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Speaker 1: news today. Breathless anticipation at Trump Tower over an important
Speaker 1: and perhaps earth taguing development in the world. Are former
Speaker 1: President Donald J. Trump?
Speaker 3: Celebrations are underway for former President Trump after claiming he
Speaker 3: won two golf trophies at his West Palm Beach club.
Speaker 1: That's right, woke libs, you think Donald Trump's a loser?
Speaker 1: What would a loser brag about winning a golf tournament
Speaker 1: at his own course. I don't think so. Although obviously
Speaker 1: Trump has an advantage playing golf, it's difficult for his
Speaker 1: opponents to say focus when they spend all that time
Speaker 1: staring at that ass. Come on, a lot of times
Speaker 1: golfers let you grab them by the asshole. Well, you
Speaker 1: love it if you're a celebrity. That's the worst Trump
Speaker 1: impression in the history of Trump organs. Actually, Trump one
Speaker 1: of the few talented golfers who has a thick ass
Speaker 1: and a front butt. He has a front button. So
Speaker 1: what it does is the butt and the front butt
Speaker 1: become like a big like a ball, like a big ball,
Speaker 1: the back and the front. It helps with the center
Speaker 1: of gravity. It's like being on a hipitie hop. But
Speaker 1: I'm kidding, of course. Congratulations Donald Trump on winning the
Speaker 1: Trump Cup. I'm actually talking about today's big Trump legal development.
Speaker 3: The clock is ticking for former President Donald Trump. You'll
Speaker 3: need to post a nearly half a billion dollar bond
Speaker 3: in order to satisfy his New York civil fraud case judgment.
Speaker 3: Otherwise the state could begin seizing properties to pay for it.
Speaker 1: Damn. That's right. All week we sat with breathless anticipation
Speaker 1: to see if Trump had four hundred and fifty four
Speaker 1: million dollars in his wallet or would Trump Tower be
Speaker 1: turned over to New York City to perhaps ease our
Speaker 1: terrible housing crunch, or more likely to do what they
Speaker 1: always do, another shitty Walgreens, I think. I think another
Speaker 1: shitty Wallgreens whose shelves are bear from the rogue bands
Speaker 1: of shoplift us. Thanks a lot, David Dinkins, is he?
Speaker 1: I don't know very small percentage of the audience who
Speaker 1: will understand whatever do, but the ones that do. As
Speaker 1: you can imagine the prospect of Trump being held accountable
Speaker 1: for what would be the first time had the media enthralled.
Speaker 1: Donald Trump is running out of time to find four
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty four million dollars former.
Speaker 3: Presidents legal problems may finally be catching up with him.
Speaker 5: Could this be the beginning of the end for Trump's
Speaker 5: business empire? It does seem as though we are getting
Speaker 5: closer Trump.
Speaker 2: Filling the walls, closing in on him. Panic mode. I'm
Speaker 2: told of setting it.
Speaker 6: I think we're going to be writing a version of
Speaker 6: an obituary of the Trump Organization.
Speaker 1: On IP the Trump Organization, it died as it lived fraudulently. Look, folks,
Speaker 1: it is very difficult to come back from an obituary.
Speaker 1: It looks like it's the end of the line for
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump. Esquire. No way he comes up with
Speaker 1: half a billion dollars by the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I've been saving this since twenty sixteen, and it's finally here.
Speaker 1: And it's finally here.
Speaker 2: Judgment died four months ago.
Speaker 7: The former president got a financial lifeline from a New
Speaker 7: York appeals court.
Speaker 1: This isn't going to be good.
Speaker 7: It reduced the bond he must pay in the civil
Speaker 7: fraud case for more than four hundred and fifty million
Speaker 7: dollars to one hundred and seventy five million dollars and
Speaker 7: gave him more time to pay for it.
Speaker 1: Well, that's still something. That's ten days to come up
Speaker 1: with one hundred and seventy five million. I mean, unless
Speaker 1: he's about to come and do a shit ton of money,
Speaker 1: I don't see how he does that.
Speaker 6: The recent merger of Truth Social couldn't at the former
Speaker 6: president some three billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Mother, ooh ooh. That is New Year's Eve. You know,
Speaker 1: let's take a step back. What did Trump actually do
Speaker 1: to earn this penalty. Well, it turns out that for
Speaker 1: a decade, whenever Trump wanted to get a loan or
Speaker 1: make a deal, he would illegally inflate the value of
Speaker 1: his real estate, for instance, suggesting that his eleven thousand
Speaker 1: square foot penthouse was a thirty thousand square foot penhouse.
