1
00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,160
Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. Well, good morning,

2
00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:12,080
Speaker 1: good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, buddy.

3
00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:12,520
Speaker 2: That's right.

4
00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,000
Speaker 1: We are the fellas. He Chason fits On, Anthony Gargan

5
00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:21,880
Speaker 1: and yes we are live yoah from the tyrak dot

6
00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,480
Speaker 1: com studios. Tyrack dot com were up me get there

7
00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,400
Speaker 1: on Matt selection, fast free shipping, free roadhats protection, over

8
00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:32,400
Speaker 1: ten thousand recommended installers, tirerac dot com the way tire

9
00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,479
Speaker 1: buying should be, Fellas.

10
00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,560
Speaker 2: Don't forget. We got some.

11
00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:44,000
Speaker 1: Brackets, yea baby. Starting next Monday is uh we look

12
00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,760
Speaker 1: ahead to the tournament. You could preregister for the Fox

13
00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:52,600
Speaker 1: Sports Radio Bracket Challenge at Fox Sports Radio dot com.

14
00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,080
Speaker 2: Don't miss your chance to win.

15
00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:59,040
Speaker 1: The ultimate college sports trip for you and a friend,

16
00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,040
Speaker 1: brought to you by graduate hotels where college fans stay.

17
00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:06,760
Speaker 2: Going to be awesome.

18
00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:15,080
Speaker 1: So boys, my man Kevin Figures, Jason Fitz, I'm Anthony Gargana.

19
00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,440
Speaker 1: We are the fellas. Every week we are in a

20
00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,240
Speaker 1: big week. Because this is it. Monday at noon begins

21
00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:29,039
Speaker 1: the negotiation period or the tampering period. Wednesday is the

22
00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:34,800
Speaker 1: signing period for free agency in the NFL. Matt at

23
00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,400
Speaker 1: peakway re signs with the Ravens. That's a big deal

24
00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:45,560
Speaker 1: because he they don't go into a franchise tag. The

25
00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:51,800
Speaker 1: big news this week is Ross Ross visits Pittsburgh. So

26
00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,040
Speaker 1: we'll keep you posted on all the free agents, kind

27
00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,440
Speaker 1: of go through a little bit all the rumors because

28
00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,160
Speaker 1: this is when the NFL all season takes shape.

29
00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:02,440
Speaker 2: We had the free agent period.

30
00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:06,960
Speaker 1: Vaka then goes into the draft, then the schedule comes out,

31
00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:12,360
Speaker 1: and then we just wait with baby breath. Good morning, Fitzi,

32
00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,560
Speaker 1: how are you? Oh, I'm wondering if I was on

33
00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:25,560
Speaker 1: the air, I was whether it was me. Do we

34
00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,639
Speaker 1: have Figgy? Could I hear figures?

35
00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,160
Speaker 2: You have fits?

36
00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:33,040
Speaker 3: Speechless there, Anthony. That's what it was, all inspired by

37
00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:33,840
Speaker 3: your It's.

38
00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,480
Speaker 2: Funny, like just a little inside radio.

39
00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:36,720
Speaker 4: Right.

40
00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:42,799
Speaker 1: So, uh, Figgy's in La at the station. I'm in

41
00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:50,280
Speaker 1: home in Philadelphia. FITZI is in Connecticut, spanning the country. Yes, right,

42
00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,919
Speaker 1: and so we are spanning the country, like Figgy says,

43
00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:58,840
Speaker 1: So I'm in my living room and I you know,

44
00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm just imagine, you know, I'm just imagining, like all right,

45
00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,520
Speaker 1: like I hear nothing right, So I don't know, right,

46
00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,000
Speaker 1: Like that's all I'm like. And then mighty marks on

47
00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,400
Speaker 1: my ear going then then I think it's him. I

48
00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,840
Speaker 1: was like, all right, because now big wait, did I

49
00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:18,079
Speaker 1: just speak to nobody fitsing we got you, buddy?

50
00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,040
Speaker 2: Maybe not figure. I don't know, buddy, I don't hear him.

51
00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,120
Speaker 3: I think the grim ones might have gotten the fits here.

52
00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:28,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so. So let me ask you.

53
00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:34,920
Speaker 1: This is always the where the NFL still off season

54
00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:38,760
Speaker 1: takes shape and takes form with some of the free

55
00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,600
Speaker 1: agents and everybody's hopeful, right, Like, this is where teams go,

56
00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:44,960
Speaker 1: all right, well this, I can fix this need here

57
00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,960
Speaker 1: and that NEME here, and then we'll go to the

58
00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,800
Speaker 1: draft and then we can fix other needs, like you know,

59
00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,960
Speaker 1: just for example, where are you at with the Raiders?

