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 3: I knew our plant could service them. I knew that 694 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 3: I could sell it. I knew that we could do 695 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 3: it cheaper, safer, quieter, cooler, and all the other. There 696 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 3: was another thing that I had in my back pocket 697 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 3: is when the company I worked for before, I had 698 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 3: worked for about a year on Warner Robbins Air Force 699 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 3: Base down in Warner Robins, Georgia. Okay, this is a 700 00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 3: huge plant, four hundred thousand feet. The planes came in. 701 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,479 Speaker 3: You'll know some of this. The planes every so many 702 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 3: cycles have to be rebuilt, so you have to tear 703 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 3: down the whole plane, take the all the skin off it. 704 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,320 Speaker 3: So they were redoing all the you know, the jet engine, 705 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 3: everything that went into the fighter jets, the bigger the 706 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 3: cargo planes and stuff like that. I had a real 707 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: good idea I was about to land that and that 708 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 3: was all that was a two point six million dollar 709 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 3: company or project. I'm sorry, I knew that was going 710 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 3: to come in. So that made that six thousand dollars 711 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 3: not as risky and I had, but it was still 712 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 3: a premonition. It could have gone wrong. But we within 713 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 3: three months in September of that year we did get 714 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,560 Speaker 3: this two point six million dollar contract to build that, 715 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 3: so that I had that in my back pocket. 716 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 2: So were you already ready to go? Mark? 717 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,920 Speaker 1: You already had the employees, the equipment, things that you 718 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,320 Speaker 1: needed to make that happen. 719 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 2: No, so how did you know? 720 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: So how did you scale up so quickly to get 721 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: it done? 722 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 3: You know? That's that spare bedroom was the best friend 723 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 3: I had, so I I could start working at five 724 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 3: and you know, work until ten at night, you know, 725 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 3: going to meet customers. But I knew enough people in 726 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 3: the business that I had to work with in my 727 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 3: previous job to join. You know, I had enough steel erectors, 728 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 3: I had enough concrete people. I knew a lot of 729 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 3: electrical companies here that were dying to get in this 730 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 3: business as well. You know, somebody told me, and it 731 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,319 Speaker 3: might have been Richard Budd from Bud Services. You know, 732 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 3: don't go into business with other people, and I didn't 733 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,279 Speaker 3: for many years. Now I have a partner in the 734 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 3: last three years. His name is Mark Dooley. Because he's 735 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 3: such a good president, he's the president of Steel Nation. 736 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 3: Now I'm the CEO and founder because he gets to 737 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 3: do all the work with the banks, and the human 738 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 3: resources and things like that I'm not very good at it. 739 00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 3: I'm good at selling and I've just designed twenty five 740 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 3: hundred buildings and I can sell. I used to eskimos, 741 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 3: but not really good at debits and credits and human 742 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 3: resources and ESG. Not to say that we're not a SG, 743 00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 3: but it's just not my vallet. 744 00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,240 Speaker 2: With Hey, every every every why. 745 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: Guy needs a how guy, you know, Yeah, yeah, exactly. 746 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: It sounds like he's your how guy. 747 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he du Duels does a great job, is his nickname. 748 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 3: But I just knew, Yeah, as an entrepreneur, you know 749 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 3: when things are gonna go that if if you look 750 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 3: back to eight, the rest of the country was you know, 751 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,680 Speaker 3: the Shearson Lehman's and you know, the other banks were 752 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 3: just imploding upon itself. Wall Street was was imploding. People 753 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 3: were losing their houses. They had these ridiculous mortgages, you know, 754 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 3: all the things that were happening in the recession of 755 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 3: seven eight. It was scary times. And I had to 756 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,520 Speaker 3: do it because I had no job to go to. 757 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 3: I had to create this thing, you know, and as 758 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,840 Speaker 3: an entrepreneur you have to believe in yourself. It is 759 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 3: similar to military. You have to believe in your platoon. 760 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 3: My eventual team that I did build, build, you know, 761 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 3: all the subcontractors that I had, I had lined, all 762 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 3: the subcontracts was up before I even incorporated. They were 763 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,120 Speaker 3: on board. And all of Pittsburgh companies just like just 764 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 3: like we are, you know, centered here now, they travel 765 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 3: with us. You know, they're out in uh and you 766 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,440 Speaker 3: just fin us up a job in Utah. Having a 767 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 3: bunch of them up in northern Pennsylvania right now, a 768 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 3: bunch in Ohio, bunch in West Virginia, Ohio, big time. 769 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 3: We're doing all kind of workover towards Cincinnati. It's it's 770 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 3: for oil and gas, but it's distribution. It's not the 771 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 3: compressor stations that were used to you know, it's but yeah, 772 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 3: the teammates that that we teamed up with fifteen years ago, 773 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 3: we still worked together and see each other all the time. 774 00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 2: No, I mean, and. 775 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: So you you built, so you you built this company 776 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 1: Steel Nation, six thousand bucks to your name and a 777 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 1: spare bedroom to over three hundred million dollars in sales 778 00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:58,320 Speaker 1: and two five hundred oil and gas projects completed. I 779 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,880 Speaker 1: mean that's yeah, in fifteen years today, right today's your 780 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: fifteen year anniversary. 781 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, push pushing three fifty three hundred and fifty million, 782 00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:11,239 Speaker 3: which you know, which is incredible when I when I 783 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 3: do the math, you know. 784 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 1: Looking back, what do you what do you think about 785 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: that those last fifteen years? Do you ever think that, well, 786 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: it sounded like you had an idea that the direction 787 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 1: that the oil and gas industry was gone with Marcella shale, 788 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: But do you ever think that it would be three 789 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million pushing three hundred and fifty million 790 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: in sales? 791 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,400 Speaker 2: Do you ever think that would be your future? 