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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites the podcast from the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Moment. Today's topic betting and golf, because

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Speaker 1: the Action Network announced a massive new deal, a first

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Speaker 1: of its kind deal with the p g A Tour.

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Speaker 1: It's called Golf Bet. It's where you can get all

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Speaker 1: the best golf betting, action, conversation, content, data, everything you

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Speaker 1: need to enjoy betting on golf. Later on in the show,

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Speaker 1: we've got master impressionist, comedy genius, social media phenomenon Joy

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Speaker 1: Molinaro coming on, as well as Jason Sobel, Action Network

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Speaker 1: senior writer, host of the Action Network podcast Download, Subscribe,

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Speaker 1: Rate Review. But first let's get to the main thing.

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Speaker 1: The main thing. You've got a very special guest, multi

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Speaker 1: time p g A Tour winner, Mr Brendan Steele, Brendan Steel,

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Speaker 1: Brendan Steel and Steel. I just want to be able

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Speaker 1: to hit them all higher, a little bit farther, Steel

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Speaker 1: with a rip off the twelve Star, the Bows, the

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Speaker 1: way head of Steel. How good was that? Wow? Fellas, Brendan,

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Speaker 1: how are you? I'm doing great? Thanks having guys. I'm

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Speaker 1: really glad you're on. I'm really glad we're doing this

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Speaker 1: deal with the p g A. We've known for two

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Speaker 1: years that, like the massive amount of interest that fans

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Speaker 1: are developing in golf, The massive amount of interest that

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Speaker 1: has been developing in golf, I think largely from DFS

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Speaker 1: the past couple of years. Like it's bringing an entirely

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Speaker 1: new generation of fans that are getting excited about sort

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Speaker 1: of the opportunity to gut to watch guys play and

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Speaker 1: what every show that really means. How much do you

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Speaker 1: feeling stuff like that? On the course, there has been

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Speaker 1: definitely a huge swing with DFS. I mean, people are

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Speaker 1: always yelling at me, you know, I've I've got you

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Speaker 1: in my draft kings this week, or I'm gonna need

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Speaker 1: you to finish off this parlay or you know whatever

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Speaker 1: they've got going so um, I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of people looking at matchups, uh dfs, people taking long

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Speaker 1: shots every week because you can get way better odds

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Speaker 1: obviously in golf than you can betting other sports, getting

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Speaker 1: guys at one one maybe even more that can win

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Speaker 1: the win the tournament. So we've definitely felt a big

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Speaker 1: change in the last few years, and it's it's been

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Speaker 1: fun at times and then other times, you know, guys

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Speaker 1: the last hole and you're like, well, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: not actually trying to do that, and it's gonna cost

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Speaker 1: me a lot more than it's gonna cost you. Then

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Speaker 1: we announced this deal yesterday. The deal was announced, there

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Speaker 1: was a story in the Washington Post amongst many other

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Speaker 1: places by Ben Strauss, who's the writer there, and he

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Speaker 1: tweeted out the story and a writer named Jason Gave

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Speaker 1: from The Wall Street Eneral responded that, like, golfers are

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Speaker 1: gonna hate this because of the social media response, and

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Speaker 1: my feeling to that is, well, they've already been dealing

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Speaker 1: with it because betting is legal in Europe. They're dealing

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Speaker 1: with it because of DFS. How much do you even

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Speaker 1: worry about something like that. I don't think it's going

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Speaker 1: to change that much. We'll we'll have to wait and see.

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Speaker 1: Because even while betting isn't legal in every state, like

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Speaker 1: people find a ways to beat I mean, you can

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Speaker 1: have a book, you can have online account in the Bahamas,

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Speaker 1: or you know, whatever the case may be. So we're

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot. I'm sure there's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: more of it now, but we're already getting a lot

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Speaker 1: of hate when we when we make mistakes anyway, So

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Speaker 1: social media is never a fun place no matter what

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Speaker 1: you're doing. Steely, you can say that you're getting a

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Speaker 1: lot of hate. I would say that you guys are

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Speaker 1: amongst the most coddled athletes, and specifically you are most

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Speaker 1: and that's is criticizing that quarterback for the next seven

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Speaker 1: and they love him again, whereas golfers aren't necessarily accustomed

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Speaker 1: and no one's mad if you don't play well, other

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Speaker 1: embrace the fact that, Hey, I've got guys rooting for me.

