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Speaker 2: A while back, I met a guy named Scotti Hastein

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Speaker 2: I decided to bring him on this week. We haven't

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Speaker 2: you feel all kinds of emotions, especially to see where

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Speaker 2: he's at now. So let's get into this. I'm joined

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Speaker 2: this week by Scottie Hasting. Him and I met Gosh

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Speaker 2: so many months back at an event for Creative Vets,

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Speaker 2: which was super awesome. But I'm really just excited to

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Speaker 2: his wild story and experiences. So Scotti, thanks for being here,

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me. We are going to dive

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Speaker 2: in so quick to your story because Creative It's is

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Speaker 2: the end of your story of what really started this journey?

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Speaker 2: I want to hear the beginning. Yeah, but what got

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Speaker 2: this all started? Why you're even in that group in

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Speaker 2: the first place, Like your background and what got you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's insane. So I grew up in the Cincinnati

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Speaker 3: not a whole lot, and I made the decision one

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Speaker 3: the Army. And so I did, and when I got there,

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Speaker 3: it was so funny, and I was like, man, I

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Speaker 3: someone who goes over in fights. That's what I wanted

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Speaker 3: to be. That's what I wanted to do. And I

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Speaker 3: should have played harder to get because come to find out,

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Speaker 3: there was a signing bonus. But they did. Of course,

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Speaker 3: like the heck, yeah, you didn't get this. But everyone

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Speaker 3: else who like got actually got recruited got a signing

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Speaker 2: I'm like man, Come on, how many years did it

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Speaker 2: take for you to find out about that?

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Speaker 3: Oh? It was at basic training when I found out

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Speaker 3: half when I graduated basic. And I was like, what

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Speaker 3: it's like that meme. We're like, wait, you guys are

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Speaker 3: getting paid absolutely that meme.

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Speaker 2: Wow it was you wanted to do this?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I wanted to. I just I felt like

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Speaker 3: I was living a life where you know, I just

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Speaker 3: Basic training, which the home of the Infantry, and graduated

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Speaker 3: Basic training. And probably three months after graduating Basic training,

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Speaker 3: I was in Afghanistan. Wow. Yeah, it was very quick,

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, okay, was that kind of a

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Speaker 2: shock when it first happened. You're like, I knew I

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Speaker 3: Oh. One, you go in and you're like, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to go to my first my first duty station.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you get that notice of deployment, are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit. For a while there, it was

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Speaker 2: So then you get there and how long are you

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Speaker 3: For I was in Afghanistan for three months before I

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Speaker 2: So this all happened on your first ever deployment. Yeah, okay, yeah, wow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. No, it was insane. We were there for three months.

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Speaker 3: We were there in twenty ten, twenty eleven, the end

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Speaker 2: Wow. Do you remember as this was happening in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I was awake the whole time. I remember.

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Speaker 2: When everything finally stopped, because I'm assuming that's what happened,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I go from finally the fire stops. The guy

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Speaker 3: And I remember fighting that feeling from the from the

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Speaker 2: To sleep, and I was out like that, Why do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just the fact that I just felt

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. When I was laying down on the ground

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Speaker 3: and I just remember fighting. And the most amazing part

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Speaker 2: Scotty, that's incredibly impressive. Also just heartbreaking, but so impressive

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Speaker 2: that you could stay calm after that just happened to you.

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Speaker 2: Did you realize how many times you had been hit

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Speaker 3: No, I knew that I was really bad off. I

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Speaker 3: all of it. So whoever says that adrenaline kicks in

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Speaker 3: But no, it's I remember just the pain. And I

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Speaker 3: I have to be really bad off. I was missing

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Speaker 3: And I knew it was bad off, and especially by

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Speaker 3: This is really bad.

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Speaker 2: And yet you're still here and you're staying calm, cracking joke.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, because like I said, they lost Paul some arm.

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Speaker 3: Absolute. I couldn't imagine being now that I have kids,

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Speaker 2: Well, and it's not ever something I don't feel like

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Speaker 3: I was impatient for a month and then I was

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Speaker 2: You had to go under anesthesia every other day, every

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just a blur, it really was. It

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Speaker 3: It's hard, it's a hard life to live in a

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's so much of why I wanted to

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Speaker 2: are unfortunately not uncommon. Yours situation and then what happened

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Speaker 2: to you is very so woman yours, thank.

436
00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:38,080
Speaker 1: God, because I don't recommend it, but there's so many

437
00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,439
Speaker 1: men and women like you who choose to serve and

438
00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:47,280
Speaker 1: they come out of serving with horribly traumatic situations that

439
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,040
Speaker 1: happened to them.

440
00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,679
Speaker 2: And the things that happened to you, guys after is

441
00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,280
Speaker 2: really what gets lost. Right, here's your story, This is

442
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,600
Speaker 2: what happened to you? That's what everybody always wants to know. Yeah,

443
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,960
Speaker 2: but who's Scotty after that? And what happens to Scotti

444
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,760
Speaker 2: after that moment in time where everybody's paying attention, the

445
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,560
Speaker 2: support is all there, everybody's doing all the things, and

446
00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,679
Speaker 2: you go through the six months. But then after.

447
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a moment when I was at Well

448
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 3: to Read where I just I had to redefine what

449
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,520
Speaker 3: my life was going to look like and what I

450
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 3: was going to look like. There was a time when

451
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,040
Speaker 3: I was married at the time, and we were at

452
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 3: one point in time she had gotten pregnant and we

453
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,919
Speaker 3: were expecting a baby, and I'm like, what does like

454
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,680
Speaker 3: how do I change a diaper? How do I live

455
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 3: my life? Like? How do I take care of another

456
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,200
Speaker 3: person when I can barely even take care of myself?

