WEBVTT - What's Old Is New!  

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<v Speaker 1>What's old is new. It's one more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm one more thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna talk about summertime for kids coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and a hot new phrase that everybody's

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<v Speaker 1>discussing thanks to the New York Times. See if you

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<v Speaker 1>agree or disagree. But we'll get to that in just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. We don't. We don't do what Katie why.

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<v Speaker 1>It was show's favorite catchy new words. Yeah, catch a

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<v Speaker 1>new phrases.

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<v Speaker 2>Used to be they would have to like reach you naturally.

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<v Speaker 2>Now some wise ass little thirteen year old punk can

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<v Speaker 2>come up with a phrase in Bayonne, New Jersey, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm it's inflicted on me by the next afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want it, not in the market. So we

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<v Speaker 1>don't usually do breaking news on the podcast. He's here.

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<v Speaker 1>He will be listening to this days or years later.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know when. But this is pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is something, And if you're listening in the future,

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<v Speaker 2>this will remind you of Trump's crazy style of communicating.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's as we as we speak on the seventeenth,

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<v Speaker 2>Is that right? A June twenty twenty five. The whole

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<v Speaker 2>israel Aron thing is that it's peak and whether we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to rub out the Iyatola's question in the air,

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<v Speaker 2>and Trump tweets out, we know exactly where the so

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<v Speaker 2>called Supreme Leader is hiding. He is an easy target,

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<v Speaker 2>but as safe there, we are not going to take

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<v Speaker 2>him out kill in parentheses with an exclamation point for now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we know what you mean by tak him out. We

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<v Speaker 2>didn't assume we meant take him out for dinner. We

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<v Speaker 2>knew you meant you're gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>F and kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill. Well, look, kill, We're not going to take him out,

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<v Speaker 2>kill chains. We're not going to take him out kill

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<v Speaker 2>at least not for now. But we don't want missiles

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<v Speaker 2>shot at civilians or American soldiers. Our patients is wearing thin.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for your attention to this matter. No, that's

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<v Speaker 2>actually the end of it for you for your attention

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<v Speaker 2>Appy email.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a little of his old CEO days slipped in

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<v Speaker 1>there at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, we noticed your dues for the Bedminster Golf Club

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<v Speaker 2>have been overdue now for a week. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>your attention to this matter.

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<v Speaker 1>People are using too many paper cups at the water dispenser,

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<v Speaker 1>please try to cut back. Thank you for your attention

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<v Speaker 1>to this matter.

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly that's like after Israel blows up a building Iran

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<v Speaker 4>and says, we apologize for the inconvenience, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Or yeah, destroyed Turan. Good luck in your future endeavors.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>please feel free to email our team at customer service

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your attention to this matter. Was he

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be funny? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, obviously he's got to understand how horrifically funny

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<v Speaker 2>that is.

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<v Speaker 1>You think, all right, well, we'll see where that goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna skip the other thing we're gonna do right

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<v Speaker 1>to the hot phrase for summertime. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you read this article in the New York Times. It

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<v Speaker 1>caused many tongues to wag and columns to be written

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<v Speaker 1>all around the world. Really, as New York Times unleashed

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<v Speaker 1>upon us the term kid rotting for the summertime and

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<v Speaker 1>rotting as is, your kids are rotting, And it's ended

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<v Speaker 1>up going back and forth with a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where I am on this, but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of not having a whole bunch of planned

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<v Speaker 1>camps and activities for your kids, and they just hang

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<v Speaker 1>out on the couch doing nothing all summer, to which

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people the kid rotting, to which a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have replied, that sounds like what my

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<v Speaker 1>summers were like, And I freaking loved them. Yeah, just

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out doing nothing with no plans whatsoever. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>those days. You get up, you had no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna do today, and and it was just a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of things and are kind of nothing or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was awesome. The sense of freedom was awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the modern version of that staring at a screen. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>that's where it gets interesting. None of that stuff you

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<v Speaker 2>said will happen. It'll just be staring at screens, he says.

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<v Speaker 1>But and I'm I'm I you know, I lean real

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<v Speaker 1>far toward that is it's not only it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>a waste of time. It affects your brain and your

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<v Speaker 1>attention span. But that aside, if the if, the if.

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<v Speaker 1>The alternative is all kinds of camps and planned activities

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<v Speaker 1>versus just hang out and do whatever all day long.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know why I've got this weird resistance

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<v Speaker 1>since I got to do that a lot as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>my my oldest, my high school son. He is not

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<v Speaker 1>into video games and stuff like that near as much.

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<v Speaker 1>He does a lot of bike riding with his friends

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<v Speaker 1>and all that sort of stuff. But man, I picked

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<v Speaker 1>him and his friends up yesterday. He texted me and said,

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<v Speaker 1>we are just too worn out. We're over at my

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<v Speaker 1>friend Zach's house. Could you come pick us up and

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<v Speaker 1>bring us over to our house. We're just we've been

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<v Speaker 1>riding and it's hot, Okay. I said, give me twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a couple of things that could do. But

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<v Speaker 1>I went and picked them up. And I hadn't been

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<v Speaker 1>around this vibe in forty years, but fifty years. But

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<v Speaker 1>just the level of happy, relaxed the world is our

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<v Speaker 1>oyster these three fifteen year olds had with their bikes.

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<v Speaker 1>He loaded them up in my truck and they got in.

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<v Speaker 1>They were just joking and laughing and they were just

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<v Speaker 1>doing nothing all day long and they're gonna do nothing

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the day but just hang out and

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<v Speaker 1>be teenagers. And it just looked fantastic.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I love that, Katie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that too. But I'm wondering if parents are.

