1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Every day a week ago. Click up the Breakfast Club 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Finish y'all done? 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 2: Yes, The More Dangerous Morning Show to Breakfast Club, Charlamagne 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 2: to God, Lauren Larrossa, DJ, Envy, Jess Larius and I 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: don't know what just went. Wow, I know what just went. 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: I don't know where Envy went though the way back. Okay, 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 2: we have counselman James Solomon. He's running for mayor of 8 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 2: Jersey City. Good morning, counselman. 9 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 3: Thank you for having me. 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 4: Now. 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: They did not tell us who his brothers. 12 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 5: I have no idea. 13 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 2: Nobody told us anything. James Solomon was coming. So I'm sorry, sir. 14 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: I think why Envy walked out because he didn't know you, 15 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,200 Speaker 2: He didn't know how to introduce you, whatever, whatever. 16 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 1: So I don't have a problem looking like I don't 17 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: know nothing. 18 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 4: I have counsel and Frank education Gilmore. 19 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 3: Okay, so Frank, Frank's counseling here in ward f Jersey City. 20 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: That's why you walked out. 21 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 5: But keep us the information on the brother But I 22 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 5: just thought I. 23 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: Didn't I didn't. 24 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: I didn't know anything, and he was ready to get prepared. 25 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no no information, I said, give me a second. 26 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: Oh we are started. Yes, how are you? 27 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 5: I'm doing well, so, Councilman James Salomon, So you're running 28 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 5: from maya of Jersey City. 29 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 3: That's right. Why that's a great question. So Jersey City 30 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: has gotten being one of the most unaffordable cities in 31 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 3: the entire country. Rents up fifty percent five years. 32 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: Because it's right next to the bridge, that's right, got the. 33 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 3: Holland Tunnel, probably taxed up fifty percent in five years. 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: And we haven't had a leader who's been focused on 35 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: actually making the city affordable, putting money in people's pockets, 36 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 3: making sure the rent doesn't go through the roof. And 37 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: so I'm running to deliver an affordable Jersey City. 38 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Are you from Jersey City? 39 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: I grew up in Milbourne and I moved to Jersey 40 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 3: City fifteen years ago. 41 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, so you're familiar with Jersey City, the traffic, 42 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 5: So how do you stop the traffic out in Jersey City? 43 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 5: That's one of the first first of traffic is always 44 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 5: nuts in Jersey to. 45 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: Tell people to move. Now, how we're even that? 46 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 5: And two is the expenses and how are you going 47 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 5: to get this? You know, of course of living so 48 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 5: down so much where people can actually live there. 49 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. 50 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: So first thing on that one is we got to 51 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: get tougher un development. Right Jersey City developers have taken 52 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 3: a lot and it's time for them to start giving 53 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 3: back to us. So right now we basically had luxury 54 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 3: only development, so no affordable in Jersey City, tens of 55 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: thousands of units. So I'm the only can I run 56 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: for mayor as well as the counsel. When we don't 57 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: take money from developers in our campaign, gives us some 58 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 3: real independence. So we're going to demand twenty percent affordable 59 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 3: in all new projects with real rents, So rents one 60 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 3: thousand a month, rents fifteen hundred a month. Because folks 61 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: say affordable, but what does that actually mean? So we 62 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: want to be specific rents one thousand a month, runds 63 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 3: fifteen hundred a month. And then on transportation, I think 64 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 3: a big thing is just trying to make our mass 65 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 3: trains that work better. So I say, for your New 66 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 3: York viewers, you know path is actually worse than MTA, 67 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 3: It's worse than the subway. We had a train land 68 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: on fire a couple of weeks ago, a couple months ago. 69 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,640 Speaker 3: So we're going to push to get our pass service 70 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: running much more effectively, particularly on the weekends. Improve our 71 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 3: light rail, Jersey City's got a great light rail, and 72 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: then improve the buses. We think we can push and 73 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,360 Speaker 3: do all those things. 74 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: I want to ask you about why tell us the 75 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 2: importance of the city council for people who don't know. 76 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: So, the points of the city Council was really the 77 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 4: check and balance mechanism for the executive brand. So if 78 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 4: you're looking at the president and then you have the 79 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 4: House of Representative and you have Congress, they're opposed to 80 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 4: be that check and balance mechanism from the executive branch. 81 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: And I would make the argument that the council races 82 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 4: are more important than the actual mayor or races because 83 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 4: the mayor may want to introduce something, but ultimately the 84 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: council was tasked well either approve in or voting that initiative. Now, 85 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,679 Speaker 4: so the city council level is so important, especially to 86 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: every day residents. 