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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network podcast, the number one show

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Speaker 4: Want to pull, and we are underway.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl fifty four is set Kansas City Chiefs taking

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Speaker 1: on the San Francisco forty nine ers.

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Speaker 3: Here with a special Action Network podcast to break it

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Speaker 3: all down.

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Speaker 1: I am Chris Raybond, joined by the Prime Minister of

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Speaker 1: Degenerate Nation Stucky Stucky?

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Speaker 2: What up?

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Speaker 3: Forty nine ers? Underdogs by a point total fifty three?

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Speaker 3: What's going on? How you feeling about the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 4: Look a narrative you're gonna hear this week is a

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Speaker 4: super Bowl has never closed at a pick?

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Speaker 2: Who cares?

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Speaker 4: And the reason I bring that up If you lost

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Speaker 4: money today, I lost money today. I was firing on

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Speaker 4: the under in San fran Live. It's all I wanted

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Speaker 4: and like the game played out how I wanted. San

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Speaker 4: Franco's a lead. They run it a billion times and

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Speaker 4: that's what happened, and there happened to be some big

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Speaker 4: plays and blah blah blah. I didn't hate that play,

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Speaker 4: you know, And then I took some some Chiefs live

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Speaker 4: but then I ended up taking some live under in

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Speaker 4: the fourth quarter and they hit that big play. But whatever,

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Speaker 4: so I lost some money. Don't fire on the Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl right now, Just don't because it opened a pick

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Speaker 4: and might go to one and a half either way.

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Speaker 4: Right it's going to bounce around to the dead zone.

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Speaker 4: I will say, if you wake up and you're listening

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Speaker 4: to this and it's three either way ticket, you know,

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Speaker 4: if you see Chiefs plus three ticket, if you see

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Speaker 4: forty nine ERDs plus three ticket, right like, that's how

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Speaker 4: close this game is. And I don't think either three

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Speaker 4: would last. I don't even think we get there either way.

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Speaker 4: But my main point is there's two weeks to go.

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Speaker 4: Save it for CN on basketball. My followers don't talk

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Speaker 4: about on a Monday night, So that's my initial reaction.

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Speaker 4: But I think that at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: Ravens or Chiefs best teams in the AFC, Niners best

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Speaker 4: overall team in the NFC. So we got a great matchup.

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Speaker 4: But then we're gonna have two weeks to break down

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Speaker 4: the best defense in the NFL versus the best offense

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Speaker 4: in the NFL. So it'll be fun two weeks.

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Speaker 1: You know, I actually did fire on a Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: but I did it because I was prepared, like for

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Speaker 1: the matchups and I'm what I'm saying, Oh no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I have it. So I have it as a pick

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Speaker 1: and I'll explain why. But I did get it at

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Speaker 1: San Francisco plus one and a half and it started

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Speaker 1: moving back toward one, So that's kind of why I

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Speaker 1: wanted to grab it then, because like you said, it

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Speaker 1: might end up closing back at a pick.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it gets to three either way.

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Speaker 1: But the reason I have it as a pick, and

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Speaker 1: I really do truly think this is a coin flip game,

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Speaker 1: is because.

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Speaker 3: It could come down to something as simple as who wins.

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Speaker 1: The opening coin toss or who gets the ball first,

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Speaker 1: because I think both of these teams, you know, Kansas City,

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Speaker 1: the slow starts. They you don't want to get off

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Speaker 1: like more than any other team, I think Cam Francisco

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Speaker 1: is more dangerous than Tennessee in that not only you know,

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Speaker 1: do they have the run game, but they have essentially the.

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Speaker 3: Best defense in the week.

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Speaker 1: It's not going to be quite as easy for the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs to come back. However, on the other side of

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Speaker 1: that is, if the Chiefs of the most explosive offense

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Speaker 1: in the league, if they get up let's say seven nothing,

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Speaker 1: this forty nine er team is going to be in

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Speaker 1: a spot that you know, they've shown they can win

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Speaker 1: a shootout against New Orleans forty eight forty six, but

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Speaker 1: you still don't want to be in a shootout in

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Speaker 1: this against this Patrick Mahomes offense. You don't want to,

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Speaker 1: you know, Jimmy Garoppolo, I mean barely throw the ball

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Speaker 1: in this postseason, let's be honest. And now it's going

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Speaker 1: to be essentially like a month since he had meaningful

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Speaker 1: pass attempts, you know, you know, thirty plus pass attempts

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Speaker 4: So I think both Giants, Yeah, but like Eli Manning

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Speaker 4: very well, right, oh yeah, that's Jimmy g exactly.

