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Speaker 1: before we get to this week's episode, I want to

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Speaker 1: a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by

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Speaker 1: yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcasts, Weezy.

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Speaker 1: Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this

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Speaker 1: week's episode. This is Mandy be. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,

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Speaker 1: a production of The Black Effect Podcast Network and Iart Radio.

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Speaker 2: We didn't land on Plymouth Rock. The rock was landed

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Speaker 2: on us.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody, especially my classmates, to a very special episode

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Speaker 1: of Selective Ignorance. I'm your host, MANDYV. And maybe we

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Speaker 1: are going to educate and entertain this week with a

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Speaker 1: little bit of black history. For Black History months now,

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Speaker 1: we are getting into some they really tried it history

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Speaker 1: up at the top, talking about wild racist laws, laws

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Speaker 1: probably won't believe, and some that also just got criminalized

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Speaker 1: here in the US of A, which again will probably

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Speaker 1: surprise many of you. We're also going to have a

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Speaker 1: little bit of fun. We're talking about ridiculous propaganda. We're

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Speaker 1: talking black on black.

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Speaker 2: Crime, black played before.

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Speaker 1: Time, and negative black stereotypes on you know, on us

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Speaker 1: placed by other people. But the fun part of this

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Speaker 1: is gonna be also bringing up what the headlines may

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Speaker 1: have been if the Internet existed during historical black moments.

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Speaker 1: And then of course we're talking vernacular, we're talking fashion,

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Speaker 1: we're talking music, and again, hopefully some of y'all are educated,

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Speaker 1: so hopefully some of y'all lean back a little bit

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Speaker 1: from your ignorance, but more importantly, hopefully we make you

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Speaker 1: laugh this episode, because it's all about our history, baby,

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Speaker 1: apparently half of mine. But here on selective ignorance. And

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Speaker 1: once again I am joined by my souper bad producers.

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Speaker 1: We got someone who has zero black history in them.

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Speaker 1: We have Jason. Okay, I guess okay, my bad, I

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Speaker 1: forgot Puerto Ricans. I had Black history a little bit,

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Speaker 1: y'all mulattos someone you know what, maybe you got to

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Speaker 1: bring some Puerto Rican history and connect it to black history.

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Speaker 1: Although you got Latino history or I.

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Speaker 2: Don't. Nobody I got, I got my brother covered.

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Speaker 1: You got, I got cover, you got mister Roderig Right.

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Speaker 3: The Schomberg Center in Hall Them the collect Artifact is

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Speaker 3: founded by a Puerto Rican.

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Speaker 1: Listen, listen, this is mebody ignorance. That conversation refuses to

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Speaker 1: allow Hispanics to say the N word. But we'll get

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Speaker 1: into that later. To anyways, we are also joined by O. G.

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Speaker 1: Podcaster with the Brooklyn Black History.

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Speaker 4: We got eight here in the buildings peoples, my metric,

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Speaker 4: my matrilineal side from South Carolina for Fort Mott, Saint

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Speaker 4: Matthew's and they migrated during the Great Uh, the Northern

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Speaker 1: Yo, I ain't gonna hold you. There is so many

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Speaker 4: That's what about so so the opposite. I mean, we

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Speaker 4: can get into it later. But some ad vacations was

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Speaker 4: coming down to the South. That's why New York nigga's like,

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Speaker 4: this is home niggas, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: But talk your ship. Well, I'm also joined right alongside

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Speaker 2: We got Jason Jolly Pod Blessing, all the yap niggas.

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Speaker 1: Period. Now you're American, right, black?

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Speaker 2: I'm a Black American?

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Speaker 1: Are you black Americans?

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Speaker 2: Too? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: Black American with a little bit of Caribbean. Caribbean, my matrilineal,

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Speaker 1: Well, and my hear gonna be leaning into my biracial ignorance.

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Speaker 2: The podcast. Yeah, put the evil on.

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Speaker 1: But it's not white and it's not our history is

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Speaker 1: and so having done that class, but most recently learning

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Speaker 1: I had no clue who Fred Hampton was until Judas

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Speaker 1: So I wanted to say I wanted to share that

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Speaker 1: Who really were homes to the Black Panther Party like that,

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Speaker 1: knew more about Bob Marley across Safari than fucking Black

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Speaker 1: Panther Party. And so really seeing that movie, seeing how

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Speaker 2: He was twenty had started that in eighteen in their tea, and.

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Speaker 1: So seeing the wayans now compared to right, and so

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Speaker 1: Black history, it was really interesting how much I've learned

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Speaker 5: Yeah, my mom was that mom in elementary school who

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Speaker 5: would like if it was a black holiday, MLK Day,

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Speaker 5: She was the mom who gonna come to the school

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Speaker 5: and be like, y're gonna bring you aall some snacks

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Speaker 5: Because she didn't she wasn't coming at the school in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was very limited with what they taught,

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Speaker 1: not gone. It was Martin Luther King, Malcolm x Rosa

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Speaker 1: Parks Well and then I did and in Florida, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we got the conversation around is it so truth? I

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Speaker 1: believe so because she was from Saint Augustine, Is that no,

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Speaker 1: I'm confusing. Sorry, that's Ornel Hurston. So she's Jornel Harston's

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Speaker 1: from Central Florida. So there's a Orl Hurston Festival every year.

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Speaker 1: There is there is and art festival Black are all

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Speaker 1: these things. Elementary school comes out and you have different performances.

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Speaker 1: So it took place in Eatonville. So Eatonville is the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it, and that's the whole book reports

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Speaker 1: I mean again, Zorniel Hurston was big that that I

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Speaker 1: I love Denzel Yeah the movie X, like I always

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Speaker 1: Now real quick, what y'all not gonna do is make

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Speaker 1: Of my favorite. Yeah, you know what's crazy whenever I

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Speaker 2: Show the God on thee decratification of America.

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Speaker 2: The other one I wanted to bring back, you didn't

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Speaker 5: White people fled Compton, and when when black people started

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Speaker 1: They so not gonna hold you. I didn't know there

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Speaker 1: terms of Black history was the King Fires, Rodney King,

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Speaker 1: and the Beach in the meaning of Rodney King. But

438
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: even that was from an an Asian and black and

439
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:07,680
Speaker 1: police force like angle, and then it was fucking Tupac. Like,

440
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Speaker 1: I don't know much of California black history.

441
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Speaker 5: Well the thing, I don't know a whole lot about

442
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 5: California history, but I know as far as like the

443
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 5: West in general was obviously where a lot of Native

444
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 5: people were even up until like the World War Two

445
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 5: and like the nineteen forties, like when they had when

446
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 5: they were Japanese, like internment camps, on American soil, like

447
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 5: they were in California, they were in Wyoma, Yeah they Yeah,

448
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 5: they were in those areas where all of this wild

449
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 5: racist shit was happening. So yeah, it does seem like

450
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 5: they have a good pr I guess where it seems

451
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 5: like California is.