457
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,400
Speaker 3: But there were a lot of moments like that where

458
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,360
Speaker 3: you just had to make the decision that you were

459
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:42,680
Speaker 3: just going to figure it out. And for a long

460
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 3: time at Walter Read for probably three months while I

461
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,359
Speaker 3: was there, I was in that rut of just feeling

462
00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: sorry for myself for so long, and then something happened.

463
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 3: There was a moment when I was at Well to

464
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,239
Speaker 3: Read that kind of changed everything. And we were at

465
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,840
Speaker 3: an event at Walter Read and there was a and

466
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 3: at these different events, like they always held, these events

467
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:08,920
Speaker 3: build camaraderie between all the broke veterans. But it was great.

468
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 3: It was great to have that. It was great to

469
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 3: have a community. That was One of the most amazing

470
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,760
Speaker 3: things about Walter Reed is that there is a community

471
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,239
Speaker 3: of people there and everyone is suffering. Some of us

472
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 3: were worse than others, and but at the end of

473
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,600
Speaker 3: the day, we all went through something horrific and we're

474
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 3: all there and we're all kind of bonding in this trauma,

475
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 3: and it was amazing. But there was a moment when

476
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 3: we were at this event and I overheard a song

477
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 3: that they were playing in the background. I always played

478
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: music in the background, and there was a song that

479
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 3: came on and it was a song that was cut

480
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 3: by Trace Akins called to the Left Shuts Fire and

481
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 3: Trace Akins originally cut it, and it was the first

482
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 3: time I'd ever heard the song. And I heard it

483
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 3: out of the corner of my just in the background,

484
00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:47,560
Speaker 3: and then it was like I locked into it. I

485
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: don't know what happened, but something just drew me into

486
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 3: the song, and after the song was over, like, I

487
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 3: cried for a baby for two hours and I couldn't

488
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 3: stop myself. And in those two hours, I was when

489
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 3: I made the decision that I was going to live

490
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,520
Speaker 3: my life to the fullest and I wasn't going to

491
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: let my injury dictate my life, and I was going

492
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 3: to live for my best friends who would never have

493
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 3: the opportunity. And Yeah, that song came back around full

494
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 3: circle and a little bit later that we can talk

495
00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 3: about in a little bit.

496
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely want to. I want to talk about

497
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 2: that for sure, But wow, talk about a defining moment

498
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 2: when you're really struggling. And do you feel like that

499
00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 2: was the first time as you hear the song and

500
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 2: you talk about crying for two hours after, was that

501
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: really the first time where everything just kind of all

502
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 2: the emotions and everything you'd been experienced for the last

503
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:32,560
Speaker 2: several months just came to a head.

504
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: One hundred percent that was those two hours were crying

505
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,360
Speaker 3: was one hundred percent understanding that life. Life is different now.

506
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 3: And while I'm here at Walter Read, I'm also hearing

507
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,320
Speaker 3: about my best friends being killed, and it's there was

508
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 3: just so much at Walter reed. I guess in that

509
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,719
Speaker 3: moment it was like everything finally slowed down and I

510
00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,879
Speaker 3: was able to like all the emotions, everything just came

511
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 3: rushing in and I was able to really think about

512
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 3: what just happened and what life looks like moving forward,

513
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,119
Speaker 3: and it was just an overwhelming sense of emotion that

514
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 3: just I couldn't help it.

515
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: What would you hope for someone like me who's never

516
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 2: had that experience, or maybe somebody who's never heard of

517
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,200
Speaker 2: a story like yours. What's something that you hope they

518
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 2: can come away with understanding For someone in an experience

519
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 2: like yours, or even somebody who chooses to fight in

520
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 2: the army, any of the above. Yeah, but just maybe

521
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 2: something that helps them understand, maybe have more empathy understanding

522
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 2: of situations and things that you go.

523
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: It's so hard to be empathetic with someone if you've

524
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 3: never experienced with the experience, you know what I mean.

525
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 3: That's something that I feel like the world is understanding now.

526
00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 3: But at the same time it loss has lost. I

527
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,199
Speaker 3: lost some of my best friends and that still sticks

528
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 3: to me, and the survivor's guilt behind that still is

529
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 3: something I still try to deal with and at the

530
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,120
Speaker 3: end of the day, trauma is trauma, and trauma's relative.

531
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 3: But anyone who experiences in different ways, And I think

532
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 3: that it's important for everyone to understand that, just like

533
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: there's a lot of people that are like, man, I

534
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 3: got hurt, but it wasn't anything like you, Like it

535
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: doesn't matter, Like trauma is trauma, Like it doesn't matter

536
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 3: that you weren't hurt as bad as me. You experienced

537
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 3: something it was relative to your life, it changed your life,

538
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't matter if it was like if it

539
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: was as bad as me or not, or at the

540
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 3: end of the day, we're all in this and at

541
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 3: the end of the day, like it hurts regardless, and

542
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 3: at the end of the day you have to find

543
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 3: a new way to live life.

544
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: You mentioned that survivor's guilt. I know a lot of

545
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 2: you guys struggle with that because you're really experiencing this

546
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 2: a very sharp contrast between life and death. Does the

547
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: survivor's guilt happen obviously in the moment when you find out,

548
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: but throughout the rest of your life.

