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Speaker 2: was the worst. Oh that's a Leslie Nielsen quote naked
Speaker 2: gun style. You know, I got to ask you if
Speaker 2: I'm I'm doing something that's a little too extra, or
Speaker 2: if you think this is the right move and then
Speaker 2: we're going to get to an anniversary of a classic movie.
Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a little bit. Talk to
Speaker 2: some NFL, but we're talking about kids sports. You said
Speaker 2: you went to Dick Sporting Goods the other day. When
Speaker 2: was the last time he went to a sporting goods store?
Speaker 2: I went yesterday. If you have little kids, it might
Speaker 2: be a minute, because you find yourself the same way
Speaker 2: you find goldfish and Ritz crackers and all the stuff
Speaker 2: in your house that you didn't have for twenty years. Well,
Speaker 2: it's not even that too, I mean our lifestyle change,
Speaker 2: meaning I'll just get it on Amazon. Why do I
Speaker 2: gotta go in?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Honestly, I bought a new pair of turf shoes for softball,
Speaker 2: ordered them online. Right. I didn't go to the sporting
Speaker 2: goods so, I mean, we just happened to be walking
Speaker 2: by because again, Famili's in town, and my sister wanted
Speaker 2: to go in there. So I was like, yeah, let's
Speaker 2: go that like childlike excitement. Remember when you were kidding,
Speaker 2: you beg your parents and they wouldn't take you. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, let's go in. Let's check it out.
Speaker 2: Next weekend, my daughter has the parade, all the kids,
Speaker 2: you know, carry a little banner around of whoever sponsors them.
Speaker 2: It's a proud moment. And with the girls little softball league, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they all dress up. That's something new. What do you
Speaker 2: mean they dress up themed based on their team name. Ah?
Speaker 2: Really okay, they're not wearing a uniform. No, they are,
Speaker 2: but like but enhanced. Where the Sparkle Pixies. Oh, pink
Speaker 2: Sparkle Pixie. So here's my question for you. Did you
Speaker 2: name that team? I did? Thought so so. Bunch of
Speaker 2: six year old little girls. They're excited. You know, you
Speaker 2: try to get kids involved, whether it's little boys little
Speaker 2: girls of your coaching, the whole goals to try to
Speaker 2: get them enthusiastic about sports, right, so you lean into
Speaker 2: the fund great confidence builder for sure. And I went
Speaker 2: to this little league meeting, and I think we've all
Speaker 2: been there where you're like, man, these parents are not
Speaker 2: only a some of them are pain in the ass,
Speaker 2: but some of them just go overboard and they're like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're gonna do this, and we're gonna ask for an
Speaker 2: extra money for each kid to do this, and then
Speaker 2: the snack shack and this, and you're like, what is
Speaker 2: going on. Can't they just play just way too involved?
Speaker 2: They got so much time, Like I'm like, how do
Speaker 2: you have so much too much time on hands? It's
Speaker 2: too much, so much time on their hands. And a
Speaker 2: couple of the moms that are coaching and helping out
Speaker 2: with these young girls. I was like one of the
Speaker 2: only dad coaches, and I heard a couple of moms
Speaker 2: say things like, yeah, well we go a little extra
Speaker 2: in this league, or we go like you can't, like
Speaker 2: you can't go to extra. I mean, keep in mind
Speaker 2: it's also la but maybe that's how it is everywhere.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Like I'm picturing all these little girls
Speaker 2: coming in with like sparkle bats and like they're they're
Speaker 2: going a bit overboard. So I had an idea. I go, hey,
Speaker 2: you don't want to have a sparkle like Pine Tar incident.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't want to have a George Brett thing.
Speaker 2: You don't want to have a little Briella. Yeah, her
Speaker 2: home run didn't count too much, sparkle up the handle
Speaker 2: of the bat too much. You don't want to have
Speaker 2: a George bretton.
Speaker 4: Here is this rich in full uniform as the coach
Speaker 4: on the side he's.
Speaker 2: The manager as Tony Lush. Yeah he wears though I pink,
Speaker 2: not I black. I'm the He might be a player
Speaker 2: manager for Awena, So I do I do because this
Speaker 2: is an extra league. All the girls have their nicknames
Speaker 2: on the back of the jersey. I love how Rich
Speaker 2: calls himself the manager and not a coach. Since the
Speaker 2: beginning of time, anyone that coached your little league team
Speaker 2: was the coach, coach, butter Maker, coach Montini for me,
Speaker 2: coach whatever. Rich is the man. How do you not
Speaker 2: see the difference, because there I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: want to be. You know what a coach does. A
Speaker 2: coach shows up and helps the kids. You know what
Speaker 2: a manager does. I have to carry the equipment and
Speaker 2: he hits wrestlers with a steel chair. Yes, I'm mister Fucci.
Speaker 2: He has a megaphone. Yeah, I'm Paul Hayman. You'll get me.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I'm the manager that each team. What
Speaker 2: do the Yankees have a coach or manager? It's six
Speaker 2: year old softball, dude. I never You're the only guy
Speaker 2: I've ever heard say I'm the manager of a little
Speaker 2: kid team. When was the last time you my friends
Speaker 2: participated in the coaching round the little kids. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You don't think I have nephews and nieces that play sports,
Speaker 2: Like I promise you, the person running things they're calling them,
Speaker 2: just sure they call them the coach. You're the only
Speaker 2: guy I've ever heard say this for a six year
Speaker 2: old softball? Do the players call you rich? Coach? Rich?