452
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Speaker 2: A place of like freedom and.

453
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Speaker 4: Because it was, it's that we didn't have social media

454
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 4: until nothing. Until that happened, we were like, Okay, it's

455
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: just palm trees.

456
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Speaker 1: And that's why I like, yeah, California had good PR

457
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: because even in our history books there's outside of the

458
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: Rodney King beatings, there's very limit it to like actual

459
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 1: documentation of history for us in the West.

460
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Speaker 9: La.

461
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Speaker 3: LA also has like a really bad like history with

462
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Speaker 3: their police. Actually a lot of a lot of stuff

463
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 3: did national police forces do, like in New York, Atlanta

464
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: and different places that was pioneered in LA. Like there

465
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 3: was just like one racist police chief, I forget his name,

466
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 3: but like he he set the like president, and a

467
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: lot of the policies that like people experience now came

468
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Speaker 3: from L A.

469
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Speaker 7: P D and the like the sixties and fifties.

470
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Speaker 5: If I'm not if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken,

471
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Speaker 5: I feel like I could be I think this is correct.

472
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 5: I could be wrong about this, but I think like

473
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 5: the crash units in l A and like having militarized

474
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 5: police and the police forces having those level of resources,

475
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 5: tanks and all that kind of ship, all of that

476
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 5: started in California.

477
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 4: Look at n w as not police violence in New York. Yeah,

478
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 4: want us a microscope of what's happening in their community.

479
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 2: In their community?

480
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right. Let's get into this other law.

481
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: By the way, why they got to make it such

482
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 1: a hard word mis misgenation, misagenation, So it's like misscellan

483
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,239
Speaker 1: misagenation laws. Now missagenation laws. This is where it's going

484
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: to be interested. Don't don't laugh at me with your

485
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: Puerto Rican action.

486
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: All right, So the origin.

487
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 1: Is the origin of it was the law that prohibited

488
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: its Actually no, my mom and daddy was never married,

489
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:50,720
Speaker 1: so this really was me. But maybe mind the second

490
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 1: line is me. So missagenation laws were the prohibiting interracial marriage, cohabitation,

491
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: or sex. They acted as early as the late seventeenth century.

492
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: These laws existed in thirty eight states at various times.

493
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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court ruled all these laws unconstitutional in Loving

494
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: versus Virginia in nineteen sixty seven, and there was a

495
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: movie made about it, Loving in two thousand and six.

496
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: So sixteen twenty sixteen, I'm sorry.

497
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

498
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,159
Speaker 1: In Florida, which you know, got to bring this up

499
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: to the US Supreme Court struck down Florida's interracial cohabitation

500
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: band in the mclauchan versus Florida case in nineteen sixty four.

501
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: So my mom and daddy followed the law when they

502
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: oh then made me. I will say it was interesting

503
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: though Florida, my mom walking around with three black girls.

504
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: They always thought that she was the babysitter, so until

505
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: she opened her mouth and they was like, oh yeah,

506
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: never mind. She definitely laid down with a black man

507
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: to make these babies. But yeah, I want to get

508
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 1: into a fun conversation about this law, specifically because there

509
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: is still, in twenty twenty six constant fucking conversation about

510
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: interracial dating.

511
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 5: Oh this is doctor Umar's favorite law. Listen, this is

512
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 5: his favorite Lave my God.

513
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Speaker 1: Most recently, though, RG three posted a picture of his

514
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: family on what was it Martin Luther King Weekend? Yes,

515
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: do we have h Do you want to pull that up?

516
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: And read what's caption was, and also just we'll get

517
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: into the overall controversy of what we've specifically been seeing

518
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: happening around the conversations around black men and white women specifically.

519
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: All Right, so he says here, never let skin color

520
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 3: determine your love or how you treat people. I didn't

521
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 3: fall in love with gret because of her skin color.

522
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 3: I fell in love with her heart. An incredible wife,

523
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:59,959
Speaker 3: unbelievable mom, and beautiful soul. Love recognizes what's inside. Thankful

524
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 3: to know what real love is.

525
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: Okay, John, you're shaking your head because, like I just

526
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: want to know, because this would be nice if if

527
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: a nigga said this is about my mama, So I'll

528
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: be wanting to know.

529
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 2: What the because the funny the funny.

530
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 5: I'm shaking my head because as I'm listening to it,

531
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 5: if if you didn't know that it was RG three

532
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 5: saying that, you would think that it was like one

533
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 5: of these corny white women saying that, Like that sounds

534
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 5: like what a white woman says about a black man

535
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 5: that she's fetishized and that she has like oh, love

536
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 5: is love and.

537
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: All of this other ship. Like I don't see color

538
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: and blah blah blah.

539
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: I think that was the line, like the love has

540
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: no color, love has so we're moving color when also

541
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:49,480
Speaker 1: photo photographed in the picture are four beautiful black girl

542
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: exist as black women for sure. So like to bring

543
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 1: up like the no color thing because of your white

544
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: wife while you're being pictured with girls that will not

545
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 1: pass and will not ever get the privilege of a

546
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: white experience and actually will be thrown into the world

547
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: because of their color. That's when I think this whole

548
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: we don't see color can't be publicized or even mentioned

549
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: in that way. Yeah, because you're you're completely like not

550
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 1: acknowledging the experience that your own kids will actually have to.

551
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're disavowing the whole fact that it's like okay, fine,

552
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 5: like you're you're married to a white woman, but like

553
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 5: your that doesn't make that doesn't make you white, That

554
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 5: doesn't make your kids white. No, Like, like they're going

555
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 5: to experience a lot of shit that you're gonna need

556
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 5: to prepare them for and they won't be able to

557
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 5: go out in the street and say, don't call me

558
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 5: a nigger and my mom's white.

559
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,240
Speaker 1: Mind to cut it saying that color doesn't matter when

560
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: you literally have to address it in an Instagram policy.

561
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: That's like you can literally just address the love for

562
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: your wife, the love for you, or like once you

563
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: have to bring in color, then it's not color doesn't

564
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: matter because now you're addressing the naysayers, You're addressing the

565
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: people that are impacting your your psyche with the fact

566
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: that you have created a family with a white woman.

567
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: And then on Martin Luther King day, you know the

568
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: history and oh that was the thing for me, Like, like.

569
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 4: That was that Martin Luther King's dream And that's that's

570
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 4: my biggest issue with it, is that bro, this man,

571
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 4: this man was assassinated for trying to ensure that black

572
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: people get liberation, get freedom, get equal rights.

573
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 5: And that involves a lot of different shit. What I

574
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 5: can guarantee you is it probably like very last on

575
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 5: the list was so niggas can fuck some white bitches.

