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Speaker 1: Okay, ladies and gentlemen, we have another emergency episode of

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Speaker 1: the Meat Eater podcast where something happens with such significance

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Speaker 1: that you just have to go with it.

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Speaker 2: Live now flop.

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Speaker 1: Dear Dad, I got a text from my beloved friend,

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Speaker 1: Ronald F.

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Speaker 2: Bain.

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Speaker 1: He says, is there a time a day or two

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Speaker 1: of the week that we could have a conversation. I

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Speaker 1: have a story. When I tell you the story, you

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Speaker 1: will not believe it. But it's going to take some time.

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Speaker 1: I'm intrigued, he replies, I say, I'm intrigued. He replies,

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Speaker 1: I would put it on a scale if Jesus was

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Speaker 1: buried and rose again three days later. Well that and

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Speaker 1: that story's got a lot of press.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's an old story and I don't know

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Speaker 3: any witnesses. I don't know any witnesses to that story.

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Speaker 1: In this one, well, this one, there's a witness that

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Speaker 1: this story. There's a witness, and we need to find them.

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Speaker 1: That's the objective. So if you're if you're listening or watching,

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Speaker 1: pay special attention to this story. It's a story about

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Speaker 1: the salvation of a dog, the resurrection of a dog,

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Speaker 1: and there's a person, there's a person in this country

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Speaker 1: of tremendous interest, possibly two or three people of tremendous interest,

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Speaker 1: if we can find them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're looking for one more puzzle piece.

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Speaker 2: But first, Oh go ahead, No, you're good.

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Speaker 4: No, yeah, I said, we're looking for one more. I've

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Speaker 4: got as much of the story as it could be accumulated.

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Speaker 4: But I just wanted to figure maybe in your audience

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Speaker 4: somebody saw something or got home and said, you won't

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Speaker 4: believe what I saw today.

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Speaker 2: Yep, and they're out there. We're going to find them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we're hoping. We're hoping.

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Speaker 1: Uh, but first uh meet either live the Christmas two

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Speaker 1: are headed to the South.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we got here one second.

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Speaker 1: Fayetteville, Arkansas has sold out, so scratch that. But we

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Speaker 1: got December seventeenth, Birmingham, Alabama at the Lyric. December eighteen, Nashville,

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Speaker 1: Tennessee at Marathon Music Works. December nineteenth, Memphis, Tennessee at

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Speaker 1: Minglewood Hall. The twentieth is FAYETTEVILLEA was too late twenty first, Dallas, Texas,

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Speaker 1: Texas Theater, December twenty second, Austin, Texas at the Paramount

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Speaker 1: me The Latvian Lover Clay Nukeombe Brent Reeves, Doctor Randall,

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Speaker 1: all headed out hitting the road. A lot of laughs, giveaway,

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Speaker 1: a lot of prizes, music, very entertaining night. So get

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Speaker 1: your girlfriend what she actually wants. There's some stupid slippers.

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Speaker 1: Get her tickets to the Christmas Tour. Another thing, it's

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Speaker 1: been out for a while but I haven't mentioned this yet.

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Speaker 1: We got a new Meat Eater storm Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Stop

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Speaker 1: in there. It's open right now. We had the opening,

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Speaker 1: it was great, tons of people came out. It's still there.

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Speaker 1: It'll be there in perpetuity, the Meat Eater store in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 1: So if you're in that region, go check that out.

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Speaker 1: Another thing is we got another We got another six

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Speaker 1: pack of Meat Eater episodes season thirteen coming out in

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Speaker 1: a few weeks on October twentieth, with no further ado.

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Speaker 1: My special friend Ronnie Bain is gonna tell us a

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Speaker 1: dog story.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: And Ronnie, if you want to set it up with

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Speaker 1: with a little bit of dog history about your dogs,

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Speaker 1: you were the first guy knew who got serious about dogs.

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Speaker 2: I mean like really serious that would.

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Speaker 1: Have gangs of them and be messing with them and

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Speaker 4: He was still, miraculously alive. Cracked ribs on one side

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Speaker 4: In fact, anytime I've watched the episode that you and

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Speaker 4: Turned out they got into some kind of a poison

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Speaker 4: So I've had some you know, and anybody's been in

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Speaker 4: But so I've had a pretty good stretch now without

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Speaker 3: North Dakota, and I had four dogs in my truck.

