Speaker 1: We've seen a lot of changes in American politics over
Speaker 1: the years, particularly with President Trump, the America First Movement
Speaker 1: really reshaping the Republican Party. The Republican Party is now
Speaker 1: the party of the working class, of working class voters,
Speaker 1: Democrats the party of coastal leads. And we've seen recently
Speaker 1: even AOC who purported to be on the side of
Speaker 1: the working class now getting shut down, shouted down at
Speaker 1: some of the events that she's been she's been holding.
Speaker 1: People are now aware that she's a fraud, that the
Speaker 1: Left are frauds on a lot of these issues. So
Speaker 1: what is this November November eight, this election, these mid terms?
Speaker 1: What does it mean for that? What does it mean
Speaker 1: for this realignment? And what does it mean for the
Speaker 1: current Republican leadership. Is it time for Mitch McConnell to go?
Speaker 1: I think so? Will it be his time to go?
Speaker 1: And and some of these critical races we have liber
Speaker 1: Terryan candidates on the ballot. Will they be spoilers? We're
Speaker 1: gonna ask all these questions to my friend ned Ryan.
Speaker 1: You've probably seen him on Fox. He's on Tucker a
Speaker 1: lot with Laura Ingram as well. He is the founder
Speaker 1: and CEO of American Majority, a nonpartisan political training institute
Speaker 1: whose mission is to identify and mold the next wave
Speaker 1: of liberty minded candidates, grassroot activists, and community leaders. Since
Speaker 1: its founding in January of two thousand eight, American Majority
Speaker 1: has trained over fifty thou candidates and activists. He's a
Speaker 1: really smart guy. He's a friend of mine. So we'll
Speaker 1: hear what he has to say and what does he
Speaker 1: think is going to happen on November eighth, What are
Speaker 1: his predictions? All of that and more. Stay with us, Ned, Ryan.
Speaker 1: That Ryan, It's good to have you on the podcast,
Speaker 1: my friend. Yeah, absolutely, good to be with you. Lisa.
Speaker 1: Last time I saw you was at a Buck's engagement party.
Speaker 1: That was a lot of fun. That was a total blast.
Speaker 1: I was telling my wife later, it was just fun.
Speaker 1: For everybody that you've either interacted with on TV, that
Speaker 1: you've known of seen, and we were all in the
Speaker 1: same room together, it was It was awesome. It was
Speaker 1: an awesome evening. And I typically do not stay until
Speaker 1: they shut us down, but we stayed until I shut
Speaker 1: us down and went to the after party at the
Speaker 1: local pub. So it was it was an awesome night.
Speaker 1: I did not get home till a lot later than
Speaker 1: I normally stay out. Ditto, ditto. But it was so
Speaker 1: much fun to see you and meet your lovely wife,
Speaker 1: So that was it was a lot of fun. But
Speaker 1: you know, and we had a great night, and things
Speaker 1: are starting to look brighter politically in the country. You know,
Speaker 1: we've got the light at the end of the tunnel
Speaker 1: coming up here in November eight. How are you feeling
Speaker 1: about things, Well, I've always felt bullish about Republican chances
Speaker 1: pretty much the entire time. I think I think we
Speaker 1: threw some people off. Which frustrated me a little bit
Speaker 1: was the attempt by the corporate propagandists and Democrats to
Speaker 1: somehow really sell a false narrative that Democrats had a
Speaker 1: legitimate chance in the mid terms of somehow holding onto
Speaker 1: the House. You know, I think it's a false narrative
Speaker 1: that they're going to hold onto the Senate, that they
Speaker 1: weren't going to get absolutely crushed in these mid terms.
Speaker 1: At least part of it was just basically, you cannot
Speaker 1: escape the gravitational pull of history and a lot of
Speaker 1: trends that has shown along the way that the first
Speaker 1: mid term for a president is usually pretty pretty brutal,
Speaker 1: especially if that presidents below and approval rating. And I've
Speaker 1: joked in op eds and on Twitter when a president
Speaker 1: is under on average he loses thirty seven seats in
Speaker 1: the House in his first mid term. I don't know
Speaker 1: how bad it gets when you have a president that's
Speaker 1: under forty in approval rating, where Biden is in some
Speaker 1: of these these national polls. But to give people perspective,
Speaker 1: you know, Bill Clinton was at I think in approval.
Speaker 1: I believe he lost fifty three seats in the House
Speaker 1: that year. Fast forward to Barack Obama was forty five
Speaker 1: and approval rating and lost sixty three seats in the House.
Speaker 1: Now there's different dynamics obviously between those years and redistricting,
Speaker 1: some of the lines have gotten hardened, all of those things.
Speaker 1: I have no trouble believing that the low end of
Speaker 1: pickups for Republicans in the Houses you will be thirty
Speaker 1: seven seats according to historical averages. But I'm starting to
Speaker 1: suspect it will be in the forties, if if not higher. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I agree I think that this race is or obviously
Speaker 1: we can't get up, give up. We need a uh
Speaker 1: in a full force ahead until November eight. But you're right,
Speaker 1: I I do. We live in this era where the
Speaker 1: media isn't interested in reporting the facts, they're interested in persuading.