549
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's still something I struggle with on a daily basis.

550
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 3: It's actually pretty amazing. I was able to create a

551
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 3: best I was able to link up with them and

552
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 3: write a song about my survivor's guilt, and when I

553
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 3: signed my record deal with Black River Entertainment, it was

554
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: the first single that I ever put out, called how

555
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,959
Speaker 3: Do You Choose? Because with my music and with all

556
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: that I've only ever wanted, I want to help people

557
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: that are struggling. I want to use either my story

558
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 3: or my music or something and try to help someone

559
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: who's struggling and understand that there's so much more. You

560
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 3: know that you can go through all of this bad

561
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 3: and you can come out on the other side and

562
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,280
Speaker 3: do things that you never thought possible. And they're with that, though.

563
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: I had to put out songs that were very much

564
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,440
Speaker 3: me opening my chest and letting people see my heart

565
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 3: and my soul. And that song is still the hardest

566
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 3: song I've ever written, and it's the hardest song that

567
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 3: I ever performed, And it's truly a song about my

568
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 3: survivor's guild and my best friends who never came home

569
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 3: and why did I get to after getting shot ten times?

570
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: And there they did.

571
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 2: Do you still keep in contact with any of those families?

572
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: My best friend Adam Hamilton, his mom is one of

573
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 3: my dearest friends. I love her so much. It's actually amazing.

574
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 3: I made my grand Ole Opper debut not too long ago,

575
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,480
Speaker 3: and at the at that debut, I played a song

576
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: from Forrest Gump, which was Fortune Song. It was amazing,

577
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 3: it was so much fun. And then I played that

578
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,560
Speaker 3: song how Do You Choose? And that song is about

579
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 3: my best friend Adam Hamilton, who was killed. And Adam

580
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 3: Hamilton's family was in the crowd that night, and it

581
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 3: was one of the most incredible experiences I've ever felt.

582
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: And it was cool because after you make your debut,

583
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 3: like you go into the circle room and you get

584
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: this little party, this little debut party, and all of

585
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: Adam's family was there, and it was so cool to

586
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 3: like just experience this moment with them. And it was

587
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 3: even more amazing because I had never met some of them,

588
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 3: so it was cool to be like, hey man, so

589
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 3: great to meet you. Like how do You Choose? Makes

590
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: me feel connected to Adam again, and like just to

591
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 3: like understand that like this thing that I put out

592
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 3: that was so personal to me, like that it touches

593
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 3: them and makes them feel something. That's amazing.

594
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 2: You're making me feel that I'm not getting alterio, just

595
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: even hearing the story of this and how you use

596
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 2: such difficult moments in your life to connect with others,

597
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: which is what this podcast is all about, was trying

598
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 2: to help people feel less alone and their struggles. And

599
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: veterans and people who are in our military are such

600
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 2: a huge part of the population. And you were the

601
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: perfect first yes for this to share your story. And

602
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 2: I just like Scottie, it's so incredible watching what you've

603
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 2: done because here everybody's heard your story. This is what happened,

604
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 2: and you take this moment in time and then you're

605
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: doing what you do now, which is making music, being

606
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 2: an artist. You're working with creativeth give that kind of

607
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: background too, because that's now the big part of your story.

608
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is the Honestly, the music part of

609
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: it was the most unexpected of all of it. I'm

610
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: going to be real. So after all my injury and everything,

611
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 3: I went back to Fort Riley and in Kansas because

612
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 3: my guys were coming back.

613
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: That's where I'm from, Kansas. Yes, I went to Manhattan

614
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: Kansas College, so Fort Riley Hike. I even did news

615
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 2: segments at Fort Reley. I was probing in the barbed wire.

616
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 3: That's awesome. Yeah, that's so cool. But yeah, so I

617
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 3: went back to Fort Riley because my guys were coming back.

618
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: I had to be there, which is crazy because a

619
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 3: lot of times, like people who go to Walter Read

620
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 3: like that's where their story ends. Like they go to

621
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 3: Walter Read, they get out of the military, they medically

622
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: retired to the military. So for me to be like, hey,

623
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: I want to go back to Fort Riley and be

624
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: there when my guys get there, no one at Walter

625
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: Reid knew how to make that happen because it never

626
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 3: happened before. No one has ever done that. It basically

627
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 3: took an Act of Congress. Luckily, my congressman was an

628
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 3: ex ranger and he said, yeah, you need to be there,

629
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: and so he wrote up a letter and stuff and

630
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 3: made it work.

631
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,439
Speaker 2: But I wasn't incredible, by the way, that's just awesome

632
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 2: that happened, but also crazy that to your point that

633
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: it took an Act of Congress.

634
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, it was hard to happen. And my congressman

635
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:36,879
Speaker 3: had to write a letter just for me to be

636
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 3: able to go back to my duty station and see

637
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 3: my guys. But yeah, so I was there. I went

638
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: back to Fort Riley and they all came back and

639
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: we were there for a while. But while I was there,

640
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 3: I was lucky enough to find adaptive sports. I played

641
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 3: sports my whole life growing up. Sports was our world,

642
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 3: That's what we did. So when I got to Fort Riley,

643
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: they were like, adapt to sports is what we're really

644
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 3: pushing right now. We feel like it's really going to help.

645
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 3: It's going to help you, give get an escape, whatever.