Speaker 2: The manager? But every team has a manager. Dude, Joe,
Speaker 2: do you think I want to be the manager? You
Speaker 2: think I want to field emails from every parent? You
Speaker 2: think I want to be the one ordering little sparkle
Speaker 2: shirts roll the kid? Do you think I want to
Speaker 2: do that? No? Anyway, But here's where I do want
Speaker 2: to go extra. And I want to know if you
Speaker 2: guys think this is a bit much for all the
Speaker 2: same This is the question coach, for all the parents,
Speaker 2: for all the parents that coach their kids. Knowing that
Speaker 2: all these other California I rolling moms are going to
Speaker 2: go above and beyond with all the stuff for the kids,
Speaker 2: I was like, well, you know what form my team?
Speaker 2: I said, Hey, is there any rules against walk up music?
Speaker 2: And they're like no, But I don't think anyone's done
Speaker 2: it for the little girls. Like, oh, well, well, well
Speaker 2: hold on now, I think I got the Fox Sports
Speaker 2: radio voice to do player intros for the girls, and
Speaker 2: I asked all the girls, Hey, tell Coach Rich your
Speaker 2: favorite Disney song. So I'm gonna have these girls come
Speaker 2: up to bat with the Fox Sports voice introducing them
Speaker 2: while their favorite Disney song plays. Is that extra or
Speaker 2: is that awesome? It's extra and awesome. I will say
Speaker 2: this as a guy who built his career in radio,
Speaker 2: It's an honor to get the voice guy and the
Speaker 2: production guy to create an ID for you. I'll never
Speaker 2: forget working at k Rock, New York. And I was
Speaker 2: just a van driver who was doing weekend shifts at
Speaker 2: a big station. And the first time a production guy
Speaker 2: made me El Covino on ninety two to three A
Speaker 2: rock put a tingle in my radio dingle. So for
Speaker 2: these little nose picking kids to get that honor, just
Speaker 2: to walk up to their little kids softball game, that's
Speaker 2: a big deal. The little kids won't know how cool
Speaker 2: it is, but the parents, the parents will take note.
Speaker 2: Three one not a Juliet elementary school. Yeah, batting number six,
Speaker 2: her nose, her name is Cindy. Let's give it up
Speaker 2: for Cindy Lou who on the Pink Sparkles. Obviously you
Speaker 2: don't know little girls names now they're all like old
Speaker 2: lady names again. Oh Charley, Hello to Edith. So Daisy
Speaker 2: Daisy's batting, Second's Aronda and all and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I hit Phyllis and you know what, there's a there's
Speaker 2: an app. Well, I'll tell you the name of the
Speaker 2: app on your team. Yeah, hold on, I gotta I
Speaker 2: gotta tell you that. I gotta tell you the name
Speaker 2: of this app because this is it's called I think
Speaker 2: it's the batter batter Up. There's an app. There's an
Speaker 2: app for everything, there's an app for everything, but the
Speaker 2: actual app that people use there is that there's one
Speaker 2: that apparently is the universally loved one where I think
Speaker 2: it's batter up where you could load the voice and
Speaker 2: ten seconds of a song, right, and it's just like
Speaker 2: a touchpad. Kids having walk up music next bat sort
Speaker 2: of commonplace. I see that at liter League games today.
Speaker 2: But the actual radio, professional production and voice is next level.
Speaker 2: To answer your question, I think it's extra and awesome,
Speaker 2: but are you showing up other parents? Is this gonna
Speaker 2: ruffle some feathers and ruffle some ridges, is the question. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Are the other coaches on the other
Speaker 2: teams gonna be like, all right, guy, what's with your
Speaker 2: Frozen and Moana walk ups? And the girls like am I?
Speaker 2: Is this a little nice little jet to the other coach,
Speaker 2: a little coin, a little extra to the production people.
Speaker 2: You think they got just time to be voicing off
Speaker 2: these it's the production guy. I mean, I know it's
Speaker 2: like for a good cause and for little kids, and
Speaker 2: it's a nice thing to do. But is this like
Speaker 2: a pro bono sort of situation. Yes, yeah, you're gonna
Speaker 2: throw them like uh, money gived. You know what if
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to.
Speaker 1: Do any do it.
Speaker 5: No, this be a good side hustle for our boy, Vito,
Speaker 5: who does the production for a network. If they're jealous,
Speaker 5: just give them one of Vito's business cards.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you so, Hey, just just an idea.
Speaker 2: I just want a production guy needs extra work. Why
Speaker 2: are you even putting that out there? Because it's true,
Speaker 2: But I get it's a nice thing, it's for a
Speaker 2: good cause. Little kids are awesome. But to answer your question,
Speaker 2: very extra, but very I think you're using your resources
Speaker 2: and he's wrong with the MP three machine. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you I bought I bought a portable speaker yesterday
Speaker 2: on Amazon. I'm all sad. I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 2: bring a big speaker to the game. These kids my
Speaker 2: team has got. You know what all the other extra
Speaker 2: parents would be jealous of the spark Oh, we're didn't
Speaker 2: start at zero zero. We're this new season, new season
Speaker 2: for the Pink Sparkle Bandits.
Speaker 5: Riches out there with an instant replay, three point sixty
Speaker 5: on his lap playing sound effects.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just outside. So hey, if you're living that mom
Speaker 2: or dad coaching life, shout outs to you now today.
Speaker 2: I said this earlier. I think it's time to pay
Speaker 2: tribute to a to a movie, a classic that's twenty
Speaker 2: five years old to day. This movie came out February nineteenth,
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine. In that movie my Friend's Office Space,
Speaker 2: I'd say cult classic. But still I think Quotable definitely
Speaker 2: hit the mainstream. We've all seen it at this point,
Speaker 2: I would imagine. I mean, at this point it's twenty
Speaker 2: five years old and there was a side debate too.