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Speaker 1: I mean no, he's better, like he's better than Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: But and this offense with Kyle Shanahan, with Kittle, all

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Speaker 1: those guys, we're not talking about the whole team, ya,

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Speaker 1: but who is he can win a yeah, and this

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Speaker 1: these high powered offenses like the Chief, how they tend

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Speaker 1: to go down in Super Bowls. It's teams with the

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Speaker 1: I can get pressure with a four man rush and

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Speaker 1: hold up on the back end, which is what San

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Speaker 1: Fran can do. But I still think I would worry

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Speaker 3: So have it as a pick.

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Speaker 1: Got Sam Fran plus one and a half. We'll see

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Speaker 1: how the line moves throughout the week, but right now

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Speaker 1: most books I'm seeing it it's Casey by a point

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Speaker 1: with the total of fifty three.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna break this whole game down, but by and

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Speaker 4: then we'll talk about that both championship games before we

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Speaker 4: get out of here. But my initial conundrum is Patrick

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Speaker 4: Mahomes is an elite quarterback. Elite in every sense. I

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Speaker 4: don't think Jimmy g is. Maybe he will adult hit

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Speaker 4: at that, but he reminds me it was the weirdest thing.

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Speaker 4: The weirdest thing is that I tweeted out that he's

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Speaker 4: Eli manning people arguing in the bars that he should

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Speaker 4: be a Hall of Fame quarterback. You could argue that

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Speaker 4: because of the rings Jimmy Gee win multiple rings, he

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Speaker 4: hasn't proved to me that his elite quarterback yet, right, Like,

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Speaker 4: there's a reason that San Fran gets a lead. They

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Speaker 4: have a great defense and they just sit on it.

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Speaker 4: Part of that is they have a great defense. Part

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Speaker 4: of that they can run the ball. But when there's

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Speaker 4: a game, it's a pick at a super Bowl, Like,

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Speaker 4: part of me says, I want to back who I

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Speaker 4: know is the superior quarterback, right, but then I look

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Speaker 4: at this Chiefs defense. It's still garbage and people, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna break all this down every single play after the buye.

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Speaker 2: People want to say the.

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Speaker 4: Chiefs defense has improved past defense, which I have said,

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Speaker 4: but people have taken it to extreme.

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Speaker 2: Like the Chiefs pass defense is good.

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Speaker 4: We've already talked about Thornhill their safeties out, but go

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Speaker 4: back and look who they played, right, they played the

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Speaker 2: They played Mitch Bortles, like, and.

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Speaker 4: When they get a lead, the defense is good. You

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Speaker 4: calling out Henry, but you have guys who can blitz

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Speaker 4: the quarterback and you have a defense if they can

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Speaker 4: sit back with a lead. Once they get a lead,

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Speaker 4: their defense looks okay because you know they're gonna throw

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Speaker 4: it and you make an offense one dimensional. It all

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Speaker 4: works in harmony. When the Chiefs are leading, and they

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Speaker 4: But if you look at all the parts and in

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Speaker 4: the beginning of these games, you can move the ball

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Speaker 4: on them. And now if the Chiefs get behind, like

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Speaker 4: you alluded to earlier, this isn't the Texans secondary. This

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Speaker 4: isn't the Titans secondary. Right, you get out fourteen to nothing,

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Speaker 4: but this is what the forty nine ers feast on.

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Speaker 4: So as you also said, he could could be the

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Speaker 4: coin toss because the forty nine Ers live on a lead, right,

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Speaker 4: and the Chiefs have been living on Who cares that

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Speaker 4: we're behind because we're playing these garbage AFC secondaries. We

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Speaker 4: avoided the Patriots, we avoided the Ravens. So that's the

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Speaker 4: conundrum because I have the better quarterback, but the Chiefs

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Speaker 4: break down for the next two weeks. It should be

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Speaker 4: fascinating and it cook them now to a player two.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's interesting because the Chiefs definitely have

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Speaker 1: the best I think overall unit in this game, which

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Speaker 1: is their pass offense. However, the forty nine Ers deep

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Speaker 1: pass defense is right there. And then the forty nine

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Speaker 1: Ers run game as they show today, and with the

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Speaker 1: like Tevin Coleman, I mean that shoulder injury didn't look good.