87 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I fact is that one thing. So Frank 88 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 3: and I are the only two members currently on the 89 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 3: council that got our seats independently. You know, New Jersey, 90 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: Jersey City got a really strong political machine, really powerful forces, 91 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: and each of us got to our seats by starting 92 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: on the grassroots, knocking on doors, being connected to the people, 93 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: and that's partly why we've always been aligned politically. And 94 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 3: you need independent voices on the council because if you 95 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 3: don't have them, you just get the rubber stamp over 96 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 3: and over again. Whatever the machine wants, whatever the money wants, 97 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: that's what they get. And so you really need to 98 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 3: have independent voices on your city council pushing the city forward. 99 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 5: One thing Jersey City is also for is bad flooding. 100 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 5: Right at a call wash in Jersey City, maybe about 101 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 5: fifteen years ago, right, and what street don't even remember 102 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 5: the street, Main street coming up as soon as you 103 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 5: come out the Hoiland Tunnel right on the right hand side. 104 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 5: Bought the wash exactly and then it closed it. 105 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: You know why, because it flooded. 106 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 5: It flooded, right, So it flood is so bad that 107 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,679 Speaker 5: for like two weeks at a time, nobody could actually 108 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: get to my call wash because there was so much 109 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: water there. And then when they got a car, wise 110 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 5: they'd have to drive through the water, which missed the car. 111 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 5: Didn't make any sense. So why is Jersey City always flooded? 112 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 5: And what could be done to make sure that that 113 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 5: doesn't happen as much. 114 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question. 115 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: So if you look at like the old maps, like 116 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: where your car wash was, like it used to be water, 117 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 3: I mean the Hudson River used to be there, and 118 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: then they filled it in over the years. And so 119 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: what we can do is a couple of different things. 120 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 3: One is like you're kind of getting like walky, but 121 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: like you kind of want to treat your city like 122 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 3: a sponge. 123 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: You want more trees because they suck. 124 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 3: Up the water. You want more poor poor surfaces, your 125 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: pavement to be able to soak up the water. And 126 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 3: then you get more pumps to basically push the water out. 127 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: So it's just like investments and it's thinking for the 128 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 3: future because it's like getting better right. Climate change is 129 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 3: getting work right. We had Hurricane I I mean I 130 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 3: was in people's basements seeing the flooding devastation. I mean 131 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: people's livelihoods. I mean people live in the city, their 132 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 3: whole lives, all their stuff gone. And so we have 133 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 3: to be committed to basically making sure that Jersey City 134 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: has the best stormwater resiliency programs, expand your soores, create 135 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: that sort of porous sponge like services wherever you can, 136 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 3: and then you help with a flooding. 137 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: And you're a cancer. 138 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 2: I am, yes, How does your own medical history drive 139 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 2: your agenda for healthcare? 140 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: I mean it's the core I think of who I 141 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: am and why I got into public service. I mean, 142 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 3: so just this to the quick story. 143 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 5: Right. 144 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 3: So I was thirty, had gotten married in a month 145 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 3: after the wedding, got the diagnosis. So you just think, 146 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 3: you know, you're thirty, you think you're invincible the life 147 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 3: in front of you, and all of a sudden, you 148 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: have cancer. And it made me think deeply about what 149 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: it is that I wanted in life, and for me, 150 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 3: it was just two things. It was family in public service. 151 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: So it's like, if I get better, if I get 152 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 3: that second chance, that's what I want. And I got lucky, right, 153 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 3: treatment worked. Six months later I was in remission. So 154 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: actually this is the ten year anniversary of the diagnosis 155 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 3: and so nine years back in health and so I 156 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 3: was like, you know, family, public service. So my wife 157 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: and I have three beautiful daughters, Camilla, Curna and Noel. 158 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 3: They're seven, five and three. And then it was give 159 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: back to Jersey City because like Jersey City had my 160 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 3: back during my toughest time, so it's like I have 161 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: to have their back and I got to do it 162 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: the right way. And so that's what led me to 163 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 3: run for office and in council. I know that I 164 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: have to pay a forward. I know that I got 165 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: to make sure that people have access to healthcare. So 166 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 3: as a city, we've expanded our health care options, We've 167 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: opened up clinics, We're making sure more people can get healthcare. 