Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid Verbo.
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Speaker 2: Tie welcome back to the Solid Burbo boys and girls.
Speaker 2: My name is Ty Hill, and Grant joining me is
Speaker 2: always over there in stormy New York City, the one,
Speaker 2: the only Dan Rubinstein, Sir, how are you Ty?
Speaker 1: I'm not one for signs from above now, I'm not
Speaker 1: one for omens. I'm not one for good luck. But
Speaker 1: I was walking back from the office space at which
Speaker 1: I work back to the cloth is here where I
Speaker 1: record the show and do all the the audio recording
Speaker 1: I do, and I faintly hear something and it's getting
Speaker 1: louder as I'm walking closer and closer too in the
Speaker 1: direction I'm walking, it's getting louder and louder and louder,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden I can make out
Speaker 1: what it is, and it's that boom boom boom boom
Speaker 1: ba boom boom bao super bass. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: if I am walking to do the show, and tis
Speaker 1: selection for what he would quote sing on a nationally
Speaker 1: televised singing competition show comes on. I'm feeling good.
Speaker 2: Had some commentary on that on the old Twitter sphere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people not feeling it.
Speaker 2: One gentleman in particular said it totally makes sense. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if I should take that as a compliment.
Speaker 2: I'm guessing it wasn't. But what happened with the spirit
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Speaker 2: had an incredible AMA with our good friend Oh yeah
Speaker 2: at Goalie Junior earlier this week.
Speaker 1: Did you see that? I did? It covered a range
Speaker 1: of topics, a lot of South Bend food talk, which
Speaker 1: I don't know how applicable it is to me, but
Speaker 1: it's applicable to somebody. And he talked about preparing for Navy,
Speaker 1: he talked about body arts, a lot of food stuff, coffee, mapps.
Speaker 1: He really touched on a good variety of things. So
Speaker 1: I was very pleased with how that turned out. And
Speaker 1: we're gonna have more of these. We know a lot
Speaker 1: of people that have interesting things to say, like MGJ.
Speaker 1: Somebody asked if anybody had called him Mike Garlic, Yeah,
Speaker 1: which I think is great, terrific, It's delicious. Get that
Speaker 1: alice in any way you can. It's the chemical compound
Speaker 1: in there. And so very excited for the future of
Speaker 1: the AMA.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so all sorts of ways that you can get
Speaker 2: in touch with the show of course, solidrable agmail dot
Speaker 2: com if you want to email in you've got something
Speaker 2: to get off your chest. We did a lot of that.
Speaker 2: So here's what we've been doing the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 2: As we made the turn into May, which by the way,
Speaker 2: it was the one hundred day mark not so long ago.
Speaker 2: That's right until the college football season starts. But typically
Speaker 2: the way this show works, you and I we've been
Speaker 2: doing this for a while. When we make the turn
Speaker 2: into May, there's always that brief moment of panic, like,
Speaker 2: oh hell, what are we talking about in May? Yes,
Speaker 2: and even into the early part of June, I think
Speaker 2: we have that sentiment. But then as we get into July,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, August gets a little bit bigger
Speaker 2: in the window. And once we get to August, it's
Speaker 2: time to actually start talking about college football in the season.
Speaker 2: So it'll be here before you know it. What we
Speaker 2: did the last two weeks. Last week, I did the
Speaker 2: really weird role playing thing that I thought that was wonderful.
Speaker 2: I appreciate everyone in indulging me. Yeah, Journal, thank you.
Speaker 2: It seems like it went over well, so I'm okay
Speaker 2: with it. The week before that, you had twelve questions
Speaker 2: eight college football for non college football that you wanted
Speaker 2: to pose to me. And now, because we've been putting
Speaker 2: this off, and because we've promised our lawyer for loyal
Speaker 2: overbawl ers, not lawyer over ballers, those two both both
Speaker 2: that we're going to be doing Q and a's once
Speaker 2: a month. We wanted to cast a wide net and
Speaker 2: see what kind of questions we could gather to do
Speaker 2: on h to answer on this show.
Speaker 1: So that's where we're at tonight. I wonder how many
Speaker 1: lawyer overbawlers there actually are probably exists. I'm sorry, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, but we do have We have a
Speaker 1: number of questions about We have a number of questions
Speaker 1: about just random things in college football and outside of
Speaker 1: college football. In the way of news, there's not much,
Speaker 1: although there's like a weird committee in the NCAA trying
Speaker 1: to figure out, if you know, we can do a
Speaker 1: likeness thing with players and making some money off of
Speaker 1: their faces and brands. So that'll take forever and ever,
Speaker 1: but it probably gets us into our first question pretty easy. Congratulations, Skippy,
Speaker 1: you've got mail. You've got mail. On the solid verbal.
Speaker 2: As often as we can we like to pay homage
Speaker 2: to those of you who ride into the solid verbal
Speaker 2: Let's start first and foremost. You dovetailed quite nicely, thank
Speaker 2: for our first question or first series of questions.
Speaker 1: Really? Yes, Northwestern Chad. Yeah, I'm giving him that nick dame.
Speaker 1: I was not a self imposed nickname. But he's a
Speaker 1: Northwestern fan. His name is Chad, and he's been asking
Speaker 1: us enough questions. It's like when you ascend to a
Speaker 1: certain boy scout Eagle scout out and you get enough badges.
Speaker 1: Chad has enough ver balling badges. We're like, we give
Speaker 1: them a nickname.
Speaker 2: Does EA Sports have a secret team of programmers working
Speaker 2: on an updated to the minute version of the NCAA
Speaker 2: football game? You know, just in case they suddenly get
Speaker 2: the all clear from the nc DOUBLEA and the courts
Speaker 2: and the players to launch a new title. Dan I, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: I have do intel. I have a very high.
Speaker 1: Level of confidence.
Speaker 2: Let's say, oh my gosh, that EA is ready to
Speaker 2: move the millisecond they get the green light. I think
Speaker 2: they're prepared for it. I think they're working towards it.
Speaker 2: If you've read any of the press releases around Madden twenty,
Speaker 2: you know that they're going to be ten schools featured
Speaker 2: in Madden twenty Clemson, USC, Oregon, I think, is going
Speaker 2: to be in Florida, an Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: Got in there somehow.
Speaker 2: But there are there are a grouping of schools that
Speaker 2: are going to be prominently featured in the game, which
Speaker 2: I think is cool.
Speaker 1: I would imagine those schools and players playing for those
Speaker 1: schools in the game. They will go out of their
Speaker 1: way to make it seem like there is no clear
Speaker 1: connection between current college players. We go Oregon, Justin Herbert, tall,
Speaker 1: thin quarterback for Oregon that game, short fat, possibly Korean. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure exactly the manner in which those teams
Speaker 2: will be represented, but they will have a presence in
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: Do you think it'll be like remember the Mario hockey
Speaker 1: game or it was just like skinny medium.
Speaker 2: I was just thinking that when you were talking about
Speaker 2: Justin Herbert.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they're doing. Skinny medium, medium, medium fat,
Speaker 1: skinny medium. Great.
Speaker 2: There was a mode last year too where you could
Speaker 2: work a player through the college ranks and get him
Speaker 2: to the NFL. I think this represents some of Yea's
Speaker 2: on going efforts to rebuild the relationship with the NC
Speaker 2: double A. They're doing what they need to do to
Speaker 2: mend those fences and just trying to get a sense
Speaker 2: for what will work what won't work in the future
Speaker 2: when they decide to launch this game. There's still obviously
Speaker 2: a very big following. We are in our thirties at
Speaker 2: this point, Dan, you still have an interest in it.
Speaker 2: You have a child. My guess is that your desire
Speaker 2: to have this game back in your life has not
Speaker 2: diminished as much as perhaps it should, despite being a
Speaker 2: new father.
Speaker 1: What was what was your ideal setup for playing NC DOUBLEA, Like,
Speaker 1: how would you carve out your space physically? Like would
Speaker 1: you have a drink by your side? Would you be
Speaker 1: playing music? Would you be like where would you sitting?
Speaker 1: What TV were you playing? I had okay with whom
Speaker 1: were you playing? If anybody?
Speaker 2: When I was still in my old apartment before meeting
Speaker 2: before the old crash pad marrying solid life Kate, the
Speaker 2: apartment that you could move out of forty five minutes,
Speaker 2: that's right. We had robust dynasty going a robust online dynasty. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and we had the TV mounted on the wall. We
Speaker 2: had those old couches and that was that was the
Speaker 2: ideal set up.
Speaker 1: You were playing with your buddy Feldman.
Speaker 2: I was playing with him a lot, Yeah, and along
Speaker 2: with other friends who weren't located in the same space,
Speaker 2: but that was that was sort of the dream man.
Speaker 1: I played on Brown Beauty, my old couch that unfortunately
Speaker 1: Jody with and I was like, I think, what's something
Speaker 1: to retire brown Beauty. I was like, but She's like, no,
Speaker 1: I think it's time.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: Played on Brown Beauty, beautifully soft microfiber, chocolate brown couch.
Speaker 2: I had a black leather couch, Black Beauty that the
Speaker 2: solid wife Kate immediately relegated to our basement.
Speaker 1: I would throw on a podcast, either just out loud
Speaker 1: on my phone or on my headphones or something like that,
Speaker 1: because and I would have I would still have the
Speaker 1: EA sounds, you know, I'd still have Kirk karb Street
Speaker 1: saying like, I don't know why they went for there,
Speaker 1: very low. I had a good mix going, cold beverage going,
Speaker 1: and I would generally because I didn't sometimes i'd play
Speaker 1: with my brother who lives near me, but a lot
Speaker 1: of the time I was just playing online and it
Speaker 1: felt great.
Speaker 2: It was the best. It was the best. All right,
Speaker 2: Ray says, Let's say EA scopes out the landscape of
Speaker 2: college football and they decide that you two the solid
Speaker 2: verbal whoa. Yeah, you guys are influential enough to have
Speaker 2: input on the relaunch. What new features would you want?
