WEBVTT - AFC North Preview

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to NFL Daily, where, like Mike McCarthy, you can

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<v Speaker 1>always go home again. I'm home in the Chris Wesleyan

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<v Speaker 1>podcast studio with my friend Jordan rod Reeg.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the third division preview that we've tackled together.

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<v Speaker 2>When we came up with.

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<v Speaker 1>This division preview idea, like the idea with other people

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<v Speaker 1>would be in the mix, but you're kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>hogging all the previews for yourself, and I like it

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<v Speaker 1>that way.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I never know when you start a sentence.

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<v Speaker 3>I never know quite where you're going. If I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>feel bad at the end, if I'm gonna feel good

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<v Speaker 3>at the end. Thank you. I appreciate that. I like

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<v Speaker 3>being here.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where I'm going either, frankly, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a tough way to be when this is your profession,

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Mike McCarthy in his return to yes his hometown

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<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh. They will be the last team because we

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<v Speaker 1>go alphabetical order that we mentioned in our AFC North

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<v Speaker 1>Division preview. Like I said, this is our third. We

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<v Speaker 1>hit the Western divisions first to some contract controversy. We

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<v Speaker 1>had one very angry whoa Boston Bruins fan that was

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<v Speaker 1>like they know what they're doing. This is BS using

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<v Speaker 1>different words that you're going that you're going West first.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't believe it.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going counterclockwise.

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<v Speaker 1>Patients, We're gonna get to them all. Everyone gets literally

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<v Speaker 1>equal time.

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<v Speaker 3>They might even get better as we go.

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<v Speaker 1>But it has been a problem, I think over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of history, the East Coast bias that in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of division previews and whatnot across all sports and podcasts,

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<v Speaker 1>East always goes first. We're trying to we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>shake that up. West Coast best Coast.

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<v Speaker 3>Too long has my life been dictated by the five

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<v Speaker 3>a m. Eastern time? There you go, Adam Schefter news break,

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<v Speaker 3>no more, no more.

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<v Speaker 2>Although we're going north next, none that. It doesn't make

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<v Speaker 2>any sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're going counterclockwise.

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<v Speaker 2>We just wanted to do it this way. So here

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<v Speaker 2>are the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're looking for the news of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>we're breaking up our news of the day with the

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<v Speaker 1>division previews during camps, so you can find that in

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<v Speaker 1>the feed from Wednesday, and we'll obviously be updating the

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<v Speaker 1>news on Thursday as well. The format twelve minutes per team,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of different categories for each team, starting with

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<v Speaker 1>the Baltimore Ravens. Let's start that clock. The first category,

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<v Speaker 1>as always, Jordan, is what is bringing us joy about

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<v Speaker 1>this team? And as always you get first DIBs on that.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, maybe they found a center.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Ethan Pochick. You're starting with him to check.

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<v Speaker 3>No, wait, the whole deep into the off season problem

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<v Speaker 3>solving brought me a little bit of joy. There was

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<v Speaker 3>really only one super super glaring issue to me on

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<v Speaker 3>this roster. There's a few that we are still sort

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<v Speaker 3>of a wait and see. We have to see how

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<v Speaker 3>the receiver corps shakes out behind say Flowers. We have

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<v Speaker 3>to wait and see how the pass rush maybe improves

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<v Speaker 3>with Matta Bkay coming back. This one was the hole.

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<v Speaker 3>This was the hole, right. This was the one where

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<v Speaker 3>they mixed around like Ioni Vega and maybe thinking maybe

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<v Speaker 3>he could con to a center in his rookie season.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna it, sounds like play him in his preferred position,

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<v Speaker 3>which I want to see. I will be watching him

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<v Speaker 3>specifically all season over at guard instead of at center.

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<v Speaker 3>And they have a center. That was a huge, huge

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<v Speaker 3>hole and they filled it and now they're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>They also brought into John Simpson who used to be

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ravens, so there's some familiarity. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of their running game later. But yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it is exciting. These two big guards Venga Yuana, the

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick and Simpson together. What's bringing me joy

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<v Speaker 1>is yeah, the new coaches like that. It does feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a new day. The whole idea of that John

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<v Speaker 1>Harbaugh was getting stale by the end. There was some

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<v Speaker 1>reporting around that in terms of how the players were reacting.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's just natural.

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<v Speaker 1>It's inevitable over the longest, over a long timeline, you

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<v Speaker 1>have Jesse Minter, you have Declan Doyle, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>also have Lamar Jackson showing up in the best shape

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<v Speaker 1>of his life quote unquote.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a There.

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<v Speaker 1>Are seasons like this with Lamar that you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>can see it coming. So he's been boxing a lot

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<v Speaker 1>with Zay Flowers, saying that Zay flowers his work ethic

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<v Speaker 1>was tough for him to keep up with, and he

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciated it, and he is looking good early in camp.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's listen to Kyle Hamilton talk about Lamar at the

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<v Speaker 1>start of camp.

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<v Speaker 4>From a I guess ability standpoint, you know, I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like he's he might have gotten faster somehow. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>want agent, but he's turning a certain age next year,

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<v Speaker 4>and you know it doesn't seem like that. You know, he's, uh,

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<v Speaker 4>we'll keep the age between us, what the age he's

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<v Speaker 4>going to be, but he uh, I feel like he

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<v Speaker 4>got faster. I feel like he ran today. It was

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<v Speaker 4>really fast. I don't know if you guys saw that,

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<v Speaker 4>but maybe that's just how he always runs. But he's

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<v Speaker 4>he's just like our season. I feel like he's going

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<v Speaker 4>to get better throughout the whole year, and the more

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<v Speaker 4>comfortable he gets and what they've got going on, which

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<v Speaker 4>I have a ton of faith in. I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 4>those guys. They have a ton of faith in it.

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<v Speaker 4>So he's just gonna get that much better.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think this is a real story because this

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<v Speaker 1>was also the story three years ago before that first

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<v Speaker 1>MVP season, when he was coming off so rough seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, oh, he kind of looks faster again.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been strucking through injuries. I'm buying it. Maybe, And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what Kyle Hamilton also talked about was how

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<v Speaker 1>he looked really comfortable with a lot of the under

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<v Speaker 1>center stuff in play action and fakes and all that

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<v Speaker 1>which is going to be part of this offense. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's part of your scheme dream

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<v Speaker 1>that's one of our categories or not. Are you talking

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<v Speaker 1>offense at all there? That could be a transition If not,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty guys, I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking a little offense, but only when the things go

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<v Speaker 3>wrong category. So that's not not as positive maybe to

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<v Speaker 3>start out. But I do think that that reminds me

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<v Speaker 3>of every time that meme comes around, where it's like

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<v Speaker 3>player turns thirty, he's older than dirt, he's the most

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<v Speaker 3>sacent man alive. And then it makes the thirty plus

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<v Speaker 3>year olds and in your case, what is it forty

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<v Speaker 3>almost fifty plus year old?

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<v Speaker 2>I am forty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, makes us, you know, just feel a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>closer to the crypt ourselves. But yeah, for me, I

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<v Speaker 3>think that it goes hand in hand.

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<v Speaker 2>You're going crypt that you want to be put in

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<v Speaker 2>a crypt.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what people are doing. I can come

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<v Speaker 3>back that way, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Really sure they do that anywhere I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 3>I can come back and haunt you a little more

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<v Speaker 3>easily that way. I feel like Declan Doyle, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I know, it's like kind of obvious. We're going to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about the defense. That's to me the most important

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<v Speaker 3>thing about this team in general, but installing a new offense,

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<v Speaker 3>one that really is going to try to maximize what

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<v Speaker 3>Lamar Jackson does in his prime. Decland Doyle is the

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<v Speaker 3>youngest offensive coordinator in the NFL right now who's going

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<v Speaker 3>to be calling plays, And he's calling plays for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time. He's of the Ben Johnson system, but what

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<v Speaker 3>he's going and sort of the Sean Payton tree as well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think he's going to probably claim Ben Johnson

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<v Speaker 3>because what he's going to do is a ton of

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<v Speaker 3>twelve personnel. It sounds like, which which is You know,

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's good because that's what the Ravens basically lived in.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how their rosters has pretty much been built. But

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<v Speaker 3>Isaiah likely is now in New York with John Harbaugh,

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<v Speaker 3>the former head coach, So they have Mark Andrews and

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<v Speaker 3>then he and he's a veteran, and they've got durham

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<v Speaker 3>smythe who's from Chicago played with under Deckland Doyle when

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<v Speaker 3>he is in Chicago. And I think that this is

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<v Speaker 3>going to be interesting because you are going to see

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<v Speaker 3>more under center with what they like to do. You

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<v Speaker 3>are going to see more play action. When I was

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<v Speaker 3>at league meetings this spring, there was so much conversation

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<v Speaker 3>about what is a Deckland Doyle offense going to look like?

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<v Speaker 3>And how many elements of the run pass does he

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<v Speaker 3>still keep? What is the run game going to look like?

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<v Speaker 3>We know that they really preferred a two back system.

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<v Speaker 3>Ben Johnson really loved playing a two back system, So

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<v Speaker 3>what is that going to look like? You know, with

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<v Speaker 3>Derrick Henry and the complement of backs there, does the

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<v Speaker 3>third running back then become a little bit more of

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<v Speaker 3>a special teams player the way that it happened in

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<v Speaker 3>Chicago as well. It's all of these little tiny tweaks

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<v Speaker 3>that are going to be happening in the effort to

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<v Speaker 3>try to again maximize everything Lamar Jackson can do. But

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<v Speaker 3>then my question of things going wrong is part and

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<v Speaker 3>parcel with this a phrase you love, which is the receivers.

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<v Speaker 3>And I will talk about it in a minute because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious about your most important person on the team,

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<v Speaker 3>But keep a tab open on those receivers.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just want to see this run game work,

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<v Speaker 1>and if it does look they're they were a very

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<v Speaker 1>heavy run team, and I think the new offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>is fun. Poachage if he can stay healthy, shores up

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<v Speaker 1>that center spot. The getting massive guards in initially as

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<v Speaker 1>the first thing you want to do in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>your team build is very Sean Payton coded. And you

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned how Declan Doyle, the youngest OC in the league,

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<v Speaker 1>was with both those coaches. I mean he was with

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<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton for like six years, so that is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge influence. And they brought in Dwayne Ledyard, who did

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<v Speaker 1>a good job coaching the offensive line in the Lanta.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, that's all very positive.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Minner, I think because of the excitement about Decklan

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<v Speaker 1>Doyle on the offense has almost been laying in.