168 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: And an at the national level, you know, it made 169 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: me a supporter of universal health care. It made me say, 170 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 3: look like, when you're going through that tough treatment, you 171 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 3: need to be focused on yourself and your family. Then 172 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 3: I have to be worried about insurance and bills on 173 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 3: top of that. To add that extra stress, like your 174 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: illness might bring bankruptcy to your family, Like that is 175 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 3: awful to force somebody through. So for me, it made 176 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 3: me a support of universal health care. And I think, look, 177 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 3: other countries, they don't have medical bankruptcies, but we do. 178 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: And so that's what led me to decide that that 179 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 3: was the right approach for us. On the national level, 180 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 3: I always support candidates that are pushing for universal health care. 181 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,479 Speaker 6: During the times right now though, where like Meta and 182 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 6: medicare like there's so much conversations about things being cut 183 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 6: and something will happen. We don't know everything, right, but 184 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 6: something will. How do you, you know, personally, as a 185 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 6: cancer survivor, deal with the residents that you're fighting for 186 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 6: when you have to possibly prepare to tell them I 187 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 6: might not be able to help you. As a politician, 188 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 6: how do you maneuver that? 189 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: I mean, those are the most brutal conversations because you 190 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 3: get into politics because you want to help people, but 191 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: you also can't lie to them. And you know, on healthcare, 192 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 3: you know, we know the Medicaid cuts are coming. I 193 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: mean part of what I kind of hated about what 194 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: Trump did was he cut it, but he put it 195 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: after the election, right, so you're going to feel those 196 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 3: cuts in twenty twenty seven, not this year, so he 197 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: can get through the election before people feel it. But 198 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: I just tell people that I fight, right. I think 199 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 3: that's the thing is you can't promise things you can't deliver, 200 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 3: but you can promise that you're going to fight. And 201 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: so when these elections come in twenty swix, I'm gonna 202 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 3: fight for candidates that want healthcare and get them into office. 203 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 5: You know, I've been living in Jersey for about I 204 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 5: would say twenty plus years, twenty five years something like that, 205 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 5: and our stay she was back now Street, so familiar 206 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 5: with going through Jersey City. What how come nothing ever changes? Right, 207 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 5: There's been so many different mays in the last twenty 208 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 5: years that I've been living in in Jersey City. Right, 209 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 5: it's still the same. It's still traffic is crazy, it's 210 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 5: still you know, floods all the time. It's still expensive, 211 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 5: it's still very very costly even everything. But it seems 212 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 5: like nothing ever changes. So what will be different with you? 213 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 3: It's I think starts with accountsment. We're connected to the people, 214 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: like we start there. Neither of us got to where 215 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: we got because the machine put us there. And you've 216 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 3: seen that over the years, Right, the machine picks their 217 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 3: person and then you don't serve the people. You serve 218 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 3: the bosses. And I think what we're going to be 219 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 3: able to do is actually get into office and fight 220 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 3: for folks. So again, not taking that developer money. That's huge. 221 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,839 Speaker 3: Jersey City has had so much growth and development, which 222 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:46,439 Speaker 3: isn't a bad thing, but it hasn't been for the 223 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 3: whole community. So making sure we actually get affordable units, 224 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: in getting those one thousand dollars a month rents in 225 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 3: those large new luxury towers, that's doable. It's a thing 226 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 3: we can deliver. And I think people will see that, 227 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 3: you know, if you're actually a mayor whose job, who's dreaming? 228 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: Is this to be too often people if you said 229 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 3: as a stepping stone for the next thing. And I 230 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 3: respect politicians with ambition obviously wouldn't be here if I 231 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 3: didn't have some, But I do think mayor's the dream 232 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 3: job that you actually get to serve your community every day, 233 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,839 Speaker 3: go home at night and put your kids to bed, 234 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 3: Like I couldn't imagine a better job. And I think 235 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 3: people will see that they have a mayor who's actually, 236 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 3: you know, gives a shit about them. 237 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: What do you think counseling can give them? 238 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 4: I think I think also when you're talking about the 239 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 4: municipal government and you're talking about the budget and you're 240 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 4: talking about ways to find money, we looked and we 241 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 4: seen that it was several individuals not paying the payroll 242 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 4: teams right, and these institutions historically get away from get 243 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: away with not paying because of their ties to elected leadership. 244 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 4: You know, they give these guys hundreds of thousands of 245 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 4: dollars in their campaigns to turn their back when they 246 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 4: see unethical things taking place. So when you have a 247 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: government that's grounded and working for the people, you can 248 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 4: ensure that the people that's making the most money is 249 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 4: paying their fair share. 