Speaker 2: Is this the Ghetto boys biggest song? I'm saying no
Speaker 2: mind playing tricks on me because of the video. I
Speaker 2: have that on maximum single. I'm saying for the casual
Speaker 2: music fan, they know this song from the movie this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a big soundtrack song for this movie, no doubt,
Speaker 2: no diggity. Now, when you think of Off the Space,
Speaker 2: everyone immediately thinks of Lumberg, right as like the worst boss.
Speaker 2: That's the boss no one wants. Oh, I mean everyone pictures,
Speaker 2: you know, Lumberg getting it down. You don't want your
Speaker 2: wife to end up with Lumberg. I looked it up.
Speaker 2: It's Lumberg Lumberg because that was like, is it Lumberg
Speaker 2: or lumber Lumberg Lumberg Lumberg, Lumberg Lumberg. So it was
Speaker 2: also Mike Brady, didn't He also played Mike Brady and
Speaker 2: The Brady Bunch. Mike Lumberg played Mike Brady. Yeah, in
Speaker 2: the Brady Bunch movie.
Speaker 6: We have sort of a problem here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, talk about it and IMDb Lumberg and Mike Brady. Let
Speaker 2: me look up that dude's name, Well, look up his name,
Speaker 2: give him some props. But it got me. It got me.
Speaker 2: He does look like a he has a Bergeron vibe
Speaker 2: to so I ask you this, if you want to
Speaker 2: share a story about a bad boss or better yet,
Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Radio, but a bad manager, like you,
Speaker 2: what coach or manager do you feel like did the
Speaker 2: most damage to the team you're a fan of? Like
Speaker 2: is there a is there a team that you root
Speaker 2: for where one manager sticks out, like that guy set
Speaker 2: us back years he was the worst football, baseball, basketball?
Speaker 2: What coach or manager do you feel like, Wow, they
Speaker 2: did not Not only did they do nothing for my team,
Speaker 2: the fact that they hired this guy set the team
Speaker 2: in the wrong direction. You know, sometimes I think it's
Speaker 2: it's the team that sucked and not necessarily the manager,
Speaker 2: but because he managed the team, you associate him with sucking.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know as a kid growing up, if
Speaker 2: Stump Merrill was the worst manager ever but his name
Speaker 2: sucked and the team sucked, behigh So I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: he must have sucked. So it could be a misconceptsy
Speaker 2: like Dave conceptsion, it could be a misconception. By the way,
Speaker 2: Bill Lumberg was played by Gary Cole, who was Mike
Speaker 2: Brady and the Brady Bunch. Wow, it was Ron Livingstein
Speaker 2: and of course Mike Judge was behind the movie. Uh,
Speaker 2: Stephen Root played Milton my Stapler, my Dapler and Stephen
Speaker 2: Stephen who was also in Dodgeball. And I'll give you
Speaker 2: a fun fact. You want a fun fact, rich please?
Speaker 2: I believe Billy West was one of the co writers
Speaker 2: of this movie. He was involved, right, and he wrote
Speaker 2: the Milton character based on a dude that I worked
Speaker 2: with in radio. I worked with the guy that Milton
Speaker 2: was based on, and he was a weirdo just like that.
Speaker 2: I could I could listen to the radio to read
Speaker 2: the value Meg Stapler. So yeah, again twenty five years
Speaker 2: ago today, I does I think guy is synonymous with
Speaker 2: Stapler some anytimes someone asked for a Stapler. There's a
Speaker 2: reference to Milton from Office Spaces twenty five years old.
Speaker 2: Today again, if you're just joining us. February nineteenth, nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety nine, twenty five years ago, I forgot Jennifer Aniston
Speaker 2: was in that movie. Of course she was. She was
Speaker 2: who Lumberg was? I know, but like at the time,
Speaker 2: you didn't. I didn't realize it. Chokes was looking back now,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it in a minute, but yeah, Bill
Speaker 2: Lumberg is the is the one of the main characters.
Speaker 2: He's the boss and nobody likes him. No one's working.
Speaker 2: They do what and approximate what fifteen minutes of work
Speaker 2: per dayah or something like that. So Michael Bolton, Yes,
Speaker 2: Michael Bolton that no talent asked clown. Lots of quotes
Speaker 2: based on that. Who comes to mind? I mean there's
Speaker 2: a few people to come to mind for me. Now,
Speaker 2: you're always going to go to your team. You're always
Speaker 2: going to reference the team you root for, Like I
Speaker 2: remember that guy, he's stunk. In fact, our team was
Speaker 2: headed in the right direction until that guy. And listen
Speaker 2: my forty nine ers fresh off of Super Bowl loss.
Speaker 2: I got no problems with Kyle Shanahan. But if you
Speaker 2: want to rewind ooh, I don't know seven years. I
Speaker 2: think eight years. Do you remember the Chip Kelly in
Speaker 2: San Francisco experiment? Yeah? One year with the Niners two
Speaker 2: and fourteen it was like, yeah, this later by out.
Speaker 2: You could say, what about what about Urban Meyer in
Speaker 2: Jacksonville didn't even last a year? Who comes to mind
Speaker 2: for you? Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox? What
Speaker 2: about coach Klein in water Boy? When he lost his confidence?
Speaker 2: When when his playbook was stolen a lah. Henry Winkler,
Speaker 2: the fond as the coach in water Boy, just wasn't
Speaker 2: the same without his playbook. Look Like I said, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of times too when you want to think
Speaker 2: about leaders, coaches, managers, just guys you worked with too.
