WEBVTT - Zuri Adele

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<v Speaker 1>Zuri Adele is best known for her betrayal of series

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<v Speaker 1>regular Molika on the award winning TV series Good Trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>Now in its fifth season, tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>about where your story began. You know, it really starts

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<v Speaker 1>with just being raised and brought into the world by

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<v Speaker 1>parents who are artists themselves and who just really were

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<v Speaker 1>steeped in the liberation of people of African descent, and

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<v Speaker 1>just being in that household where there was like this

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<v Speaker 1>additional curriculum of like learning about our power and our

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<v Speaker 1>our knowledge, and having this free space to perform, like

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<v Speaker 1>being around my mom and drum circles and my dad

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<v Speaker 1>being a performance poet, and just having a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>nurturing to really express myself. And I always wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>take a stand and where education was also really important,

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<v Speaker 1>and I can tell that has fully informed like me

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<v Speaker 1>becoming this self proclaimed storyteller grio who I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>I am, and I'm really grateful to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>embody and share stories through my voice and body. That

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<v Speaker 1>leads to that type of liberation work, that abolition work.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the whole gist of it, where like it's

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<v Speaker 1>this combination of like community and expression through performance art

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<v Speaker 1>with this intention of collective liberation, and that's like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the womb I was brought up in. When you were

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<v Speaker 1>a young girl, did you think you would grow up

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<v Speaker 1>and be a storyteller? I knew I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>express with my voice and with my body. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know what that was, but I wasn't blessed with the

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<v Speaker 1>singing talent, so it's just kind of but no, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what it really was is that I wanted to be everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I would watch something on TV or go to

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<v Speaker 1>a play and I was like, I want to be

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<v Speaker 1>a princess. Oh, I want to be a doctor. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be a lawyer. Oh maybe I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do all of these things, and sort of the fomo

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<v Speaker 1>of it all lead me to want to portray all

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<v Speaker 1>of like learn all of these life perspectives and portray

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<v Speaker 1>them on screen or on stage. Like maybe that's a

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<v Speaker 1>noncommittal version of me too, because it's like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to take it home, but for three yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can do some research. I can learn about this perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>I can be you for three months. Yeah, all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>If you ever feel though, like I wish I had

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<v Speaker 1>pursued a career in law or a career in politics

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<v Speaker 1>or anything else, or are you always satisfied with where

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<v Speaker 1>you landed, I'm really satisfied and excited about where I ended,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am without any regrets. I am really excited

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<v Speaker 1>to keep learning more so now that, like, at first,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of my acting was in like self expression

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<v Speaker 1>and storytelling was in the former theater and the stage

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<v Speaker 1>and the live audience experience. And now that I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of experience on the camera and television, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>craving to learn even more about filmmaking and directing and

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<v Speaker 1>producing because I'm like, this machine is phenomenal, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to know more and more about like and it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it has such a large reach, like motion picture

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<v Speaker 1>is such a tool for like socio economic change and

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<v Speaker 1>it reaches, it can reach so far so quickly that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to learn more now about the behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes work of how that happens. So no regrets, but

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<v Speaker 1>I am like, oh, now I now I want to

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<v Speaker 1>learn more how to produce, and now I want to

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<v Speaker 1>shadow a few directors and learn that, and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to learn how like the money moves to make all

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<v Speaker 1>these things happen. So yeah, we just spoke with amazing

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<v Speaker 1>and it's amazing to hear nine year old talk about

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<v Speaker 1>her career in the present tense. So I'll give you

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of grace here, but like, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think your career will look like when you're seventy

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<v Speaker 1>When I'm seventy five, I will be I will for

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<v Speaker 1>sure be letting my voice and body to tell as

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<v Speaker 1>many stories through that seventy five year young body that

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<v Speaker 1>can be told, and I'll be producing and directing content

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<v Speaker 1>that feels like it's liberating, uplifting, all in all the

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<v Speaker 1>ways that I wanted to. I'll be Boston around, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to be out of the and hopefully it'll be like

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<v Speaker 1>on Good Trouble, Like I have this dream that Good

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<v Speaker 1>Trouble is going to be like the Gray's anatomy vibe.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, let me get my Debbie Allen on

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, be this producer on there and and

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<v Speaker 1>bring these new generations into the show. So, like I

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<v Speaker 1>pray when I'm seventy five, there's something going on there

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<v Speaker 1>or at least something that's like an extension of that

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<v Speaker 1>type of storytelling where we're focused on activism and abolition.