Speaker 2: What previous features would you want to return? And why
Speaker 2: is the college rock playlist from NC DOUBLEA Football two
Speaker 2: thousand and six not on that list even though it
Speaker 2: absolutely should be.
Speaker 1: So much da la soul in my brain because of
Speaker 1: NC DOUBLEA two thousand and six, I think bad religion,
Speaker 1: lag wagon bands like that. Oh, it was wonderful, it
Speaker 1: was good, really good. What features would would I want
Speaker 1: to return? I was always just big on playing online
Speaker 1: and getting my record up. I liked playing with friends.
Speaker 1: I like playing with my brother. I did really do.
Speaker 1: I did one Dynasty and it was fun. I created players,
Speaker 1: I liked recruiting all that kind of stuff. But it
Speaker 1: was really the essence of it was the competition, getting better,
Speaker 1: figuring out audibles that would work for me on either
Speaker 1: side of the ball, you know, the just sort of
Speaker 1: the tweaks and figuring out who I was as a player,
Speaker 1: as my playing brand, if you will. So, I don't
Speaker 1: think there's specific features. My curious thing though, is when
Speaker 1: he says, if we're influential enough to have input on
Speaker 1: the relaunch, what I would want to do is I
Speaker 1: would want to somehow have EA leak the game to
Speaker 1: us well in advance and through our show. We're dropping
Speaker 1: nugs tie and you are listening to the show for
Speaker 1: Easter eggs. Some of it is very direct, like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is in a game we're playing, and some of
Speaker 1: it you have to listen back, maybe play our voices
Speaker 1: in reverse to hear about new features and maybe release dates.
Speaker 1: It's an Easter egg hunt, is how we're involved with this.
Speaker 1: Remember when Twitter was new and the first really big
Speaker 1: athlete was Shack Right and he was like, Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get some tay food at this place.
Speaker 1: Anybody want to come hang and hit some some crab
Speaker 1: rangoon And it was just like a crazy thing. That's
Speaker 1: what I would do with this game. I'm like, all right,
Speaker 1: we're at Target, we're in Columbus, Ohio. We set it
Speaker 1: up on one of the TV's, it's gonna be here
Speaker 1: for an hour. Let's rock. We could do that.
Speaker 2: We could make that word what that was rocks give
Speaker 2: us the word.
Speaker 1: Yea, we would do happenings. I think that's the word happenings.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we could do if we were influential enough to
Speaker 2: have some say over the relaunch. Hopefully they would deem
Speaker 2: us influential enough to give Locks of the Week during
Speaker 2: Dynasty Mode or Home Dogs. I don't know if Yako's
Speaker 2: could afford that sponsorship for Home Dog of the Week,
Speaker 2: but maybe like Hatfield could.
Speaker 1: I would definitely be in favor. I would be in favored.
Speaker 1: You remember, I'm sure you do because we talked about
Speaker 1: this on our nineties video games episode Bill barn Well.
Speaker 1: The fake sponsors, Oh yeah, where it would be like
Speaker 1: Ed's House of Lobster and body shopping.
Speaker 2: Back in the old Triple Play baseball.
Speaker 1: There's like Triple Play ninety seven somewhere somewhere in there
Speaker 1: where they'd have fake sponsors. That would be wonderful and
Speaker 1: it dovetails nicely.
Speaker 2: Ty.
Speaker 1: This is a pro move here. This is a pro
Speaker 1: move with the hype, with the type of Yeah, with
Speaker 1: the hype of a potential NCAAVO game return, it's time
Speaker 1: to pay the players for their likeness. According to Dan,
Speaker 1: what random endorsements can you think of that would make sense.
Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is if everybody's likeness is getting
Speaker 1: involved in this game, and perhaps you know this is
Speaker 1: an example, this is nothing I'd like if Trevor Lawrence, yeah,
Speaker 1: wanted to make has to be like panteen pro v right, Well,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, I would even say, EA can pay
Speaker 1: him more to do a fake sponsor. You see what
Speaker 1: I'm saying here within the show, like maybe it's between
Speaker 1: core and like there's a little pop up square and
Speaker 1: just like Trevor Lawrence here and I'm here to tell you,
Speaker 1: and it's just more just super likenessy, it's just him
Speaker 1: in the game in the way that when you would
Speaker 1: play some basketball game from the nineties, like Charles Barkley
Speaker 1: would pop up and say something crazy, that's what I
Speaker 1: want within the game. That's how they're really taking advantage.
Speaker 1: So it's a super personal way to do things. So
Speaker 1: he's asking, though, what what random endorsements would actually make
Speaker 1: sense for college football players outside of appearing in this
Speaker 1: video game. Oh god, I've got a bunch. Well go ahead,
Speaker 1: give them what.
Speaker 2: I still got to go through all my modes and
Speaker 2: how I would improve the game.
Speaker 1: But continue, so it's a weird College football is a
Speaker 1: weird mix fandom wise of older you know, richer or
Speaker 1: just fans who are nostalgic about the time they were
Speaker 1: in school fifties, sixties, seventies, right, So you want to
Speaker 1: appeal to them, but you also want to appeal to college
Speaker 1: students who are going to the game. So it's a
Speaker 1: good mix. So something like ride hailing, like at an
Speaker 1: uber Lyft sponsorship, I imagine ride hailing in college town's enormous.
Speaker 1: Everybody's going out, you want to get home. You're not driving.
Speaker 1: So whether it's uber Lyft or whoever, I think that
Speaker 1: makes that's an actually serious answer, right sure. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Barbecue accessories, it's related to college football. You get your rubs,
Speaker 1: some tongs, a cutting board, whatever. You get some offensive
Speaker 1: linemen in there. I actually think offensive and defensive linemen
Speaker 1: stand to gain the most because they can leverage their
Speaker 1: size in way like a water park sponsorship, like come
Speaker 1: out to Dean's Dean's House of Slides and we'll have
Speaker 1: a cannonball contest with the Georgia offensive line. I think
Speaker 1: you get stuff like that. Anything Japanese, anything, anything involving
Speaker 1: I don't know, kickers, punters whoever. Where they're doing, like
Speaker 1: pickle juice soda for a Japanese brand, be wonderful. And
Speaker 1: I imagine they've got some cash they're willing to pay
Speaker 1: for their their spokespeople. Cereal makes a good deal of sense.
Speaker 1: You got a lot of young fans back in the box,
Speaker 1: snack food, hot tubs, mattresses. There's a product. They're definitely
Speaker 1: not a sponsor, but it's applicable to large men's sweating.
Speaker 1: If you heard of dude wipes, I have not do
Speaker 1: you can you guess what they are? I can take
Speaker 1: a pretty educated guess as to it. They're odor free wipes, Okay,
Speaker 1: that you can use anywhere on your body that you
Speaker 1: see fit. I think that would make it.
Speaker 2: I think EA can shoot a little higher than dude wipes.
Speaker 2: But it is a random endorsement.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about EA. I'm just talking in general
Speaker 1: in general likeness. Yes, these are just general likenesses. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: fair enough general likeness sponsorships. But man, I really want
Speaker 1: to do happenings with whatever. NCAA twenty twenty one just
Speaker 1: all like we are just going to random, random places,
Speaker 1: probably in college towns, you know, we're probably going on tour.
Speaker 1: We're doing Madison, we're doing Colge. Do it both Missouri
Speaker 1: and South Carolina. I'm just saying I would do it.
Speaker 1: I'm obviously we're one of the Bronx.
Speaker 2: If they're making a new version of the game, they
Speaker 2: got to steer into recruiting because presumably when it happens,
Speaker 2: it happens quick. If they've got to spin it up quickly.
Speaker 2: I would take the old recruiting system and just put
Speaker 2: it in the new game. The old recruiting system was
Speaker 2: pretty good, even if you kept it intact in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty or twenty twenty two. The old system was was
Speaker 2: pretty perfect moving forward. If you're going to build anything new,
Speaker 2: you find ways to enhance that recruiting mode with like
Speaker 2: new pitches and new ways maybe to negatively recruit, but
Speaker 2: steer into signing day or both signing days. Now, a
Speaker 2: transfer portal, all that stuff is very nuanced in very
Speaker 2: college football.
Speaker 1: So oh, I could imagine a great like graphical motion
Speaker 1: graphical intro into the transfer portal.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, shoo shoo, shooooohoo, it'd be cool, it would
Speaker 2: be excellent. So you steer into that, you steer into
Speaker 2: the Playoff Committee. Like maybe you're inside the room with
Speaker 2: RC Slow Company God when he's making his old man
Speaker 2: case for the top four. That's that's something you can
Speaker 2: look at.
Speaker 1: I would only be on board with that happening if
Speaker 1: if you remember the nes Games where I mean this
Speaker 1: ties into last week, Well, you'd be going through an RPG.
Speaker 1: You'd be going through a land and you'd like go
Speaker 1: into a sword and Spear emporium to buy something, and
Speaker 1: you start talking to the proprietor of the Sword and
Speaker 1: Spear emporium, and all that comes up is text on
Speaker 1: the screen and ruver and that comes up underneath whoever
Speaker 1: it is, Rob Mullins. You know that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: where it's just like wow, Ohio standards, but everything that
Speaker 1: you actually hear is and just the text appears underneath that.
Speaker 1: I'd be on board with. I don't want actual speech
Speaker 1: at that point.
Speaker 2: Making a D mode where you can upgrade facility God
Speaker 2: iron Fire, that'd be cool.
Speaker 1: I would do. I would I would play on strength
Speaker 1: coach mode. I would choose probably the Northwestern Dude, maybe
Speaker 1: Oregon's Aaronfeld, where he's just like you have to hit
Speaker 1: certain benchmarks between seasons and Dynasty mode in the locker room.
Speaker 1: It's like it's the NCAA version of in Street Fighter
Speaker 1: when you're beating the crap out of the car, right,
Speaker 1: just mashing buttons. Yeah, you're just mashing buttons. So you're
Speaker 1: just doing squats and lunches and you're doing like the
Speaker 1: box jumps. That's that's a mandatory thing between seasons.
