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Speaker 1: The issues were clear going into election day. It was

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Speaker 1: something that should be publicized. Tom Cotton just did something

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Speaker 1: that was very interesting. Tom Cotton really kind of dropped

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Speaker 1: the mic on the woke Kroger CEO for running two

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Speaker 1: Republicans to save his merger from Democrats, who he basically said, no,

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Speaker 1: we don't like it. Now, Kroger is trying to buy Albertson's,

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Speaker 1: and Kroger has run to the Republicans hoping that they

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Speaker 1: would rescue them and their merger. Now, this is the

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Speaker 1: woke company that's doing this. Kroger announced in October plans

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Speaker 1: to acquire Albertson's for twenty four point six billion dollars. Now,

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Speaker 1: Just want that to be very clear. It immediately triggered

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Speaker 1: monopoly concerns. It triggered in a trust concerns. It especially

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Speaker 1: concerns as they claim that Kroger is not doing enough

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Speaker 1: good enough job having stores in high poverty, high crime areas,

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Speaker 1: minority communities. Now, Kroger is the nation's second largest grocery

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Speaker 1: store chain and Albertson's is the fourth largest. So this

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Speaker 1: is going to kill a lot of competition. Now, if

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Speaker 1: this acquisition where approved, Kroger could potentially then rival Walmart.

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Speaker 1: So there was a hearing this week before the Senate

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Speaker 1: Judiciary Subcommittee on Competition Policy, Antitrust, and Consumer Rights, and

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Speaker 1: Cenator Cotton blasted the Kroger CEO for running to Republicans

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Speaker 1: for support while at the same time in acting woke

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Speaker 1: corporate policies. Now, specifically, Centator Cotton grilled the Kroger CEO

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Speaker 1: McMullan over a religious discrimination lawsuit the federal government brought

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Speaker 1: against his company for forcing two Arkansas employees to wear

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Speaker 1: a uniform with a rainbow heart on it. That's the

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Speaker 1: LGBTQ symbol. The employees were eventually fired because they refused

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Speaker 1: to wear a uniform with the LGBTQ symbol on it.

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Speaker 1: Now in October, Kroger settled a religious discrimination lawsuit filed

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Speaker 1: by the US Equal Employment Opportunity Commission on behalf of

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Speaker 1: the fired employees. I want you to hear this back

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Speaker 1: and forth because this is where you can actually get

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Speaker 1: conservatives on your side. And we need to understand that

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Speaker 1: we need to talk issues more, and we need to

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Speaker 1: have more issues debates just like this one. If we're

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Speaker 1: going to actually get people to want to vote for

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Speaker 1: Republican candidates, listen to this well. I want to address

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Speaker 1: Kroger's workforce practices and specifically how you accommodate or how

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Speaker 1: you treat requests for accommodation. Let's suppose hypothetically that Kroger

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Speaker 1: had a vegan worker with strong ethical beliefs about animal welfare.

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Speaker 1: If you requested to work outside, say the butcher department

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Speaker 1: and instead in the produced department. Would Kroger accommodate that request?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Senator for the question, And it's one of

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Speaker 1: the nice things about one of our retail stores. There's

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Speaker 1: many different areas, and we routinely have people transferring between apartments.

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Speaker 1: Some of that is just personal interest, some of that

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Speaker 1: is to grow in their own personal career. And if

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Speaker 1: you look at our store directors, seventy percent of our

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Speaker 1: store directors started out as an hourly associate. So it's

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Speaker 1: easy to accommodate somebody in that accommodation is really based

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Speaker 1: on their own desires and their own interests. Would you

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Speaker 1: make such accommodations based on their Christian beliefs as well?

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Speaker 1: We would not get involved in terms of religious beliefs. Okay.

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Speaker 1: The reason I ask is that you recently agreed to

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Speaker 1: pay one hundred and eighty thousand dollars to settle a

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Speaker 1: religious discrimination case in Conway, Arkansas. In that case, two

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Speaker 1: Kroger employees, Brenda Lawson, age seventy two and Trudy Rickard,

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Speaker 1: age fifty seven, declined the directive to begin wearing a

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Speaker 1: new store apron with a multicolored heart symbol on it. They,

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Speaker 1: like many other of your employees, felt uncomfortable with the

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Speaker 1: new aprons because they thought the heart resembled a gay

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Speaker 1: pride symbol. Rather than make accommodations, Kroger fired these two employees.

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Speaker 1: One employee simply asked to cover the symbol with a nametag,

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Speaker 1: but Kroger refused even that reasonable accommodation. Are you aware

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Speaker 1: of these terminations, mister McMullan, Senator, I am, I am not.