Speaker 1: But what we've come to realize with as well, posters
Speaker 1: do too. Oh this is the thing I've been you know,
Speaker 1: the psy ops, the operation on polls. And I remind
Speaker 1: people again in the infamous ABC Washington post in Wisconsin
Speaker 1: that showed Biden winning by seventeen points the week before
Speaker 1: the elections, he ends up winning by twenty thousand votes,
Speaker 1: and I have serious questions about whether he actually won
Speaker 1: that state based off some stuff, but still seventeen points
Speaker 1: and barely ekes out a win by I don't even
Speaker 1: think it was a full point. And they were attempting
Speaker 1: to do the same thing this year, Lisa, this is
Speaker 1: the thing that frustrated me a little bit with some
Speaker 1: on the right and conservatives starting to panic when they
Speaker 1: actually believe some of these rigged and manipulated polls. And
Speaker 1: I've been highlighting over the last few weeks registered voter
Speaker 1: polls are trash. They mean nothing, garbage, Their garbage coming
Speaker 1: down the home stretches the likely voter polls, and the
Speaker 1: likely voter polls have typically always shown Republicans winning the
Speaker 1: generic by anywhere from to three upwards of six points,
Speaker 1: And now what you're seeing is even these registered voter
Speaker 1: polls are showing Republicans up five six points. So you know,
Speaker 1: I just moving forward, and again, I'm extremely optimistic about
Speaker 1: pickups in the House. I think we're gonna take the Senates.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna have a thirty twenty, if not greater,
Speaker 1: Republican gubernatorial split. I think we're gonna pick up state
Speaker 1: legislative seats, secretary of state, attorney generals. I think it's
Speaker 1: going to be pretty definitive. But in the future, Republicans
Speaker 1: and Conservatives need to look at polls with a very
Speaker 1: skeptical eye and ask themselves are these properly weighted? Are
Speaker 1: these registered voter versus likely voter? And don't fall for
Speaker 1: these games again, because the corporate propagandists are driving a
Speaker 1: certain narrative and in many ways trying to suppress the
Speaker 1: vote by really trying to say, well, it's you know,
Speaker 1: you don't have as good a chance of winning this election,
Speaker 1: You're not going to have a definitive a win. Just
Speaker 1: ignore them. It's not the truth. Well, and that's what
Speaker 1: it is. It's to suppress the vote and also donors
Speaker 1: as well. Ned. I mean that's that We've seen Mitch
Speaker 1: McConnell pull out of Arizona, a race where Blake Masters
Speaker 1: is going to win, and he pulled out. He canceled
Speaker 1: almost ten million dollars in television ads. Uh, closer to
Speaker 1: eighteen million actually by the time it's all said and done,
Speaker 1: which is a crying shame. Which to make matters even worse, Lisa,
Speaker 1: he's dropped I believe, seven million into the Alaska race,
Speaker 1: which is essentially two Republicans running against each other. It's
Speaker 1: just he wants Murkowski to win, who I think is
Speaker 1: a complete and utter disaster. But but to highlight how
Speaker 1: bad it is, again pulls out eighteen million dollars worth
Speaker 1: of ads from Arizona on behalf of Blake Masters. Quite frankly, Lisa,
Speaker 1: of because he's made it known he hates Blake and
Speaker 1: has spent seven million in a race that a Republican
Speaker 1: is going to win. Regardless. It's absolutely insane. But but
Speaker 1: I would you know, since we're talking about Mitch McConnell,
Speaker 1: I would remind people Mitch is far more concerned with
Speaker 1: twenty six votes than he is with fifty one, And
Speaker 1: by that I mean he wants to have control of
Speaker 1: the Senate GOP Caucus no matter what happens on November eight.
Speaker 1: And it's a shame because I would hope that he
Speaker 1: would have a much bigger, larger view of what's actually
Speaker 1: taking place in this country. But he can't get past himself.
Speaker 1: Do you think he will be in a leadership position
Speaker 1: when Republicans take back the edit? Or is this time up?
Speaker 1: If I'm being completely honest, I sincerely hope his time
Speaker 1: is up. But but I've been involved in leadership election,
Speaker 1: but that was in the House for ten years. First
Speaker 1: of all, you've got to get a horse to ride, right.
Speaker 1: It's one thing to say we despise Mitch McConnell, and
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to tell you I loathe and
Speaker 1: despise miss McConnell, But in you have a horse to
Speaker 1: ride in that majority leader race, it's you're basically, for
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes, howling at the moment. My hope
Speaker 1: is that Rick Scott will step up. And Rick Scott
Speaker 1: out of Florida is the NRSC, the nash Republican Senatorial
Speaker 1: Committee Chair this year, I think Republicans are probably gonna
Speaker 1: got seven, but even six, and if he has a
Speaker 1: really successful cycle, I think Rick Scott has the ability
Speaker 1: to stand up and say I can be I'm a
Speaker 1: legitimate option as majority leader to Mitch McConnell. But but
Speaker 1: the real question is will he actually stand up and
Speaker 1: throws happening ring? Yeah. I mean they've they've been fighting
Speaker 1: a little bit publicly, so maybe I don't I want
Speaker 1: to say. I mean, you know, as Mitch McConnell has
Speaker 1: been really truly bagging on Blake masters, what's probably not
Speaker 1: as well known as that, Rick Scott went out of
Speaker 1: his way to help outside entities raise money to kind
Speaker 1: of fill the gap uh in some of the outside
Speaker 1: spending in Arizona on the half of Blake. So Rick
Speaker 1: is committed uh to these races and actually making sure
Speaker 1: Republicans get the majority, which I would argue I'm not
Speaker 1: fully convinced Mitch mcconnelly's well. And what's important is, you know,
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell just doesn't fit in with today's Republican party.