576
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 5: Like that wasn't the very last thing, if it was

577
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 5: even on the list, but like that was it was

578
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 5: Martin Luther's King.

579
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Speaker 1: Do you think when he thought of freedom and segregation

580
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: and it like, did you think Martin Luther King in

581
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: his mind thought freedom was we being able to fuck

582
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: our press.

583
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 5: Deth nigga, got shot with with water hoses, got attacked

584
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 5: by dogs, got threats all the time, were surveilled by

585
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 5: the United States government. I don't think he wouldn't think

586
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 5: about no damn, like and we can go to snowbody party.

587
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 2: And we could go to them like. That wasn't part

588
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 2: of the thing. That's not the reason we're doing an emphasis.

589
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: But I don't think it was.

590
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: I don't think he did anything to prevent messing with

591
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 4: ally should either. Yeah, he wanted all yeah, you know,

592
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 4: people who are adjacent are part of the agenda, you know,

593
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 4: or the movement itself, so to speak, you know, shout

594
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 4: out to the newbie and white queens.

595
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: See, okay, so newbie and white queens exist. Can we

596
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: come up with a list of what black men are

597
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: doing white woman partners?

598
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: Right? Okay? Also right, okay, zero okay.

599
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 1: Omari Hardwick got with a white woman who happened to

600
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,360
Speaker 1: be a casting director in Hollywood who pretty much was

601
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: able to get him infiltrated into Hollywood where he became

602
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: a prominent black male actor. Now then he got into

603
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: whatever be if he got with fifty cent and who

604
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: knows where what's happening with his career right now. But

605
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: he does white woman, right.

606
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 5: I think that I would say, uh, Eddie Murphy is

607
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 5: on the top of my list somebody, because like, Eddie Murphy,

608
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 5: don't get no static.

609
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: For being with for having a white wife.

610
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 7: That's because he had a black white first.

611
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: That right, Yeah, he ain't stay black though, Jay.

612
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 5: What I was like, is that really the coat of

613
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 5: arms that it should be, because I'm like, he left

614
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 5: the white the black woman to go get with the

615
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 5: white lady.

616
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: But nobody gives Eddie staty for that.

617
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 3: Everybody, you're not going to get Eddie had a full

618
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: relationship with her, like he was married, they had five

619
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 3: or kids.

620
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 2: Like I feel like if you're just like.

621
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 7: Popping out and you're like, ah, I'm playing in the snow.

622
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I'm gonna say it.

623
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 2: Snow is crazy, iced Tea.

624
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 4: Right.

625
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: Not only does he do white we're right. I love

626
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: that he is so feminist that he lets her look

627
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: like a prostitute every time they go. Shout out to

628
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: a man who is so confident that he allows his

629
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: woman to also be sexually liberated and look like a

630
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: bimbo every time she walks out by the way when

631
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: I say these words prostitute, I'm pro sex work, bimbo.

632
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm here for a woman being able to embrace

633
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: her sexuality, especially right next to her man. And so

634
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: the fact that not only does he like y'all can

635
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: talk ship this my queen and all he was he was,

636
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 1: also allows her to be her and has never made

637
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: that change, has never felt like he had to explain

638
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: his choice and a partner. I think he does white woman.

639
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 5: Right, I mean that's how you're supposed to carry it though, right,

640
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 5: because there's a difference between and.

641
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: Also, Coco don't bother us.

642
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no history. Nothing came up about Coco.

643
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: She never was.

644
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 5: There was never no like audio tape with Coco saying

645
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 5: nigger in the pastor like that. Like Coco is clean slate.

646
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 5: Like the worst thing you're gonna say about Coco is

647
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 5: all she's the sex. Yeah, a sexual image.

648
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: And that's okay, okay, okay.

649
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 7: But I think there's a chef shout out to ic

650
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 7: Ty's first lady though. He was with this woman, Darlene.

651
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: Darlene.

652
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's she's on the cover of his.

653
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I see original.

654
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, a cover of power, the shotgun with the throng

655
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 5: that Darlene, Oh wow, dar But there's a difference between

656
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Speaker 5: Puerto Rican.

657
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Speaker 2: Didn't take you long?

658
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Speaker 4: So what is it here?

659
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Speaker 1: I go you there's a solid three fould names, last

660
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: names that maybe you waspanic. It's funny because me and

661
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: my best friend was just talking and somebody called but

662
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: the last name was white but they were black. She

663
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: was like, black people have the last name white, And

664
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Speaker 1: I said, well, you know, the names come from the masters.

665
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, like so there's a lot of.

666
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Speaker 1: Black people with white last names as well, and did it?

667
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, do we Okay, so we have a list

668
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Speaker 1: of three. We have Omari Harwick, Eddie Eddie Murphy, and

669
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Speaker 1: Iced Tea. Are there any other black men that do

670
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: white women?

671
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 7: That's that's a list of one.

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Speaker 3: To me, I feel like Omri is the only one

673
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: that clears the bench because he went straight to it.

674
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: He went straight to the snow outside.

675
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Speaker 1: So because the other men started with black women and

676
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: ended with white women, they kind of have markers.

677
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Speaker 3: You know, it's not markers, but I feel like that's

678
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: like it's hard to pend down that. Like r G three,

679
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: you know his you know what his preferences, you know what,

680
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 3: his choice, because that's.

681
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Speaker 1: Why I didn't list like, I'm not for the and

682
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: I talked about this across all of my platforms. I

683
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Speaker 1: don't like the pro black men who have the white

684
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Speaker 1: wives because I don't see how that's the hypocrisy in

685
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: that right. I don't see how you're pro black, pro

686
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: black love, pro black. All of these things create movies

687
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Speaker 1: and films and music around blackness. And oh you got

688
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: Jordan Poole, you have childish Gambino, you have, give me

689
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Speaker 1: some more. I know down uh as Donald Glover, I know,

690
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: I like.

691
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Speaker 6: To call them between estimating them, especially in Hollywood, both

692
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Speaker 6: of them, both of them, I think it underestimating what

693
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Speaker 6: it is to and then all the NFL, God, damn it,

694
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 6: how about that whole NFL.

695
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 4: These women are just merely feeding their spirit. They can't

696
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: look on the outside, you know, for validation. They look internally.

697
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 4: So maybe that's yeah, she's looking at me crazy. Maybe

698
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 4: that's part of why we see this.

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Speaker 5: No, there's a there's an ignorant name that popped up,

700
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Speaker 5: but I had to I had a double check. I

701
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 5: want to make sure there's an ignorant name that I

702
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Speaker 5: could say that it's on the list of people get

703
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 5: talking they're pro black that are with a white woman.

704
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Speaker 5: Sidney Poitier. Oh, no, slander, No gonna slander Sydney Poitier

705
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 5: on this podcast. I'm just saying that Sidney Poitier did

706
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: a lot for us, and I'm not gonna lie.