792 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 3: I thought it'd be higher than that by now. I 793 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,759 Speaker 3: thought I really thought that we would we would go overseas. 794 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 3: We're not ready to do that yet. The overseas markets 795 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 3: in oil and gas are very tricky. We're gonna keep 796 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 3: we're can he keep it domestic for for for a while. 797 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 3: There's no reason we can't get down to South America, 798 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 3: you know, going going to the OPEC countries are just 799 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,879 Speaker 3: culturally very hard to do. But yeah, I knew we'd 800 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 3: be this big, but I want to be bigger. You know. 801 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 3: We we were just going, we were doubling in triple 802 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,840 Speaker 3: every year until COVID hit. You know, twenty nineteen was 803 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,840 Speaker 3: our eighteen and nineteen. We were just gangbusters. Twenty twenty, 804 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,880 Speaker 3: you know, you started hearing about people getting sick in 805 00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 3: the fall, and there was nothing on the media about it. 806 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:28,359 Speaker 3: But the smart ones knew, the people that really paid 807 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:30,680 Speaker 3: attention knew there was something going on. At the end 808 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 3: of that year, and by January, we definitely knew. And 809 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 3: you know, I had COVID. I've never been I'm very 810 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 3: proud that I've never been jabbed, but I fought it off. 811 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 3: I fought it off with it. I re meced, and 812 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 3: I know this is off subject. 813 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: No, no, it's okay. 814 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: We can talk about this because because this is something 815 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 1: that I'm really passionate about. COVID really pissed me off. 816 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, like we actually had you said, people 817 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: listen to the government here and and so true. 818 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 2: But the way that we. 819 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,320 Speaker 1: Responded to COVID is shaking my faith in government in 820 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,919 Speaker 1: the way I'd never thought possible. They were talking about 821 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: our government locked people's private businesses down, locked people in 822 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,840 Speaker 1: their homes, forced them to mask up, knowing, knowing, and 823 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: I know that there was a lot of unknown especially 824 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,399 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the pandemic. And I get that, 825 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,360 Speaker 1: but like, there there were studies out there that cloth 826 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: masking was not effective. There were studies out there that 827 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: said lockdowns would not work. Yet they still locked us 828 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: in our homes and they closed people's private businesses. I mean, 829 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: like this is how I was running for Congress during 830 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: all of this. So it was it was like real 831 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: difficult to you know, run a campaign when everything is 832 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: shut down. But nonetheless, I was still getting calls every 833 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: day from businesses saying, like this is how I make 834 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: my living. I can't like you think about like a 835 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,239 Speaker 1: hairdresser or something with a small hair salon. I mean, 836 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 1: these people were these people were crushed. That was there, 837 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: that was the only way that they could make a 838 00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: living on Our government callous they shut them down like 839 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: it's insane. And not only that, like people were accepting, 840 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: people were accepting their loved ones dying alone. I mean, yo, 841 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,360 Speaker 1: you weren't allowed to even go say good body or 842 00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,240 Speaker 1: loved one because of COVID. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 843 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,839 Speaker 1: It just and that now we find out, like all 844 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,360 Speaker 1: of this stuff continues to come out. I mean, I 845 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: was one of the first people in January of twenty 846 00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: twenty to say, wait a second, there is a COVID 847 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: research virology like weaponized COVID research lab in Wuhan, and 848 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: we're saying this thing came from a wet market? Are 849 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,279 Speaker 1: you freaking kidding me like that. I'm not saying that 850 00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,080 Speaker 1: the Chinese like weaponized it on purpose, but maybe there 851 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 1: was a leak. I mean, maybe it got out in 852 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: another way? Are we too smart to use common sense? 853 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: And I was called a crazy conspiracy theorist. And look, 854 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: now you have all these vaccine experts, like this doctor 855 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: Hots guy who was refusing to debate Robert Kennedy Junior 856 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: on Joe Rogan. Now we find out that now he 857 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 1: had connections and along with the NIH to the Wuhan 858 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: Virology clinical log with Anthonyauci, these were the people that 859 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,720 Speaker 1: were pushing the policies on us all in the first place. 860 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,239 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is this is something I could 861 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 1: go on about all day. These people are corrupt liars 862 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: that hurt this country and we should never ever ever 863 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: give them amnesty. It just it makes me so upset. 864 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 1: And to hear that you're affected by COVID as well. 865 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,960 Speaker 1: Here you are growing like Gangbusters in eighteen, nineteen and 866 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 1: twenty happens. And you know, just like everybody else in COVID. 867 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 3: Well, you're not going to say someone to say it 868 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 3: it wasn't just China, it was the United States. Okay, absolutely, yeah, 869 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 3: let's speak throwing that this is going to take twenty 870 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:39,040 Speaker 3: or thirty years to come out. It's coming out right now, right, 871 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 3: it's it's Maderna, it's. 872 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 2: All the big that's exactly right. 873 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 3: It's Russia was involved, France was involved, Germany was involved. 874 00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 3: This is a worldwide thing to shut us down, you know, 875 00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 3: and it's the movement towards the left. What better ways 876 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,880 Speaker 3: can we check on? These people were gonna shut them down, 877 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 3: and let's see if they obey. And we did. And 878 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:09,319 Speaker 3: that's what's scary about the people that obeyed. What you 879 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 3: know on that subject, it's scary to me. The health. 880 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 3: The doctors knew, okay, the doctors knew that that that 881 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 3: these jobs were ineffective. They knew that. They knew that 882 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 3: imecan that that dose that I took, you know, I 883 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 3: five horse, had five horses. Then we went down. You 884 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,799 Speaker 3: have a tube. It looks like akulking gun because the 885 00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,279 Speaker 3: tube about a foot long, and it's for a two 886 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,879 Speaker 3: thousand pound horse, and it has all these lines in it, 887 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,439 Speaker 3: you know, and you cut it like a stick of butter. Right. 