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<v Speaker 2>The cut a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But twenty ninth in pressure rate last year, thirty first

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<v Speaker 1>and sacrate. These are the Baltimore Ravens, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna bring his system, which frankly isn't that different

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<v Speaker 1>than the system they were running last year in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna have his tweaks, but he was third in

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<v Speaker 1>using dime defense last year the Ravens were second. Like

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<v Speaker 1>they're just hoping that better players help the system oblep

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<v Speaker 1>mentor can can coach them up in a way that

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<v Speaker 1>a young DC couldn't. We've only got four minutes left already,

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<v Speaker 1>so my most important non quarterback, Trey.

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<v Speaker 2>Hendrickson is there now.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember thirty one years old, was effective before he got

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<v Speaker 1>hurt last year, has really aged incredibly well when he's

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<v Speaker 1>been on the field. But he has to be that dude, like,

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<v Speaker 1>he has to be everything that they traded for. They

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<v Speaker 1>made the decision to basically pick him over Max Crosby

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<v Speaker 1>because of the injury situation, and now you've got Travis

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<v Speaker 1>Jones next to him.

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<v Speaker 2>Madam Buik, you mentioned his next toom.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's pretty shaky at the other edge spot, and

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<v Speaker 1>so he's got to make it happen. He's just got

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of be the guy that we think he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be, but I don't always assume that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with thirty one year old dead dressers.

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<v Speaker 3>And the injury history with him too, that's obviously huge.

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Green had a really bad rookie season and not

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<v Speaker 3>the one that they hoped from him in terms of

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<v Speaker 3>his production on the field, so that he has to

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<v Speaker 3>take a step forward to Jesse Minter loves to play

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<v Speaker 3>in light boxes. This is my scheme dream. It's all

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<v Speaker 3>about Jesse Mitte.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought we already did that. You were just talking off.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm so I most important. I was going in order.

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<v Speaker 3>You told me to go in order, most important on quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>My scheme dream is all about Jesse Minter.

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<v Speaker 2>I go where the emotion.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you're steering Greg, so maybe try to bring me along.

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<v Speaker 2>I asked you. Yes, I was just like in there

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<v Speaker 2>pop around.

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<v Speaker 3>He has Anthony Weaver as his defensive coordinator, which is

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<v Speaker 3>I think great. I think that's a great pairing because

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<v Speaker 3>both of those coaches. What they do have in common

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<v Speaker 3>is the fact that they've played this Mike McDonald sort

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<v Speaker 3>of style of system, but with a lot of Vic

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<v Speaker 3>Fangio elements as well. And so this is like a

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<v Speaker 3>light box front, right, So they're playing with again, they're

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<v Speaker 3>spread out along their front and there's a either one

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<v Speaker 3>less player or two less players along their front, depending

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<v Speaker 3>on the concept than you would see in like a

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<v Speaker 3>four to three for example. And they also like to

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<v Speaker 3>play like a move player zone behind it. And one

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<v Speaker 3>of these like wrinkles that I think we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>see because he helped build out that package for for

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<v Speaker 3>Derwin James when he did it with the Chargers. You're

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<v Speaker 3>going to see perhaps either Kyle Hamilton, who can play

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<v Speaker 3>anywhere as we know, as long as the players around

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<v Speaker 3>him step up to the challenge, or you know, some

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<v Speaker 3>of the depth players or some of the extra dbs

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<v Speaker 3>that they have there that they brought in this offseason.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that there's real potential here for them to

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<v Speaker 3>really play that coverage dictates front to help their front,

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<v Speaker 3>at least in the short term, because they really like

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<v Speaker 3>to try to almost force you to run like a

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<v Speaker 3>either right downhill and chip away, and not many teams

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<v Speaker 3>can do that efficiently, or they want to try to

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<v Speaker 3>like spread you into a wider make you try to

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<v Speaker 3>think you can run like a wider zone, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>when the safety comes down and mitigates all of that,

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<v Speaker 3>and then all of that together will help set up

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<v Speaker 3>what the pass rush wants to do. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's what they're sort of banking on, is that his

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<v Speaker 3>system will elevate the coverage first and foremost and all

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<v Speaker 3>the different things that they want to do there, and

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<v Speaker 3>then that helps set up the rush into maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>more advantageous situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think things go wrong there if like, look,

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<v Speaker 1>you're County on a back end where Kyle Hamilton's to

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<v Speaker 1>fix everything. Yeah, the last couple of seasons, and so

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<v Speaker 1>to me, it's more about players not plays. Nate Wiggins

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<v Speaker 1>is an improving young player. Marlon Humphrey was not great

0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.280
<v Speaker 1>last year. Malachi Starks. I think they were maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little disappointed about Rokwan Smith was not Roquan Smith. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about a lot of defensive players and then

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<v Speaker 1>the return of mat of Weekend who just need to

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<v Speaker 1>play better.

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<v Speaker 3>Jalen Hawkins is a sort of an under the radar

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<v Speaker 3>edition there that I think he could play that move

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<v Speaker 3>role as well in the Patriots from the Patriots and

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<v Speaker 3>I think that he will be quietly one of the

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<v Speaker 3>players to make an impact for them in a versatile way.

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<v Speaker 1>And you mentioned, yeah the receiver depth after Ze Flowers.

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<v Speaker 2>As we wrap up, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Had the second highest target share in the NFL last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but he had one of the top five target shares

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<v Speaker 1>of the last like twenty years according to FDN Fantasy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's up there with like Michael Thomas with the

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<v Speaker 1>old Saints teams. Like that's how bad it was behind them,

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<v Speaker 1>so they need some of those.

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<v Speaker 3>Sean Bateman, where are you at man?

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<v Speaker 1>They drafted you know, a couple players Elijah Starat who

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of like that of Indiana. So you and

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<v Speaker 1>you let those tight ends go when you want to

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<v Speaker 1>run twelve like it's it's not a lot, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>enough weapons around Lamar ceiling floor is how we wrap

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<v Speaker 1>up each team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's hard for me to talk. So look at

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<v Speaker 3>this offensive line, which still question it's center obviously, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think the offensive line got better and is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be better this year. And I'm really high on

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<v Speaker 3>Jesse Minter, on Decklan Doyle, on Anthony Weaver being there

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<v Speaker 3>as well, I'm like sky high on Lamar. I it's

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<v Speaker 3>hard for me to not say this is a deep

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<v Speaker 3>playoff team and we'll see what happens after that if

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<v Speaker 3>they can play a little bit more matchup friendly football,

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<v Speaker 3>and then their floor is exactly what we just saw,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, get to the playoffs and.

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<v Speaker 2>Not even last year though, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, I mean exactly like just be medium, be injured.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying not to factor injury injuries in there, and

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<v Speaker 3>just like kind of peter out.

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<v Speaker 2>The schedule is very favorable.

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<v Speaker 1>People are confused, why are the Ravens the slight favorites?

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<v Speaker 1>All these teams are pretty close, but in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>best odds to make the Super Bowl right now in Vegas,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens are actually the favorites and they come out

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<v Speaker 1>really well. So to the Bengals and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these advanced metrics kind of projecting system because on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>the schedule looks pretty favorable. You get the Browns twice,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get the AFC South and you get the

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<v Speaker 1>NFC South most importantly, so to me, the floor this

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<v Speaker 1>team should be, yeah, making the playoffs seventh and or

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<v Speaker 1>else it's a disaster. And you know, I'm into Onoman's

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<v Speaker 1>first play of training camp, twenty yard downfield strike to

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Jones.

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<v Speaker 2>Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe let's go to the Bengals. It's a great omen

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<v Speaker 1>just just a seed. I think it'll be good.

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<v Speaker 3>Lo Mari Year say Jones was out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Jay Jones, didn't I.

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<v Speaker 3>Zay Flowers grag, you're steering man, your steedt.

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<v Speaker 2>Zay Flowers the Bengals, what's get bringing us? Joy?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe how much optimism there is about the

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<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Bengals coming off a six win team. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's born out from the Dexter Lawrence trade and the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Joe Burrow has talked about this is the

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<v Speaker 1>best Bengals team that we've ever had, and they did

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<v Speaker 1>very on Bengals theme on Bengals things this offseason in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of signing Boy Mafe and bringing in Dexter Lawrence,

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<v Speaker 1>and it does kind of feel like, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>not now, then when for Burrow, Chase Higgins, certainly Zach Taylor,

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<v Speaker 1>but even that threesome. So it's like, let's not just

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<v Speaker 1>be good on offense and have that record where we're

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<v Speaker 1>have a losing record where we score thirty points but

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<v Speaker 1>we lose when we blame it on the defense. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>just let's be great. Let's be the best offense in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. Let's not leave anything to chance, like do it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the year.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that the thing that's bringing me joy. I

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<v Speaker 3>think this probably applies to the other three starting quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 3>in this division overall, but the fact that they're imagining

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<v Speaker 3>their reactions is just so joyful. When they don't, they

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<v Speaker 3>realize they don't have to, you know, be against Miles

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<v Speaker 3>Garrett anymore, and when that actually sinks in when a

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<v Speaker 3>starting those games or planning for those games, and what

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of relief is going to feel like. But really,

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<v Speaker 3>what it is to me is I never really got

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<v Speaker 3>into the show's succession because I don't like TV shows

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<v Speaker 3>where I hate every character. But this Bengals team is

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<v Speaker 3>going to give me like a real life drama on

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<v Speaker 3>plot right, because the front office has put themselves in

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<v Speaker 3>a position where it cannot possibly be their fault if

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<v Speaker 3>things go wrong. This is all going to be on

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<v Speaker 3>the coaching staff. And they got the quarterback everything he

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<v Speaker 3>ever wanted, and they actually took big swings, which brought

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<v Speaker 3>me a lot of joy to see them actually swinging

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<v Speaker 3>hard for different things and taking risks and trading top

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<v Speaker 3>picks for a top player that they think is at

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<v Speaker 3>a premier position for them and a need in Dexter Lawrence.

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<v Speaker 3>They swung hard, the front office did. And so this

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<v Speaker 3>is a separation. Now, I told you last year you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to see when all of it starts. It starts

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<v Speaker 3>right here. This is the split. We did everything, we

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<v Speaker 3>did our jobs, we did everything. Now it's on you.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't got it, you're gone.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, Joe Burrow potentially want to be gone if things

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<v Speaker 1>go poorly, like can you keep Higgins and Chase together forever?

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't be surprised if Duke Tobin, who's the quasi

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<v Speaker 1>general manager, has gone as well if it went poorly.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's set up to too well.

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<v Speaker 3>High ceiling, really high ceiling.