646
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, short, let's try it. I'll

647
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: try everything you got on this list. And I did,

648
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: and the one that really stuck with me was archery,

649
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: so to the point of where it's crazy because I'm

650
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 3: right handed. So I went to my first archery clinic

651
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: ever to learn how to shoot archery and the guy

652
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: was like, all right, what are you left handed? Right hand?

653
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I'm right handed, but this hand I

654
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: have no feeling and it doesn't really work. He said, oh,

655
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 3: that's all right, Well, strap a will, strap a release

656
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: to this hand. You'll be fine. And then I found

657
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 3: out three arrows later into the ceiling that I'm not

658
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: having feeling in the hand that has the trigger on

659
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 3: it is a bad thing.

660
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: I've even done archery, and I do have fulfilling and

661
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 2: it's even a disaster.

662
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 3: It was to the point where the guy was like, listen,

663
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: your a liability. Stop shooting archery.

664
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 2: Like I did tell you I was.

665
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: We had this conversation. I don't know what you want,

666
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: but I'm way too hard headed for him to tell

667
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 3: me I can't do it. So I was like, man,

668
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 3: there's got to be a way to do it. And

669
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 3: I remember him saying, the hand that's holding the bow

670
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: just sits there. That's all it does. And I was like, well,

671
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: this hand, that's all it does. Anyhow, what if I

672
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: just switched to left handed? So I went back the

673
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 3: next day and as soon as I walked up, he

674
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: immediately like, no, like, why are you here. I told

675
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 3: you your a liability. You have to go like you

676
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 3: can't do it, And I was like, no, just hear

677
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 3: me out, Just hear me out. Man, what if I

678
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 3: tried this left handed? And so we did, and I

679
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: found an amazing escape and an amazing purpose and archery

680
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 3: to the point of where I eventually got recruited by

681
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: the US Paralympic Committee and I started shooting and representing

682
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 3: the United States and the Paralympic program all throughout the

683
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: United States, and I did that.

684
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 2: Hold on, wow, yeah, Scotty, you're just like low key,

685
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: like okay, Yeah, it was that's incredible.

686
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 3: It was amazing and it was I did that for

687
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 3: six years. I shot professionally. I got paid by the

688
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 3: VA and by others to shoot, and that's what I did.

689
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 3: That was my job. And it was amazing because for

690
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: the seven seconds before that Era releases, the PTSD, the depression,

691
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 3: the anxiety, all that disappeared and I was able to

692
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 3: focus on just one thing. And I lived for those

693
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: seven seconds. For six years, I lived for those seven seconds,

694
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: and then COVID happened. When COVID happened, the world shut,

695
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 3: which means that my therapy, my escape, got taken away

696
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: from me. And when it gets quiet is when the

697
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: demon's not the loudest, and COVID was very quiet, and

698
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 3: I needed something. I was struggling. I was really going

699
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: into a place that I had been before and I

700
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: didn't want to be anymore. And I had a guitar

701
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: in the corner of my room and one day I

702
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: was like, you know what, I'm just I'm gonna I'm

703
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: gonna learn how to play this thing. I'm gonna I'm

704
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: just gonna jump on YouTube. I'm gonna figure out how

705
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: to play this. So I did. I jumped on YouTube and

706
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: I deeped ove and to learn how to play the guitar.

707
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 3: And yeah, there's a lot that goes into having to

708
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 3: learn with the disability how to play the guitar. And again,

709
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 3: thank god I didn't know how to play before, because

710
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: I would have gotten just pissed off and be like

711
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 3: I'm done, I'm not doing this. Yeah, but you know

712
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: it was and for me, like I figured that learning

713
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 3: how to play the guitar was going to be hard

714
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: enough to where it's something that I'm truly gonna have

715
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 3: to focus all my time into. I'm really gonna have

716
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 3: to escape into this and figure out how to do this.

717
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 3: And it was. It gave me a new escape. It

718
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 3: let me escape from the PTSD and the depression and

719
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 3: the anxiety that I was feeling at that time. And

720
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: the best way for me to learn was I started

721
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 3: learning how to play songs I grew up listening to.

722
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 3: I Am a nineties country kid through and through nineties countries.

723
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: Is the best time for country music in my opinion,

724
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 3: and you're not wrong.

725
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: It's not a controversial one. So you are saying there, Per,

726
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: what's the first song you were like, I have to

727
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 2: learn the song.

728
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 3: Oh, the first song I ever learned how to play

729
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 3: was should have been.

730
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: Cowboy by Oh fantastic song.

731
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that song. I started learning how to

732
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: play songs that I grew up listening to because I

733
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: knew if it didn't sound right, I had to fix something,

734
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 3: and there's plenty of YouTube videos out there to teach

735
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 3: you how to play it. I started learning songs that

736
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: I grew up listening to, and then from there I

737
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: was like, okay, like I'm learning how to play the guitar.

738
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,760
Speaker 3: This is really cool. But I still have all these feelings,

739
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,240
Speaker 3: and I still have all these thoughts, and I still

740
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 3: have all these emotions that are just overwhelming, and I

741
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 3: need some I need to find a way to stop

742
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,640
Speaker 3: this cup from overflowing. I need to figure out a

743
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 3: way to pour some out of this cup a little bit.

744
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 3: And that's when I discovered songwriting. I don't know what

745
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 3: I thought. Maybe I don't know. I I songs just

746
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: came out of nowhere. It was just like God just

747
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: gave them to people. I don't like.

748
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: Dropped it on your front port.