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Speaker 3: So I'm dry. I got a buff.

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Speaker 4: I get out of the house about five thirty in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ronnie's leaving West Michigan, Moskegon County, twin Town, Michigan

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Speaker 3: Right exactly.

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Speaker 4: He's a wire haired Visula. And I opened that kennel

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Speaker 1: Now rnrow gotta throw something in here because it's reminding

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Speaker 1: me of a Ronnie is one of the America's great

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Speaker 1: long distance drivers, among the among the best, well among

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Speaker 1: But in terms of like long haul, m let's just

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Speaker 4: Yeah, for not being a for not having a CDL

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Speaker 2: That motivated.

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Speaker 1: You just slip one slip one down the back of

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Speaker 3: Well, that's that's true. I drove most of the way

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Speaker 2: Against the window, well part of it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a eleven mile trip.

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Speaker 4: Your dog was hit on I ninety four in Michigan.

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Speaker 4: Bill's in Virginia at his kitchen table and he answers

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Speaker 4: it has your phone number. I've got it right here.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't want to hear from me. So he said, well, ma'am,

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Speaker 4: well that's impossible. It's just one of those tags you

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Speaker 4: And the minute that hit me, I started like hyperventilating

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Speaker 4: Her name is Kristin Clausen and she literally does volunteer

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Speaker 4: She keeps leashes and collars in her back seat where

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Speaker 4: She's telling me that she's already been to the clinic.

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Speaker 1: Like burying back where he came from.

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Speaker 1: This all is happening so fast that when you get

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Speaker 4: So the exit she got off I had to turn

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Speaker 4: it is, it is, so whoever's on the phone's got

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00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 4: something important going on too, And finally she hangs up

440
00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 4: and says, going to help you, and I said, yeah,

441
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 4: I'm the guy that had the dog hit on the

442
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 4: interstate today, and she goes, oh, come with me, and

443
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,199
Speaker 4: she brings me over to this waiting room five and

444
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 4: I said, and then a vet tech walks in with her,

445
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 4: and I said, could I just go see the dog

446
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 4: instead of going here? And she says, no, We'll bring

447
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 4: the dog in to you, and that I sit down,

448
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 4: and I'm like, that doesn't make any sense. I mean,

449
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 4: what are you going to bring the dog to me

450
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 4: on a on a gurney or you know, in a body.

451
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 4: Steve as God as my witness, she walked that dog

452
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 4: in on a leash and the dog's tail was wagon.

453
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 3: I sent you pictures. I don't know if it's phil

454
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: gonna be able to put.

455
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna have them in post round.

456
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: But if you give me ten seconds, I can pull

457
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: them up right now. Just give me give me a

458
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 1: sec here.

459
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll have up in a minute.

460
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,760
Speaker 1: Then you can extra adam, if you're in post, if

461
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,400
Speaker 1: you're post post. How am I trying to explain this film? No,

462
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 1: not that picture, Phil, I know I'm moving it.

463
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:53,680
Speaker 3: Okay.

464
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 4: That is what my dog looked like when I walked

465
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 4: into the vet and he came up to me. And

466
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: you know, it's it's not even a cut. It's actually

467
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: like an abrasion across his middle of his brow, above

468
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: his eye and on the left side of his eye.

469
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: And yeah, it looks like if you took an iron. Yeah,

470
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: it's like a branding iron and laid it across his forehead.

471
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 3: Yep. And I can't picture what did that. I can't

472
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 3: picture what did that.

473
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 4: And the weirdest part of it is like I'm still

474
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 4: looking at this dog and I'm crying because he's his

475
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 4: tail is waggoned. He's right between him sitting down, he's

476
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 4: right between my legs. And I asked the vetec, I

477
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 4: said how, and she says, I have no idea.

478
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 3: I said, but it it got out of my truck.

479
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 4: On the interstate and she said, I know, but I said, well,

480
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 4: how can this be? And she says, we don't know,

481
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: we don't know, and this this part is almost comical.

