WEBVTT - S4 – 8: A Time to Live

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<v Speaker 1>Welcomed Unobscured, a production of I Heart Radio and Aaron Minky.

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<v Speaker 1>The road is steep and narrow. You're a passenger in

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<v Speaker 1>the car. Next to you are the people you love most,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of your lives are in danger. The car

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<v Speaker 1>is careening around the turns, and one slip and it

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<v Speaker 1>could all be over. And the worst problem is the

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<v Speaker 1>driver is asleep at the wheel. But there is hope.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how to drive, and so do other people

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<v Speaker 1>in the car. You try to wake the man at

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<v Speaker 1>the wheel and convince him to make the dangerous move

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<v Speaker 1>of trading places with someone else. But even awake, he's

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<v Speaker 1>hardly any better. He tightens his grip and refuses to

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<v Speaker 1>let go. With bloodshot eyes, the driver screams not to

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<v Speaker 1>touch him. Meanwhile, the car barrels forward toward destruction. It's

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<v Speaker 1>too dangerous to fight for the wheel. It's too dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>to do nothing. Both action and inaction seem to promise

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<v Speaker 1>the same carnage. What should you you? This is the

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<v Speaker 1>question that was asked in the Moscow Gazette on September

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<v Speaker 1>seventeenth of nineteen fifteen. The journalist who wrote the story

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<v Speaker 1>was a member of the Duma Russia's parliament. The passengers

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<v Speaker 1>in the car were his fellow Russians, and the mad

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<v Speaker 1>chauffeur at the wheel was the one who claimed divine

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<v Speaker 1>right to steer the nation forward through the perils of war,

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<v Speaker 1>Zar Nicholas himself, and who could blame one furious statesman

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<v Speaker 1>for seeing things this way? Supplies, reinforcements, and hospitals for

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<v Speaker 1>the army were planned so badly that trains filled with

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<v Speaker 1>dying men were parked on the tracks because there was

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere for them to unload their priceless cargo. What was

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<v Speaker 1>Russia's experience of the war in nineteen fift It was death, grief, blood,

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<v Speaker 1>and failure. Steel coffins slowly turning men into corpses. Was

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<v Speaker 1>not the legacy that Zar Nicholas imagined for the Romanov dynasty,

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<v Speaker 1>but more and more Russians were coming to see it

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<v Speaker 1>as his stamp on the nation's history, because it was

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<v Speaker 1>the nation's present. And who should be to blame if

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<v Speaker 1>not for the man in charge. And when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to anger at the Czar, we're not just talking about peasants.

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<v Speaker 1>The members of the Duma saw it, they felt it,

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<v Speaker 1>and published their articles damning Nicholas and so did Russia's

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<v Speaker 1>other aristocratic families. Their sons had also gone to war,

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<v Speaker 1>their children had also been killed, and they wanted answers.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the Tsar going to do about all this suffering?

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<v Speaker 1>But if the calls were for him to put someone

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<v Speaker 1>else at the wheel, Nicholas took the opposite course. He

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<v Speaker 1>thought that maybe the problem was that he had shirked

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<v Speaker 1>his duty and allowed his muscle bound cousin Nikolasha to

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<v Speaker 1>take the lead. The job had certainly not been done right,

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<v Speaker 1>so Nicholas decided to do it himself. He had already

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<v Speaker 1>been spending as much time as he could at Stavka,

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian military headquarters. The camp where battle plans were laid,

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<v Speaker 1>was established off the Moscow Warsaw Road, nestled between the

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<v Speaker 1>trunks of pine and birch trees and surrounded by ring

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<v Speaker 1>after ring of centuries. Nicholas found all of that invigorating

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<v Speaker 1>to him. It was a masculine place, a place for

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<v Speaker 1>a rugged, disciplined life, a place where every second counted

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<v Speaker 1>and every man was about his work. The urgency in

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<v Speaker 1>order reminded him of his fondest memories his younger years

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<v Speaker 1>in the cavalry, before he had taken up the responsibilities

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<v Speaker 1>of the czar, but in the summer of nineteen fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the responsibilities that he shouldered. The Czar's place

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<v Speaker 1>was with his troops. Nicholas believed it so strongly that

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<v Speaker 1>it was almost mystical. He even made up his mind

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<v Speaker 1>in the church. It was while he was standing in

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<v Speaker 1>the cathedral, with his eyes fixated on an image of Jesus,

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<v Speaker 1>that he felt a voice speak in his mind. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the reason his man had lost the war with Japan

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<v Speaker 1>ten years before was that he had stayed in the

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<v Speaker 1>palaces and left the work to others. He didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to make the same mistake twice in a time of war.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't right for the Tsar to hide in palaces

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<v Speaker 1>and float offshore in yachts. It was time for him

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<v Speaker 1>to take action. It was time for him to bear

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<v Speaker 1>the weight of the empire on his own shoulders. So,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what anyone else was shouting to the heavens,

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<v Speaker 1>Nicolas tightened his grip on the wheel. Nikolasha was out

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<v Speaker 1>and the Tzar was in. The move was dramatically, universally unpopular.

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<v Speaker 1>Even the rest of the Romanov family tried to argue

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<v Speaker 1>with Nicholas to make him reverse his decision and leave

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<v Speaker 1>the war to others. But finally Nicholas had found a spine.