Speaker 2: Essentially the same thing as my favorite Nintendo game of
Speaker 2: all time, Capcom's Gold Medal Challenge.
Speaker 1: Yes, just slamming buttons?
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, Can Neil Brown take West Virginia Good above
Speaker 2: the eight win level consistently?
Speaker 1: That's from Frank. Yes.
Speaker 2: Now, Neil Brown is your boy, so I don't don't
Speaker 2: want to steal your thunder here, but I will say
Speaker 2: I think the answer is absolutely yes. What I find
Speaker 2: interesting about Neil Brown and correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 2: since you are the Neil Brown aficionado of the program,
Speaker 2: He's got all sorts of offensive experience before becoming a
Speaker 2: head football coach, but he's not running any kind of
Speaker 2: pass happy system. This isn't going to be the Holgerson offense.
Speaker 1: He's really good at.
Speaker 2: Winning in the trenches, and he's really good at finding
Speaker 2: an offensive system that fits personnel. And most interesting of
Speaker 2: all is that despite being an offensive minded guy, his
Speaker 2: defenses have been baller.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been very very good.
Speaker 2: And he's bringing his DC over from Troy with him
Speaker 2: to West Virginia.
Speaker 1: So Troy these last few years sixteen, seventeen, eighteen after
Speaker 1: they go four and eight, ten, eleven and ten wins,
Speaker 1: but that includes bulls, so nine, ten and nine by
Speaker 1: my math, so yes, that's above eight. And if you
Speaker 1: look back to where West Virginia was during their best
Speaker 1: year in the Big Twelve, which I believe is twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: they ran the ball very very well, they defended the
Speaker 1: run very very well. And West Virginia's recently scheduled pretty
Speaker 1: well in the non conference portion of their schedule. So
Speaker 1: coming up, they do have some significant opponents. They I mean,
Speaker 1: the backyard brawl is back starting. I want to say
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. They're playing three or four times. They
Speaker 1: have Alabama in six or seven years, but they have
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech. They have Florida State on a neutral site.
Speaker 1: I think it's in Atlanta. They have Missouri, so they
Speaker 1: have I think a home and home with Penn State.
Speaker 1: So if you throw in a loss probably most years
Speaker 1: in the non conference, or not most years, but every
Speaker 1: so often, and then a couple losses in Big twelve time.
Speaker 1: I think it's doable. It's all about going to be
Speaker 1: about the defense. I don't think it's going to be
Speaker 1: a great year one because of what they have to replace.
Speaker 1: Quarterback is a big question mark. Offensive line does not
Speaker 1: look great right now, receiver does not look great. Defense
Speaker 1: may be okay at spots. It's all going to be
Speaker 1: for him. It's going to be defense in the in
Speaker 1: the Big twelve. And if they're going to get to
Speaker 1: that point, they're going to need to recruit Florida very well.
Speaker 1: He's going to need to develop diamonds in the rough.
Speaker 1: I'm confident that he'll be able to do that. Nine
Speaker 1: every year, nine plus every year is a lot. I'd
Speaker 1: say eight plus. I think they'd be in a good
Speaker 1: place there. He says consistently eight nine plus. I thought
Speaker 1: he said more than eight. Okay, eight win level. Consistently
Speaker 1: he said above an eight win level. My math tells
Speaker 1: me nine is above eight. I think he can get
Speaker 1: to eight consistently. I'm curious about this offense, curious about
Speaker 1: whoever ends up starting Jack Allison or Austin Kendall. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I like Neil Brown. I like that higher.
Speaker 2: I think is a really really good higher, and I
Speaker 2: think defense can be a competitive advantage in the.
Speaker 1: Don't I'm not in love with King. I believe it's konig.
Speaker 1: Is that how you pronounce it? I looked up the
Speaker 1: pronunciation guide? Okay, wow, look at you. I'm not in
Speaker 1: love with vic. He has been like a poor man's
Speaker 1: Jim Cheney defensive consultant type to me, and I generally
Speaker 1: don't trust them as for like consistent high level play.
Speaker 1: But he was great for Troy and that defense. They've
Speaker 1: been absolutely terrific against the run. I hope it keeps up.
Speaker 1: But there, I think they're gonna be doing some adjusting
Speaker 1: scheme wise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, can it scale up, especially in the Big twelve
Speaker 2: a little bit more wide open?
Speaker 1: Okay? So I would say there to get to nine
Speaker 1: wins a year on average regular season wins, not nine
Speaker 1: including a bowl, I would give it a forty eight
Speaker 1: percent chance of happening.
Speaker 2: All right, I'll go a little higher than that, but
Speaker 2: I see where you're coming from. Abbit what Big ten
Speaker 2: team will have the biggest upset? Alert during the season.
Speaker 2: This is an excellent question. I don't know about upset alert,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to harken back something I said a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago. The biggest letdown look ahead sandwich
Speaker 2: is Michigan going to Indiana November twenty third. It's one
Speaker 2: week after hosting Michigan State and one week before hosting
Speaker 2: Ohio State. That, my friends, is the letdown look ahead
Speaker 2: sandwich of the big season.
Speaker 1: That's the obvious one. Yes, I've got an open faced
Speaker 1: let down look ahead sandwich. Remember the definition of an
Speaker 1: open facer I do, of course, bye week after the situation.
Speaker 1: So I have Michigan at Maryland, which I'm not super
Speaker 1: keen on Maryland this year. A lot of questions all
Speaker 1: over the place. I don't know if I love them.
Speaker 1: On defense with I think it's Brady Hoake's older brother,
Speaker 1: That's who was there, John Hoak. John Hoak, oh I
Speaker 1: looked it up. He was with Tampa Bay last year.
Speaker 1: He was long time I think Chicago Bears defensive backs coach.
Speaker 1: Defensive backs coach for Tampa Bay last year. Not a
Speaker 1: good past. Defense turns out thirty two out of thirty two.
Speaker 1: Not a good place to be not all on them, but.
Speaker 2: Two syllable names are very unfulfilling.
Speaker 1: I have So Michigan is playing Notre Dame. I believe
Speaker 1: in the Big House this year. Right then they have
Speaker 1: Maryland on the road, then they have a bye and
Speaker 1: then they have Michigan State. Okay, So I think there's
Speaker 1: an open face quality to that. I think there's only
Speaker 1: three teams that could qualify as right now being on
Speaker 1: upset alert. I don't think there is a true Wisconsin
Speaker 1: upset alert. I don't think there's a true Michigan State
Speaker 1: upset alert. After last year. I think it's just Michigan,
Speaker 1: Ohio State, and Penn State right now. Is that reasonable?
Speaker 1: Those three teams are the true If we're talking upsets
Speaker 1: in May, I think it's after last year. It's not
Speaker 1: a big upset of Michigan State loses to a lesser
Speaker 1: team ORF Wisconsin right now loses to a lesser team
Speaker 1: Ohio State at Northwestern on that weird Friday. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: before Wisconsin and after a bye week, so scheduleized that
Speaker 1: could be a little bit strange for them going to
Speaker 1: Kyle Field and then Penn State at Minnesota. Penn State
Speaker 1: will not have played at home in three weeks with
Speaker 1: a buy in there, and that would be after three
Speaker 1: good defenses. I think it's the Michigan schools and Iowa,
Speaker 1: so presumably just being away from home and strange beds
Speaker 1: good defenses. I'd watch out for that one, especially with
Speaker 1: how Minnesota finished last year.
Speaker 2: We'll see Chris with some random rapid fire what's more
Speaker 2: likely questions? I like it? Yes, first one, a team
Speaker 2: other than Georgia wins the SEC East or a team
Speaker 2: other than Alabama wins the SEC West. I think I
Speaker 2: would rather have a team other than Georgia winning the SEC.
Speaker 1: I think Florida's closer to Georgia than the team is
Speaker 1: in the West to Alabama right now. And I wish
Speaker 1: it were LSU. But if you could remind me, it's
Speaker 1: been years since they've scored a point against Alabama. Years.
Speaker 2: Kansas wins three games or Kansas wins any other number
Speaker 2: of games, right.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take other, I'm gonna go other, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go under. I'm gonna go under.
Speaker 2: With that a non Power five team, and he says
Speaker 2: in parentheses, Notre Dame is eligible finish is in the
Speaker 2: top eight in a final pre Bowl ranking, or one
Speaker 2: of Alabama or Clemson misses the playoff.
Speaker 1: I boy, I don't.
Speaker 2: Think Alabama or Clemson are missing the playoffs, So by default,
Speaker 2: I'm going a non Power five team finishing in the
Speaker 2: top eight.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna take either Alabama or Clemson missing the playoff.
Speaker 1: Alabama most likely has to go through Georgia. Clemson loses
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. I hope it doesn't happen, but that's that's
Speaker 1: sort of a razor with thin margin at that point.
Speaker 1: We saw what happened last year, so I think there
Speaker 1: are too many variables, and Alabama still has a tough
Speaker 1: schedule in the SEC WES. Clemson most certainly does not
Speaker 1: and will not have to go through anybody all that
Speaker 1: good in their conference championship game. But yeah, Alabama going
Speaker 1: through Georgia once again with Jake From might be the
Speaker 1: first quarterback taken in the draft next year, right, it
Speaker 1: might be. I don't want to have a discussion about this.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying Jake From in his if Daniel year,
Speaker 2: if Daniel freaking Jones can go top two, Okay, so
Speaker 2: forget the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: It's the NFL Draft. And by the way, I think
Speaker 1: LSU in my head, LSU did score a touchdown. They've
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown in the last three years against Alabama,
Speaker 1: so I regret the error. I think Jake from having
Speaker 1: that experience playing on a big stage looking as good
Speaker 1: as Georgia did for a good chunk of last year's
Speaker 1: game and for the National championship game the year before.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go with that, all right, okay, us
Speaker 1: next rapid fire non quarterback wins the Heisman, or a
Speaker 1: player from a note on playoff team wins the Heisman,
Speaker 1: I'll take non playoff. I'll take a non playoff team
Speaker 1: because I can still get a quarterback. That way, I
Speaker 1: could still get you know, Dwayne Haskins was a finalist
Speaker 1: last year as a non playoff player.