482
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: She said, we gave him a full exam, and if

483
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 4: anybody's ever had their dog in an exam when there's

484
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: a limb or a problem, or or they've been hit

485
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 4: or you know, fell off of something, they do a

486
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 4: real extensive leg pull, like they pull the front leg

487
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 4: and they do a complete range of motion on all

488
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 4: four legs. And apparently he didn't have any reaction to that.

489
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 4: And so I'm just beside myself. I'm sitting there with

490
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 4: tears in my eyes, pet in him. And she said,

491
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: the only thing we found that we'd like to address

492
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 4: right now.

493
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 3: Is he has an ear infection. I said, isn't that

494
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: the least of my problems?

495
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,400
Speaker 4: She said, she said, from what we can tell, that's

496
00:27:52,440 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 4: his only problem. And I'm just I don't even I felt.

497
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 4: I kept feeling like I was in a dream and

498
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 4: that I'm gonna wake up, and I'm like, I'm two

499
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 4: hours late for getting on the road when I wanted to,

500
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 4: because it this can't happen, Steve.

501
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: No, It's got to spill out of a moving truck

502
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: at seventy two miles an hour around a highway, get

503
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: rolled under another truck and know and you got.

504
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 2: All you got is a ear infection.

505
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 4: An ear infection, and a curling iron burn. It's it's

506
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: it's not. I have been through this one hundred times.

507
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 3: Maybe. I mean, you're good at thinking about things. The

508
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 3: only thing you ever have a semi go by is

509
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: so close it almost moves your vehicle.

510
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, dude, that's why I can't.

511
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: I don't understand those people that like to ride that

512
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 1: like to do those bike rides down the long, the

513
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: busy roads. Yeah, and every truck just rocks their world,

514
00:28:59,000 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: man like with that wind.

515
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, hate that feeling.

516
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: So I have to assume that I was in front

517
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 3: of the semi or somewhere.

518
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 4: Obviously I was in front of the semi, but I

519
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 4: don't know how far, whether it was a mile or yep,

520
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 4: I don't know.

521
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: Well, not a mile, Well, I don't know.

522
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: That's why we need to find right, someone in America

523
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: was dry. They're like someone in America's been telling their friends,

524
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: He'll never guess what. I watched a dog come flying

525
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: out of a truck and they think the dog's dead.

526
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: Right right?

527
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: And I even yesterday I called the non emergency number

528
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 4: for that county and I gave her the time and

529
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 4: date and she got She got back with me in

530
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 4: about ten minutes and she had no nine to one

531
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: one call.

532
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: Nobody can corded that dog coming out of the window.

533
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, you think, like just for I mean, I'm

534
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna say it, the real obvious for people. If you

535
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: fall from a seventy two mile an hour pick up,

536
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 1: when you hit the ground, you're.

537
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: Going seventy two miles an hour exactly.

538
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, just time?

539
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: Does it like denudes it?

540
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: Like denudes flesh?

541
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 2: Is that a word? I mean, it's a word, But

542
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: does that apply.

543
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I know what you're trying to say,

544
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: removes it? It would.

545
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 4: And so I'm still in a vet and I'm still

546
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 4: trying to get my wrap my arms around this, and

547
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 4: the vet comes out to me now and I asked

548
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 4: her the same question, how is this possible? And she says,

549
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 4: I don't know, but the name of the vet clinic

550
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: is two by two is a reference in the on

551
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 4: their logo as an arc And she just kind of

552
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 4: she says, I can't tell you, and I'm like this, this.

553
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 3: Is I mean, it's a it's a miracle.

554
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 4: He I'll get him out in a minute, and I'll

555
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 4: move my camera down to a chair. But all these

556
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 4: other things are in my head and I'm probably messing

557
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 4: this up because I'm kind of like reliving it.

558
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 3: So the vet says, i'd.

559
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 4: Like to take some more X rays and X rays

560
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 4: can also see if there's blood around organs.

561
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 3: And I don't know.

562
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 4: I think the X ray is head first because I

563
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: got charged for two X rays the first.

564
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 3: View in an additional view.

565
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 4: I've got the report here from two by two, so

566
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 4: I said, yes, please do it. And then she comes

567
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: back and she says, no broken ribs, nothing in the legs.