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Speaker 1: by playing DFS with using me in a line up. Yeah. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I definitely want that. I definitely embrace it. I mean

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Speaker 1: It's interesting that you say golfers have it better than

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Speaker 1: It was probably way more ridiculous than than anything that

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Speaker 1: quick story the two thousand fifteen Safe Way Open. Would

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Speaker 1: when that's going on. So you've talked about Phil Nicholson

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Speaker 1: What are what it's advice that either Nicholson is giving

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Speaker 1: you that other veteran tour pros who've given us for

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Speaker 1: If you want it bad enough, you're gonna be nervous.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna feel the say same things that we feel

429
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Speaker 1: out here, whether it's playing against shill or or playing

430
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Speaker 1: to win a tournament. If you want it bad enough,

431
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Speaker 1: you get all the same kind of feelings. And that's

432
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Speaker 1: what makes it golf really great, and it's what makes

433
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Speaker 1: it really hard. Chad, I will tell you a quick

434
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Speaker 1: story that Philter told me a few years ago, and

435
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Speaker 1: I won't give up this player's name. He still plays

436
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Speaker 1: on tour. I actually really like the guy. But he

437
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Speaker 1: got into the money game one day on a Tuesday

438
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Speaker 1: and Phil it was actually on a Wednesday, I think,

439
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Speaker 1: before Major Championship, and Phil said, Okay, we've got We've

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Speaker 1: got a few guys, let's play four x and the

441
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Speaker 1: players that you know, Phil, that's kind of a lot

442
00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,520
Speaker 1: of money. Can we just play for ten times less instead?

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Speaker 1: Or five times less? Whatever it was? And Phil kind

444
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Speaker 1: of looked at me because, yeah, I guess he goes you.

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Speaker 1: You understand, like the winning prize at one point eight

446
00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 1: million dollars this week, like we're playing for that and

447
00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,680
Speaker 1: the money game is nothing even close to that. Don't

448
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,399
Speaker 1: you want to kind of get those juices falling against

449
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't really like playing for money that much.

450
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Speaker 1: Phillis told that story and said, I will never bank

451
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Speaker 1: on that guy to go and win a tournament in

452
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Speaker 1: the heat of the moment on us Monday afternoon, even

453
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Speaker 1: if he's leading down the stretch on the back night,

454
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Speaker 1: just because he's thinking about it too much. He's too nervous,

455
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Speaker 1: and he's not getting himself into those situations where you're

456
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Speaker 1: playing for money and you have something on the line

457
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Speaker 1: and you need to go make a shot. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a great point. It's also if it's

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Speaker 1: your own money and you have to physically pull it

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Speaker 1: out of your pocket and hand it to somebody, it's

461
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: different than if it's this kind of like money that's

462
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Speaker 1: not yours, and that's gonna be transferred into your bank account,

463
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Speaker 1: you know, at a later date. It's people always say, oh,

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Speaker 1: how do you make a pot for you know, a

465
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Speaker 1: hundred grand on tour or something. It's like, well, you

466
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Speaker 1: do the best you can. You try to hit the

467
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Speaker 1: best pot that you can, and you hope it goes in.

468
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Speaker 1: And I've missed plenty for a lot of money, and

469
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Speaker 1: I've made some for some money, and you know, you

470
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: just it's but it's not actually yours. And when you

471
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Speaker 1: actually have to go to the bank and get your

472
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Speaker 1: money and then bring it out, you have to hand

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Speaker 1: it over to one of your friends. It's not very fun.

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Speaker 1: Sobo was telling me how you've got great games with

475
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Speaker 1: like Matthew Stafford and Matt Ryan. It's like, what are

476
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Speaker 1: those like? You have to give them strokes. You guys

477
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,280
Speaker 1: get to play for steaks, Like will they play you

478
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 1: for steaks? Yeah? So we play, I mean we play

479
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 1: just kind of fun games. We like to get team

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Speaker 1: games going. We've got a really good group at at

481
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Speaker 1: Shady Canyon at my club. Matt Ryan and Matt Stafford

482
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Speaker 1: joined last year. Geoffrey Loopol, who played for the Maple

483
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Speaker 1: leaves for a long time. Is a good buddy of mine?

484
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Speaker 1: Um are they? Buddy? Eric is friends with all those guys,

485
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Speaker 1: so we kind of get this group together. Joel class

486
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Speaker 1: that does the football for Fox on Saturdays for college football. Um,

487
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: all these guys love golf, and so yeah, everybody gets

488
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Speaker 1: their socks. You know, I played a plus six at home,

489
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 1: and everybody gets as many shots as they as their

490
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Speaker 1: handicapped dictates. And and we'll go out and play a

491
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Speaker 1: lot of team games and talk some trash and you

492
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,920
Speaker 1: know those are normally pretty low stakes, but they're just

493
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: more for bragging rights than to have a fun game.

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Speaker 1: Who's all right? So this is good? This is good.

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Speaker 1: Which one are those guys? Is coolest under pressure when

496
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Speaker 1: there's a put that has to be made? Of those guys, well,

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan and Joel Klatt are both really good putters.

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Speaker 1: Both really like to have puts to to win matches

499
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Speaker 1: or to you know, win a hole. So those two

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Speaker 1: guys are are very good. I would say Joel clasts

501
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: the best putter in the club. He's for some reason

502
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Speaker 1: just got it kind of kind of nailed. So uh,

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Speaker 1: probably a little nod to Joel, but Matt Ryan right

504
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Speaker 1: behind him. What is the best forcing you've ever played with?