888 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 3: I said, well, I'm two hundred and fifteen pounds and 889 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 3: I'm gonna just take this much of ironmectin, and my 890 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 3: wife's gonna take this much, and my kids are gonna 891 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 3: take their grandma's gonna take it too. And we all 892 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 3: did and we came. It was the worst eighteen hours 893 00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,760 Speaker 3: of my life, but we were great. Two days later. 894 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,000 Speaker 3: Uh they went and got you know, tested again. It 895 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 3: was gone, you know. And so if I go back 896 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 3: to twenty eighteen nineteen, we're doing forty four million a year. 897 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 3: When COVID came in all the oil and gas shut down. 898 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 3: We were essential workers thanks thanks to some of my 899 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,400 Speaker 3: local reps that got all of our companies as essential. 900 00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 3: But we went down to less than fifteen million for 901 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 3: the two COVID years twenty and twenty one. We're going 902 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,479 Speaker 3: gang lessers right now. All those jobs that were shut 903 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 3: down are now coming back. We built the MVP in 904 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. In twenty nineteen, the Mountain Valley Pipeline. There's 905 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 3: you know, with the EQT being from Pittsburgh. The three 906 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:52,640 Speaker 3: stations that we built were Bradshaw Harris and Bradshaw Harris Installer, 907 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,880 Speaker 3: Bradshaw Harrison stallwarth Those are the three MVPs. The fourth 908 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 3: one is supposed to be called Lambert and when they 909 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 3: you know, these are the Steeler MVPs, which is a 910 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 3: great story. You know what, We built those four years 911 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 3: ago and the Left has been fighting us for more 912 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 3: than that for ten years now. Finally we're going to 913 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 3: get this thing done this fall. It come hell or 914 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 3: high water unless something crazy happens. But you know, Mansion 915 00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:23,560 Speaker 3: has movement forward, Biden has signed off on it. But 916 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,760 Speaker 3: we've seen crazy things happen, right. 917 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean what's crazy about is that pipelines 918 00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 1: are by far the safest way to transport this stuff. 919 00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 1: So what the left would rather have you drive in 920 00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,560 Speaker 1: on roads or trains, which is far more dangerous and 921 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:42,600 Speaker 1: far more it's far worse for the environment to do 922 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 1: it that way. So again, if the Left cared about 923 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: the environment, that they would want the pipeline technology. Anybody 924 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,879 Speaker 1: that's towards some of these pipeline facilities which I have, 925 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:54,399 Speaker 1: I mean some of these pipelines like some of these 926 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,000 Speaker 1: pipelines like have a zero ethane or methane tolerance, Like 927 00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 1: they've got censers on every so far in these pipelines 928 00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: that can detect just the smallest bit of methane. And 929 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: these companies have quick reaction forces to get out there 930 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:06,920 Speaker 1: and stop it. 931 00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,280 Speaker 2: And I mean these places like I mean. 932 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: If people watch Star Trek or Star Wars there, they're 933 00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,240 Speaker 1: like a damn space shuttle. 934 00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:14,200 Speaker 2: They're so advanced. 935 00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: Yet the Left, like these purple haired grad students that 936 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: are out there waving around these climate change signs that 937 00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:22,840 Speaker 1: don't know a damn thing about oil and natural gas. 938 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: That's the technology involved to keep it safe. They've never 939 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: been out to a site. They don't care about the environment. 940 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,600 Speaker 1: You know, who does care about the environment. The oil 941 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: and gas workers and the people that are out there 942 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 1: working those sites every day because they live in those communities. 943 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,520 Speaker 2: Of course they care about the environment. You know. 944 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,480 Speaker 1: Yet we're at war with these great patriots that make 945 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,880 Speaker 1: our quality of life better. People like you Mark and 946 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,400 Speaker 1: your company and your workers. They make this country better. 947 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:48,880 Speaker 1: Like you go to the bar at night, you go 948 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,080 Speaker 1: to a restaurant, like the lights are on in that 949 00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,360 Speaker 1: bar because of the work that you and your people 950 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: are doing. Yet the left is trying to shut that down, 951 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,360 Speaker 1: and they're using bullshit talking points in climate propaganda and 952 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,000 Speaker 1: climate chains. 953 00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,240 Speaker 2: And by the way, they've been wrong for the last 954 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,080 Speaker 2: fifty years. 955 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,439 Speaker 1: It was global coaling, then global warming, and now it's 956 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 1: climate change. Now it's like they've been wrong on every 957 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: major prediction. So why do we keep I know that 958 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: this is a rhetorical question for you because you're at 959 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,680 Speaker 1: war with these idiots every day, But why do we 960 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: continue to listen to these people? Like It's just it's 961 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: mind blowing to me. 962 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 3: The less spent nine billion dollars last year on fighting 963 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:30,799 Speaker 3: oil and gas. Wow, fighting just just nine billion. I'm 964 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,960 Speaker 3: guessing next year somewhere around eleven. They're winning the battle. 965 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:39,000 Speaker 3: They really are. You know, ten years ago when this 966 00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:43,320 Speaker 3: industry was really they wanted to do the severance tax. 967 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 2: You remember, I do, Yes, Pennsylvania did. 968 00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,040 Speaker 3: And we had about one thousand white trucks and I'm 969 00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:51,799 Speaker 3: getting let me, let me get my year correct. This 970 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 3: is probably two thousand. I started the coping in eight 971 00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 3: this is probably twenty ten. Between ten and twelve, we 972 00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,160 Speaker 3: had about a thousand and trucks through the Marcello's Shale 973 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:06,399 Speaker 3: Coalition was just starting at that time, and let's meet 974 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 3: in Harrisburg and let's bring our trucks right to the 975 00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:12,919 Speaker 3: bottom of the hill there and let's protest. And we did, 976 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 3: and we had our hard hats on, we had our 977 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,280 Speaker 3: fr gear on. I had everybody in my company there 978 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 3: and it was the best showing that we've ever had. 979 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 3: But since then, we've lost the momentum. We've lost. I 980 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:30,840 Speaker 3: believe that we've lost one hundred thousand workers oil gas workers, 981 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:35,120 Speaker 3: not just direct but companies like mine that to services. 