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Speaker 1: Welcome to OT teen number ten from the same Thomas

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Speaker 1: Boys Park. My name is Mike beef Dwood once again

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Speaker 1: by Amy Wells. Well night, Hello Amy and the great

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Speaker 1: Jim Wyatt from Titans Online dot Com. Hello Mike and Amy.

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Speaker 1: It is good to have you with us. Jim Wyatt

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Speaker 1: glad to be on all right. So lights to cover,

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Speaker 1: lots of football to cover. Let's start with the four

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Speaker 1: draft picks have numbers? Do you know the number? People

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Speaker 1: like to know the numbers, right, Yes, Luke Falk eleven,

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Speaker 1: Dane Crookshank twenty nine, Rashaun Evans fifty four, Harold Landry

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Speaker 1: fifty eight. Sounds good to me, all right, So we've

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Speaker 1: gotten that out of them. People like to know that.

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Speaker 1: How Fani Muhamma did not keep the twenty nine long No,

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Speaker 1: he did not. Yea, he switched from twenty eight last

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Speaker 1: year twenty nine and now Dane has got it is

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Speaker 1: as Calfani is on the market no longer with us.

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Speaker 1: Calfani Muhammad one of three players cut on Monday, including

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Speaker 1: Alex Tanney, the quarterback who was number eleven, and also

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Speaker 1: Johnny Maxie, a defensive lineman who was on the team

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Speaker 1: for a very short time in December. Resigned in the

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Speaker 1: off season but waived on Monday. So those are some changes.

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Speaker 1: Two new players, two veteran players joined the roster. Jamil

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Speaker 1: President who's a former Auburn Tiger. He's an outside linebacker,

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Speaker 1: played last year with Houston. It's a big outside linebacker

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Speaker 1: kind of that. Derek Morgan six four two seventy two

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Speaker 1: much yet, but I expect him to come in a

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Speaker 1: position that certainly needs depth and get a chance to

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Speaker 1: contribute on special teams, trying to make this team as

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Speaker 1: as an outside backer. Also at the safety position, a

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Speaker 1: veteran Kendrick Lewis who did a tryout last week during

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Speaker 1: the Terry Minicamp. He has been signed and Denzel Johnson

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Speaker 1: is gone, so he provides some real experience. This will

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Speaker 1: be his eighth year out of Old miss It's a

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Speaker 1: good opportunity to get a little bit more of a

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Speaker 1: veteran presence on this team and in that room. Say

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Speaker 1: he's played for Dean Peace too, played for Dean Peace

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Speaker 1: and played with Mike Vrabel. Isn't that a weird dynamic

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Speaker 1: in Kansas City? In the city in twenty ten, which

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Speaker 1: is crazy. That shows you how young our coaches and

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Speaker 1: also shows you how long he's been in the league.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy? That is crazy. I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have an idea until somebody mentioned it to

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Speaker 1: me a little bit earlier. What we're out here on

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Speaker 1: the practice field watching the the soldiers here from Fort

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Speaker 1: Campbell going through drills. And that's a good piece of trivia.

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Speaker 1: All right, So the soldiers going through drills from Fort Campbell?

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Speaker 1: How did they look in the drills? How would you

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Speaker 1: assess their performance? I don't think anyone is going to

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Speaker 1: make the roster, Okay, it's kind of an on a

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Speaker 1: trial basis, But these guys certainly look like they could

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Speaker 1: do a great job defending our country, which is the

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Speaker 1: most important thing. And John Robinson said himself, they'll catch

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Speaker 1: the football, take care of the football, and they'll let

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Speaker 1: these men and women protect our country, which they do

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Speaker 1: so well, and that's the toughest job of all. I

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Speaker 1: trust them with my safety and livelihood way more than

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Speaker 1: I trust them to score a touchdown. Okay, well that's fair.