60
00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:57,160
Speaker 3: Well, look, it's hard. First of all, you're right, everybody's

61
00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,520
Speaker 3: optimistic at this point in time. The two most optimistic

62
00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:02,760
Speaker 3: point part to the calendar for the NFL or right

63
00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,520
Speaker 3: now before free agency, slash, the draft, and then Opening

64
00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,080
Speaker 3: Day because everybody has hope. And we had that stat

65
00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if it still holds true, but like

66
00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,000
Speaker 3: there's like sixty percent of the end of the playoff

67
00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,800
Speaker 3: teams get flipped every single season. There is a stretch

68
00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,720
Speaker 3: of time on the NFC South and nobody had won

69
00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:19,520
Speaker 3: the division two years in a row for like eleven

70
00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:21,800
Speaker 3: straight years. That might still be going at this point

71
00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,520
Speaker 3: in time, but I'm not one hundred percent sure about that,

72
00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,479
Speaker 3: but it's just crazy, you know, That's just how the

73
00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,000
Speaker 3: sport is built. So as far as I was how

74
00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,000
Speaker 3: the Raiders go at this point in time, the quarterback

75
00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,880
Speaker 3: position is the most intriguing for me because Antonio Pierce

76
00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,599
Speaker 3: said he does not want to stop gap a quarterback,

77
00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,000
Speaker 3: but the long term solution that quarterback isn't necessarily going

78
00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:44,080
Speaker 3: to present itself through the through free agency, whether that's

79
00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:46,200
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson, which will be a stop gap for a

80
00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,160
Speaker 3: couple of years, if you know he's someone that you're

81
00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,480
Speaker 3: interested in bringing in Kirk Cousins. Don't even know if

82
00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,679
Speaker 3: the guy can even walk or run, let alone play quarterback,

83
00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:53,920
Speaker 3: but he's probably going to be one of the more

84
00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,800
Speaker 3: covided guys out there because of his experience level. But

85
00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,760
Speaker 3: outside of that, there's not going to be and there

86
00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,920
Speaker 3: rarely ever is a blockbuster, game changing type of quarterback

87
00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:04,880
Speaker 3: that's going to be available on the free agent market,

88
00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,040
Speaker 3: So you're probably going to have to draft someone and

89
00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,240
Speaker 3: hope against hope that he can come in and be

90
00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,119
Speaker 3: a great contributor as a rookie, which you just can't

91
00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,520
Speaker 3: really count on that. So I guess I'm optimistic as

92
00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:18,960
Speaker 3: a Raider fan, knowing that they finally stuck to their

93
00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,040
Speaker 3: guns with the interim coach that has some success towards

94
00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,080
Speaker 3: the end of last season. He seems to have the

95
00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,919
Speaker 3: right attitude, the players seem to love him. Is just

96
00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:29,080
Speaker 3: getting that quarterback position fixed, and that's the most important

97
00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,320
Speaker 3: position in all of sports. Who that's going to be.

98
00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,440
Speaker 3: I don't know. If it were me, i'd probably wait

99
00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,120
Speaker 3: until the second round, maybe see if I can get

100
00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,039
Speaker 3: a Michael Pennox and maybe try to sign a Russell

101
00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,560
Speaker 3: Wilson or a veteran quarterback to be a bridge guy

102
00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,800
Speaker 3: for a year or two until that guy's ready. That's

103
00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,360
Speaker 3: kind of the plan that I would take. But they

104
00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,040
Speaker 3: have a lot of money to work with and they

105
00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,960
Speaker 3: have a lot of juice behind him, So I'm as

106
00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,040
Speaker 3: optimistic as I've been.

107
00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,760
Speaker 4: I don't think, but guys, I don't think the money

108
00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,839
Speaker 4: we're going to see if technology is WHOA, I don't

109
00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,719
Speaker 4: know what's going on, but I'm gonna say this like,

110
00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,760
Speaker 4: for me, free agency is like Kashick by pass. You

111
00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,920
Speaker 4: can get it and it fixes things for a minute,

112
00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,680
Speaker 4: but you still got to fix your habits in life.

113
00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,320
Speaker 4: You got to go out. You got to draft well.