982 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 3: You know, we lost twenty we had to downsize twenty 983 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 3: people during COVID. That's slowly slowly coming back up. But 984 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 3: we don't have those big rallies anymore. And you see 985 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,160 Speaker 3: what's in the news. I don't care if it's the Post, 986 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,439 Speaker 3: is that, the Observer Reporter, the Tribune Review. There's never 987 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 3: anything good to say about it all. 988 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 2: It's relentless. It's relenting. 989 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I lay this at the feet of 990 00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,359 Speaker 1: you know, BP shell shover on these huge companies, these 991 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: multi billion dollar global companies. 992 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,839 Speaker 2: You know, like, what are you doing? 993 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,520 Speaker 1: You know, they they should be I just feel like 994 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,799 Speaker 1: what they do, and I know I've met many of 995 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:16,520 Speaker 1: their lobbyists on Capitol Hill and in Harrisburg. I know 996 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,120 Speaker 1: them well and buy and large. I think they're great people, 997 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,359 Speaker 1: but they are content to just appease. And they think 998 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,440 Speaker 1: that if they cut a couple million dollar check every 999 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,640 Speaker 1: year to the right politician, the right pack, the right organization, 1000 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: that the left will relent and let them let them 1001 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,359 Speaker 1: stay in business. The end state goal is shutting them 1002 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: all down. No matter how much money that they give them, 1003 00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,319 Speaker 1: the left will never be happy with it, so they 1004 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 1: might as well fight to the bitter end. It's it's 1005 00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,759 Speaker 1: like they're like it's like appeasement, like they're feeding the 1006 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:51,800 Speaker 1: alligator expecting to get eaten last it. It's just these 1007 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,160 Speaker 1: companies need to fight back because look, we talked about 1008 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,480 Speaker 1: it earlier. Mark sixty six percent of the country right 1009 00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 1: now is at risk of rolling blackouts. I mean, what 1010 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: the hell is that? Like, No, what the hell is that? 1011 00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,200 Speaker 1: It's just so it's so crazy to me. 1012 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 3: Last week Shell came out and said, we're dropping a 1013 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 3: lot of this ESG stuff and we're going to drop 1014 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 3: our big move to wind and solar, and we're going 1015 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 3: to concentrate on what we do best, and we're going 1016 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 3: to see. I think the tides are turning. I'm I'm 1017 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,600 Speaker 3: I'm feeling good that that that. I think as Americas 1018 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 3: we've had enough of this this garbage, right, I think 1019 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:33,440 Speaker 3: so too. Man, I got something I want to bring up. 1020 00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 3: Two weeks ago Semens. Semens is the biggest, biggest company 1021 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,799 Speaker 3: in Germany. Angela Markel ten years ago said we were 1022 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 3: going to shut down fossil fuels, We're going to do 1023 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 3: nothing but solar and wind. Well, if you've ever been 1024 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:49,480 Speaker 3: to Germany, they're like Pittsburgh, you know, you get eight 1025 00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 3: days the sun a year, you know, and depending on 1026 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 3: how the wind blows, you know. So, uh, Semens just 1027 00:55:56,239 --> 00:56:00,239 Speaker 3: last week came out and with a major announcement that 1028 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,440 Speaker 3: said their wind turbines are defective and we have to 1029 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,400 Speaker 3: shut a majority of those down and everything that we 1030 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 3: have on order right now is not going to be 1031 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:15,280 Speaker 3: done for years. Okay, this is the biggest private company 1032 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 3: in Europe that has a major default on these wind 1033 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 3: things this past So we had that last week. What 1034 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:29,560 Speaker 3: we hear Monday morning morning that Lordstown Electrical Evs is 1035 00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:36,600 Speaker 3: shutting down, is in bankruptcy. How many? How many hundreds 1036 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:39,480 Speaker 3: of millions, if not billions, has put back into that. 1037 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,359 Speaker 3: Everybody remembers that's where the GM plant was, just north 1038 00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,799 Speaker 3: of Youngstown on the turn Ohio Turnpike. That we would 1039 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 3: always back in the day, we would set our uh, 1040 00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,920 Speaker 3: set our technome or set and see how long this 1041 00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,840 Speaker 3: planet was. It was one point two miles long, okay, 1042 00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,360 Speaker 3: and just as deep. And who who's the you already 1043 00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,200 Speaker 3: shareholder of that Chinese company? Okay? So Lord's town is 1044 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,000 Speaker 3: now out. 1045 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,640 Speaker 1: And by the way, how many taxpayer dollars? How many 1046 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,880 Speaker 1: subsidies did they get on the backs of the American taxpayer. 1047 00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:15,399 Speaker 1: Now they're out of business. And so it's these subsidies 1048 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,240 Speaker 1: that make it difficult for private businesses like yours to 1049 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,320 Speaker 1: compete with them because it's not a level playing field. 1050 00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,480 Speaker 1: So when you hear these politicians out there using these 1051 00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:29,120 Speaker 1: talking points about crony capitalism and subsidies for you know, renewables, 1052 00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 1: green energy, wind and solar, this is what they mean. 1053 00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 1: They're taking money out of your paycheck and they're giving 1054 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: it to these green companies that go out of business. 1055 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,840 Speaker 1: But you know who gets rich all the people who 1056 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 1: own them. And in this case it's the Chinese. It's 1057 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: a Chinese parent company. 1058 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 3: Let's face it. China start an investment in rare earth 1059 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 3: minds thirty forty years ago, all through South America, all 1060 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,280 Speaker 3: through Africa, all through Asia. Yeah, we have very few 1061 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 3: rarers here. We haven't. We have a moratorium on rare 1062 00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 3: earth's mining that mister Biden just put in, I believe 1063 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 3: two three months ago. Where's all the rare earth gonna 1064 00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 3: be mined? China owns those minds, as you know, child labor, 1065 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 3: slave labor, and all the rest, and you need all 1066 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 3: those we don't have them here to make the panels. 