Speaker 2: There's also that fine line of were they the worst
Speaker 2: because they pushed you hard and pushed you to be
Speaker 2: better as a result. Well, because I've worked for people
Speaker 2: that I hated at the time, kind of like the
Speaker 2: movie twenty seven No, Devilwaar's Prada or Whiplash, Like JK.
Speaker 2: Simmons was the worst teacher, but did he push you
Speaker 2: for greatness? And that's why he hated him because it
Speaker 2: was tough at the time. I look back and I
Speaker 2: worked for tyrants rich, but you know they taught me
Speaker 2: work ethic that I used to my advantage in the future.
Speaker 2: So made two movie references Devilwaar's Prada and Whiplash. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the real life version of the grumpy guy that gets
Speaker 2: a lot out of you. The new documentary people are
Speaker 2: talking a lot about the Patriots, the Dynasty, and you're
Speaker 2: already seeing Danny g the footage coming out of that
Speaker 2: where they're making it seem like Bill Belichick was like
Speaker 2: not only was he not fun to play for, but
Speaker 2: like it was like miserable. Yeah, I mean, and maybe
Speaker 2: that's why he's not finding a landing spot right now.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's got the resume and the credentials, But
Speaker 2: what young dude wants to play for that type of
Speaker 2: guy right now? I don't know.
Speaker 5: The comments from Gronk. From Gronk make it seem like
Speaker 5: they felt like they were in prison.
Speaker 2: Well you saw the personalities of Tom Brady and Gronk,
Speaker 2: like when they played for the Bucks for that year,
Speaker 2: for those year or so, they were like different people.
Speaker 2: But again, what did he bring out in these guys greatness?
Speaker 2: He was very JK. Simmons life, you know, And that's
Speaker 2: that's part of it.
Speaker 4: And I this might be a little off the topic,
Speaker 4: but I thought that about Bill Belichick until I seen
Speaker 4: his honey. You can't pull a fine honey like he
Speaker 4: got and be the dude everybody's saying.
Speaker 2: He is, NA, you can separate that that's working personal.
Speaker 2: Maybe the field he's like, uh, maybe the honey like
Speaker 2: the money, ah, you know, you never know, so or
Speaker 2: maybe he holds it down. Maybe he yeah, maybe it's
Speaker 2: his trumpsp sneakers? What U what coach or manager set
Speaker 2: your team back in a way that you hated so much? So,
Speaker 2: since it is the anniversary of Office Space, who is
Speaker 2: your lumberg? Who is the guy that you're like, I
Speaker 2: hate this coach, I hate this manager. I brought up
Speaker 2: the one year ex experiment of Chip Kelly for the
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. I mean, there are times where your
Speaker 2: team gets rid of a guy you like and they
Speaker 2: bring in someone else and you're like, that's who they're
Speaker 2: going with, all right? Usually you know an interim guy.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you know is that guy? And I believe Jock Vaughan,
Speaker 2: coach of the Nets, was just fired. Yeahpeaking up to
Speaker 2: tie it in, was just let go today. So the
Speaker 2: lumberg that comes, I'm sorry, the lumberg that comes to
Speaker 2: mind for you in honor of this cult classic, like
Speaker 2: anyone's I don't think anyone's devastated about jocke I think
Speaker 2: it was time to move on anyway, all right, your
Speaker 2: phone calls your feedback. Next Covino and rich In for
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Speaker 4: I mean I have.
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Speaker 2: and Rich on social media talking about the worst coaches,
Speaker 2: worst bosses. In tribute to Lumberg from Office Space, which
Speaker 2: came out twenty five years ago today, Feel old yet
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine on this date, Office Space. Great movie,
Speaker 2: you said, could classic. It's a cult classic and it's
Speaker 2: now old enough to have a mustache. It could have
Speaker 2: been married and divorced by now for all we know,
Speaker 2: now twenty five years old. How you feeling today, by
Speaker 2: the way, not bad? Why would you say okay? I'd
Speaker 2: say I'm okay Martin van Buren. Oh, you know who
Speaker 2: went to Martin van Buren High School? Your dad, Burger
Speaker 2: Fries Rob Parker right here for Boppy from Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2: The Rob Parker. Rob park went to Martin van Buren
Speaker 2: High School in Queens. And it was Martin van Buren
Speaker 2: who came up with and popularized the phrase okay rock
Speaker 2: Okay is a Martin van Buren thing who came up
Speaker 2: with Oki doki Okay is an idiom that took the
Speaker 2: world by storm when it came out of the mouth
Speaker 2: of President Martin van Buren. Van Buren carried the nickname
Speaker 2: old Kinderhook okay and he would say, oh okay. Well,
Speaker 2: George Bush came up with fool me once. Shame on you,
Speaker 2: shame on you, fool me twice. Won't be fooled the game? Yeah,
Speaker 2: he did come up. That was a good one too.
Speaker 7: Hey.