114
00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,479
Speaker 4: If you really want to win in the NFL, you've

115
00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,160
Speaker 4: got to consistently draft well. So you can go out

116
00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,320
Speaker 4: and spend all the money you want and think that, hey,

117
00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,120
Speaker 4: we're going to get some pieces in here, we're going

118
00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,400
Speaker 4: to try. That'll help you for a minute. But at

119
00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,600
Speaker 4: the end of the day, if you really wanted to

120
00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,160
Speaker 4: make your team sustainably good year in and year out, man,

121
00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,400
Speaker 4: you got to do the work. You got to diet,

122
00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,919
Speaker 4: you got to take care of things, you got to

123
00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,880
Speaker 4: you got to do things this slow and steady way.

124
00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,919
Speaker 4: Part of the reason the Chiefs were so good for

125
00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,440
Speaker 4: so many years, it's not just Mahomes, it's that they

126
00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,479
Speaker 4: didn't miss in the first three rounds of the NFL

127
00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,360
Speaker 4: draft over a five year period, so like, I just think.

128
00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:39,600
Speaker 1: That you have to And then they also had a

129
00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,599
Speaker 1: spectacular draft when they drafted all these d backs.

130
00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,800
Speaker 2: Oh I mean, I mean yeah, I mean that that

131
00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,240
Speaker 2: was the core of their Super Bowl.

132
00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,080
Speaker 3: Or look at the Rams who didn't have a first

133
00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:50,599
Speaker 3: round pick. This will be the first time they've had

134
00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,800
Speaker 3: a first round pick since twenty sixteen. But because they

135
00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,880
Speaker 3: found guys in the third, fourth, fifth round over this

136
00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,160
Speaker 3: last decade, they made it to two super Bowls and

137
00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,760
Speaker 3: won one. That's an excellent point. The way to build

138
00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,160
Speaker 3: is to do the draft.

139
00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,440
Speaker 4: Even if people want to use the rams as well.

140
00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,760
Speaker 4: They didn't need a draft pick. Okay, and you can

141
00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,080
Speaker 4: find brock Purty late in the draft too, It's not

142
00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,240
Speaker 4: gonna happen very often.

143
00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,840
Speaker 2: Like look at me like pookah. Yeah.

144
00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,400
Speaker 3: The point is like being able to find those gyms

145
00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:15,680
Speaker 3: and cultivate those guys.

146
00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,120
Speaker 2: That coach him up.

147
00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,680
Speaker 1: You gotta have an eye like you know, I mean listen,

148
00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:24,480
Speaker 1: you're spittal on you know that. That's why this inexact science.

149
00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,800
Speaker 1: We look at the teams that were that have not

150
00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,160
Speaker 1: done well right like I'm just the Giants come right

151
00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:30,600
Speaker 1: to mind.

152
00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,200
Speaker 2: The Giants just messed up the draft for years.

153
00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:37,920
Speaker 3: Whethern you double down on bad decisions like giving Daniel

154
00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,200
Speaker 3: Jones an extension, right, you you make the the the

155
00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,800
Speaker 3: It's one of those situations where you you have a

156
00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,920
Speaker 3: guy in house and you believe, well, because we drafted him.

157
00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,480
Speaker 3: We have to stick with him. We have belief in

158
00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,640
Speaker 3: him as like no cut bait. If he's not the guy,

159
00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,280
Speaker 3: he's not the guy. Move on and I'll go.

160
00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,960
Speaker 4: Back to free agency. It wasn't that long ago. Remember

161
00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,800
Speaker 4: when people were clamoring the first day of free agency,

162
00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,320
Speaker 4: who is going to get JC Jackson? And then not

163
00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,440
Speaker 4: only was J. C. Jackson let go by the Chargers,

164
00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,600
Speaker 4: now he's been cut by the Patriots. Like it's just

165
00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:09,239
Speaker 4: most times, and Cousin, you know this better than anybody

166
00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,120
Speaker 4: with all the films. Still you do guys hit the

167
00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,880
Speaker 4: street for a reason and miss me with the money

168
00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,520
Speaker 4: part of it, because more often than not, teams can

169
00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,280
Speaker 4: figure out how to kick the can down the road

170
00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:20,800
Speaker 4: if they really want to with the player. So there's

171
00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,480
Speaker 4: the occasional Chris Jones that's gonna come out and you say,

172
00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,480
Speaker 4: oh my god, there's the occasional Christian Wilkins that I

173
00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,600
Speaker 4: think is worth it, right, But most of the time

174
00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,040
Speaker 4: when we're talking about free agency, I hate to be

175
00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:34,760
Speaker 4: the bearer of bad news, but everybody's gonna freak out

176
00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,400
Speaker 4: Monday and Tuesday about why this makes their team better.