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Speaker 1: It's probably in these games that I'm that I'm having

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Speaker 1: most recently, you know, with with Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford,

507
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Speaker 1: Um some games with Film. I've played with Film with

508
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Speaker 1: the team of Salani before, which is pretty awesome. You know,

509
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: when you can get these kind of guys that are

510
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Speaker 1: huge in other sports and they love to play golf

511
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Speaker 1: to come play with you and they're so super excited,

512
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Speaker 1: that's that's pretty great. I'm a huge King fan, l

513
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Speaker 1: a King. So I've had co Pitar, Dowdy and Muzlin

514
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Speaker 1: out one day together a couple of times actually, so

515
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Speaker 1: so that's pretty awesome for me. I've gotten to do

516
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Speaker 1: a lot of really great stuff. There's just there's so

517
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Speaker 1: many good guys that love to play golf. Um had

518
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Speaker 1: a couple of star groups, which is actually kind of

519
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 1: through SOBL as well. I met Dave Farrell, who is

520
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: the fist player for Lincoln Park through through SOBOL and

521
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: then he's introduced me to some of his other rock

522
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Speaker 1: star friends. So played with them, Shadows from Evenge seven

523
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: Fold and Trey Cool, the drummer for Green Day. It's

524
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Speaker 1: really been a pretty awesome sport to be a part of.

525
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Speaker 1: And I don't know that I could narrow it down

526
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Speaker 1: to one, but there's been a lot of great stuff.

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Speaker 1: I got one more segment I want to do, but

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Speaker 1: before we get to the last segment, how miserable is

529
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Speaker 1: betting hockey? It's so miserable. I was talking about this

530
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Speaker 1: this morning because my buddy John Current and I were

531
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: talking about how bad our numbers are on on Action

532
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: Network with betting hockey, and we're trying to figure out

533
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do. He's gonna research today and try

534
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: to figure out what our strategy should actually be. But

535
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Speaker 1: it's my favorite support. I followed the closer than anything,

536
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Speaker 1: and I'm terrible at it. It's by the way, Chad,

537
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Speaker 1: you can tell, and people listening can tell that Steely

538
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: and I are friends. We talk a lot. I would

539
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Speaker 1: say like point three percent of our conversations are a

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00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: about golf, and seventies seven percent of our conversations are

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Speaker 1: about hockey. I mean, we're talking about hockey, We're talking

542
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: about fantasy football, like all the time, trying to figure

543
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: stuff out, and we're just banging our head against the wall.

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Speaker 1: All of the listen We've been doing a show on

545
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Speaker 1: Twitter called the twenty Action Network Hockey Betting Show because uh,

546
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Speaker 1: I won't bet more than twenty dollars on hockey because

547
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,359
Speaker 1: it seems like a miserable thing. And we will have

548
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: two of our hockey anal as Mike Leeboff and shown

549
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,879
Speaker 1: a realo joined me on the show and explain to

550
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Speaker 1: me what bet I should make that night from whatever

551
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: the slate is usually on Thursdays, and inevitably it ends

552
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: up being like the Detroit Red Rings plus one three,

553
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: And I swear to god we're gonna do it again

554
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: on Thursday, and Mike Leeboff is gonna tell me to

555
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: make a horrible, horrible hockey better. And if you look

556
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: at his his record in the Action Network gap, he's

557
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: probably like at a winning percentage of three seventy, but

558
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 1: he's up probably a hundred and fifty units because all

559
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: he does is hockey underdogs, which makes for a miserable, miserable,

560
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 1: horrible life. It really does. And I follow him very closely,

561
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 1: and it's the way that you have to do it

562
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: in order to win, because there's too much flock and

563
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: too much chaos going on out there. But it's not fun,

564
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 1: and you have to do it every day. You'd have

565
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,479
Speaker 1: to take the dogs every day and just keep wlacking

566
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Speaker 1: where you think there's value and just hoping that that

567
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,280
Speaker 1: it turns out good for you in the end. But

568
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: it is a miserable way to do it. Do you

569
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: keep up with it on tour? Like? Are you watching

570
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: hockey every night when you're done with you around or

571
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 1: like hanging out before you go into before the next day. Yeah,

572
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch hockey as much as I can,

573
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: and right now I'm I'm doing a lot better with

574
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: college basketball, so I'm watching a little bit more of that.

575
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: That's probably the sport I know least about, so that's

576
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: why I'm doing better. You were a huge hockey player

577
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: growing up, right, Like, wasn't that your original sport? No?

578
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 1: I didn't play any hockey, um, just baseball and soccer

579
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: growing up. That's a good question, though, Chad, to get

580
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Speaker 1: this far into the pod with it before you ask

581
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 1: question that you know I wasn't relevant at all. No,

582
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I was doing the research and

583
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: I feel like on the On the Mark podcast he

584
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: mentioned that he played hockey growing up, and maybe I

585
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 1: just misheard it, and he said he loves hockey growing up.