Speaker 2: Speaking of presidential fun facts, oh, Bill Cone was the
Speaker 2: only one that had a cigar forget Canton, No no, No,
Speaker 2: you can't say that on Fox. But there's an unwritten study,
Speaker 2: unwritten rule or law or theory. I should say that,
Speaker 2: either subconsciously or consciously, not a day goes by that
Speaker 2: President Abe Lincoln doesn't cross your mind. Meaning maybe you
Speaker 2: see a stop sign, a school, a statue, a building,
Speaker 2: a five dollars bill, a penny on the ground. Something
Speaker 2: happens once a day you listen to Lincoln Park, you
Speaker 2: think of Abe Lincoln. You see some dude with a
Speaker 2: top hat, you see Danny G's beard like, you see
Speaker 2: something that reminds you of Abe Lincoln. You see someone
Speaker 2: hunting vampires. Yeah, no, but it's true, and think about
Speaker 2: it next time it crosses your mind and be like, ah,
Speaker 2: I've heard that before. Well in honor, we said twenty
Speaker 2: five years ago, the movie Office Space came out on
Speaker 2: this day, Lumberg might have been the worst boss. So
Speaker 2: he said, Hey, worst boss, worst coach. He was sort
Speaker 2: of apathetic. What coach set your team back? Where you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I hated that coach. I forgot this one. I gotta
Speaker 2: be honest. Someone hit me up with this. Cowboys fans
Speaker 2: probably don't forget Dave Campo. Three years in the early
Speaker 2: two thousands where they went five and eleven, five and
Speaker 2: eleven and five eleven, the fact that Jerry Jones stuck
Speaker 2: with him for three years because he was a defensive
Speaker 2: coordinator on some of those big championship teams. But and
Speaker 2: I would say that's a fair assessment, too rich, because
Speaker 2: I mean some of the names that we threw out there.
Speaker 2: You think of the worst years of whatever team you
Speaker 2: root for, and you're gonna associate that coach with it.
Speaker 2: But sometimes in their defense, they had a weak team
Speaker 2: to deal with and really didn't get much opportunity and
Speaker 2: are sometimes three years that's that's a good chance to
Speaker 2: prove yourself. Or sometimes the personnel's there and the coach
Speaker 2: just stinks. And no offense to Romeo Crenell, but he
Speaker 2: went two and fourteen with the Chiefs with six Pro
Speaker 2: Bowlers and a pretty sweet roster. Andy Reid took over
Speaker 2: the next year eleven and five, and the rest is history.
Speaker 2: That's when the Chiefs started really coming into their own.
Speaker 2: So sometimes the coach just thinks, Josh McDaniels seems like
Speaker 2: he's done that for a couple teams.
Speaker 5: Now, oh man, there's been a couple of coaches. Besides
Speaker 5: Josh McDaniel's being pretty obvious. Think back to twenty twelve
Speaker 5: through twenty fourteen. Dennis Allen.
Speaker 8: Oh, I was gonna, I was gonna say Art Shell
Speaker 8: two point zero. I mean, at least Artchell had always
Speaker 8: love him. Halt, Yeah, I love him all right. He's
Speaker 8: a Hall of Famer. Dennis Allen eight and twenty eight
Speaker 8: in a very punishable face.
Speaker 2: Now I'll throw one out there too, to not steal
Speaker 2: anyone's thunder. I see a lot of people are on hold,
Speaker 2: so I'm not going to steal your as like if
Speaker 2: you a random one. Dave Shula like fatherlike son, not exactly.
Speaker 2: Non Shula as the most wins in NFL history, finishing
Speaker 2: his career with a record of three twenty eight, one,
Speaker 2: fifty six and six. His son Dave spent all hi
Speaker 2: on four and a half seasons. Hi, I'm Dave with
Speaker 2: the Bengals, compiling a record of nineteen and fifty two.
Speaker 2: So he goes down, especially being that his dad was
Speaker 2: one of the greats. Yeah, you know, it's hard to
Speaker 2: be Dave. It's like being h It's like being Fred
Speaker 2: Claus when your brother Santa. It's like being Ozzie Consider,
Speaker 2: it's like being Frank Stallone. Let's say, what's up to
Speaker 2: Eric in Connecticut? What's up man? What coach comes to mind?
Speaker 2: What coach or manager set your team back? What do
Speaker 2: you got?
Speaker 7: You already sold my thunder. I was gonna say Josh
Speaker 7: McDaniels with the Broncos, because man, my team's still struggling
Speaker 7: fifteen years later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like he I think it's over for him,
Speaker 2: not as a coordinator. Some you know, he'll he'll. I
Speaker 2: think he'll be around the league. But I think the
Speaker 2: days of someone saying he's the guy that's gonna lead
Speaker 2: our team. Sometimes as good coordinators that like Steve Spagnola
Speaker 2: as a head coach had some rough moments, but you
Speaker 2: could argue he's a Hall of Fame coordinator. So sometimes
Speaker 2: you just gotta know your your way, you fit.
Speaker 5: Yeah, guys like Norv Turner was a great, great coordinator,
Speaker 5: exactly really bad head coach.
Speaker 2: You could say. You could say that about a lot
Speaker 2: of coordinators where it's like, yo, you're you're best at
Speaker 2: just doing this, and you know what's It's another topic
Speaker 2: maybe for another day, but now that the forty nine
Speaker 2: ers are looking for a new defensive coordinator. Two names
Speaker 2: that are floating around are Pete Carroll and Bill bellich check,
Speaker 2: which sounds ridiculous, but Kevino's like, why would you ever
Speaker 2: be a Hall of Fame level coach and then be
Speaker 2: a coordinator? But maybe at a certain time of your career,
Speaker 2: like you know what, I want the challenge. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it seems like a big step back,
Speaker 2: but it seems like a step back. But maybe that's
Speaker 2: where they are in their career and they're willing to
Speaker 2: put their ego aside and be honest about it, then yeah,
Speaker 2: that could work. Mike. In Montana, you're all with convene
Speaker 2: on Rich and for the great Dan Patrick. What's up, Mike?
Speaker 2: What's up? Mike?
Speaker 3: You know we'rest coach. We're going back to high school
Speaker 3: ninety five Burlingame High School varsity baseball coach Terry Whitfield garbage.