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Speaker 1: Both of you very diplomatic. Well, you know you don't

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Speaker 1: want to anger the military. Speaking of kickoffs, the special

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Speaker 1: meeting going on in New York, the Players Safety Meeting,

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Speaker 1: some things apparently going to be proposed about the kickoff

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Speaker 1: because Rich McKay from the Competition Committee said there were

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Speaker 1: seventy one total concussions in the last three seasons on kickoffs,

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Speaker 1: at least one third of those involved the wedge. Judy

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Speaker 1: Batista tweeting that out, and so they're talking about eliminating

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Speaker 1: the two man wedge and the running start for the

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Speaker 1: Now they will have to begin. If this is a

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Speaker 1: people would run side by side on kickoffs and sort

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Speaker 1: of eliminate a variety of the collisions. Aby Wells, you

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Speaker 1: have a furrowed brow. What is your reaction to these

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Speaker 1: proposed changes to the kickoffs. By the way, it would

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to me, just from a numbers and

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Speaker 1: player safety. Uh. The only bad thing is, you know,

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Speaker 1: in these situations. Obviously, you still we're gonna cover punch.

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Speaker 1: You have guys who are valuable as gunners and doing

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Speaker 1: things in other aspects. But player safety, more and more

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Speaker 1: of the people the NFL. And you know, we've watched

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Speaker 1: we've seen it in other leagues. I wonder if it's

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Speaker 1: coming one day. By eliminating the running start for the kickoff, team,

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Speaker 1: five yards. Would that not be a disadvantage? Well, it

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Speaker 1: the running start, but they're obviously still gonna be running

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Speaker 1: full speed. They just won't have the head start. Huh.

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Speaker 1: But I think what you're gonna see is you're still

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Speaker 1: aren't we putting a band aid on something that needs surgery?

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Speaker 1: Mark Murphy from the Green Bay Packers said it. He said,

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Speaker 1: the kickoff is on a short leash, why not go ahead.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to watch sixty percent touchbacks. I'm not

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Speaker 1: interested in that. That's boring. That's like watching the intentional

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Speaker 1: you know, kind of one of those pooch kicks where

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Speaker 1: there and the cover's team go in and make a play.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that can be a big game changer. Nothing

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Speaker 1: more exciting it, you know, probably than returning a kick

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Speaker 1: I mean, why waste the time lining up? Why not

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Speaker 1: be done with it. Let's just say because here's the

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Speaker 1: So they tell us there were seventy one can concussions

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Speaker 1: that's like that comes as a huge shocker. I'm stunned

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Speaker 1: by almost the fake surprise. Anybody who's ever covered a

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Speaker 1: have it happen from you know, angles where you don't

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Speaker 1: But you're if you're talking about player safety, which is

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Speaker 1: an actual kickoff return, that's what they're setting up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then then why not just cut out the middleman, pull

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Speaker 1: while I don't want to see it, at the same time,

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Speaker 1: ahead and do it. Well, here's the thing. The two

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Speaker 1: is player safety obviously sure they should be, and speeding

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Speaker 1: up the game exactly tata I found one. Well, it'll

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Speaker 1: make the game go faster, we can get to the

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Speaker 1: good stuff anyway. How many people go to the bathroom

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Speaker 1: that look like, though, Well, there's some talk about do

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Speaker 1: a make it take it, make it take it exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a mate to convert, it's to keep

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Speaker 1: the ball, you've got to make it. But just like

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Speaker 1: it take it. Huh, that's interesting. Well, the first guy

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Speaker 1: And at the time people thought it was just whacky. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like all the amendments that we're putting on. Yeah. Either

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Speaker 1: I'm a person that's gonna do it or not do it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's coming one day. I hate to I mean, in

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Speaker 1: some ways I hate to see the kickoff, you know,

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Speaker 1: Derek Henry was crazy. The craziest one you've seen in

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Speaker 1: five years, anything close, I would say I put it

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Speaker 1: in the top three. It was absolutely bananas. There was