586
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: I got it wrong. Listen, it's fine. I do research

587
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: Winnipeg bets when he was like eight years old. And

588
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 1: that's how we got into the seriously, all right, before

589
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: we get to our last segment, before we get to

590
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: another thing, I want to bring back our podcast producer,

591
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 1: Mr Matt Mitchell, who has another brilliant segment extolling the

592
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: virtues of daytime gambling, this time with a very special guest. Hey,

593
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, Chad. I'm actually hanging out today at

594
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: a barbecue at the house of one of my dearest friends,

595
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: actor and typewriter enthusiast Tom Hanks. Tom, Tom, Tom, What

596
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: is it? What you're finish the hamburgers? I supposed to do?

597
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: Maga and Margarita. Well, whoa, whoa, whoa, settled down, settle down,

598
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: it's me. It's me. It's your uncle, Mitch. I love you, man,

599
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: you love me. I love you too. I gotta go wait, wait, wait, wait,

600
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: come back, come back. I know you're you know, sad,

601
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: because I said the movie Apollo thirteen totally sucks. But

602
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: I've got the perfect way to cheer your right up. Alright, alright, alright,

603
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: you tell me what I'm supposed to do. You tell

604
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: me what am I supposed to do. Let's gamble in

605
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 1: the afternoon. That's good. I'm relieved. That's great. I'm saved.

606
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: But still right. You think there's some kind of horrible catch,

607
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: but there's not, because we can bet on some old

608
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: guys in Newport Beach playing golf. I've got to do it.

609
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: I gotta be brave, I gotta jump in with both feet. Yes,

610
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: but why are you so sure? Because I have wasted

611
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: my entire life and I'm gonna die now. I have

612
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: a chance to die like a man, and I'm gonna

613
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: take it. I've got to take it. I was thinking

614
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: the exact same thing. I was talking with our golf

615
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: expert Josh Perry, and he Australian golfer Rod Pampling this

616
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: week on the PGA Tour Champions the Senior Tour. So

617
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna take Pampling in his first round matchup Thursday

618
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: with Robert Carlson, who looks like an aging Swedish superhero.

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Speaker 1: But the Pampling is good enough for Josh Perry, He's

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00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: good enough for us, right, Tom, I don't care, and

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00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: it means nothing to me. It's just a name. That's

622
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: my mission. It is our mission. Daytime gambling is always

623
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 1: the mission. That's right. I'm glad you agree. Well, my manager,

624
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: Chad Noman, actually said that betting during the day made

625
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 1: me a shitty producer. Oh yeah, great, that it's funny

626
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,719
Speaker 1: to you. I had to sneak off into the bathroom

627
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: and have a good cry. My manager called me, I

628
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: talk and find him a pig ship and did I cry?

629
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: Oh now, you're Mr. Tough guy. Well you wouldn't act

630
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: so tough if you saw that nude selfie Chad was

631
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: senting around last week. I saw it, and it's scared

632
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: the ship out of me. It's ship out of every

633
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: man in America. Oh yeah, it sounds like you definitely

634
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: saw it. Well, I'm delighted that you'll love be joining

635
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: me here on this little afternoon gambling adventure because I've

636
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: always been a little suspicious of any you know, paranoid

637
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 1: lunatic could rather work all day than make a bat.

638
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Speaker 1: So you're welcome. Tom God, you don't know when to

639
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: quit doing. Look at me. I'm a shot off a

640
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: man because of you. We're the ones who lighting fires

641
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 1: we're are the ones where I think suspicious, that paradoise

642
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: where the load of us. Maybe you're right, but we'll

643
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 1: get rich pretty soon. Betton Royals Day games all year round,

644
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: so don't worry. Tom. Yes, back to you, Chad. Alright,

645
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 1: our last segment. Let's get to another thing, another thing.

646
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: So well, you had a great anecdote in your story

647
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: coming out of the Hound of Classic this weekend, in

648
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: which you were trailing Brendan the whole time and he

649
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: told you something really cool just as the round was starting,

650
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: set it up, and then let Brendan finishing. So the

651
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: whole story is that I brought a buddy. We have

652
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: a d f S open this past week in a

653
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: buddy of mine that I play a lot of golf with,

654
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: also named Jason S. I got some tickets through Steely

655
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: and I text my buddy said, hey, you're all set

656
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 1: with tickets. Will be good. He texts back thirty seconds

657
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: later a screenshot putting a hundred bucks on steel at

658
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: a hundred to one, and you know, that's a good

659
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: little payday. And all of a sudden he gets into

660
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: contention and now it's like, all right, let's go. We

661
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: gott a weekend sweat, and so we're very invested in

662
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: what steal. I'm always invest in what Steel is doing.

663
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: But in any case, I'm following him during the final

664
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: round and he's playing with Tommy Fleetwood and last pairing

665
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: down by one stroke going into uh the last day,

666
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: and Tommy goes out and Bertie's the first and Bertie's

667
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: the second, and we get to the third tea and

668
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to make it sound like, you know,

669
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 1: like yes, I'm rooting for Steel. It's a weird situation

670
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: where I'm a journalist. I'm standing there, I'm just watching.