0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:16.959
<v Speaker 1>Really high ceiling team. And yeah, I will always defend

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<v Speaker 1>Kendall Roy. Definitely Shive Roy. I mean to me, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of likable characters Tom I like them. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we all have a fault. That's my succession review. Most

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<v Speaker 1>important non quarterback, I'll go Dexter Lawrence. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>him a lot when he got traded, and it's similar

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<v Speaker 1>to how I talked about Trade Hendrickson with the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>He just has to be closer to where he was

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of years ago before the injury than he

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<v Speaker 1>was last year. And that's real pass rush juice. Because

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<v Speaker 1>this team does not have a lot next to him.

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<v Speaker 1>You can say, okay, you brought Boie Mafi. I like

0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.000
<v Speaker 1>boy Mafi. Boy Mafi worked well as one piece out

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<v Speaker 1>of six pretty effective US rushers, and he's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>that for them. But those are your two main guys.

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<v Speaker 1>They've already lost some Stewart who really struggled as a rookie.

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<v Speaker 2>To an injury. Maybe it winds up.

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<v Speaker 3>To not watch the serious, don't watch the video.

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<v Speaker 1>But Lawrence can make so many people better. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>type of force multiplier that can make the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the line where there's some like decent depth options. I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, you know, Casius Howell to on the

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<v Speaker 1>edge as a draft pick, like they have players, but

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<v Speaker 1>he has to be the dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I like that Cassius Howel pick. I was a

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<v Speaker 3>little higher on that I think than consensus. But for me,

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<v Speaker 3>the most non important non quarterback is Al Golden, so

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<v Speaker 3>the defensive coordinator, because he that defense did actually improve

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<v Speaker 3>over the back half of the season. It legitimately got better.

0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:39.800
<v Speaker 3>DJ Turner was very very good for him for them.

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<v Speaker 3>The corner. Dax Hill, their other corner, was very very

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<v Speaker 3>good for them. Showed his potential, especially you know in

0:18:46.720 --> 0:18:48.560
<v Speaker 3>Jalen Davis seems like he'll at least be in the

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<v Speaker 3>lead for that nickel position. So at least they have

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<v Speaker 3>that settled right, and they've got their front they think

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<v Speaker 3>figured out a little bit better, especially with an anchor

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<v Speaker 3>like Dexter Lawrence playing there. I like the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>they brought in a little bit of depth, a little

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<v Speaker 3>competition to Carrio Davis, the corner, the rookie corner that

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<v Speaker 3>they drafted. I feel like I'm interested in I'm interested

0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:10.960
<v Speaker 3>in the size speed combination. I'm interested to see how

0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.760
<v Speaker 3>he can compete. And I think that the combination of

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<v Speaker 3>Dexter Lawrence, you know, sort of as I say, this

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<v Speaker 3>a lot the center of that solar system around all

0:19:19.160 --> 0:19:20.360
<v Speaker 3>things orbiting.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.439
<v Speaker 3>The linebackers still like they were. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 3>didn't think they were very good, and they showed some

0:19:27.200 --> 0:19:29.280
<v Speaker 3>improvement again like the rest of the defense near the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the season. But they just need to continue that.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to sustain what we saw in like little

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<v Speaker 3>spurts and flashes last year, and they need to like

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<v Speaker 3>put it all together in a way that makes sense,

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<v Speaker 3>not just players making their plays the way that we

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<v Speaker 3>saw with DJ Turner at times. You know, everything has

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<v Speaker 3>to actually work together, and Al Golden has to be

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<v Speaker 3>the one to put that all together.

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<v Speaker 1>And he didn't show that he could. The Bengals fans

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<v Speaker 1>in I think rightly are trying to hold on to

0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:01.240
<v Speaker 1>that improvement. But historically, being way better down the stretch

0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:03.639
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean you're going to be better the next season.

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<v Speaker 1>The best test is how you were over the course

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<v Speaker 1>of the season. They were the worst defense in the

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, in the NFL, and one of the worst

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<v Speaker 1>ever for the first half, and in the end it

0:20:11.760 --> 0:20:14.679
<v Speaker 1>added up to one of the worst three or four defenses.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he hasn't shown Al Golden, who was the

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<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame defensive coordinator. So he's bumping up from from

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<v Speaker 1>college at least, you know, for the last three years

0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:28.240
<v Speaker 1>he was in college, and maybe he had a learning curve,

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<v Speaker 1>So he's gonna have to show it because they're not

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<v Speaker 1>getting much schematic advantage, I don't think on offense, and

0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:36.040
<v Speaker 1>they need it on defense. That leads me to my

0:20:36.200 --> 0:20:39.720
<v Speaker 1>scheme dream, which is we are on like year six

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<v Speaker 1>of hearing that Joe Burrow is open to more play action,

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<v Speaker 1>that the running game will be under center. Joe Burrow, yeah,

0:20:50.080 --> 0:20:53.959
<v Speaker 1>famously loves to play in shotgun. It feels like it's

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow's offense really, and they build it around him,

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<v Speaker 1>which which makes sense that he hasn't been as comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>you know, under center. They just haven't done that, and

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<v Speaker 1>they say, he says he's open to doing that, and

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks, you know, that could help out Chase Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>And the running game.

0:21:11.160 --> 0:21:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Which was erratic last year, really struggled at the beginning

0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:18.680
<v Speaker 1>of the year. They were awful and looked better when

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Flacco was under center. And so I don't think

0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:25.280
<v Speaker 1>that's a total coincidence because Joe Flacco is not running

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<v Speaker 1>that Joe Burrow offense.

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<v Speaker 2>And I I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want to start a controversy here, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the efficiency numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>Had a oh I did Joe.

0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:38.480
<v Speaker 1>Flacco Bengals offense was like a little better than the

0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow They were both very good, to be clear, But.

0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:43.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Joe Flaco offense said they ran the ball better.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's my scheme, little point. Will they actually

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<v Speaker 2>do that? It'll be interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the only time, one of the few times

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<v Speaker 3>I've gotten like a definite, like a very very definitive

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<v Speaker 3>no that didn't sound like a no on a story

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:56.720
<v Speaker 3>pitch that I've pitched to a pr person is me

0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:59.240
<v Speaker 3>pitching the story and then him looking at me for

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<v Speaker 3>a long minute and saying, I'll pray on it, so.

0:22:02.680 --> 0:22:04.280
<v Speaker 2>That is you will pray on it.

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<v Speaker 3>That is Joe Burrow, I'll pray on it. We'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll figure, we'll see once I get out there. Maybe

0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:10.560
<v Speaker 3>I just want to be in the gun. That's the

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<v Speaker 3>thing I hoped you brought up, because the other thing

0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.359
<v Speaker 3>that kind of drive has driven me crazy about the

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:17.320
<v Speaker 3>Bengals is they have so much talent. We know the

0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 3>Jamar Chase factor. That's an omen and a sign. That

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<v Speaker 3>was the first pass from scrimmage here out of Bengals

0:22:22.840 --> 0:22:28.040
<v Speaker 3>camp I saw on social media, and this is a

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<v Speaker 3>a Joe Burrow passed to Jamar Chase that was effective.

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<v Speaker 2>Not when he started the fight with TJ.

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<v Speaker 3>No that was effective. I don't know if that's not good,

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<v Speaker 3>not that omen inside. I don't know what to think

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<v Speaker 3>about that one. But this is a thirty percent twelve

0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:44.199
<v Speaker 3>personnel rate team, right. The problem that I have with

0:22:44.240 --> 0:22:47.719
<v Speaker 3>this is that when you run twelve personnel today and

0:22:47.880 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 3>last year in this league, and in this year and

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<v Speaker 3>probably the season after that too, both of your tight

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<v Speaker 3>ends have to be a threat in not just the

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<v Speaker 3>passing game, but in another way too. Or they have

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<v Speaker 3>to compliment each other in order to build those threats together.

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<v Speaker 3>So you've got Mike Gasicki, who did miss time last year,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's like one of the worst yards after the

0:23:07.760 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 3>catch tight ends in the NFL. And then they've gotten

0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:11.879
<v Speaker 3>and his names just gaving me their blocking tight end.

0:23:12.280 --> 0:23:16.880
<v Speaker 3>And these guys are not first of all, being utilized

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<v Speaker 3>in the ways that we're seeing twelve personnel be incredibly

0:23:19.200 --> 0:23:23.280
<v Speaker 3>effective as true as a true mismatch combination. Mike Kasiki

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<v Speaker 3>is a great pass catcher and very explosive when he

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<v Speaker 3>has the chance. Yeah, the thing that I would like

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<v Speaker 3>to see if they're going to do this and build

0:23:30.320 --> 0:23:33.720
<v Speaker 3>dimension into their offense is it's a very very small,

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 3>nitpicky thing, but build more like yards after the catch

0:23:36.600 --> 0:23:39.719
<v Speaker 3>potential yards after the catch plays and guys that can

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.880
<v Speaker 3>actually do that to add more efficiency and to get

0:23:42.960 --> 0:23:46.879
<v Speaker 3>you guys ahead of the sticks on especially second down,

0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:48.399
<v Speaker 3>where they were one of the worst teams in the

0:23:48.480 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 3>NFL run and pass last year, and so that getting

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:54.680
<v Speaker 3>those after the catch plays going on early downs really

0:23:54.680 --> 0:23:57.720
<v Speaker 3>really helps with your overall efficiency and makes this offense

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<v Speaker 3>more stable long term. I know it's a nit pick,

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:02.600
<v Speaker 3>but I just I don't I see they are like, well,

0:24:02.600 --> 0:24:05.320
<v Speaker 3>we have this player, and it's like, well, there's more

0:24:05.400 --> 0:24:07.920
<v Speaker 3>you can do with twelve personnel than just this.

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<v Speaker 1>They are quite deep in the tight end room, which

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I like on paper. Tanner Hudson's played a lot for them.

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Jew sample is who you're thinking about, who've been there

0:24:15.400 --> 0:24:16.040
<v Speaker 1>forever kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>I've made it.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a sample size pun and I didn't even

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<v Speaker 3>use it.

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<v Speaker 1>But eric Al was a fourth round pick two years

0:24:22.040 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>ago that looked like he was really going to be

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<v Speaker 1>like a complete good tight end. Then suffered a tough

0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:29.240
<v Speaker 1>injury and it was tough for him to come back

0:24:29.320 --> 0:24:32.080
<v Speaker 1>last year. So they do have options. You know, they

0:24:32.080 --> 0:24:35.439
<v Speaker 1>still have andre Yoshavash as their third receiver. I'm just

0:24:35.480 --> 0:24:38.159
<v Speaker 1>pointing out, like it's a very deep offense. It's not

0:24:38.320 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>just those three guys. I love Chase Brown, who who's

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:43.480
<v Speaker 1>going for a new contract. You mentioned the linebackers earlier.