250 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: With that, do with it. 251 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 4: Release the burdens on every day homeowners that own one 252 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 4: and two family homes. Right, their taxes are not so 253 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: high because we're collecting the share that we're supposed to 254 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 4: be collecting. With the amount of development that transpired in 255 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,959 Speaker 4: Jersey City within the last seven to ten years, there's 256 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: no way you can have more development and the course 257 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 4: of living going up, you have more ratables, you have 258 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 4: more money coming in. Something isn't right here, right, and 259 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 4: there's a there's a system that say, you know, put 260 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 4: the oners on them and you know they'll do what's right. Right, 261 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 4: you need a government that's going to be transparent and 262 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,599 Speaker 4: that's going to hold those developers accountable. You know, I 263 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 4: get the I get the the kickback. Oh he's anti development, 264 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: No I'm not. I'm just pro responsible development. 265 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 5: Right. 266 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 4: We want to make sure the development that's taking place. 267 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,400 Speaker 4: One benefits the community, and two the developers are paying 268 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 4: their fair share. 269 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: I call it or kill a Mike always called the 270 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 2: compassionate capitalism. That's right, Yeah, that's what I agree. Yeah, 271 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 2: I agree should be compassionate capitalism. Like I look at 272 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:05,920 Speaker 2: somebody like going around on Donnie's campaign, right, and all 273 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: he's talking about is people having more money in they 274 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: pocket and people being safe. I don't know why politicians 275 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 2: complicate any of this, That's all any America wants. 276 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 4: Well, when people giving you money, you gotta you kind 277 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 4: of gotta do your job, you know. 278 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: For your job is a complicated things. 279 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 4: No, what I'm saying is when when you have people 280 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 4: who have invested interests in you and they're giving you 281 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 4: these monies and they're you know, taking care of your 282 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 4: family members, and you know, you're giving out these contracts 283 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: to all these people who super pack and supporting you. 284 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 4: And that's the messiness in politics, right, so you kind 285 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 4: of lose yourself. They offered me to give me x 286 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 4: amount of money to run on a certain slate, and 287 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 4: I was like, well, I can't be counselmen again, Well, 288 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: the people like the counselmen that represent the interests of 289 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 4: the people. That's what makes me unique. That's the only 290 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 4: way I can win a race with fifty thousand going 291 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 4: against two point five million, Right, because the people like representation, 292 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 4: one that understand the problems, one that look like them, 293 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: and two that come from where they come from. Right, 294 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 4: That's what makes me unique. So is a disservice to 295 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 4: all of the people who supported me for me to say, Hey, 296 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 4: now I'm in a position to do what I fought 297 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 4: against my whole career. 298 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: I agree, and I. 299 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 5: Want to talk about I'm sorry one other thing, crime 300 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 5: because you mentioned crime with Manana. You know, they're saying 301 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 5: that homicides is down, which is a great thing, but 302 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 5: everything else is up when they're talking stolen vehicles is up, 303 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 5: assaults is up, thefts is up, criminal mischief is up. 304 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 5: How do we cut back on some of the crime 305 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 5: that's happened in New Jersey City because a lot of 306 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 5: people where Jersey City was the place where a lot 307 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 5: of people woul go to restaurants, they would go to 308 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 5: the night life was big at one time, but it 309 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 5: slowed down a lot, which is hurting businesses because crime 310 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 5: is up. So how do you combat that? 311 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question. 312 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 3: So I think it's a give you and all the 313 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: above approach. So first is, we do need some more officers. 314 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 3: We've lost one hundred and fifty over the last five years. 315 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: We get some more officers, get them on the street. 316 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 3: Our current police chief keeps them literally in these fixed posts. 317 00:12:59,000 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: We are not allowed to move. 318 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: So if their crime that happens a block away, you say, hey, officers, 319 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: is a crime, they'll literally tell you I can't move. 320 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: Call it in a block away. 321 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: That's nuts. 322 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 3: So we're going to change that approach, actually get folks 323 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 3: on the beaten moving. But then you gotta invest in 324 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 3: the community. 325 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: Right. 326 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 3: Ultimately, part of the reason that those petty crimes have 327 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 3: gone up is we're not offering opportunities for young people 328 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 3: in Jersey City. So we're gonna change that. We're gonna 329 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 3: have a plan for a thousand summer jobs, get folks 330 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: off the street, give them use opportunities, income to to 331 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: be able to find what gives them validation, find what 332 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: gives them hope. And then we've got a plan to 333 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: basically make sure we have violence interrupters everywhere in the city. 334 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 5: Now they're saying that a lot of the officers are 335 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 5: leaving because they feel like the city is not behind them, 336 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 5: meaning people are getting arrested, and they're re arresting the 337 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 5: same people over and over and over again. They're getting 338 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 5: non cash bails and they're coming out and doing these 339 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 5: same crimes. And a lot of officers are saying that, 340 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 5: you know, why risk my life in Jersey City when 341 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 5: I can go down south where they feel like they 342 00:13:54,760 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 5: respect the law a lot better in the Florida Florida. 