Speaker 2: A coach not named Sabin or Sweeney wins a playoff game,
Speaker 2: or a player not named Tua or Lawrence wins the Heisman,
Speaker 2: that's a really good one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll take the first one because they could be
Speaker 1: playing each other in the first round. I was thinking
Speaker 1: that as well.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's likely, and I think it's far
Speaker 2: less likely that Tua or Lawrence won't win the Heisman.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to go I agree with you, but
Speaker 2: even like Soart, Yeah, finishing one and two means they
Speaker 2: both are either undefeated or have a terrific loss.
Speaker 1: To stay at one or two. And I think they
Speaker 1: could randomly lose a game and still make the playoff
Speaker 1: like Alabama did without winning their division a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago. Sure, absolutely, and just sneaking as like a
Speaker 1: three or four and end up playing each other. I'm
Speaker 1: going to allow you.
Speaker 2: To rant on part F here in Chris's rapid fire
Speaker 2: what's more likely questions the PAC twelve champion has fewer
Speaker 2: than two losses, or the PAC twelve champion comes from
Speaker 2: the South Division. I think we are in agreement on
Speaker 2: this one, but I would like you to just go
Speaker 2: ahead and rant.
Speaker 1: I don't even know the PAC twelve champion having fewer
Speaker 1: than two losses, So you're talking about an eleven and
Speaker 1: one I guess twelve and one champion, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 1: I don't see it. I don't see it.
Speaker 2: So by default, then it's got to be from the
Speaker 2: South Division, could be could be USC maybe.
Speaker 1: Thanks take Utah Utah the South.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, there will be a five overtime plus game
Speaker 2: this year, or there will not be a five overtime
Speaker 2: plus game this year.
Speaker 1: I say no. I say no.
Speaker 2: And finally, Illinois will make a bowl game or Colorado
Speaker 2: will make a bowl game. So he's saying ill versus Colorado.
Speaker 2: I would most definitely go with Colorado on that one.
Speaker 1: I think so too. I'm pulling up their schedule right now.
Speaker 1: They have an experienced quarterback, they have maybe the best
Speaker 1: wide receiver in the country, so a game changer. Not
Speaker 1: a lot of schools can claim that. Colorado State Nebraska
Speaker 1: both at home, air Force at home, so they're not
Speaker 1: leaving Boulder until they travel to Asu. Who's going through
Speaker 1: some changes, new quarterback there, possibly a freshman. So if
Speaker 1: we're counting winnable games, Colorado State and Nebraska, air Force,
Speaker 1: Arizona State Arizona, that's five. UCLA is six. I don't
Speaker 1: think either one of them is making a bowl game.
Speaker 2: This might be my favorite question we've ever gotten.
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: Jason says, if you had to pick a college stadium
Speaker 2: to occupy to defend yourself against roving hordes, he has zombies, fans,
Speaker 2: et cetera. Which stadium do you pick to give you
Speaker 2: the best chance of survival. You got to consider all
Speaker 2: sorts of things.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: He has sight lines, points of entry, food offerings and
Speaker 2: the like.
Speaker 1: Dan, do you have an answer for this?
Speaker 2: I thought long and hard and probably put too much
Speaker 2: energy into it, but I feel like I have a
Speaker 2: good answer.
Speaker 1: I'm taking dope Campbell, Okay, while I'm going to Tallahassee.
Speaker 1: You have a mascot with a flaming spear. That helps.
Speaker 1: It does help that. I don't know if there is
Speaker 1: a better you're talking if you talk about like the
Speaker 1: West Virginia musket. If you're shooting blanks, you're talking cannons
Speaker 1: at various schools. You're shooting blanks. That's a flaming spear.
Speaker 1: Is a flaming spear? Is a flaming spear? That's right.
Speaker 1: So I'm presumably getting access to that, getting a weapon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting a nice weapon there, or an armory of
Speaker 1: flaming spirits.
Speaker 2: And a horse and a horse which, provided you can
Speaker 2: ride the horse, gives you a way to get around.
Speaker 1: And also the surrounding area in Leon County and the Panhandle.
Speaker 1: If we're talking about an apocalypse, we're also talking about
Speaker 1: weapons everywhere, illegal pets on the loose, like it's an
Speaker 1: area where I feel like there is going to be
Speaker 1: some backup if they're willing to be on my side. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I'm going to Campbell. I am harnessing the energy
Speaker 1: of FSU Twitter.
Speaker 2: What I like about it is that it's in the
Speaker 2: shape of a bowl mm hmm. And it's a major
Speaker 2: college football stadium where in crowd control is something they've
Speaker 2: clearly figured out.
Speaker 1: But it's old enough that there's not it's not intricate, no,
Speaker 1: like there's not that hat walks. That's the place to hide.
Speaker 2: I don't want Beaver Stadium because then I got to
Speaker 2: worry about the zombies getting onto the upper deck and
Speaker 2: what the hell you're going to do. Then conversely, I
Speaker 2: don't want something like a Sam Boyd Stadium comes to
Speaker 2: mind for UNLV, where you've basically got one whole side
Speaker 2: of the stadium. I don't know how well you know
Speaker 2: Sam Boyd. I don't know why I thought I was
Speaker 2: the back of my hand. Yeah, but there's a whole
Speaker 2: area behind a scoreboard where there's just it's like a
Speaker 2: hill and they could just stream in and then your
Speaker 2: toast you've got nowhere to go. I don't want that either.
Speaker 2: I don't want zombies coming in unabated. I like the
Speaker 2: cut of your jib with Dope Campbell. I think the
Speaker 2: answer is Michigan Stadium.
Speaker 1: Here's why. So you have your bowl, you've got the bull.
Speaker 2: It's obviously a huge stadium, but it's built a little
Speaker 2: bit like Fenway Park in that it's built down into
Speaker 2: the ground, right, so you've got really good sight lines
Speaker 2: from the top of the stadium. You can always fight
Speaker 2: from an elevated position, which I like, which is helpful.
Speaker 2: You've got consistent terrain to fight on because it's in
Speaker 2: the shape of a bull. It bows out a lot,
Speaker 2: and you've got consistent points of entry. So I like
Speaker 2: that about Michigan Stadium. Plus, they're used to having a
Speaker 2: large capacity crowd there. There used to crowd control, presumably,
Speaker 2: tons of places to eat. If you've got to go
Speaker 2: and raid a concession stand, you know you can. You
Speaker 2: can make do with Michigan Stadium. I think that's the
Speaker 2: correct answer.
Speaker 1: Counterpoint, if this is your new home stadium, there's just
Speaker 1: too much history there of the home team losing when
Speaker 1: the stakes are oh damn, and when when everything's on
Speaker 1: the line with zombies and here's the other thing about
Speaker 1: Michigan Stadium. There's a certain quiet to it that can
Speaker 1: be come on, I'm sorry, I apologize. I'm married into
Speaker 1: a mazing blue family.
Speaker 2: The answer is Michigan Stadium.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I'm sticking with dok.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go to Josh, what's your preferred college football
Speaker 2: preview mag and why.
Speaker 1: Oh, I've really grown to like Fawn a lot. Okay.
Speaker 1: They've incorporated people that we've had on this show a lot.
Speaker 1: They're incorporated some analytics angles. It's sort of no nonsense.
Speaker 1: But it's all in English. It's not like there aren't
Speaker 1: seventy three different abbreviations that I suddenly have to like
Speaker 1: turn to a legend to remember what I'm looking at.
Speaker 1: There's nothing that's referencing, like looking at a Notre Dame
Speaker 1: preview that's talking about Tommy Reese. Excuse me, Tom.
Speaker 2: Reese, Tom it's tom. There's just too.
Speaker 1: Much context in some other some other magazines. And I
Speaker 1: just there's a depth chart, there's a schedule, they're position
Speaker 1: group breakdowns. It's a great pooper guide. I love it.
Speaker 2: They're all they're all very good, the delights, they're all
Speaker 2: very if I'm picking though I probably go athlon as well. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I buy them all for what it's worth.
Speaker 1: But how do you feel? How do you feel about
Speaker 1: the anonymous scouting reports.
Speaker 2: I'm a huge sucker for the not like the the
Speaker 2: blind item.
Speaker 1: They are ethically hazy, ethically in a very strange place.
Speaker 2: You're talking like page six kind of well it's out, okay.
Speaker 1: So if you don't know what we're talking about in
Speaker 1: athlon for each team, say they're talking about I don't
Speaker 1: know Texas A and M, they'll be like a rival
Speaker 1: assistance take It will be like the offensive line was
Speaker 1: super overrated last year. I don't think they've got the
Speaker 1: bodies up front on defense, and while I like their
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, I don't think their quarterback has that highest ceiling.
Speaker 1: They're much more beatable than people realize. Now you're hiding
Speaker 1: behind anonymity to say mean things, which again ethically not wonderful.
Speaker 1: As you know, somebody interested in media and journalism, but
Speaker 1: somebody interested in like the sweet sweet juice that that
Speaker 1: nectary gossip.
Speaker 2: I love it all right, Yeah, Kevin in Washington, do
Speaker 2: you think it's possible ed Orgeron could be on the
Speaker 2: path to building LSU in the same way that Davos
Speaker 2: this is the good stuff built Clemson over the last
Speaker 2: few years. He goes the reasoning for my question. LSU
Speaker 2: was trended better over the last couple of years overall,
Speaker 2: including a Big Bowl win last year with a horrifically
Speaker 2: tough schedule, and there seems to be a lot of
Speaker 2: similarity between Dabo and Orgeron in terms of the strengths
Speaker 2: and weaknesses they bring to the head coach position. Dan,
Speaker 2: this is an excellent question, Thank you, Kevin.
Speaker 1: We've started seeing this a lot in a lot of
Speaker 1: different places with new coaches and strategies that like they're
Speaker 1: going to do for their new program what Dabo did
Speaker 1: for Clemson, and that is they're just gonna worry about
Speaker 1: big picture stuff and recruiting and infrastructure and operations, and
Speaker 1: they're going to be hands off with offense and defense.