749
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: I don't know why. I never thought that songwriting was

750
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: the thing. It was just like people had these songs

751
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 3: and here you go. I don't know, I don't know

752
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,479
Speaker 3: what I thought. But then I discovered songwriting, and I

753
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 3: was like, I want to learn how to do this,

754
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: Like I can just take these emotions and these feelings

755
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: and I can throw them somewhere. So I jumped on

756
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: YouTube and I started learning how to write songs, and

757
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 3: I started learning how songs are structured, and how you

758
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 3: go from a verse to a chorus to a bridge,

759
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 3: and then how all this comes together and becomes one

760
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 3: piece of work. And I found a new escape and

761
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 3: learning how to write, and I found a new escape

762
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: and getting these emotions and these feelings that I was

763
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: truly struggling with and putting them somewhere else. I was

764
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: able to take them out of myself and throw them

765
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: into something else, which was a lifesaver, truly a lifesaver

766
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: for me.

767
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: You created your own therapy. Yeah, with what you were

768
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: teaching yourself. Absolutely, because songwriting is a form of journaling.

769
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: You're expressing how you're feeling. It's just almost giving it

770
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 2: a prettier. Look.

771
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know pretty. I mean, they were

772
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: not songs. They were not they were not good. It

773
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 3: was really just like word vomit put onto a piece

774
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 3: of paper that I could then like put somewhere else.

775
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 3: And I needed that and it was exactly what I

776
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: needed when I needed it, and it was amazing. And

777
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: then from there I just really deep dove into music

778
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 3: in general and all the types of music. And then

779
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 3: from there the world started opening up a little bit.

780
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 3: And I went to an open mic night in Cookville, Tennessee,

781
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: at Red Silo Brewing Company. And I don't know why

782
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 3: I did it. I just decided to screw it. I'm

783
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: gonna go why not? And I know songs now, so

784
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: why not go sing one? Why not? Let's give it

785
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 3: a shot. I went up there, I put my name

786
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 3: on the list. There was like four people there because

787
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: it's still COVID time and everyone thinks that everyone's gonna

788
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 3: die when you meet each other. And I was like, well,

789
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 3: four people here, what do I have to lose? What

790
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 3: are the four people are gonna make it?

791
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:53,360
Speaker 2: This is easier?

792
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 3: Well, four people are gonna make fun of me. Cool,

793
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 3: I don't care. I don't live here in Cookville. I'll

794
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: be fine. But yeah, So I went up there and

795
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 3: I played the song I ever learned how to play,

796
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 3: should Have Been a Cowboy by Tobe Keith. In that moment,

797
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 3: that escape that I had found an archery, that sense

798
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 3: of purpose that I had found, that therapy that I

799
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 3: had found in everything else before was there, but it

800
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 3: was magnified a hundred times. And in that moment, that's

801
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: when the stage became a sanctuary for me. And then

802
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 3: I was hooked an archery for seven seconds. Nothing else

803
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 3: in the world matters except for being in that moment

804
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 3: when I'm playing a song or I'm playing a show

805
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 3: for three minutes. Now, nothing in the world matters except

806
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 3: for being in that moment. To the point of now

807
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: where when I play a show and I'm playing an

808
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 3: hour long show, nothing in the world matters except for

809
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: me being in that moment for an hour. I lived

810
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 3: for that to the point of where I would go

811
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 3: to all different open mic nights all around Nashville. And

812
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 3: then Nashville started opening up a little bit, and I

813
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 3: had heard through some of the other guys at the

814
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: open mic nights that down on Broadway you can play

815
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 3: three to four hours at a time. I was like,

816
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: whoa wait, tell me for three to four hours a day,

817
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 3: I can be rid of the PTA, the end of the

818
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: depression of anxiety. I can live in a moment for

819
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 3: three to four hours a day. I want to do that.

820
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 3: So I walked up and down Broadway for a month,

821
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: bugging the crap out of people until they lit me

822
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: on a stage, and to the point of I was

823
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: playing six shows a week. I would play a show

824
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 3: every night three to four hours at a time. My

825
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: vocal courts hated me, but the therapy that I got

826
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 3: from it was more than I could have ever imagined.

827
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 3: I was able to live in a moment for three

828
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 3: to four hours, And for someone who suffers from PTSD,

829
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 3: depression and anxiety, being able to find a moment where

830
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 3: you can live in that moment is magic.

831
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: Do you feel like those experiences, everything on that as

832
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: you were having them, allowed you then to heal during

833
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: the other twenty three hours of the day.

834
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,319
Speaker 3: That yeah, Because I knew that no matter what I

835
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 3: was struggling with, I was going to have that outlet,

836
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 3: no matter what was happening, no matter all the hard

837
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 3: that I was dealing with, throughout the day, I knew

838
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 3: that there was going to be an escape, and I

839
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: knew that for three to four hours, I was going

840
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: to be able to get rid of this and I

841
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: was going to be able to get away from it.

842
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 3: And it kept me moving right, it kept me understanding

843
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 3: that there's gonna be something that's gonna help me get

844
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: over whatever I'm dealing with at this time. And yeah,

845
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: so I live for that, live for the three to

846
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 3: four hours at a time. And I always say, you

847
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,760
Speaker 3: know that when I'm on stage, like you're watching therapy

848
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 3: happen in person, like you're truly actively watching it, because

849
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: that's what it is for me. And it's so crazy.

850
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 3: I don't know how it all happened, how all where

851
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: I am now and all that, and it's it's just insane.