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Speaker 1: a stop at Fort Campbell last year with Marcus Mariota,

431
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: the head coach was there, the general manager was there,

432
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Speaker 1: and there were people that were just wrapped around the

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Speaker 1: entire area someone ended up pulling the fire alarm. We

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Speaker 1: had to leave early. So then the next place we

435
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Speaker 1: went was crazy. That was bananas. The stop in Florence,

436
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,240
Speaker 1: Alabama was it was the craziest academy stop I've ever

437
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 1: seen ever. It was there were people that were threaded

438
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Speaker 1: through every aisle, going all the way from the front

439
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: to the back of the store, and they were just

440
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,879
Speaker 1: happy to be there. He walked through and the place

441
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 1: erupted like Michael Jordan just walked through it. It was crazy.

442
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 1: There no place to stand, you couldn't get anywhere. We

443
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 1: all just like picked a spot and hung out for

444
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: an hour. And if I heard roll tid one time,

445
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: I heard it a thousand times because everybody wanted to

446
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: say roll tied to him as they got an autograph

447
00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,719
Speaker 1: or got a picture taken with him. He signed you know,

448
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 1: sports illustrators and helmets and jerseys and a big wooden

449
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: a signed the back of a baby and had something happened,

450
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: and had something happened. I don't know if I've ever

451
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Speaker 1: seen Amy's been a lot more caravan stops than I have,

452
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Speaker 1: But I had a one over zealous fan jumped on

453
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Speaker 1: his lap to get a picture and She also got

454
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Speaker 1: a smooth shout of it, you know when she kissed

455
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Speaker 1: him on the cheek and neck and uh, Derek handled

456
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: it pretty well. But she was pretty fired up to

457
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: see Derrick Henry. She was gonna get every second out

458
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Speaker 1: of that. She was so excited. But it's cool to

459
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Speaker 1: see people that fired up it up. But I imagine,

460
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, Josh Klein was there, one of his offensive lineman.

461
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: He probably had to hear by it why he wasn't

462
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,919
Speaker 1: protecting him any better than he was, but had Wesley

463
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Speaker 1: Woodrow sitting next to him, kind of kind of egging

464
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Speaker 1: it on. Yeah, it's good stuff in terms of fan

465
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Speaker 1: recognition right now, Marcus Mariota Derek Henry both Heisman Trophy winners.

466
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Speaker 1: They are probably the two most recognizable guys, the two

467
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Speaker 1: players that people get most excited about since who who

468
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Speaker 1: would you say, Since I mean Steve mcnery and Eddie

469
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: George that one two punch at quarterback running back and

470
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 1: we've had some stars here. I mean, Vince Young was

471
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Speaker 1: a recognizable guy. But who'd you pair with them during

472
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: that stretch? Linda White obviously, Chris Johnson. You know who

473
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Speaker 1: Vince Young and Chris Johnson. But I don't know if

474
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Speaker 1: they still had the same star power that these two

475
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Speaker 1: guys have. You know, now they've got to go out

476
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Speaker 1: and do the things that Steve mcner and Eddie George did,

477
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: which could take it to a whole other level, not

478
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Speaker 1: to get this team into AFC Championship games and get

479
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Speaker 1: him into Super Bowls. The thing about the two of

480
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 1: them is they're still young enough to where they're pulling

481
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Speaker 1: in the college crowds. You know, people still remember Marcus

482
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: Mariota winning the Heisman, that run that he's a duck.

483
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, They still obviously remember Derrick Henry and his

484
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: Heisman campaign and how amazing Alabama is, you know, And

485
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: so we're bringing those people in with Marcus. We've got

486
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: people in different states that go bananas over him. So

487
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 1: it's just such a far reaching fan base right now,

488
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 1: because you're getting the college and the professionals, like shout

489
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: out to our California Titans fans who are incredibly tight

490
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: and I know they listened to the OTP and we

491
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 1: appreciate it. They love Marcus Mariota, oh yeah, because he's

492
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Speaker 1: their Pac twelve guy. And so that that West Coast pact.

