1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the battle Ground Podcast. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: Dat you'll play for. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: All these. 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 3: And exclusive interviews with some of your favorite wrestlers. 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 4: Wound podcast, Stop It, what's up you guys? Welcome back 6 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 4: into iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast, the Battleground Podcast, and Man, 7 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 4: tomorrow night is going to be one hell of a night. 8 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 4: You've got a ew Dynamite Grand Slam up there in 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 4: New York. And here's the deal. We have seen this 10 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,319 Speaker 4: for weeks and our guest today Nigel again, let's let's 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 4: go ahead and introduce Nigerie. 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: Sure, how are you very well? Thank you very much? 13 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: Just enjoying this California son, Oh that must be nice. 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: We've got some pretty gnarly sun here, but it's not 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 4: the California temperature. 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: We got miserable ninety two degrees. 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: Here, So muggy Tennessee. 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I hope you're enjoying it. 19 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 4: But we kind of talked about this for briefly before 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 4: we started recording it. 21 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 3: You've cut some great promos here recently. 22 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 4: This past Wednesday, you called out Brian Danielson of course 23 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 4: no show. You said, Hey, if you really want to 24 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 4: put the test to test, who is the real goat? 25 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: Meet me here Wednesday night, Dynamite. So let me just 26 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: go ahead and ask the obvious question. Get it out 27 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 3: of the way. 28 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 4: When did you know another match between you and Danielson 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 4: was one hundred percent of possibility and not just fantasy 30 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 4: booking by fans. 31 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a gradual thing, certainly. The story goes, 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 5: I was on Tony Kahn's plane flying from Los Angeles 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 5: to the East Coast. I forget exactly where it was, 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 5: and on the flight he told me about Wembley Stadium. 35 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: They were going to do that, and I don't know why. 36 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 5: I sort of said to him, sort of tongue in geet, well, 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 5: you know, if we sell out, I might have to 38 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 5: dust off the old boots. 39 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: And that. 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 5: Sparked something in him, you know, and he asked me, 41 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 5: did you do that Germany? And I explained you, I mean, 42 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 5: you know, the only thing stopping me wrestling is me 43 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 5: really to be honest with you. And so that was 44 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 5: a possibility then, But it didn't work out for that 45 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 5: year because Brian broke his arm in that match with Okada. Although, 46 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 5: as I've said before, two hundred and six bones in 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 5: the human body, two hundred and five were perfectly okay, 48 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 5: yet somehow that was an excuse not to wrestle me. 49 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 5: So fast forward another year, another opportunity, and you know, 50 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 5: with Brian winning the O in Half Foundation Tournament, he 51 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 5: had that title opportunity, and so the only option left 52 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 5: open to me was to take part in that Casino 53 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 5: Gautlit match to try and earn an opportunity if Brian 54 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 5: was to win that night. And as you saw, I 55 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 5: shot my shot, took my opportunity, and it didn't pay off, 56 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: you know, but it couldn't have couldn't have been won 57 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 5: by a better man? Was that that line, Buddy Rogers 58 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 5: line to a better man? 59 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: It couldn't have happened. 60 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure. 61 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 2: I was actually went to the Memphis Wrestling Hall of 62 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: Fame this weekend and kind. 63 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: Of filling nostalgic. 64 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: Were what were some of the you know, outside of 65 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 2: your bubble wrestling that you gravitated to. Were you a 66 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 2: big Japanese fans? Did you get into any of the 67 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 2: Memphis wrestling from back in the day as. 68 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: A fan or once I was in the job. 69 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 3: As a fan? 70 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: Sorry, yeah, as a fan. 71 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 5: I mean that was you know, trapped back to the 72 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 5: to the nineties, and there wasn't a lot of access 73 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 5: back then. 74 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Tape trading wasn't really a. 75 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 5: Thing in England in the nineties, at least not that 76 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 5: I was aware of. So it wasn't until I was 77 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 5: in the job that I even realized the majority of 78 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 5: professional wrestling outside. 79 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: Of what was w w F at the time even really. 