Speaker 1: It has left him behind. He's a he's a relic.
Speaker 1: He is part of the past and the party's changing. No,
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's a complete relic of the Republican
Speaker 1: Party that no longer exists. That he's far more concerned.
Speaker 1: He's very myopic on what goes on. He wants to
Speaker 1: be in charge of the GOP Caucus, inside of the U. S. Senate,
Speaker 1: everything else, in my my estimation having observed him, his details.
Speaker 1: But the thing that concerns me, Lisa is we all
Speaker 1: know that if Mitch McConnell is not leader, and nobody
Speaker 1: else steps up, you're stuck with a John Cornan or
Speaker 1: a John Thune, who I would argue, aren't a whole
Speaker 1: lot better, maybe even worse than Mitch McConnell. I think
Speaker 1: John Corner would be worst because at least Mitch McConnell
Speaker 1: doesn't believe in today's Republican Party, but he at least
Speaker 1: can fight, whereas John Cornan, as we saw, sell us
Speaker 1: out with this an amendment. Yeah, so I agree, I
Speaker 1: don't trust. I think he's a nice guy, but he's
Speaker 1: just not right. And that's the point is we've seen,
Speaker 1: you know, you've been witnessed, you've been part of it,
Speaker 1: this massive realignment in American politics or the Republican Party
Speaker 1: is now the party of the working class, you know,
Speaker 1: the leftists, the coastal elite. What do you think this
Speaker 1: election means for that continued evolution of the parties in
Speaker 1: realignment I have. This has been one of my arguments,
Speaker 1: you know, coming into obviously in the primaries, which so
Speaker 1: s Lisa, when I do American Majority trainings, which is
Speaker 1: an entity I started roun. I always remind people a
Speaker 1: couple of things. Politics is policy, but a party is
Speaker 1: what people say it is. And the people who say
Speaker 1: what it is are those that show up and win
Speaker 1: in primaries and show but conventions. And I think this
Speaker 1: thing Donald Trump did this year, which I wholeheartedly applauded,
Speaker 1: is that he went into primaries and made sure that
Speaker 1: he endorsed the strongest America First candidate and heavily contested
Speaker 1: races to make sure that candidate won. And so if
Speaker 1: America First candidates are winning Republican primaries, you begin to
Speaker 1: change the complexion of the Republican Party. It will still
Speaker 1: say Republican on the storefront, but the essence will completely change.
Speaker 1: And I think you started to really see something change
Speaker 1: this year, in which obviously Donald Trump was the beginning
Speaker 1: of it. But he's continued in in which the Republican
Speaker 1: Party's essence is is truly changing to more of America First.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen just because of one election, though
Speaker 1: I would remind people this will take multiple elections, multiple primaries,
Speaker 1: but even more so, and I've told Trump this, it's
Speaker 1: one thing for America First candidates to win primaries. Now
Speaker 1: you've got to seal the deal. They've got to win
Speaker 1: the general. And when they win the general, then they
Speaker 1: become the standard bears for the Republican Party as America
Speaker 1: First candidates quick commercial break more than ned Ryan Well.
Speaker 1: And of course we were told that they weren't going
Speaker 1: to win the general election. But now Carry Lake looks dynamite.
Speaker 1: In Arizona, Blake Masters looks like he's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: pull it off. Oz looks like he's going to pull
Speaker 1: it off. I talked to my former boss we just
Speaker 1: had on, Chris Wilson of w p A Intelligence. He
Speaker 1: thinks Masterrano is going to pull it off. In Pennsylvania's
Speaker 1: you've got a lot of these guys. The media said, Hey,
Speaker 1: bad Or J. D Vance is looking really good. He's
Speaker 1: gonna win Ohio and so you have all these candidates
Speaker 1: to the media, was like, Oh, they're too far to
Speaker 1: the right, they're not gonna win. They look like they're
Speaker 1: gonna win. Then yeah, And I would also remind people,
Speaker 1: you know, we've been focused a lot on the federal races.
Speaker 1: Obviously it's hugely important House and Senate. The goubernort Toil races,
Speaker 1: to me are really fascinating. Lisa, you mentioned carry Lake.
Speaker 1: I do think she's going to win. You know, in Arizona,
Speaker 1: the dynamic is I think we could sweep all the statewides,
Speaker 1: not only the goodnatorial but Secretary State Attorney General sleep
Speaker 1: Blake in the Senate. I think we could pick up
Speaker 1: three state House seats and three state Senate seats in Arizona.
Speaker 1: But then you moved to Nevada, you moved to Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 1: These are some really key battleground states for the presidential
Speaker 1: and a lot of these states, like Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania,
Speaker 1: you have Republican majorities in the state legislature. What you've
Speaker 1: been lacking is a Republican governors who actually signed into
Speaker 1: law election reform. For example, in Michigan, Wittmer Vito thirty
Speaker 1: nine election integrity bills just this last year. If you
Speaker 1: had a Tutor Dixon winning and you pass those thirty
Speaker 1: nine election bills, I think you're going to clean up
Speaker 1: a lot of the questions that we have post well.