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Speaker 1: This was not a private lawsuit either by two disgruntled employees,

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Speaker 1: mister mullen, this was brought by the EOC. So are

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Speaker 1: you not aware when your company is sued for religious

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Speaker 1: discrimination by the United States government? No, sir, I am

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Speaker 1: not not always well, I'm disappointed by that. Are you

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Speaker 1: aware that, mister mister McMullan. Are you aware that Kroger

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Speaker 1: has something called an Allyship Guide for its employees? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Senator okay. In the Allyship Guide you direct employees to

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Speaker 1: stop using sir and ma'am because they're inclusive. Do you

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Speaker 1: expect seventy two year old employees in rural areas of

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Speaker 1: Arkansas to really stop using words like sir and ma'am?

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Speaker 1: If you look at our Alleyship Guide. Overall, it's trying

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Speaker 1: to support our associates and going forward and trying to

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Speaker 1: be inclusive for everybody with all different beliefs. And when

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Speaker 1: you look at our associate resource group, our associate resource

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Speaker 1: groups were created several years ago for people with different

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Speaker 1: types of interests, and we think it's incredibly important to

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Speaker 1: be an inclusive, opening culture to welcome all associates. If

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Speaker 1: employees in your stores in rural Arkansas refer to other

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Speaker 1: employees or customers or ma'am, do they face disciplinary action?

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Speaker 1: Not that I'm aware of, Sir, I would have to ask,

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Speaker 1: are you still requiring employees to where the apron with

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Speaker 1: the bow heart symbol on it? Yeah, if you If

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Speaker 1: you look at this, we put in place an apron

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Speaker 1: several years ago because our associates wanted to have a

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Speaker 1: common dress code. The heart is the symbol of art.

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Speaker 1: The Kroger's fundamental purpose is to feed the human spirit,

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Speaker 1: and part of feeding the human spirit is the heart,

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Speaker 1: and that heart is our fundamental strategy to support our purpose.

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Speaker 1: The colors were not tied to any specific thing. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure I believe that. Because it was introduced

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Speaker 1: during Pride Month, as a supposed sign of inclusivity, and

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Speaker 1: a federal judge didn't agree with it either. That's why

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Speaker 1: he rejected your company's motion for summary judgment. And you

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Speaker 1: just paid one hundred and eighty thousand dollars to two

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Speaker 1: employees that you wrongly terminated. By the way, would you

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Speaker 1: like to offer an apology here to bring the laws

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Speaker 1: and drudy record for the ordeal they went through. I

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Speaker 1: would need to understand more of the detail, Senator, thank you, okay.

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Speaker 1: So is it the case that you are still requiring

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Speaker 1: all employees without accommodation to wear this apron with the

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Speaker 1: rainbow heart? If you look at our apron would be

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Speaker 1: required for all associates to wear consistently across the company,

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Speaker 1: does it or does it not still include the symbol

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Speaker 1: for which you just paid one hundred and eighty thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars to settle an EFC lawsuit against your company. It

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Speaker 1: would include a heart on it, Senator. And at having

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Speaker 1: settled that lawsuit, are you now going to grant accommodations

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Speaker 1: to employees who don't wish to display a symbol that

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Speaker 1: they may perceive as not aligned with their moral and

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Speaker 1: Christian views? A Senator I will think for the question,

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Speaker 1: I will need to follow back up with our team

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Speaker 1: with more of the details. If this merger goes through,

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Speaker 1: who's going to be making decisions about uniforms in the

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Speaker 1: combined company and whether to grant reasonable accommodations. If you

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Speaker 1: look in terms of our fundamental uniform that was put

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Speaker 1: in place, our associate resource groups work together in terms

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Speaker 1: of designing the uniform, and we would use the same

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Speaker 1: type of approach on a combined company basis. This is

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Speaker 1: exactly what we're missing in the Republican party right now.

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Speaker 1: You listen to those thoughtful questions from Tom Cotton grilling

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Speaker 1: the Kroger CEO over firing employees who refused to wear

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Speaker 1: a gay pride symbol. They lose, they have to pay

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty something thousand dollars right and still

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Speaker 1: Kroger is saying we're gonna keep doing this. You have

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Speaker 1: a CEO that is obviously, I think, not being truthful

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Speaker 1: to Senator Tom Cotton. And the reason why Kroger is

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Speaker 1: running to Republicans right now is because Democrats are saying

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Speaker 1: no to this merger. So now after they treat people

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Speaker 1: the way they've been treating people, they come immediately running

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Speaker 1: over and they're like, oh, please, Republicans help us. These

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Speaker 1: are the types of issues that Republicans want thoughtful, honest

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Speaker 1: conversations about. Right, These are the issues that Republicans say, yes,

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Speaker 1: go defend me and my traditional values, and defend these

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Speaker 1: workers who are being persecuted and fired for not wearing propaganda,

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Speaker 1: political propaganda that goes against their religious beliefs. Literally, if

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Speaker 1: Republicans want to win in the future, we gotta look

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Speaker 1: at candidate quality. We got to learn from our losses,

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Speaker 1: and we have to make sure that we fight on

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Speaker 1: real issues, just like the one I talked to you about.

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Speaker 1: to this podcast, and I'll see you back here tomorrow