493
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: There's so many different tie ins with Marcus. Yeah, everybody

494
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: in Hawaii that I know listens and it's crazy. Other countries. Yeah,

495
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,919
Speaker 1: it is amazing. And part of it is because of

496
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: where he came from and with a big star that

497
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: he was in college. But part of it is just

498
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: because of the kind of guy he is and how

499
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: people see how genuine he is, how how the way

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00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: he treats people. He's just an easy guy to root for.

501
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: I would be interested to know if that stop compares.

502
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: I still consider the biggest caravan stopped two thousand at

503
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Speaker 1: the Women's Basketball Hall of Fame in Knoxville. We had

504
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: Steve McNair and Javine Curse. In two thousand and Javine

505
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 1: Curse was through the route. I mean, he was the

506
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: freak and it was just so fantastic. When we did

507
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: the jersey unveiling a couple of weeks ago, the people

508
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: that saw Javon Curse there still went nuts. He still

509
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: has that kind of impact. And that stop was so

510
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 1: crazy because we were there over three hours, and then

511
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: we went downtown, well actually a little off downtown by

512
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Speaker 1: the river to eat, and we were really excited. Javine

513
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: was with as Steve McNair went back home. He was

514
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: he had been with us, Javan was replacing him, and

515
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Speaker 1: so Javin went to dinner with us. We're just getting

516
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: salads or something, we're just starting the meal, and in

517
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: walks T Martin. Well. T Martin's the national champion winning

518
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: quarterback at the University of Tennessee and T Martin had

519
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 1: played against javon Curse that year, and it's like, wow,

520
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: T Martin is here. How this is unbelievable. So he

521
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: walks in and he speaks to Javan, and Javin very

522
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: politely says, you know, I think I'm going to leave

523
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Speaker 1: with T Martin. We're going to go do something. And

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Speaker 1: so these two guys are walking out and I don't

525
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: even know if they got approached because people were so

526
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: stunned to see this UT celebrity and this NFL celebrity

527
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: and a vall and a Gator together and it was

528
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: just crazy. But that was a We got done with

529
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: dinner that night about eleven thirty. You couldn't get Peyton

530
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: Manning to show up off of that. He was already going.

531
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: He was doing the Colts Caravan all right, for star

532
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: power for sure. All right, let's talk a little draft here.

533
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: Mock drafts turned out to be pretty close. Most of

534
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people had Rashaun Evans, you know, people

535
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: who had Lashawn, Rashaun Evans and Harold Landry going the Titans,

536
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: both of them because said they got it right. No,

537
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: Landry obviously went a lot later than people thought. But

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00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,719
Speaker 1: if you had, if you had a Harold Landry going

539
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: to the Titans, technically you gotta you know, you rulling

540
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: the money. That's cheating. No, no, no, I'm not giving

541
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 1: you that. Everybody gets so possessive and crazy over their

542
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: mock drafts. If you had Harold Landry going to the

543
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: Titans in the first round, you do not win. I

544
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: don't count that. What about the people who had the

545
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: Titans picking guards and tight ends. Yeah, that's not a

546
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 1: good look, and it's not a good look. But people

547
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: had like Sam Hubbard going to the Titans at twenty

548
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: five and he ends up going what's seventy eight? Yeah,

549
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: those are the ones where you have guys mocked and

550
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: then they go not only they don't go to your team,

551
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: but they go a couple of days later. The one

552
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: that got me that I thought might go there might

553
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 1: have been Isaiah Win from Georgia who went the next

554
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: pick to New England, because he can also play tackle

555
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 1: and he is a talented guy. He'll be a good

556
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: player for the Patriots. But you know Daniels and rag

557
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: Now and some of the other guys who ended up

558
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: going I just didn't see that. Because the Titans have

559
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: signed four guards in this offseason. Yeah, I didn't either.