Speaker 1: And also like maybe let's just try to get the
Speaker 1: elections done night of you know, so people can actually
Speaker 1: have faith in what's going on. This to me is
Speaker 1: an utter shame that the American election system is so
Speaker 1: wildly dysfunctional that we have done things, We are doing
Speaker 1: things in this country that many countries and other parts
Speaker 1: of the world left behind long ago. I continue to
Speaker 1: remind people France in nineteen seventy five banned mail in ballots,
Speaker 1: why because of the massive amount of fraud that was
Speaker 1: taking place with mail in ballots. Most of the world
Speaker 1: does not use electronic voting machines. I mean, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of different things that we should be doing. The
Speaker 1: thing that I love about Florida, where I know you're
Speaker 1: at Leasta, are their election laws in which they start
Speaker 1: counting if I'm if I remember correctly, all mail in
Speaker 1: ballots three days before election day and then on election
Speaker 1: day are counting election day votes, so that the third
Speaker 1: largest state in the Union can actually announce the results
Speaker 1: by call it ten or eleven o'clock on election day.
Speaker 1: That's how every state should be doing it. Start counting
Speaker 1: your mail in ballots three days before so that by
Speaker 1: late on election day you can actually announced results. However,
Speaker 1: we all know the Left doesn't want to do that.
Speaker 1: They want to have upwards of ten days after election
Speaker 1: day to make sure they get enough votes to get
Speaker 1: the results they want. Well, and to your point, I mean,
Speaker 1: what's going on in your state, your governor, secretary, state
Speaker 1: of change. That's probably way more important than these federal elections,
Speaker 1: to be honest. One, to your point, to prevent the
Speaker 1: tom foolery that we saw in elections, but also just
Speaker 1: to stand up to this over aggressive federal government that
Speaker 1: just continues to grow and corporations, to actually make federalism
Speaker 1: a real thing again. Yeah, how about that? That is
Speaker 1: actually a real part of what the founders envisioned for
Speaker 1: our constitutional republic that all powers not granted and they
Speaker 1: were very limited powers granted to the national government were
Speaker 1: to be given to the state government. And all we've
Speaker 1: been doing over the last hundred years has been consolidating
Speaker 1: power into d C but you need guys like Ron
Speaker 1: De Santis and others who are gonna say, Nope, that's
Speaker 1: not your right to do that. We're not going to
Speaker 1: give you that power. In fact, we're going to clause
Speaker 1: that power back. But I love it even more, Lisa.
Speaker 1: I mean, just even with this ridiculous c d C,
Speaker 1: all the kids are going to get as part of
Speaker 1: their school immunization schedule, the COVID, which isn't really even
Speaker 1: a vaccine by the way, the COVID vaccine shot. I
Speaker 1: mean the fact that every I think every Republican governor
Speaker 1: needs to make it very clear, if they haven't already,
Speaker 1: we will not let this happen inside of our state.
Speaker 1: And that's another way to stand up and say no,
Speaker 1: we're not going to let d C or these I
Speaker 1: think corrupt institutions dictate to us. It's not your right,
Speaker 1: it's all right, and we're not gonna let it happen.
Speaker 1: But it also seems like Republicans are growing a spy.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously I'm a huge fan of my governor,
Speaker 1: Governor De Santis here one you know what or Secretary
Speaker 1: of Health did by or the surgeon general here putting
Speaker 1: out a study actually looking at the vaccine saying you
Speaker 1: know what, actually there's a lot of real concerns for
Speaker 1: young men and what it does to their heart and cardia.
Speaker 1: But just really standing up to the media, standing up
Speaker 1: for what is right, standing up for freedom, and it's worked.
Speaker 1: I mean, he probably could win by double digits here
Speaker 1: in Florida, which would be heard of, so you can
Speaker 1: have a spine and still went over the middle, went
Speaker 1: over the middle well. And I think the other thing too,
Speaker 1: that's going to play into this year. I do think
Speaker 1: the Santists is going to win by double digits. I
Speaker 1: think it's going to remove Florida from battleground status for
Speaker 1: I don't think Democrats are going to be able to
Speaker 1: consider Florida a battleground state, not only because of what
Speaker 1: Ron will do this year in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: but now he's put a lot of time and effort
Speaker 1: into boosting Republican registration. I now I think instead of
Speaker 1: being down whatever it was a hundred and fifty or
Speaker 1: whatever it was in two or something like that, there's
Speaker 1: been a massive switch like that was even like a
Speaker 1: month ago, I haven't or there like a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago or something. So it's got to be. I'd
Speaker 1: have to check in with my friends over there, but
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it's significant to your point. But think about
Speaker 1: the fact that Trump won Florida by three and a
Speaker 1: half points in when when Democrats held a six figure
Speaker 1: advantage in registration. So this all leads into I just
Speaker 1: don't think Florida is going to be a battleground states,
Speaker 1: which frees up our resources to play in other states.
Speaker 1: Do you worry about any of these libertarian candidates on
Speaker 1: the ballot and some of these critical races, I think
Speaker 1: like Arizona has one, Georgia, you know, will they be spoilers?