1067 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,840 Speaker 3: We can't make the panels here in America. They have 1068 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,800 Speaker 3: to be China has it locked up, and we're gonna 1069 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 3: We're gonna spend trillions, trillions and trillions and trillhies helping 1070 00:58:30,720 --> 00:58:31,439 Speaker 3: China out. 1071 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:35,560 Speaker 2: It's so frustrating. It's so frustrating to me. 1072 00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:38,800 Speaker 1: It's so frustrating to me because they do have market 1073 00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:40,640 Speaker 1: share in many of the rare earth minerals. So this, 1074 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,680 Speaker 1: like this transition to the Green New Deal, as these 1075 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,320 Speaker 1: idiots on the Democrats side of the House in Congress 1076 00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 1: talk about the transition to a Green New Deal, means 1077 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:54,640 Speaker 1: transitioning to like China being one step further of their 1078 00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:58,720 Speaker 1: global goal of being the world's loan superpower, making everybody 1079 00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 1: dependent on them. And you talk about you're a guy 1080 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 1: that started in coal, and I know a lot of 1081 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,280 Speaker 1: the a lot of folks in western Pennsylvania and in Pennsylvania, 1082 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: like Cliff Forest As one of them is a coal guy. 1083 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,560 Speaker 1: Like like you got why are we even shutting down 1084 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,320 Speaker 1: coal for example? And a lot of those plants have 1085 00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: like transition to natural gas or maybe they even went 1086 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 1: out of business, you know. But but China is putting 1087 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:25,440 Speaker 1: in two coal fired plants every week, you know. And yeah, 1088 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,640 Speaker 1: here we are not only are we shutting down our 1089 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: coal and other power plants and making it difficult for 1090 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: guys like you to do a business. In New York City, 1091 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: they're getting rid of coal fired pizza ovens for Christ's sake, 1092 00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean, are you kidding me? And China's putting in 1093 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:41,920 Speaker 1: two coal fired power How does this how does this 1094 00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,240 Speaker 1: save on global greenhouse gas at all? 1095 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 3: Like? 1096 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 2: What are We're doing nothing but lowering our own quality 1097 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,880 Speaker 2: of life at the expense of all of our enemies. 1098 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 3: The Kyota Accord, in the Paris Accord, were exactly the same. 1099 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 3: It was to make America pay worldwide. Why and we 1100 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:04,040 Speaker 3: were smart enough to get the hell out of that. Right, 1101 01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,760 Speaker 3: So to take that thought process to another level, Ohio 1102 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 3: and West Virginia have no plans on joining Reggie. They 1103 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 3: know it's evil. Right, you go back three months when 1104 01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 3: the Palestine East Palestine trained. That was some nasty, nasty 1105 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:18,800 Speaker 3: shit they were. 1106 01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Carrying right forty five minutes from my house, forty five 1107 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 1: minutes away. 1108 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 3: Right on the border of Pennsylvania. Right. If Reggie would 1109 01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,080 Speaker 3: have been in camera, Barblada and I were just talking 1110 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 3: about this a couple of weeks ago. If Reggie would 1111 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,840 Speaker 3: have been in Pennsylvania, all the fumes that leaked over 1112 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 3: from the train wreck into Pennsylvania, we would have had 1113 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,640 Speaker 3: to pay carbon tax in the tune of eight hundred 1114 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 3: and fifty to million to one billion dollars. That's how 1115 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 3: much fumes came off that train. There's no reason they 1116 01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,480 Speaker 3: shouldn't have been underground in pipelines. But that's a whole 1117 01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,640 Speaker 3: other story that they don't want to hear. Right, So yeah, 1118 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 3: So why is America America is always the cop you know, militarily, 1119 01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 3: you know we're going to be the peacemaker, and you know, 1120 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:06,600 Speaker 3: and have bases all over which which probably was a 1121 01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,080 Speaker 3: smart move, you know, back in the forties and fifties 1122 01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,520 Speaker 3: after WW two in Korea and all the rest. But 1123 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:16,640 Speaker 3: why are we always the peacemaker, the policeman. Why do 1124 01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 3: we always have the Kyoto Cords, the Paris Court, you know, 1125 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 3: we're going to clean up while China builds two Homer 1126 01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,160 Speaker 3: cities a week, and your numbers are correct, two Homer 1127 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 3: city size. They have no intention of lowering the amount 1128 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:34,360 Speaker 3: of coal. Neither does India, neither does Russia, and neither 1129 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 3: does any these third world countries. How are they going 1130 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:42,160 Speaker 3: to afford evs or solar panels or these massive turbines. 1131 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,760 Speaker 3: They can't. We always forget that one third of the 1132 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 3: world is still burning dung in their houses right outside 1133 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,720 Speaker 3: my brother lives in Thailand. There's no forest left in Thailand. 1134 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,480 Speaker 3: That's all they had to burn. They didn't. They don't 1135 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 3: have coal, they don't have nasty you know. So a 1136 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:04,400 Speaker 3: third of the world has no toilets, has no electricity. 1137 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,440 Speaker 3: You know. My friend alex As Epstein, which is he 1138 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 3: was on. 1139 01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:09,840 Speaker 2: Top of I love it. He's a great guy, very 1140 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 2: good guy. 1141 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 3: Fantastic. He you know, his his book is on the 1142 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:20,680 Speaker 3: fossil fuel use is saving the world. The longevity of 1143 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,880 Speaker 3: people that are now getting natural gas or call any 1144 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,200 Speaker 3: fossil fuels that are getting energy, it increases their lifetime 1145 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,400 Speaker 3: approximately ten years right now in today's that's a lot 1146 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 3: of years if you're if you're looking at the difference 1147 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,600 Speaker 3: between last year I didn't have any any energy and 1148 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,960 Speaker 3: this year I do boom ten year, improving in your lifetime, 1149 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 3: your quality of life, the maternity, you know, everything goes up. 1150 01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,840 Speaker 3: This is modern America. What are we like? You said, 1151 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:53,840 Speaker 3: sixty six modern America? Modern world? Okay, the Jetsons as 1152 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,840 Speaker 3: we were kids in the sixties watching this stuff flying 1153 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 3: around a little cars, we're there. We're there, and they're 1154 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 3: gonna take our energy off of us. We're sixty six 1155 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,440 Speaker 3: percent of Americans aren't going to be able to get it. 1156 01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 3: Maybe this summer, maybe this fall in the endo the 1157 01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 3: wintertime when we're when it gets cold. Think think about 1158 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 3: how cold it has been in the last three months. Right, 1159 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 3: we have this, We have these fires. You smell do 1160 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:22,680 Speaker 3: you smell that smell this morning? 