80 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 5: Existed, you know, And I think that's always been a 81 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 5: battle for anyone who's tried to compete against them. Obviously, 82 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: I got pro wrestling illustrated, so I was aware of 83 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,240 Speaker 5: the other things, but you you just saw the pictures. 84 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 5: You never actually saw any of the videos or anything 85 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 5: like that. So it wasn't until I got in the 86 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 5: job that I really started diversifying. 87 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: My interest and my fandom, if you will. 88 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: So I guess it was probably ww and then World 89 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 2: Sports was that the kind of. 90 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 5: The World of Sport was on TV until at eight, 91 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 5: I believe, give or take, and so I that was 92 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: the first professional wrestling I ever saw. And if you've 93 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 5: ever seen any of that, very different style than what 94 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 5: was w w f's producer at the time. And it 95 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 5: was funny actually because they would towards the end of 96 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 5: their run they would split one week. 97 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: Would the World of Sport and one would be a tape. 98 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 5: That WWF would send in and the difference was dramatic, 99 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 5: you know, so that was really Yeah, what really got 100 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 5: me into it first of all was seeing guys like 101 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,359 Speaker 5: fit for me. But then when it disappeared from TV, 102 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 5: to all intents and purposes, didn't really know that it 103 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 5: still existed at all until I got Sky TV and 104 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 5: then started to be received the w W product and 105 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 5: got into it then, you know, Yeah. 106 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: How was the museum though? Was it pretty cool? What 107 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: was the cool stuff there? It was good. 108 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: So they don't have a proper museum. They've just had 109 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: some ceremonies. But like Rock and Roll Express went in 110 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 2: this year. My cousin, My cousin is night Danny Davis. 111 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: He went in. 112 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: He's kind of. 113 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: More known now for his training. He trained Cody and 114 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 2: Brock and John c and all those, a bunch of yeah, 115 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 2: downtown Bruno you know wherever he was in w W. 116 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 2: I can't remember his name there, but yeah, there's a 117 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: bunch of legends there, a bunch of Dave Brown announce 118 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: that's him, Whippleman, yes, so, and the Rock just bought 119 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 2: him a truck. 120 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: I just found out. 121 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: That's crazy that was wild. 122 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: It was good. It was yeah. 123 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: So anyways, back to your match. 124 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 2: What has been the biggest challenge or challenges of getting 125 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: ring ready again? 126 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 1: Oh, there's been There's been a few. 127 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,360 Speaker 5: It's kind of interesting because pro wrestling exists in this 128 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 5: strange sort of misty limbo between sports and entertainment and oh, 129 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 5: I better not use that phrase. 130 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: You know. 131 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 5: The truth of the matter is you have to be 132 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 5: esthetically pleasing as well as athletically you know, good as well. 133 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 5: And that being the case, it's a different form of 134 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 5: because people often see, you know, Wrestless show up on 135 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 5: TV and what the easy job you just you work 136 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:34,799 Speaker 5: for half an hour a week. 137 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: But that's the fun part of it. 138 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 5: What you don't see is having to go in the gym, 139 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 5: having to eat right, having to work with injuries, et cetera, 140 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 5: et cetera, travel one hundred percent, you know. So the 141 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 5: biggest part of it for me, I think, is the 142 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 5: diet of it. I've been on the Viiggie diet, which 143 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 5: is a good friend of mine I've known. 144 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: A long time in the job, Dan Viggerty. 145 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 5: He's got me on a great diet that you know, 146 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 5: we can bulk up and then lean out for the 147 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 5: actual show. So I've been doing that takes a lot 148 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 5: of time, and then in the gym three days a week, 149 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 5: and then swimming and then stretching, and then yoga and 150 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 5: then actually in a ring a couple of times a 151 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 5: week as well. 152 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: Give or take whatever's available, give and travel. So it's 153 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: been hectic. 