343 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 5: I'm talking in Houston. I'm talking in places like that 344 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 5: where they feel. 345 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 4: Like, well, I mean, I'm I'm on a record. I'm 346 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: a huge fan of cash list bells. Being in that 347 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 4: situation and seeing several individuals sitting in county jail for 348 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 4: two and three years for petty crimes because they don't 349 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 4: have the financial stability to get out. But there is 350 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 4: there needs to be a conversation for repeat offenders. I'm 351 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 4: na at one point when it like this first uh 352 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 4: no cash bell came into play and we've seen a 353 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: lot of people who was arrested of firearms being able 354 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 4: to come home and subsequently some of those individuals end 355 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: up dead or killing other people. So I think that 356 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 4: you know, while there's some benefits, there's some setbacks that 357 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 4: we need to be able to tweak out. And ultimately 358 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 4: I think the state have done a better job with that, 359 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 4: keeping violent offenders in there longer until they either I 360 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 4: guess sentence or zonerator or however that go. But when 361 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: you're talking about crime, right, in order to really address crime, 362 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 4: you have have to first understand crime right. So we've 363 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 4: done a fairly decent job as it relates to homicide 364 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 4: and violence crimes being down across the city. And that's 365 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 4: because we have organizations like using Partnership CMO, Credible Messengers, 366 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 4: you know, a bunch of groups that I work with. 367 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 4: We do what we call high level intervention with individuals 368 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 4: who may particulate, participate in gain violence and things like that. 369 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 4: So it's about funding those institutions. They're doing this stuff 370 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 4: with no money, with no money on a shoe screen budget, 371 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 4: so we invest in them they can do more. Now, 372 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 4: when you're talking about petty crime, what are some of 373 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 4: the motivations of individuals committing petty crime? A lot of 374 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 4: these crimes are people breaking in cars still a laptops 375 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 4: because it's visible, taking change and things like that. These 376 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: are people with drug addiction. These are people that have problems. Right, 377 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 4: you treat the You treat the problem and not the symtom. 378 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 3: Right. 379 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 4: You get these people in rehabs, you have opportunities for 380 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 4: them to rehability, excuse me, rehabilitate themselves. Right, And that's 381 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 4: how you have a holistic approach to crime. 382 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: Do you think the gentrification, the gentrification in Jersey City 383 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 2: will be beneficial or it will be too many residents 384 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 2: being displaced? 385 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: Well, it's a gentrification is already there, right, So it 386 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 4: always tells people. I always tell people it's at the 387 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 4: end of the day already. Now, I'm a black man 388 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 4: in America, right, I'm of the opinion. Right, if gentrification 389 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: is here, you have to be a part of the system. 390 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 4: It's coming. In fact, it's already here. Right, I'm encouraging people. 391 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: And this is outside of politics. Right, Buy up whatever 392 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 4: you can buy up, get together with two or three people, 393 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: buy it up. Buy your grandmother house, get your family house, 394 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 4: don't sell the house. Right, because gentrification is here. And 395 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 4: to really have stake in the game, you have to 396 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 4: own property. You have to have ownership. I don't care 397 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: who's in charge. You have to have ownership. So you 398 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 4: have to be proactive. Man, it's already here, and you 399 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 4: have to become a willing participant inside of this cycle. Right. 400 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: And I tell people all the time, right, crime is 401 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 4: going to is gonna move. Because that's the good thing 402 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: about gentrification, right. It eradicates a certain element of a community, right, 403 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 4: because it's an influx of not just black or white, 404 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 4: it's just individuals on a high end of the socioeconomical ladder, right, 405 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: people that make more money. So with that group of people, 406 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 4: it's certain certain stuff that's just not going to be around. 407 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: Right. 408 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 4: So the gentrification is there, there's also an opportunity for 409 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 4: people to benefit from it. Right. I ain't sitting around 410 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 4: complaining about, Oh this person is buying up no participate. 411 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 4: Get with a brother or sister. 412 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: I got two. 413 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 4: Friends they living, they paying three thousand dollars on each 414 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 4: floor in the house. 415 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: Get a mortgage. 