852
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 3: It's I'm more blessed than I could have ever imagined

853
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 3: I would be. But for there's three to four hours,

854
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 3: and it didn't matter. It didn't matter who was in

855
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: the room, it didn't matter anything else. All that mattered

856
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 3: was that I was on that stage and then I

857
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 3: was playing that music and I was being able to

858
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: live in a moment. It didn't matter if there was

859
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 3: three hundred people in a fool bar down on Broadway,

860
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 3: or if I was just playing for the Bartenders, I

861
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: was just there for myself, for my therapy. But at

862
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 3: the same time, like, I'm so glad that I went

863
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: to Broadway, and I'm so glad that I played down

864
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,439
Speaker 3: on Broadway because it taught me so much about being

865
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 3: an artist and about being a performer, and about being

866
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 3: able to people. And because Broadway will humble you. One

867
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: day you're playing for a packed room and everyone's having

868
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 3: a great time, and the next day you're playing for

869
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 3: the Bartenders and hoping someone walks in the door. It'll

870
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: humble you real quick. But at the end of the day,

871
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 3: you really have to love it. And it made me

872
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: find a love, a true love for music and a

873
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 3: true love for performing.

874
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 2: Scotti. Just listening to you over just the course of

875
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: all of your stories, I think a lot of it

876
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: is also a testament to your character and who you

877
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: are as a person, which you've probably never given yourself

878
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 2: the credit for. But you couldn't do and have survived

879
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 2: a lot of the things that you've gone through without

880
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 2: being who you are, and you're an incredible person and

881
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,359
Speaker 2: you did that, like you created this. I know you're like,

882
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 2: I have no idea how I am where I am

883
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: right now, but like you did this, and you created

884
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: all of that just hearing you talk about it, and

885
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: I know, like I can sit here and see your

886
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: a bigger picture. You're in it, so it's harder to

887
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: see when you're in it. But you did all that.

888
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 2: That was all you.

889
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was just the necessity of it.

890
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 3: All I needed something. I've lost way too many bodies

891
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 3: here in the States and I wasn't going to be

892
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 3: another one of them, and I needed something. I have kids,

893
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: I have things I have to live for, and I

894
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: needed the necessity of needing to find something. Outweighed anything.

895
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 3: It outweighed all the embarrassment that I could possibly feel

896
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 3: into that open mic night. It outweighed any of it.

897
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 3: And now I'm at a point in this career that

898
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: has become a dream and a career that I could

899
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: only ever imagine that would.

900
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 2: Be Yeah, and it's incredible, which is what I want

901
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: you to share the three kind of stories because you

902
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: are now part of Creativet's Yes, which is an awesome

903
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: organization that employs veterans to write songs and do a

904
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 2: lot within the music industry. But you have three really

905
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 2: cool stories. Yeah, how I met you? Was that you

906
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: you were if I remember correctly, there's a George Straight

907
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: song connection type thing. Or were you just there that

908
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: I was just there? Okay, you're just taking out for

909
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 2: creativet Okay, Okay. Then there's the two stories that I

910
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 2: know for sure, But you were there. George Straight did

911
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 2: an entire album with a lot of the creative events,

912
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: which was really cool. We were there for the art

913
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 2: exhibit and the whole piece of that. But Dolly Parton

914
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 2: story and Trace Adkins story, Oh.

915
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: Man, you know it. I'll tell another story that's pretty

916
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 3: amazing and bring it up to Nashville story. Okay, the

917
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 3: way that I got discovered. Everyone always asks this. One day,

918
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: my mom was like, Hey, I'm going to go buy

919
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 3: a new car. I want you to come with me.

920
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 3: I don't know anything about cars. I know nothing about courses.

921
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: But when you're a woman, you need a male accomplice

922
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 2: for things because otherwise you get take advantage of. So

923
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: I know where your mom, you know.

924
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: What's I was like, Man, I don't know anything about cars,

925
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: but I do know Mom's probably going to buy lunch.

926
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 3: So I'll go because I will never say no to

927
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 3: free food. And so I went and we were at

928
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: this dealership and her salesman was Michael Kerr, who is

929
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 3: the son of the president and CEO of Black River Entertainment,

930
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 3: Gordon Kerr, and we were talking about music and how

931
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 3: I used music as a form of therapy and he

932
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: grew up in music and how I use it as

933
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 3: a form of therapy and how I want to help

934
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 3: people with my music and with my story, and we

935
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: just we talked from now we were my mom was

936
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: supposed to buying a car and we're talking about music

937
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 3: and all of this stuff. Shut up buying a car.

938
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, we talked about music. And at the time,

939
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: I had one song out just because I wanted to

940
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 3: get a taste of what being in the studio was like.

941
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 3: So he was like, man, the song's okay, but your

942
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 3: story is amazing. I'm gonna send this to my dad

943
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna send I'm gonna send it to Doug

944
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: Johnson and our guy at Black River. I feel like

945
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: they need to meet you. And I was like, yeah, man,

946
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: like that would be incredible, that's amazing. Please, like, holy crap,

947
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: he's no promises, and I'm like, yeah, of course, but

948
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 3: nash was full of people who talk and then nothing

949
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,160
Speaker 3: ever happens and I'm like, okay, I'm not gonna get

950
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 3: my hopes up. But three hours later I got to

951
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: call from Doug Johnson. Hey man, we need to meet

952
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 3: and I was like okay, and then yeah, it's crazy.

953
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: Not because you went for free food, because I.