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<v Speaker 1>And my daughter, who is a young activist, she and

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<v Speaker 1>I watch your show together. We love it. What would

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<v Speaker 1>you say to a teenager growing up today, given the

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<v Speaker 1>possibilities and also sort of the angst that has gone

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<v Speaker 1>into a world in which everyone is so aware, HyperWare

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<v Speaker 1>has access to so much information. I would say, trust yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>trust your instincts, trust your inner voice. Like we've learned

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<v Speaker 1>so much through that generation that we can uproot any

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<v Speaker 1>system that is harmful, and we can take action in

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<v Speaker 1>really creative and new ways we can reach people and

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<v Speaker 1>really unconventional ways with our work and our content. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I would just continue to tell that generation like,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, and trust your instincts, trust your self awareness,

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<v Speaker 1>Like keep following that yellow brick road of your voice. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so you're a storyteller, if you could put your career

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<v Speaker 1>story into three words, what would they be? Undaunted by

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<v Speaker 1>the fight? I know it was for I know still

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<v Speaker 1>I rise. I love it. That's amazing. So you wake

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<v Speaker 1>up every morning, and what do you do first? What's

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<v Speaker 1>your routine? As best as I can, I read a

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<v Speaker 1>morning devotional and like a daily devotional, sort of get

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<v Speaker 1>my head in the game and meditate and then right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I have two puppies, so I'll take them outside, do

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<v Speaker 1>a little snuggles and um. Always I usually do like

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<v Speaker 1>a martial arts training in the morning if I can,

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<v Speaker 1>or I'll just meditate and go to work if I

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<v Speaker 1>have like an early call time, but something where like

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a practice of sorts where I'm like grounding and

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<v Speaker 1>hearing from the source about how we're gonna stay you know,

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<v Speaker 1>present for the day. How do you find a way

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<v Speaker 1>to stay connected to the source, the universe, God, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>we call it in a really noisy world. I go,

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<v Speaker 1>I start with my body, like I do a body scan.

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<v Speaker 1>I make sure I can feel, you know, the air

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<v Speaker 1>hit my skin, a seat beneath me, my feet in

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. It could be on the subway, it could

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<v Speaker 1>be anywhere. But just like start with where the body

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<v Speaker 1>is and where the breath is. And that helped me really,

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<v Speaker 1>like we all just took a breath right now. That

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<v Speaker 1>just helps me get present. It's so interesting. Someone said

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<v Speaker 1>this to me the other day because I've always thought

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<v Speaker 1>of myself as the world's worst meditator, saeb. My brain

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<v Speaker 1>is always going. But that's like the practice it is,

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and let it flow, let the tabs be open.

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<v Speaker 1>If someone explain to me that, truly, in the whole world,

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<v Speaker 1>your breath is the only thing that has to live

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<v Speaker 1>in the present. Oh, that's why we focus on That's

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<v Speaker 1>good even I like that baby's gallery of time spelling

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<v Speaker 1>being cross where that's yeah, that is a meditation. You're

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<v Speaker 1>getting your breath. Yeah, you're strategizing. Yeah, you're having quality

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<v Speaker 1>time with yourself. You're unplugged and plugged in. No, that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you get your brains. Yeah, yeah, you're wu woo.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't try to hide it out. OK. So how did

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<v Speaker 1>you land your role on Good Trouble? Oh? So I

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<v Speaker 1>it was this audition process. So you know how Good

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<v Speaker 1>Trouble is the spinoff of the Fosters. So I had

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<v Speaker 1>audition for a role on the season finale of The

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<v Speaker 1>Fosters a couple of times, and I was excited about

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<v Speaker 1>it and didn't end up booking it. And then I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a few months later, had this audition for

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<v Speaker 1>this untitled Foster spinoff I think it's what they called,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh God, it booked that just

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<v Speaker 1>in case there was overlap, and um yeah. There were

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<v Speaker 1>four rounds think four or five rounds of auditions, and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone in the audition room was like looked so different.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, everyone was a black woman. It had like

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<v Speaker 1>a different you know, body type or energy or um.

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<v Speaker 1>There were just so many different forms of self expression.

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<v Speaker 1>And I loved how inclusive the character description of Molika was.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm just so grateful I was in for all

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<v Speaker 1>the divine reasons. I guess like we were that character

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<v Speaker 1>and I were soul made. And I just kept coming

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<v Speaker 1>back for round after round with the producers and the

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<v Speaker 1>network and each actor, like as we narrowed it down

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<v Speaker 1>to like the final three, each one was so talented

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<v Speaker 1>that we were like cheering each other on. We were like,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's because we were all so different, we just

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<v Speaker 1>all have really different like temperaments. It was like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if that's Molika, then that's Molika, like and it's me

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<v Speaker 1>that it was just like, oh, at this point, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not about talent. So it really also developed like this

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<v Speaker 1>really cool sense of like sisterhood and yeah, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was keep the other two I do. Well, there's one