707
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Speaker 1: As charming as he is, I ain't gonna hold you.

708
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Speaker 1: I don't think Obama becomes president if he had a

709
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Speaker 1: white wife, if Michelle was not black. I don't think

710
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: we as a community, with all of the underlying issues

711
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: we have in snow Bunnies, would have even we wouldn't

712
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Speaker 1: have had a first black president if Barack was with

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Speaker 1: a white one.

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Speaker 7: Because it's Sydney Sidney. By the way, Sidney, his first

715
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Speaker 7: wife was a black fifteen fifteen Hold on.

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Speaker 9: Look, you're thinking, do you think the vote that's a

717
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Speaker 9: great so the the optics, I mean, I mean, I

718
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Speaker 9: hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Because because maybe the conversation about Kamala was that her

720
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Speaker 1: husband was yeah, yeah, conversation.

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Speaker 5: There would be people who would raise that issue for sure.

722
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Speaker 5: I think there's any doubt about that. The only thing

723
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Speaker 5: that I would say is that if the question would

724
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Speaker 5: be is what would the allegiance be to with Would

725
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Speaker 5: the allegiance be to uh, the feeling about black men

726
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Speaker 5: and white women, or would the allegiance be to all right,

727
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Speaker 5: I maybe I'm not with that ship, but this nigga

728
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Speaker 5: I could be president. I got to eat that for

729
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,320
Speaker 5: this nigga to be president, to see if black president,

730
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Speaker 5: I'll eat his white wife. Hey, yo, that's okay, Okay,

731
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Speaker 5: your white wife sounds crazy, But people might be willing

732
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Speaker 5: to be like, ah, whatever, if we can have a

733
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Speaker 5: black president.

734
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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna trip off that.

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Speaker 2: That's just something that just I don't know, it's a

736
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Speaker 2: fair thought.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: But the point I would add to all of this

739
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Speaker 5: is that there's a difference between my wife is white

740
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Speaker 5: and I have a white wife, Like like if you like,

741
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Speaker 5: so if you let's say we were let's say we

742
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Speaker 5: were hanging out in l A somewhere right and we're

743
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Speaker 5: at a party and somebody says, oh, we're gonna go

744
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 5: after this, we go to my crib. Let's go it's

745
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Speaker 5: right down the street's right in Beverly Hills.

746
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Speaker 2: Let's just go to my crib.

747
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Speaker 5: That's not like flexing that you live in Beverly Hills.

748
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Speaker 5: You're saying, my house is right down the street. We

749
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Speaker 5: could just go right there. We're in Beverly Hills, let's

750
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Speaker 5: go there. It's a difference between saying that and like, oh,

751
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 5: why don't y'all come to my Beverly Hills house?

752
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: Like that doesn't read the same.

753
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Speaker 5: And so like when you're talking about like r G

754
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Speaker 5: three's case, when you constantly have to keep talking about

755
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Speaker 5: your white.

756
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Speaker 2: Wife, you're a white wife, your white wife.

757
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: You're identifying her as as her whites.

758
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Speaker 5: Hubert Davis went through the same thing when he got

759
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 5: on the press conference and was like, I'm proud, I'm

760
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 5: a proud black man, but yes, I'm also proud of

761
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Speaker 5: my white wife.

762
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Speaker 2: Like, you sound crazy, You sound like that sounds like

763
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Speaker 2: a crazy thing to say.

764
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Speaker 5: So if you're saying your wife is white in reference

765
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Speaker 5: to whatever, just the fact that she's a white woman, okay, fine,

766
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Speaker 5: But when you're constantly talking about my white wife like

767
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 5: that sounds a little bit crazy.

768
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Speaker 4: You don't sound like you're doesn't sound like a good faiths.

769
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Speaker 1: And I guess from a from a fake outrage standpoint

770
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: of it. It goes literally back to our history and

771
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Speaker 1: white women wanted black men because of the fetishism that

772
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Speaker 1: they were stronger, bigger, Dick's men didn't go all these things.

773
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Speaker 1: And then in the other sense, it was black men

774
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Speaker 1: and the white women were normally like that's that, that

775
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Speaker 1: was the prize, Like white women were held to such

776
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Speaker 1: high esteem in society that being chosen or being able

777
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: to be with a white woman was seen as a

778
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Speaker 1: badge of honor essentially.

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Speaker 5: And also like it's it's the same thing that the

780
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Speaker 5: same thing that would attract a white woman during a

781
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: certain period of time to a black man is the

782
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 5: same thing that would get that black man killed because

783
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 5: he's strong, because he's big, because he's a threat as

784
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Speaker 5: just being a black man, like they'll kill his ass.

785
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I just think we just missed one person

786
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: who does white women good.

787
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,879
Speaker 1: No, no, no. The conversation was black men.

788
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Speaker 4: Partners, women partners right in this case, I'm married, right,

789
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Speaker 4: partner whatever. Justice Clarence Thomas, Oh, Jesus trust it's true.

790
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Speaker 5: I mean, I mean or dies, I mean yes, you

791
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 5: will lie still cheat for that man, and.

792
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ, I did not see that one coming back.

793
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 2: You know who didn't black.

794
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: Women, right, who didn't do black women right?

795
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 4: Who?

796
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: No, who did who? Did white black men? Who did

797
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 2: white women wrong?

798
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: Who?

799
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 5: Like Jonathan Major's did white women wrong? He did it

800
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Speaker 5: the wrong way, He did it the wrong, He did

801
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Speaker 5: it the very wrong.

802
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: He did it very wrong, and then got saved by

803
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Speaker 1: marrying black woman right.

804
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,919
Speaker 2: After Shanny Sharp, You did white women wrong?

805
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 1: Buddy?

806
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 2: Sorry a Sharon? What's your man from Michigan University of Michigan.

807
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: We did it.

808
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 2: He did it wrong twice.

809
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he spun the block back and tried to get

810
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 4: a white woman remix and still did it wrong.

811
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Speaker 2: Did it wrong?

812
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Speaker 1: Well? I want to get to real quick some recent

813
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,720
Speaker 1: laws that have taken place, So if y'all were unaware,

814
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 1: this is crazy. The Crown Bill that exists only in

815
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Speaker 1: New York. The Crown Act in New York was signed

816
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: in July of twenty nineteen, and that is actually a

817
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: bill that was passed to prohibit discrimination based on natural

818
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: hair and hairstyles associated with race, including bray locks and twists,

819
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: in both workplaces and schools. That was really interesting. I

820
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: got to live in New York when that took place,

821
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Speaker 1: and y'all probably heard my story. I actually left Corporate

822
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 1: America in July twenty nineteen. But when I worked at

823
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: Goldman Sachs, I remember crying because I had to go

824
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: to my senior my senior partner. I was going to Miami,

825
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 1: and bitch I wanted braids, and I was the only

826
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Speaker 1: black person on my team. I was like, I'll take

827
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Speaker 1: them out when I get back. And I literally had

828
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: to have a conversation my mom, because she's white, put

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Speaker 1: me on a phone with one of her coworkers because

830
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: she didn't even know how to have the conversation with me.