560
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm gonna give one guy credit for

561
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: a mock, it's Mike Mayott, because he does one mock

562
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 1: each year. He did one, you know, the day of

563
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: and he had the Titans taken Rashaun Evans, so he

564
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: didn't jump around like some of the other people who

565
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: covered their bases about picking multiple guys. Now, he didn't

566
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 1: go at twenty fives. I guess no one technically guy right,

567
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: he goes twenty two goes earlier. Titans have still never

568
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: picked twenty fifth. WHOA, you're right, fifty nine drafts, they've

569
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: still never picked twenty fifth. They were scheduled to do so,

570
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: but they did not do so. How surprised were the

571
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: two of you after the weekend that John Robinson traded

572
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: up three times? I was. I was surprised when he

573
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: did it the last time. The first two, Yeah, the

574
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: first two didn't really surprise me. That felt I was

575
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: convinced he was trading up. In the first round, we

576
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: left the media area to go down to the field

577
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: to meet the pick seven or eight picks before twenty five.

578
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 1: Wow you're good. Well, because we were just like, oh,

579
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling. So Ashley Farrell and I

580
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: kind of looked at each other and we're like, maybe

581
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: we should head down. So we start walking down to

582
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 1: the field. The second that we get to a place

583
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: where we can sit and wait, I look up at

584
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: the big screens and I was like, let's Brian rackpoh,

585
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: I bet you John just traded And sure enough he had,

586
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: so we we intuited that one. But the less one

587
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 1: surprised me. If somebody would would have told me that

588
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 1: he would have walked away with only four picks, I

589
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: would have been I would say it came as a

590
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 1: surprise to me, but also a huge surprise. You got

591
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: Evans and Landry both. I mean it's worth it. I

592
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: think the way this roster is built, it didn't necessary

593
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 1: knee six seven picks, didn't need guys battling for the

594
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: back end of the roster spots and need guys that

595
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: could come in and contribute immediately, and that's get An

596
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: Evis and Landry. I don't know that I'm surprised now

597
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 1: that I think about it, that he traded up three

598
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: times based on the fact that I just think John

599
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: Robinson is going to do whatever he needs to do

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00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: to be successful, and that's trading down, trading up, trading

601
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: the first pick. I mean, I don't I don't think

602
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: he cares. He's made thirteen trades now since he's been

603
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 1: the general manager. He's he's looking to get better any

604
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: way that he can do it, and he's gonna use

605
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: all the resources and all the tools. He's not like

606
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: the basketball coach who will only play man defense. He'll

607
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: play man, he'll play zone, he'll press. He doesn't care,

608
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: just win. Yeah. I think he gets bored sometimes too.

609
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: It's like a trade. Yeah, we've been sitting around here

610
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: long enough. He just gets bored. I like that. Another

611
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: addition to the Titans, Dave McGinnis is back on Titans Radio.

612
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: Is our game day analyst, but also part of what

613
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 1: we do here. As a matter of fact, last week,

614
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 1: coach Mac did a brunch for season ticket members. On

615
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: the day of the draft, he did draft coverage with us.

616
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: He certainly is going to be part of the podcast, Amy.

617
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: I would imagine he'll be doing things with you for

618
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: video content. I'm sure he'll end up on our television programming.

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Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis is a wealth of knowledge and can really

620
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: help us in so many different ways. You're exciting to

621
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: have him back. Oh, absolutely, I'm I'm just so excited

622
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: that he's back. Kind of sounds like the relative that

623
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: won't leave the house with all the things that we're

624
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: gonna have him on, But gosh, I mean, he is

625
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: just such an amazing resource for us. He's absolutely hilarious

626
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 1: and one of the most knowledgeable people in terms of

627
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 1: football and every aspect of this business in this game.