0:24:43.560 --> 0:24:47.640
<v Speaker 1>That's my answer for things go wrong. If Demetrius Knight

0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and Barrett Carter are the names of the rookies last

0:24:50.080 --> 0:24:53.399
<v Speaker 1>year that were the worst linebacker combination in the league,

0:24:53.800 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 1>this defense was lost in general, they're just counting on

0:24:56.200 --> 0:24:59.120
<v Speaker 1>coaching and development. I was shocked they didn't do more

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:03.280
<v Speaker 1>this offseas to help that position specifically. I think it's

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:05.440
<v Speaker 1>a pretty good roster. Otherwise they have Orn Burks who's

0:25:05.440 --> 0:25:08.600
<v Speaker 1>played a lot of NFL football. But if your linebackers

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:11.479
<v Speaker 1>are getting cooked week after week, you're kind of doa

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:12.800
<v Speaker 1>as a defense. So that's where I go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's two things that I like this team a

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:17.920
<v Speaker 3>lot on paper, and I think it's an explosive, high

0:25:17.920 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 3>ceiling offense potential, right, But they're counting on two things,

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.199
<v Speaker 3>and that's my things go wrong if you're counting on

0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:25.480
<v Speaker 3>the wrong things to go right for you, which is

0:25:25.560 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 3>a that your scheme and your teaching and your players

0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.119
<v Speaker 3>have evolved, or they're going to take the next step

0:25:32.160 --> 0:25:34.720
<v Speaker 3>forward in a way that makes sense, that is functional

0:25:34.720 --> 0:25:37.840
<v Speaker 3>for the entire group, that puts everyone in the best

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 3>position to play, and not just the quarterback, although that

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 3>matters too. And then are you overly depending on the

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 3>fact that just people are getting healthy again, And that

0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.520
<v Speaker 3>to me is a big question. Their camp, their field

0:25:49.560 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 3>stuff just started today, right, so we just don't know

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:54.679
<v Speaker 3>what we don't know yet. But for me, things go

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 3>wrong if they've depended too much on the wrong things.

0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.840
<v Speaker 1>One minute, they've also gotten a repation as well. We

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<v Speaker 1>fix the offensive line. When I watch you know, I

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.600
<v Speaker 1>know on paper, Amarus Mims is a good right tackle,

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Orlando Brown. They've paid a lot of money to that.

0:26:08.640 --> 0:26:11.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's great. They are coming all

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:13.600
<v Speaker 1>back for the right and the but the interior lines,

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 1>like when I watch him, I don't think of I

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>don't think they perform like a great offensive line. Maybe

0:26:17.760 --> 0:26:20.399
<v Speaker 1>it's partly because of what we talked about with Burrow.

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:23.480
<v Speaker 1>It's not helping out the running game and it's just

0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>a pass past past offense. I gotta I gotta see it.

0:26:27.280 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>And yet, when I think about the ceiling of this team,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think ceiling floor that they can be one

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:36.399
<v Speaker 1>of the teams that win the Super Bowl? The weird

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.280
<v Speaker 1>thing is, well, I'll let you answer first.

0:26:38.640 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 3>Well, I feel like you wanted to answer very badly.

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<v Speaker 3>I do feel I feel like they are one of

0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:46.080
<v Speaker 3>the teams that can get to the super Bowl. I

0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 3>feel like I see their schedule and I see this

0:26:48.640 --> 0:26:51.239
<v Speaker 3>division how we likes, just strange it is. And I

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:54.760
<v Speaker 3>see that their quarterback and what he can do, and

0:26:54.840 --> 0:26:58.879
<v Speaker 3>the again, like I mentioned, the explosive ceiling, if they

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 3>can just be like middle third. Defensively, I think this

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 3>offense takes them a lot farther.

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Sure, and then what's the floor?

0:27:08.280 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 3>Then, oh, same as we've been seeing, you know, and

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:15.160
<v Speaker 3>certainly like injury or not, you know, everyone they're doing

0:27:15.200 --> 0:27:18.160
<v Speaker 3>the same thing. You know, it's not working. The defense

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 3>is getting carved apart.

0:27:19.400 --> 0:27:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Because they I mean, they won six games last year.

0:27:21.880 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 1>That was pretty low.

0:27:22.840 --> 0:27:25.040
<v Speaker 3>It's a huge variance team. I compare it to some

0:27:25.080 --> 0:27:27.440
<v Speaker 3>of these There are a few teams that I think

0:27:27.560 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 3>have extraordinary variants from what their ceiling is and what

0:27:31.440 --> 0:27:33.080
<v Speaker 3>their floor is, and I think the Bengals are one

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:33.360
<v Speaker 3>of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>And yet the last three years they have not won

0:27:36.040 --> 0:27:38.639
<v Speaker 1>ten games in any of those seasons. Pretty crazy with

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow, and you'd be like, oh, Joe Burrow's been hurt.

0:27:40.920 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>They've been pretty close to a five hundred team. I think,

0:27:43.480 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>just over it when Joe Burrow starts. They do have

0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>one of the best backup quarterbacks in the league right now.

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Flacco is still playing at a high level. He's going

0:27:50.920 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>to have a second year in that system.

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.680
<v Speaker 3>So till you're starting this controversy up.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, their floor is more like nine to eight,

0:27:57.000 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>which is where they were twenty three and twenty four.

0:27:59.560 --> 0:28:01.720
<v Speaker 1>They you know, they had a winning record at least,

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, they're ceiling. I can't I can't see them

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:06.480
<v Speaker 1>winning the super Bowl because they're the Bengals.

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 3>I could making it to it though.

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean yeah, I'm gonna put them in the

0:28:10.920 --> 0:28:13.680
<v Speaker 1>conference championship. I'm sorry, that's that's your ceiling. You're gonna

0:28:13.680 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 1>get there and you're gonna be like, we have a

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>chance to win the super Bowl. But then you'll think

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.679
<v Speaker 1>back to this episode and think, Nope, it's all going

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:19.360
<v Speaker 1>to end right here.

0:28:19.359 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>To me, that's I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I really wish that Jordan threw out her Drew sample.

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 3>Pun I what was it for another time? Greg?

0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you've brought it up twice.

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 3>We're onto the Browns.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not. We're going to take a quick break and

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<v Speaker 2>then we'll be onto the bread.

0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Back on NFL Daily, the much rumored, much anticipated, much

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:57.760
<v Speaker 1>talked about preview of the Cleveland Browns. What's bringing you joy? No,

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:00.120
<v Speaker 1>you're not getting joy.

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 3>What is bringing me? Cautious optimism is a better framing

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:09.240
<v Speaker 3>of my boundaries. I'm in therapy. Cautious optimism for me. Yes,

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 3>the offensive line is pretty much all new again, but

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 3>I think it's maybe on a better track this time

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.280
<v Speaker 3>than is certainly what they tried to do last year.

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 3>And I think that there's some young talent that I

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:22.640
<v Speaker 3>really like and fused in there. I was really high

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 3>on Spencer Fanno. I think he's going to be a

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 3>really great player. Titus Howard is the other tackle, hopefully

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 3>he takes a step forward, and Zion Johnson who had

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 3>a really rough time of it in Los Angeles with

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 3>the Chargers before coming over to the Browns. They're hoping

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:40.120
<v Speaker 3>a fresh start is really good for him. And Tevin

0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Jenkins is the other guard and Elgton, which I can

0:29:43.320 --> 0:29:45.520
<v Speaker 3>never say the first time. Jenkins is the new center.

0:29:46.240 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 3>The thing about this and four of the five spots

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 3>are new, and yes Elkton Jenkins has had some injury

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.720
<v Speaker 3>history as well. Coming over from the Packers. They did

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:58.880
<v Speaker 3>bring a rookie fifth rounder, Parker Brailsford, who is the

0:29:59.120 --> 0:30:02.240
<v Speaker 3>starter at Alabama, which I always like. I always like

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 3>when you've got sort of like a veteran experience starter,

0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.240
<v Speaker 3>even if you're getting him in the later rounds, and

0:30:06.280 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 3>they needed to infuse some depth in here. They're kind

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 3>of going with this like young wait till next year

0:30:12.120 --> 0:30:14.560
<v Speaker 3>kind of vibe internally, and so I think that this

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:17.280
<v Speaker 3>is very much indicative of that. And I'd like to

0:30:17.280 --> 0:30:19.680
<v Speaker 3>see them improve, and I am cautiously optimistic that they

0:30:19.680 --> 0:30:20.400
<v Speaker 3>will over the course.

0:30:20.480 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got way too old on the offensive line

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.200
<v Speaker 1>last year. Look Zion Johnson. The Chargers were happy enough

0:30:25.200 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>about him that they gave him a monster contract offer

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>to come back. So I think he timed his best

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>play well. And there the Browns I think are rightly

0:30:33.960 --> 0:30:37.800
<v Speaker 1>high on this offensive line. Good trick here for Elton Jenkins.

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<v Speaker 1>The G silent I'll just ignore it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I can't ignore it because it's a L and

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<v Speaker 3>a G and that's in my brain.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just right there in the middle of the word.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very complicated.

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:51.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna have to type it like Elton john to

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<v Speaker 3>get this right.

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 2>It took me like five years.

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it was hearing some Packers announcer that just

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<v Speaker 1>and then I looked it up.

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:00.760
<v Speaker 2>It was like, oh, the G silent love, I love it.

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>You want to move in silence on you, like like

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>the GM lasagna, Little Wayne. Yeah, the youth is what's

0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 1>bringing me joy. Aaron Schotz did a ranking of the

0:31:11.240 --> 0:31:17.200
<v Speaker 1>best teams for under twenty five talent. Cleveland Brown's top five,

0:31:17.880 --> 0:31:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and I buy it. Harold Fannon coming off surgery at

0:31:21.040 --> 0:31:24.640
<v Speaker 1>tight end, but he's already practicing. Quen John Juggins also

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 1>got hurt, so there is some Browns curse here, but

0:31:27.320 --> 0:31:32.440
<v Speaker 1>loved Juggins coming. Carson Schwesterner like could have an incredible

0:31:33.120 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 1>career based on his rookie season. I love the on

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>paper the draft, although we'll see you know, Casey Conception

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>and Denzel Boston are fun at receiver. It's a lot

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.239
<v Speaker 1>of good young talent That kind of leads me right too,

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 1>because it's all connected that like Schwestender or Spencer fan

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.840
<v Speaker 1>of the left tackle are my two most important n quarterbacks.