416 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 4: Right, don't get in the business of complaining it like 417 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 4: let's boost. 418 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 5: Something about no, no, no, no, they can't put down money. 419 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 6: Know about the But okay, so politicians that come here 420 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 6: are just in general, when I talk to them, they 421 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 6: will name all these programs on these resources. But when 422 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 6: you just talk to the regular person. Grandmam is ten 423 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 6: years back taxes. You don't even have the energy to 424 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 6: think about that, and you don't know you don't know 425 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 6: who to call to find out. Right, what are you 426 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 6: doing to bridge that gap of Hey, I'm giving you 427 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 6: the resource because I want to make sure y'all can 428 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 6: be in an ownership conversation. 429 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 3: This is what Frank is great at, right. So you 430 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: know he calls himself Frank Educational Gilmore. But there's a 431 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: reason for that, right. Frank is in the community every day. 432 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 3: He literally goes door to door to let people know. 433 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 3: He held a couple of specific meetings about hey, how 434 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: do you benefit from home ownership? How do you access 435 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: the resources that are there? And the community trust Frank 436 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 3: And so Frank is out there every day doing that. 437 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 3: But I think it gets back to something you were 438 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 3: talking about with Mom Donnie. It's just understanding that, like, 439 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 3: part of our job is money in people's pockets. 440 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: Right. 441 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: Part of the reason you know people didn't care about 442 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 3: things Mom Donnie tweeted six years ago, was because he 443 00:18:58,160 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 3: showed that he was actually the one guy who's want 444 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 3: to fight some powerful interests to get more money in 445 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: people's pockets right, freeze rent, right, get more affordable homes built. 446 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 3: And that's what we're doing. And that's what I think 447 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: for unmally like race is about. It's like, look, we 448 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 3: got people who should be able to buy their homes, 449 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: who should be able to stay in Jersey City, but 450 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 3: they don't know about it, and we're going to actually 451 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 3: be focused on getting them money because we don't have 452 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 3: other people telling us what to do. We don't have 453 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: bosses giving us an order, we don't have developers demanding 454 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 3: that we prioritize them over the homeowners. But we're going 455 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 3: to be out there every day knocking on doors, hosting 456 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 3: community meetings and like getting people education so they can 457 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 3: actually benefit from changes that are happening in the community. 458 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 4: And also, like something my office did, right, we host 459 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 4: these first time home buyers seminar. 460 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: We just have one. 461 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 4: Saturday, right, and we have a newsletter that go out. 462 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 4: I'm very involved in the community, and my whole thing 463 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 4: is I'm telling people is like, this is what's available. 464 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,399 Speaker 4: My whole platform is about educating people. It's really the 465 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 4: main reason I'm into politics. I'm not really I don't 466 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 4: like politics, to be completely honest, right. But I'm in 467 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 4: it because I want to hurt I want to help 468 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 4: people out right, and I'm encouraging them. It's like it 469 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 4: seems hard because in black and brown communities, like we 470 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 4: don't have these conversations about homeownership as much as we should. Right, 471 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: So I'm encouraging them. I remember, I'm a recipient of 472 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 4: a first time home buyer house. It took me a 473 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 4: year to close on that house. The people I was 474 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 4: working with, they said, mister Gilmore, you have encountered every 475 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 4: single setback that you can encounter and purchased in the house. 476 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: Right. 477 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,959 Speaker 4: So I use that to fuel me to help the 478 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 4: next person, to help the next family. I'm teaching them 479 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 4: outside of my job that if your house have a 480 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 4: lean on it, what you can do to get this 481 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 4: lean off, how you can leverage the equity in your house. 482 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 4: Because us we're looking at the house, I'm looking at 483 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 4: the value in the land. Right. So it's about educating. 484 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 4: That's the most important thing that I didn't I think 485 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 4: I really was successful at accomplishing this first term is 486 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 4: educating the people, and I think that's the most important thing. 487 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: It's education. 488 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 5: Now, you shot up in the polls, right, you a 489 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,919 Speaker 5: year ago, you were a down low yeah, and you 490 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 5: shot back up where it's almost neck and neck. Why 491 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 5: do you think that is? 492 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, well it gets back to money and pockets, right, 493 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 3: being directly a focus on affordability each and every day. 494 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 3: But then also it's the dynamic of the race and 495 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 3: it's not too different than which you guys seen in 496 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 3: New York. Know you guys are Jersey residents, but what 497 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: folks in NewYork have seen, right, My main opponent is 498 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: a disgraced former governor, not Andrew Cuomo, Jim McGreevy who 499 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: resigned and scandal twenty years ago. And he started with 500 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 3: everybody right. The governor endorsed him, all the bosses endorsed him. 501 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: He raised five million dollars, which is like three times 502 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 3: as much as anybody's ever raised in Jersey City before, 503 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 3: and so you know he starts at the lead. But 504 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: just like Cuomo came back down to earth, it's the 505 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 3: same thing with McGreevy, because when you knock on someone's door, 506 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 3: they don't care about any of that. The only thing 507 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,359 Speaker 3: they're asking about is how can I make your life better? 