177
00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,800
Speaker 4: And if you look back over history, it really kind

178
00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,280
Speaker 4: of doesn't like it might work for right now, but

179
00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,040
Speaker 4: fundamentally your organization needs to nail it at the draft,

180
00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,520
Speaker 4: not this year, not next year, not the year after

181
00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,240
Speaker 4: all of them. And that's a much more daunting thing.

182
00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,560
Speaker 4: I feel like everybody wants to go out and fall

183
00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,720
Speaker 4: in love on their first day at a bar, and

184
00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,920
Speaker 4: that's what That's what free agency in the draft is

185
00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,520
Speaker 4: for one year. It takes to sustainable build relationship with

186
00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,960
Speaker 4: your team to be able to go out and be

187
00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,000
Speaker 4: good for any amount of time.

188
00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, what it is with free agency, you really just

189
00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:07,959
Speaker 3: want to be able to cover up a glaring need

190
00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,000
Speaker 3: or a glaring mistake that you made. If you draft

191
00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,240
Speaker 3: the defensive tackle in the first round three years ago

192
00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,200
Speaker 3: and he just didn't work out, and you have enough

193
00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,280
Speaker 3: money and Christian Wilkins is available, you know what, I'll

194
00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,839
Speaker 3: spend the money that I have to sign that guy

195
00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,360
Speaker 3: because he's a difference maker. But also knowing that it

196
00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:23,560
Speaker 3: can't I can't sacrifice other places on my team to

197
00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,760
Speaker 3: spend so much money on one guy, because one guy's

198
00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,000
Speaker 3: not never gonna make that big of a difference. Where

199
00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,760
Speaker 3: you're talking about a sixty man roster.

200
00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:33,559
Speaker 4: Also, what you're saying that love it, Like, Okay, we'll

201
00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,599
Speaker 4: use the Raiders as an example, because Figgie and I

202
00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,559
Speaker 4: are both huge Raiders fans. Right Like, if you're sitting

203
00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,559
Speaker 4: in a spot where, man, we're just not going to

204
00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,280
Speaker 4: be able to get to the quarterback we want to

205
00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,079
Speaker 4: people in hell on ice water, right Like, we want

206
00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:46,800
Speaker 4: to be able to get up there. We can't get

207
00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,800
Speaker 4: up there. We can't get the quarterback we want. Well,

208
00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,480
Speaker 4: maybe you do decide that you're going to spend huge

209
00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,680
Speaker 4: money on somebody like Wilkins because you look at it

210
00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,080
Speaker 4: and say, at least we can impact the defensive side

211
00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,960
Speaker 4: of the ball to the point that it makes us

212
00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,800
Speaker 4: more competitive while we try and figure out the coquarterback position.

213
00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,600
Speaker 4: But it's just such a it's such a difficult situation

214
00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,040
Speaker 4: when you know what you need, but you know you'

215
00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,640
Speaker 4: might not gonna be able to get the one guy

216
00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,360
Speaker 4: that you really want or the you know, one of

217
00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,640
Speaker 4: the two guys you really want. So then do you

218
00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,280
Speaker 4: spend money elsewhere? Do you get aggressive everywhere else and

219
00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,200
Speaker 4: just hope to God that you can build something around

220
00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,680
Speaker 4: the strengths that you have to make your team a

221
00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,839
Speaker 4: playoff competitor, which at least keeps everybody at Bay long

222
00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:25,960
Speaker 4: enough for you to try and figure out the quarterback position.

223
00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,560
Speaker 4: But I just the concept of what do you do

224
00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,360
Speaker 4: if you need a quarterback and you can't get one.

225
00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,920
Speaker 4: I think does impact what free agency is going to

226
00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:33,280
Speaker 4: look like?

227
00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, that it should. By the way, I'm completely with

228
00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,079
Speaker 1: you what you talk about. And I've had this conversation

229
00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,000
Speaker 1: with personal guys over and over and over again about

230
00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,280
Speaker 1: using it to tweak your roster. Like there's two there's

231
00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,160
Speaker 1: two things you do if you're a playoff team or

232
00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:56,840
Speaker 1: greater like meaning you're a team with aspirations to make

233
00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:00,720
Speaker 1: the playoffs and then you know, try to win something.