568
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 4: So I'm assuming the first was the head X ray

569
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 4: because of the head damage. No fracture in the skull,

570
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 4: no broken bones, no bleeding on the organs. Now, to

571
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 4: go back to that first dog that I brought to

572
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 4: a clinic by Richmond on X rays because they didn't

573
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 4: do an MRI. On X rays, they showed me the

574
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 4: blood around the heart, the blood around the liver, the

575
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 4: it obscures the X ray. Yeah, they can tell when

576
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 4: there's fluid inside of a dog's body. There's nothing inside

577
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 4: this dog's body, Steve. And so I I'm sitting there

578
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 4: with them, and they give me.

579
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: They give me they give me.

580
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 4: The ear drops, and they give me the instructions for

581
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 4: the ear drops, and they give me a They give

582
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 4: me carprofen for pain, and they give me tras a

583
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 4: dome for anxiety in case he gets anxious or starts

584
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 4: walking around or gets confused.

585
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: That's that's kind of like a not a pain killer,

586
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 3: something to calm.

587
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: A dog down, like a down, understand.

588
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 4: And I never ended up giving him any tradazone tres dome.

589
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 4: I did give him by prescription. The carprofen. I gave

590
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 4: him that for half a pill once twice a day.

591
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 4: I did that for about three days for pain. Because

592
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 4: the other analogy, she said, well, I know he appears

593
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 4: fine right now, but he's probably going to be like

594
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 4: a person falling off a ladder, getting back on the ladder,

595
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: and then getting out of bed in the morning and

596
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: be completely stiff, like he got hit by a truck.

597
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: Yep.

598
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 4: But so one of the other weird parts about this

599
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 4: story is had this not happened, and had this lady

600
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: Kristen not been on that road that day. There's two

601
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 4: other scenarios obviously, either God himself did this or there's

602
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 4: some I don't care God did it, somebody somebody did it.

603
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 4: But my mechanical thought was, this dog got caught up

604
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: in the suction of the semi truck and maybe flattened

605
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: out and spun. And could a vehicle straddle a dog

606
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 4: without hitting it?

607
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 3: I guess if the dog was flat on its side

608
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: and had.

609
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: To be flat, because your dog sixty five pounds, man,

610
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: some bitch is way higher than the wheel hub.

611
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he would have to be flat with.

612
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: His start way higher than the transfer cases and all

613
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: that stuff.

614
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

615
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 4: The rear end differential or a shock mount or the muffler,

616
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 4: you know, any of these things would have sliced them

617
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:21,399
Speaker 4: open or killed them.

618
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 3: And I'll show them to you a little bit.

619
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 4: There is not a mark on his body except a

620
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: little a little patch about the size of a quarter

621
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 4: on his rear elbow. So this dog slid on the

622
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 4: highway vacuumed up by a truck, I don't know. So

623
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: that's one of the things we're going to see. If

624
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: anybody was on I ninety four. It was June eighteenth,

625
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 4: a Thursday, southbound on nine ninety four. Roughly, I'm gonna

626
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 4: say anywhere from seven fifteen to seven point thirty in

627
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 4: the morning, if you saw a dog on the road,

628
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 4: or if you saw or if you were the person

629
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: that said I think I just ran over a deer,

630
00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 4: but I didn't feel anything.

631
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. Y, Hey, Ronnie, jump, Phil's gonna put

632
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:10,400
Speaker 1: those pictures.

633
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 2: Jump to like, yeah, jump to it real quick.

634
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 1: Jump to how like how the dog could have gotten

635
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: out right because he's in a top or in a

636
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: dog box.

637
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 3: Okay, if Phil can go to the picture on the inside.

638
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 2: We got the exterior right now, right there it is.

639
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 4: That's the inside of the truck. Tailgate is up, the

640
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 4: hatches up right now, that that dog kennel is.

641
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 1: I don't think it's Ronnie's truck because there'd be empty

642
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 1: shell casings and empty beer cans everywhere.

643
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 3: They're they're they're not in the pictures, trust me.

644
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: Mixed mixed gauges, you're right, many brands, many gauges and brands,

645
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 1: but just one kind of beer can.

646
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 3: So that as a fact, Steve's traveling with me. I

647
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: put them all in the door pocket to the truck

648
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: and it drives them crazy.