Speaker 1: Guess somehow including the sky in the calculation. We all
Speaker 1: do it. I mean, in my license, I'm not listed
Speaker 1: as five to seven. You know, I'm listed as thirty
Speaker 1: thousand square feet and the that's thank you. And the
Speaker 1: Attorney General of New York knew that Trump's property values
Speaker 1: were inflated because when it came time to pay taxes,
Speaker 1: Trump undervalued the various same properties. It was all part
Speaker 1: of a very sophisticated real estate practice known as lying. See.
Speaker 1: So the judge calculated that the value that he gained
Speaker 1: from the lying with interest was around four hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty four million dollars. Now you might be saying to yourself,
Speaker 1: well that sounds pretty straightforward. Whatever gains you got from lying,
Speaker 1: you have to pay back. Well, that's because you're were
Speaker 1: a idiot. No, if you knew anything about business, if
Speaker 1: you had an MBA, you know, an idiot. We were
Speaker 1: talking about aless crime.
Speaker 8: They find an ordinance or law that it's never been
Speaker 8: used ever before in anyone else.
Speaker 9: He's committed bank fraud where there's no victim.
Speaker 8: It makes no sense.
Speaker 2: No victims, There was no victim. The ruling is blatantly unfair.
Speaker 6: That didn't go over very well with the investment community
Speaker 6: because we're all asking each other who's next, Who's.
Speaker 1: Next the persecuted minority of the investment community. First, first,
Speaker 1: they came first. They came for the arbitrags, and I
Speaker 1: said nothing, for I was not in arbitrage. And then
Speaker 1: they came for the quants, which I could be. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it want. But I am surprised to
Speaker 1: hear this from Kevin O'Leary, the guy who's such an
Speaker 1: asshole wait that even the other people on Shark Tank
Speaker 1: thinks he's an asshole. Now, Shell, I'm surprised to hear
Speaker 1: that he's so chill about overvaluing something that he thinks
Speaker 1: is victimless, because when someone tries to do that to him.
Speaker 6: Which one of you do, I absolutely tear to pieces.
Speaker 6: Now on a twenty eight million dollar valuation, you think this.
Speaker 2: Is worth ten million dollars? Now, I'm going rik your pieces.
Speaker 1: Are you out of your mind?
Speaker 6: Your valuation's insane, your valuation's crazy. I think that's a
Speaker 6: crazy valuation. I think your valuation is stinky.
Speaker 1: Pooh pooh oh, No you did it. Canadians are so vulgar.
Speaker 1: How is he not this mad about overvaluations in the
Speaker 1: real world because they are not victimless crimes. First, the
Speaker 1: banks got paid back at lower interest rates, although to
Speaker 1: be honest, who gives a shit. But second, money is
Speaker 1: an infinite alone that goes to the liar, doesn't go
Speaker 1: to someone who's giving a more honest evaluation. So the
Speaker 1: system becomes incentivized for corruption. And this is part of
Speaker 1: a different Trump fraud case. But avoiding taxes hurts all
Speaker 1: of us. Donald Trump Shenanigan's cost the city of New York.
Speaker 1: And to be honest, and let's be frank here, that
Speaker 1: is money that the City of New York could have
Speaker 1: used to build more Walgreens. Now some blocks, only half
Speaker 1: two of them. Leave it to Kevin O'Leary to be
Speaker 1: unaware enough to say the quiet part out loud.
Speaker 8: I hear about the so called victimus crimes. But the
Speaker 8: laws on the books, falseification of business records and second
Speaker 8: degree issuing false financial statements, insurance fraud, conspiracy and all
Speaker 8: these different aspects of it, those are actual crimes. I
Speaker 8: think as your point is that these should not have
Speaker 8: been prosecuted.
Speaker 6: Everything you just listed off is done by every real
Speaker 6: estate developer everywhere on earth, in every city. This has
Speaker 6: never ever been prosecuted.