508 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:48,880 Speaker 1: That's it. 509 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: And I can show look on the kitty council. We 510 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 3: banned the use of illegal algorithms to ban to set 511 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: rents high. We repealed the fees they put on our 512 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: pre public pools. We've been about doing work for people 513 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 3: in the community, and so when you get to tell 514 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: that story to people, they're like, I might not have 515 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:05,239 Speaker 3: known about you six months ago, but I want you 516 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 3: to be the mayor because you seem like you're actually 517 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: gonna try to make my life better. The guy who 518 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 3: reports to Charles Kushner, he's not gonna make my life better. 519 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: Counsel Gilma, why are you supporting consum asylum? 520 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 4: Oh that's a great question. I mean, I've supported Counselman 521 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 4: Salomon because he's been like one of my biggest allies 522 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 4: on the council and I've witnessed how he worked firsthand. 523 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: We're the only two independent council people. And just to 524 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 4: give you guys of a reality on how that looks, 525 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 4: that means we only have two votes. You need five 526 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 4: votes to get anything passed. So whenever the administration come 527 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 4: in with something that's like the regular person we're looking 528 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 4: it's like, this is dumb. Why a is they voting 529 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 4: and they get passed? Is because the administration have these 530 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: these these council people that's a part of the administration, 531 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 4: and they just vote for whatever the administration want. I've 532 00:22:55,560 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 4: witnessed Counselman Salomon work with the odds against US seven 533 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:04,160 Speaker 4: too and to get meaningful legislation passed. I've witnessed him 534 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 4: argue with League and say, listen, I didn't ask you 535 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 4: if we can do it or we can't do what 536 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 4: I'm saying, find a way in which we can do it, 537 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 4: because they know Torrius were saying, oh, we can't do this, 538 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 4: we can't do that right Whenever it's me or counsel 539 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 4: and Salmon coming to them, but everybody else they go 540 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: and they try to make a way. So for me, 541 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 4: when I'm looking at it, I'm looking at one who 542 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 4: is really genuine about doing the job, who have the experience, 543 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 4: who can have the financial capacity to get to the 544 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 4: finishing line, and who I would be able to work 545 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: with best to get the most resources for my war, 546 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 4: because ultimately I want to make sure my residents and 547 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 4: ward f are taken care of, and Counselm and Salomon 548 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 4: have proven to be that individual. Fun fact, everybody running 549 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 4: for May wanted me before they even made any announcements. Everybody, 550 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 4: if we can get gilmore, we're in a good position. 551 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 6: Right. 552 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 4: So they used to say. I was like the hot 553 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: my friend saying you the hot chicken eye. Everybody watch 554 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 4: you and I and I, you know, I waited patiently 555 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 4: and I looked at who was because for me, like 556 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,480 Speaker 4: who you're connected to is really important. 557 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: You know. 558 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 4: My mentors say, be mind for the company you keep right. 559 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 4: So and I see Counselor in Salemon have done a 560 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 4: great job by surrounding himself around people who's really into 561 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 4: doing the business of the municipal government. For me, I said, 562 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 4: you know, I have to get behind that, right, you know, 563 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: Like I said, people have offered me very lucrative things, 564 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 4: and some people is looking at me like, oh, what's 565 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,239 Speaker 4: wrong with this guy? He don't understand politics. And I'm like, no, 566 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 4: I don't understand politics the way you understand it. 567 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: Right. 568 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 4: So that's why I'm supporting Counselor in Solomon, and that's 569 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 4: why he's going to be our next mayor. 