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<v Speaker 1>When his ministers approached him at the end of August

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<v Speaker 1>begging him to reconsider, Nicholas sat and listened, sweating profusely

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<v Speaker 1>and clutching an icon to support his spiritual conviction that

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<v Speaker 1>he was meant to lead, an icon he had received

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<v Speaker 1>from his spiritual adviser and friend, Grigory Rasputin. His conviction

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<v Speaker 1>was unshaken, and in the coming days it would become

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<v Speaker 1>clear that the Czar wasn't the only one seizing his

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<v Speaker 1>royal prerogative. As the wheels of war continue to turn,

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<v Speaker 1>there was someone else who didn't fear putting their hands

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<v Speaker 1>on the controls. The Empress herself, Alexandra, this is unobscured.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Aaron Manky. Felix Yusupov was an aristocrat, and a

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<v Speaker 1>wealthy one too. His family was among Russia's richest, and

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<v Speaker 1>while they weren't the most powerful, they were like many

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<v Speaker 1>other oligarchs. They had their fingers in every pie, and

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<v Speaker 1>Felix had his finger on the pulse too. When Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>took over the command of Russia's armies. Felix wrote down

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<v Speaker 1>just how worried his elite friends had become. The news

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<v Speaker 1>on the whole was badly received. He wrote, everyone knew

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<v Speaker 1>that pressure had been brought to bear on the Tsar

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<v Speaker 1>by Rasputin. In fact, Felix wrote that the Tsar was

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<v Speaker 1>only going to the front because Rasputin told him to.

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas had caved because the Holy Man had played on

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<v Speaker 1>the religious feelings that Nicholas had about his god given

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<v Speaker 1>role as the ruler of his people. But if this

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<v Speaker 1>was some kind of spiritual con game, why was Rasputin

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<v Speaker 1>doing it? Felix thought he knew. He wrote that it

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<v Speaker 1>was in Rasputin's interest to remove the Tsar as far

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<v Speaker 1>from Petrograd as possible, because he said, when Rasputin had

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<v Speaker 1>pushed the Czar out of the palace, that left Alexandra

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<v Speaker 1>in his power. That was what Felix Usupov and the

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<v Speaker 1>other wealthy Russians believe and what they feared. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality, though, was far more complicated. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>there was the fact that Alexandra and Rasputin too, We're

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<v Speaker 1>actually against Nicolas spending time in Stovka. Maybe no one

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<v Speaker 1>else saw it at the time, but it was clear

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<v Speaker 1>in the Empress's writings over and over. In her letters

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<v Speaker 1>in the early months of that year, Alexandra was urging

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas to come back home. She wanted her husband to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the capital with her, and she told him

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<v Speaker 1>that Resputant thought the same. In fact, the reason Alexandra

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<v Speaker 1>was worried was the same reason that the Duma and

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<v Speaker 1>the aristocrats like Felix Yusupov worried about Rasputin. It was

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<v Speaker 1>all about how Nicholas would be influenced. In June of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifteen, during one of the Tsar's many visits to Stavka,

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra wrote to Nicholas a letter showing her hand. She

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<v Speaker 1>and Rasputin were worried, she said, because when Nicholas was

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<v Speaker 1>far from the palace and far from her, there were

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<v Speaker 1>people who could make him do things that he shouldn't do.

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<v Speaker 1>When he was at Strafka, there were untold numbers of

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<v Speaker 1>advisers and generals and liars to push the czar around.

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<v Speaker 1>It would be healthier, Alexandra wrote, if Nicholas would take

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<v Speaker 1>care of things quickly and just come home. When Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>made the opposite choice a few months later and took command.

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<v Speaker 1>He made his place at Stavka all the more prominent.

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra's letters only became more urgent and came more often.

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<v Speaker 1>If the Czar wasn't going to be at her side.

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra was determined that she would still have his ear.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's historian Helen Rappaport to tell us more. The wartime

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<v Speaker 1>correspondence is predominantly her long haranguing letters to Nicholas, telling

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<v Speaker 1>him to do this, that and the other, and complaining

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<v Speaker 1>about the girls being hormonal and argumentative, and um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>telling him to sack this minister and higher that minister.

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<v Speaker 1>The war yor letters are very revealing of her controlling

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<v Speaker 1>influence over him. But if Alexandra had a controlling influence

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<v Speaker 1>over Nicholas, it's just as likely that Nicholas had his

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<v Speaker 1>own influence over Alexandra. When they were together, Nicholas could

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<v Speaker 1>bear the duties of state, the two could talk, and

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra was free to rest and retreat while Nicholas kept

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<v Speaker 1>up an endless series of meetings with ministers and bureaucrats.

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<v Speaker 1>But now with the Czar far away, pressing matters still

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<v Speaker 1>had to be dealt with. And if it was the

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<v Speaker 1>duty of the emperor to get his hands dirty, how

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<v Speaker 1>much different could it be for the empress. Alexandra felt

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<v Speaker 1>that she had to act as well, and act she did.

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<v Speaker 1>To begin with, Alexandra didn't miss how much care was

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<v Speaker 1>needed for the wounded men. She immediately threw herself, despite

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of physical problems by then the scietic who

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<v Speaker 1>was awful, she threw herself into war work. She organized

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<v Speaker 1>hospital trains, She organized ladies at the court to to

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<v Speaker 1>to set up collecting dressings and you know, bringing to

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<v Speaker 1>bringing together sewing garments so the wounded. She set up

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<v Speaker 1>various hospitals in St. Pete but Wells and Petrograd in

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<v Speaker 1>the war, in the capital city and out at saskos At.

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra did far more during the war than people are

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<v Speaker 1>aware of, many because it's not really being written about.

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<v Speaker 1>But if it's true that Alexandra's work in the hospitals

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<v Speaker 1>was overlooked, there was another side of her life that

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<v Speaker 1>drew far too many eyes because she wasn't just organizing

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<v Speaker 1>medical care. Alexandra was taking the reins of the states herself.