234
00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,480
Speaker 1: Then you're looking to go fill needs like you're looking

235
00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:10,000
Speaker 1: to fill your final frontier, your final needs. Otherwise, for me,

236
00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,840
Speaker 1: I use free agency with the first right after the

237
00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,200
Speaker 1: first contract guys, right, they're the guys that I look

238
00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,480
Speaker 1: who are ascending guys from Like a like if I

239
00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,880
Speaker 1: look at a team that's got a stacked, you know,

240
00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:29,480
Speaker 1: linebacker unit, and you got a kid who's young, right,

241
00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:33,680
Speaker 1: who was drafted after the first or second round, and

242
00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:37,960
Speaker 1: I go, wow, he's an ascending player. You know, that's

243
00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,320
Speaker 1: kind of who I would target, Like that kind of

244
00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:46,600
Speaker 1: player is on my radar? Where was this old lineman?

245
00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,080
Speaker 1: A backup, never got a chance to crack a starting unit,

246
00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:54,200
Speaker 1: but it's got a good pedigree, you know, was the

247
00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:56,359
Speaker 1: guy you know switched positions?

248
00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:56,880
Speaker 5: Like?

249
00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,120
Speaker 1: All those things are all factors for me if if

250
00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,079
Speaker 1: I'm a rebuilding team and how I'm going to use

251
00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:02,760
Speaker 1: free agency.

252
00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love the way you said that. Also, I

253
00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,440
Speaker 4: think you got to look at the culture in your

254
00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:09,840
Speaker 4: locker room and ask yourself sometimes, do I need that

255
00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,000
Speaker 4: person that can come in and kick started? Do I

256
00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:14,840
Speaker 4: need that person that can come in and help a

257
00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,079
Speaker 4: young team figure out how to win? There's as much

258
00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,280
Speaker 4: as so many of us roll our eyes to the

259
00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,520
Speaker 4: concept of needing to learn how to win. When I

260
00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,199
Speaker 4: talk to former players, it's amazing how much they do.

261
00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,719
Speaker 4: They can look back at their career and say that

262
00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,120
Speaker 4: guy helped me become a better pro. Right, And so

263
00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,240
Speaker 4: I think some locker rooms just need you know, when

264
00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:36,040
Speaker 4: you think about some of the comments that were made

265
00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,800
Speaker 4: this week by players about what the Cowboys locker room is, like,

266
00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,920
Speaker 4: maybe they need to bring in somebody that can be

267
00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,520
Speaker 4: a little bit more dogmatic. You know, they can come

268
00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,240
Speaker 4: in and be a little bit more of a presence

269
00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,520
Speaker 4: on you know, making sure that things are done the

270
00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,120
Speaker 4: right way. And I think there is some gravitas the

271
00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,959
Speaker 4: guys that have come. You know, wherever Chris Jones walks into,

272
00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,600
Speaker 4: he's going to have some level of oh my god,

273
00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,160
Speaker 4: how many rings and how much you he accomplished? Right

274
00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,600
Speaker 4: Like I think, So, I do think there is value

275
00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,400
Speaker 4: in that for your team. I just think what we're having,

276
00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,720
Speaker 4: particularly this week, you mentioned how many teams have money,

277
00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,520
Speaker 4: how many bad teams have money, And now fan bases

278
00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,240
Speaker 4: are like, yeah, but we're gonna be great next year

279
00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,679
Speaker 4: because we're gonna spend this hundred million dollars. No, you're not.

280
00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:17,680
Speaker 4: Like historically, if you go out and spend all this

281
00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,360
Speaker 4: money on free agency, it's not gonna make you suddenly

282
00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:22,960
Speaker 4: a super Bowl team. It might make you a little

283
00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,480
Speaker 4: better for a minute, but it's not gonna it's not

284
00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,360
Speaker 4: gonna do what most fans can they want it to

285
00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:27,760
Speaker 4: do now.

286
00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:33,280
Speaker 1: And it's so funny I lived for over and over again.

287
00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:38,400
Speaker 1: So but the first kind of Foray was with the

288
00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:45,240
Speaker 1: Eagles team that I cover. This is Andy Reid had

289
00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:49,400
Speaker 1: suffered the loss of his son and he kind of

290
00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,240
Speaker 1: this was we kind of lost the little power in

291
00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,760
Speaker 1: the front office and Joe Banner, who was later on

292
00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,600
Speaker 1: to run the Browns, Joe kind of had more control

293
00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,400
Speaker 1: over free agency and he always had. He always always

294
00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,120
Speaker 1: the cabiologist and like Howie Roseman learned on their under Joe,

295
00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:15,000
Speaker 1: Joe cooks up this. This is amazing. What they called

296
00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,960
Speaker 1: the dream Team. Do you remember this?

