1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,840 Speaker 1: What's old is new. It's one more thing. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 2: I'm one more thing. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about summertime for kids coming up in 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: a little bit, and a hot new phrase that everybody's 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: discussing thanks to the New York Times. See if you 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: agree or disagree. But we'll get to that in just 7 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: a little bit. We don't. We don't do what Katie why. 8 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: It was show's favorite catchy new words. Yeah, catch a 9 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: new phrases. 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 2: Used to be they would have to like reach you naturally. 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: Now some wise ass little thirteen year old punk can 12 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: come up with a phrase in Bayonne, New Jersey, and 13 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 2: I'm it's inflicted on me by the next afternoon. 14 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: I don't want it, not in the market. So we 15 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 1: don't usually do breaking news on the podcast. He's here. 16 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: He will be listening to this days or years later. 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: I don't know when. But this is pretty good. 18 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: It really is something, And if you're listening in the future, 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 2: this will remind you of Trump's crazy style of communicating. 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: So it's as we as we speak on the seventeenth, 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: Is that right? A June twenty twenty five. The whole 22 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 2: israel Aron thing is that it's peak and whether we're 23 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 2: going to rub out the Iyatola's question in the air, 24 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: and Trump tweets out, we know exactly where the so 25 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 2: called Supreme Leader is hiding. He is an easy target, 26 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: but as safe there, we are not going to take 27 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 2: him out kill in parentheses with an exclamation point for now. Yeah, 28 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: we know what you mean by tak him out. We 29 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,960 Speaker 2: didn't assume we meant take him out for dinner. We 30 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 2: knew you meant you're gonna. 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 1: F and kill him. 32 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 2: Kill. Well, look, kill, We're not going to take him out, 33 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 2: kill chains. We're not going to take him out kill 34 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: at least not for now. But we don't want missiles 35 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 2: shot at civilians or American soldiers. Our patients is wearing thin. 36 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: Thank you for your attention to this matter. No, that's 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 2: actually the end of it for you for your attention 38 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 2: Appy email. 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little of his old CEO days slipped in 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: there at the end. 41 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: Wow. 42 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: Hey, we noticed your dues for the Bedminster Golf Club 43 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 2: have been overdue now for a week. Thank you for 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 2: your attention to this matter. 45 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: People are using too many paper cups at the water dispenser, 46 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: please try to cut back. Thank you for your attention 47 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: to this matter. 48 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 4: Exactly that's like after Israel blows up a building Iran 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 4: and says, we apologize for the inconvenience, all right. 50 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: Or yeah, destroyed Turan. Good luck in your future endeavors. 51 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 52 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 2: If you have any questions about the coming power vacuum, 53 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 2: please feel free to email our team at customer service 54 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: at Israel bombas dot com. 55 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: Thank you for your attention to this matter. Was he 56 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: trying to be funny? I don't know. 57 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously he's got to understand how horrifically funny 58 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 2: that is. 59 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: You think, all right, well, we'll see where that goes. 60 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip the other thing we're gonna do right 61 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: to the hot phrase for summertime. I don't know if 62 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: you read this article in the New York Times. It 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: caused many tongues to wag and columns to be written 64 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: all around the world. Really, as New York Times unleashed 65 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: upon us the term kid rotting for the summertime and 66 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: rotting as is, your kids are rotting, And it's ended 67 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: up going back and forth with a lot of people. 68 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: I don't know where I am on this, but uh, 69 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: the idea of not having a whole bunch of planned 70 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: camps and activities for your kids, and they just hang 71 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: out on the couch doing nothing all summer, to which 72 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people the kid rotting, to which a 73 00:03:55,280 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: lot of people have replied, that sounds like what my 74 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: summers were like, And I freaking loved them. Yeah, just 75 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: hanging out doing nothing with no plans whatsoever. I remember 76 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: those days. You get up, you had no idea what 77 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna do today, and and it was just a 78 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: variety of things and are kind of nothing or whatever. 79 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: And it was awesome. The sense of freedom was awesome. 80 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 2: Was the modern version of that staring at a screen. Well, 81 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: that's where it gets interesting. None of that stuff you 82 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 2: said will happen. It'll just be staring at screens, he says. 83 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: But and I'm I'm I you know, I lean real 84 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: far toward that is it's not only it's not just 85 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: a waste of time. It affects your brain and your 86 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: attention span. But that aside, if the if, the if. 87 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: The alternative is all kinds of camps and planned activities 88 00:04:45,120 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: versus just hang out and do whatever all day long. 89 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: And I don't know why I've got this weird resistance 90 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 1: since I got to do that a lot as a kid, 91 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: my my oldest, my high school son. He is not 92 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: into video games and stuff like that near as much. 93 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: He does a lot of bike riding with his friends 94 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. But man, I picked 95 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: him and his friends up yesterday. He texted me and said, 96 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: we are just too worn out. We're over at my 97 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: friend Zach's house. Could you come pick us up and 98 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: bring us over to our house. We're just we've been 99 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: riding and it's hot, Okay. I said, give me twenty minutes. 100 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: I got a couple of things that could do. But 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: I went and picked them up. And I hadn't been 102 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: around this vibe in forty years, but fifty years. But 103 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: just the level of happy, relaxed the world is our 104 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: oyster these three fifteen year olds had with their bikes. 105 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: He loaded them up in my truck and they got in. 106 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: They were just joking and laughing and they were just 107 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: doing nothing all day long and they're gonna do nothing 108 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: the rest of the day but just hang out and 109 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: be teenagers. And it just looked fantastic. 110 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 2: Well I love that, Katie. 