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<v Speaker 1>It started at the very top, while Nicholas was away

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<v Speaker 1>at the front, Alexandra met with the Prime Minister almost

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<v Speaker 1>every day. It helped that he was on Alexandra's side,

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<v Speaker 1>the side of absolute monarchy. In fact, when Nicholas left

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<v Speaker 1>for the front, the Prime Minister even suggested that the

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<v Speaker 1>Duma should be dissolved. What Russia needed, he believed, was

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<v Speaker 1>to be united behind the Romanovs. Alexandra could only agree,

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<v Speaker 1>and when things on the front lines of the war

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<v Speaker 1>went south, it only strengthened her resolve. When members of

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<v Speaker 1>the Duma gathered together to meet with the Prime Minister

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<v Speaker 1>and begged him to send more supplies and more ammunition

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<v Speaker 1>to the army, Alexandra wrote to Nicholas, these elected representatives

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<v Speaker 1>were meddling with things above their pay grade. The war

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<v Speaker 1>was none of their business, she said. They were merely

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<v Speaker 1>fostering discontent. To her, it didn't matter that they had

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<v Speaker 1>been the legislature of the empire. That's not what God wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>No God wanted an autocrat to rule. If the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister listened to other voices, Alexandra was sure that it

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<v Speaker 1>would only bring the Empire more trouble. So she beat

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<v Speaker 1>back political advisors and advice from the disbanded Duma more

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<v Speaker 1>and more she took matters into her own hands. Where

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<v Speaker 1>supplies needed at the front were more nurses needed at home,

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra would decide it for herself, and she revealed to

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<v Speaker 1>Nicholas just how much she wanted that power and just

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<v Speaker 1>how little she could see what was coming. When she wrote, Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>thank God, is not a constitutional country. It shouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>a surprise that Rasputant sent his own letter to Stavka.

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<v Speaker 1>He said that the Virgin Mary had appeared to him

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<v Speaker 1>in a vision. She told him to travel from the

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<v Speaker 1>capital and visit the military headquarters. There he could help

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<v Speaker 1>plan the fight. He had ideas about the war, He

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<v Speaker 1>had ideas about the economy. God would speak through him

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<v Speaker 1>and deliver Russia from the tide of violence. He got

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<v Speaker 1>a letter back from the Tsar's cousin. The man wrote

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<v Speaker 1>Respute in a similar note. He said that Mary had

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<v Speaker 1>appeared to him as well. She told him that if

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<v Speaker 1>Grigory Rasputin ever came to Stavka, Nikolasha would hang him

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<v Speaker 1>from the nearest lamp post. It was in the months

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<v Speaker 1>before Nicholas would relieve him of command. Needless to say,

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<v Speaker 1>Resputant stay at home by Alexandra's side, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of how much things had changed. In the beginning,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Nikolasha and the sisters Stana and Melitza who

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<v Speaker 1>had introduced Respute into the Tsar's but by now the

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<v Speaker 1>tzar's cousin saw a real dark side to Gregory's influence

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<v Speaker 1>over the imperial couple. For years, even decades, they had

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<v Speaker 1>been friends, Nikolasha, Stana, Melitsa. They were the ones who

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<v Speaker 1>had helped her the most when she was a rush

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<v Speaker 1>young empress first stepping into her new home. But these

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<v Speaker 1>were not those years, and as Nikolasha made it clear

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<v Speaker 1>just how much contempt he had for Grigory Resputin, a

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<v Speaker 1>man the Empress trusted most, she started to suspect that

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<v Speaker 1>even her closest companions were plotting against her family. With

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<v Speaker 1>Nikolasha now threatening Resputant's life outright, Alexandra feared betrayal. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he was even scheming to take the throne. She had

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<v Speaker 1>all the evidence necessary to have one of those bulletin

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<v Speaker 1>boards with photos and pins and red string. It seemed

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<v Speaker 1>that in the months before Nicholas took control of the army,

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<v Speaker 1>Nikolasha had been meeting with the government ministers without the Czar.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, Alexander learned that the ministers had been taking

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<v Speaker 1>reports to Nikolasha and not to her husband, even when

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<v Speaker 1>the matters didn't concern the fighting on the front lines.

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<v Speaker 1>It might not seem so strange to us now looking

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<v Speaker 1>back on how important Nikolasha was as the man directing

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<v Speaker 1>the war efforts, but to Alexandra it was a sign

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<v Speaker 1>that Nikolasha was making in a play to sideline Nicholas.

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<v Speaker 1>As much as she hated to have her husband leave

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<v Speaker 1>her side and go to the front, she was convinced

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<v Speaker 1>that Nikolasha needed to be crushed. I have absolutely no

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<v Speaker 1>faith in Nikolasha, she wrote to the Czar. Having gone

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<v Speaker 1>against a man of God, his work can't be blessed.

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<v Speaker 1>It didn't help that Nikolasha was in fact deeply loyal

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<v Speaker 1>to Nicholas and to Russia. He was against Rasputin, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was no secret that he wasn't the only one.

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<v Speaker 1>So if Nikolasha had to go, what about the others.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's more from Helen Rappaport. Nicholas was a long way

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<v Speaker 1>way at Army h Q, and she was always very

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<v Speaker 1>opinionated about what kind of ministers Nicholas should appoint. Generally,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of toadies and yesmen were appointed during Nicholas's reign,

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<v Speaker 1>who were often incompetent and weak and ineffectual. But Alexandra

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<v Speaker 1>was the one who wanted to have a retinue of

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<v Speaker 1>yes men who did as she felt, you know, things

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<v Speaker 1>should be done. And she constantly harangued Nicholas, pressing him

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<v Speaker 1>into sucking this minister. I don't like that, minister. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you should get rid of so and so. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was normally because they wouldn't the line, the line they

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't tow was the one set by Alexandra, of course.