1161 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Yet? 1162 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't smell like like wood burning. It to me, 1163 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 3: it smelled like the old sulfur that you'd smell in 1164 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,400 Speaker 3: the mills were booming in the seventies. And maybe this 1165 01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,560 Speaker 3: is a conspiracy theory of me. What if what if 1166 01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,640 Speaker 3: the left burn all those millions of acres up there 1167 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,840 Speaker 3: to call this global warming? Okay, But meanwhile, our air, 1168 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,440 Speaker 3: it hasn't been above eighty degrees in weeks. We're getting 1169 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,800 Speaker 3: on this smoke in this northern air coming down this 1170 01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 3: cold spell. But well it's climate change now, you know 1171 01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 3: everything wi this is so so damn cold in the 1172 01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,240 Speaker 3: middle of June. 1173 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,840 Speaker 1: I mean, well, yeah, by the way, I don't think 1174 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: it's you know, conspiracy theory. Many of these wildfires, you 1175 01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 1: get politicians like Gavin Newsoen coming out and be oh, 1176 01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,320 Speaker 1: this is climate change. You come to find out three 1177 01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: weeks later it was some kid in the middle of 1178 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 1: an It was arson, you know, somebody lit a fire 1179 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 1: on purpose. And so, yeah, the left, none of this 1180 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,720 Speaker 1: is beyond the left. I mean, this is what they do. 1181 01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,439 Speaker 1: And whether it's with you know, the Black Lives Matter 1182 01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:31,200 Speaker 1: or Antifa riots, you know, all of twenty twenty, you know, 1183 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: starting these fires and then blaming them on climate change. 1184 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:37,120 Speaker 1: This is what the left does. And why I think 1185 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,720 Speaker 1: we live at such a dangerous time is that the media. 1186 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 1: We don't have a real media in this country that 1187 01:04:43,240 --> 01:04:46,680 Speaker 1: actually reports the facts and calls them out. If we did, 1188 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:50,040 Speaker 1: they wouldn't be able to have freedom of maneuver like this, 1189 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, on the on the political battlefield, so to speak, 1190 01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 1: in America. And and so you know, I've kept you 1191 01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:00,880 Speaker 1: for like over an hour, and I'm for your time. 1192 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,720 Speaker 1: But let me ask you this mark, what do. 1193 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:03,439 Speaker 2: We have to do? 1194 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,880 Speaker 1: Like what are the next what's the next phase of 1195 01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 1: the operation to push back against these crazy people? 1196 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:13,400 Speaker 3: So me and a guy named John Gallo, and UH 1197 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:19,320 Speaker 3: and now Brian Lynn and UH Matt Leaper, the four 1198 01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:22,080 Speaker 3: of us so far, and Sonya Gonzalez she she works 1199 01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,920 Speaker 3: for you, G two, we have started the American Oil 1200 01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:28,920 Speaker 3: and Gas Alliance. Okay, I think I think you're familiar 1201 01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,400 Speaker 3: with a little bit, yes, from from some you know, 1202 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:36,240 Speaker 3: we we have many many alliances or similar organizations and 1203 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,160 Speaker 3: alphabet soup of organizations. I'm a member of all of them, 1204 01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 3: all of them from the Marcello's Shell Coalition A P, A, 1205 01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:45,840 Speaker 3: A A D. They're all great organizations, you know. We 1206 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,760 Speaker 3: all have my my little band, h my Southern rock band, 1207 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 3: and I don't know if you can see my my 1208 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 3: home studio here. I was having having trouble with my 1209 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,200 Speaker 3: internet at sophomore from my homes to you know. We 1210 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 3: we played at the Marianna Sportsman's Club. It was a 1211 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:02,480 Speaker 3: trout fishing tournament. It raised tens of thousands for charity, 1212 01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,440 Speaker 3: you know, those types of things for the American American 1213 01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 3: Patrollum Association, which is real heavy right here. But again 1214 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,360 Speaker 3: a lot of those are more involved in raising money 1215 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,400 Speaker 3: for charity and those type and scholarships and things, which 1216 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:21,000 Speaker 3: are all great things, but they don't really fight back 1217 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,000 Speaker 3: like we want to fight back. We want to be 1218 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,320 Speaker 3: on We want to be on Fox News, We want 1219 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:28,800 Speaker 3: to be on CNN. You know, we want to talk 1220 01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 3: facts and figures. I just wrote down something this morning. 1221 01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:36,600 Speaker 3: You know the Impact fees, Pennsylvania Impact Fees Act thirteen. 1222 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 3: If you remember your time, you know, this past year 1223 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:45,560 Speaker 3: set a record for all of Pennsylvania. The impact fees 1224 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,680 Speaker 3: were two hundred and ninety eight million dollars, pushing three 1225 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 3: hundred million. Last year was two hundred and seventy eight thousand. 1226 01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,400 Speaker 3: Washington County where I sit right now was the biggest 1227 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,240 Speaker 3: beneficiary at nine point one million. Susquehanna County was right 1228 01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 3: below that eight point nine to date. To date in 1229 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:11,240 Speaker 3: the last ten years since it was installed, totally paid 1230 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:16,400 Speaker 3: by oil and gas companies two point five billion total 1231 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:22,560 Speaker 3: billion to Pennsylvania number one. Where's all this money going? Right, 1232 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 3: where's Washington County or nine point one million going? You know, 1233 01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:34,080 Speaker 3: there's a lot of we're losing on the in the media, 1234 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 3: but there's a lot of great stories to tell. Like 1235 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,320 Speaker 3: I just said, there there's a lot of money involved. 1236 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:42,400 Speaker 3: We make a lot of money at Steel Nation. We 1237 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,080 Speaker 3: charge a lot more than we would in general construction 1238 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 3: building a house because there's a lot of safety involved 1239 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,880 Speaker 3: in those types of things. And you know, all this 1240 01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 3: protocol that we have to follow costs a lot of money. 1241 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:57,840 Speaker 3: We have a great story to tell. When I when 1242 01:07:57,880 --> 01:08:00,200 Speaker 3: I was on the Pennsylvania d EP, I would tell 1243 01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:04,360 Speaker 3: that story all the time. And and but I'm usually 1244 01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:06,880 Speaker 3: preaching to the choir kind of like you and I 1245 01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,520 Speaker 3: are right now. You know, but we need to get 1246 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,800 Speaker 3: out and in and on the CNN and and in 1247 01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:16,439 Speaker 3: front of the left. You know, this this this hair 1248 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,720 Speaker 3: that I that I wear there has has a couple 1249 01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:22,519 Speaker 3: of different different different meanings. Number one, my wife told 1250 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,839 Speaker 3: me to grow it. And the wife always wins anything. 1251 01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 2: Yes, I agree, the good decision, good decisive there. 1252 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:32,240 Speaker 3: This is a funny thing. Seven years ago, I'm playing 1253 01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 3: at the local local roadhouse and I get off stage 1254 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,080 Speaker 3: and my wife had a couple of glasses of wine 1255 01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,280 Speaker 3: and she goes, you look like a cop up there. 