831
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: And I was literally in this corporate setting, working at

832
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: fucking Goldman Sachs, and I was scared shitless to go

833
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: to work with braids in my hair. And so that

834
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: literally passed as I left my corporate career. Another one

835
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Speaker 1: which is really interesting and more recent, lynching did not

836
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: become a federal crime until March of twenty twenty two.

837
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: So it was officially and finally designated as a federal

838
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: hate crime, making it punishable by up to now thirty

839
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 1: years in prison. But again, the Emmettel Anti Lynching Act

840
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: was not signed until March of twenty twenty two, which

841
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: is nuts. Now, this is where we like to spend

842
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: our hard earned dollars in the State of Georgia. Jason,

843
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,480
Speaker 1: can you pull up the clip that explains the Georgia

844
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Speaker 1: House Bill ten thirteen that is looking to be passed

845
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Speaker 1: by Georgia Lawmaker Rep. Eric Bell of Jonesboro, of Georgia.

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Speaker 8: What's one of the most Atlanta things probably ever? There

847
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,320
Speaker 8: is now a push at the state capitol jamake a

848
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Speaker 8: lemon pepper the official chicken wing flavor of the State

849
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Speaker 8: of Georgia. State Representative Eric Bell, a Democrat from Jonesboro,

850
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 8: has introduced House Built ten thirteen, is bipartisan legislation. It

851
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 8: would designate lemon pepper as the State of Georgia's official

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00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 8: chicken wing flavor, recognizing the cultural, culinary and community significance

853
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Speaker 8: of women pepper wings across the state. Now and an

854
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,879
Speaker 8: online release, Representative Bell acknowledge that this is a lighthearted bill,

855
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 8: but said it carries real meaning. He said, well, lemon

856
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 8: pepper wings have become a staple of Southern cuisine and

857
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 8: Atlanta and across Georgia, going on to say that women

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00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 8: pepper wings are fan favorite that bring people together across race, culture, class,

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Speaker 8: and community. And of course, you know his statement also

860
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Speaker 8: had to mention Limon pepper Loo and Magic City as

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Speaker 8: well as.

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Speaker 1: And of course the strip.

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Speaker 8: CLU will of course keep tracking this and let you

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Speaker 8: know the faith of this legislature.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm a.

866
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: Lot you will and the strip club gets mentioned in

867
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Speaker 1: legislation legislation? Will that is crazy? What are your thoughts

868
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: on this? Because yes, there's a lot of things that

869
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:10,120
Speaker 1: we fight for. What are your thoughts? So I hadn't

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00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: a kids laughing he's laughing in.

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Speaker 2: Brooklyn, right, I'm on the first flight.

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Speaker 4: So I saw that this was like a thing, but

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Speaker 4: I didn't see a picture of the person who was He.

874
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Speaker 1: Looked all of thirty five years old.

875
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 5: And I should have been known that this was somebody

876
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 5: like young. He looks like somebody who thinks this would

877
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 5: be dope. But don't we want don't we want the

878
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 5: youth to get in? Don't we feel like the people

879
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 5: are old and out there.

880
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: I want the youth to get in and do some

881
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: real ship. I don't want the.

882
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,800
Speaker 5: Youth to get in and do legislation content like I

883
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 5: don't want it to be a TikTok that you're using

884
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 5: legislation for bro like that ship is.

885
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: Like you have time for that you may you look

886
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 2: like a lemon pepper nigga.

887
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 4: He was like, if I made a product like a

888
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,360
Speaker 4: lemon pepper shaker, he put his face as the representation of.

889
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: He looked like.

890
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 2: He looked like Lemon Pepper. Like I see Lemon Pepper

891
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 2: canting out of all the things in twenty twenty six.

892
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: I know that's going on.

893
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 4: I know I ain't going people are hurting out here.

894
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 4: Homelessness is a crazy issue in Atlanta.

895
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: No, we we push it for Lemon so the Republicans.

896
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 2: Then here we go this niggas.

897
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, go ahead, Yeah, oh we got that, y'all. Y'all

898
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 4: niggas want some chicken. There was no al vote for that.

899
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, everybody niggas given what is it?

900
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: Who clones tyrone?

901
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: Yeah that type of Yeah, you.

902
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,919
Speaker 1: Get voted into a position of power and again, yeah,

903
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: this is what you use your voice for.

904
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 4: What's in the other episode, Hungry as Fuck Hungry af Watch,

905
00:49:57,840 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: They're gonna have the Eric Bell Lemon Pepper.

906
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they did.

907
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: Their menu was was named pretty interesting. I'm not even

908
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: gonna hold you. I ain't even gonna lie, but I

909
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: told you Lemon Pepper was dusted on every single wing. Almost.

910
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 5: Okay, I put lemon pepper on my avocado toes like

911
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 5: a couple of days ago.

912
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: And that it was very Atlanta. It's a lemon pepper

913
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: nigga right here, avocado toes.

914
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: You merged two different economics. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

915
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: California would never bro Just don't don't od on it,

916
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: but just give it a little, a little dash.

917
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:44,959
Speaker 2: That's what happened when these fake storms making up avocado toes.

918
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: Lemon.

919
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 4: I might try to. I ain't gonna lie JJ. If

920
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 4: you ever had j J fish down here? Oh yeah,

921
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 4: the season they fish.

922
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,839
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie the season and all down here

923
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 1: is very much high.

924
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: Body hooter a week ago. And now she's said here

925
00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:13,880
Speaker 4: talking about who got high cholesterol?

926
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 2: You see how niggas do finished. That's all right, that's

927
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: the that's the that's the advantage of being biration. You

928
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: just man history.

929
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: We're not doing that a black.

930
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 2: You are absolutely I'm.

931
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: Black, and some black people that are all the way black.

932
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 2: I will never don't.

933
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: Get me started. But you you're a lemon nigga. You

934
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: and mister Bell gonna.

935
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 2: Be right down second.

936
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: You're gonna be you're gonna be the low sodium version.

937
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 7: Of the little at the gallop when when the log

938
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 7: is past, all right.

939
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: Well before we before we uh leave a little bit,

940
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: I want to have some fun and and and this

941
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: is a America. One of the things is freedom of

942
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: speech and press. Now, that was a part of the

943
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:11,320
Speaker 1: First Amendment. And what's really fun about how we're in

944
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: taking at you know, news now is that it's right

945
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,919
Speaker 1: at our fingertips. And as y'all know, I'm sitting next

946
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: to the headline king, So I want to have some

947
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: quick fun with you it. Hopefully you can figure this

948
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: out off the dome. And if you guys are new here,

949
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: this is the editor of Boss Up. And if you

950
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 1: guys were on black Twitter back in the days, you

951
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 1: absolutely have seen his mind in words.