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<v Speaker 1>And when it came to qualifications, Alexandra had at least

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<v Speaker 1>one easy test. What did they think of Rasputin? Were

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<v Speaker 1>they on the side of Nikolasha and so many others

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<v Speaker 1>an enemy of the friend God put by their side,

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<v Speaker 1>then they couldn't possibly be suitable candidates to govern the empire.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's job was safe, not even the men who

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<v Speaker 1>Grigory and Alexandra selected to lead the Russian government. One

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<v Speaker 1>wrong move and they went from inside track to out

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<v Speaker 1>in the cold. Here's Douglas Smith to tell us more

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<v Speaker 1>this phenomenon that becomes known as ministerial leap frog, where basically,

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<v Speaker 1>like one prime minister is being sacked, a new one

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<v Speaker 1>hired every other month. There's a there's a new head

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<v Speaker 1>of the police, there's changes at the upper echelons of

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<v Speaker 1>the military and other um posts in the government, Minister

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<v Speaker 1>of Interior and what have you. By those latter years,

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<v Speaker 1>Risputant is exercising more influence on ministerial appointments, has more

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<v Speaker 1>opinion about these things, and Alexandra listens to him and

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<v Speaker 1>tries to lean on Nicholas to make some of these changes.

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<v Speaker 1>Bizarre was still the one with the final word, but

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<v Speaker 1>more and more Nicholas made appointments and fired officials from

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<v Speaker 1>a distance on Alexandra's advice, and the whole time she

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<v Speaker 1>was looking out for her friend, Rasputants enemies are like

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<v Speaker 1>spiders around us. Alexandra wrote to Nicholas, Russia will not

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<v Speaker 1>be blessed if we let a man of God be persecuted.

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<v Speaker 1>She demanded that intrigues against their spiritual advisor be forbidden.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't even want government officials talking about him. Anyone

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<v Speaker 1>who disobeyed should be pushed out of power. To Alexandra,

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<v Speaker 1>with the war needed was government officials who would support

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<v Speaker 1>the guidance that the Czar was receiving from God and

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<v Speaker 1>from Gregory. And what better way to find the right

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<v Speaker 1>help than to consult Resputin himself. After all, Alexander had

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<v Speaker 1>spent her years as empress avoiding the mess of elite

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<v Speaker 1>Russian life. Retreats after retreat to yachts, hunting, lodges, and

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<v Speaker 1>her bed had left her with very little clue of

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<v Speaker 1>where to turn when she actually needed help. She couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even rely on Stanta and Melitza, so who was left

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<v Speaker 1>well just one man. Suddenly, the thing that resputants critics

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<v Speaker 1>had feared for so long was coming true. For years,

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<v Speaker 1>the rumors that Resputant was pulling the strings had been

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<v Speaker 1>merely that, just rumors. His advice had been mostly encouragement

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<v Speaker 1>for a troubled royal family. But now a new opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>was presenting itself. With Nicholas away and Alexandra taking control,

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<v Speaker 1>Grigory could finally become a real force behind the throne.

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<v Speaker 1>And Grigory had his own reasons for wanting to grip

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<v Speaker 1>the wheel. After all, the scar that still crossed his

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<v Speaker 1>stomach was a testament to just how much his enemies

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<v Speaker 1>wanted him dead. Here's Douglas Smith to remind us what's

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<v Speaker 1>important to remember is that part of the reason Resputant

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<v Speaker 1>is doing this is he is very much fearful for

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<v Speaker 1>his life. There have been several attempted assassinations of resputing

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<v Speaker 1>and he is terrified that the people in charged with

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<v Speaker 1>keeping him safe are in fact the ones that want

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<v Speaker 1>him dead. And so he is very much leaning on

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra to make sure that the people they hired to be,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, the head of the police or the Ministry

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<v Speaker 1>of the Interior, are in fact allies of his and

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<v Speaker 1>not enemies just waiting to do him in. As we've seen,

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<v Speaker 1>if Grigory was driven by his personal paranoia, so was Alexandra.

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<v Speaker 1>They were relying on each other to see their way

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<v Speaker 1>through the empire's dark days. Gregory relied on his empress,

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra relied on Gregory's insight from God. But there was

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<v Speaker 1>little insight to be found, and in the coming days,

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<v Speaker 1>as more power came into their hands, they would come

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<v Speaker 1>to see clearly that Grigory Rasputin was right about one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>At least, he had enemies on every side, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were coming for his life, someone you can do business with.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they called grigory. It was obvious to everyone

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<v Speaker 1>how things at the top were starting to change. Restputants

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<v Speaker 1>critics were being thrown from the moving car. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you were a political schemer and you wanted to get in, well,

0:19:38.560 --> 0:19:41.000
<v Speaker 1>now there was an empty seat just waiting for you.

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<v Speaker 1>The czar may have always been out of reach, but

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<v Speaker 1>what about the elevated Siberian peasant with a penchant for drink,

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<v Speaker 1>expensive clothes and nights out on the town. If other

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<v Speaker 1>officials and ministers had tried to save Russia by tearing

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<v Speaker 1>Rasputant down, a very different approach was now on offer. Flattery, gifts,

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<v Speaker 1>and gossip. They were the stock in trade for many

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<v Speaker 1>who had always been held on the outside. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>wheelers and dealers around Petrograd saw doors opening for them

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:14.000
<v Speaker 1>as well. The opportunist with the Czarina's ear, well, that

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<v Speaker 1>looked like an opportunity. But for men like the ones

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<v Speaker 1>who stepped into the picture, Resputant was only valuable when

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<v Speaker 1>he was still their route to the palace. Once they

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<v Speaker 1>found themselves in the government's inner circle. Though, grigory respute

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<v Speaker 1>and went from being an opportunity to a liability because

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<v Speaker 1>anyone who wanted to use resputant to get to Alexandra

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<v Speaker 1>soon found they would have to dispose of him if

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<v Speaker 1>they wanted to get their own way. So the next

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<v Speaker 1>time a call came threatening Grigory's life, it came from

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<v Speaker 1>inside the house that he built. Here's Douglas Smith to

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<v Speaker 1>give us the fascinating details. There are several plots and

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<v Speaker 1>assassinations that were in the gainst for spute in his lifetime,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the more bizarre was put together by

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<v Speaker 1>the so called troy Ka the Threesome, the head of

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<v Speaker 1>which was the Minister of Interior, man named Stoff, who