111 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that too. But I'm wondering if parents are. 112 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: Signing their kids up for so much stuff because they 113 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 3: don't want them on their screens all summer. You know 114 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 3: what I mean, because I, as a kid, I got 115 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 3: signed up for stuff, but my parents didn't have to 116 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 3: worry about that. 117 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well right, Sometimes signing kids up for stuff is 118 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: your daycare for the summer since the school is out, 119 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: and you need to put yeah yeah, and that's fine. 120 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:23,039 Speaker 2: Although the you know what's happening around those schedule activities 121 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: have changed. Back in the day, it was what Jack 122 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 2: was describing. There's nothing scheduled. You're just free to do 123 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 2: what you want, or you can invent or hook up 124 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 2: with your friends, be bored together. Invente gave blah blah blah. 125 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 2: Now the you know, the surrounding of the scheduled event 126 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 2: is many more scheduled events. And as a fierce advocate 127 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 2: of free range parenting, I totally agree with you in principle, Jack, 128 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 2: is just the screen thing. 129 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 1: What would you wing out? What would you do? What 130 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: would you recommend? 131 00:06:55,920 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: Because I carefully scheduled free time, you will absolutely show 132 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: up on time ten a m. For the do whatever 133 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 2: you want. 134 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Man. I go back and forth with this, my thirteen 135 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: year old all the time. I've gotten to the point 136 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 1: where I say, I can't say it again. I can't 137 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: say it for the eight millionth time because I tried 138 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: it to limit his screen time. I don't like I'm 139 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: not as disciplined on it as a lot of my 140 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: friends are, where they've got like a timer on their 141 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: Internet or you know, their stopwatch going on it or whatever, 142 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: and they limit to that however many hours. But I 143 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: just like, when I feel like it's been enough, to say, Okay, 144 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: that's that's enough screens, So find something to do with that. 145 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: But what will I do? And I always say I can't. 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: Now I say I can't say it again. I just can't. 147 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't list the things again. Walk the dog, 148 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: ride a bike, write something, play a musical instrument, draw, run, exercise, 149 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: I swim, we got a pool. Just I can't list 150 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 1: the million things you could do that aren't looking at 151 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 1: his But do one of them, you know. 152 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: One of those four hundred and eighty five. 153 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: Videos you just watched. Do one of those things, those 154 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: like the things. You're the guy in the video, not 155 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: the guy watching the video. 156 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 2: You know, asking that question that way is as natural 157 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: as like your fingernails growing. 158 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: Well, what am I supposed to do. It's true. 159 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: I remember asking my mom that, Yeah, George Washington's kids, 160 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: we're asking him, what. 161 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: Am I supposed to do? Kids? Get out of the cave, 162 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: your mom and I need to make your brother. 163 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: Right right, Go play with the other you know, pre syllabic, 164 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: non language speaking, grunting cave kids. 165 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: But there's dinosaurs out there. I don't care. Get out 166 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: of the cave. 167 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 4: Jack, when the kids were in the backseat the car, 168 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: did you tell them that life goes downhill? 169 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: And it's just all that I have had that conversation. Yeah, 170 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: you're happy. Now enjoy it while you can, because life 171 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: is nothing but a big disappointment. 172 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: Grind it out as you work for some bastards you 173 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: don't like, You don't respect that. He hasn't care. 174 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 1: About I have said that day I bed year old. 175 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 1: Like me, I have said to my son which I 176 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: probablyhouldn't say, because he wants, he wants to get Next 177 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: year he'll be able to get a job at a 178 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: variety of places that he wants to go, because you 179 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: have to be sixteen. But anyway, I say, and then 180 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 1: you'll start working, and then you will work until you're 181 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: sold and nearly dead, that none of this will matter anymore. 182 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you'll never stop ever again. And it's true, 183 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: but I don't know if you need to lay that 184 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: out when you're sixteen years old. 185 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: Oh that's so funny. We just got an email from 186 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: some pr group pitching a guest who wants to talk 187 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: about the kid rotting. 188 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: It's the hot phrase, man's thing. Kid rotting is a 189 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 1: hot phrase. So New York was really on the time 190 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: on the side of uh, you know, we used to 191 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: call we didn't used to call it rotting. We used 192 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: to just call it summertime. And then there's been the pushback, 193 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: obviously with the screen stuff, and so yeah, it's become 194 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: a whole thing. But I do even if you eliminate 195 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: the screens, I know a lot of parents who would 196 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: think it would be horrible if their kids just hung 197 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: out with no plans every day and did nothing. Using 198 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: my finger quotes, it's impossible, as my son always points out, 199 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: to do nothing. Even if you're doing nothing, you're doing something, 200 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: and you lay around and do nothing for a while, 201 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: but you'll come up with something because you just out 202 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: of necessity. 203 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 2: So it's interesting this guest pitch is actually a woman 204 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 2: with Campfire. I think it used to be Campfire Girls 205 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: or whatever, but it's Campfire. It's a youth development organization. 206 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: And she believes the conversation misses the real distinction. Not 207 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: all boredom is created equal. There's a huge difference between 208 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: head down boredom, head down boredom zoning out on screens, 209 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: disconnected from others, and head up boredom that sparks activity, 210 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 2: problem solving, and self discovery. 211 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: That's an interesting turn. 212 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: And then she pitches that camp boredom isn't a problem. 213 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 2: It's a portal drift. What becomes a fort, seashells become currency, 214 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 2: and a toilet paper roll becomes binoculars. 215 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: No, it's not gonna help you see anything up close. 216 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,599 Speaker 2: It's just ineffective binoculars. 217 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 1: Certainly, yes, the distance will seem exactly the same. I 218 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: don't think these are working. 219 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 4: Jack could have just said, you know, kids, sometimes I 220 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: feel like just taking this car and driving it off 221 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 4: a cliff. 222 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: No, no, no 223 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: Well, I guess that's it.