Speaker 1: They're going to not take as much money and spend
Speaker 1: all their money on the assistance and coordinators and do
Speaker 1: everything they can't make the environment great sech assistance and
Speaker 1: coordinators will want to stay. All of that under sells
Speaker 1: an incredibly important point. What if you just can't dabboise
Speaker 1: your program what if, and stay with me here, what
Speaker 1: if Dabo Sweeney is uniquely excellence? What if he's just
Speaker 1: an incredible football coach and not a template? Is that?
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? What if he's really good? And
Speaker 1: I think the fact that like he portrays this at
Speaker 1: times sort of aw shucks kind of thing, like he's
Speaker 1: not actually that good, He's just tapped into a strategy.
Speaker 1: And I think that's so misleading.
Speaker 2: It does go against the Beyonce principle of finding another
Speaker 2: Dabbo in a minute.
Speaker 1: It does. And I mean I remember hearing about this
Speaker 1: when Willie Taggert was hired at Orgon, that he's going
Speaker 1: to do for Orgon what you know, he's a great
Speaker 1: recruiter and he's very likable blah blah blah. And you
Speaker 1: know he hired Jim Levitch and he's paying all this
Speaker 1: money on coordinators ya Mark Crystabal, these big splash hires.
Speaker 1: Doing what Dabo did at Clemson has to be nearly impossible,
Speaker 1: because if it weren't, everyone everybody would be doing it.
Speaker 2: They have this thing with baseball players, and I forget
Speaker 2: who came up with the stat, but once they get
Speaker 2: to fifteen hundred at bats, you sort of know what
Speaker 2: they are, and I think both Dabo and Coach O
Speaker 2: at this point have reached their proverbial fifteen hundred at bats.
Speaker 2: We know what they are. I feel a lot more
Speaker 2: confident in saying that Coach O isn't going to get
Speaker 2: to Dabbo heights than otherwise, So I'd love to be
Speaker 2: wrong about that. I love LSU football. I'm rooting for
Speaker 2: Coach O. I think it's a great story. I don't
Speaker 2: think I agree with the premise here that he's going
Speaker 2: to build it Dabo style and turn LSU into the
Speaker 2: next Alabama of the West.
Speaker 1: Right, it's not a prefab situation now, you are not.
Speaker 1: It's unlikely that anybody will ever be able to do
Speaker 1: what Dabo did for Clemson. And LSU is a national
Speaker 1: champmanship winning program recently, recruits have been alive. I believe
Speaker 1: you know they won in what two thousand and seven? Yep,
Speaker 1: So you're talking about recruits having vague recollections of LSU
Speaker 1: as a top tier team and they were in the
Speaker 1: national championship what twenty twelve, twenty eleven. So LSU is
Speaker 1: in a good place brand wise. The big difference right
Speaker 1: now between Clemson and LSU is. LSU's quarterback is fine.
Speaker 1: Clemson's quarterback is amazing.
Speaker 2: Trevor is Trevor want by the way, Trevor Lawrence, by
Speaker 2: the way. I don't mean to paint coach O in
Speaker 2: any kind of negative light too late.
Speaker 1: He could at Origron's a really good coach. I really
Speaker 1: like LSU.
Speaker 2: He could never even sniff Dabo Sweeney and still be
Speaker 2: very good at LSU and build LSU into something more
Speaker 2: than they've been the previous fifteen years. It's not to
Speaker 2: say that coach O is doing a bad job or
Speaker 2: is going to do a bad job. It's just Dabo
Speaker 2: is clearly at a place now in college football that
Speaker 2: puts him in rarefied air.
Speaker 1: There's something else. There's something else that should also is
Speaker 1: relevance to the discussion of whether or not at Origeron
Speaker 1: can do for LSU what Dablosweeney has done for Clemson.
Speaker 1: And this is what Dablosweeney also has going for him
Speaker 1: that LSU never ever, will you ready Georgia Tech at
Speaker 1: Syracuse now at North Carolina, Florida State, at Louisville, Boston College,
Speaker 1: at NC State, Wake Forest, Yeah, it's pretty good, not bad.
Speaker 1: It is not pretty good?
Speaker 2: All right, let's move on. This one comes from Matt.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we address this. I think I
Speaker 2: intended on addressing it.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: We might not have had time on one of our
Speaker 2: previous Q and A shows, but I thank Matt for
Speaker 2: posting this again. I think on Facebook, at what point
Speaker 2: is a team's past accomplishments irrelevant or not worth mentioning?
Speaker 2: For example, Illinois has five national championships?
Speaker 1: Wow? Five, Yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Last of which in nineteen fifty one. Does that even matter?
Speaker 2: Michigan has eleven, with the last in nineteen ninety seven,
Speaker 2: but nothing since the early nineteen hundreds. Do those other
Speaker 2: ten count? A coworker and I have the debate. It's
Speaker 2: written in a very McSweeney's esque way.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: I said thirty years is relevant. He says they are
Speaker 2: always relevant. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: Ty? If you go to my childhood bedroom, you're going
Speaker 1: to see a lot of soccer trophies. Don't think I'm
Speaker 1: getting the call up to the men's national team. I
Speaker 1: mean we're talking littered with soccer trophe not going to
Speaker 1: be starting it right back? Eh? Not me?
Speaker 2: Not me?
Speaker 1: And Christian Pulisic whatever, it's not not likely. Here's what
Speaker 1: I would say. Our friend Bud Elliott did a really
Speaker 1: nice job, and I just referenced it. He pointed out
Speaker 1: the ages of recruits when school's last won national chamceampionships.
Speaker 1: I don't have it in front of me. I need
Speaker 1: to get my laptop is where it was. But if
Speaker 1: you if a recruit is not alive the last time
Speaker 1: you won a national championship, it's not that it doesn't count,
Speaker 1: but I don't think you can really talk about your
Speaker 1: program as national championship caliber right appearing or winning the
Speaker 1: other thing. I would say if your team won a
Speaker 1: national championship when technologically the broadcast was extremely different. So
Speaker 1: here's what I'll say. If your team won an last
Speaker 1: one a national championship when it was four x three
Speaker 1: HD was not available, you're not really a national championship
Speaker 1: contending program right now. You're not. You shouldn't be thought
Speaker 1: of in that way. If we're talking about a graphics
Speaker 1: package on ABC or CBS or whoever was broadcasting the
Speaker 1: game that you're just like, oh my god, I totally
Speaker 1: forgot about that weird loop D loopy rainbow scoreboard. You're
Speaker 1: probably this is very much like you might be a
Speaker 1: redneck if but you're on a national championship contending program
Speaker 1: or not a national championship owning program. In any sort
Speaker 1: of relevant way, it has.
Speaker 2: To be within your peripheral view right in order for
Speaker 2: it to actually carry any weight. It doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: because it happened in nineteen fifty one, it doesn't count
Speaker 2: for Illinois.
Speaker 1: Of course, it counts for Ille or if the best
Speaker 1: player on that team has been working in a non
Speaker 1: football job long enough to have tenure or to have
Speaker 1: had a party celebrating how long he's been working at
Speaker 1: this nont it's gone pro in something other than football,
Speaker 1: like I think it's timed, like for Illinois specifically, they
Speaker 1: went to the rose Ball with Juice Williams. Jews Williams
Speaker 1: has probably been working somewhere for a long time, not
Speaker 1: in football. Can't really talk about Illinois as like, y, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're Rose Bowl. Yeah, it's a you know Jews Williams
Speaker 1: huh sear Bendenhall. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Of course the nineteen sixty one Yankees matter because the
Speaker 2: Yankees have won multiple times since eighteen sixty one, Right,
Speaker 2: nineteen fifty one has been a long time. It does
Speaker 2: not carry weight with it, but it certainly carries the
Speaker 2: banner and all the pomp and circumstance that came along
Speaker 2: with winning a championship. However many years ago, I can't
Speaker 2: even count that high. Yeah yeah, Red Grange, you got Rayniski.
Speaker 2: I'm looking at a list right now. You can drop
Speaker 2: all stick Bud guess you can drop all sorts of
Speaker 2: names here. Do we want to go one more college
Speaker 2: football and then close to one more college football?
Speaker 1: Maybe we got.
Speaker 2: Fifteen to twenty minutes of none?
Speaker 1: I'm ready.
Speaker 2: You can change one rule. This is from Ryan Oh.
Speaker 1: It's a good question. One rule for.
Speaker 2: The twenty nineteen season. What would it be?
Speaker 1: I've got two because that's how I roll. I'm going
Speaker 1: to ban punting. Okay, who gets excited about You get
Speaker 1: more football plays? You get twenty five percent more plays
Speaker 1: in a game like football plays. Not that punting is
Speaker 1: not a football players, but you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: Somebody under center as so. End zone PI is a
Speaker 1: touchdown in the same way that end zone holding in
Speaker 1: your own end zone or some sort of penalty committed
Speaker 1: in your own end zone is a safety. End zone
Speaker 1: PI touchdown. Boom. Okay, and obviously you're gonna have terrible
Speaker 1: calls and it's gonna swing things. But I like that
Speaker 1: idea because I don't want intentional jersey grabbing. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't feel like that's that does much for me
Speaker 1: from a football perspective.
Speaker 2: I am getting rid of targeting.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: I care about player safety, but maybe.
Speaker 1: Not as much as I should so, so if you're
Speaker 1: gonna ban targeting, then I think you should probably also
Speaker 1: ban kickoff returns.
Speaker 2: No, I'm gonna just kick offs in general. I didn't
Speaker 2: think that deep that balances it out. It does balance
Speaker 2: it out, but I'm banning targeting in part because I
Speaker 2: don't think the rule has been applied correctly and I
Speaker 2: think it gets in the way, especially since we have
Speaker 2: replay and there's still bad targeting calls. But that's a
Speaker 2: separate discussion for another podcast. Getting rid of targeting first
Speaker 2: and foremost. And I'm also allowing holding. Actually I'm allowing
Speaker 2: it on offense. I'm allowing it on defense. I just
Speaker 2: want to see how much these guys want it. If
Speaker 2: you're a defensive lineman and you're being held, you got
Speaker 2: to earn your keep to make it through that three
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty pound offensive lineman to get to the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I am saying, the guy who shouldn't have been in
Speaker 1: the PAC twelve review booth for I think it was
Speaker 1: Washington State USC. He is the only one reviewing calls
Speaker 1: for all.