Speaker 2: Is this your personal experience? Yes, sir, I'm sure Terry
Speaker 2: is proud of the shout out you've given him. What
Speaker 2: what made it so bad? He benched, Mike. Mike got
Speaker 2: pulled in the second inning. Yeah, sorry, Mike, sit to
Speaker 2: hear about that. John and Florida. What's up, John, you're
Speaker 2: all with Covine on Rich?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm gonna say Nick Saban the one year he
Speaker 9: did with the Miami doll and when he asked for
Speaker 9: total control, picked Culpepper over Breeze, and then quite a
Speaker 9: year into it and we didn't even have a GM
Speaker 9: or a president of operations to hires replacement and we
Speaker 9: were all downhill after that.
Speaker 2: You know, because of his collegiate success, a lot of
Speaker 2: times that sort of swept aside, but he really did
Speaker 2: set your team back. Like that was again a very
Speaker 2: urban Meyer Jacksonville jackstyle, where it's like this is not working,
Speaker 2: like when a team pulls the plug before season one
Speaker 2: is done. I mean, look at Frank Reich in Carolina.
Speaker 2: You had Bryce Young, you had a fresh young team,
Speaker 2: and what did they win one game before they let
Speaker 2: him go? Hey, Rich, how do you think the Weieniels
Speaker 2: of today would view the coaches we had growing up
Speaker 2: with cigars and blowing cigarette, smoking your face and wearing
Speaker 2: like beer T shirts. And you know, the coaches we had,
Speaker 2: I mean I thought they were great coaches, but how
Speaker 2: would they view that type of coach in today's world?
Speaker 2: I'd like to think we're not that old. But if
Speaker 2: you played sports in the nineties, like my little league,
Speaker 2: coaches were smoking pipes and cigarettes and cursing and everything
Speaker 2: like one hundred percent. And when I had just a
Speaker 2: kid's stance, now I have to be the depth to hey, parents,
Speaker 2: could I touch their arms? You know, it was at
Speaker 2: a very different time. It was a bunch of old
Speaker 2: guys who didn't even have kids in the league anymore.
Speaker 2: They just want to get away from their wife. They
Speaker 2: just wanted to get out of the house. So I
Speaker 2: wonder how you view that in today's world. I just
Speaker 2: looked this up Rich because it's funny. I always assumed
Speaker 2: Buddy Bell he was a coach for a long time.
Speaker 2: You know, the Bells have a long history in baseball.
Speaker 2: But Buddy failed pretty bad for three different organizations. I
Speaker 2: was not aware of that. The Tigers one hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty four two seventy seven. The Colorado Rockies won sixty
Speaker 2: one and one eighty five, the Royals from two thousand
Speaker 2: and five to two thousand and seven one hundred and
Speaker 2: seventy four wins two hundred sixty two losses. Again, not
Speaker 2: a lot of talent on those teams. But he had
Speaker 2: a winning percentage of under five hundred, like barely four hundred.
Speaker 2: So Buddy Bell failed three times with three different teams.
Speaker 2: Now the hat trick of losing. He brought up the Tigers. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I I think I'm correct in saying they tried
Speaker 2: to go to the well with Alan Trammel, And I
Speaker 2: get why teams do it, right, they take a former familiarity,
Speaker 2: they take the former all star face of the team.
Speaker 2: Years later, like every time the Mets have an open position,
Speaker 2: what do you always hear based out of our New
Speaker 2: York friends, Oh this you're going with a Wally Backman
Speaker 2: or you know, bring in Beltroun or oh David right,
Speaker 2: you always want to go to the well of who
Speaker 2: is the star player he could coach? Now rest in peace.
Speaker 2: Before Gary Carter passed Dowa, I remember back in the day,
Speaker 2: they're like they should have Gary Carter. That's a sentiment.
Speaker 2: It's a good uh press release.
Speaker 5: I had a lift driver call up. He couldn't stay
Speaker 5: on hold, but he said to mention. Magic Johnson is
Speaker 5: very short tenure coaching the Lakers. He was five and eleven.
Speaker 5: Remember he resigned because the Lakers finished the season on
Speaker 5: a ten game losing streak. So he's known obviously for
Speaker 5: failing at that in his late night TV talk show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not everybody could do that. And by the way,
Speaker 2: his late night TV talk show, a lot of that
Speaker 2: credit unfortunately goes to Howard Stern when he made a
Speaker 2: total mockery of it and they sang wipeout and they were,
Speaker 2: you know, ripping ass.
Speaker 5: Now, later Mike Magic said the reason he hated coaching
Speaker 5: was because he couldn't get the players to practice and
Speaker 5: have excellence of the game the way he did, so
Speaker 5: he was just really frustrated.
Speaker 2: How about this stint rich on your team, Mike Singletary.
Speaker 2: I didn't mind Singletary, the Singletary years eighteen and twenty two.
Speaker 2: Can't play with him. But again, yeah, I didn't hate him.
Speaker 2: I didn't hate him because the Niners have had like Mike,
Speaker 2: Tom Sullo, Jim Kelly. He was fired though, and it
Speaker 2: was sort of a bizarre little stint. That is true team,
Speaker 2: but there have been worse And uh, what did you
Speaker 2: just bring up before that? I'm brain Dad at Magic
Speaker 2: John's Magic Johnson. I know it's based on U reality,
Speaker 2: but that DOCU series we loved about the Lakers winning
Speaker 2: time on HBO that got canceled unfortunately. Paul westthead. I mean,
Speaker 2: he won with the Lakers, but after that he really
Speaker 2: didn't have much success. That you wonder like, well, the
Speaker 2: leaders could body seem to be in question? Could anyone
Speaker 2: have d energy? Could any of anyone have led that
Speaker 2: Lakers squad to glory? Because they were just stacked back
Speaker 2: then late.