952
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 7: What was the headline you did when Obama got elected?

953
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: Do you remember that?

954
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 2: Oh man?

955
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 7: That was a classic one.

956
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 2: That's the crazy part about it.

957
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 5: The crazy part about the headlines is that it's like

958
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 5: I write them and then forget about it. Like I

959
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 5: see them, I see people retweeting them, and I'm looking

960
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 5: at what's going on. But like the day after I

961
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 5: probably couldn't even tell you what myself.

962
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: Can I read it? Please? Please jock my memory?

963
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 7: All right, so that says here making it rain on

964
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 7: gop holes.

965
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, quote bringing in big bucks. Obama has become

966
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 3: the first president in history. Oh this is a different

967
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 3: one to raise more than one billion.

968
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 7: During his political career.

969
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, hold on, let me find that. Hold on.

970
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: Oh man, I want to read another one about Obama

971
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,759
Speaker 1: because I know you you had them coming. That was

972
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,240
Speaker 1: that was prime time bosson.

973
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, see if I can find.

974
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: Oh man, it's a many you ate. Well.

975
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 5: It got to the point where when something would happened

976
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 5: in news, it didn't matter if it was political news,

977
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 5: if it was cultural thing, whatever it was like my

978
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 5: mentions blew up. The Boston mentions would blow up, like

979
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 5: where's the headline, where's the headline? Where's the headline?

980
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 1: We needed it?

981
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 5: And so it got to the point where I was

982
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 5: just coming up with this ship all the time because

983
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 5: I just knew that that's what people were gonna expect.

984
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: So and shout out to my mentor. I don't know

985
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: if y'all are familiar with my history of also being

986
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 1: a blogger, but uh, shout out to Robert Lttel from

987
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,880
Speaker 1: Black Sports Alive. He followed the same the same guys

988
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 1: in sports blogging at the time. So, okay, I want

989
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: to have fun with you though.

990
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 2: Let's do it all right, joh.

991
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: Internet exists during this moment in black history, and you

992
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: need to create the headline to alert the people of

993
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 1: what is going on. Let's start easy. Rosa Parks refuses

994
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: her seat. What is the headline for this?

995
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 5: Rosa Parks refuses to get up? What kind of headline

996
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 5: would I write for that? I would probably all right,

997
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,560
Speaker 5: so here, so you know, most of our most of

998
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 5: our headlines have like an.

999
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 2: Intro, give us the structure.

1000
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 5: Ye, the structure is normally there is like an intro

1001
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 5: aheader and then the actual will meet of the story.

1002
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 5: So I would probably say something like not gonna do it, Okay,

1003
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 5: not gonna do it.

1004
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 2: Colon.

1005
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 5: Rosa Parks refuses to give up her seat for salty

1006
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 5: soup cookies and and I don't know what cit she was,

1007
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 5: So Rose Parks refuses to give up her seat for

1008
00:55:25,200 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 5: salty soup soup cookies in uh, in bigoted Birmingham, Alabama.

1009
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,840
Speaker 2: That would be something that would probably be like probably

1010
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:37,320
Speaker 2: do something like I had to.

1011
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 5: I had to start coming up with different way because

1012
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 5: we couldn't. We couldn't, like you couldn't call people crackers.

1013
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 5: I wasn't going crackers soggy soup soup cookies. Yeah, that

1014
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,839
Speaker 5: was my euphemism for crackers. So we could keep our

1015
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 5: ass and keep our money. So like anytime you've seen

1016
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 5: super Cookies on Boxer in the headline in the story, like,

1017
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 5: I'm talking about crackers, but it just won't let me

1018
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 5: say crackers. We gotta keep the money and I check

1019
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 5: got a cat, So I had to come up with

1020
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 5: other ways.

1021
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:02,480
Speaker 3: I like that.

1022
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: Okay, here's a here's a you know, controversial one. Malcolm

1023
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: X getting out of jail. M m m uh, what's

1024
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: the intro?

1025
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 2: Salama lacum malacum salaam uh uh uh brother Malcolm X,

1026
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 2: Brother Malcolm X freed.

1027
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 4: Damn let me think.

1028
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: Ready to hit them Harlem streets?

1029
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah like that, Like so

1030
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 5: brother uh, brother Malcolm X celebrates freedom from freedom from

1031
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 5: his cell with uh.

1032
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: With outrageous Harlem hullabaloo or something like that.

1033
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 5: A literation is always part of the game, so like

1034
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,240
Speaker 5: you got to find a way to get some creative

1035
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,640
Speaker 5: words that you can have the generation for.

1036
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: Give me the whole outline, give me the whole thing again.

1037
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 5: From alcohol be Isslama Lake and lacom salaam. Brother Malcolm

1038
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 5: X frees himself celebrates freedom from sale with uh Holiday

1039
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 5: Holliday as hall of Might Hulla balue.

1040
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: I like that.

1041
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 2: We'll go with that.

1042
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 3: I like that. I like that.

1043
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: Okay, last one and this one is of celebration and change.

1044
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,120
Speaker 1: Jackie Robinson breaks the color barrier in baseball.

1045
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 5: Mm M, here we go, Jackie Robinson, Jackie Robinson. Jackie

1046
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 5: Robinson played for the Dodgers.

1047
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 3: That's right, Yeaoklyn, Brooklyn Dodgers.

1048
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 2: So we'll we'll go. So wet.

1049
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 4: Jackie Robinson, Brooklyn, Brooklyn Dodgers, Brooklyn Dodgers.

1050
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: Bodacious bat.

1051
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 4: Brother Jackie Robinson breaks the color barrier in baseball.

1052
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 5: Damn, I gotta come over with the last part. Brace

1053
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 5: the color barrier in baseball?

1054
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 1: About the white people.

1055
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they get right.

1056
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1057
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 10: You gotta talk about the whites because there was okay, okay, okay,

1058
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 10: so they was upset boom so wing better brother Jackie

1059
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 10: Robinson back bat bashing brother Jackie Robinson.

1060
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 5: Brace the color barrier in baseball to the dismay and

1061
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 5: calamity of them crackers.

1062
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: You can't say crackers, Yeah, you gotta say what's the.

1063
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 7: Crackerjack?

1064
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: Cracker jacks?

1065
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 1: Or you can say cracker jacks.

1066
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 2: Put peanuts and cracker jack.

1067
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 4: To talk about the lights to the dismay of all

1068
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 4: the peanuts and cracker jacks.

1069
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: Okay, you ate with that, you ate with.