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you had one of those and

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:56.960
<v Speaker 1>then I wouldn't talk about him.

0:31:57.360 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 3>No, I like, I like that. I would love to

0:31:59.520 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 3>hear more.

0:31:59.880 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Of your thoughts because Fano it's left tackle. They had

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:07.920
<v Speaker 1>their choice of the entire draft on the offensive line.

0:32:08.000 --> 0:32:11.280
<v Speaker 1>That's where they decided to go and if they get

0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>that pick right. As good as their rookie class was

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>last year, it was almost exclusively at the non premium positions.

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Now you throw a left tackle in the mix that's

0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>a legit guy, and hopefully one or two of these

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.000
<v Speaker 1>receivers work out, then you really have something for their

0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:28.800
<v Speaker 1>quarterback of the future. And I don't want to repeat

0:32:28.800 --> 0:32:31.520
<v Speaker 1>what I said listened to the under twenty five team

0:32:31.520 --> 0:32:34.200
<v Speaker 1>we did was shook earlier. But Questionner has a chance

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>to be like a franchise pick. And I don't want

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>to put you don't want to put that on someone

0:32:39.560 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>right away, but can he be like a defining player.

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:46.880
<v Speaker 1>There's a difference, I think between having a good rookie

0:32:46.920 --> 0:32:50.000
<v Speaker 1>season that he did really good and becoming that guy.

0:32:50.080 --> 0:32:52.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's just doing it again and doing it at

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>a higher level.

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 3>That's where my most important non quarterback I went again

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 3>here with the coach, and that's Mike Rutenberg of the

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 3>Rutenberg Bible. I feel like it's it's just such huge

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.560
<v Speaker 3>shoes to fill. It's a really tough job to take

0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 3>on following the really messy departure of Jim Schwartz, and

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.720
<v Speaker 3>I think what he can do best is really lean

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 3>into the things that already worked, and he's got new personnel.

0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:16.480
<v Speaker 3>Miles Garrett has obviously been traded, Jared versus is there

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Jared versus an outstanding young talent who's really going to

0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.800
<v Speaker 3>anchor one side of that offensive line. It's going to

0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:26.200
<v Speaker 3>be an Alex Wright and Isaiah Maguire combination. Probably on

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:29.120
<v Speaker 3>the other side, Malik Collins should be back. Like this

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 3>looks on paper like this could be a Yes rebuilt. No,

0:33:33.920 --> 0:33:36.600
<v Speaker 3>it's not, Miles Garrett Less. It's like, you know, flipping

0:33:36.640 --> 0:33:39.040
<v Speaker 3>on a light bulb versus turning on the surface of

0:33:39.080 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 3>the sun. But this is like, this has real potential.

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 3>With Sweatchinger in the back, you're not worried about cleaning

0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 3>up the table for the linebackers as much with what

0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 3>you do up front. And then they've got some real

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 3>talent in the defensive backfield. Denzel Ward gets paid, Grant

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.240
<v Speaker 3>Delpit gets paid. I know you guys covered that on

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 3>the news show. And Emmanuel McNeil Warren the safety out

0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.520
<v Speaker 3>of Toledo. I really liked him in the draft. So

0:34:01.560 --> 0:34:04.520
<v Speaker 3>it just all fits kind of the architecture that already existed.

0:34:04.920 --> 0:34:06.920
<v Speaker 3>He has a similar he comes from, like a similar

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:11.439
<v Speaker 3>scheme rules in terms of his coverages that Jim Schwartz did.

0:34:11.600 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 3>They like covering up the middle of the field, they

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:17.640
<v Speaker 3>like really playing aggressively and really complimenting in that way

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 3>with the front and I just he just needs to

0:34:21.040 --> 0:34:23.600
<v Speaker 3>not try to do too much. Just just let these

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:25.320
<v Speaker 3>guys develop and play to their strengths.

0:34:25.520 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I always worry about that, and and sometimes it works.

0:34:28.360 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 1>The coach that comes in, it's like, we're not going

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>to change everything. Where ethan inheriting like almost an elite situation.

0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.759
<v Speaker 1>But then I think about guys like Josh Grizzard last year,

0:34:38.880 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 1>like who was trying to do that a lot of

0:34:40.360 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>times when he tried to just like hold on to

0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.480
<v Speaker 1>what happened before. It's tough because you're not just losing

0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:47.200
<v Speaker 1>Miles Garrett. You're losing Miles Garrett and Jim Schwartz. And

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:50.840
<v Speaker 1>that's that's why things go go wrong. If because the

0:34:50.960 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>defense is talented, I think Quincy Williams could have like

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:58.080
<v Speaker 1>a pop up good year, like rebounding next to the

0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Swessenger as like a guy who just does crazy stuff.

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.480
<v Speaker 2>You're laughing because I killed Quincy Williams all last year.

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that, but also I'm like, I don't even know

0:35:05.160 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 3>if I should tell you what my things go wrong?

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.239
<v Speaker 3>Is continue not tell me?

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because part of them collapsing on defense, and defense

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>is unpredictable. Is like, if it doesn't go well, like

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.520
<v Speaker 1>they could start trading guys, you know, and they're just

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.120
<v Speaker 1>that team. We haven't even talked about the quarterback situation,

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>but it's Shitter Sanders and Deshaun Watson, two guys who

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:27.719
<v Speaker 1>no one expects to be the quarterback next year. And

0:35:27.760 --> 0:35:31.000
<v Speaker 1>so like, if the defense is let's say twentieth in

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the NFL for the first six or seven weeks, they're

0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:35.360
<v Speaker 1>probably one and six at that point.

0:35:35.480 --> 0:35:36.520
<v Speaker 2>And then do.

0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 3>You not think are happy happy about that? I don't

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:40.440
<v Speaker 3>think they're trading players at that point? Do you not

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:43.319
<v Speaker 3>think they're happy about that? My things go wrong if

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.360
<v Speaker 3>as if they play too well.

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like the schedule could help them, can help them out.

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 3>And then look at and this goes to some First

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 3>of all, I think the defense is going to be

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 3>good still, and then the scheme dream part for me

0:35:56.800 --> 0:36:00.880
<v Speaker 3>is I love all the move players all over this offense.

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:03.759
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of awesome. They've got some holes still. I'm

0:36:03.760 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 3>looking at you know, their receivers is still you know,

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 3>a little bit thin in parts. It's partially rebuilt with

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.560
<v Speaker 3>Casey conception on and Denzil Boston, Jerry Judy is still there.

0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm still looking to see who steps in and kind

0:36:16.120 --> 0:36:18.640
<v Speaker 3>of fills out that complimentary room the way that they

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:21.439
<v Speaker 3>want to. Dylan Samson, the second running back, second stream

0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:23.840
<v Speaker 3>running back, was actually the number one running back in

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.920
<v Speaker 3>screen EPA last season. And this is like a Harold

0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 3>fannin all these receivers build layers and textures and can

0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 3>move into different positions at once, and there's motion and

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 3>there's formation changes, and like, I like it.

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:42.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not a bad roster that Andrew Berry's put together,

0:36:43.080 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 1>minus the quarterbacks. The questions, right, it's like can the

0:36:47.040 --> 0:36:49.720
<v Speaker 1>young players keep it up? And can the wide receiver

0:36:50.200 --> 0:36:52.560
<v Speaker 1>room somehow sort out? And yet you have four or

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>five guys if you count Isaiah Bond and Cidric Tillman

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>as guys like who could contribute. Bill Simmons was on

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 1>mina Shower earlier this week and threw them out as

0:37:01.960 --> 0:37:03.760
<v Speaker 1>like a potential playoff team, and I was like, wow,

0:37:03.920 --> 0:37:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I've not heard anyone say that. But if you were

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>looking for a stunning surprise, like I always look to

0:37:10.120 --> 0:37:13.439
<v Speaker 1>the lines first as who could be a surprising team,

0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 1>And there are routes to these lines. Yeah, being quite effective.

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't see it. I don't think that's how it's

0:37:19.000 --> 0:37:21.839
<v Speaker 1>going to go in the end. But they're a little

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>more talented than some of the bottom dwellers.

0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I wouldn't normally do this, but with the Browns,

0:37:26.640 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 3>I think you have to because you have to look

0:37:28.280 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 3>at next season with them. I think they've made that

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.960
<v Speaker 3>very clear with some of the moves that they've made,

0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:37.000
<v Speaker 3>and then really accentuating the draft the last two drafts

0:37:37.040 --> 0:37:40.080
<v Speaker 3>as a total rebuild, of almost total rebuild, they kept,

0:37:40.080 --> 0:37:42.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, they obviously kept some like pillars quote unquote,

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 3>but so far they have eleven first round picks in

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty seven. Again, I would not bring this up

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.080
<v Speaker 3>this early, but this is kind of what they're looking

0:37:50.120 --> 0:37:53.120
<v Speaker 3>at too. The two first rounders are there, but it's

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:56.040
<v Speaker 3>really interesting they don't so far have twos or threes,

0:37:56.480 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 3>so it's almost like it next year yet. And so

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.680
<v Speaker 3>if you really are gonna maybe play too well and

0:38:03.800 --> 0:38:06.640
<v Speaker 3>play yourself out of quarterback contention, what you actually need

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 3>other than those two first is actually the twos and

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:13.439
<v Speaker 3>threes to bundle into short term capital gain for the team.

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 3>That's trading their first round pick to you to move up.

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:19.560
<v Speaker 3>So this is a very delicate and strange tightrope that

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 3>they're walking. I think I'm assuming they're going to be

0:38:21.560 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 3>better than they were last year, and that's why I'm

0:38:23.640 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 3>sort of talking about it like this. But it's like

0:38:26.640 --> 0:38:29.759
<v Speaker 3>that is a really funny place to be. Is hey,

0:38:29.880 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 3>your roster kind of looks like it's got some juice

0:38:31.920 --> 0:38:34.640
<v Speaker 3>to it at this point, and could you maybe have

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 3>backed yourself into the wrong corner here?

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:36.879
<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.799
<v Speaker 1>And Todd Mounkin is the new head coach there, and

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>can he provide a schematic advantage? I think he's overall

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:48.080
<v Speaker 1>been an effective, inventive offensive coordinator, had some great years

0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:50.920
<v Speaker 1>with Lamar Jackson. Fell apart a little last year, but

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:56.600
<v Speaker 1>overall was good, great there. It's just it's just the quarterbacks.

0:38:56.640 --> 0:38:59.799
<v Speaker 1>Like the talk about bad omens. The first play of

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 1>h brownstraining Camp or no, this wasn't a first play,

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:07.439
<v Speaker 1>but within the first practice of brownstraining Camp, Watson through

0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>interceptions on back to back place and that's just.