Speaker 5: I wouldn't say anyone because there were so many big
Speaker 5: personalities on the team. You had to be a leader
Speaker 5: of men. You had to be able to get all
Speaker 5: of those egos in check and be able to work together.
Speaker 2: You know. It's always an interesting one. And again there
Speaker 2: a lot of them are legends. But have you noticed
Speaker 2: that in sports very rarely we brought this up recently,
Speaker 2: very rarely when a legendary coach or manager goes to
Speaker 2: another team. Bruce Bochi defied the odds by winning with
Speaker 2: the Rangers. That's how the conversation came up. Remember during
Speaker 2: baseball season, we're saying, very rarely do coaches or managers
Speaker 2: go to another team later in their career and duplicate
Speaker 2: the success, like Jimmy Johnson with the Dolphins. Anywhere Parcels
Speaker 2: went anywhere. Remember Joe Gibbs two point oh arcell two
Speaker 2: point zero, Like anytime you go to the well a
Speaker 2: second time, it doesn't usually translate like can Like if
Speaker 2: Belichick were to get a head coaching job next year,
Speaker 2: I think you'd be crazy to think it means automatic success.
Speaker 2: Joe Tory with the Dodgers. Joe Toy with the Dodgers
Speaker 2: came off of looking like he couldn't not win one
Speaker 2: hundred games as a manager, and then you know that
Speaker 2: was short lived in Los Angeles. So it could be bosses,
Speaker 2: because we're doing this in tribute to Bill Lundberg, your
Speaker 2: von Burg, your favorite boss, my favorite worst boss ever
Speaker 2: from Office Space TPS reports could have been a boss
Speaker 2: well Tony Lusso and his last thing with the White
Speaker 2: Sox for sure, Yeah that didn't vibe. Yeah, but he
Speaker 2: but he is a guy that won in multiple places, right,
Speaker 2: but he overstayed his welcome. Maybe he was one hundred
Speaker 2: and seventy six years old coaching young guys, so you know,
Speaker 2: maybe it was in your life. Maybe it's a coach.
Speaker 2: We'll take your phone calls to wrap it up. Dave
Speaker 2: and Boise. What's up, Dave?
Speaker 3: Hi, I'm Dave.
Speaker 9: Big Fangio with the Dolphins, absolute vibe killer. Would not
Speaker 9: players would not play for him.
Speaker 2: You get that vibe. Sometimes you're like, yeah, this is
Speaker 2: they got to pull the plug. And sometimes the team
Speaker 2: doesn't pull the plug right away, and you're like, now
Speaker 2: we're just killing time. Now we're just killing time. Robert
Speaker 2: and said to about vibe killing. You know, there's vibe
Speaker 2: creators and vibe enhancers. And you see that with Danny
Speaker 2: G's Raiders right now with Antonio Pearce. That dude's a
Speaker 2: vibe creator. Vibe setter. Doesn't mean no win, but he's
Speaker 2: a vibe creator. Need that as a leader too. You
Speaker 2: need to change that culture. If it's it starts from
Speaker 2: the top. If that guy is weak, yeah, it's not
Speaker 2: gonna be. It's not a good outlook for your team.
Speaker 2: What's up, Robert, Yeah, what's up? Buddy?
Speaker 6: Hey?
Speaker 3: Billy Martin.
Speaker 7: Blue out the five best arms in the eighties worst ever.
Speaker 2: You know, what's a weird thing to look back on.
Speaker 2: I was a little kid in the eighties, more of
Speaker 2: nineties kid, but you know, as a kid growing up
Speaker 2: on the East Coast, I grew up in New York.
Speaker 2: The whole Billy Martin lup Panela thing. Looking back, it
Speaker 2: felt so weird to me, just as a kid like, wait,
Speaker 2: does Steinbrenner just keep switching them when he's in a
Speaker 2: bad mood? And looking back, it seems like that was
Speaker 2: the case. I don't think you've ever seen anything like
Speaker 2: that in any other sport, right where it felt like
Speaker 2: every year or so it was like and then he
Speaker 2: just dissed Yogi Bearra and that's why he didn't come
Speaker 2: back for all those years. Yeah, that was a weird
Speaker 2: ego thing though, Billie Martin for sure. Yeah, h Wilson.
Speaker 2: We'll take the rest of your feedback at Covino on
Speaker 2: rich In for the Great Dan Patrick. We have more next,
Speaker 2: we'll tuggle NFL to wrap the show. Hang Tight cn
Speaker 2: R on FSR.
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Speaker 2: let's be friends. Let's do it. Joe played a little
Speaker 2: missy in Sierra? Did you play that? Because Sierra is
Speaker 2: packing up the house? Do you see Russell Wilson put
Speaker 2: the mansion on the market in Denver. You don't do that.
Speaker 2: You don't buy one of the most expensive properties in
Speaker 2: Colorado history and put it on the market if you
Speaker 2: don't think the writing's on the walls and play for
Speaker 2: the Jets. I hear one st Where's he? Where's he going?
Speaker 2: I keep doing just kidding. There's rumors and speculation on
Speaker 2: which teams he'd fit in best with, and of course
Speaker 2: the Raiders and the Steelers Jets. So something's going down.
Speaker 2: Or maybe he realized he had far too many bathrooms
Speaker 2: in that Denver mansion. What did he have? Like twelve?
Speaker 2: But he only had four bedrooms, which could be a
Speaker 2: tactic like I just don't want visitors. Who knows, we'll
Speaker 2: keep you put. We're gonna actually wrap up with the NFL. Well,
Speaker 2: you know what, let's take two quick phone calls and
Speaker 2: then I have thoughts on Russell Wilson. Well, we'll get
Speaker 2: to our more NFL stuff tomorrow. We're a couple of
Speaker 2: days for Dan, Greg and Louisiana. You're all at CNR.