671
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to create any sort of environment where

672
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: I you know, I want one to win over the

673
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: others and that. But I also know that I've been

674
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: out there enough with him that I know what to

675
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: say to you in certain situations. And you made a

676
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: couple of bars. Wasn't bad, But you know, you're twenty

677
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: minutes and you're down three after being down one, and

678
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: so basically I turned you. Walking off to Green, I said,

679
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: you know, stamp coasts out six eight weeks, so oh really,

680
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: And we started talking hockey for a minute. And we're

681
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: still waiting on the tea box for five minutes till

682
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: a couple of other stories we can't tell, and then

683
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: he said, hey, do you want to know my strategy

684
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: for today? Sure, if you want to divulge it right

685
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: here on the tea box. And so the strategy was,

686
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: since I was down three already, I was gonna try

687
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: to be patient, try to do the fill thing, try

688
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: to wait back. And I knew that the golf course

689
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: was so difficult that it was very unlikely that Tommy

690
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: was going to go shoot six under par and just

691
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: run away and win the tournament. And if he did,

692
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: that's fine, Like if I can't match that, I can't

693
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: match it. But I wanted to have a chance on

694
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 1: the last few holes that have water everywhere and talor

695
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: and things go on nuts, that I could make a

696
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: couple of good swings that could flip it and give

697
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: me a chance to win. So I just wanted to

698
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: be within striking distance once we got to the last

699
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: three or four holes, and as Sobel said to me later,

700
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 1: it unfortunately it happened a little too quick, because I

701
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 1: ended up tied for the lead after like six or seven.

702
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: So it flipped around where I was tied to the

703
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: lead pretty quick, and then I was kind of just

704
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: hanging on, hanging on, and then I had a chance

705
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: on the last three holes and I just didn't quite

706
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't quite able to count. So the strategy worked

707
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: until I didn't hit the shots right at the end.

708
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: But there was also a great anecdote from the story.

709
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: Sobel wrote about in those last few holes sort of

710
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: an approach that you took when you were making sort

711
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: of a shot that you felt like you you had

712
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: to make explain like the mental process and what that

713
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: shot was. Yeah, so on on eighteen, you need to

714
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: make an eagle to get into a playoffs. Sunday MS

715
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: already in at six under. On at four under, the

716
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: pin stuck pretty far right, there's water on the right.

717
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: I don't really have a club that can end up

718
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: in a good spot for that that shot. Just with

719
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: the distance that I had and everything, I would all

720
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: like to be a lot further back or a lot closer.

721
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: And so I was talking to my caddy and I

722
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: was like, well, I know I can hit this shot,

723
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: It's just obviously very risky. And uh. We decided that

724
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: you don't get a chance to win golf tournaments very often,

725
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: and we needed to try to get it up there

726
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,800
Speaker 1: somewhere to where we could maybe hold a chip or

727
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 1: a bunker shot or something. So I hit this slap

728
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: slice three wood, trying to get take probably twenty yards

729
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: off my three wood and get it moving towards the flag.

730
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: I pulled it off, except it started a little too

731
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: far right in one of the water. See what's amazing

732
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: to me? So like in that moment, you're thinking it's

733
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: better to risk coming in, Say you came in fourth

734
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: I think in the tournament, right, so it's better to

735
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 1: risk coming in fourth, fifth, whatever, then taking the safe

736
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: fruit and guaranteeing maybe you're gonna come in second or third. Yeah,

737
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: as it turned out, a part would have given me third,

738
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: and a birdie would have given me second time for second.

739
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: But you know, you just don't get that many chances

740
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: out here to try to win, especially on the last whole.

741
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: I mean, you're normally, if you're going to finish fourth

742
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: or fifth, a lot of the time you're four five

743
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: shops back. So for me to finish fourth and and

744
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: have that chance on eighteen, it was too good an

745
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to pass up. And and I've I've gotten off

746
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 1: to a good start this year. Um, I lost in

747
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: a playoff at Sony, so I don't have to worry

748
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: about keeping my card or anything like that. So we

749
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: were just like, we're going for the goose, so we're

750
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: trying to get those wins. That's what's really important about her. God,

751
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: that must matter so much to know that you have

752
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: your card. You're kind of playing with house money a

753
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah for sure. I mean it ended up

754
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: costing me world ranking points, CADEX cup points, my you know,

755
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: all these different things. But I've gotten so many messages

756
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: from friends and people watching me that are saying, I'm

757
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: so glad you tried to hit that shot. Even my

758
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: wife said afterwards, she was like, I'm so glad you

759
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: tried to hit because you just you just want to

760
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: give yourself an opportunity. And and I think all my

761
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: friends and stuff, they're just telling me that they're they're happy,

762
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: because that means that I'm confident and relaxed and like

763
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: going for it rather than just playing it. Say, Chad,

764
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: let me tell you about and we always talk about

765
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: all sports being games of inches, and you know, hey,

766
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: just a little thing goes wrong here, a little thing