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>It says where he's at.

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I assume should Sanders is going to play more football

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:18.919
<v Speaker 1>than Deshaun Watson. I think Shouldar Sanders has a chance

0:39:18.960 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 1>to carve out a solid NFL career, and this would

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>be the year to really make it happen and improve

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>as a second.

0:39:24.760 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 3>Year player I have I'm on the record on this

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.880
<v Speaker 3>show talking about how I'm higher I think than some

0:39:30.120 --> 0:39:33.160
<v Speaker 3>on the upside of him long term of Shouldar Sanders.

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 3>I also don't ever underestimate the pride and some of

0:39:39.200 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 3>the ego that goes into trying to make a contract work,

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:45.880
<v Speaker 3>even if it's a late you know, a late effort.

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.000
<v Speaker 3>And I would not be surprised if this is not

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:53.239
<v Speaker 3>reported or whatever, but that just my vibe. Reed, I

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:56.839
<v Speaker 3>would not be surprised if we see Deshaun Watson, then

0:39:56.840 --> 0:39:59.040
<v Speaker 3>they just try to make it work the entire season.

0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:05.719
<v Speaker 1>I am hoping for Browns fans for myself, who you know,

0:40:05.760 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm a hater that just Deshaun Watson gives them no

0:40:09.320 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>choice but to benjam to not play him in the.

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Foot would before he would have before last time he

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:15.680
<v Speaker 3>took the field right.

0:40:15.719 --> 0:40:18.160
<v Speaker 1>And I even mean like in camp like this, and

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:22.200
<v Speaker 1>that's where you love football, because if he plays at

0:40:22.200 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>the level. Some of the reporters who've been watching him

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>this offseason have indicated and that he's played last time

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 1>he had a chance, Like they can want to see

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>if it's gonna work out, but he might give them

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the answer, and just watching him for three weeks be like,

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:40.359
<v Speaker 1>we can't play this guy. We actually maybe just feel good.

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's get rid of him before the season even starts.

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Give the Browns fans some you know, they'll just feel

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>lighter if that happens.

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:48.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, we've been saying this for years.

0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, but I'm just saying, if he was awful,

0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe you just roll with shitter and then Dylan Gabriel

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 1>is your is your backup? Well, I hope little lan

0:40:57.400 --> 0:40:59.120
<v Speaker 1>yapp here. That's just when we give some the extra

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:03.680
<v Speaker 1>there en percentage. The century is three forty three, three

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>forty three. The next closest worst team in the NFL

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:11.520
<v Speaker 1>is the over the you know, twenty first centuries, the Raiders,

0:41:12.160 --> 0:41:13.720
<v Speaker 1>but they're at three ninety something.

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 2>That's a huge gap.

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Like the difference between them and the Raiders is like

0:41:17.480 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>the difference between the Raiders and like the twentieth team

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.200
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Oh, my lord, ceiling floor you indicated.

0:41:22.239 --> 0:41:24.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that they're ceiling maybe is a little higher

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:24.799
<v Speaker 1>than people think.

0:41:25.000 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 3>So I actually I was looking at their schedule and

0:41:26.600 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 3>I actually saw seven possible, possible, possible wins. But you know,

0:41:33.320 --> 0:41:36.319
<v Speaker 3>I have no proof. I have no proof that they're

0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:39.600
<v Speaker 3>going to do better than expected or even at expected.

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.360
<v Speaker 3>And you know, I say this with you know a

0:41:42.360 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 3>lot of empathy for Browns fans who have just been

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:46.479
<v Speaker 3>waiting to be a quarterback away for a long time

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:48.960
<v Speaker 3>and had to deal with the blow of the trade,

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.239
<v Speaker 3>and you know, you know all of the different sort

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.840
<v Speaker 3>of strategy shifts that this team has done over the

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 3>last couple of years. But I just can't. I cannot.

0:41:57.080 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 3>I have to hedge it with possible until I actually

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.040
<v Speaker 3>see that it could be probably.

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Lord number one overall pick. Yeah, okay, so you think

0:42:03.600 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 1>they could be that bad. I think it's a similar

0:42:05.640 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>ceiling because of the schedule. I don't think it's that

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>hard to win six seven games in the NFL.

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>It's I think it's.

0:42:11.880 --> 0:42:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Over famously you think this, and I would disagree with you.

0:42:15.520 --> 0:42:17.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the numbers just on a logistics level, I

0:42:17.960 --> 0:42:19.080
<v Speaker 1>mean the numbers.

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Tell me I'm right.

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Basically eighty five percent of the league does it every year.

0:42:23.719 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Not the numbers, Greg, it's the way you say it.

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 1>It's not that hard to win six or seven games.

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:30.360
<v Speaker 1>It's been hard for the Browns, But I think I

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 1>agree with you. I do think there's a path where

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.440
<v Speaker 1>they get to six seven wins. But yeah, the floor's

0:42:36.000 --> 0:42:39.240
<v Speaker 1>three in picking high Pittsburgh.

0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Ooh spicy.

0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.439
<v Speaker 1>I think they're a variants team too, Yeah, major way.

0:42:44.560 --> 0:42:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I do think there's a higher ceiling for them. They

0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:53.320
<v Speaker 1>bring back Aaron Rodgers for one last rodeo hashtag last rodeo.

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:55.120
<v Speaker 2>They bring back Mike.

0:42:55.080 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy for one last rodeo, and he just seems so

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 1>prized and delighted and emotional. The Pittsburgh kid comes home.

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 1>And they bring back a lot of talent on both

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:10.480
<v Speaker 1>sides in terms of their line play. They pick up

0:43:10.480 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Michael Pittman in the off season. What is bringing you

0:43:13.320 --> 0:43:16.960
<v Speaker 1>joy about a team that didn't bring me a lot

0:43:17.000 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>of joy last year?

0:43:17.800 --> 0:43:20.919
<v Speaker 3>Frankly, Yeah, well I like them first of all this year.

0:43:21.440 --> 0:43:25.320
<v Speaker 3>Second of all, what really brought me joy was Aaron

0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:29.439
<v Speaker 3>Rodgers opening up the week talking about how playing more

0:43:29.520 --> 0:43:32.120
<v Speaker 3>under center will help them on early downs and getting

0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.760
<v Speaker 3>the play action going. Now, this man was in shotgun

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.320
<v Speaker 3>on almost sixty eight percent of his snaps last season,

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:40.720
<v Speaker 3>And what brought me joy was picturing Green Bay Packers

0:43:40.760 --> 0:43:45.200
<v Speaker 3>head coach Matt Lafleur reading that, reading that clip or

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 3>watching that clip on his phone and just that just

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.520
<v Speaker 3>throwing his face, trying to tell him. I tried to

0:43:51.560 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 3>tell him all those.

0:43:52.440 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 2>Years, but he did it. Like back with Green Bay

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 2>that led to the best.

0:43:56.160 --> 0:43:59.640
<v Speaker 3>But it was such a I did a partial partially

0:43:59.680 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 3>did a documentary series on it. It was like such

0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 3>a compromise. Wers like play play by play, what do

0:44:05.160 --> 0:44:06.680
<v Speaker 3>you like? What do I like? What do you like?

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 2>What do I like?

0:44:07.640 --> 0:44:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Under center, play action, run past play action, those bootlegs,

0:44:10.600 --> 0:44:13.520
<v Speaker 3>the long developing boots have always been a part of

0:44:13.640 --> 0:44:16.319
<v Speaker 3>Mike McCarthy's system. That's bringing me a little joy. We're

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 3>going to see the modern throwback version of this guy,

0:44:19.239 --> 0:44:21.440
<v Speaker 3>who I just don't think ever gets enough credit in

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:23.640
<v Speaker 3>terms of his influence on the league and how we

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:27.080
<v Speaker 3>play football today. I'm curious if he will adjust to

0:44:27.120 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 3>certain things. More on that in a later section. But

0:44:29.719 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 3>those two, the combination of that's bringing me joy.

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right of how he in New Orleans was

0:44:36.280 --> 0:44:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a very influential, young, hot shot offensive coordinator and then

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.680
<v Speaker 1>helped change the league, and I think he has adapted

0:44:43.040 --> 0:44:45.920
<v Speaker 1>more based on his personnel, and that's what's important. It's

0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:48.440
<v Speaker 1>not about the scheme. It's about like fitting your players

0:44:48.480 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 1>to the scheme. And so I am curious how this

0:44:50.480 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 1>one is going to look. And that is what's bringing

0:44:53.040 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 1>me joy is just McCarthy's offseason, utter surprise, utter joy

0:44:57.640 --> 0:45:01.319
<v Speaker 1>at the time of his life where he can openly appreciate.

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I can't freaking believe I got this job and that

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I sold the Rooneys, And I think he believes it

0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:09.040
<v Speaker 1>in his heart, and I think the Rooneys believe it

0:45:09.080 --> 0:45:11.319
<v Speaker 1>in his heart that actually.

0:45:10.920 --> 0:45:14.280
<v Speaker 2>We weren't that far away, Like the talent is there.

0:45:14.440 --> 0:45:18.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't actually think it's that crazy a notion they

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 1>if they had Rock Bertie at quarterback, I would be like,

0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:24.360
<v Speaker 1>this can be a contender Capital C. I've got my

0:45:25.320 --> 0:45:28.680
<v Speaker 1>major doubts about Aaron Rodgers, and yet the rest of

0:45:28.719 --> 0:45:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the roster and the McCarthy hire even like they needed

0:45:31.840 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 1>someone new, and even though it's McCarthy, I think they

0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>actually might get a benefit from seeing things a different way.

0:45:37.120 --> 0:45:38.800
<v Speaker 2>Who is your most important on quarterback?

0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Famously, As I told you before the show started,

0:45:41.239 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 3>had a hard time picking because there's a lot of

0:45:43.120 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 3>players who I think are going to majorly contribute to this.

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:49.160
<v Speaker 2>Team famously to who to you, okay.

0:45:49.000 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, famous, just to me famously, Okay, we're in a vacuum,

0:45:53.600 --> 0:45:55.799
<v Speaker 3>and I wanted to save Patrick Graham for my scheme

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:57.720
<v Speaker 3>dream because I'm really excited about Patrick.

0:45:57.760 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Just combine them here, Combine them.

0:45:59.400 --> 0:46:03.840
<v Speaker 3>Fine, fine, greg Patrick Graham, and the combination of this

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:07.280
<v Speaker 3>front structure, specifically Nick Herbig, who was my lead candidate

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:09.600
<v Speaker 3>for most important non quarterback, just because I think he

0:46:09.640 --> 0:46:13.880
<v Speaker 3>should play more. Patrick Graham and this defense. I'm so

0:46:14.200 --> 0:46:17.160
<v Speaker 3>curious what he's going to do with this front structure

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:20.440
<v Speaker 3>because yes, we know he's got the three edge rushers,

0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Nick Herbig, aforementioned Nick Herbig, Alex Heismith and TJ. Watt.