Speaker 1: There is a theory in law that if enough people
Speaker 1: commit a crime, it automatically becomes legal. You're familiar with
Speaker 1: the purge, are you not? The thing entitled arrogance. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know this, but most people just
Speaker 1: can't commit fraud and expect to face no repercussions even
Speaker 1: if everyone's doing it. Try getting a car loan by
Speaker 1: saying you have ten times as much money as you
Speaker 1: really do, or claim twenty dependents when you have no children,
Speaker 1: or say you make slightly less money to qualify for
Speaker 1: food assistance. I will guarantee you there are not just
Speaker 1: financial consequences for those lives, but criminal ones. But don't
Speaker 1: tell that to the investment community, because their minds in
Speaker 1: pursuit of profit. There is no rule that cannot be bent,
Speaker 1: there is no principle that cannot be undercut as long
Speaker 1: as you and your friends making money, and the only immoral.
Speaker 4: Practice hold on. I'm not done. If I could wait
Speaker 4: bag of raids m chair up, I would Apparently the
Speaker 4: only immoral.
Speaker 1: Practice in the capitalist system is to use that money
Speaker 1: for people who may need it.
Speaker 5: Broadways and abuse people never want to be honest about
Speaker 5: but a lot of these parents, will you know?
Speaker 2: They abuse a system.
Speaker 5: A lot of them are encouraged to abuse the system.
Speaker 6: Way do you think the money that you get for
Speaker 6: food stamps and other things?
Speaker 2: Who do you think pays that money your healthcare? You're
Speaker 2: taking their money and you just don't seem to care.
Speaker 8: The guy who walks out of the store with a
Speaker 8: bag of food, is he entitled to it because food
Speaker 8: is a necessity and he doesn't have enough of it?
Speaker 1: You nutrition needing mothers, bringing our system to its knees.
Speaker 1: Stealing is only justified when you already have too much. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: whether or not Trump is a victim of selective prosecution,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a matter for the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: to decide. Luckily, that is an institution which still holds
Speaker 1: the trust of the American people because of its integrity.
Speaker 5: For years, Justice Clarence Thomas has secretly accepted luxury gifts
Speaker 5: from a GOP mega donor, Harlan Crowe, Gifts like private
Speaker 5: jet flights, luxury yacht cruises and according to the report,
Speaker 5: the Supreme Court justice never reported them on annual financial disclosures.
Speaker 4: Victimless.
Speaker 1: It's a victimless crime. When we come back, Derek Clark Junior,
Speaker 1: we'll be joining me on the show Don't Get Away.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I got right.
Speaker 1: A Browny Award win a musician. A new album is
Speaker 1: called jpeg Roll. Please welcome Gary Clark Junior. Gary, so
Speaker 1: you know how much I love your music and what
Speaker 1: you do. I've heard you have heard I bother Gary,
Speaker 1: actually quite frequently because I'm such a fan of yours
Speaker 1: and because I love the music. But this album, jaypegra is,
Speaker 1: I just feel like it is a masterpiece. You killed
Speaker 1: the dude, it's so much. It's so good. That good.
Speaker 2: I kind of felt that way, but it's good to
Speaker 2: hear somebody say it out loud.
Speaker 1: When you are because it is a not solitary process.
Speaker 1: But you don't have people really responding live or anything.
Speaker 1: You're you're writing, I guess in a environment without an audience.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, yeah, which is kind of terrifying because in
Speaker 10: my own world I think it's the best thing ever.
Speaker 2: But you never know until album drop days and people
Speaker 2: can be like nah, we don't want it, but it's
Speaker 2: been good so far.
Speaker 1: You could always if you needed reinforcement or any kind
Speaker 1: of comment. Obviously you have my number. Yeah yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're more than welcome to use it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 10: Well, also, you know therebut you doing this drumming thing,
Speaker 10: so I'm killing it.
Speaker 2: If you need a backup, all maybe you can.
Speaker 1: Have a van if we need to travel to do stuff. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's important the band that I'm in. First of all,
Speaker 1: I'm not the youngest or oldest person in it, and
Speaker 1: second of all, I'm not even the best drummer in it.
Speaker 2: That's okay, you think, So, that's okay, you'll be fine,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 1: I'm very appreciative of that. I'm so glad that you've
Speaker 1: offered for us to open up for you on this.
Speaker 1: We just started to write music. I'm telling you though, Man,
Speaker 1: what I love about this album too is like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's the Gary Clark Junior thing like that destroyed a
Speaker 1: hard drive. This album is every generation, every decade of
Speaker 1: Americana music is in it. Man, Like was that intentional?