628
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: I'm just tickled to have him back. And Coach Max

629
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: sits there and helps me a lot throughout the year

630
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: kind of learn. I watch film with Coach Mack, which

631
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: is legitimately the most stressful thing that I do every

632
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: single week because he yells a lot. Coach Mac does

633
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: not hold back when we are watching film. He goes

634
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: in and he'll teach you something and if you don't

635
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 1: remember it, or you don't identify it. From week to week,

636
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,479
Speaker 1: he's yelling at me. Oh my gosh, I get yelled

637
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: at for everything and not using the little clicker right.

638
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: I get yelled at if I don't remember a coverage

639
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 1: that we've talked about from a previous week. It is

640
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Speaker 1: serious business. A lot of times if we stay late,

641
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: we'll go out to dinner afterwards because I'm like exhausted.

642
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: It's like, you can't drive home yet, Let's go get

643
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: something to eat, or feels bad for yelling at just

644
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: so he feels like I haven't cried yet. But it

645
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 1: gets really intense. I mean, it is a way to learn.

646
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 1: My ears are smoking because my brain has just been

647
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 1: turning for a couple hours. It's a great guy. I mean,

648
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: he's you know, certainly well liked here, as you mentioned,

649
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: well liked across the league. You know, not only with fans,

650
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: but they've got, you know, people in the media that

651
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: have dealt with him in the past. You know, he's

652
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: a great resource to have around the building. Anybody was

653
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: in the building when he made that pep talk, I

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00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: guess before the Chiefs playoff game in Kansas, ce remembers

655
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Speaker 1: that that's still I still hear about that from people

656
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Speaker 1: on Twitter who are there that night. That was pretty amazing. Yes,

657
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: it was, Yes, it was. Well. I had a chance

658
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Speaker 1: to talk with coach Mac about the draft, and as

659
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Speaker 1: we start this, I've asked him about the things that

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Speaker 1: went on through the three days that surprised him, and

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Speaker 1: he reminded me about some of the topics and some

662
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Speaker 1: of the questions we laid out before the draft started.

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Speaker 1: You asked about the number of quarterbacks that would be

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Speaker 1: taken in the first round. We both said five. That's

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Speaker 1: exactly what was taken. And we knew that the number

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks would move people down in the draft. And

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00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: as soon as the Jets took Baker Mayfield, the whole

668
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: draft process started flipping. It really did, because most people

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00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 1: had Sam Darnold pointed there and then as you could

670
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Speaker 1: see the way, and then of course clearly once they

671
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: Cleveland came in there and they went past Bradley Chubb

672
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Speaker 1: and took Denzel Ward, then that even caused more movement

673
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Speaker 1: in that first round. That's the one thing I saw.

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Speaker 1: The number of receivers that did not go in the

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Speaker 1: first round is something that we both thought might happen.

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Speaker 1: You know I made a statement earlier on, not because

677
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: I know everything, but just looking at the players that

678
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 1: there would be more running backs taken in the first

679
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: round than there world wide. Receivers looked at that, and

680
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: then the number of quality offensive linemen that went later

681
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Speaker 1: on in the rounds, and we talked about there being

682
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Speaker 1: quality at all positions from round two through round six,

683
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Speaker 1: and there were you saw some real contributing players that

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Speaker 1: were taken there. But I felt like the meat of

685
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Speaker 1: this draft was in those part of the rounds. There

686
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Speaker 1: were several elite players. There wasn't There weren't thirty two

687
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Speaker 1: elite players, and so that always makes for a very

688
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: interesting draft. Intel is such a big thing for everybody

689
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: involved with the draft, including those of us who follow it.

690
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: You have incredible intel because of your connections. And when

691
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: the Titans drafted Arizona safety Dane Crookshank, you turn to

692
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 1: somebody you know well to get intel on this player.