649
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 4: But I reenacted this this morning to because I didn't

650
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 4: take a picture when it happened. This is how the

651
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 4: kennel's mounted up there PERMANENTLYEP.

652
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 1: So he got out of the air and started roaming

653
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 1: around the truck and on.

654
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,800
Speaker 3: The in the front of the other kennel, there's about

655
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 3: four or you know, eight square feet of floor. That

656
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 3: cooler that you see was on that shelf.

657
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 4: That shelf is thirteen inches wide and that window is

658
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: a glass window with a screen, and that morning I

659
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 4: slid that window open. It wasn't going to be hot,

660
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 4: but it gets hot. Everything's been hot lately, so I

661
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: wanted full ventilation for the dogs, YEP, and so that

662
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: that glass window was opened. By design, the screen was

663
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 4: in place, but it's just a little pop in screen.

664
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: When I opened the tailgate, when I pulled over quick,

665
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 4: that's what I saw. I saw that cooler sitting there,

666
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,759
Speaker 4: and there's another toolbox there that had my my dog

667
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 4: first aid kit that was all up on that shelf.

668
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 4: I'm surmising that because I didn't double check that that latch,

669
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 4: probably he could have been out all the way from

670
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 4: twin lake, just sitting on the bottom, you know, kind

671
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 4: of antsy, like, you know, why am why am I?

672
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 3: Why am I? Why aren't they in a kennel?

673
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, it's roaming around back there.

674
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 4: He's roaming around the other two dogs below are probably like, hey,

675
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 4: how'd you get out?

676
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: You know? You know?

677
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: And the son of a bitch, how'd.

678
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 3: You do that? Lets us out on a trip?

679
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 4: And I'm surmising that when I changed lanes or got

680
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 4: back on the highway, that that cooler and that toolbox

681
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 4: fell onto the space where he was.

682
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he jumped back up onto that.

683
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 4: Shelf, but the door wasn't open, and possibly he just

684
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: dogs will lean or sit or try to prop themselves

685
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: up on something to sit down. And I surmise that

686
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 4: he leaned on that screen and the screen gave out.

687
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 4: And that other picture again, I want people to know

688
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 4: I did this this morning, because I didn't do it

689
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: on the highway.

690
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: Ye that is that is exactly how that screen looked.

691
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 4: When I opened the tailgate and then looked at the screen,

692
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 4: and my heart felt down to my knees in my feet,

693
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 4: and all I could think about was this.

694
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 3: You know, you can you picture it? You know the

695
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: worst thoughts of anything. Just you've seen roadkills, deer kills, dogs.

696
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: Look like you know what, Ronnie? What Ronnie like in

697
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: this to me? He says his daughter. This whole thing,

698
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: he says, his daughter felt like, uh, you know what

699
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: a wonderful It's a wonderful life. When Jimmy Stewart's there

700
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: fixing to jump off that jump off the bridge.

701
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: And they send Clarence and that Clarence heads.

702
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: Down there, Ronnie thinks it was Clarence.

703
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: Clarence like creature guided his dog to the ground and

704
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 1: guided his dog to that woman's hands.

705
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 4: Well, if you can explain how a dog doesn't get

706
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 4: road rash at seventy two miles an hour, I'll take

707
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 4: another explanation.

708
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: You're open for suggestions.

709
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 3: I'm wide open, Steve. I'm hoping that three people calling

710
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 3: and says, no, it happened to me too.

711
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: It's all the time, and it's incredible.

712
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:47,719
Speaker 3: It so.

713
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 4: And then there's two other scenarios that could have played out,

714
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: which would have been in this case, now that he's alive, that.

715
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: Could have been worse.

716
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: Because these are all dogs that are you to traveling.

717
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 4: I won't stop and let the dogs out or check

718
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: on him until I need to tank a gas. From Michigan,

719
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 4: I would get all the way to Madison, Wisconsin. I

720
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 4: do this route a lot, and somewhere around Madison, I

721
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: would have stopped, fueled up and taken all the dogs out,

722
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 4: and I would have opened that kennel.

723
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 3: I would have opened that door, and I would have

724
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 3: had six hours.

725
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, of what the hell?

726
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 3: What the hell?

727
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 4: I don't even know if I could have drove back.