1070
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 7: You hate with that, you ate with that using peanuts

1071
00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 7: and cracky jackson.

1072
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: Listen, Well, let's get out of this as America and

1073
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 1: get a little bit into celebrity, say the darnist things.

1074
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: So this is the pop culture portion of black history, right,

1075
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: and I think we could just start off with again

1076
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: leaning still into the social media of it all. If

1077
00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: our ancestors could see this, I would love to know

1078
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: what you think our ancestors would think about current trends,

1079
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: current fashions, and the things that are happening within culture.

1080
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 1: Let's start actually here. What do you think our ancestors

1081
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,080
Speaker 1: would have had to say about the Kendrick versus Drake beef.

1082
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: Oh, as soon as Drake said trying to rap, like

1083
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 2: you're trying to get the slaves.

1084
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 4: Free, get the slaves free, yeah, yeah, yeah, rap.

1085
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: Like he would have. Our ancestors would pretty much.

1086
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: All be Kendrick one hundred.

1087
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 7: Martin would have went to the podium a yeah yeah

1088
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 7: speech around that the.

1089
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: Nation is would be yeah, that's crazy.

1090
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 1: If our ancestors saw what was happening, Okay, I'm not

1091
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 1: mad at it. I'm not mad at it. What do

1092
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: you think they would have thought about TikTok dances and

1093
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: all of us dancing on our phone?

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Speaker 2: You think they would have loved that minstress shows like

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Speaker 2: the part the ones that we see now. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you just didn't have social media. They were doing it.

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Speaker 2: I showed dude like that you'd be doing you know,

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Speaker 2: you see some of the juke moves, like the juke

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Speaker 2: move they was dancing.

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Speaker 1: Prohibition. They was getting in and the little we saw

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Speaker 1: the center.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, preacher boy would have been right up in there,

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Speaker 4: right on Tiko Hotca Boy would have been Copyla May.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he would have been Copyla May. He would have

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01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,959
Speaker 2: been he would be he'd have been.

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Speaker 5: Okay, he would he be shown they were trying to

1107
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 5: kill that nigga.

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01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: They would have That's funny. Got you a sense of

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01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 2: hear m bring your hands over here. Let me show

1110
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Speaker 2: you what's funny to me.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't have been able to do if he was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there would have been no no no, no no no no. Okay, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: Well let's get into some let's do music. Let's do

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01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 1: music a little bit. In terms of Black music, we have,

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Speaker 1: of course Strange Fruit by Billy Holliday that, oh my God,

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01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: was incredible, A change gonna come by Sam Cook, Say

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01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:02,720
Speaker 1: it loud, say it proud. I want to get into

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Speaker 1: kind of what has happened amongst our culture specifically throughout

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01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: history with music. We have jazz, we have country because

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Speaker 1: that's ours. We have rock and roll, rock and rolls

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Speaker 1: hip hop it how impactful would y'all say or do

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01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: y'all have any thoughts on the impacts of music throughout

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Speaker 1: our history specifically?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know, music, I feel like music is

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Speaker 5: always It's not just a hip hop thing.

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Speaker 4: I feel like music is always.

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01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 5: To your point about Billie Holliday, there's always been messages

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Speaker 5: and even going back to slavery, right like, some of

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01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 5: the songs that were sung were like freedom songs, and

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01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 5: some of these songs were songs that were in cold

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01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 5: so that only slaves understood what was being said, if

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Speaker 5: there was going to be an escape, if there was

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01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 5: going to be an uprising, whatever it was, like people

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01:02:56,160 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 5: were communicating through songs. I feel like our music has

1135
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 5: always had some substance to it and something to it

1136
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 5: that is for us, by us, that we can understand

1137
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 5: even if the outside world doesn't know these words or

1138
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 5: these terms and that kind of thing that we know

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Speaker 5: and that's all.

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01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 4: That that matters.

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01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is going to be maybe.

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Speaker 7: You killed that before, Mandy.

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01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: Well.

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01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: So I saw the list here and I was thinking

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01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: of other like songs that depicted black history that may

1146
01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 1: have made it to be hit singles right like, I'm

1147
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: looking at this list. I don't even think we have

1148
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 1: n w A on here like the Police, like that

1149
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: was a huge part of how our culture was represented.

1150
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: I think another one on here that isn't showed that

1151
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: is also dark would be TLC's was It Waterfalls? Because

1152
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: technically that leaned into what weppearence within our community with

1153
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: the HIV and AIDS epidemic right now. There was a

1154
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: song that played in my living room this week, and

1155
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: it depicted a black family and in the situation that

1156
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: I was mad and didn't understand. I was like, today,

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01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,640
Speaker 1: this would not have been a hit song on the radio,

1158
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,120
Speaker 1: and it leaned into such heavy stereotypes and I was like, now,

1159
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 1: who the fuck made this a hit record? And it's

1160
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:33,640
Speaker 1: a record by a group one woman, two men, and

1161
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:35,240
Speaker 1: it was a hit. And when I watched it as

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01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: an adult, I was I didn't like it. We would

1163
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: you do if your song was that home? The only

1164
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 1: way to feed the missus? And it's sad. It's called

1165
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: somewhere smoking rock now and then out a lockdown. I

1166
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 1: ain't got a job now, so for you, this is

1167
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 1: just a good time.

1168
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:57,520
Speaker 2: But please, this is what I call life.

1169
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 1: And it was this depiction of blackness that I was like, hey, bro,

1170
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: all right, not the not the daddy being gone because

1171
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:04,760
Speaker 1: he doing.

1172
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 2: Rock and locked him out of jail. And then there's

1173
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 2: the black woman.

1174
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: Is selling a pussy to put food on the table.

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01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,400
Speaker 1: And I was like a little for a little bit

1176
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: at a little bit a little bit, and I was like, bro,

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01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: this was this was on one on sixth in part Nigga.

1178
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: This was on the radio, and this was at a

1179
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: time where we was getting out of like women being sexual.

1180
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, so here we go being demonized that

1181
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: we got to lay down to feed the kids that

1182
01:05:32,520 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: we had with the daddy that's now locked up. And

1183
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa. We talked about like we didn't

1184
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 1: even get into all of the propaganda around blackness.

1185
01:05:40,320 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 4: Right.

1186
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: You have black on black crime, you have that black

1187
01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: people are lazy, you have that black women we talked

1188
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,720
Speaker 1: about even in the digital face era, that they're that

1189
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:51,560
Speaker 1: they're the welfare And I was like, whoa. This is

1190
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,439
Speaker 1: a terrible song that is now ingrained into history because

1191
01:05:55,480 --> 01:06:00,360
Speaker 1: it was on a on the Livelihoods of Blood woman

1192
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 1: at a time, and that that is anyways, that song

1193
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: should have never made radio.

1194
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,240
Speaker 7: People thought that was a conscious.