693
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: And it's somebody we know well too, Chuck Cecil, a

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Speaker 1: former Arizona safety who's back with that program. Yeah. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: As soon as they draft him, you and I were

696
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: sitting together and I said, I'm gonna make this phone

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Speaker 1: call Chuck is their senior defensive analyst down there. He

698
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: worked for Rich Rodriguez last year. He's on Kevin Sumlin's

699
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: staff this year. And so what I did was just

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Speaker 1: call him immediately. I said, Mike, let's talk to Chuck.

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Speaker 1: And of course Chuck got right back to us. He

702
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: really likes this player a lot. The first question I

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00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: asked him, I said, Chuck, if you were coaching the

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Speaker 1: secondary in the league, you know, which he did for

705
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: fifteen years, would you want this player? And he said

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Speaker 1: a lutely, he said it's a great pick. He said,

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Speaker 1: it's a great It would have been a great pick

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Speaker 1: even a couple of rounds. Before that, he talked about

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Speaker 1: the kids, the physical nature, he's a tremendous athlete. And

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Speaker 1: the one thing he said to me, he said, coach Mike,

711
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Speaker 1: the kid wants to be coached and he wants to

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Speaker 1: be a good player. And so I mean as soon,

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Speaker 1: I mean, who better to reach out for than somebody

714
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Speaker 1: that was right there about a defensive back at Arizona

715
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Speaker 1: than their hall of famer, a college football Hall of

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Speaker 1: Famer and all Pro safety in this league, Chuck Cecil.

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Speaker 1: That's good intel, no doubt, all right, I want you

718
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 1: to give me the NFL mindset on something. The Titans

719
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: have Marcus Mariot at quarterback. They signed Blaine Gabbert to

720
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Speaker 1: back him up. They have Tyler Ferguson who was in

721
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Speaker 1: camp with him last year. Why draft Luke Falk in

722
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Speaker 1: the sixth round? What is the NFL mindset behind making

723
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Speaker 1: a pick of a quarterback late in the draft when

724
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Speaker 1: you already have four on the roster. Well, Luke Falk

725
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: was a player that that everybody in this draft that

726
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: did quarterbacks that looked at thought really had a huge

727
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: upside to him. This guy is a very accurate guy.

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00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: This guy is a field general. This guy can and

729
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 1: I know you know he was drafted one ninety nine.

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00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: Of course, people already start with the Tom Brady comparisons.

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Speaker 1: Let's put that way to the side for a minute.

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Speaker 1: But this guy has got a chance to come in

733
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Speaker 1: here and develop, and especially Mike I think it's extremely

734
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Speaker 1: important that they have Matt Lafleur here now running this offense.

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Speaker 1: This offense is a very quarterback friendly offense. Matt Lafleurs

736
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Speaker 1: is coming up in one of the best young quarterback

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Speaker 1: developers in this league, and a new offensive coordinator, and

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Speaker 1: I just felt like that they really wanted somebody they

739
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: could bring in. Let him sit for a while, let

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Speaker 1: him learn on a very good football team, and then

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Speaker 1: you may have something after a couple of years. Undrafted

742
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: Titans were very attractive to undrafted's overall, did a fantastic

743
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Speaker 1: job bringing in a huge crop. Is that because they're

744
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: the Titans and they're a playoff team? Is that because

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Speaker 1: they only drafted four guys or is it a combination

746
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: of booth? Well, it's a combination of both. And I've

747
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: been in many of those post draft rooms as to

748
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: where now it's a mad scramble to get these free agents.

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Speaker 1: And you and I talked during the draft about the

750
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Speaker 1: fact that what they started to do. You start to call,

751
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: have your coaches, have your scouts, start calling these players,

752
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: you know, around the fifth round, fourth or fifth round,

753
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: you know, not saying you won't be drafted, just saying

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00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: if you are, good luck, we still you know, we're

755
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: still looking at you. They've developed these relationships throughout the

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00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: entire pre draft process that throughout the entire scouting process.

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Speaker 1: Relationships are extremely important in this I relate a story

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00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 1: to you about, you know, one of my former coaches.