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<v Speaker 1>in fact got the job as minister claiming to be

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<v Speaker 1>a defender of respute and an ally of Resputing the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that he was even chosen at all, though, shows

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<v Speaker 1>just how naive Gregory and Alexandra were, because while it

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<v Speaker 1>was true that their new Minister of Interior was a

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<v Speaker 1>well known and well connected man, the thing he was

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<v Speaker 1>mostly known for was corruption. Yes, he had been a

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<v Speaker 1>member of Eliador's right wing terrorist group, but he had

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<v Speaker 1>also been a provincial governor. He had been elected to

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<v Speaker 1>the Duma, but he didn't make friends there. The others

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<v Speaker 1>called him a hooligan, a criminal, and a scoundrel. His

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<v Speaker 1>patriotism was flamboyant and his hatred for Germans was real,

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<v Speaker 1>but anyone who actually knew him could see that he

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<v Speaker 1>was really just out for himself. When he was first appointed,

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<v Speaker 1>Grigory was overjoyed resput and thought that finally he had

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<v Speaker 1>a man in the government who would attend directly to him.

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<v Speaker 1>After all, the new minister had made every promise that

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<v Speaker 1>Gregory and Alexandra wanted to hear. He would crack down

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<v Speaker 1>the press, he would help get Rasputants allies into other

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<v Speaker 1>high positions. He would even supply Gregory with a regular

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<v Speaker 1>allowance of money from the government coffers. When Gregory returned

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<v Speaker 1>to Petrograd from a trip to Siberia in the fall

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen fifteen, he was buzzing with excitements. Things were

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<v Speaker 1>finally going his way, but it was all too good

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<v Speaker 1>to be true. Once he was appointed to serve in

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<v Speaker 1>the Tsar's government as an ally to Rasputin, the new

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<v Speaker 1>minister's true colors were on display. He very quickly then

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<v Speaker 1>shifts to the other side, to the competing camp, and

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<v Speaker 1>starts trying to dream up ways to to do in Resputin.

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<v Speaker 1>He he plots to have him put on a train

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<v Speaker 1>and sent off outside the capital, and then someone was

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<v Speaker 1>going to come and pick him up and throw him

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<v Speaker 1>off a speeding train. Um. There's attempts to put together

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<v Speaker 1>a bottle of poison wine that he will drink and die. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then together with a couple of others, he comes

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<v Speaker 1>up with trying to lure Iliador, who by this time

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<v Speaker 1>has fled Russia for Norway, to pay iliad Or sixty

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<v Speaker 1>thousand rubles if iliad Or could get some of his

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<v Speaker 1>allies who are still in Russia to shoot and kill Resputing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this plotting gets very complex. It's like a bizarre

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<v Speaker 1>sort of crime story, but it all comes to light

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<v Speaker 1>before it can happen. The moves that Nicholas was making

0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:31.520
<v Speaker 1>at Alexandra and Rasputin's advice, of course, were turning his

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<v Speaker 1>administration into a kind of wild West, the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>place where, even once he was caught to the new

0:23:36.920 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>minister thought he could simply talk his way out of consequences.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus Stoff claims that no, no, no, I was never

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<v Speaker 1>trying to kill Resputin. I was trying to out a

0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:48.960
<v Speaker 1>plot to kill Resputin, but in the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing blows up in his face. But it offers

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<v Speaker 1>further proof to Alexander and Resputing that even the people

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<v Speaker 1>that they hire in place and positions of power to

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<v Speaker 1>keep resputing if are in fact snakes in the grass

0:24:02.960 --> 0:24:06.240
<v Speaker 1>who won him killed. It was yet one more chance

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 1>for the Romanovs to realize they were off track. But

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:11.680
<v Speaker 1>they had never been a royal couple to admit mistakes.

0:24:12.200 --> 0:24:15.359
<v Speaker 1>With every misstep that risked their lives and that risked

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<v Speaker 1>the empire, they only became more convinced the only people

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<v Speaker 1>they could trust were themselves and the Siberian mystic, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>and like Nicholas and Alexandra, Rasputin was undaunted. Rather than

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<v Speaker 1>seeing just how bad he was at organizing an imperial government,

0:24:32.119 --> 0:24:36.840
<v Speaker 1>Rasputin was actually emboldened. With every new minister appointed, he

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<v Speaker 1>felt more and more powerful, He felt more and more

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<v Speaker 1>in charge, and that feeling gratified him more than anything

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<v Speaker 1>he had felt in a very long time. As nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen began, Grigory Rasputin was back in Petrograd and he

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<v Speaker 1>had come to flex his muscles. Let's remember that Alexandra

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<v Speaker 1>was German. No one had really forgotten that either, but

0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:06.679
<v Speaker 1>they were beginning to remember it in a new and

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<v Speaker 1>all too significant way. After all, Russian soldiers were marching

0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:14.360
<v Speaker 1>by the millions to fight Germans, and the German soldiers

0:25:14.400 --> 0:25:17.480
<v Speaker 1>of the Austro Hungarian Empire were sending back those Russian

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<v Speaker 1>boys in body bags. In an empire racked by fear, conspiracy,

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<v Speaker 1>and the lust for blood, the dots were all too

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<v Speaker 1>easy to connect, and all the more so with the

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<v Speaker 1>next move they made to set up a government they

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<v Speaker 1>could keep on a tight leash. Because the man that

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<v Speaker 1>Alexandra recommended to Nicholas as the next prime minister was

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<v Speaker 1>named Boris Sturmer. If that sounds like a German name

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<v Speaker 1>to you, you're not alone. It seems like most of

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<v Speaker 1>the Russian Empire felt the same too, even Nicholas for

0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:48.000
<v Speaker 1>the czar. Of course, it could just have been that

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Boris wasn't the brightest bulb in the lamp, so to speak.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also, like other misfires, a bit showy in

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<v Speaker 1>society and a bit slow on anything that really mattered,

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<v Speaker 1>a bureaucrat who was too old and too dull for

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<v Speaker 1>even the other bureaucrats around the czar. They asked him

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<v Speaker 1>to choose someone else, but none of the misgivings would

0:26:07.800 --> 0:26:11.440
<v Speaker 1>compare to the letter Nicholas gott from Alexandra. I hope

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<v Speaker 1>you will appoint him, she wrote, he has suited best

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<v Speaker 1>of all for the present time. When Rasputin's own letter followed,

0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Nicholas allowed himself to be swayed. In January of nineteen sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Boris Sturmer became the new Prime Minister of the Russian Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>On his very first day at the new post, he

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<v Speaker 1>made the journey to Grigory's rooms. Boris pledged his loyalty.