1256 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,120 Speaker 3: I said, some of my best friends are cops. You 1257 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:45,760 Speaker 3: know cut you know, we work out together in the gym. 1258 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,120 Speaker 3: She goes, no, if you're gonna if you're gonna play guitar, 1259 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,000 Speaker 3: you gotta have some hair. I said, okay, I'll grow 1260 01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 3: the hair. But uh what the hair does as well, 1261 01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,080 Speaker 3: and it allows me to do a little bit of 1262 01:08:55,160 --> 01:08:58,360 Speaker 3: infiltration into the far left eco terrace. Okay, And I've 1263 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:05,600 Speaker 3: done it twice and they accept me with open arms. 1264 01:09:05,880 --> 01:09:07,320 Speaker 2: You look like a hippie or something. 1265 01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:14,519 Speaker 3: Wear my Grateful Dead shirt and so you know. I 1266 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:19,200 Speaker 3: try to talk to the far left on this. Unfortunately 1267 01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:23,280 Speaker 3: they're not being You can't talk to them. 1268 01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,559 Speaker 1: It's like a religion to them. That's why I call 1269 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 1: it the International Church of Climate Change. They're all they're 1270 01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,120 Speaker 1: all religious zealots. 1271 01:09:29,120 --> 01:09:31,519 Speaker 2: About this stuff. They it's crazy. 1272 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:35,160 Speaker 3: I take them to oil gas sites. I show them, 1273 01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:38,000 Speaker 3: you know, the deps right over here, you know, in 1274 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 3: their truck taking notes, the Federal epas over here taking notes, 1275 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:44,920 Speaker 3: the Fish, Fish and Game Commission. When we're up north, 1276 01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 3: we're you know, the the and and all these different 1277 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 3: divisions are walking. We're the cleanest energy known demand nuclear 1278 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,800 Speaker 3: may be a little bit cleaner, but the three, the 1279 01:09:55,840 --> 01:10:00,360 Speaker 3: three bad publicity since you know, the early nineteen late 1280 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,000 Speaker 3: seventies only early and I have started three Mile in 1281 01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 3: Chernobyle and then the Fukajima one. We're never going to 1282 01:10:06,040 --> 01:10:08,920 Speaker 3: build another plant. The last one is being built right 1283 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:11,679 Speaker 3: now in Georgia. It's a small plant. We might see 1284 01:10:11,680 --> 01:10:16,719 Speaker 3: some miniature nuclear plants, but media wise, you know, nuclear 1285 01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 3: will never build another plant. So what's our alternative? Is 1286 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:24,799 Speaker 3: alternative covering up two thirds of America with solar panels 1287 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 3: and these ugly windmills that I don't know if you 1288 01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:31,240 Speaker 3: ever travel on the term never seemed like the windmills. 1289 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:35,679 Speaker 3: They never work, never work, and you know what they say, 1290 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 3: planned maintenance, planned maintenance. 1291 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 1: The windmills are going to end up like Pennsylvania roads. 1292 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,880 Speaker 1: For Christ's sake, that's going to be telling you who 1293 01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:44,719 Speaker 1: that's terrible. 1294 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,639 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe they work. You know, well, look look what's 1295 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:50,559 Speaker 3: happened in the ocean now, the all the right whales 1296 01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,800 Speaker 3: are turning up dead on the on the beaches of 1297 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:56,360 Speaker 3: Marsha's vineyard with all these people. They hate it, you know, 1298 01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:57,840 Speaker 3: not in my backyard, right. 1299 01:10:58,160 --> 01:11:00,599 Speaker 1: Can you imagine buying an ocean front house for probably 1300 01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,840 Speaker 1: ten million dollars or something like that, and then these 1301 01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,280 Speaker 1: government idiots putting a bunch of windmills out there in 1302 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:05,799 Speaker 1: the ocean. 1303 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,360 Speaker 2: Can you can you imagine? 1304 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:08,720 Speaker 3: I couldn't imagine. 1305 01:11:09,360 --> 01:11:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean, how does that make the environment look better? 1306 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 1: How is that cleaner? How is drilling for mining for 1307 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 1: rare earth minerals better for the earth. That's why it 1308 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,479 Speaker 1: keeps coming back to this. But if they cared about 1309 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,160 Speaker 1: that at all, they would totally embrace natural gas, it 1310 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:25,679 Speaker 1: would totally embrace fracking. 1311 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,320 Speaker 3: Well, my buddy's twenty thousand dollars trailer camp, you know 1312 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,120 Speaker 3: that sits on beautiful you know, off of ninety nine 1313 01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,400 Speaker 3: near State College, that he had the nicest view in 1314 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,599 Speaker 3: the history, and now it's just covered with praying manaces. 1315 01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 3: That are you know, maybe spending maybe probably not. You know, 1316 01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,599 Speaker 3: we're losing the war. But we think thanks to people 1317 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 3: like you in a lot of these other associations in 1318 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,320 Speaker 3: America for Prosperity. I was interviewed by them last week. 1319 01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 3: It was fantastic. We need to fight back and we 1320 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:01,599 Speaker 3: need to be realist about this. Uh. My buddy John 1321 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:04,040 Speaker 3: Gallop always says, we don't, we don't need to get 1322 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,800 Speaker 3: off on these political tangents which we tend to. You know, 1323 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,479 Speaker 3: we know, let's just fight fight fire with fire and 1324 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 3: use facts and figures and really do and look look 1325 01:12:12,160 --> 01:12:14,679 Speaker 3: at the carbon that we've cleaned up and the methane 1326 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 3: that we've cleaned up. You know, you know my eight 1327 01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:20,400 Speaker 3: years or my my yeah, my six years on the 1328 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:24,479 Speaker 3: the d EP. We always gave uh the public speaking 1329 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,800 Speaker 3: format for the first ten minutes. Anybody could sign up 1330 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 3: to public speak. Well, it's always the Sierra Club and 1331 01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 3: Earth Justice and you know, environmental justice warriors and and 1332 01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,439 Speaker 3: all that. And they would they would point to me 1333 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:37,800 Speaker 3: because the new line is the oil and gas guy, 1334 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 3: and they said, you're the biggest producer of methane in Pennsylvania. 