954
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 3: Went for free food with my mom. If your mom

955
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: ever asked you to go somewhere, go because you never

956
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 3: know what could happen. And then yeah, So I went

957
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: into Black River and I met Doug in literally like

958
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 3: ten minutes, and it's into me telling my story. He

959
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: was like, stop talking, hold on, we need to go

960
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,800
Speaker 3: to Gordon's office and you need to tell this story

961
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: with Gordon there. And I was like okay, yeah, I

962
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 3: don't know who Gordon is, but absolutely, let's do it.

963
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 3: And so I went in toil my story, told talked

964
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 3: about what I want to do with music and how

965
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 3: I use music, and they were yet, are you going

966
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 3: to do you live here in Nashville. I was like yeah.

967
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 3: They're like can you come back? Come back around? And

968
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 3: I was like yeah, absolutely. From then on that I

969
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 3: just started coming over and I just started hanging out

970
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 3: with Doug, and Doug is Not only did Doug Johnson

971
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 3: write Three Wooden Crosses, but he's the guy who developed

972
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 3: Blake Shelton to Blake Shelton. And I didn't know any

973
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 3: of this when I first met him, and it's so

974
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 3: funny looking back now. He took the time to talk

975
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 3: to me and write with me and develop me into

976
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 3: who I am now, and it's so funny. For the

977
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: longest time at Black River, I was just Doug's guy.

978
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: No one knew who I was, no one had a

979
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 3: name to put with my face. I was just Doug's guy.

980
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 3: And yeah, and then a little bit later I ended

981
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 3: up signing a record deal with him and a publishing

982
00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 3: deal with him, and now I'm a recording artist, which

983
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: is insane.

984
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: That's an incredibly awesome Nashville story.

985
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that story. I know it's so and

986
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: it's even crazier because stuff like that never really happens anymore.

987
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 3: It's just man like that. That's crazy. But yeah, so

988
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: the Trace Akins story is wild. I told you that

989
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 3: I heard this song and it changed everything for me.

990
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 3: Fast forward ten years and I'm sitting in Doug Johnson's

991
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 3: office talking about signing a record deal and he's working

992
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 3: with me to become an artist and all this other stuff,

993
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: and he's, hey, man, there's a song I wrote a

994
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: while ago and me and Rob Crosby wrote it. And

995
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard it. It's a song

996
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 3: called Till the Left Shots Fired. Trace Ackens version cut it.

997
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard it. And I was like,

998
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I know the song. I'm trying

999
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: to stay cool, trying to stay cool and calm, and

1000
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 3: he's like, cool, you've heard it. Awesome, I'm glad you've

1001
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: heard it. Do you want to do a version of it?

1002
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, man, I would love to

1003
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 3: do a version of it.

1004
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: Like how long did you keep your chill for it?

1005
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: Not very long? But you know, I'm like, I would

1006
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 3: love to. I'm trying to stay calm and cool, but

1007
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: inside I'm jumping up and down a little kiddage on

1008
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 3: Christmas morning. Oh my god, you have no idea. But

1009
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: then yeah, I was like, man, yeah, And then I

1010
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 3: think after we finally finished, I finally told Doug what

1011
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 3: that song actually meant to me. But we did a

1012
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 3: version of it and it was amazing, and every feeling

1013
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: that I first felt when I heard that song, I

1014
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: put it into that song and it was perfect. I thought.

1015
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: I was like, this is this song is incredible And

1016
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: Doug was like, man, this is really great. I love

1017
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: this version. Your version where it's just you, it's amazing.

1018
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: But what do you think about reached out to some

1019
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 3: other artists and see what happens. I'm like, send it

1020
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: to everybody? Yeah, man, who knows? And the first person

1021
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 3: who said yes was Lee Brice and a testament to

1022
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: who Lee is. He is become an incredibly dear friend

1023
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 3: of mine now. But he basically sat down with us

1024
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 3: and he was like, man, I don't care what part

1025
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: I play in this song. I just want to be

1026
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 3: a part of what this is. Whatever you're doing here,

1027
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 3: I want to be a part of this. So then

1028
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: we had me and Lee's version and it was amazing

1029
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 3: and it was perfect. I thought it was perfect. Fast

1030
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: forward a couple weeks and Doug's I'm driving home from

1031
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 3: somewhere and Doug calls me. He's like, hey, man, Dotley

1032
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 3: Parton wants to be a part of this song. What

1033
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 3: do you think? And I'm like, why are you calling me?

1034
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: Let her do whatever she wants to do. Are you serious?

1035
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 3: As Dolly Parton, like what? And so he was like,

1036
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 3: that's what I thought you'd say, okay, And I'm like,

1037
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 3: I don't feel like you needed to call me about that.

1038
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 3: I feel like you could have just been like, Dolly's

1039
00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 3: gonna be on your song. And then literally four weeks later,

1040
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 3: I got a call from Doug again and he's, hey, man, like,

1041
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 3: I have Dolly's version. You want to hear it? And

1042
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, again, I feel like we're making phone calls

1043
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 3: we don't need to make and just send it. Why

1044
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: are you doing this to me? Man? Just send it?