767
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: goes right there, and make all the difference. I mean,

768
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: I've for a long time talked about sort of the

769
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: domino and effect in golf. I mean, you can make

770
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 1: one more put in March and then come in one

771
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: instead of one twenty six at the end of the

772
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 1: year and keep your car, and then the next year

773
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 1: you win instead of being on the corn Ferry Tour

774
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,479
Speaker 1: or something like that. I can tell you a story

775
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 1: that the only other player I've caddied for professionally Roland,

776
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: Thatchers like did Getty stealing in one round like caddy

777
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: the tournament for rolling Thatcher back when he was playing

778
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: the web dot com when it was still called that

779
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: and Roland got got to the PJA Tour is a

780
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: good player. The year that Mark Leishman won in Connecticut

781
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: was probably about eight nine, ten years ago something like that.

782
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: And rolling out a chance you need to make Bertie

783
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: on eighteen and I swear I was standing out there

784
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 1: about a hundred and fifty yards in and I'm saying,

785
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: about halfway between him and the green, and he hits

786
00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: it and a gust of wind picks up right as

787
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: he's swing it knocks his ball into the front bunker. Well,

788
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: now he still needs to make a birdie to force

789
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: a playoff, and so he gets really aggressive with the

790
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: bunker shot. It skips away, past, goes twenty ft past.

791
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: Now he two butts. He makes bogey instead of hey,

792
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: just go down there and make a bar. He finished

793
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: in second place, keeps his card, makes lots of money,

794
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: he's happy. Instead he fished the shriff. I believe it

795
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: was third or fourth place, basic on the fact that

796
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: he made bogey and was aggressive and went for it

797
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: as well he should have with a tournament on the line.

798
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: Lost his card that year. I'm not sure he ever

799
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: got it back, and if he did, he didn't get

800
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: it back for very long. I mean literally, it was

801
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: a breath of wind that hit his ball in the

802
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: air that can make all the difference. That story makes

803
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: me sit to my stomach. There are so many parallels

804
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: between professional golf and gambling. Do I take a chance

805
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 1: and hope that it comes up, or do I do

806
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: I play it safe and not go for it. That's

807
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: golf and that's gambling. That's Tim Cup. Absolutely, you know,

808
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: going back to the beginning, Jason says, you know you're

809
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: coddled and whatever, but and that golfers have it easier

810
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,720
Speaker 1: than other athletes. I don't think so, because everyone always

811
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: forgets that, Like golfers have to pay for everything. Yeah,

812
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: you get sponsors and things like that, but you have

813
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:11,840
Speaker 1: to be paying for your house, and you're paying for

814
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: your travel, you're paying for your coaches. There's an entire

815
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: network that exists based on you going out and winning,

816
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: and you have to keep playing for your card every year.

817
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: All of it is again, but the fact that, like

818
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: you're the only one remaining from your buddies who are

819
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: playing in the Canadian Tour and the fact that you're

820
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: willing to go for it, you know, on a what

821
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: needs to be the most exquisite shot you're gonna shoot

822
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: over a four day tournament, is why you're still playing,

823
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: I would think. Yeah. I mean, it's also a true meritocracy.

824
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: It's not subjective at all. It's what sword did you

825
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: shoot and that's how much money you'll get paid or not.

826
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: So this is not any let's sign sign a contract

827
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: with the PGA Tour to make ten million this year.

828
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,719
Speaker 1: It's you can go out and win the FedEx Cup

829
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 1: and win ten million, but you may play bad and

830
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: not make anything. It's all up to you. Brenda was

831
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: probably gonna make it on tour no matter what he

832
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: had the talent, I would say the the highest level.

833
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,560
Speaker 1: At some point, you catch that break. You kind of

834
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: make your own luck. You catch a break and you

835
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: move up just because you're good enough. I play with

836
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: pros all the time, and they're varying levels of professionals,

837
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: And I don't think a lot of non golf fans

838
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: realized just how many different levels of professional golfers there are.

839
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: But I play with guys who are playing Moonlight Tour

840
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: events throughout Florida and playing like one day ors and

841
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: two days and just trying to cash a check somewhere

842
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: so they can go play again somewhere else. I mean,

843
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: they're they're really living check to check in tournament to tournament.

844
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: And the difference between one of those guys the guy

845
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: playing let's say the Corn Ferry Tour, which is basically

846
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 1: Triple A Baseball for the p g A Tour, the

847
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: difference is not that one guy is so much better

848
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 1: than the other guy. It's just that he played better

849
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: at the right time, he caught some breaks, he got

850
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: a little bit luckier. I mean, that's basically the game.

851
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: You could say that probably about any other sport as well,

852
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 1: but it really is that way a golf Brandon. Here's

853
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: what I think. I don't know what Phil Nicholson likes

854
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: to gamble at all. There's not really anything written about that.