1335 01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 3: And I had a little cheat sheet and I'd pull 1336 01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,840 Speaker 3: out my facts and figures, And I'd say, do you 1337 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,160 Speaker 3: know what the biggest polluter of methane is? You know, 1338 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:51,679 Speaker 3: in the in the world they say frackers, Your frackers 1339 01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:56,600 Speaker 3: are evil. No, Actually it's vulcan underground fissures in the 1340 01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,839 Speaker 3: earth and volcanoes underwater the oceans are the biggest releases 1341 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:05,519 Speaker 3: of methane. And you can't compare any the amounts of 1342 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,120 Speaker 3: methane that Mother Nature releases, whether it's up in Marcellus, 1343 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,559 Speaker 3: New York with a bubbling brook, or whether it's you 1344 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,680 Speaker 3: know over Faithful that every thirteen minutes goes off and 1345 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 3: people take pictures of their families, you know, out in Yellowstone, 1346 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 3: And that's methane. Methane naturally releases, you know, through the 1347 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:27,280 Speaker 3: ground and fissures and cracks and canyons and volcanoes and 1348 01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 3: everywhere else. When you look at man made that you know, 1349 01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:35,400 Speaker 3: the man made is really landfills number one. That we're 1350 01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,040 Speaker 3: starting to pull methane off there, which is good. We're 1351 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 3: doing big plant in the up by the Greater Pittsburgh 1352 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:45,080 Speaker 3: Airport right now, you know. So it's all these facts 1353 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:49,800 Speaker 3: and figures we fight back. The Mother Nature takes care 1354 01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,040 Speaker 3: of the first eleven. We're not till number twelve we 1355 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:56,360 Speaker 3: get into landfills. And let's not even go down about 1356 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:58,280 Speaker 3: cow farts, you know, and you know I'm still gonna 1357 01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:58,639 Speaker 3: eat meat. 1358 01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's eat the bugs live in a pod. 1359 01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,120 Speaker 2: That's what the left. That's what these as you say, Eco. 1360 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,559 Speaker 1: Terrice, that's what they want for for us, you know, 1361 01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,680 Speaker 1: that's the part of the goal. And yeah, I Mark, what, 1362 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,800 Speaker 1: So where can people find you? How can people support you? 1363 01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:19,640 Speaker 3: Uh? 1364 01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 2: What can people do to get involved to help? 1365 01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:26,720 Speaker 3: Like I said before, the American Oil and Gas Alliance 1366 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,840 Speaker 3: uh spelled out just like you hear at dot org. 1367 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,000 Speaker 3: We just started the website about two weeks ago. We're 1368 01:14:34,479 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 3: starting to have our we have our some fun driving 1369 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,519 Speaker 3: going on right now, some some really good sponsors. We're 1370 01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:45,120 Speaker 3: about to announce in the coming after after July fourth holiday. Uh. 1371 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:48,080 Speaker 3: That's where mainly find us right there. But all the 1372 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,400 Speaker 3: organizations center out there are worthy, you know, support them, 1373 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,040 Speaker 3: become a member. If you work in the industry, speak up, 1374 01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,400 Speaker 3: Speak to your neighbors, speak to your pastors, you know, 1375 01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,360 Speaker 3: the people that you go to church with, that you 1376 01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:02,120 Speaker 3: go to school with, and and talk about these things 1377 01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,240 Speaker 3: and let's debate it. Let's we've we've lost the ability 1378 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,599 Speaker 3: to debate. You know. We I make fun of how 1379 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:12,880 Speaker 3: parliament works in in in England and in Canada, but 1380 01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:16,200 Speaker 3: my god, can they they debate where we can't. You know, 1381 01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:19,200 Speaker 3: we just we just point fingers, you know, and AOC 1382 01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,160 Speaker 3: and her crowd, and they point it right back to 1383 01:15:21,560 --> 01:15:25,599 Speaker 3: you know, as hardcore you know, conservatives. Let's debate these things. 1384 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,160 Speaker 3: Let's let's look at facts and figures. Let's look at 1385 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:33,160 Speaker 3: where the greening of America is doing nothing, nothing such. 1386 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,000 Speaker 3: You know, we need more energy than we've ever needed. 1387 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,280 Speaker 3: These third world countries, a third of the world doesn't 1388 01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:43,320 Speaker 3: have energy. They're gonna need electricity and it's not gonna 1389 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:47,280 Speaker 3: be the ev electricity. They're they're gonna burn coal for this. 1390 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:51,320 Speaker 3: Let's do it right, Hey, we do everything right. We're 1391 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 3: the cleanest burners of coal. We're the best nuclear designers 1392 01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:00,400 Speaker 3: out there. Uh, natural gas by far, you know, they're 1393 01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:05,160 Speaker 3: they're talking about Russian National natural gas. Russian's natural gas 1394 01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:08,000 Speaker 3: has nothing that's so dirty you wouldn't believe it. And 1395 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:09,320 Speaker 3: I don't want to get to the science of that. 1396 01:16:09,360 --> 01:16:11,479 Speaker 3: I know a person of the clock. We do it 1397 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,720 Speaker 3: the best of anywhere in the world. And let's not 1398 01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:19,120 Speaker 3: let these this pipe dream. I shouldn't say pipe dream. 1399 01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,280 Speaker 3: We need more pipes, right, we need more pipes on 1400 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,880 Speaker 3: the ground. But this this silly pipe dream that we're 1401 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:29,160 Speaker 3: going to cover the world with these solar panels in 1402 01:16:29,160 --> 01:16:31,960 Speaker 3: one hundred years. We don't know if it's gonna be hydrogen. 1403 01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,080 Speaker 3: We don't know if it's going to be nuclear. It's 1404 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:39,360 Speaker 3: certainly not going to be solar. You know, we don't 1405 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,000 Speaker 3: know what's going to be out there one hundred years. 1406 01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,400 Speaker 3: And to shut down the economic miracle of the Marcellus 1407 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 3: and Utica Schelle for for Pennsylvania's Ohios, West Virginia mainly, 1408 01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,839 Speaker 3: and to shut down petroleum for this entire country energy 1409 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:57,560 Speaker 3: to go to some far fetched pipe dream is ridiculous. 1410 01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,200 Speaker 3: We need alf flight back on it. 1411 01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:02,320 Speaker 1: We said, God, we'll end it there. Man, I mean 1412 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,920 Speaker 1: I completely agree with you, Mark. I think you're awesome. 1413 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:11,360 Speaker 1: You're a warrior, Mark Casky, CEO of Steel Nation, six 1414 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,799 Speaker 1: thousand dollars in your bank account and a spare bedroom 1415 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,519 Speaker 1: pushing three hundred and fifty million dollars in sales in 1416 01:17:16,600 --> 01:17:17,360 Speaker 1: fifteen years. 1417 01:17:17,360 --> 01:17:18,759 Speaker 2: Man, like you're you're a leader. 1418 01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:21,360 Speaker 1: You're the exactly the kind of person that we'd like 1419 01:17:21,439 --> 01:17:24,200 Speaker 1: to have on this on this show, on this podcast. 1420 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,600 Speaker 1: So I'm very very grateful for your time, thanks for 1421 01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,559 Speaker 1: joining us, and we'd love to have you back at 1422 01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:31,480 Speaker 1: some point. 1423 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:33,160 Speaker 3: And I'll see it. See as soon we got to 1424 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:35,120 Speaker 3: meet and we met in person when you were running, 1425 01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,639 Speaker 3: but it was so fast. I'll see you soon for lunch. 1426 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:42,240 Speaker 2: Yep, you got it. Beers on me. Thanks Sean, all right, 1427 01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 2: see you, Mark. 1428 01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:43,200 Speaker 3: Thank you? 1429 01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:49,519 Speaker 1: Okay, everybody, that was it. That was Mark Caski, CEO 1430 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:54,560 Speaker 1: of Steel Nation. Thank you for listening to Battleground Podcast. 1431 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:59,240 Speaker 1: As always, never quit, never surrender. Thank you so much 1432 01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,120 Speaker 1: for listening. God bless you all, and God bless this 1433 01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:07,040 Speaker 1: exceptional country that we call Take care 1434 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:17,040 Speaker 3: M hmm