154 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 5: It has been hectic, and part of me coming back 155 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 5: to wrestling was like, this is a full time commitment 156 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 5: outside of even doing the commentary, you know, but it's 157 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 5: worth it because ever since I started with lefs stature 158 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 5: in HWA, it was instilled in me to treat this 159 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 5: job as a professional. You know, you've got to have 160 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 5: respect for it, respect for the way you look, respect 161 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: for the way that you act, and respect for what 162 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 5: you do in the ring as well. 163 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: So I've always tried to uphold that. 164 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and of course we're going to have a 165 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 4: fun night tomorrow night aw Dynamite Grand Slam. Now, the 166 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: talk has been this whole dream match of you and 167 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 4: Brian Danielson, when when people thought about this, for many 168 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 4: people they thought that. 169 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: This match we would never see again. We thought that 170 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 3: it was done back in the day with the r 171 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 3: h S and whatnot. What are you looking forward to the. 172 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 4: Most in this match, other than the obvious of kicking 173 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 4: Brian Danielson's ass. 174 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, right, yeah, you know, I just think the the 175 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 5: experience of being in front of those people again, It's 176 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 5: something that I arguably took for granted when I was 177 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 5: a wrestler. 178 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: I supposed to Amarista to that extent. 179 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 5: But you know, when I walked out at Wembley Stadium 180 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 5: and got that reaction, it was just just incredible and 181 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 5: you know, so heartwarming to be remembered that way and 182 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 5: respected that way. So you know, I know it's not 183 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 5: going to be the same reaction, and I'm going to 184 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 5: be plenty of people in New York that don't like me. 185 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 5: But I've always said when people ask me about getting 186 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 5: in the job, you know, what do you need? You 187 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 5: just need people to care about you, you know. And 188 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 5: it was always the case with me. People I have 189 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,440 Speaker 5: loved me or hated me, but as long as they 190 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 5: had an opinion, that. 191 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: Was all that mad. 192 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,079 Speaker 5: And I think there's going to be a lot of that, hopefully, 193 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 5: as a lot of those people who followed our careers 194 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 5: since Ring of Honor are going to come out and 195 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 5: really want to see who can prove that today they 196 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 5: are the better wrestler. 197 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: And that's all I'm trying to do. 198 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to show that all the success that 199 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 5: he's had should have, could have and would have been 200 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 5: mine in a different universe. 201 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: You know, right. 202 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: And it's also just really cool that this is also 203 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: happening under the Ring of Honor Banner two in present day. 204 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: That's just very cool from the history standpoint. So sliding 205 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 2: over a little bit, when did the magic bug hit you? 206 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: And what do you consider the parallels between what you 207 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 2: do in the magic world and in the pro wrestling world. 208 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 5: A lot of parallels. Actually, when I came out here 209 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 5: to Los Angeles, Good Lord a decade or so ago, 210 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 5: I start going to the Magic Castle, and one of 211 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 5: the pre eminent mentor lists in the magic world as 212 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 5: a guy by the name of Max Maven, who unfortunately 213 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 5: has passed away now, but he was always a big 214 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 5: wrestling fan as well, read up on the job, and 215 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 5: whenever we started hanging out, we always would talk about 216 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 5: those similarities. 217 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: The big covers are small is one thing, and. 218 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 5: The sense of how seeing it live is a very 219 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 5: different experience than seeing it, you know, through your TV 220 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 5: or your computer. 221 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: As the case may be. 222 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 5: Now, So a lot of those similarities are there, certainly, 223 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 5: But the bug for me, I suppose it would have 224 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 5: started mid two thousands. 225 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: I was going out to Japan a lot, and the sponsors. 