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Speaker 1: I came back on sidelin with his arm and his sling,

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Speaker 1: so that's something to monitor. But you know he most

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Speaker 1: still have Matt Brida, this forty nine Ers run game,

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Speaker 1: because of that line. Let's remember that the one bad

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City run defense. And that's you know, they

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Speaker 1: played a great game against Thereck Henry today. Sure, but

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Speaker 1: that was the Titans, and that was still a one

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Speaker 1: dimensional team with Ryan Tannehill. Like Jim me G's better

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Speaker 3: Worry about that.

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Speaker 1: And again that's why I say, you know, it's really

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Speaker 1: spread really does get to three either way, I honestly

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Speaker 2: Now, I don't think it does. I mean the interesting

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Speaker 2: thing is that, but I look back at.

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Speaker 4: The at both championship games today and this sound boarant

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Speaker 4: one play is in the game.

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Speaker 2: People don't understand how big one play.

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Speaker 4: We talked all week about the only way that Packers

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Speaker 4: wrote about they got to get a lead, early lead.

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Speaker 4: You're only good, and you're only good in the first quarter,

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Speaker 4: and you have to force Jimmy g in the turnovers.

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Speaker 4: One play took all three of those possible scenarios out

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Speaker 4: by punting it fourth and one at midfield. First of all,

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Speaker 4: you punt, you don't get a lead. You're in the

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Speaker 4: first quarter, driving and good night everything. You're not getting turnovers.

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Speaker 4: Jimmy G just thirt eight times one play fourth and one.

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Speaker 4: You don't go for it there, you deserve to lose. Titans,

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Speaker 4: by the way, played it aggressively fourth and what They

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Speaker 4: went for it and ended up scoring a touchdown. Right,

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Speaker 4: the Chiefs still came back to win. But you know

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Speaker 4: when that game flipped and I go back and forth

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Speaker 4: and so and I want your opinion on it.

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Speaker 2: Chiefs score, they kick it off to.

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Speaker 4: The Titans, and the Titans get the ball with what

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Speaker 4: three minutes to go, and they know that they're up

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Speaker 4: three or four and they have two point fifty I think,

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Speaker 4: and the Chiefs are going to get the ball and

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Speaker 2: So there's a conundrum here.

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Speaker 4: It's like, all right, I know, I gotta waiste clock

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Speaker 4: because the Chiefs are going to get the ball if

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 2: Get it, but it's still the Chiefs defense. And then

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Speaker 2: also it's mahone. He might not need much time. But

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Speaker 2: I also have Derrick Henry, so.

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Speaker 4: Like running it first and second down usually is bad there,

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Speaker 2: So I can't fall Rabel that much because it's not

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Speaker 4: You know, to scrub back. But looking back, and at

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Speaker 4: you're the Packers, you go for fourth and one at

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Speaker 4: midfield because you stink compared to the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: Your team was only good in the first quarter all year.

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Speaker 4: You need the lead, and you cannot play from behind

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Speaker 2: Not much you can do. So the teams that deserve

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Speaker 4: But there was a couple of times that I think

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Speaker 2: What do you think, So we'll.

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Speaker 1: Start with the Packers and kind of go backwards. So

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Speaker 1: I just thought that the Packers came out poorly in

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Speaker 4: Decision zero zero, four to one and midfield. You go

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Speaker 4: see the gun, right, I do see the reason.

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Speaker 1: I do see why they punted it, and this is

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Speaker 4: But hold on, let's not Why did you see the

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Speaker 4: reasoning for punting it there?

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Speaker 3: Because you're you're.

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Speaker 1: There's not like I get it. I'm not saying I

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Speaker 3: And some people say, well, they should have done that,

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Speaker 1: I thought the Titans didn't go to Henry enough on

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Speaker 1: Of these In the first two playoff games, they didn't

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Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta think about, you know, making a

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Speaker 1: make Jimmy show it.

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Speaker 3: And they they didn't need to show it.