Speaker 1: My concern is there is the potential maybe in some
Speaker 1: of these statewides that are close, for them to be
Speaker 1: potential spoilers. I have to tell you, you you know, it's
Speaker 1: not one of the things I've really hammered on, but
Speaker 1: it is a complete and utter failure by the RNC
Speaker 1: to have not made sure that there's a Green Party
Speaker 1: candidate on the ballot and a lot of these states,
Speaker 1: And knowing how the R and T used to operate
Speaker 1: back in the day, I can tell you they put
Speaker 1: a time, a lot of time and money and resources
Speaker 1: into actually making sure that a Green Party candidate made
Speaker 1: the ballot, and if you look now, I would argue
Speaker 1: in most states there's there's not a Green Party candidates
Speaker 1: on the ballot, which is a shame. And we all
Speaker 1: know that the Libertarians will for the most part, not always,
Speaker 1: but for the most part takeaway Republican votes. So I
Speaker 1: would blame the r and C for not doing what
Speaker 1: they should have done, um, you know, coming into which
Speaker 1: is also frustrating because you know, you look at what
Speaker 1: happened heading into and they weren't really prepared for any
Speaker 1: of that either. So it's like, what are you guys
Speaker 1: doing over there? You know? I mean, I've got I
Speaker 1: know people over there who do go work, but it's
Speaker 1: just like, come on, you know, we need you know,
Speaker 1: you and I both have serious questions about how some
Speaker 1: of the resources are being used or not used at
Speaker 1: the r and C. But uh, you know, hopefully those
Speaker 1: things will change as we move forward and and maybe
Speaker 1: just maybe, you know, the RNC will be run by
Speaker 1: a true America first person um in the next Republican administration. Well,
Speaker 1: and also I think people we all need to be
Speaker 1: paying as much attention to this stuff as we possibly can,
Speaker 1: because we We've seen what has taken place in this
Speaker 1: country over the past two years. I mean, they are
Speaker 1: hell bent on destroying this country, burning it to the ground,
Speaker 1: and throwing us all in jail. So it's like it's
Speaker 1: a little bit more important, you know that we are
Speaker 1: to talk about tax cuts or medicare or whatever else,
Speaker 1: like this is really important. Yeah. No, this is the
Speaker 1: one thing that I you know, I see the Mike
Speaker 1: Pences of the world out there, and I'm thinking, you
Speaker 1: live in a world that doesn't exist anymore. I think
Speaker 1: he's stuck in two thousand six. And that's probably being generous.
Speaker 1: It feels like he's running on nighties zombie Reaganism, Like, bro,
Speaker 1: this world doesn't exist anymore, that party doesn't exist. We
Speaker 1: want people that will actually stand up inside of the
Speaker 1: Republican Party. And first of all, Lisa, reject the premise.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that more Republicans
Speaker 1: have to do, whether it's dealing with the corporate propagandists,
Speaker 1: whether it's dealing with maybe the CDC or all these No,
Speaker 1: you know what, I reject your premise. And until you
Speaker 1: prove without a doubt that somehow what you're saying to
Speaker 1: me is the truth. I don't believe you. Uh and
Speaker 1: and even more so, if you're gonna come at me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go right back at you. And that's why
Speaker 1: you know Donald Trump run to Santa's, Blake Masters, JD,
Speaker 1: all these people that are coming and rising up through
Speaker 1: the America First Movement, It's about time we had more
Speaker 1: of this, and hopefully we're going to see a lot
Speaker 1: more of it moving forward. Well, I'm glad you said
Speaker 1: that because I actually had a question I wanted to
Speaker 1: ask you in regard to that. And then, uh so
Speaker 1: Tucker last night did a segment about carry Lake, uh
Speaker 1: talking about how awesome she is because she is, but
Speaker 1: talking about how you know, she's really good at just
Speaker 1: dismissing these false premises. Trump was amazing at it to
Speaker 1: Santa's is really good. He you know, he's been incredibly
Speaker 1: successful doing the same thing as well. Do you think
Speaker 1: have have we been able to de legitimate delegitimize legacy
Speaker 1: media with us? I think that approached sinuing the trends.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you saw that, I think it's even
Speaker 1: The Washington Post was asked asked the question, I don't
Speaker 1: think they expected this answer. What do you think is
Speaker 1: the greatest threat to democracy, and I think fifteen nine percent,
Speaker 1: if I'm remembering erectly said, the greatest threat to our
Speaker 1: democracy is is basically an illegitimate corporate media. So I
Speaker 1: think the American people are starting to realize more and mora,
Speaker 1: although I don't think. First of all, let me be
Speaker 1: very clear, the corporate propagandists still have undue influence in
Speaker 1: so many different ways. Although I'm really starting to see
Speaker 1: the trends over the last six years of their own volition,
Speaker 1: from their own behavior, they are delegitimizing theirselves. And then
Speaker 1: what Donald Trump and carry Lake and Rhonda Santis and
Speaker 1: others have been doing is just highlighting and pointing it
Speaker 1: out to the American people, to show the lies, to
Speaker 1: show the fake news, to show the false narratives that
Speaker 1: a lot of the corporate propagandists want to push. Because
Speaker 1: I don't think, Lisa, they have most of them do
Speaker 1: not have any desire and actually talking about the truth
Speaker 1: and actually talking about facts. They're out there to drive
Speaker 1: and amplify a narrative that they find beneficial for themselves
Speaker 1: and their allies and the Democratic Party. Well, of course
Speaker 1: they're They're all liars, right, they slant or they smear,
Speaker 1: they lie, you know, they're all You've dealt with them.
Speaker 1: I've dealt with them. I have noticed, and I think
Speaker 1: this is an end result of having what I call
Speaker 1: indoctrination centers of higher learning, in which a lot of
Speaker 1: those that have come out of you know, the university
Speaker 1: and college system have been taught what to think, not
Speaker 1: how to think. Critical plane isn't In short, supply, I
Speaker 1: would argue, and again this might sound harsh, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say it anyway, I would argue that the average
Speaker 1: i Q for the corporate propagandas has dropped considerably over
Speaker 1: the last few years. Well, you're right, they don't critically
Speaker 1: think anymore at all. Like even on vaccines, they're just like,
Speaker 1: go out and get it. And I'm like, there's just
Speaker 1: no questions about, Oh, maybe we should have questions about
Speaker 1: why M or and A vaccines have been to the
Speaker 1: market like this before. Maybe we should raise the point
Speaker 1: that most vaccines have five to ten years like just
Speaker 1: no no questions, just go out and get it. And
Speaker 1: if you don't get it, you're an anti vaxxer and
Speaker 1: you're evil and you want to kill Grandma or even
Speaker 1: or even more so, you know what the Steel dossier
Speaker 1: reads like basically the National Enquirer. Maybe maybe it's not true.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should actually ask questions, where did this come from?