226 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 5: Would take us out afterwards, and I didn't speak a 227 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 5: lot of Japanese, and so we were there sometimes for 228 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 5: three hours. Sometimes the food wasn't really what I wanted 229 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 5: to eat, so I would use a deck of cards 230 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 5: to pass the food that I didn't want to eat 231 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 5: onto the next person, and to try to entertain our 232 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 5: hosts and our sponsors who would paid good money to 233 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 5: take care of us for evening. So he started like 234 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 5: that and then became more of a backstage thing around 235 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 5: the boys, just taking out a deck of cards, doing 236 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: a few different things like that, and then good lord, 237 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 5: it would be Yeah, it would have been January of 238 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 5: twenty twenty three where I've finally made the decision to 239 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 5: actually do a show. I've been let go from WWE, 240 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 5: and we'd had the unfortunate pass in a Jay Brisco, 241 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,679 Speaker 5: which was a huge inspiration for me actually doing the show, 242 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 5: because people that ask for the longest time when you 243 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 5: do a show, when you do a show, and it's 244 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 5: so different to do an actual magic. 245 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: Show versus just doing a few little things here and there. 246 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 5: And so I just, you know, Jay's passing reminded me 247 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 5: that you're not guarantee tomorrow and if this is something 248 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 5: you want to do, now is the perfect time to 249 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: do it. 250 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: So I took three weeks and sat down and wrote 251 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: out what I wanted to do. 252 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 5: It's not just a magic show, it's a spoken word 253 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 5: show as well, try. 254 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: And meld those two things together, and started doing it 255 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: sort of March April of that year. 256 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 5: We've done about ten to fifteen shows now they've done. 257 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,840 Speaker 5: I've done everywhere from England. We've done London, Manchester, Philadelphia. 258 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: We've got two shows. 259 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 5: Back to back, same night coming up the night before 260 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 5: Wrestled Dream. 261 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: So the first one sold out in a day. 262 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 5: So it's been fantastic and a real fantastic experience and 263 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 5: I've consider myself very blessed to have been at that opportunity. 264 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and that's that's awesome because like I remember, 265 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: this was when aw was in Memphis. I think you 266 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 4: had a show in Memphis afterwards, and I talked about 267 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 4: driving down. 268 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 3: I was like we can go to wrestling, but we're 269 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 3: getting to the shows. 270 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 2: If we known, yeah, if we'd known you were doing that, 271 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 2: we would have definitely made the road trip. 272 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 3: But I didn't know. 273 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: Yeah. 274 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 4: I do want to ask this because I we all 275 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 4: scrolled through social media and uh, there's a guy on 276 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 4: social media or girl with the drain maker accounts on Twitter. 277 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 3: I'm still calling you Twitter, I won't call it X And. 278 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 4: They said things that have happened since Mariah May kissed 279 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 4: Nigel mcginnison Wimbley Stadium, and let's go over this thing. 280 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 3: Nigel came out of retirement the same night. 281 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 4: Nigel will eventually wrestle Brian Danielson and the Third Point 282 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 4: Oasis Reunited and Fucking in the Bushes will play at 283 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: Arthur Ash who can be incredible. 284 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 5: We should send her over to Palestine in Israel. Maybe 285 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 5: she could you know, create world peace right possibly. 286 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 4: So we kind of know your thoughts as we watch 287 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 4: aw W and she's on TV and you're a commentary, 288 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 4: what are your thoughts on aw Women's World Champion Mariah. 289 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 5: May fantastic speaks for herself, doesn't it. She's everything you know, 290 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 5: She's the glamor, she's got the look, but she can 291 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 5: back it up once the. 292 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: Bell rings as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. 293 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 5: She's the epistome of what is needed in a world champion, certainly, 294 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 5: and you know she speaks well, she does the job. 295 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 5: She's fantastic. I couldn't be any more proud of a 296 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 5: fellow country woman. The right term, I'm not sure I 297 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 5: should do. Yeah aay. 298 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: So. 299 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: On the other side of the aisle is Danielson's theme 300 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 2: Final Countdown. A lot of people are expecting that to 301 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 2: be played tomorrow night. If you could, if you could 302 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 2: sabotage his match, his entrance music before the match tomorrow night, 303 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 2: what would you do to kind of throw him off 304 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 2: his game? 305 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 5: Yeah? 306 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: Maybe love and marriage. That would be a good one if. 307 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 2: He Yeah, hinting at that retirement. 