728
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 4: The other scenario is I could have looked in my

729
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 4: side view mirror to change lanes. I could have witnessed

730
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 4: him fallout, and I probably would have crashed. I mean,

731
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 4: what would you do if you saw your dog.

732
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: Fall out of your car on a highway while you

733
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 3: were driving. I don't think you could.

734
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: I'd think to myself, Man, my kids are gonna be

735
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: worked up about this.

736
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and I thought about that too, about this

737
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 4: is the truth. I thought about how I'm not a

738
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 4: guy who posts. You know, I've looked out of all

739
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 4: those dogs I've had, and those are dogs that I've

740
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 4: kept for years at a time, not dogs that I've

741
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 4: had for a year and didn't work out, or or

742
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: gave to somebody who needed a dog, and I had

743
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 4: extra pupps dogs that I've had and hunted. I've never

744
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 4: put a post up on Facebook, and I don't say

745
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 4: anything to people do because they're good friends of mine

746
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 4: to do it. I never post anything about one of

747
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 4: my dogs dying. People find out it either through my

748
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 4: podcast or when I talked to him at peasant Fest,

749
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 4: you know, like, Hey, how's Bravo and I saw he

750
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 4: passed away last year. I I just that's that's just

751
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,440
Speaker 4: something that's just part of me, and it's something you

752
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 4: sign up for when you when you get a dog,

753
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,880
Speaker 4: and you that's your that's.

754
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: Your thing, and that's how I handle it.

755
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 4: So I fully when I was driving to that vet,

756
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: I had I had no intention on telling anybody about

757
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 4: this except up my friends on the hunting trip and

758
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 4: the people I know there that I got the dog from, actually,

759
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: and I would have probably told my listeners at.

760
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 3: Some point or something. I don't know. I don't know

761
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 3: how I would have handled it.

762
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 2: But Ronnie's referring to the Hunting Dog podcast, Yes.

763
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,879
Speaker 3: Which thanks to you well, we started on the same

764
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 3: day in January twenty fifteen. We did.

765
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 4: We did that podcast at the kitchen table in Texas.

766
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 4: And when I said, you mean you can do this

767
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 4: in the kitchen, I went home.

768
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: I went home and bought recording equipment.

769
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: And heay, I just got you know what's funny, man,

770
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: I just got to I drew a crane tag here

771
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: and I just got my second crane yesterday morning. You

772
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: allowed two cranes when you draw a crain tag here.

773
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: We still don't have it in Michigan, Steve, that's a.

774
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: Great one of the great travesties. We'll get we'll get

775
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: it sorted out.

776
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 3: So yeah, I started that just to to stories about

777
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 3: hunting trips and dogs and blah blah blah. And it's turning.

778
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: I'm still doing it to this day. But I'll get

779
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 4: I'm gonna put this camera down. Oh is there a no,

780
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: that's the only two pictures that are important.

781
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see.

782
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: Let's see the dog. Yeah, let's see the dog, and

783
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: we'll say goodbye. We'll reissue a call for anyone that

784
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: can come in and find if you heard a story

785
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: where like you heard a story from someone that told

786
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: a story about watching a dog come out of a truck,

787
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: or someone thinks they hit and kill the dog and

788
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: then they come home and they're all sad about hitting

789
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: and killing the dog anything like that.

790
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 2: Send them our way or send him around his way.

791
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: Okay, can you see him.

792
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 1: Dog Lazarus. It's the Lazarus dog. His other dogs are

793
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: pissed now.

794
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're all off. So his uh, his scar is

795
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: just above gone. He's starting to grow hair over his eyebrow.

796
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 2: That's a good look at the dog man that.

797
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 3: There is not a mark on his didn't break a nail,

798
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: didn't chip a tooth.

799
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 2: He's huh and his person.

800
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 4: And four days later, I, you know, I certainly wanted

801
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 4: to give him a break, and I fully expected, Honestly,

802
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 4: I just assumed there'd be some damage to his head

803
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 4: and if he would have, he was curled up in

804
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 4: front of my seat for you know, nineteen hours of

805
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 4: more driving. Let them out and I slept in a

806
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,959
Speaker 4: couple of rest areas, but for a nap. I didn't

807
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 4: do the ice trick this time, Steve, but you're right,

808
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:56,919
Speaker 4: that is a trick of mine.

