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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks.

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, February seventeenth, and it has happened to

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Speaker 2: Americans on the ice again.

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Speaker 1: At the Olympics. What is going on?

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Speaker 2: We just watched another heart breaking moment from one of

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Speaker 2: the biggest ice skating stars that we have and with that,

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Speaker 2: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Roobes. First,

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Speaker 2: there was the ice dancers that got screwed out of

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Speaker 2: a goal with controversy overscoring.

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Speaker 1: Then how the hell did that happens?

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Speaker 2: To the quad god and we are seeing we just

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Speaker 2: witnessed and you all as we're recording this, we are

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Speaker 2: minutes away of watching another heartbreaker for the Americans.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Amber Glenn, who was and a lot of folks

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Speaker 3: had pinned their hopes on her getting gold. Of course,

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Speaker 3: this is the premiere metal. When you watch the Winteral

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Speaker 3: limb and if you remember all those years of watching

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Speaker 3: as a kid, you remember who won, especially when they

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Speaker 3: were Team USA, the gold medal in women's figure skating.

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Speaker 3: This is the moment and we haven't had a gold

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Speaker 3: medalist in decades, so this is a big deal.

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Speaker 1: That's proper context.

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Speaker 2: And we've been talking about I was asking you there

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Speaker 2: is no bigger event, and bigger gold medal in the

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Speaker 2: Summer Games, and the all around women's title in gymnastics,

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Speaker 2: and the gold in women's figure skating.

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Speaker 1: This is what we're talking about. This is how big

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Speaker 2: That context is important because if you're going after that

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Speaker 2: thing and you're are biggest star, she had very high hopes.

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Speaker 4: She did, and so many people were rooting her on.

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Speaker 3: She skated to Madonna's uh wait not, I was gonna

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Speaker 3: say it like a It's not like a version.

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Speaker 4: It's like a prayer. I almost had like a version,

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Speaker 4: and no, it was like a prayer. But we even

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Speaker 4: saw coverage. It was everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Madonna sent her a video message saying, go for gold.

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Speaker 3: How can you not win? I've seen you skate singing

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Speaker 4: You know you get it.

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Speaker 3: So like all that pressure and then in the stands,

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Speaker 3: I saw Ilia Melanin.

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Speaker 1: You also saw Snoop.

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Speaker 2: You also saw Artha Steward, Greygaejeon the actor. You saw

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Speaker 2: this is the premiere event and people are there. Look,

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Speaker 2: we got three American darlings competing in this event. She

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Speaker 2: might be Darling number one in different ways. But the

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Speaker 2: what they call them are ice angels. What the nickname they.

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Speaker 1: Have for these young ladies, but they're just superb.

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Speaker 4: I think Blade Angel, Blade ain't that wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Everything is perfect, and she is just the great personality,

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Speaker 2: the three time reigning US figure skating champion. We say

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Speaker 2: all that to say this, folks. The women's figure stating

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Speaker 2: figure skating competition started today. We watched every single second

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Speaker 2: of every single skater she was. She went next to last,

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Speaker 1: She had a flawless routine going.

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Speaker 3: She did, in fact, the hardest triple axule. I believe

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Speaker 3: that she'd been practicing NonStop. She nailed it right out

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Speaker 2: And she landed in thirteenth place. Now what this means, folks,

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Speaker 2: anybody else. I need to I had to look up

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Speaker 2: and confirm how this worked. But the scores from today

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Speaker 2: The free skate is what they call it, which will

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Speaker 3: She sat on the ice and she sobbed, and as

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Speaker 3: literally within reach, except for that last jump, that last

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Speaker 4: Nothing.

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Speaker 1: You work four.

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Speaker 2: Years and one rotation in the air that lasts a

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Speaker 1: It was devastating to watch you all, and some of

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Speaker 2: Going to listen to this, and there are replays that

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Speaker 2: Roves just another one of these incredible Olympic stories of

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Speaker 1: And your heart breaks for this young lady.

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Speaker 2: She's full tears by the time she gets off the ice,

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Speaker 2: neck was they called the kiss and what booth, the

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Speaker 3: Time, almost yes, And it was her coach who actually

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Speaker 3: You know, you usually see them get up and sit

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Speaker 2: And here's the thing, folks, Look, we know that anything

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Speaker 2: it's just she's so far back. Look, if she could

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Speaker 3: Her less correct than what she did correct, because we've

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Speaker 2: It was zero for zero points. She got no credit

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Speaker 2: for an attempt of any kind.

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Speaker 4: Right, that doesn't seem fair. I know those are the rules,

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Speaker 3: Like, wow, you did two more than any of us

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Speaker 3: But it just seems so unfair because it's not as

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Speaker 4: She didn't even fall.

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Speaker 3: And she doesn't have a shot of even getting on

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Speaker 2: But falling her score re least been good enough to

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Speaker 2: in significant ways. But stay here, we'll explain why this

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Speaker 1: I think she has one more event.

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Speaker 3: Lindsay Vaughan obviously, who now yes, and this speeds get

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Speaker 2: Just those two Ilia Mallan, and it's like a freak Olympics. Look,

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Speaker 1: And this young lady today.

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Speaker 1: That is just some weird's.

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Speaker 3: So all of the athletes who you've been seeing on commercials,

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Speaker 3: And it seems at least this time around, most of

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Speaker 2: Look, it's it's the Olympics and these things happen. As

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Speaker 2: They know how to handle pressure. The quad God admitted

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Speaker 2: We talk about pressure and all these things. This seems

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Speaker 3: Yes, and that seemed to be that was nothing that

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