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Speaker 1: You know that I had that had a player at

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech out in West Texas, where I've still got

761
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: a lot of connections. You know, we got the players

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Speaker 1: just because of that connection. Connections are important. The type

763
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: of player is very important. But the fact that they

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00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 1: only had four draft picks, they can honestly tell the agents.

765
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: They can tell the agents because you know, it's like recruiting.

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00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: They can tell the agents, here's who we drafted, Here's

767
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: what our roster looks like. He comes in here, he

768
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 1: has a chance because I know, and I know Mike.

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Speaker 1: Undrafted players are extremely important because there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of undrafted players playing very well in this league right

771
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: now and making a really good salary. One of the

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00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: undrafteds you could certainly see making it from the group

773
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: of edge pass rushers they're bringing in in this undrafted class.

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Speaker 1: There's that possibility, No, absolutely, and there's going to be

775
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 1: an undrafted player that we bring in. I'll say that

776
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 1: right now, as you and I are sitting here looking

777
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,439
Speaker 1: at this, you know, before OTA's even start, that's going

778
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: to be somebody we're looking at at that last cut

779
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: going you know what, it's going to really be hard

780
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: to let this guy go. He might can help us.

781
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: And then plus you've got ten practice squad positions. At

782
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: the end of this whole thing, once a roster is set,

783
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 1: some of these guys are going to still be here. Then,

784
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Speaker 1: I promise you. Akram Wadley, running back from Iowa, electric player,

785
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like an every down back, but feels like

786
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: a guy who could be in a running back core.

787
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: The Titans are going to play more than one running back.

788
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: They're looking for versatility. This is a player that Titan

789
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: fans are excited about, and it seems like with good reason. No,

790
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: there's very good reason, and he fits right into that category.

791
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: Because as we start to go through the OTA process,

792
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: then we start to go through training camp, and you

793
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: start to go through the preseason, keep your eye on

794
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: Akram Wadley and there's going to be other of those

795
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: players that they have signed as undrafted free agents that

796
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: are going to make a difference at that final cut. Mike,

797
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: I've just seen it for thirty plus years. Happen, It

798
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: happens every year. It's going to happen here again this year.

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Speaker 1: Dave McGinnis, what is your final takeaway from draft weekend

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Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Titans. I told John Robinson yesterday in

801
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: the hallways, It's one thing to evaluate players in the

802
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: draft process. It's another thing to arrange your board in

803
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: the draft process. But the final piece to that puzzle

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Speaker 1: if you can have all of that information and if

805
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: you don't have somebody in charge that understands how to

806
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 1: work the draft, that understands the way the National Football

807
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: League works during draft day, that doesn't understand what the

808
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 1: total big picture is and has a feel for everything

809
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: going on in the league as it relates to your team,

810
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: and as it relates to that draft board, and as

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00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: it relates to your time on the clock. The two

812
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: moves that he made to go up and get two

813
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: guys that we had talked about, our fans have talked about,

814
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: that pundits had talked about, but that real football people

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00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:51,360
Speaker 1: knew were very, very good, and I'll say even better

816
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: than good, defensive football players that fit not only on

817
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: any team, but really fit this team as far as

818
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 1: to what they were looking for in this The way

819
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: he worked this draft board and the way he worked

820
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Speaker 1: this draft process, it impressed me. That's my takeaway is

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Speaker 1: everybody that's associated with the Tennessee. Titans are fans every

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00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: of course, everybody in this building, and I promise you

823
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: around the league, because I have a lot of league connections,

824
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: they know that John Robinson is one of the best

825
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: young general managers in this business. Good stuff from Dave

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Speaker 1: McGinnis with us again. He'll be back with us on

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Speaker 1: Titan for Radio this year. Amy Wells, Jim White, thanks

828
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Speaker 1: so much for being with us. Enjoyed it. The Official

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Speaker 1: Titans podcast OTP ten in the books. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Have a great rest of your day.