297
00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:22,280
Speaker 5: Yes?

298
00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:29,120
Speaker 1: Yes, and people had wild They went out and they

299
00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:34,880
Speaker 1: were spending. I mean you know, it was QVC all day.

300
00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:40,520
Speaker 1: They're just bye bye bye, and it was a complete disaster.

301
00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,200
Speaker 1: It was just a disaster. And the dream Team because

302
00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:50,360
Speaker 1: Vince Young uh named this team and it was funny

303
00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,120
Speaker 1: because it stuck because he was like, oh, this is

304
00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:53,760
Speaker 1: the dream Team.

305
00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:55,600
Speaker 3: He was signed to be a backup too, by the way,

306
00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,600
Speaker 3: people forget that, like he wasn't coming in to be

307
00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:58,280
Speaker 3: the starter.

308
00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:02,640
Speaker 1: Right right, that was still Vic Yeah, like was the

309
00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,479
Speaker 1: starter and it was just an abject failure.

310
00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know what.

311
00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,360
Speaker 3: Also, you know when you're thinking, I brought and I

312
00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,760
Speaker 3: thought about this when Fitz brought up J. C. Jackson,

313
00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,200
Speaker 3: And it fits with Nandy Aasawah too talking about chasing

314
00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,160
Speaker 3: after guys in free agency. So many of these front

315
00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,960
Speaker 3: office types. You know, they get so enamored with the

316
00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,240
Speaker 3: sexy names and the guys who made all these Pro

317
00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,040
Speaker 3: Bowls and they're a great player and they're a hot

318
00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,520
Speaker 3: name to chase after without considering how they fit on

319
00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,600
Speaker 3: their team. Nandiyasawa was a press man guy with the

320
00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,920
Speaker 3: Raiders and was phenomenal at it, and he went to

321
00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:36,480
Speaker 3: Philadelphia at the time that wasn't the style of defense

322
00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,520
Speaker 3: that they played, and he got exposed. And jac Jackson

323
00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:41,600
Speaker 3: when he left New England, which was a press man team,

324
00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,680
Speaker 3: and he came to play for Brandon Staley with the Chargers,

325
00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,560
Speaker 3: and this is before he had an ACL injury which

326
00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,800
Speaker 3: affected him too later on, but they asked him to

327
00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:49,400
Speaker 3: play a lot more his own coverage, and that's not

328
00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:51,880
Speaker 3: something that he thrives at playing, and that's why he struggled.

329
00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,720
Speaker 3: Part of the reason why he struggled so much. And

330
00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,280
Speaker 3: it just amazes me how these guys who get paid

331
00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,440
Speaker 3: so much money and spent so many hours watching so

332
00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:02,040
Speaker 3: much tape in film don't understand the nuance of this

333
00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,240
Speaker 3: guy is a great player because he thrives in a

334
00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,920
Speaker 3: particular system you can't just plug in. Some guys are

335
00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,000
Speaker 3: plugging play and can play in any system. But the

336
00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:10,920
Speaker 3: majority of the guys, and I know you watching tape,

337
00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,120
Speaker 3: you can back me up on this anthony, they thrive

338
00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,280
Speaker 3: because they play in a specific system.

339
00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,960
Speaker 2: Spot on, spot on.

340
00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:22,080
Speaker 1: That's why you always need to, you know, you always

341
00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:26,440
Speaker 1: need to have a great relationship with your coaching staff

342
00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,640
Speaker 1: because the truth of the matter is the personnel. Guys,

343
00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:37,400
Speaker 1: they're not dissected tape the way coaches dissect tape. Like

344
00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,200
Speaker 1: they can look at talent, and you're gonna look at talent,

345
00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:44,600
Speaker 1: and you can seek talent by grinding tape. But the

346
00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,880
Speaker 1: truth of the matter is those coaches, especially the really

347
00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,200
Speaker 1: good ones, the ones that've been around, they see things

348
00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,080
Speaker 1: that's completely different. And when you're looking at all the

349
00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,280
Speaker 1: scheme that they play and all the techniques, like those

350
00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,200
Speaker 1: guys they that's why you have to be able to

351
00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,280
Speaker 1: talk to them. And that's why I like, I'm a

352
00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,439
Speaker 1: big believer in my head, coach has to have his

353
00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:12,719
Speaker 1: own personal guy, personal guy that he trusts that he like, goes, listen,

354
00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,440
Speaker 1: I need this, I need that. You know, I need X,

355
00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,879
Speaker 1: Y and Z and I need to and they have

356
00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,119
Speaker 1: to work seamlessly together.