1195
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 4: Consciousness at that point. How that's the conscious we fucked up, y'all. Well,

1196
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,479
Speaker 4: music is supposed to reflect what's happened in society, right, sure,

1197
01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 4: So that was that was that was that was someone's experience.

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01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: It was someone's experience for someone's experience. But that being

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01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 1: pushed to me that record at a time where I

1200
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: think we as black people were fighting against so many stereotypes,

1201
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: and that is what blasted on the radios. And then

1202
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: we had white people singing that song about our experience.

1203
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: So to me, when we talk about ways, okay, there's

1204
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: laughing with us and there's laughing at us. As an

1205
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 1: adult sitting back watching the video and listen and seeing

1206
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: them dance to.

1207
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 2: The lyrics, don't I'm going up the video right now because.

1208
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: I felt offended. I felt, oh, there's some jiggaboos that

1209
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: a white man made this song and Mady's na sing it.

1210
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,959
Speaker 1: I was upset. Look are you looking at the video?

1211
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at it right now because I wanted

1212
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: to make sure.

1213
01:07:15,840 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 1: As an adult, I want you to rewatch this video.

1214
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 1: Of course, this is Claudia Ortiz.

1215
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 9: Who.

1216
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,520
Speaker 1: Who is the most beautiful woman who ended up ruining

1217
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: a good music group because she decided to sleep with

1218
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: one bandmate and have a baby by It was messy.

1219
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 2: But the part that's even crazier.

1220
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:34,479
Speaker 1: It's nasty. Did you see the video?

1221
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 4: You know?

1222
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 2: So I wanted to make sure I got this right

1223
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:37,880
Speaker 2: when I wish back to watch the video.

1224
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 5: The sick part about it is is that they're singing

1225
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 5: this song right about this this down trodden black experience,

1226
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 5: and like Ryan Toby and.

1227
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 4: The other nigga.

1228
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 5: I don't even remember the other niggas name no one does,

1229
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 5: and the other nigga like they're just doing artist ship,

1230
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 5: they're just performing this song Claude dead or he's actually

1231
01:07:56,720 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 5: has to be the crack hole with the with the

1232
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:01,280
Speaker 5: with the abandoned baby mom.

1233
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:03,000
Speaker 2: And autist.

1234
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 4: I'm like in your own video where you're the artist,

1235
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,520
Speaker 4: you're supposed to be the star, and you as the

1236
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 4: only woman in it, as the only woman a little

1237
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 4: bit dollar and it bounced off and she just looked.

1238
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: Down like the dancing, the dancing to these lyrics, look

1239
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: at and.

1240
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 2: This rooftop is like, this is this what would you do?

1241
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 2: This is a Bad Boys video.

1242
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a there's a bridge in this song,

1243
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 1: and it's when they're on the rooftop and it's literally

1244
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: talking to now, black people, what would you do? Get

1245
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:41,680
Speaker 1: up off my.

1246
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 2: Feet and stop making excuse it.

1247
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: So it's leading into the trope that black people make

1248
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: excuses for the predicaments that they're in when clearly we've

1249
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 1: talked about like the government having a hand and that

1250
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: clearly drugs being pushed into the communities and opportunities not

1251
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: being had for. But literally at one point they literally

1252
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 1: start telling black people stop making Todd excuses and they're.

1253
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 7: Dancing Republican ship.

1254
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: Can you look this up? Who wrote this?

1255
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 4: Tok Ryan Toby wrote this record, rightlda. What would You

1256
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 4: Do by City High was written by a group by

1257
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,480
Speaker 4: group members Ryan Toby Robbie Party.

1258
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 2: I guess that's why Cleft.

1259
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, they're listed as writers, but that could

1260
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 4: be a production thing.

1261
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 2: They may any white names, but this is it in

1262
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 2: the group. It's pretty much like.

1263
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 5: The song is called what would You Do to just

1264
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 5: easily be called pull your pants up and stop sucking dick,

1265
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 5: and it would be like the same message with Rod

1266
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 5: like it's crazy.

1267
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: That song is the one that I want to remove

1268
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: from our history. I hate it. I hate it and

1269
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: I liked it them.

1270
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 7: And like sunglasses and do rags and chains in the

1271
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 7: video the video, they're like, yo, we got it, we

1272
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 7: got one, Like there's no like.

1273
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,799
Speaker 5: The only cohesion in the video is Claude that scenes

1274
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 5: being the crack whore, Like everything else is just a

1275
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 5: good time getting money doing Diddy dances.

1276
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 1: On the roof, Diddy dances to these lyrics. It's crazy.

1277
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:22,680
Speaker 4: It's yeah, yeah, yes, throw dollar bills, yeah, hit her

1278
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 4: in the face and then she just looked down at

1279
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 4: it like yo, do that?

1280
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: Like no, this is absolutely inappropriate.

1281
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:31,719
Speaker 2: It is all bad, all bad.

1282
01:10:33,720 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: Do we want to I think this is I think

1283
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: we did get on this. Well y'all, thank y'all so much.

1284
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,759
Speaker 1: We hope you were educated and entertained. Darn was that sister?

1285
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 2: All right?

1286
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,400
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Speaker 1: have fun with just some fun things. Nonetheless, make sure

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01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:15,960
Speaker 1: you educate yourself this month February. It's only twenty eight

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01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 1: days of twenty twenty.

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01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 2: Seven, February twenty Some of this is twenty nine. Oh,

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Speaker 2: it ain't.

1298
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:27,640
Speaker 1: Never twenty seven for me, Florida education.

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Speaker 2: Twenty You got.

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01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: Twenty eight days in this month. To make sure you

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01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 1: educate yourself. You don't lean into your ignorance, but you

1302
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 1: correct it, and you make sure that as you learn,

1303
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: you continue to share your knowledge with others, because baby,

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01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 1: that's how we keep this thing going. When you learn something,

1305
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,320
Speaker 1: make it your duty to drop the little nuggets to

1306
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: other people so that we can work on getting out

1307
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: of our ignorance and leaning into being educated. Brothers, do

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Speaker 1: you feel me?

1309
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 2: And protect yourself?

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01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 5: Protect yourself if you need to buy a folding chair

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Speaker 5: or something to protect yourself, keep yourself safe out here.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Well, apparently, if you have more than one floor, you

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Speaker 1: need two guns on each floor. You Georgia or any

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Speaker 1: state that allows you to carry. And again, educate yourself

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Speaker 1: on those ways that you are old here in the

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Speaker 1: US of A. To protect yourself and do so so.

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Speaker 1: Protect yourself, educate yourself. This is selective ignorance, where curiosity lifts,

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Speaker 1: controversy thrives, and conversations matter. See y'all next week. Nie.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for tuning in. The Selective Ignorance of Mandy B.

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Speaker 1: Segro Mady B. And you just checked out my new podcast,

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