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<v Speaker 3>Signing their kids up for so much stuff because they

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<v Speaker 3>don't want them on their screens all summer. You know

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<v Speaker 3>what I mean, because I, as a kid, I got

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<v Speaker 3>signed up for stuff, but my parents didn't have to

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<v Speaker 3>worry about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well right, Sometimes signing kids up for stuff is

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<v Speaker 1>your daycare for the summer since the school is out,

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<v Speaker 1>and you need to put yeah yeah, and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Although the you know what's happening around those schedule activities

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<v Speaker 2>have changed. Back in the day, it was what Jack

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<v Speaker 2>was describing. There's nothing scheduled. You're just free to do

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<v Speaker 2>what you want, or you can invent or hook up

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<v Speaker 2>with your friends, be bored together. Invente gave blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the you know, the surrounding of the scheduled event

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<v Speaker 2>is many more scheduled events. And as a fierce advocate

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<v Speaker 2>of free range parenting, I totally agree with you in principle, Jack,

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<v Speaker 2>is just the screen thing.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you wing out? What would you do? What

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<v Speaker 1>would you recommend?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I carefully scheduled free time, you will absolutely show

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<v Speaker 2>up on time ten a m. For the do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want.

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<v Speaker 1>Man. I go back and forth with this, my thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>year old all the time. I've gotten to the point

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<v Speaker 1>where I say, I can't say it again. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>say it for the eight millionth time because I tried

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<v Speaker 1>it to limit his screen time. I don't like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not as disciplined on it as a lot of my

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<v Speaker 1>friends are, where they've got like a timer on their

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<v Speaker 1>Internet or you know, their stopwatch going on it or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and they limit to that however many hours. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just like, when I feel like it's been enough, to say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's enough screens, So find something to do with that.

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<v Speaker 1>But what will I do? And I always say I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I say I can't say it again. I just can't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't list the things again. Walk the dog,

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<v Speaker 1>ride a bike, write something, play a musical instrument, draw, run, exercise,

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<v Speaker 1>I swim, we got a pool. Just I can't list

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<v Speaker 1>the million things you could do that aren't looking at

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<v Speaker 1>his But do one of them, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>One of those four hundred and eighty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Videos you just watched. Do one of those things, those

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<v Speaker 1>like the things. You're the guy in the video, not

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<v Speaker 1>the guy watching the video.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, asking that question that way is as natural

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<v Speaker 2>as like your fingernails growing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what am I supposed to do. It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember asking my mom that, Yeah, George Washington's kids,

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<v Speaker 2>we're asking him, what.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I supposed to do? Kids? Get out of the cave,

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<v Speaker 1>your mom and I need to make your brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Right right, Go play with the other you know, pre syllabic,

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<v Speaker 2>non language speaking, grunting cave kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's dinosaurs out there. I don't care. Get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the cave.

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<v Speaker 4>Jack, when the kids were in the backseat the car,

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<v Speaker 4>did you tell them that life goes downhill?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's just all that I have had that conversation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're happy. Now enjoy it while you can, because life

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<v Speaker 1>is nothing but a big disappointment.

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<v Speaker 2>Grind it out as you work for some bastards you

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<v Speaker 2>don't like, You don't respect that. He hasn't care.

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<v Speaker 1>About I have said that day I bed year old.

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<v Speaker 1>Like me, I have said to my son which I

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<v Speaker 1>probablyhouldn't say, because he wants, he wants to get Next

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<v Speaker 1>year he'll be able to get a job at a

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<v Speaker 1>variety of places that he wants to go, because you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be sixteen. But anyway, I say, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you'll start working, and then you will work until you're

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<v Speaker 1>sold and nearly dead, that none of this will matter anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you'll never stop ever again. And it's true,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't know if you need to lay that

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<v Speaker 1>out when you're sixteen years old.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's so funny. We just got an email from

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<v Speaker 2>some pr group pitching a guest who wants to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the kid rotting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the hot phrase, man's thing. Kid rotting is a

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<v Speaker 1>hot phrase. So New York was really on the time

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<v Speaker 1>on the side of uh, you know, we used to

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<v Speaker 1>call we didn't used to call it rotting. We used

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<v Speaker 1>to just call it summertime. And then there's been the pushback,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously with the screen stuff, and so yeah, it's become

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<v Speaker 1>a whole thing. But I do even if you eliminate

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<v Speaker 1>the screens, I know a lot of parents who would

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<v Speaker 1>think it would be horrible if their kids just hung

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<v Speaker 1>out with no plans every day and did nothing. Using

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<v Speaker 1>my finger quotes, it's impossible, as my son always points out,

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<v Speaker 1>to do nothing. Even if you're doing nothing, you're doing something,

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<v Speaker 1>and you lay around and do nothing for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>but you'll come up with something because you just out

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<v Speaker 1>of necessity.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's interesting this guest pitch is actually a woman

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<v Speaker 2>with Campfire. I think it used to be Campfire Girls

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever, but it's Campfire. It's a youth development organization.

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<v Speaker 2>And she believes the conversation misses the real distinction. Not

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<v Speaker 2>all boredom is created equal. There's a huge difference between

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<v Speaker 2>head down boredom, head down boredom zoning out on screens,

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<v Speaker 2>disconnected from others, and head up boredom that sparks activity,

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<v Speaker 2>problem solving, and self discovery.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an interesting turn.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she pitches that camp boredom isn't a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a portal drift. What becomes a fort, seashells become currency,

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<v Speaker 2>and a toilet paper roll becomes binoculars.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's not gonna help you see anything up close.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just ineffective binoculars.

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<v Speaker 1>Certainly, yes, the distance will seem exactly the same. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think these are working.

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<v Speaker 4>Jack could have just said, you know, kids, sometimes I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like just taking this car and driving it off

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<v Speaker 4>a cliff.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I guess that's it.