Speaker 2: Only glasses ref. Can we have glasses ref? Oh no,
Speaker 2: let's not do that. But yeah, some lawyer for the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve. All right, you want to talk non football?
Speaker 2: If you've exhausted yourself, let's ridiculous football time.
Speaker 1: Let's let's pick out some non college football. So again,
Speaker 1: if you're.
Speaker 2: Listening at home, if you tuned in for the football,
Speaker 2: you're more than welcome to stay for the fun. But
Speaker 2: if you made it this far, we do appreciate it.
Speaker 2: We'll be back next week's same time, same place. We
Speaker 2: got ten or fifteen minutes. Here, let's say of non
Speaker 2: college football. Dan, I'll let you pick from the hat.
Speaker 1: Go ahead. What is the most unlikely product? Again, this
Speaker 1: is Northwestern Chad's keen Signiara, this is coming out party.
Speaker 1: What is the most unlikely product that you'd go out
Speaker 1: of your way to write a five star review for
Speaker 1: on Amazon? And he says his is a mole killing trap.
Speaker 2: A mole killing trap.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he's got he's got moles apparently destroying his yard.
Speaker 1: What is a five star review that you will go
Speaker 1: out of your way to leave for something you ordered.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be an Amazon but something online.
Speaker 2: I ordered a very cheap plastic trophy for a golf
Speaker 2: outing more of a gag gift. Yeah, that I would
Speaker 2: give a five star review. There's really nothing to review
Speaker 2: other than the fact that it didn't break when it
Speaker 2: got to That's true, So that's one I think the
Speaker 2: more practical answer, though, gag gift. The side is one
Speaker 2: of two things. Okay, I ordered the smoke detectors, remember
Speaker 2: the ones that I said I went above and beyond
Speaker 2: to make sure that they were of the safest and.
Speaker 1: The Catillac Go smoke detectors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would probably write a review. I don't know
Speaker 2: what the review would say, but I feel like they're
Speaker 2: really good quality, and I would write a review for
Speaker 2: a smoke detector. I would also write a review. I
Speaker 2: bought many more than I should have, like a dozen
Speaker 2: and a half of those like solar powered pathlights that
Speaker 2: you put out in front of the house.
Speaker 1: Have you seen these things? You know what I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: are they like the airport lights kind of things? Sort of?
Speaker 2: They're made of they're made of what I would describe
Speaker 2: as the cheapest quality plastic known to man. But because
Speaker 2: they've got the solar panel, the wee solar panel at
Speaker 2: the top, the size of like a square of duct
Speaker 2: tape on the very top, and because they light up
Speaker 2: at the same time every night reliably, I feel like
Speaker 2: they deserve a five star review.
Speaker 1: Great.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that's very unlikely the review would not be helpful,
Speaker 2: But off the top of my head, that's the direction
Speaker 2: I'm going.
Speaker 1: My wife loses her keys pretty consistently. She's a very
Speaker 1: bright person. She's just sometimes scatterbrained. And I ordered her
Speaker 1: one of those alarms that you put on your keychain
Speaker 1: that you can set off a beeping, a loud beeping
Speaker 1: from your phone. Does it actually work? It works so well, really,
Speaker 1: and it makes my day. She's probably lost her keys
Speaker 1: since we got one of these things. That was like
Speaker 1: fifteen twenty bucks, probably three four times. One, it's incredibly
Speaker 1: helpful and it works and it helps her to find
Speaker 1: her keys. But two, it's great because she forgets how
Speaker 1: to use the app, and so she has to come
Speaker 1: to me and be like, so I need to find
Speaker 1: my keys, and I know there's an app and I
Speaker 1: know you know how to use it, so and it's
Speaker 1: wonderful every time it works perfectly. And I get that
Speaker 1: situation every time. Where are we going next? We're gonna
Speaker 1: go too. Let's go to Ben.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Ben had a pretty good question. I guess people are
Speaker 1: asking about beach verus lakes or lakes versus salt question before,
Speaker 1: haven't we? I think we've done that question. I prefer
Speaker 1: the saltwater. I like waves, but I appreciate a good
Speaker 1: lake because it's easier to get a house on a
Speaker 1: lake and grill and go on pontoon boats. It's a
Speaker 1: good time. It doesn't have to be one better than
Speaker 1: the other. We can all be secure in our preferences.
Speaker 1: Bugs at the lake, don't you? There are bugs at
Speaker 1: the lake? Yeah? I go. There are bugs and sometimes
Speaker 1: humidity because of said bugs. Yeah. What was your favorite
Speaker 1: jersey to wear growing up? Tis to know? Oh, buddy,
Speaker 1: what was yours?
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I'm not going to say favorite, but I
Speaker 2: had a hodgepodge of really random jerseys. In the NBA,
Speaker 2: I was the proud owner of a Mahmud abdul Rahuf
Speaker 2: Nuggets jersey.
Speaker 1: Right, shout out to Chris Jackson slash Mahmud abd rahoof.
Speaker 2: In the NHL. I had, Yeah, that's right, I had one.
Speaker 2: I had one of those Phoenix Coyote jerseys. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: who was it? I don't remember. I believe it was
Speaker 2: the goal whoever the goalie was at the time. Either
Speaker 2: that or it didn't have a name on the back,
Speaker 2: but I had one of those. I also had a
Speaker 2: Boston Bruins jersey. It was a big Ray Bork fan
Speaker 2: back in the day.
Speaker 1: Have to be yeah.
Speaker 2: On the baseball side, I don't know if I had
Speaker 2: a jersey John Wetlands. No John Wetland jersey, thankfully David
Speaker 2: Kohane now didn't have any Yankees jerseys, okay, and I
Speaker 2: don't think I had any Giants jerseys. Chris Sabo I
Speaker 2: may have had. I know I had a number three
Speaker 2: Notre Dame jersey. But the good part about Notre Dame
Speaker 2: jerseys is because there's no name on the back, it's
Speaker 2: transferable from season to season.
Speaker 1: It was a Rick Meyer jersey.
Speaker 2: It may still be in my closet back at Mammy
Speaker 2: H's house. There was also a Penny Hardaway era for me.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I feel like every kid but I had. I had
Speaker 2: the light blue Orlando Magic version.
Speaker 1: That's a good one. Yeah one I had. I don't
Speaker 1: even know how many jerseys I had because I didn't
Speaker 1: really wasn't really a jersey person. But I loved my
Speaker 1: original Toronto Raptors Damon Stoudemier. Oh yeah, okay, purple not white,
Speaker 1: went with the purple. I loved him at Arizona. My
Speaker 1: mom went to Arizona. So I rocked that for a
Speaker 1: good chunk of time. I like it. Ty, What is
Speaker 1: your go to meal? For those? Quote? Bring something to share?
Speaker 1: Social gatherings, pot, lux, tailgates, et cetera. Ryan wants to know, Oh,
Speaker 1: go to meal? Mm hmm. I got two really good
Speaker 1: options for you. Bring something to share?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what do you What do you bring in
Speaker 1: to share? Bringing a casse role, bringing a dip? Are
Speaker 1: we assuming that I'm cooking it or are we doing
Speaker 1: something to it or arranging it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Or is it something that I could buy it like
Speaker 2: you could if you.
Speaker 1: Could have sound like fruit salad would count. Okay, So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw together a fruit salad, something that you
Speaker 1: are not just bringing from the grocery store to the gap.
Speaker 2: Why don't you go first. I need to think this
Speaker 2: one over a little bit.
Speaker 1: All right. I make a terrific charred corn salad. You
Speaker 1: throw the corn current, throw the corn cobs on the grill,
Speaker 1: and there's like a honey, seracha garlic dressing. It's charred corn,
Speaker 1: black beans, avocado, serrano chilis clanch. It's great, It's really
Speaker 1: really good. That's a recipe from a barbecue place in
Speaker 1: Atlanta called bees Crackling. And then just some homemade cookies.
Speaker 1: People are always very impressed when I've shown up, be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I made some cookies like you made these? Like yeah,
Speaker 1: I just mixed together a couple ingredients and threw together
Speaker 1: some golf balls on a pan and in the oven,
Speaker 1: and then brought them over like wow, that is incredible.
Speaker 1: So people have low expectations of most of us, So
Speaker 1: thrown together some cookies. I think it's a great call.
Speaker 2: I make a really good roasted vegetable concoction. And what
Speaker 2: I like about it is, first off, it's simple to make.
Speaker 2: You cut up vegetable. It's very vague, I know, but
Speaker 2: that's that's sort of the hidden secret. It's not so
Speaker 2: much the vegetables, because you look at them and think, oh, well,
Speaker 2: what's so special about that?
Speaker 1: What's the vehicle you're bringing it in? But there is.
Speaker 2: It Usually just a pan, standardish your pan, you cook
Speaker 2: it on a cookie sheet. But there is a honey
Speaker 2: dijon sauce that I've learned to make that is very
Speaker 2: secretly delicious.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 2: So there's more to it than meets the eye, which
Speaker 2: is one of the reasons why I like bringing it.
Speaker 1: This goes into Matt's question of could you please give
Speaker 1: a ranking of things that should be grilled? That's a
Speaker 1: who it says, maybe a top five. Okay, that's more limiting,
Speaker 1: and one underrated thing that I should try on the grill.
Speaker 1: So okay, I've got good. I've got some answers here.
Speaker 1: Do you ever grill a banana? No? I haven't. I
Speaker 1: don't really love bananas. I's good.
Speaker 2: It's it's tough to grill, but it's actually pretty.
Speaker 1: Good if you do it correctly. My underrated answer is peaches.