Speaker 1: Is it legitimate? Does any of this actually make sense?
Speaker 1: Or is this just some basically fake dossier filled with
Speaker 1: sensational information that's meant to try and take down the
Speaker 1: duly elect the President United States. And not only were
Speaker 1: some not asking the question, I think many probably did
Speaker 1: realized it was fake and continue to push it and
Speaker 1: hope they take out Donald Trump. Well, and it matters
Speaker 1: and and one. And what they did to to Donald
Speaker 1: I mean, they robbed him of a lot of opportunities,
Speaker 1: and he still was able to be really successful. But
Speaker 1: you know that does take a lot out of you
Speaker 1: if you're pushing back and having to spend all this
Speaker 1: time on that. Yeah. No, I remind people, for four years,
Speaker 1: even for longer than four years before he was even
Speaker 1: sworn in, Donald Trump was under NonStop, relentless attack meant
Speaker 1: to really take him out. What he was able to
Speaker 1: accomplish in those four years, though, is nothing short of incredible.
Speaker 1: Knowing the real dynamics of what he was having to
Speaker 1: deal with on a day to day basis. So just
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely incredibly what he was able to accomplish.
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, if if he had not
Speaker 1: been under attack, if obviously this whole COVID lockdown ridiculousness
Speaker 1: hadn't happened, if the corporate propagandist hadn't gone at him
Speaker 1: as strongly as they did, I think you would have
Speaker 1: won re election Handling. I think we'd be in a
Speaker 1: much much different, much better place as the country. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean we they basically try to burn down the country.
Speaker 1: I mean it really is if who knows how many
Speaker 1: illegal immigrants have entered this nation since the beginning. But
Speaker 1: you know what's really said to me too, as you
Speaker 1: see the media lie on just really important things like
Speaker 1: one cheerleading us into a war with Russia or secondly
Speaker 1: telling us that there's no big deal if you change
Speaker 1: a child's gender, which obviously can't happen you are what
Speaker 1: God made you. Or you know, there's no ramifications of
Speaker 1: cutting a little boy's pianist off, or giving a little
Speaker 1: girl a double homosectomy, or giving kids puberty blockers which
Speaker 1: is irreversible, Like just no critical thinking with that or
Speaker 1: just taking a moment and being like, what are we
Speaker 1: doing to an entire generation of kids? I I I think, well,
Speaker 1: first of all, I've called the transgender movement Luciferian, in
Speaker 1: which it is people standing up and saying, I shall
Speaker 1: be like God. I will turn a boy into a
Speaker 1: girl and a girl into a boy. I will be
Speaker 1: as God and do as I please. It's very Luciferian
Speaker 1: and it's it's approach. But I will say this, I
Speaker 1: think that it is causing a massive backlash. So in
Speaker 1: Virginia last year, obviously Glenn Uncan wins in a state
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden, by the way, one by ten points.
Speaker 1: The year before, Glenn Yuncan wins by two twelve point swing.
Speaker 1: A lot of that started at the school board level,
Speaker 1: the parents revolt against some of the transgenderism, the critical
Speaker 1: race theory, some of the awful, awful books that are
Speaker 1: being put into school curriculum. The interesting thing I've seen
Speaker 1: Li said, So, not only do I think that influence
Speaker 1: how Virginia went last year, I think we might be
Speaker 1: seeing some of this stuff happening in other places, like,
Speaker 1: for example, Michigan in Dearborn, Michigan. In the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks, Muslims and Christians have united to go after
Speaker 1: local school boards over their woke curriculum, and I think
Speaker 1: that could influence the gubernatorial race up there and help
Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon, and I would remind people, dearborn Michigan is
Speaker 1: sev Democrat, So this isn't about parties. This is about
Speaker 1: concerned parents, whether they're Democrats, independent, Republicans of all faith,
Speaker 1: all creeds, saying we're not going to allow you to
Speaker 1: push this truly demented and sick worldview onto our children.