357
00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,560
Speaker 3: Look at the most the most successful franchises over the

358
00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,680
Speaker 3: last eight years in the league, and all of those

359
00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:27,840
Speaker 3: follow that theory. Whether it's Harball in Baltimore, whether it's

360
00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,000
Speaker 3: Andy Reid in Kansas City, most of these guys who

361
00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,399
Speaker 3: have had success is because the head coach hired the

362
00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,480
Speaker 3: personnel guy and tells them you need to find these

363
00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,720
Speaker 3: sorts of players that fit this sort of scheme. I

364
00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,359
Speaker 3: don't think that's it's a coincidence that the ones Kyle

365
00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,879
Speaker 3: Shanahan and San Francisco the same thing. I don't think

366
00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,400
Speaker 3: it's a coincidence that those are the most successful franchises

367
00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,440
Speaker 3: over the last decade. And that and the biggest example

368
00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,320
Speaker 3: of that was Bill Belichick over the past twenty seasons

369
00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,399
Speaker 3: when he was the head of the Snake had all

370
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,479
Speaker 3: those talent guys, whether it was Pioli or Dimitrov, wherever

371
00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,400
Speaker 3: it was, followed his tune. And that's why they're able

372
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,919
Speaker 3: to be as successful as they were for as long

373
00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:03,440
Speaker 3: as they were.

374
00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,359
Speaker 4: We gotta go to break. But I've got so many

375
00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:08,400
Speaker 4: thoughts on this, Well, we'll hit this more because there's

376
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,120
Speaker 4: there's a there's a ton on this that.

377
00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it that it's fascinating to me. I

378
00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,560
Speaker 1: always love Let's face it, we love team building and

379
00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,200
Speaker 1: no matter what sport's team building so much fun.

380
00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,360
Speaker 2: All right, Uh, where the fellas.

381
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,520
Speaker 1: We're just getting started a fun Saturday morning ahead with

382
00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:31,040
Speaker 1: us and you right here on Fox Sports Radio.

383
00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,159
Speaker 6: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

384
00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,560
Speaker 6: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

385
00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:41,800
Speaker 6: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

386
00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:42,560
Speaker 6: listen live.

387
00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,159
Speaker 7: Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller.

388
00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,760
Speaker 7: Would mean a lot to have you join us on

389
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,399
Speaker 7: our weekly auditory journey. Dress one in God's Name is

390
00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,720
Speaker 7: the Fifth Hour. I'll tell you it's a spin off

391
00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,040
Speaker 7: of it. Ben Mahler Show, Colt hit overnights on FSR.

392
00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,159
Speaker 7: Why should you listen? Picture if you will a world Well.

393
00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,960
Speaker 7: We chat with captains of industry in media, sports and

394
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,720
Speaker 7: more every week explored.

395
00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,280
Speaker 1: Some amazing facts about human nature and more.

396
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,320
Speaker 7: Listen to The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller on the

397
00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,360
Speaker 7: iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

398
00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:20,280
Speaker 1: All right, Welcome back, fellas from the tire iraq dot

399
00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:25,920
Speaker 1: com studios. We had a big guy family party last night.

400
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,719
Speaker 1: So my son Anthony made his confirmation. So he's in

401
00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 1: eighth grade and he got confirmed last night. So we

402
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,880
Speaker 1: went to church and the bishops there and they did

403
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,119
Speaker 1: the whole ceremony, and then we went to the restaurant

404
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:47,239
Speaker 1: and the whole family, you know, was there, and it

405
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 1: was it was weird that I was at the head

406
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:57,280
Speaker 1: of the table. Of course I picked up the check too,

407
00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,920
Speaker 1: but I was at that's how it works. It's like, oh, man,

408
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 1: Like it was funny. My cousin he's like my older brother.

409
00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 1: He says, you got to sit ahead of the table.

410
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, really, I was like, that's usually my father, right.

411
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: He's like, no, you gotta sit there, and I was

412
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 1: like all right. And the uh it was like that.

413
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: There's a great episode of The Sopranos where it's a stormy,

414
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:27,280
Speaker 1: stormy night and they go to their favorite restaurant and

415
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,600
Speaker 1: like and all the people are in there, but their

416
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 1: family's there and like there it's like a port and

417
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,480
Speaker 1: the storm type of thing, and they're they had this

418
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:40,919
Speaker 1: beautiful like evening, you know, food and their loved ones.