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:27.840
<v Speaker 3>And Nick Herbig just got paid the four year, hundred

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:31.200
<v Speaker 3>million dollar deal despite playing two hundred less snaps than

0:46:31.600 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 3>TJ Watt.

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:35.919
<v Speaker 1>Despite DJ Watt missing a big jung of the season, yes,

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:37.480
<v Speaker 1>like at the end of the year, and it couldn't

0:46:37.480 --> 0:46:38.279
<v Speaker 1>even get him on the field.

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 2>That was famous.

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:41.920
<v Speaker 3>Famously on this show. The thing about Patrick Graham that

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.880
<v Speaker 3>was a it's such a gift when he can do

0:46:45.960 --> 0:46:47.840
<v Speaker 3>it the way he wants to do it. But it

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:51.280
<v Speaker 3>became such a dead weight to him in Las Vegas

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 3>was that he's like really genuinely excellent at shaping his

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 3>scheme to his players. Like coaches say this, you just

0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:58.960
<v Speaker 3>said it. Coaches say it all the time. We want

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.319
<v Speaker 3>to evolve our scheme to our players. We want to

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 3>do what maximizes our players. He actually does not ascribe

0:47:05.200 --> 0:47:09.080
<v Speaker 3>to a specific system, although he comes from Belichick. He

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 3>has some Floras in their Spagnolo in there too, but

0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:15.600
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't say he comes from a specific playbook or

0:47:15.719 --> 0:47:18.960
<v Speaker 3>system that he has to teach. It's instead very much

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 3>player based. It's very teachable, it's very like uploadable for players,

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:26.960
<v Speaker 3>and he's very specific with them. He is not afraid

0:47:26.960 --> 0:47:29.400
<v Speaker 3>to all out blitz. He's not afraid to fake like

0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:31.680
<v Speaker 3>he's all out blitzing and then dropping everybody. He's not

0:47:31.760 --> 0:47:34.719
<v Speaker 3>afraid to design like this crazy fastball pressure. He's not

0:47:34.760 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 3>afraid of move players. I think players like Joey Porter

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Junior when he's back, Jalen Ramsey when he's back. You know,

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 3>Jamel Dean is here now, Jaquan Brisker is here now.

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 3>So we talked about the front, but this coverage structure

0:47:47.560 --> 0:47:51.040
<v Speaker 3>I think could be so exciting and so so interesting.

0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Don't think too hard about the middle of the field,

0:47:53.239 --> 0:47:57.319
<v Speaker 3>but everywhere else. I just think Patrick Graham could absolutely

0:47:57.360 --> 0:48:01.320
<v Speaker 3>design some like Brian Flora's level. Where's talking about cool,

0:48:01.400 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 3>magical stuff through the course of the season. That's my

0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:06.640
<v Speaker 3>hope and my ceiling for what that defense can look like.

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:09.800
<v Speaker 1>You texted me at eight fifteen this morning, got really

0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:12.040
<v Speaker 1>excited about Patrick Graham this morning.

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:14.200
<v Speaker 2>We are so back. I'm with you.

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 1>If I had to describe Patrick Graham's scheme over the years,

0:48:20.840 --> 0:48:24.360
<v Speaker 1>it would probably be do stuff like, we're gonna do

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.960
<v Speaker 1>some stuff, some stuff, we're not gonna not do stuff,

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and it's often very different.

0:48:28.520 --> 0:48:30.600
<v Speaker 2>It can change based on the week.

0:48:30.640 --> 0:48:33.600
<v Speaker 1>I think that's the Belichick Flora's influence, but you're right

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:36.920
<v Speaker 1>that it's not always like the same year after year,

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:40.640
<v Speaker 1>even the middle of the season. He's an interesting coach

0:48:40.640 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 1>to watch, and I think this is the most talent

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:45.000
<v Speaker 1>he's had, maybe ever. Yeah, he was back with the Giants.

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 1>They had some back then, but I think this is

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.120
<v Speaker 1>probably the best team he's had. That leads to my

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 1>most important on quarterback. Who's TJ. Watt, And I think TJ.

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Watt could benefit from Patrick Graham, Mike Tommins. Defense was

0:48:57.760 --> 0:49:01.680
<v Speaker 1>very static, was very old fashioned. Tjwatt specifically, I think

0:49:01.719 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>he didn't want to move. Yeah, but they listen to him.

0:49:04.640 --> 0:49:07.279
<v Speaker 1>They are going to move TJ. Watt around. I think

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 1>they'll rotate him more, which could benefit him. It really

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:14.560
<v Speaker 1>hurts your team build if you have a guy who's

0:49:14.600 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 1>guaranteed mid thirty million dollars for the next two seasons

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 1>and he's dragging wait a little bit. At the end

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:26.400
<v Speaker 1>of last season, he looked tired, looked a little injured.

0:49:26.480 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Was definitely their third best edge in terms of a

0:49:29.280 --> 0:49:31.680
<v Speaker 1>pass rusher. Still effective early in the year, but not

0:49:31.760 --> 0:49:32.480
<v Speaker 1>the same TJ.

0:49:32.600 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Watt.

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:38.720
<v Speaker 1>So he's just a big He's like larger than life.

0:49:38.760 --> 0:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>And if they can bring out like a late career TJ.

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:46.200
<v Speaker 1>Watt one of my most memorable seasons when I get

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:48.239
<v Speaker 1>inducted into the Hall of Fame, because he is going

0:49:48.239 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 1>into the Hall of Fame, he has already had that career.

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:53.200
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes with those guys, it's like, oh, you thought

0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:55.919
<v Speaker 1>they were declining and that at the end they show

0:49:55.920 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you a little more greatness when you weren't expecting it.

0:49:58.640 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 2>That's this season, Colin am but not for me.

0:50:02.040 --> 0:50:03.920
<v Speaker 3>No, I feel like that's part of that was part

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 3>of my herbic note is like sometimes paying the other

0:50:06.080 --> 0:50:08.319
<v Speaker 3>guy gets the best out of the first guy. And

0:50:08.440 --> 0:50:11.279
<v Speaker 3>I think that that is super super important here, that

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 3>little extra like you call it land yet, but like

0:50:13.560 --> 0:50:16.320
<v Speaker 3>that motivation and all of those different things that really

0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:20.040
<v Speaker 3>go into the and a fresh start, like a fresh

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 3>new thing to learn and thing to try to explore

0:50:23.120 --> 0:50:25.400
<v Speaker 3>and be curious about. I think that's really going to

0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 3>be important for him.

0:50:26.320 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 2>And they're doing things differently the Beat reporting.

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought Mark Clole who writes for Pat McAfee, but

0:50:33.080 --> 0:50:35.840
<v Speaker 1>he writes it on Twitter like just amazed, and everyone's

0:50:35.840 --> 0:50:37.880
<v Speaker 1>so amazed about the attention to detail and how like

0:50:38.080 --> 0:50:40.120
<v Speaker 1>organized practices and how they're doing.

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.560
<v Speaker 3>This that, and they're not tackling as hard in practice.

0:50:42.600 --> 0:50:44.400
<v Speaker 1>They're not tackling at all in terms of life tackling

0:50:44.440 --> 0:50:46.040
<v Speaker 1>like Tomlin was one of the last coaches that was

0:50:46.120 --> 0:50:49.880
<v Speaker 1>still doing that, and you almost got the sense, you know,

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>Toman had been there a long time, and I think

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:54.120
<v Speaker 1>changed sometimes just for change sakes is good. I will

0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:57.000
<v Speaker 1>give you. In terms of my scheme. Dream a test here.

0:50:57.320 --> 0:51:00.399
<v Speaker 1>If you can name can't look down. If you can

0:51:00.480 --> 0:51:05.120
<v Speaker 1>name the Steelers offensive coordinator for the twenty twenty sixth season,

0:51:05.560 --> 0:51:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I will get your next lunch at the huddle.

0:51:07.520 --> 0:51:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's it's the guy who played for who was

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:13.279
<v Speaker 3>with him in It's rollicker ball. It's something that's like

0:51:13.440 --> 0:51:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Clichio something.

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you got closer there.

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:19.200
<v Speaker 3>It's Ichyo something that's close. But he was his guy

0:51:19.239 --> 0:51:19.719
<v Speaker 3>in Green Bay.

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to give him to you. It's Brian Angelicio.

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Angelicio, I knew it. I was just like, man, I know, well,

0:51:26.280 --> 0:51:28.440
<v Speaker 3>it's like a flourish, a little flourish.

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I have to admit, not familiar with that man and

0:51:30.840 --> 0:51:34.640
<v Speaker 1>just curious, Yeah, what what we already talked about this Mike.

0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:36.799
<v Speaker 1>It's really a Mike McCarthy offense. Certainly, how he works

0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:40.200
<v Speaker 1>with quarterbacks and their drops and the details is really.

0:51:42.000 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 2>His signature.

0:51:43.000 --> 0:51:45.960
<v Speaker 1>And yet, uh, you look and they drafted Jeremy Bernard

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:48.560
<v Speaker 1>in the second round to be their third receiver. They

0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:52.160
<v Speaker 1>trade for Michael Pittman DK Metcalf. Can we get him

0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:54.200
<v Speaker 1>going down the field a little more? You have our

0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 1>guy Mount Washington, Darnel Washington, how they're gonna use him

0:51:57.200 --> 0:51:57.800
<v Speaker 1>in Friarmouth.

0:51:57.800 --> 0:51:58.439
<v Speaker 2>Does that change?

0:51:58.440 --> 0:52:01.399
<v Speaker 1>You lost Kenny Gainwell at running back, but you did

0:52:01.400 --> 0:52:04.319
<v Speaker 1>bring in a bruiser and rico' daddle behind Jalen Warren.

0:52:04.360 --> 0:52:09.080
<v Speaker 1>There's enough talent here, especially adding pittman Man. I think

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:13.120
<v Speaker 1>a really solid too, But there's not a lot of explosiveness. Yeah,

0:52:13.160 --> 0:52:15.439
<v Speaker 1>and so this team's going to have to I think

0:52:15.520 --> 0:52:18.279
<v Speaker 1>work hard to score, and I think they need to

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:20.840
<v Speaker 1>get more out of DK Metcalf being explosive because he

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:21.200
<v Speaker 1>can be.