Speaker 1: We're gonna push back. And I think Republicans are absolutely
Speaker 1: right and should be doing more of its standing up
Speaker 1: and saying we will be working on your behalf. We
Speaker 1: will defend your rights as parents to decide what is
Speaker 1: being taught schools. And the more Republicans do that, the
Speaker 1: more victories they're going to see. Well, at that point,
Speaker 1: Chris Wilson, who had interviewed with w p A Intelligence
Speaker 1: the poster there, he said that the biggest movement they've
Speaker 1: seen has been with independent women for the very reasons
Speaker 1: that you just laid out. And I think we could
Speaker 1: see some really interesting things on No. EM eight with
Speaker 1: voters that like typically would be like, I can't deal
Speaker 1: with the Republican Party, who are like, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna you know, we're going to go for this
Speaker 1: this time considering the alternative. Yeah, I totally agree. I
Speaker 1: think this is how you went back suburban moms, especially
Speaker 1: on the transgender issue. I can tell you you know
Speaker 1: where I'm out in Western Loudon County, Virginia. You know,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of parents that spent a lot
Speaker 1: of time and money and effort on their daughter's athletic careers,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of them have started to realize,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, if this transgender movement continues to accelerate,
Speaker 1: my daughter has absolutely no letic future. So I think
Speaker 1: I think it's been kind of a startling wake up
Speaker 1: call in which they realize, if I truly care about
Speaker 1: my daughter in her future, I've got to find somebody
Speaker 1: that's actually going to help me fight against this transgender
Speaker 1: movement and push back. Well, it's not the Democratic Party,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that much there are. They have bought
Speaker 1: in their wholesale for it. It's the Republican Party that's
Speaker 1: standing up and saying, hey, we're not gonna let let
Speaker 1: this happen. And that's why I think you can win
Speaker 1: back a lot of suburban families by standing up on
Speaker 1: the transgender issue. Yeah. I mean, I played phild hockey
Speaker 1: and lacrosse in high school in Virginia, and my parents
Speaker 1: would be up in arms if if because it's just
Speaker 1: totally unfairly like. But but like you said, probably would
Speaker 1: disagree with Republicans on at least half of the issues,
Speaker 1: maybe probably even more, especially up here in western Lavan County.
Speaker 1: But on this issue, it's kind of like, what's what's
Speaker 1: more important my daughter's future or whatever other issue, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna say it's my daughter's future. That's why I
Speaker 1: think even though it might be you know, disagreement on
Speaker 1: the majority of issues, they're gonna probably back Republicans on
Speaker 1: this issue along. So I mean, I was telling Donald
Speaker 1: Trump in this is a great wedge issue in the
Speaker 1: suburban areas. Wish he had played it up a little
Speaker 1: bit more. But I think Glenn Yuncan and others have
Speaker 1: really fully understood Yeah we should actually because of what
Speaker 1: we're normal saying human beings for starters, But there's a
Speaker 1: real opportunity here just to simply stand up and say
Speaker 1: we're not gonna let this happen quick break more with ned.
Speaker 1: It was just so interesting too, because we saw people
Speaker 1: take COVID lying down not you know, not everyone right
Speaker 1: like there were you know, we were fighting it and
Speaker 1: calling attention to all the lies that we were being told.
Speaker 1: But a lot of people really just took it. They accepted, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't I gotta close my business or and I
Speaker 1: you know, and I didn't get it, but like or
Speaker 1: I have to stay home, or I have to wear
Speaker 1: a mask or have to do this or that. And
Speaker 1: then it was like the second they started realizing their
Speaker 1: kids were being negatively impacted, that was when people started
Speaker 1: making some noise, you know, absolutely right. I remember this
Speaker 1: was probably March. I didn't to be honestly, so I
Speaker 1: didn't mind the first two weeks because again a lot
Speaker 1: of us are like, what's going on? Is this you know,
Speaker 1: the second coming of the Black Death, you know, the
Speaker 1: Black Plague. After two weeks, though, I mean, I really
Speaker 1: made this is how I came to the conclusion this
Speaker 1: is nowhere near what I think it is, what people
Speaker 1: think it is. I made the argument of somebody who
Speaker 1: was texting me, who probably people would recognize the name.
Speaker 1: Very conservative said what's up with all your boomer tweets
Speaker 1: on COVID, and I responded to him and said, you know,
Speaker 1: I have come to the conclusion that as the d
Speaker 1: o J and the FBI had become heavily politicized and
Speaker 1: heavily weaponized, I believe that the CDC and the n
Speaker 1: i H, who are all part of the same administrative state,
Speaker 1: have also become heavily politicized and heavy weaponized, heavily weaponized.
Speaker 1: And I reject the premise. I don't think that they
Speaker 1: are actually really First of all, I don't think they
Speaker 1: know what they're doing. And second of all, I don't
Speaker 1: trust them. And quite frankly, that was March of and
Speaker 1: I think everything else has been We've been proven right
Speaker 1: those of us that were standing up early he said,
Speaker 1: we don't believe you. We reject the premise. You know,
Speaker 1: I think it's horrifying. I mean, as you were alluding
Speaker 1: to earlier, the Florida Surgeon General saying between what eighteen
Speaker 1: and thirty five for young men increases massively and staggering, staggering,
Speaker 1: and now fives are coming out and saying, yeah that
Speaker 1: that shot really doesn't stop transmission. I mean, it's horrifying
Speaker 1: the social experiment that took place of the last two
Speaker 1: and a half years. And I wish more people had
Speaker 1: stood up and said, now, I'm a free born American,
Speaker 1: I don't believe you, so no, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: submit to this. Well, it's really twisted, as they originally
Speaker 1: at the very very beginning said they didn't test for
Speaker 1: stopping transmission, and that wasn't really the consideration, and then
Speaker 1: along the way they changed their tune. And I don't
Speaker 1: I personally think it's because they realized that young and
Speaker 1: healthy people would not get it unless they could shame
Speaker 1: them into thinking of some sort of public good that
Speaker 1: they were doing. Yeah, absolutely insane. It almost felt like
Speaker 1: a dry run of something like, how how much, how many,
Speaker 1: how what center to the population can we just get
Speaker 1: to submit to this, even though we really haven't given
Speaker 1: him a whole lot of justification for doing this. Then,
Speaker 1: I have to tell you a little disturbing how much
Speaker 1: of American society was like, oh, that's great, Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: just lock down, let's damage our kids future, let's destroy
Speaker 1: small businesses, let's put ourselves into an economic situation. All
Speaker 1: of this that took place in America's like, yeah, it's fine, sure,
Speaker 1: we believe you. Like again goes back to whatever happened
Speaker 1: to critical thinking, like you know what, I'm gonna look
Speaker 1: at these facts. I'm gonna look at these statistics. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have a conversation and use common sense. And then
Speaker 1: when you go through that process, you like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I don't believe you. Oh my god that I saw
Speaker 1: this video on Twitter. I don't remember who posted it,
Speaker 1: who did it, but it's this guy in a mask.