0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Rasputin gave his blessing. But if that set nerves at

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<v Speaker 1>ease in the palace, it set off alarms throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the Empire. Fears and conspiracies swelled into the

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<v Speaker 1>streets like an overflowing sewer, And among the worst of

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:51.400
<v Speaker 1>it was the way that anti German fears were staining everything.

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<v Speaker 1>In past generations, German and Slavic neighbors had settled down

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<v Speaker 1>under the same imperial roof. There had been some growing

0:26:59.520 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>sense of ethnic strife over the last few decades, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but for a long time Russian anger and fear had

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<v Speaker 1>been turned not against the Germans but against the Ottoman Empire.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the dogs of war were finally loosed against

0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Russia's European neighbors, there was a united effort to turn

0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>all of that fury against new targets. Here's Dr Joshua

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<v Speaker 1>Sanborn to explain. The difficulty is that Nicholas himself, um,

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<v Speaker 1>starting in nineteen fourteen become begins to play a much

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<v Speaker 1>larger role in developing ethno politics, to encouraging the idea

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>that you should mobilize around your ethnicity and so um.

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>He tries to do some of that in the midst

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<v Speaker 1>of the war as well. So and this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is the toxic combination that explodes over the course of

0:27:40.680 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>the war. And the thing was the shrapnel from that

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 1>explosion was going to lodge in the Czar's own house.

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.680
<v Speaker 1>It was almost like he forgot where his wife had

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.320
<v Speaker 1>come from, but no one else did. And if the

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<v Speaker 1>earliest parts of the war had allowed them to overlook

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.360
<v Speaker 1>that fact, things were piling up that brought it back

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 1>to center stage. The recent failures on the battlefield, for example,

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:05.560
<v Speaker 1>could they be more incompetent? What about Alexandra's new energy

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.679
<v Speaker 1>for controlling the government, and the appointment of men like

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Boris Sturmer across the Empire, and especially in the offices

0:28:12.720 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 1>of the disbanded Duma. People were beginning to ask, were

0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:20.719
<v Speaker 1>the failures of the Russian government stupidity or treason? And

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe Alexandra was secretly more wedded to the land of

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:28.760
<v Speaker 1>her birth than to her new homeland. Those fears were unfounded,

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.640
<v Speaker 1>of course, but a lack of evidence had never stopped

0:28:31.640 --> 0:28:35.480
<v Speaker 1>people from speculating wildly about Alexandra. That had been the

0:28:35.560 --> 0:28:38.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff of popular conversations for years. In fact, it was

0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:42.520
<v Speaker 1>that long runway of salacious gossip about what was happening

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:45.479
<v Speaker 1>in the palace that let the most recent, most vicious

0:28:45.560 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>rumors take flight. The Czarina's most fervent critics were now

0:28:49.320 --> 0:28:52.040
<v Speaker 1>wondering if every scandal going all the way back to

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>monsenor Philippe and the missteps that Alexandra had made from

0:28:55.400 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>the very beginning of her reign, we're all just one

0:28:58.160 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>long game to undermine the romanof dynasty. But if there

0:29:02.240 --> 0:29:05.640
<v Speaker 1>was a German plot to sabotage Russia, they would certainly

0:29:05.680 --> 0:29:08.200
<v Speaker 1>have to look much further back than the day Alexandra

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:11.080
<v Speaker 1>and Nicholas first felt a spark at the family wedding.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's Dr Joshua Sanborn to explain much of the Romanov

0:29:15.560 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>family was was German. Virtually all of the stars over

0:29:18.720 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the course the nineteenth century had chosen brides from the

0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>German principalities and then from Germany itself. So many of

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>them had German mothers, and this has been going back

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.480
<v Speaker 1>for again for generations, and this was starting to become

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<v Speaker 1>a problem for them. Right Alexander would would eventually be

0:29:32.360 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of be criticized for being pro German because she

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<v Speaker 1>had this German background to her critics. It was bad

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:41.360
<v Speaker 1>enough when the Empress was shuffling the deck of government agencies,

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>the army and the police. But things really came to

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<v Speaker 1>a head in nineteen sixteen when something even closer to

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Russian hearts came under Restputant's hand, the leadership of the

0:29:51.160 --> 0:29:55.880
<v Speaker 1>Russian Church. Here's more from Douglas Smith. Spudents almost starts

0:29:55.960 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>looking around for allies defenders and wants to have them.

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<v Speaker 1>It in positions of power within the Russian Orthodox Church too,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will guard him from his enemies, and one

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:10.760
<v Speaker 1>of those is Varnava, who was also born a peasant

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>like him, had no real education, but was a powerful preacher,

0:30:15.200 --> 0:30:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and then sort of makes his way slowly up the

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:22.280
<v Speaker 1>church and Resputant decides that he wants Varnava to be

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<v Speaker 1>appointed bishop, but the bishops are strongly against it because

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.560
<v Speaker 1>they don't think he's worthy of the title in the position.