Speaker 1: I will slice up some peaches, I will bathe them
Speaker 1: in honey water for a little bit. I will charm
Speaker 1: on the grill and then crank some sea salt on
Speaker 1: top of those suckers when they when they're ready and charred.
Speaker 1: Okat sweet and sour sweet and salt, not sour sweet
Speaker 1: and salty salty, because the honey gives you a nice
Speaker 1: caramelization on it. So it's wonderful, especially if you're into
Speaker 1: ice cream. It's sort of like a it's a peach
Speaker 1: cobbler without any cobble. It's great. I would, you know,
Speaker 1: marinate some carne asada, anything that cooks quickly on a grill,
Speaker 1: So any thin steak that's marinated, like bulgogi, You want
Speaker 1: some Korean barbecue, Oh, it's wonderful. It is very rare
Speaker 1: that I will have a lot of people over and
Speaker 1: do some sort of big grill cookout style thing without
Speaker 1: just making a mount of onions and peppers on the grill.
Speaker 2: I'll change the question around a little bit and say
Speaker 2: that I think chicken is overrated on the grill, and
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 1: Chicken marinated chicken this can be really good on the grill.
Speaker 2: Chicken thighs, yes, yeah, because there's that natural built in
Speaker 2: moisture to it. Yeah, But like chicken breast It's very
Speaker 2: easy to screw that. Oh yeah, yeah, very easy to
Speaker 2: screw that up. Now, if you lather enough barbecue sauce
Speaker 2: on it, you can make anything taste good.
Speaker 1: I'm living in a PBW. It's I'm living in a
Speaker 1: post breast world. Yeah, okay. I would also say, if
Speaker 1: you can get a pizza steel, you throw the pan,
Speaker 1: the pizza pan essentially on the grill for like forty
Speaker 1: five minutes until it's like six hundred degrees. Then you
Speaker 1: put the pizza on that and absorbs the heat really well,
Speaker 1: and you get a great pie on them. You've been
Speaker 1: and called a kettle pizza. Yeah, you've been pumpingy.
Speaker 2: You've been any for like months now because you know
Speaker 2: that we're putting the patio on the back here to
Speaker 2: try and buy. How much does this thing costs? This contraption?
Speaker 2: Like eight hundred Well a.
Speaker 1: Really good one, yes, a really good tabletop pizza oven.
Speaker 1: We'll set you back seven eight hundred bucks. But I
Speaker 1: think you can do pretty well for two or three
Speaker 1: hundred bucks. That might be a little too rich for
Speaker 1: my blood. You like pizza, but maybe not that much.
Speaker 1: You know how there are dance moms that are living
Speaker 1: vicariously through their four or five six year old, and
Speaker 1: they're you know, stage moms. They're like pushing them too
Speaker 1: hard to fulfill their own dreams. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: a patio dad. Yeah, I feel like living in an
Speaker 1: apartment as you build a patio. I'm trying to live
Speaker 1: vicariously through you. All right? I love this question? Are
Speaker 1: you ready? Due to circumstances beyond my control? This comes
Speaker 1: to us from an anonymous verballer WHOA, my wedding is
Speaker 1: going to have to be somewhat limited time wise with
Speaker 1: an open dance floor about two hours. How do I
Speaker 1: make sure the dance floor stays full for the entirety
Speaker 1: of the two hours? Please don't use my name on air.
Speaker 1: That comes to us from Oh wow, they're really famous. Okay, sorry, Ty,
Speaker 1: what's your answer?
Speaker 2: Okay, my wedding is going to have a somewhat limited
Speaker 2: time with an open dance floor.
Speaker 1: Yeah about.
Speaker 2: I don't know what closed dance floors are, but I'm
Speaker 2: ready to figure it out. How do I make sure
Speaker 2: the dance floor stays full for the full keep the
Speaker 2: party going?
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 2: So what Anonymous has not specified here is the other
Speaker 2: circumstances surrounding the wedding. Is there an open bar that helps?
Speaker 1: Believe me? That helps well. That does take people away
Speaker 1: from the dance floor, though if there takes people going
Speaker 1: to dance floor, yeah, but not if you have a
Speaker 1: good pre reception ceremony with an open bar, if you
Speaker 1: get people liquored up enough by the time they get
Speaker 1: to the dance floor, they're a little bit more likely
Speaker 1: to get out there. You ever go to a wedding
Speaker 1: with a bar on the dance floor, because I have
Speaker 1: had that work out. In each corner of the dance
Speaker 1: floor there was a little tequila cart where you could
Speaker 1: either get shots of tequila or little margarita shots, and
Speaker 1: people loved it.
Speaker 2: That'll help, right, That will help help. Yeah, So that's
Speaker 2: the first thing. Open bar, preferably before you get to
Speaker 2: the dance floor I think helps. Secondly, it might be obvious,
Speaker 2: but good music, good music, a live band, that'll help.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: But good music first and foremost I think is is
Speaker 2: going to get people out there, and then if you
Speaker 2: can nudge them a little bit more out onto the
Speaker 2: dance floor with a good liquor situation, that's probably your
Speaker 2: best bet.
Speaker 1: I would also say Cocktail Weenies, Cocktail Weenie Fountain in
Speaker 1: the middle of the dance floor. Music wise, lean heavy
Speaker 1: on like a middle ground era of songs. So you're
Speaker 1: not going uptown funk and you're not necessarily going my girl.
Speaker 1: You gotta find the happy medium where the older part
Speaker 1: of the crowd is familiar and the younger part of
Speaker 1: the crowd is familiar. So is in sync to modern
Speaker 1: I think that's too modern, too modern, Okay, I would say, okay,
Speaker 1: everybody wants to dance to shout. That's facts only, right, Sure,
Speaker 1: I want to dance with somebody. You make my dreams
Speaker 1: sign sealed delivery. It's a little older, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, ain't no mountain high enough. Everybody still loves it.
Speaker 1: But like foot Loose Jackson five, I want you back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that I think if you lean into oh yes, of
Speaker 1: course I've heard this song, and then like everybody younger
Speaker 1: like hell yeah, I want you back. So I think
Speaker 1: that's the move where you're not alienating somebody with your music.
Speaker 1: What about electric Slide, it's a good time. I would
Speaker 1: do it a little bit later on, when the tequila
Speaker 1: card is really pumped in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Macarina, some popular ones like that will do the trick.
Speaker 1: You're losing people. You're losing people. It's real stationary, which
Speaker 1: will appeal to the older crowd, but I think you're
Speaker 1: losing the younger crowd. There.
Speaker 2: It's a good question, Anonymous. I hope your wedding goes well.
Speaker 1: I hope it does too. This is from just some guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's too Dan, that's me and Ti, but mostly
Speaker 1: maybe then I went through it.
Speaker 2: Let me read it then, Okay, if it's to you,
Speaker 2: My wife and I just found out we are expecting
Speaker 2: our first child in late December. Congratulations, just some guy.
Speaker 2: Two questions here? Question one here, Dan, what is the
Speaker 2: number one thing you did to make Jody with an
Speaker 2: Eyes life better during her pregnancy?
Speaker 1: So I can speak very specifically to this because one,
Speaker 1: I'm a dad. The solid baby looks a little bit
Speaker 1: like me, so Ven firmed. Two he was born in
Speaker 1: late January, so winter baby, I would say. Jody with
Speaker 1: and I did not really have morning sickness. And part
Speaker 1: of that is just luck, but part of it is
Speaker 1: also right when she woke up, she started pumping carbs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just I woke up and I made her toast, got
Speaker 1: some granola bars. You know, whatever whatever was she was
Speaker 1: craving that. You hit that real early. It sets the tone.
Speaker 1: Drink a lot of water, make sure there's always water around.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you live in a big city
Speaker 1: or not. And so we're used taking public transportation places,
Speaker 1: but like after dinner, she'd be a little uncomfortable. So
Speaker 1: more cabs and ubers. I don't love doing that, but
Speaker 1: I said, sure, let's take more cabs and ubers, more
Speaker 1: ac than usual. It already feels freezing, but sure, uh huh,
Speaker 1: let's do it. So that's how I made her more comfortable.
Speaker 1: I would say his number two.
Speaker 2: Point, number two point help me choose a baby moon destination.
Speaker 2: He says, we live in Chicago, so really anywhere in
Speaker 2: the continental United States is fair game. I'm just going
Speaker 2: to say, if you're doing baby moon, and presumably your
Speaker 2: wife is mid pregnancy.
Speaker 1: It'll be in the warmer time a year. Yeah, warmer
Speaker 1: time of year.
Speaker 2: I don't think you want to lump on top of
Speaker 2: that a longer plane ride. Planes are uncomfortable enough, as
Speaker 2: is maybe something maybe a nice road trip somewhere you
Speaker 2: can drive to.
Speaker 1: I would say that is spot on. Luckily they're in Chicago,
Speaker 1: so they're pretty central. Don't go anywhere humid if it's
Speaker 1: over the summer, so that probably eliminates most of the South,
Speaker 1: unless there's a part of the South that doesn't get
Speaker 1: humid over the summer that I don't know about. But
Speaker 1: because you are central, we consider two places that were
Speaker 1: opposite coasts. One would have been a very long flight,
Speaker 1: and I'm still kind of bummed we didn't go. But
Speaker 1: that was Pacific Northwest, not super humid up there. Seattle, Portland, Vancouver.
Speaker 1: Great food on the water, it's you can hike, you
Speaker 1: can just chill, you can go to if you're into
Speaker 1: going to independent record stores. Come on. Nothing no better
Speaker 1: area than that. But we ended up going to Maine,
Speaker 1: which also ruled it was great. We went to Portland, Maine,
Speaker 1: which you can fly into from Chicago. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: the food there is incredible. It's super walkable. If you
Speaker 1: feel like being on your feet a ton, you can be.
Speaker 1: If you don't, you can just chill and eat oysters
Speaker 1: and whatever. And two we drove up to bar Harbor, Acadia.
Speaker 1: My wife bah Bah Jody with and I was what
Speaker 1: five six months pregnant. We totally dominated Acadia a lot
Speaker 1: of easier hikes, but it's beautiful, beautiful, beautiful up there
Speaker 1: was not humid again, great food. I'd never been to Maine.