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Speaker 1: They just ran the ball straight down the throat, which

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's a matter of matchup

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Speaker 4: This isn't even hindsight or Monday morning quarterback. Listen, I

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Speaker 4: formula for the Packers to win, right, And I said

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Speaker 4: everything I still go right? And I said, their first

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Speaker 4: entire year, the only way they beat anybody. Go to

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Speaker 4: the Redskins games. They get off in the first quarter, right,

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Speaker 4: So that's number one. They're often is only good in

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Speaker 4: interception rate. It's horrible, twenty six in the NFL Rogers's

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Speaker 4: point seven. By punting it there, you're taking out your drive,

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Speaker 4: you're taking out the potential lead, and you take out

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Speaker 4: Jimmy g throwing the ball, and you're a road underdog.

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Speaker 4: You have to play aggressively, like to sit there and

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Speaker 2: But I mean, that is how you live. That's you,

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Speaker 4: All year the Packers were an overachieving team that relied

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Speaker 4: I get you, but that was why I still I

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Speaker 4: just want to say that not after the fact.

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Speaker 3: Like if you just look at it, they punted the ball.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco got it at the eleven, Like, what are

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Speaker 1: it's still like they could have just got stopped again.

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Speaker 1: Like what I feel like the odds probably aren't too different.

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Speaker 1: So like, I don't hate it there in you know

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Speaker 3: The run, so it ended up not mattering.

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Speaker 2: The forty I could run it, they didn't make Jimmy

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Speaker 4: Like when you're also assuming that the forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: It could be a touchback. They could shank the punt.

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Speaker 4: They okay, eighty yards what I'm saying they punted at

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Speaker 2: Did on the road when they went for it and

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Speaker 4: You do that, You're not facing Patrick Mahomes, You're facing

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Speaker 1: So how do you think that plays into cause obviously,

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Speaker 1: that's besides the point. How do you think that factors in?

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Speaker 1: You know, Andy Reid has shown to be conservative at times.

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Speaker 1: How do you think the coaching matchup factors in here?

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Speaker 1: Because you have two coaches that kind of like Shanahan's

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Speaker 4: Final I'm gonna hear about to read off the buy,

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Speaker 4: which is a valid thing. It's one of the most

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Speaker 4: break all that down in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: And blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: By the way, I do have to mention this for

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Speaker 4: have called that, and Chiefs would have on regardless. But

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Speaker 4: I think it took away a shot at the Titans

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Speaker 4: having the drive the field for the cover. That's all

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Speaker 4: I'll say about it. But it didn't affect the outcome

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Speaker 4: think the coaching will be a factor. Read off of

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Speaker 4: But Shanahan off of a bye, we don't have a

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's almost a wash at this point.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if there's anything that the Chiefs defense

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Speaker 4: and the Chiefs run defense just stinks. Look at it

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Speaker 2: So we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I think both coaches will have some things drawn up

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Speaker 1: Why what are your thoughts to read off of bys

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Speaker 1: just because you know there's still a limited sample size

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is essentially capable of the same things Andy

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Speaker 1: At one point, they're playing single high. One point, they're

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Speaker 1: And that's again that's why I keep coming back to

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Speaker 1: don't you know, there's not going to be a weather

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Speaker 1: I would probably like if I was giving somebody advice

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Speaker 1: but both of these teams have been extremely profitable to bet.

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Speaker 3: It's a coin flip.

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Speaker 4: I'm telling you right now, I'm leading Chiefs, but I

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Speaker 4: don't want to throw out like a full lean or

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Speaker 4: a bet without going into it all after today and

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Speaker 4: being emotional. And that's basically what I'm what I want

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Speaker 4: this episode to be about, is that we're gonna have props.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have every prop you can imagine. We're gonna

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Speaker 4: have matchups. We're gonna spend the next two weeks looking

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Speaker 4: at this game. And this line isn't sitting at six

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Speaker 4: and a half. Maybe gonna go to seven or seven

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Speaker 4: a half right where there's some urgency that's not this line.

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Speaker 4: This line is picked to one and a half, and

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Speaker 4: if it does get the three listen people that are

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Speaker 4: listening to this podcast aren't betting a million dollars, which,

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Speaker 4: if you want you can go out there and find

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Speaker 4: a way to been a million dollars in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 4: and if the line gets a three, you might have

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Speaker 4: someone go out there and bet a million dollars on

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Speaker 4: it and it will last for maybe two seconds. So

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Speaker 4: my point is to most casual betters, some that are

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Speaker 4: a little more sophisticated, the casual betters, there's not gonna

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Speaker 4: be a three that persists right without a major injury

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Speaker 4: or something that I don't foresee. So we have time.