855
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: But I will say that the story Sobel told earlier

856
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: in the day about Phil sort of playing with a

857
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: guy on Tuesday who wouldn't up the stakes because he

858
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: didn't like to play for money, it's obvious why he

859
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: likes to play with you on the Tuesday games, because

860
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: you got balls and you're going for it. That's what

861
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 1: I would say. Nice work, well, thank you, I appreciate it.

862
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: But I mean everything that Phil does, you can see it.

863
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 1: The way he plays. He plays to win. He takes

864
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: on all the risk. That's the way he's always done it.

865
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 1: That's why he's so popular out here, and that's why

866
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: he's won so much. So he's gonna have his failures.

867
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: He's gonna have times when he doesn't pull the shot off,

868
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: but he always gives himself that chance to hit the shot,

869
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: like on thirteen at Dagasta. You know that's always going

870
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: to be in his d n A. And I've tried

871
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: to learn from that as much as I can, but

872
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: it's difficult. Also, you've got huge balls just for coming

873
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: on this podcast. It's always a risky proposition, very risky.

874
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: Brendan Steele, Jason Sobel, thanks so much for coming on, guys,

875
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, as promised. Up next on the

876
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Speaker 1: Favorites podcast, Social Media sensation comedy impression genius Joey Molinaro

877
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: is on the phone right now. Joey, you have had

878
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: a whirlwind, if i'd say, a month, where you are

879
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: racking up these kind of views for doing impressions of

880
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: everything from famous guys in sports, funny videos. Tell people

881
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 1: how this started for you? Really? Well, thanks for having

882
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: me to chats NICs to to talk to you, you

883
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,839
Speaker 1: know here after you're connecting for a while. But um, really,

884
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,919
Speaker 1: I've been doing this for a long time in terms

885
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: of making funny videos and doing skits, and I've been

886
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: doing it for at least three years kind of publicly

887
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: trying to build some things, um and then impersonations. I've

888
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: been doing them since I was a kid. Now they

889
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: weren't of well known people or public figures, but I've

890
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: been known as somebody who you know would get the

891
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: knocked down for doing voices and and and things like

892
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: that for a long time. So really, um, you know,

893
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: in the last six months seven months, but like you said,

894
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: especially since they started the calendar year in, everything's just

895
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: really started to pick up. So you live in Indie.

896
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: We've talked about this. I'm gonna eye you, Alum. So

897
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: I always get excited when, like, I'm talking to someone

898
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: who's making good from the state of Indiana. What do

899
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: you do in Indie? Tell people what you do? Yes,

900
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: My day job is I work for UM one of

901
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 1: seven five the fan in Indianapolis. It's our ESPN affiliate

902
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: here in town. So it's like where the home of

903
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: the Pacers and the Colts, you know. We have UM

904
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 1: weekday talk shows. I host a weekend show on that station.

905
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: But then during the week I'm just writing for the website,

906
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: doing social media posts. Not have a weekly YouTube series

907
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: that I do here. So that's the day job that

908
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, keeps keeps the roof over the head, as

909
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,799
Speaker 1: they say, and you make a lot of fun. I'm

910
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: starting to now, Yeah, we're on good terms. He likes me,

911
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: you know, he can be a tough cookie to crack,

912
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: so UM and now I can have a little bit

913
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: of fun with them. Yeah, so when you started doing this,

914
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: what was people's response when you started doing some of

915
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:11,279
Speaker 1: the bigger names impressions? Mostly good people enjoy them and

916
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: have fun with them, and um, you know, that's what

917
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: I'm out to do, is just make people laugh. And

918
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: I don't ever try to do impressions that you make

919
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,879
Speaker 1: people look bad or put them in a bad light.

920
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: You know. I just like to have fun with it.

921
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: I just like to do kind of a sketch comedy

922
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: feel with it. And I haven't really had too much

923
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 1: negative feedback. You know. If I do have negative feedback,

924
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: it's from a fan base that maybe is upset about

925
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: other things involving their team, but then they just kind

926
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: of lash out and take it out on me. But

927
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: actually interviewed, uh, you know, Nick Saban is one of

928
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:39,839
Speaker 1: the guys that I that I do and I've been

929
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: known to do. I interviewed his daughter on my my

930
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 1: show here this week and was just trying to you know,

931
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: if I can't get coach Saban to get his daughter

932
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: and he kind of talk about that. So, Yeah, it's

933
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: been fun. So what's happened that since like the beginning

934
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: of the year that you think made this blow up

935
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: a little bit. I don't know. I think that, um,

936
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, give myself alot credit. I think that the

937
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: reason that they do so well so often is because

938
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: I want to try to impersonate or capture people that

939
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: haven't been impersonated or captured that much, right, you know,

940
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: I mean Frank Calion. Though he's been great to me,

941
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: he's a definitely a huge influence. Like now I consider

942
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: him a mentor and a friend, but he's nailed down

943
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: a lot of people that now anytime that somebody does

944
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: an impression of those people, say John Gruden or say

945
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 1: I mean John Madnya. I mean, there's so many people

946
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: kind of think of him. So I think that's one

947
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: thing is I've tried to do people that haven't necessarily

948
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: been been impersonated too often. And then I think another

949
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 1: thing is the situations that I put them in a

950
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: right So Nick Salmon talking to his daughter about math,

951
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: there's automatically comedy built in there. Then the impression on

952
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 1: top of it is just kind of a bonus at

953
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 1: that point, and I think that that recipe has has

954
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 1: really done well. And then the fact that you know,

955
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: I tried to take pride in not just doing impressions.