809
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: And I gave him a few days.

810
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 4: But when I was at the vet and they gave

811
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 4: me a leash, I walked into my truck and he

812
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 4: jumped up into the front seat.

813
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:08,879
Speaker 3: Of my truck.

814
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: He's done at the bag.

815
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: Well, I didn't want to get PTSD. I mean, how

816
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 3: would you like to be put back in that kettle.

817
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: Man?

818
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 4: How you doing this twice? I've been down this road

819
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: and honestly, uh so during the week that's he he

820
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: went right back into that truck and right back in.

821
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: You know, I triple checked the latches and I'm actually

822
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 4: gonna install on the lower kennels. I'm going to install

823
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 4: some extra secondary hatch because this kennel has secondary latches.

824
00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 4: And I want everybody who's saying under their breath, it's

825
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 4: your fault, Ronnie, they're one hundred percent right. I should

826
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 4: have double checked that door and hit the appropriate extra latch,

827
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 4: and I wouldn't be on this store the show today

828
00:45:59,120 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 4: with you.

829
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 3: But it's gonna be one of the great all time

830
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 3: stories of a dog living.

831
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 4: Through something that it's impossible, not a other than those

832
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 4: those cuts on or those abrasions on his forehead.

833
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 3: I don't know, if you didn't know me, Steve, would

834
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: you believe this story?

835
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: No, I would say if I didn't know you, I'd say,

836
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: I think the dog got out somewhere else, like at

837
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: the rest stop.

838
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 4: Or I don't know what telling he said and something

839
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 4: look like that, and then the story was like no,

840
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 4: I saw it, And then somebody else told the story,

841
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,200
Speaker 4: and some pretty soon the story is no, I saw

842
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 4: the dog jump out of a truck.

843
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: No, I'll tell people Ronnie's Ronnie is quicker to tell

844
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: a story about himself looking bad. He's about himself look good.

845
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: Matter of fact, Ronnie don't tell stories where Ronnie looks good.

846
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: Ronnie only tells stories when Ronnie looks like an ass.

847
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 3: You said that, Steve on the episode that we did

848
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 3: on the Mountain Grouse. You said, he's he's the most

849
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 3: self deprecating buddy.

850
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, and that narration, but yeah, he only

851
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: likes stories where he looks like an idiots.

852
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 3: Well, they're funnier, it's funnier.

853
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 1: Well listen, man, I'm glad the dog's live. I'm glad

854
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: you're live and happy, Steve.

855
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 3: I want to do I want to in case I

856
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 3: missed anything. I want to thank Kristin Klausen.

857
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: Yep, that's the dog Savior.

858
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 3: That's the dog Savior.

859
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 4: She volunteers with Animal Aid of Southwest Michigan, and the

860
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 4: clinic was two by two Animal clinic in barry In Springs, and.

861
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. Oh I guess, uh yeah, no kidding.

862
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 4: One fact I forgot to tell you is when she

863
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 4: pulled up to the vet clinic, they were aware that

864
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 4: she was coming, and they rolled a gurney out to

865
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: her car. She opened the door and walked the dog

866
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 4: out onto the sidewalk. So I've been told to play

867
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:05,959
Speaker 4: the lottery. I've been told to start going back to church.

868
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 4: I've been told to quit drinking, and I've been told

869
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 4: to quit smoking. I haven't done any of those things yet.

870
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: But yeah, you're pretty good the way you are. Man.

871
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: We'll keep you the way you are, all right.

872
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, I ninety four June or September eighteenth, somewhere

873
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 3: around seven point fifteen in the morning, southbound YE ninety four,

874
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 3: about maybe thirteen fourteen miles north of the Indiana Line.

875
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: Get a hold of us. You can go to the

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00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 1: meat Eater at the Metater podcast subject line Ronnie's Dog.

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Speaker 1: You can get a hold of Ronnie if you're on

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Speaker 1: YouTube going to the comment section say hey I saw

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Speaker 1: that dog.

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Speaker 2: Get hit.

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Speaker 1: Find Ronnie at the Hunting Dog podcast.

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Speaker 2: Or on a highway near you. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Ronnie love you

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Speaker 3: Thank you, I love you too, Steve, thank you, Body,