Speaker 1: I have zero regret about doing it. I had a
Speaker 1: wonderful time.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Aarin here. Question for a
Speaker 2: generation good one. What are your thoughts on groomsman gifts?
Speaker 2: Most are alcohol related? And after being in a bridal
Speaker 2: party for a dozen or so weddings, I have all
Speaker 2: the engraved flasks I will ever need. Follow up question,
Speaker 2: can you give a power ranking.
Speaker 1: Of the different levels groom and gifts?
Speaker 2: Okay, so just let's I mean, he's got a bunch here.
Speaker 2: Let's let's talk through our theories around groomsman gifts I gave. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I So we did two things. First Off, they everyone
Speaker 2: bought suits for our wedding and we were able to
Speaker 2: negotiate a pretty serious discount, so everyone ended up getting
Speaker 2: a decent suit at a very very reasonable price. But secondly,
Speaker 2: everyone got the tie as well, so we threw in
Speaker 2: the tie. I agree completely with Aaron. Don't go with
Speaker 2: the engraved flask please, yeah, please? So I've never used
Speaker 2: mine once. What is the best gift that you've received
Speaker 2: as a groomsman, I received a toilet a tree bag.
Speaker 1: Oh that actually I liked that a lot.
Speaker 2: I received a toiletry bag with an engraved or I
Speaker 2: guess not engraved, an embroidered h on it that I
Speaker 2: use still to this day, probably ten years later. That
Speaker 2: was the best gift I've gotten. It's simple, it was
Speaker 2: probably very affordable, and it's got extreme utility.
Speaker 1: If you were a groomsman for me, and I had
Speaker 1: gotten you that gift, which I think is a very
Speaker 1: good idea great a one percent, would have been beautifully
Speaker 1: embroidered whatever it was cloth or leather, it would have
Speaker 1: been beautifully and tastefully embroidered with ties potty bag. It
Speaker 1: would have really gone for that irony there.
Speaker 2: But I thought that would have gone with Pinch Stripe
Speaker 2: Bowl champions But that's now that's it went up.
Speaker 1: It would be lined with the Penn Stripe Bowl Championship shirt.
Speaker 1: I don't I mean, you get a portable charger, that's great.
Speaker 1: I just want I want something useful. I want people
Speaker 1: to get something useful out of it. Maybe it's embroidered,
Speaker 1: whatever it's engraved, I would probably go If I get
Speaker 1: married again, which I really hope I don't have to.
Speaker 1: I would probably do what my friend Scott gave both
Speaker 1: Jody and myself as gifts for the Solid Baby, which
Speaker 1: were really just gifts for us premium sweatpants, m premium sweats,
Speaker 1: because I know they're just going to get a ton
Speaker 1: of use. They don't need to be personalized whatever. If
Speaker 1: I don't know what brand does the best and softest
Speaker 1: and most ridiculously comfortable sweatpants, that's what I'm doing. I'm
Speaker 1: not overthinking it. I'm just giving somebody a gift that
Speaker 1: they're going to get a ton of use out of.
Speaker 1: Or fire extinguishers, yeah, okay, or just something that will
Speaker 1: save their life.
Speaker 2: I've got two more questions here, and then we'll go
Speaker 2: all right, let's do it along the same lines of
Speaker 2: a wedding. Someone writes in going to a wedding this
Speaker 2: weekend an old coworker of mine. The entire table I
Speaker 2: will be at is former co workers and boss that
Speaker 2: don't exactly love each other.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I'm expecting several to be openly hostile with one another.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on how I should approach.
Speaker 1: This, Oh gosh, hit on all of their daughters, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if they're of age, I don't know. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's the only one that he knows there, Like
Speaker 1: outside of these uncomfortable coworkers, I can get hit the
Speaker 1: dance floor hard. I don't know, stay away, leave early.
Speaker 1: I think can have a great time. And he says
Speaker 1: it here I didn't read it. He says that he
Speaker 1: is the Switzerland of the group. Nobody really hates me,
Speaker 1: at least not that I know of. So that puts
Speaker 1: you in a situation. I guess you could. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess you could find a common enemy. Like if nobody
Speaker 1: there is from accountant and they're like, oh, these idiots
Speaker 1: accounting couldn't even make it, and you find the common enemy.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 2: I think it's actually quite simple for him. If he
Speaker 2: is it's your lind Yeah. And if to his knowledge
Speaker 2: no one has beef with him, he should be able
Speaker 2: to go up to whoever he wants and chat with them.
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be awkward for him. He says,
Speaker 2: there's an open bar. He literally will not know anyone
Speaker 2: else at the wedding, and he's wearing a light purple
Speaker 2: shirt with navy pants, so that that's friendly. That gives
Speaker 2: you a talking point you can break the eyes pretty easily.
Speaker 2: And if no one hates you, you should have the
Speaker 2: latitude to go up to whoever you want, just chat
Speaker 2: him up at your take, shat him up.
Speaker 1: But like, the only thing you have in common with them?
Speaker 1: Is this what it is? An ex coworker? He says,
Speaker 1: it's limited, the old limited ceiling of yeah, old coworker. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So you don't really have much talk about you just
Speaker 1: catching up about kids and stuff like that. So you
Speaker 1: make small talk. You go up to the bride and groom.
Speaker 1: You're like, listen, I'm so touched that you invited me.
Speaker 1: At some point, I'm gonna leave, and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: probably not gonna say goodbye because you're saying go bye
Speaker 1: to all sorts of people, and then you usually fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes later.
Speaker 2: Two other points here that I want to bring up
Speaker 2: before we get to our final question. Okay, yeah, two
Speaker 2: other ways that you could play it, sir, if you're interested.
Speaker 2: Depends how dangerous you feel. Oh god, he says. He's
Speaker 2: wearing the purple shirt and the navy pants, white purple shirt.
Speaker 2: You're colorful, he says, literally, he won't know anyone else
Speaker 2: at the wedding. There's a chancey single.
Speaker 1: Yeah, colorful plus one yeah friendly.
Speaker 2: That could be a nice recipe for you, just saying,
Speaker 2: or option B if you're really feeling saucy right before
Speaker 2: you're ready to leave. If these aren't people that you're
Speaker 2: particularly friendly with, maybe just throw a nice little grenade
Speaker 2: at the table and say, then you guys all used
Speaker 2: to hate each other, and then leave.
Speaker 1: I mean, then you don't really get to see the fireworks, though.
Speaker 2: Just get the party started. Leave on a high note.
Speaker 2: Assume that you're going to get the fireworks started.
Speaker 1: Okay, that just seems evil. I like you. I like
Speaker 1: where your head is at, though I do final we
Speaker 1: have a final duo of questions final due all right,
Speaker 1: span the same topic.
Speaker 2: This is the most random question we got from a
Speaker 2: long time listener. Okay, iuld you rather fight a silver
Speaker 2: backed gorilla or take a two year prison sentence? Uh?
Speaker 1: To your prison. There's a chance that I can go
Speaker 1: to a nicer minimum security.
Speaker 2: Also, if you fight a gorilla, it will kill you
Speaker 2: so that it will answer sentence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's two questions about wedding speeches, key ingredients? Any
Speaker 1: tips for a speech.
Speaker 2: Toast compliment the bride early? I always, always, always and
Speaker 2: don't try to be funny.
Speaker 1: Don't try to be funny.
Speaker 2: It's really hard to be funny under pressure unless your
Speaker 2: pros like Dan and I. Yeah, don't try to be
Speaker 2: funny under pressure. It usually isn't as funny as you think.
Speaker 1: Usually you'll say something that isn't meant to be funny,
Speaker 1: but you sort of deliver it in an awkward fun
Speaker 1: way and it'll get laughs.
Speaker 2: Compliment the bride early, the good Yeah, it's the best tip.
Speaker 2: Compliment her early. Get on the good side of the crowd,
Speaker 2: and then don't try to be funny. Something from the heart,
Speaker 2: something genuine, keep it short, get off the stage.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about your friendship with the bride or groom.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about your friendship with the bride and groom
Speaker 1: and other friends there at table seventeen. Yeah, your speech
Speaker 1: should be about their relationship. Thank you, the two people
Speaker 1: getting married. Such a good point. It should be under
Speaker 1: three minutes. You introduce yourself, you introduce your the relationship
Speaker 1: to the bride and groomer whoever's getting married, and you
Speaker 1: talk about how you know whoever, and then you say
Speaker 1: Ted has always been like this. Ted has always been
Speaker 1: pretty wild, but deep down, he's a big softy And
Speaker 1: that's when I knew when he met Alison that they
Speaker 1: were going to get along because and you're just you're
Speaker 1: honoring them as a couple. You're not talking about everybody
Speaker 1: knows you like your friend. Dig deep and find something
Speaker 1: likable about them as a couple, and then get off
Speaker 1: the stage. You're doing great because the odds are you
Speaker 1: probably had a couple of drinks. Yep, So just edit, edit,
Speaker 1: keep it about the couple and why it's great that
Speaker 1: they're getting married.
Speaker 2: Everyone wants to hit the home run with the speech. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how about you just try to make contact. How about
Speaker 2: you hit a single? How about you get on first base?
Speaker 2: How about you get the run in a sacrifice fly?
Speaker 2: Just don't strike out?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Four yards of carry.
Speaker 2: All right, Dan, We've covered some ground here, haven't.
Speaker 1: We We have. I've been very happy with this, all right.
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Speaker 2: you enjoy your Memorial Day weekend.
Speaker 1: I will try my best for one out there.
Speaker 2: If you're on the way to a picnic or a party,
Speaker 2: please do travel safely. We hope to hear from you
Speaker 2: and talk at you about a week from today.
Speaker 1: Drink your Japanese pickle juice soda, Drip it down.
Speaker 2: For that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubenstein,
Speaker 2: form myself, Tie Hildebrandt. Enjoy the rest of your week,
Speaker 2: all of your holiday weekend, and in the meantime, stay
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