Speaker 1: I mean you croon on this the falsetto, Like there's
Speaker 1: glam rock, like you're banging it.
Speaker 10: Yeah, well we did this this This record mostly was
Speaker 10: written during the pandemic. So I was by myself in
Speaker 10: a very smoky room doing whatever I wanted.
Speaker 1: Oh so the room is on fire. Sure, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you were just letting yourself go to every place musically
Speaker 1: artistically that you want to go.
Speaker 10: Well, I decided during that time, Well, there was no
Speaker 10: one saying Gary Clark Junior the guitar player, any of
Speaker 10: that stuff. I've kind of been pushed into being this
Speaker 10: guy who's like the savior of the blues, and the
Speaker 10: blues is going to be fine.
Speaker 2: It's the music that will stand a tax of time.
Speaker 2: Like it's everything's cool, true, right, I.
Speaker 1: Will say this, people will always be sad. But the
Speaker 1: other stuff, Man, you hit a false setto and I
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't even know you had that.
Speaker 10: Well, when I was a kid, I had an R
Speaker 10: and B group it's called Young Soul with the buddy
Speaker 10: of mine, Robbie Sublett, and we used to sing like
Speaker 10: R and B songs, So we would sing boys to
Speaker 10: men as yet all for one mista. And so Robbie
Speaker 10: was like this good looking kid, superstar. All the girlers
Speaker 10: loved him, and I was like his backup singer, right basically,
Speaker 10: but we were a group.
Speaker 1: And yeah, you're not any of those things.
Speaker 10: I thought I was going to be an R and
Speaker 10: B singer, right, And then he ended up move into
Speaker 10: France and my friend Eve had a guitar down the
Speaker 10: street and she was like, come hang out with us,
Speaker 10: and I just I grew up as a kid listening
Speaker 10: to R and B music, Curtis Mayfield, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye,
Speaker 10: all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: So what was it like when Stevie Wonder so Stevie
Speaker 1: Wonders on this record?
Speaker 2: Yes, which is been honest? What was it when?
Speaker 1: Now? Did you did you reach out to Stevie Wonder
Speaker 1: and say, hey man, I've been a fan since I
Speaker 1: was a kid. Any chance you might want to jump
Speaker 1: in or no?
Speaker 2: He actually called me, yeah, Stevie Wonder. Stevie Wonder facetimed me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait, Stevie Wonder did what Stevie Wonder FaceTime me?
Speaker 1: He facetimed here.
Speaker 2: It was pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna avoid that. Yeah, for what was the impetus?
Speaker 1: Did he just say like, hey man, I've heard yourself,
Speaker 1: I love it? Like, what's what was the impetus.
Speaker 10: Well, yeah, well he had called me to do a
Speaker 10: song on his record. It was Where's Our Love Song?
Speaker 10: On a record he released in twenty twenty. And then
Speaker 10: soon after that, everything was kind of going crazy, and
Speaker 10: I was frustrated. There was no outlet. I wasn't out
Speaker 10: seeing people. I was just in my phone. And then
Speaker 10: I got to recording a video of me kind of going,
Speaker 10: what the hell's going on?
Speaker 2: You know, in the world, in the world, It's like,
Speaker 2: what are we gonna do?
Speaker 9: You know?
Speaker 2: I was frustrated.
Speaker 10: I was a little angry as concerned, but always with
Speaker 10: a sense of hope. So he facetimes me and he
Speaker 10: always says, my.
Speaker 2: Name really weird. It's funny. He goes, geah rah, I
Speaker 2: don't know where that comes from. So that's my name now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But so he called me and said, I heard I
Speaker 2: heard what you were saying. I see you.
Speaker 10: Let's make a song about it, he said, as a
Speaker 10: matter of fact, I have an idea. It's a song
Speaker 10: called what About the Children. He's like, I'm gonna send
Speaker 10: you a voice memo. You want to collab? But I'm like,
Speaker 10: what am I gonna say?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 10: So he sends me the demo and I get to
Speaker 10: working on the record with my band in the studio.
Speaker 10: We go back and fourth and I said, well, will
Speaker 10: you sing on it now? And not only does he
Speaker 10: sing on it, he plays beautiful harmonica, he plays clavinet.
Speaker 10: He hadn't played clive And I think thirty something years.