308 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 5: There's one you know, when you go on Instagram, you 309 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 5: post a video, you can add music to it, right, 310 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 5: there was one I just typed in Coward and it 311 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 5: brought one up, which is just perfect. But whatever it is, 312 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 5: that's if I could choose, that's that's the song I'd 313 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 5: have him played on his way out. But you know 314 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 5: he is legitimately banged up, and say what you want 315 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 5: about him. He just you know, his pride is bigger 316 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 5: than his brain, which you know is not saying I don't, 317 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 5: but be that as it may. 318 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: You know, you've got to think he's going to show up. 319 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 5: I would certainly hope he's going to show up done 320 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 5: on what condition he's going to be in hes next 321 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 5: being banged up for the longest time. Yeah, and all 322 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 5: you know all storyline asiet. He's been a big inspiration 323 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 5: to me. When I started in ae W he came 324 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 5: up to me and he said, you know, Nigel, it's 325 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 5: great to have you here, but I hope you don't 326 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 5: wrestle because I'm petrified I've ever facing you again. 327 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: And I said, don't worry, Brian, if that was to 328 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: ever happen, I'm sure you're just faking injury and get 329 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: out of it somehow. 330 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: So and fast forward, here we are. 331 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: Well, it's going to be a fun night for sure, 332 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: Tomorrow night, aw Dynamke Grand Slam. You can watch it 333 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 4: starting at seven Central. And before we let you go, 334 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 4: I have been holding onto this for the end of 335 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 4: the interview because this is a funny story. My seven 336 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 4: year old has gotten really big into collecting wrestling figures, 337 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 4: and so somehow he figured out how to buy stuff 338 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 4: with my phone online. 339 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 3: Well, he ordered a John Cena action figure. 340 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 4: I open the action figure up and it's this action 341 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 4: figure and not the John Cena Action figure. 342 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: Nice, and so I think I. 343 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: Was a little bit more excited to get this action 344 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 4: figure than he was not getting his John Cena action figure. Oh, 345 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 4: I'm hoping that maybe tomorrow night we get the blonde 346 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 4: frosted tips back. 347 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 5: And as you can see, it looks highly unlikely at 348 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 5: this junction. This hair is far too, far, too precious 349 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 5: to me at this point in my life to risk 350 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 5: blonde in the tips like that. 351 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: But how disappointed must your kid have been? 352 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: He was like, I don't know who this is, and 353 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 3: I was like, I do. It's mine now, I don't 354 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 3: care that you just spent thirty dollars on an action figure. 355 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 3: He will know my collection. 356 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: He will know who it is. 357 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 5: He's going to know exactly who it is, and he 358 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 5: will be able to see me. I can promise you there. 359 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: Well, Nigel, I would like to end it right there, 360 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,680 Speaker 4: but before we let you go, we always got to 361 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 4: send everybody off. Is there anything you want to say 362 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 4: to people watching or listening to this right now. 363 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 5: Other than just you know, tune in because I can 364 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 5: promise you this is going to be a monumental match, 365 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 5: a monumental night for me. It's it's destiny that's come 366 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 5: about now after sixteen years to your earlier point. Never 367 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 5: would have dreamt this would happen. And if Brian's got 368 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 5: the balls to show up, then I guarantee you it's 369 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 5: going to be a match for the ages. It's you 370 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,199 Speaker 5: don't often get an opportunity like this in sports, you know, 371 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 5: because of the nature of sports. 372 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: But to me, this would be. 373 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:44,480 Speaker 5: Perhaps like a Michael Jordan against a Kobe Bryant. 374 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: You know, the ability to see. 375 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 5: Where they are now, and that's what you're going to get. 376 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 5: You know, Brian's backs against the wall. That's often times 377 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 5: where he's at his best. But I promise you I'm 378 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 5: going to do absolutely everything to just prove my point. 379 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 5: Titles not on the line, so you know, whether win, 380 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 5: lose or draw. He's leaving after ash with the belt 381 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 5: and he's heading to wrestle dream to defend it. 382 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: But I can beat him, and. 383 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 5: I can prove that I was every bit the wrestler 384 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 5: that he is what he was, and that's going to 385 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 5: be in the back 386 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Of his mind for the rest of his life, and 387 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: he deserves it.