956
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: You know, I tried to put out regular skits and

957
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 1: videos that are just different characters that I come up with.

958
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: There are are different skits that don't have anything to

959
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: do with impressions. Yeah. Well, that's what I was gonna say,

960
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: is like, some of the things that have really blown

961
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: up have been the video of you coming out and

962
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: you've got your comedy partner doing an interview with you

963
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: in the middle of like classes, right, which is just

964
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: hilariously funny because I think about what one of my

965
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: you know, one of my kids in high school, and

966
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: the way you describe sort of getting energy from the

967
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: kids and later in the day is just freaking hilarious.

968
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, that's what I stripped for, is just

969
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: trying to be as creative as possible. I have as

970
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 1: much fun but as I can. You know, I always

971
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 1: say no offense to my mom, but like she you know,

972
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: she doesn't like the Beatles, right, so in my mind,

973
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: and Mike who doesn't like the Beatles, right, So there's

974
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 1: there's always going to be people out there have negative

975
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: things to say. But for the most part, you know,

976
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: it's been great, and so we've talked a little bit

977
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: about you know, you're from Indie and you're a sports fan,

978
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 1: you know your way around betting a little bit. Obviously

979
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: sports betting becoming more and more popular. Obviously sports betting

980
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: not legal in Indiana. We had talked about you doing

981
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: an impression of like Gus Johnson when all of a

982
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: sudden the game that he's broadcasting, it's really about who's

983
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: gonna cover or whether or not the total is gonna

984
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 1: go over the spread, and what that looks like if

985
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: there's like three minutes left and he's super excited and

986
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with the way the game ends,

987
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: it's just about covering the total for sure. We want

988
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 1: to give him a shot. Let's give it a shot, man,

989
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: Let's have Gus set the scene. Let's see what happens.

990
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: This is a brand new experiment. We've never tried this

991
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: before in the favorite, so I don't really know how

992
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 1: to do it. So let's see if like you can

993
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: set the scene and the boiler makerself a rivalry contest

994
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: on flock sports one, here comes the Hostess, sixty seven

995
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 1: three and a half minutes left to play the ober

996
00:46:54,760 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: set at one board. Joey Bronk inside, they missed. Here

997
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:05,880
Speaker 1: comes no Cell Eastern Eastern going east to west west coast,

998
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: coming no Cell Eastern. I got it, in got it,

999
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: he got it. Sixty nine six D eight boilers with

1000
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 1: the League Assembly whole rocking. Ha. Here come the Hosers,

1001
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: No Ho Ho Hosers, rocking and socking on the home floor.

1002
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: Robert Fantasy fantasy shaking bacon looking like Talladega nice shaking

1003
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: bacon fantasy for the three. Oh god it that's the offer.

1004
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: Three minutes left. But I'm slim play hole and you're

1005
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:50,879
Speaker 1: going home making money. I'm just Jopson. Oh my god.

1006
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: That was just brilliant. That was brilliant. I'm ready to

1007
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: go again. That was great. I like to us that

1008
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: was so funny. So like when you're going through that,

1009
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: how much is coming to you? Like in the moment,

1010
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: all in the moment, man, I just And that's one

1011
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: of my favorite things, is like really trying to embody

1012
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: this person, you know what I mean, Like, even if

1013
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,879
Speaker 1: it's not exactly something they'd say, it's still the fun

1014
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: of it. Of Gus Johnson just who knows what the

1015
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: hell he's talking about? Right, like tal diggon Nights. Three

1016
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 1: minutes left, to go, but he would say that like

1017
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,800
Speaker 1: you would. You just don't know. So that's part of

1018
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: impersonation too, especially on the spot, is like you gotta

1019
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 1: just roll with it. You can't stumble on yourself or

1020
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: think about it too much because then if you do,

1021
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: then you you break character in your screw. Yeah, I

1022
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: gotta say you're a pro. The fact you were able

1023
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: to sort of ramp up to that and on the

1024
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 1: spot like flip the idea because we had had a

1025
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: different idea entirely unbelievably impressive. Really appreciate it, Glad, Like

1026
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: you're following skyrocketing and more and more people are paying attention.

1027
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: Joey Molinaro, brilliant impressionist. Thank you for coming on the Favorites.

1028
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: Thanks Chad, there was a lot of fun guys, talk

1029
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: to you soon. As always, we're going to close with

1030
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: some inspirational words from our leader, our CEO at the

1031
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 1: Action Network, Mr Patrick King. You do not hand in

1032
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: trapped like this. I should fire you and burn down

1033
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: your fricket house. Another exciting show this has been The

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