0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 1>But the one who can ultimately push this through is

0:30:32.920 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the Emperor, and resput and you know, in vegles his

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:41.640
<v Speaker 1>way in with Alexandra Nicholas and gets Nicholas against the

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<v Speaker 1>wishes of the body known as the Holy Synod, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a sort of the ruling body of the church,

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<v Speaker 1>to go ahead and make Varnava a bishop, which he

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<v Speaker 1>later becomes. And again this this introduces this great rift

0:30:56.520 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>and distrust between the official church and nick list, which

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 1>further undermines Nicholas and his power and authority. Amidst the

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>turmoil of war, that choice erupted into its own scandal

0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:12.520
<v Speaker 1>when the czar's handpicked bishop began feuding with the other

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>leaders in the church. Because in that squabbling, the bishop

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.600
<v Speaker 1>visited Alexandra, he knew where to go when he needed

0:31:18.600 --> 0:31:21.200
<v Speaker 1>a personal favor. He asked her to lean on the

0:31:21.240 --> 0:31:25.000
<v Speaker 1>Tsar and replace the chief procurator of the church. So

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>she did. But like the other let's call them personal

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:32.240
<v Speaker 1>choices that Alexander was making, this one was a real blunder.

0:31:32.320 --> 0:31:36.160
<v Speaker 1>The man Alexandra chose was another government bureaucrats with no

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>experience in the church. And then when she then started

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>reassigning the bishops from city to city to bring allies

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>of Rasputant to the post in Petrograd, the outrage was

0:31:46.600 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>too much for pious Russians to take. Nicholas was the

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>one who finally demanded the transfers, but the blame was

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>placed squarely on Alexandra and Rasputin to the faithful priests

0:31:56.920 --> 0:31:59.920
<v Speaker 1>and monks of the Russian Church. This shredded the fabric

0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 1>of Orthodox Christian faith. Yes, Nicholas was believed to be

0:32:03.400 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 1>the divine autocrats, but by allowing a man like Rasputant

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 1>to influence his decisions, he was now showing himself to

0:32:10.080 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 1>be unworthy of that office. Somehow a serpent had slithered

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>in and taken the crown. The wealthy elites across Russia

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>were equally aflame with anger. Princess Zinaida Yusupov wrote to

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.440
<v Speaker 1>her son Felix that she was shocked by what was

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 1>happening in the Czar's palace. She wished that she could

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>leave Russia and never return. Gregory is back yet again,

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:35.400
<v Speaker 1>she wrote, and I disdain everyone who tolerates this and

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>remains silent. She spoke for a growing number of the

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:42.960
<v Speaker 1>aristocrats who saw the empire crumbling around them. They started

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>to call their governments the reign of Rasputin. It was

0:32:45.920 --> 0:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>Grigory's world and they were all just living in it.

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>The pressure was growing for someone in their circles to

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<v Speaker 1>do something. The fact that Boris Sturmer was pushed out

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.760
<v Speaker 1>of his office after only a few months did almost

0:32:58.800 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 1>nothing to quell their fears. Putting out the spark that

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:04.720
<v Speaker 1>started the wildfires didn't save the forest, and in the

0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 1>flickering light of those flames, every little thing that Resputant

0:33:08.120 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and Alexandra had done over the past decade was being

0:33:11.160 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 1>seen in a new light of suspicion. The very fact

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 1>that Rasputin had counseled the Czar against war came back

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 1>to bite him. He had begged Nicholas not to send

0:33:20.240 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Russian men like his son to the battle front. Now

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 1>so many of those boys were dead, caught up in

0:33:26.360 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>their search for a German conspiracy. The Russian public saw

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 1>those doubting messages as a sign that Rasputin wasn't committed

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:37.040
<v Speaker 1>to the fight. His council had undermined the army. They thought,

0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe it was even the reason that all those battles

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>had been lost. His whispers in Alexandra's ear had led

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>to the government being thrown topsy turvy. And now this

0:33:46.760 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>wandering mystic who wasn't even a priest or a monk,

0:33:49.920 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>believed that he was the man to decide who should

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.320
<v Speaker 1>lead God's holy Church in the heart of Russia. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you can see how easy it was to question

0:33:57.680 --> 0:34:00.200
<v Speaker 1>all of this. Could it be that there was a

0:34:00.240 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>secret plot laid by German agents to strangle the life

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>out of Russia using a Siberian hand two aristocrats like

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:11.840
<v Speaker 1>Felix Yusupov Grigory was the spider at the center of

0:34:11.880 --> 0:34:15.200
<v Speaker 1>a slowly constructed web, and the Czar was simply too

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.560
<v Speaker 1>blind to see that the Siberian peasant wasn't there to

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>save Russia, he was there to tear it all down.

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<v Speaker 1>His daily life was quite simple. In the morning, he

0:34:27.880 --> 0:34:31.759
<v Speaker 1>would find himself in church, then It was breakfast, nothing elaborate,

0:34:31.840 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>just something simple and nourishing. His home was five modest rooms.

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 1>His furniture was sparse, a table and a few chairs,

0:34:40.280 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>a cheap writing desk. Yes, he had a staff, people

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.280
<v Speaker 1>to cook and clean and care for his two daughters,

0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Maria and Varvara. Sometimes his niece came to live with

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:52.760
<v Speaker 1>him in Petrograd too. It seems that even in nineteen sixteen,

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<v Speaker 1>at the height of his power, there was still something

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:58.480
<v Speaker 1>in Grigory Resputant that wanted to do things the right way,

0:34:58.520 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 1>to live simply to holy man. That would have surprised

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 1>the people who knew about his business. It would have

0:35:05.680 --> 0:35:08.800
<v Speaker 1>surprised the people paying him huge bribes to push forward

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.600
<v Speaker 1>their agenda behind the scenes. It would get a laugh

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 1>from the people who saw him out on the town

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:18.040
<v Speaker 1>night after night, drinking Madeira wine and dancing with chorus girls.