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<v Speaker 1>of them was already a friend of mine, which was

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<v Speaker 1>really amazing, and yeah, she's doing so great, she's her

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<v Speaker 1>career is incredible. So yeah, we keep in touch. Audition. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so in particular for TV, you know, you received the script. Besides,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes you receive also the script of like the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of the episode or or the rest of the film,

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<v Speaker 1>and you may get less than twenty four hours, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you get forty eight hours to prepare it. It could

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<v Speaker 1>be sometimes it's like a couple of pages, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>it's usually like ten pages, and just prepare it and

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<v Speaker 1>study as much as you can and film it with

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<v Speaker 1>a friend like Sean who helps me with my auditions

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<v Speaker 1>all the time and makes them so great and stretches

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<v Speaker 1>me and pushes me, and it's helped me find the

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<v Speaker 1>joy and the playfulness and like working with friends and

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<v Speaker 1>just trying not to see it as like okay, let's

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<v Speaker 1>put this job as much as like, oh, we get

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<v Speaker 1>to workshop and play with this thing today, and well

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<v Speaker 1>that's right now because it's on tape because of COVID.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we used to go into the audition room

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<v Speaker 1>and audition for the casting directors and eat them. And

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<v Speaker 1>I do kind of like now being able to do

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<v Speaker 1>it from home and do it a few times and

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<v Speaker 1>choose my favorite one. But everyone has like a different

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<v Speaker 1>you know, preference on that, and then there are other

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<v Speaker 1>rounds where it's like, you know, if they want to

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<v Speaker 1>move forward, then then we go in and read with

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<v Speaker 1>the casting, you know, with the either the casting directors

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<v Speaker 1>and or the producers and the writers. And now I've

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<v Speaker 1>been on the other side of that a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more playing Melika, like where other characters will do a

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<v Speaker 1>chemistry read with me to like come into my story.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've learned that's helped me so much because I've learned, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone is so talented, like this is the reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>like someone will be cast have nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>by the time it gets to like the final three,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it just hasn't it doesn't have any it's

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<v Speaker 1>never personal um and that's helped me. The personalized like

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<v Speaker 1>the outcomes of my auditions and just used to have fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And now a quick break, you've succeeded in a career

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<v Speaker 1>that most don't. Yeah, why do you think that is?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still learning the answer to that, And thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for saying I've succeeded, because I don't think I see

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<v Speaker 1>it that way. I feel successful, but it's like I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm at the beginning of so many things

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<v Speaker 1>and still audition and not booking them, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all the things like good Trouble is like probably the

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<v Speaker 1>most recent audition I booked and I was five years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, I do think that it's because everything is

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<v Speaker 1>in divine order. I know you don't want to hear it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I really think yeah. But I also think

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<v Speaker 1>it's about the energy that we bring into a room.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like, how president you bring the best energy?

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, for everyone listening your outfit, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like Gaga over and I don't like, yeah

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<v Speaker 1>like that, so tell me about it and so describe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll describe it to our listeners. But it's silk and

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<v Speaker 1>it's matching, and is it one jumpsuit or is it

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<v Speaker 1>it's a two piece? But you know make um oh

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<v Speaker 1>for it's this West African company so amazing, Oh f

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<v Speaker 1>you you are e it is gorgeous. Yeah, yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>do really great like high Ways two piece, which I

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<v Speaker 1>love a set. I love it anyway. So in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of your own personal life, what are you doing on

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<v Speaker 1>the weekends or with friends or do you date? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about your your romance. Oh juicy, I'm spicy. Well, listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Our schedule is just so my work schedule is. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still learning, I think, because that's that's more of

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<v Speaker 1>an excuse than a reason. But I am still learning

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<v Speaker 1>how to balance like the ever constantly, ever changing demands

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<v Speaker 1>of my work schedule with a personal life. So I date.

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<v Speaker 1>I also just started working with a matchmaker and that's

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<v Speaker 1>been Yeah, that's been fun. So I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to I'm working on delegating everything. So I'm now

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<v Speaker 1>I'm delegating like we've had other guests. Great. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>been a fun ride because it's also just taught me

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<v Speaker 1>what I like and like what I'm attracted to and

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<v Speaker 1>then how I like to be treated. And it's also

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<v Speaker 1>really held me accountable to be honest about like if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling a second date or if I'm not, and

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<v Speaker 1>just to be clear and unapologetic about what I what

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<v Speaker 1>I like, which I love your question about like well

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<v Speaker 1>why is it that you are successful, because it's like damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to be humble. But also I think there

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<v Speaker 1>is something strong about saying like it is important the

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<v Speaker 1>energy that we bring into a space and like how

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<v Speaker 1>present we can be and how people feel when we leave.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they feel, you know, drained or do they feel

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<v Speaker 1>filled up? And I like to honor that, like I

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<v Speaker 1>do my best work to fill myself up so that

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<v Speaker 1>I can fill people up when I'm in the rooms.