Speaker 2: Really classic Stevie.
Speaker 10: But like in the future, it's amazing he's eighty something
Speaker 10: years old and.
Speaker 1: Is he really?
Speaker 10: And I thought that I was working hard in the
Speaker 10: studio and if you ever see, if you ever think
Speaker 10: you're doing too much, watch Stevie Wonder work really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's incredible and it's still just joyful. I mean,
Speaker 1: the one thing about Stevie Wonder is when he plays boy,
Speaker 1: do you you feel the joy? You see the joy?
Speaker 1: It just emanates off of him.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, He's He's tapped into something that I don't think
Speaker 10: that many people are able to tap.
Speaker 1: Into, right, what did joy to be able to work
Speaker 1: with that? And then you got George Clinton. We had
Speaker 1: George Clinton come on. This supposed to have been ten
Speaker 1: or eleven years ago, and I just remember that day
Speaker 1: being like, is George here? Yet? Like George Clinton, He's
Speaker 1: like he's like I think he's in a van coming
Speaker 1: up the turnpike. But it was one of those like
Speaker 1: a dude named Shakey was driving him and like nobody
Speaker 1: really knew what was happening.
Speaker 2: Dude name Shaky, though, is always the most solid you
Speaker 2: can do.
Speaker 1: That's probably the truth. The song Habits, Yeah, what's that.
Speaker 10: It's a song about struggles, you know, just really struggles,
Speaker 10: my personal struggles. It's something that I've always kind of
Speaker 10: been shy about h expressing. You know, in this world
Speaker 10: it's like the flex and everything's cool and everything's rah rah,
Speaker 10: and you know, post the trophies and the great times
Speaker 10: and golf tournament.
Speaker 1: If you win a golf tournament, put that, put that right.
Speaker 4: Out there, congratulates saw its amazing, Yeah, amazing Yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you win that?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, So don't worry about anything else is going on?
Speaker 2: I want this thing twice.
Speaker 10: Yeah, So it's it was you know, I've had my
Speaker 10: struggles over the years. I got into the business as
Speaker 10: a young as a young person fourteen, right, and older
Speaker 10: folks with they taught me how to drink, they taught
Speaker 10: me how to smoke, and you know, I've had my
Speaker 10: battles ever since. And you know, had some losses in
Speaker 10: my life and just being really honest about it. So
Speaker 10: I've got habits that I just can't break. When I think.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a beautiful song.
Speaker 10: It's it's real, and it's and it's raw, and I
Speaker 10: hate to like make everybody sad, but I think it's cool.
Speaker 1: It's it's fantastic and it's you know, there's also a
Speaker 1: certain courage and just saying like, hey man, and this
Speaker 1: song is nine minutes and it's worth every minute. It's
Speaker 1: worth every second. I think it's beautiful.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Well, we actually chopped off a two minute intro.
Speaker 1: So I felt it was lacking something. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I felt that in the beginning.
Speaker 2: It's more.
Speaker 1: No, it's it's fantastic. It's always such a pleasure to
Speaker 1: see you mates.
Speaker 2: Thanks, it's such a good man.
Speaker 1: It's available now we'll do that back up to day.
Speaker 9: It's Oh, I.
Speaker 4: Got out tonight.
Speaker 1: Before we go, we're gonna check in your host for
Speaker 1: the rest of the week, mister Jordan Klepper. Hey, Hey,
Speaker 1: what tell me this? What are you What are you
Speaker 1: gonna be talking about this week? Oh?
Speaker 9: John, I gotta tell you it'll be a bittersweet week,
Speaker 9: as it will be my last week at the show. Yes,
Speaker 9: before I transition to my new job. You're looking at
Speaker 9: the new CEO Boeie.
Speaker 1: You don't want I wouldn't plaud that. It says, yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have, and I don't mean this to disparage.
Speaker 1: Do you have any experience in aeronautics or or business
Speaker 1: or anything? No?
Speaker 9: Okay, okay, but I brought this wrench to the interview
Speaker 9: and they were like, oh my.
Speaker 2: God, you have exactly what we've been looking for.
Speaker 1: It's every worse than what they had. Jordan Clepper all
Speaker 1: this week. Everybody here it is. You know, none of
Speaker 1: this would be happening if Donald Trump wasn't running for president.
Speaker 10: They've issued ninety one indictments against Donald Trump.
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