Speaker 1: It looked like they're in New York and people are
Speaker 1: entering a building and he has a lit roller and
Speaker 1: he and all these people walk up. If people haven't
Speaker 1: seen the video, so he's like basically pretending like he's
Speaker 1: security at the door entrance. The people come up, he
Speaker 1: gets them to open their arms and he lit rolls
Speaker 1: them and then he lets them walk and nobody asks
Speaker 1: a question that to me was like didn't you think
Speaker 1: it was kind of weird that somebody standing at the
Speaker 1: front door lent rolling you and nobody based off that
Speaker 1: video even bother to ask what are you doing? Why
Speaker 1: are you doing this to me? And like what what
Speaker 1: role of authority do you have that gives you the
Speaker 1: right to actually do this. Nobody asked a question, they
Speaker 1: just submitted to it. This is we kind of created
Speaker 1: a We really have created a society of zombie sheep
Speaker 1: that they're just kind of going through the motions and
Speaker 1: it goes, it goes back to this hole. And again,
Speaker 1: this is a longer topic, we won't have to delve
Speaker 1: too much into it. But we really have allowed our
Speaker 1: public education system to become indoctrination centers where it's you're
Speaker 1: taught what to think, not how to think, and you
Speaker 1: have to just just accept what you're being taught, but
Speaker 1: you're not really learning how to think critically on any level.
Speaker 1: And so it creates a zombie sheet mentality of well,
Speaker 1: this is a this is an authority, this is an
Speaker 1: educated elite, this is somebody who's an expert, and if
Speaker 1: they whatever they say must be true. So I could
Speaker 1: completely shut off my mind. I do not even think
Speaker 1: about and examine what they've said. I just accepted because
Speaker 1: I've been told the experts are the oracles, they will
Speaker 1: tell us the truth, They're only there for our good, etcetera, etcetera,
Speaker 1: which is nothing but a lie. I wonder how much
Speaker 1: social media has played into all of that because I
Speaker 1: believe it's the public shame that people have. I think
Speaker 1: with social media, becomes so accustomed to winning likes and
Speaker 1: to wanting to be accepted by like the larger population
Speaker 1: in a way that you didn't before because you had
Speaker 1: smaller sort of communities and you know, you're exposed to
Speaker 1: a smaller group of people, and so I think it's
Speaker 1: sort of created this like social contagion. Everyone's afraid of
Speaker 1: being shamed or called names. I have to be like
Speaker 1: everyone else in a way that maybe we didn't have
Speaker 1: before in society. I would agree. I mean, first of all,
Speaker 1: I think it be better if most American people were
Speaker 1: simply unafraid of whatever they were being called. I've been
Speaker 1: called everything in the book. I mean, I've been called
Speaker 1: a racist, which is not even close to being the truth.
Speaker 1: But don't be afraid of what you're gonna be called.
Speaker 1: Speak to truth. So that's an important step. But on
Speaker 1: on big tech, I gotta tell you, I mean, I
Speaker 1: I love Twitter. Don't get me wrong, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: addicted to it. If if you guys follow me on Twitter,
Speaker 1: I'm on Twitter way too much. It's not really a
Speaker 1: positive thing for our society that Twitter and Facebook and
Speaker 1: Instagram and TikTok and snap and all these other things
Speaker 1: have such a large role in our society and it's troubling, Lisa.
Speaker 1: And this is why I've I've argued for years we
Speaker 1: need to break the monopolies up. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: if you believe in a free market mentality in which
Speaker 1: competition leads to the best products for individual people, you
Speaker 1: can't have that when monopolies dominate the marketplace like Google,
Speaker 1: like Amazon, like Apple even We've got to the thing
Speaker 1: that Republicans need to do moving full award is take
Speaker 1: a strong stance on on big tech and say we're
Speaker 1: not gonna We're not gonna let you continue in your
Speaker 1: current state, because I do think that they are an
Speaker 1: existential threat to the future of the Republic for so
Speaker 1: many different reasons. And I think it's only above break
Speaker 1: up the monopolies, remove Section to thirty exemptions, all of
Speaker 1: these things. But if we allow big tech to remain
Speaker 1: as it is now and continue on the trajectory that
Speaker 1: it is, uh, it will not end well. I totally
Speaker 1: agree that I could talk to you forever. Unfortunately, have
Speaker 1: a flight to New York's. But we're only criminals are
Speaker 1: allowed to have guns, so is there? Yeah? This has
Speaker 1: been so much fun, really smart conversation as always you
Speaker 1: always are ever every time I see you on it
Speaker 1: and talk to you. So I appreciate you joining. Anything
Speaker 1: else you want to leave us with before we go? Uh,
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for coming on. It was great to
Speaker 1: catch up. Thanks Lisa, Okay, I have a great day
Speaker 1: you too. Than Brian, founder and CEO of American Majority,
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Speaker 1: but I literally have to get to go get a
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