570 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 5: All right, Well, wrapping me closing this out, what do 571 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 5: you want to say to your residence in Jersey City. 572 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 3: Well, it was a question that ver you asked which 573 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 3: was like your things haven't changed. So I get the cynicism, 574 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: I get why people are frustrated, but I do think 575 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 3: we can we can have hope. We can have genuine 576 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 3: public servants that each and every day get up and 577 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 3: think their job is to serve other people and make 578 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 3: their lives better. So I asked for everyone's vote if 579 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: you live in Jersey City, because genuinely, we can make 580 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 3: the city more affordable. We can end the luxury only 581 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 3: housing and get housing that actually people can afford. We 582 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 3: have a plan to get rent to own for teachers, firefighters, nurses, cops, 583 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: make sure that they're able to stay in the city 584 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 3: that they serve. We're going to cap rent increases and 585 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,879 Speaker 3: we're going to stabilize property taxes, which had gone up 586 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 3: fifty percent in five years. So if you want leadership 587 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 3: that's independent, that puts the people first, and the only 588 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: bosses the residents of Jersey City, then we're asking for 589 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 3: your vote. 590 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 5: Is the last question? O y, I'm I thought that 591 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:40,880 Speaker 5: was the last week. 592 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: Keep going. 593 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 5: With so many influences, artists and etc. 594 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: Etc. 595 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 5: In Jersey City, have you guys ever said, you know what, 596 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 5: let me work with them to make sure that we 597 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 5: can protect our own community because he might somebody might 598 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 5: be strong. He I've seen what Ross Brocket day a 599 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 5: long time ago. What this guy might be strong in 600 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 5: this war. This guy might be strong in this ward. 601 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 5: And we work together, we can stop some of the crimes, 602 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 5: have you guys? 603 00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so that's that's the pro you know, 604 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 4: shout out to my brother Rose Baraka. That's that's my 605 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 4: big brother, that's my mentor. And that's something we've done. 606 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 4: Like on a micro level, we haven't really got to 607 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 4: the place where we need to get to as it 608 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,120 Speaker 4: relates to that. But to your point, that is so important, 609 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,720 Speaker 4: as these are the people that's on the ground that 610 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 4: actually know the people and they are related to the people. 611 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 4: So you have to one fund that initiative and to 612 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: be serious about it, right, don't fund it one year 613 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 4: or halfway and then the next year not funded. 614 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: Right. 615 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 4: I'm looking at naught because nor in Jersey City is 616 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 4: similar in a lot of things. And I'm looking across 617 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 4: the bridge and I'm saying, Wow, they're doing a great 618 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 4: a lot of great things, like the twenty four hours apiece, 619 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 4: like that is beautiful. 620 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: That is beautiful. 621 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 4: Now people feel like they're a part, like we belong right, 622 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 4: so they're more vested. It's kind of like the homeowner 623 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: versus the renter. 624 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: Right. 625 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 4: Homeowners take more care of the property because they understand 626 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 4: how it affects their property value. Right, And you just 627 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: make sure everyone's a part of the conversation, everyone is benefiting. 628 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 4: And I think ultimately that's they ideal match is a 629 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 4: match made in heaven when we do that. 630 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: You know, Counsel Asylum and they just dropped a hit piece. 631 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 2: On you and oh yeah, the city time they said 632 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 2: you come from a privileged background. 633 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: I don't you know. 634 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 2: I saw him do that with Mundannie And I'm like, 635 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: I don't see why that about public service, Like, I don't. 636 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 4: You're gonna penalize me from my parents making the right decision. 637 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 4: That's kind of how life should work. 638 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 3: Your parents should put you in the best position to succeed. 639 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 3: And you asked telling me about the cancer diagnosis like that, 640 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 3: you know it was this thing that like just all 641 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: the scales fell away. Now that's what matters is are 642 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 3: you dedicating your life to making other people's lives better? 643 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: And do you fight for what's right? And when I talked, 644 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 3: when I got someone's door. The question is how are 645 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 3: you going to lower my rent? How you make sure 646 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 3: my kids public school is better? How are you going 647 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 3: to make sure I can cross the streets safely and 648 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 3: not get run over that how are you gonna stop 649 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 3: the flooding? That's those the questions they ask. And I 650 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 3: think we're gonna win because we don't get distracted by 651 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 3: all the you know, the bs. We just talk about 652 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 3: how we're gonna make your life better in the city. 653 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 5: More Councilman Gilmore, Countman Salomon, good luck. 654 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. 655 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 5: Damn vote. When can they go out there and vote? 656 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 3: So early voting is open now so you can vote 657 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: ten am to ten am to eight pm at twelve 658 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 3: sites across Jersey City and then election day is November fourth. 659 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 3: Polls are open six am to eight pm on election 660 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,160 Speaker 3: day in New Jersey. 661 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 5: Now get out there and vote. And we appreciate you 662 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,160 Speaker 5: bub so joining. 663 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Thank you having it's the breakfast club. 664 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 5: Good morning every day a week ago. 665 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: Pack your ass up the breakfast club. You don't finish 666 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: for y'all done