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:21.800
<v Speaker 1>But the truth is often complicated, and Grigory Resputant remained

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:25.839
<v Speaker 1>a man with two faces. At home, Maria knew her

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 1>father as the gentle and loving man who ate dry

0:35:28.560 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 1>pretzels with his tea, the man who met with hundreds

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>of followers every single day, despite his fears of being

0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>killed the man who took his huge bribes. Yes, but

0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:40.600
<v Speaker 1>then gave them to the poor. That's one thing to

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>be said for him. At least, if one of the

0:35:42.600 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 1>people standing down his block came looking for money, they

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:49.719
<v Speaker 1>were actually going to get it. And what about the Empress. Yes,

0:35:49.800 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 1>each month she paid his rent one and twenty one roubles,

0:35:53.520 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>and yes she would hear his grand proclamations about how

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.360
<v Speaker 1>the government should be run, but much to her annoyance,

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.719
<v Speaker 1>even during the war years, he would come to the

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>palace with his pockets stuffed with notes and request for

0:36:04.400 --> 0:36:07.240
<v Speaker 1>the Czar. He felt duty bound to be an advocate

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:11.120
<v Speaker 1>for the Russian people, even peasants just like him. But

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>it all feels less charming when we remember that many

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:15.800
<v Speaker 1>of the people who came to speak with him were women,

0:36:16.040 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and if they came on the wrong day. Grigory's attentions

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:21.759
<v Speaker 1>came with a heavy cost. He never stopped using his

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:25.239
<v Speaker 1>position and his power to force favors from vulnerable followers.

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>There were men among his petitioners too. Of course, the

0:36:28.880 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>secret police jotted down the many times that men tried

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:34.319
<v Speaker 1>to visit him in secret, ashamed of asking him for

0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>help with their careers. With securing promotions or with arranging

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:42.240
<v Speaker 1>shady business deals. Once he even had the governor general

0:36:42.239 --> 0:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>of the city of Petrograd groveling at his feet. By

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:49.240
<v Speaker 1>the later months of nineteen sixteen, Resputant's apartment almost seemed

0:36:49.280 --> 0:36:52.719
<v Speaker 1>like its own kind of government agency. His power was

0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:56.280
<v Speaker 1>no longer a matter of perception. He toppled his enemies,

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and the divine autocrat looked to him to speak the

0:36:58.920 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>words of God. All of this for a Siberian peasant

0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>who never had an official government post. Yes, he became

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a creature of Petrograd. No matter how many nights he

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.440
<v Speaker 1>spent collecting gifts of wine and wealth from the Russian elites,

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>he always seemed to hold on to his past, the

0:37:15.160 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 1>light and the darkness too. In later years, Rasputin's daughter

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.319
<v Speaker 1>would write that Grigory wasn't just trying to use the

0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Czar and Czarina as pawns. No, his belief in their

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 1>god given place ruling the empire that was real, and

0:37:29.000 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 1>over time he did come to love Nicholas and Alexandra.

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 1>He loved serving them and their children. But he also

0:37:35.520 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>loved the power that he got from that bond, and

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.719
<v Speaker 1>he had his own views too, of who the Romanovs

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:45.520
<v Speaker 1>really were. He believed that Nicholas was good, but painfully naive.

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.480
<v Speaker 1>He was a czar too far removed from the people,

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 1>too wrapped in a bubble of protection, that made the

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:55.239
<v Speaker 1>Russian Empire hate and fear their ruler rather than love him.

0:37:55.280 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>And once, it seems he even said so to Nicholas's face.

0:38:00.360 --> 0:38:03.279
<v Speaker 1>And maybe in just this one instance, the czar saw

0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>things more clearly than the mystic. Nicholas told Rasputin that

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>if he and Alexandra were to live out in the open,

0:38:09.200 --> 0:38:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the people would kill him, just as they had his grandfather.

0:38:12.719 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Overcome by his devotion to the divine emperor, raspute and

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:19.319
<v Speaker 1>denied it. He said, the people would never kill their zar.

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.840
<v Speaker 1>If it would be anyone, Rasputin believed it would be

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the elites and intellectuals who would finally eat the Romanovs alive.

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.319
<v Speaker 1>But if Grigory was talking about the czar when he

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:32.880
<v Speaker 1>said those words, he got it slightly wrong. The elites

0:38:32.920 --> 0:38:37.080
<v Speaker 1>of Petrograd didn't have their knives out pointed at Nicholas. Now.

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 1>They were appointed at the peasant standing behind the throne.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it for this week's episode of unobscured stick around

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 1>after this short sponsor break for a preview of what's

0:38:51.200 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 1>in store for next week. She came in with the others.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a typical day for Resputant. Petitioners were lined

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 1>up outside his door. They filed in with requests for prayer,

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 1>for favors, for help with something in their lives that

0:39:08.239 --> 0:39:11.560
<v Speaker 1>was out of reach. Maybe they wanted healing for themselves

0:39:11.719 --> 0:39:13.919
<v Speaker 1>or for a wounded son who had come back from

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the front, and she came in with them. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no sign that Resputant thought she was any different

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<v Speaker 1>from the rest, That is until she stepped up to Grigory.

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<v Speaker 1>Something in her hand caught the light, and he asked

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<v Speaker 1>her to show it to him. As she approached. Out

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<v Speaker 1>from under her coat, she drew a revolver with a

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<v Speaker 1>ferocious light in her eyes. She raised it between them

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<v Speaker 1>and wavered. After a moment, she broke down. The point

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<v Speaker 1>of a gun fell to the floor, and she offered

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<v Speaker 1>it to Resputant. She had come to kill him, she said,

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<v Speaker 1>and the secret police who were guarding Resputant hadn't seen

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<v Speaker 1>that she was carrying a weapon to her meeting with him.

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<v Speaker 1>She could have taken his life then and there. But

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<v Speaker 1>instead she put the gun in his hands, and as

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<v Speaker 1>she did, she told him it was when she saw

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<v Speaker 1>his eyes that she realized her mistake. She simply couldn't

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