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<v Speaker 1>And I do think that that has an impact on

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<v Speaker 1>my career. And I think you can be incredibly humble

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<v Speaker 1>and share about your success and other people see it

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<v Speaker 1>because yeah, what we don't need right right? Girls? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's women especially, it's so important, Like Amy

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<v Speaker 1>and I love to talk about women and money, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to make a lot of money. And people

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<v Speaker 1>are always like you just said that men never cover

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<v Speaker 1>their mouths, Like what, so talk to us about money

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<v Speaker 1>and your thoughts on money, where you time therapy? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're really okay, hold me accountable? Yeah, money, my relationship

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<v Speaker 1>with money is growing because I went so like when

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<v Speaker 1>I first booked Good Trouble, I was on food stamps.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just you know, I was making minimum wage,

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<v Speaker 1>working part time at a yoga studio and auditioning you

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<v Speaker 1>know at night and by the day, working out a

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<v Speaker 1>yoga studio by night. And because I had not booked

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<v Speaker 1>like guest Stars or other sort of like less consistent parts,

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<v Speaker 1>I went from what felt like zero to a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>when I both the series regular contract on Good Trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of like personal finance, like financial

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<v Speaker 1>literacy that I needed to learn in sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>crash course, and it's been imperative to have people around

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<v Speaker 1>me who I trust, who can guide me through that.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned a lot about saving, a lot about taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about like whatever we negotiate for ourselves is

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<v Speaker 1>really like like we'll really take home half of that

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<v Speaker 1>um by the time we you know, pay out our taxes,

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<v Speaker 1>pay out our teams, all of that. To keep those

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<v Speaker 1>things in mind and to invest. And I'm still in

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<v Speaker 1>a crash course, but my relationship with money has really

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<v Speaker 1>stretched me lately to remember that there is no lack

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, it's always like, well, is this the

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<v Speaker 1>last season or are we gonna have more? Should I

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<v Speaker 1>save up? Am I not gonna work for a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years? And so it's had me have a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of like a scarcity mindset sometimes, like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>ever want to go back to where I was again.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a free mindset. I mean that's a thing

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<v Speaker 1>that yeah, the corporate salary on that journey. And then

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<v Speaker 1>it's also like I like nice things, and because my

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<v Speaker 1>schedule is the way it is now, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>delegate a lot of things, and so that costs even

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<v Speaker 1>more money, but it helps me show up so full

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<v Speaker 1>at work. And then when I show up full at work,

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<v Speaker 1>I make more money because I booked more jobs and okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now I got to delegate more. So it has taught

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<v Speaker 1>me that there is this cycle that comes right back

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<v Speaker 1>to me. You were in my therapy session. Yeah, my

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<v Speaker 1>purpose is gonna be very happy. She asked me that question.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no sh would do like a quick speed round.

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<v Speaker 1>What book are you reading? Speak up by tune day,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh your name? What is your favorite beverage? Charl with

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<v Speaker 1>oat milk and a little goving. Where are you taking

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<v Speaker 1>your next Vacation Barbados, Who leaves you star struck? Oh

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<v Speaker 1>we all star struck, but I do leave me starstruckank you?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so Amy. Good Trouble was one of the

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<v Speaker 1>shows that Ellen and I watched together, and she just

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<v Speaker 1>goes gaga oversary. She thinks she's the disknees and I

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<v Speaker 1>understand why. She's incredibly charismatic and thoughtful and really smart,

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<v Speaker 1>very smart, and she's definitely one of those people you

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<v Speaker 1>meet and you and meetly want to be friends and

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<v Speaker 1>hang out and want her to succeed because she's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those really rare individuals that seems super kind and

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<v Speaker 1>ambitious and interesting, like it's a mix you don't see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Well. I love the fact that she's an activist.

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<v Speaker 1>You get the sense that she's not going to take

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<v Speaker 1>on a role where she doesn't believe in the ethos

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<v Speaker 1>of the show. And I think that that also is

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<v Speaker 1>rare in Hollywood. When it's so hard. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 1>heard her story, it's just so hard to make it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I found her story really inspiring and it made

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<v Speaker 1>you think, like, if you're out there and you've gone

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<v Speaker 1>all these rejections, all it takes is one right one yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're in business, whether you're in theater. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>one yes that can change your life absolutely, and so

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<v Speaker 1>the point is to keep going until you hear the yes.

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