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Speaker 4: There's a trillion College of Basketball games between now and

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl. There's a trillion NBA teams that will

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Speaker 4: quit in the second half between now and the super Bowl.

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Speaker 4: There are thirteen shootouts that will happen between now and

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Speaker 4: the super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: There's the Australian Open.

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Speaker 4: There's so many things that you can bet on between

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Speaker 4: now and the super Bowl, and they're not going to

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Speaker 4: cross a key number, and you can bet all of

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Speaker 4: the props.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have all of that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be up to the off, so you gonna

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Speaker 3: be there, yeah, believe.

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Speaker 4: So I'll be up there with Raybaund We'll record some

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Speaker 4: stuff up there live during the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I should just mention everybody.

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Speaker 1: So this episode reacting to the games, reacting to the

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Speaker 1: initial opening lines of the Super Bowl, and then we

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Speaker 1: will come to you January thirtieth with our full Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl breakdown, will have Sean Corner will be on. He'll

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Speaker 1: break down some of his favorite props. We'll talk spread

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Speaker 1: over under everything you need to know. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: we'll have our Fantasy Flex Pro Bowl episode which we'll

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Speaker 1: cover betting on the Pro Bowl, betting props on the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl, playing dfs on the Pro Bowl, and it'll

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Speaker 1: be Freedman, Corner and I with a special appearance from

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Speaker 1: the odds maker, Sean Corner's dad, who is a fantasy

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Speaker 1: betting og odds making og, so be sure to check that.

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Speaker 3: But just wanted to clarify that we will be back.

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Speaker 1: The week after with our full Super Bowl breakdown, so

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Speaker 1: we have some time to really take everything in and

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Speaker 1: get you situated as far as the best bets for

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Speaker 1: the side of the total of the props and everything else.

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Speaker 4: We're going to record next Wednesday, as we always do,

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Speaker 4: by four points. By the way, I think we're gonna

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Speaker 4: have a max of five points. I think he won

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Speaker 4: the season on contest Okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, i'mbout to say, like, I don't really this is

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Speaker 1: like we have like onespread and one total.

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Speaker 3: Now it's not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, we could just let people know.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna send I think a side and a total

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Speaker 4: either the same side, because we can't like talk about it,

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Speaker 4: can't just take the opposite. We actually want to talk

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Speaker 4: about the sides and totals that we like. So we'll

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Speaker 4: send a side, a total, and a prop to our producer.

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Speaker 4: If we have any one of the same, you win.

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Speaker 4: If not, I have to win all three and you

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Speaker 4: have to lose all three for me to win.

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Speaker 2: And because we.

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Speaker 4: Don't want collusion, even though we wouldn't do that, we

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Speaker 4: still will have our favorite side, total and prop on

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Speaker 4: that episode next week and we will break down other

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Speaker 4: props colore. I mean, we're gonna spend the next ten

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Speaker 4: days doing that. So we record on Wednesday, it'll come

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Speaker 4: out on Thursday. I'll just end with this because I

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Speaker 4: do want to get your thoughts on this ready. So

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Speaker 4: Richard Sherman, who I respect and love watching, and he

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Speaker 4: got burnt and he really pissed me off. The other

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Speaker 4: week when he was preaching to the press about how

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Speaker 4: great he was and how everyone hates him. He made

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Speaker 4: some good points because he said that there are people

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Speaker 4: out there that wanted him to fail right early on

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Speaker 4: in his career, and he didn't, so there are people

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Speaker 4: that now look for ways.

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Speaker 2: To tear him down.

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Speaker 4: They're like, oh, you play in his own you're getting older,

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Speaker 4: You're sitting out there and cover three and go cover

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Speaker 4: four now, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: And he keeps putting up elite numbers. You can look

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Speaker 2: at the.

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Speaker 1: Number one cornerback in Pro football focus is agree this

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Speaker 1: same look at his touchdowns, giving up his interceptions in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: And I really want your true opinion on this because

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Speaker 4: I'm conafflicted on this because I see how great he is.