0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 3>That was my things go wrong if I think that's

0:52:23.520 --> 0:52:26.040
<v Speaker 3>a really great point that you brought up, because they

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 3>felt like like that posture you have after you get

0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 3>your laptop too long, Like that's what their offense felt like.

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 3>And I'm you're, yeah, this is an audio medium, but

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing it. They're getting on the YouTube, they're.

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:39.520
<v Speaker 1>Getting that little bump now on their neck that a

0:52:39.560 --> 0:52:40.680
<v Speaker 1>lot of kids are getting.

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the little yeah iPhone face or whatever it's called.

0:52:44.120 --> 0:52:46.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, we're getting off track here. I think

0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:48.399
<v Speaker 3>that this they also had to live in the world

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:50.799
<v Speaker 3>where they created some of those explosives that they did

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:52.880
<v Speaker 3>get on yards after the catch plays. This was an

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.480
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Rodgers world where he just wanted to get the

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:57.959
<v Speaker 3>ball out. He was still probably not feeling very good,

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:00.799
<v Speaker 3>you know, with his feet and his knee, and just

0:53:01.120 --> 0:53:03.960
<v Speaker 3>was needed to try to just get those quick outs.

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 3>Kenneth Gainwell, who's not there anymore, was the player who

0:53:07.000 --> 0:53:10.240
<v Speaker 3>really capitalized on that for them. I think Jalen Warren

0:53:10.280 --> 0:53:12.600
<v Speaker 3>is going to be still really effective in the passing game.

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.440
<v Speaker 3>So I'm curious because I do think Pittman becomes more

0:53:15.440 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 3>of that inside move player, like that power slot kind

0:53:18.200 --> 0:53:20.640
<v Speaker 3>of vibe where he's going. We can see how he

0:53:20.719 --> 0:53:23.000
<v Speaker 3>runs after the catch. He's a tough player. He can

0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 3>turn out some of those extra yards. So that's fine there,

0:53:25.880 --> 0:53:28.600
<v Speaker 3>But how are the otherwise are they going to create explosives?

0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 3>What are they going to do with maybe not three

0:53:32.320 --> 0:53:34.600
<v Speaker 3>receivers that they want to use, like the way that

0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:37.920
<v Speaker 3>Mike McCarthy typically has. Maybe a combination of the running

0:53:37.920 --> 0:53:40.360
<v Speaker 3>back and the tight end as your third receiver. Maybe

0:53:40.360 --> 0:53:43.359
<v Speaker 3>you play with some formation. We talked about the play action,

0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:45.799
<v Speaker 3>which should help their explosives if they actually do it.

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:48.440
<v Speaker 3>I want to see Dk Metcalf get down the field

0:53:48.480 --> 0:53:49.240
<v Speaker 3>like he wants.

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<v Speaker 1>To do, right, I think things go wrong if I

0:53:51.600 --> 0:53:53.800
<v Speaker 1>had a couple answers, but like, if they play offense

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:56.520
<v Speaker 1>the way they did a year, I don't think how

0:53:56.600 --> 0:54:00.719
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers played last year is sustainable. Maybe get you

0:54:00.760 --> 0:54:02.719
<v Speaker 1>to nine and eight if your defense is playing well.

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:05.360
<v Speaker 1>But he has to hold onto the ball a little longer.

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:07.560
<v Speaker 1>He has to be willing to go down the field.

0:54:07.640 --> 0:54:10.480
<v Speaker 1>It might have been personnel, scheme, whatever, but he has

0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:13.080
<v Speaker 1>to play different. I also think things go wrong if

0:54:13.120 --> 0:54:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the secondary, which to me is incredible variance. I think

0:54:16.080 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 1>this is a variants team. You mentioned Jalen Ramsey, like,

0:54:19.400 --> 0:54:22.000
<v Speaker 1>he's an up and down player. He's starting this year injured.

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:26.359
<v Speaker 1>Jaquan Brisker is a massive hitter, but he's an injury risk.

0:54:26.560 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Jameel Dean's career has been a little up and down.

0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Elliott's there and kind of revived himself. He's a

0:54:31.320 --> 0:54:33.880
<v Speaker 1>little up and down. I think Joey Porter Junior is good,

0:54:34.320 --> 0:54:38.320
<v Speaker 1>but he's kind of a like a he runs hot.

0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:40.200
<v Speaker 1>So this is very in city. It could be an

0:54:40.200 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 1>awesome secondary, Like things could go very wrong. Yeah, I

0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:45.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of see that with this team in general. I

0:54:45.440 --> 0:54:48.120
<v Speaker 1>think their ceiling is a little higher than people think

0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 1>sounds like you.

0:54:48.920 --> 0:54:52.520
<v Speaker 3>Agree yes and no, because when I thought about it

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:54.000
<v Speaker 3>at the end of the day, I have too many

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:56.839
<v Speaker 3>questions still about the quarterback and the style of ball

0:54:56.920 --> 0:54:59.560
<v Speaker 3>that the quarterback will play. This is like a data

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:02.440
<v Speaker 3>gathering team for me because I believe that the defense

0:55:02.520 --> 0:55:04.920
<v Speaker 3>is going to be so fun. I agree with that variant,

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:08.279
<v Speaker 3>but I think that Patrick Graham's defense almost manipulates or

0:55:08.480 --> 0:55:11.880
<v Speaker 3>uses variants to his advantage, helps him become like not

0:55:12.040 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 3>super easy to scout, like you mentioned at the week

0:55:14.040 --> 0:55:16.480
<v Speaker 3>to week game plans, those types of things. I was

0:55:16.480 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 3>talking to Quab one of our great producers on the show,

0:55:18.560 --> 0:55:20.240
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, we were talking about his favorite

0:55:20.239 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 3>teams of Steelers, and he was like, what do you

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 3>think the ceiling in the floor is? And I was like,

0:55:23.680 --> 0:55:25.239
<v Speaker 3>what do you think it is? And he goes either

0:55:25.360 --> 0:55:27.520
<v Speaker 3>ten and seven or seven and ten, and I was like,

0:55:27.640 --> 0:55:28.520
<v Speaker 3>that's the Steelers.

0:55:28.560 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Yeah, that's where I'm at. That's a little depressing.

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:33.760
<v Speaker 1>So you don't see a path to winning the division.

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:37.440
<v Speaker 1>I actually think there's enough talent and I have an

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:41.600
<v Speaker 1>underline to hear enough on the offensive line, Max Ihanachor

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:46.560
<v Speaker 1>and the guards and Zach Frazier. I think there's enough

0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:48.399
<v Speaker 1>talent on the offensive line and then the pass rush

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 1>and Cam Hayward still on the defensive line. There's good

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:53.440
<v Speaker 1>talented bodies behind them. I think there's enough talent for

0:55:53.520 --> 0:55:55.640
<v Speaker 1>them if things go really right and we're a little

0:55:55.680 --> 0:55:58.520
<v Speaker 1>wrong about Rogers to win this division and have a

0:55:58.600 --> 0:56:02.080
<v Speaker 1>genuinely like surprising, we're in the mix. I can't see

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 1>them like, I can't see them going to the super

0:56:05.040 --> 0:56:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Bowl or anything, but I could see them winning the division,

0:56:06.800 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 1>winning a playoff game or something. I think the ceiling

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:11.200
<v Speaker 1>is higher than people are giving them credit for. I

0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:14.040
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the variants between Rogers in the secondary. Yeah, I'm

0:56:14.080 --> 0:56:15.759
<v Speaker 1>with you on seven and ten. It is kind of

0:56:15.760 --> 0:56:18.759
<v Speaker 1>the floor for this team. That is it, except for

0:56:18.800 --> 0:56:22.440
<v Speaker 1>our division predictions. In the end, how do you sort

0:56:22.640 --> 0:56:25.800
<v Speaker 1>these four teams? I'll go first to give you a

0:56:25.840 --> 0:56:29.319
<v Speaker 1>little time, I will put the Steelers third. Still, ultimately

0:56:29.360 --> 0:56:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I think they land in the middle. I'm just giving

0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:34.960
<v Speaker 1>myself some room to see that it's possible.

0:56:34.960 --> 0:56:36.239
<v Speaker 3>But Eier takes right there.

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:38.240
<v Speaker 2>No, it just takes. It's how I feel.

0:56:38.960 --> 0:56:41.399
<v Speaker 1>But I still do put the Bengals above them as

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:42.239
<v Speaker 1>the second place team.

0:56:42.239 --> 0:56:44.080
<v Speaker 2>I do have the Ravens first, Browns last.

0:56:44.160 --> 0:56:45.879
<v Speaker 3>I have the Ravens first. I think if the all

0:56:45.920 --> 0:56:47.799
<v Speaker 3>goes well for the Ravens, that's a super Bowl team

0:56:47.880 --> 0:56:49.719
<v Speaker 3>or potentially to be a super Bowl team. I've got

0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:52.799
<v Speaker 3>the Bengals second. Again, such a high ceiling. This is

0:56:52.880 --> 0:56:58.200
<v Speaker 3>like variant city here through most of the AFC North Steelers, third, Browns, Fourth.

0:56:58.280 --> 0:57:00.880
<v Speaker 1>You already put three AFC West teams in the playoffs,

0:57:00.880 --> 0:57:02.960
<v Speaker 1>so are you putting two in here?

0:57:03.080 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Three? We'll have our final playoff predictions.

0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I get sweaty when you asked me to predict this.

0:57:09.920 --> 0:57:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Because yeah, if you went like three here, then you're

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 1>just not even possible mathematically.

0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:16.960
<v Speaker 3>And I just then I just starts.

0:57:17.080 --> 0:57:18.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what, I'll give you until the end of

0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:21.720
<v Speaker 1>the month, we will do our official playoff predictions.

0:57:21.760 --> 0:57:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Yea. Then, but we're lining up the time.

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm really looking forward to that.

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:29.919
<v Speaker 1>I know we have a great show coming up later

0:57:31.000 --> 0:57:33.400
<v Speaker 1>on Thursday, just updating you on all the news. That

0:57:33.440 --> 0:57:36.080
<v Speaker 1>will be myself and Jordan rodrieg I can't wait to

0:57:36.200 --> 0:57:38.520
<v Speaker 1>see you. Then, all the teams are practicing, training camp

0:57:39.200 --> 0:57:46.360
<v Speaker 1>is off and running time. Sometimes you start it and

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:51.960
<v Speaker 1>then you're like, I'm already done. We're through three divisions right.

0:57:52.240 --> 0:57:54.080
<v Speaker 1>We also might have a little land yap in your

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<v Speaker 1>feed later this week. Glad weekend. That'll be a little

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<v Speaker 1>spress