1045
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: And so he sent it to me, and it, man, like,

1046
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: the feelings that I felt when I first heard that

1047
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: song just came rushing back and it was and I

1048
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 3: had to pull over on the side of the road

1049
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: and I was just I just cried, man, And it

1050
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 3: was like then it wasn't just the fact that like,

1051
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: this song is what it is and that it means

1052
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 3: as much as it means to me, But they decided

1053
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 3: that they wanted the fact that they wanted to be

1054
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 3: a part of my song, but not only just a

1055
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 3: part of my song, but a part of my journey

1056
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 3: and a part of my story, and that means more

1057
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 3: than they will ever know. And I don't think I

1058
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: can ever tell them thank you enough for not only

1059
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,479
Speaker 3: I said, not only being a part of the song,

1060
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: but just like some guy who just started music doesn't

1061
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: know anything about music and they wanted to be a

1062
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 3: part of a song that I was doing, like that

1063
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 3: means so much.

1064
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 2: Okay again, Scotty, But back to the testament of you

1065
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: as a human being. I think anybody meets you and

1066
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 2: wants to be in your circle, I think they hear

1067
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 2: your story. I think they hear who you are as

1068
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 2: a person and are like, yes, when people are just

1069
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 2: energizers and they have this gosh aura about them, people

1070
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 2: truly gravitate towards that. And bad people sure, but like

1071
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: good people too, like a Lee Brice and a Dolly Parton.

1072
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: If Dolly Parton wanting to be on it doesn't tell

1073
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: you what an energizer you are.

1074
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 3: And that's since saying. The craziest part is I have

1075
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 3: a song with her. Still haven't met her yet, so

1076
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 3: that's on the bucketlet Still.

1077
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: That has to happen, and did you ever meet Trace?

1078
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Speaker 3: Knowing that the song I met Trace, way before music

1079
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 3: was ever a thing, was one of the first opera

1080
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 3: shows I ever went to. I just I went to

1081
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 3: a military opera show one day and there was like

1082
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 3: an outing that they were doing for veterans. And I'd

1083
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 3: always wanted to go to an opera show and I

1084
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 3: never got the chance, and I went and I got

1085
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 3: to meet Trace, which was crazy, and I was like, man,

1086
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: like your song till Lash Shots Fire changed everything for me.

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00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 3: And then fast forward a little bit and I remember

1088
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 3: Doug called Trace and we were talking to him because

1089
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 3: originally I was like, man, I would love to do

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00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 3: this with Trace, Like that would be so cool. Can

1091
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 3: I you think we can do that? And that was

1092
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 3: like and originally when he was like, let's send it

1093
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,560
Speaker 3: to other artists and see and I was like, Trace, Trace,

1094
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 3: maybe that would be great and we do that.

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00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 2: Already has this song, can we do it with him?

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00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: And you know what's amazing is we were on the

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00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 3: phone with Trace and he said, man, he said, I

1098
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 3: already have my version. He said, let Scottie make his own.

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00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 3: And I was like, Okay, that's cool, You're cool, You're yeah.

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00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 2: That's also the recognition that like he heard your song.

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00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just it was just like like it's

1102
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 3: let Scotty do let Scotty do this, Let Scotty have

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00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: his And it wasn't like it was just amazing, just

1104
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 3: the under standing that he's man if I do another

1105
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: version of this, it's going to be another Trace song.

1106
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 3: Let Scotty have his moment. And it was so cool.

1107
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 3: It was so cool to just hear that. And for

1108
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 3: a part of me was, oh, dang man, like Trace

1109
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 3: would have been cool. But you know a part of

1110
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 3: me understood and was like grateful that he was like,

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00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 3: Scotty needs to have his version, which is really cool.

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00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna manifest for you that you guys got

1113
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: to have your own clab and it's just a song.

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00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 3: I would love that.

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00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 2: I would love to do it, maybe another one. You

1116
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 2: wrote that I like it cool. Well, man, Scotty, I'm

1117
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 2: so happy you came on and shared your story and

1118
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: all the pieces, and I hope everybody goes out and

1119
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: supports you. You want to shout out your social media page

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00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: so they can go follow you.

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00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's literally at Scotty hasting music everywhere.

1122
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: Perfect you made it simple, easy.

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00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: Super easy.

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00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely, so ghostream it goes support him and all the

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00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 2: stuff that he's incredibly doing, not just in music but

1126
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: also with creativets and and the story that he's trying

1127
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 2: to share and get out with the world. So Scotti, thanks.

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Speaker 3: For being here, Thank you, thanks for having me. It's

1129
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 3: been wild in a wild year, and it's looking even

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00:48:58,400 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 3: crazier now.

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00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: I was gonna say it's probably only gonna get more

1132
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: while for here, but that's a good thing. Yes, Oh

1133
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 2: thanks Scotti, thanks for being here. This is what it's

1134
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Speaker 2: all about for me, getting to share stories like Scotti's

1135
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 2: and so many of the other episodes that we've done.

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00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: I think it's really important to share real people and

1137
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 2: their real experiences. That is how we connect with one another.

1138
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 2: That's how we feel community, how we feel less alone.

1139
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: And Scottie's story not only does just that, but it's

1140
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: also a story of determination and hope, and I love

1141
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: everything about what he represents. So really cool to have

1142
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 2: him on. Be sure to go and follow our Instagram

1143
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 2: page at Take This Personally. Also, you can watch all

1144
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 2: of these episodes on YouTube at what Girl Morgan and

1145
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: if you're subscribed, awesome. I love you. If you're not,

1146
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 2: go ahead and do that wherever you listen, and as

1147
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 2: well as be ready for next week because we're going

1148
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 2: to talk some more veterans and families, really in the

1149
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: space of homeless veterans. I have somebody coming on who's

1150
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 2: doing great work in the community. So love you and

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Speaker 2: I'll yap at you next week