Speaker 2: What's up Bud?
Speaker 7: Thanks guys. First of all, on and off the field,
Speaker 7: Steve Kime Arizona worst general manager, crap the bed with
Speaker 7: all his number one draft picks for over ten years,
Speaker 7: not to mention a terrible contract to Cliff Kingsbury and
Speaker 7: freeak In, Kylan Turdberry. And then just an off note,
Speaker 7: I went to high school with friends with Greg Pitts
Speaker 7: from the Office who made the face he got out
Speaker 7: the classes at the Vans High School.
Speaker 2: There you go, and by the way I left him?
Speaker 2: What do you call him? Kyler? Who do you call him?
Speaker 2: Cliff Turdberry had some name from anyway? Good bad coach.
Speaker 2: Let's go to Tommy. Wrap it up. We're in honor
Speaker 2: of the twenty fifth anniversary of Office Space. Who is
Speaker 2: your Lumberg? What coach? What boss? So to speak? Was
Speaker 2: the worst for your team? What's up Tommy?
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, So let's go back to the eighties, right
Speaker 6: for you? Eighties throwback? The Seahawks starting quarterback suddenly gets
Speaker 6: a job as the Washington head coach. Came out of nowhere.
Speaker 6: Nobody wanted Jim Zorn as a Washington head coach and
Speaker 6: nobody wanted how we longed to act in movies, but
Speaker 6: those were two bad professional moves that we just had
Speaker 6: to put up with. Thank god, Jimson is gone.
Speaker 2: Thank you Tommy. How long the movie start? And can
Speaker 2: I wrap it up with? You know who's the weakest manager.
Speaker 1: All on?
Speaker 2: Bill Lumberg style, Rich Davis of the Pink Sparkle Pixies.
Speaker 2: How I mean we're inform not even yeah, not even
Speaker 2: a manag He's a coach. I'm the manager. He's got
Speaker 2: a headset on because he's the DJ. Where gonna be
Speaker 2: the best six and under girl soccball team in the valley.
Speaker 4: You'll see, we'll see all right, But he can't turn
Speaker 4: off all the lights outside and put a spotlight scrobe them?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: You know what then't the girls have a tendency to
Speaker 2: do every little kid when you try to feel the
Speaker 2: ground ball, there's a couple of girls that try to
Speaker 2: like push their glove down on it, and you have
Speaker 2: to teach them, like no, no, no, Well you know
Speaker 2: whose job is to teach him?
Speaker 3: Me?
Speaker 2: You you better get on it. Coach Dicky got a
Speaker 2: coach's job. Orn't you know tough questions. Guy thinks he's
Speaker 2: Tony LaRussa. Now you brought up Russell Wilson. Joel played
Speaker 2: a little Sierra one two step, great classic from the
Speaker 2: two thousands. Sierra's pack in the house. They put it
Speaker 2: on the market, which means writing is on the wall.
Speaker 2: Now you gotta ask yourself this. There's quarterbacks out there
Speaker 2: that you're gonna absorb a little money and there's not
Speaker 2: much you need to give in return. And then there's
Speaker 2: some players where you're gonna have to give something a return.
Speaker 2: So if you're Pittsburgh and Mike Tomlin, do you say,
Speaker 2: I want Justin Fields, But Chicago's gonna want something for
Speaker 2: Justin Fields and want Justin Fields over Russell Wilson. But
Speaker 2: you know what, Russell Wilson comes with a cheaper a
Speaker 2: cheap price tag for what his contract was, right, and
Speaker 2: you don't they're not wanting anything in return, the Broncos.
Speaker 2: The Broncos are pretty much saying, like, take them on
Speaker 2: a deal, we don't really need anything in return. So
Speaker 2: if you're the Pittsburgh Steelers or you know, one of
Speaker 2: these teams like the Vikings, if you have the Vikings,
Speaker 2: you stick with Cousins or do you say, oh, we
Speaker 2: want Justin Fields. Do you take a chance on a
Speaker 2: veteran or do you give a young guy a big contract?
Speaker 2: Like what about the Dolphins? If you're the Dolphins, do
Speaker 2: you say let's give two of the big deal or
Speaker 2: do you say, you know what, let's not do that
Speaker 2: the crust bringing like a Cousins or something like that,
Speaker 2: not a like a Cousin's. I'm saying he did well
Speaker 2: in that role towards the day he's done. That's that's
Speaker 2: all I think that I didn't mean this year. I'm
Speaker 2: just giving you the example from last year. That's Tampa
Speaker 2: Joel rug Florida team. Yeah, I know, I think they
Speaker 2: found their quarterback. And then tomorrow Rich based on all this,
Speaker 2: we're gonna try to figure out what team is looking
Speaker 2: best for next year. There's so much speculation, which should
Speaker 2: be the most excited. We're eight days where eight days
Speaker 2: removed from the Super Bowl, there's already articles, headlines, pieces
Speaker 2: done on what teams should the Chiefs be worried about?
Speaker 2: We just saw this morning. Was it on Speaker or ESPN?
Speaker 2: Was it on Fox or ESPA? Where it's who are
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers. Biggest worry in the NFC next season,
Speaker 2: It's like the biggest worry it was Green Bay. The
Speaker 2: Rams are the allions the end. No one's even given
Speaker 2: the Cowboys or Eagles credits. We'll talk about what teams
Speaker 2: should be concerned, who should be excited. We'll get to
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