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Speaker 4: But my favorite athlete of all time who I used

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Speaker 4: to see some tickets to the Ravens for fucking so

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Speaker 4: many years, traveled to rogans A is Ed Reid, and

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Speaker 4: I used to go spotlight that man, like my favorite

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Speaker 4: athlete of all time. Not once in my fucking life

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Speaker 4: did I ever hear him go in a press conference

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Speaker 4: and tell people this is how great I am. Why

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Speaker 4: do you think I'm not great. He just went out

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Speaker 4: and performed. It's very odd to me that Sherman went

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Speaker 4: on that rant. I just w your thoughts on it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's always kind of been his thing. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's he's the guy that will talk and back it up.

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Speaker 1: I think that the reason he probably did it is,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's remember how bad this defense was last year.

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Speaker 1: If you looked at Sherman's numbers, no one threw him

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Speaker 1: and he was fine generally, and everyone's kind of the

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Speaker 1: narrative was kind of he's done, he's too slow this

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Speaker 1: that the third. So I think he just kind of

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Speaker 1: wanted to set that straight. And I think he actually

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Speaker 1: revels in the spotlight.

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Speaker 3: Now, yeah, he got.

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Speaker 1: Beat by Devonte Adams, I think there was he was

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Speaker 1: expecting help from Tart because Tart did like bite to

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Speaker 1: the inside before recovering. I don't know exactly what blame

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Speaker 1: goes to who, but I think that Sherman he's a

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Speaker 1: guy where if he talks, you still kind of expect

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Speaker 1: him to back it up. Now that being said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: but isn't Sherman he can't cover Tyreek Hill when I won.

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Speaker 4: But isn't Sherman a wide receiver in his mindset, so

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Speaker 4: wide receiver. Greats do that, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: Name another Hall of Fame which Sherman is. Name another

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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame defender that does that. It goes out

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Speaker 4: and says, look at me, look at what I've done.

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Speaker 3: Sanders Now, I mean Dean Sanders was the talk he was.

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Speaker 3: He talked a tough he was prime time Sandy. He

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Speaker 3: high stepped to the end, so he talked on the

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Speaker 3: field off of it.

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Speaker 4: But everyone knew how great Dean standards. This is why

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Speaker 4: I've conflicted. People did try to tear down Sherman. But

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Speaker 4: it's just weird to me that Sherman he still has

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Speaker 4: his chip, which I guess is a good thing and

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Speaker 4: why he's still performing.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Found I found it odd that he still had to

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Speaker 4: say all you hate, still are still hating on me

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Speaker 4: and like, but I guess people still do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I feel like Sherman has

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Speaker 2: proved himself by now.

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Speaker 1: But you also got to remember, like Edred didn't necessarily

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Speaker 1: have the like. So like when Sherman, you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of was yelling after the everything and he got villainized,

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Speaker 1: you know, So I think that's part of it.

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Speaker 3: It's just me. It's more media narrative than anything.

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Speaker 1: Like I think even when he made a really good

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Speaker 1: play then he was like yelling at Er and Andrews

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Speaker 1: and the media was like villainizing him, and he was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's just kind of like

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Speaker 1: one of those things where I think he's just trying

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Speaker 1: to set the rectray. But you could say, like like again,

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Speaker 1: you could say, okay, but who's doing what Term's doing

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Speaker 1: on the field, No one really, So.

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Speaker 2: No, that's fair.

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Speaker 4: I mean, ed Reid was a fucking all start Miami

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Speaker 4: when Miami was actually respectable. Richard Sermon with the Stanford right,

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Speaker 4: so like Edery never had that, Like all right, I

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Speaker 4: went to Stanford. People don't really know where I came

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Speaker 4: from and doubted me.

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Speaker 2: So I get that. Just want to hear your opinion

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Speaker 2: on it, That's all I offer tonight, man, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, let's get out of here again. We'll be

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Speaker 3: with you guys next week, not this week.

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Speaker 1: So next week we'll drop an episode on the thirtieth

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Speaker 1: and that will be our full Super Bowl breakdown. In

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Speaker 1: the meantime, we'll have the Fantasy Flex dropping at its

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Speaker 1: usual time on Wednesday, and that will cover all the

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Speaker 1: angles of betting the Pro Bowl, props for the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 3: And dfs for the Pro Bowl. This is the Action

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Speaker 3: Network podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can file Stucky at Stucky two in the Action

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Speaker 3: You can found me at Chris RAYBONMD.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to download the app for real time odds,

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Speaker 3: File Stuck and I on Twitter at Stucky two and

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Speaker 3: at Chris Raybon. Until next time, Let's get this one go.

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Speaker 4: Pou Miles, We're finished talking