419
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 2: And you know, and they see everybody.

420
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 1: It was kind of that kind of vibe and night

421
00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,920
Speaker 1: because you know, and and and Anthony was like the

422
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,120
Speaker 1: toast of the of the party. So you know, it's

423
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 1: nice to see him at the toast of the party.

424
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 4: You never get to walk back being ahead of the

425
00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,000
Speaker 4: table now though, Like once you've done that, that like

426
00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:01,240
Speaker 4: that's that you're you are now the Tony of this

427
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 4: whole equation. Like you are, You're in charge, You're always

428
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 4: ahead of the table. Guy, Like that's that.

429
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 2: Can I tell you that my father father Tony, and

430
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,720
Speaker 2: I'm Anthithy.

431
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 4: No, no, crazy, like that is now it's you are.

432
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 4: You're see, I'm never I'm never going to be head

433
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 4: of the table material even if I'm picking up the check.

434
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 4: My friends know that I shouldn't be at the head

435
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 4: of the table. I won't have something wise to say.

436
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 4: I won't have a way to make everybody, you know,

437
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 4: feel peace or calm. No, I'm just sort of the

438
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 4: energizer bunny in the corner that they're like, yeah, that's

439
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 4: the that's the schmoke picking up the check. Just give

440
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:37,560
Speaker 4: him the Like that's as far as it goes. There's

441
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,919
Speaker 4: no respect when you sit at the head of the table.

442
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,159
Speaker 4: There's immediate respect garnered. Like if you and I walked in,

443
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,040
Speaker 4: I would defer to you and be like, you should

444
00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 4: sit at the head of the table. That's this is

445
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 4: the thing. Now you've got this for the rest of

446
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 4: your life.

447
00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if I want that responsibility.

448
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 4: It's not about what you want, man, And now it's

449
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 4: there like it's you know, this is this is that moment.

450
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 4: You know they always say, if you wait till you're

451
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 4: ready to have kids, you'll never have kids. Well, if

452
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,320
Speaker 4: you're wait till you're ready to sit at the head

453
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 4: of the table, you never sit at the head of

454
00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,479
Speaker 4: the table like it has now been.

455
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: Well something you know.

456
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:14,679
Speaker 3: Sometimes you know, the designation, the responsibility chooses you, you

457
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 3: don't choose it. It's kind of like Michael corleone, you

458
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 3: know what I mean, Yes, don't have a choice.

459
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: Oh, that's fabulous. All roads always go back to that movie,

460
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: of course, especially on this show.

461
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: Come on, especially this show. Yes, Mark, that's great.

462
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: Oh man, all right, fake do me favorite hit us

463
00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: with some trending and then we'll get back into our

464
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:47,480
Speaker 1: free agency time.

465
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 3: All right, Well, I'll start with the NBA a couple

466
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 3: of our really entertaining ones. We'll start with the late

467
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 3: game in Los Angeles. d'An Angelo Russell scoring forty four

468
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,080
Speaker 3: points for the Lakers. They defeated the Bucks one twenty

469
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 3: three to one twenty two. This spite Lebron James missing

470
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: the matchup with an ankle injury. We had a pretty

471
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 3: good one in Cleveland as well, the Cavaliers picking up

472
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: a one thirteen to one oh four overtime victory over

473
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: at Minnesota. Jared Allen thirty three points and eighteen rebounds there.

474
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 3: Darius Garland also had thirty four in that one. Oklahoma

475
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 3: City overcame a ten point halftime deficit. They defeated Miami

476
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 3: one oh seven to one hundred. Shay Yojos Alexander thirty

477
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 3: seven points and six assists. The Nick snap Orlandos five

478
00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 3: game winning streak ninety eight to seventy four. The final

479
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: there victories for New Orleans, Houston, and the Wizard to

480
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 3: snapped a sixteen game losing streak with a victory over

481
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 3: Charlotte College Basketball twenty fifth rank Dayton came back from

482
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 3: a seventeen point deficit to defeat VCU in overtime ninety

483
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: one to eighty six. Boise State a seventy nine to

484
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 3: seventy seven victory over twenty first ranked San Diego State.

485
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: Back to the Fellas all right, that saw Stefellas from

486
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 1: the tire rack dot Com studios talk free Agency, Big Day,

487
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 1: Big It starts from the legal tampering period at noon

488
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,120
Speaker 1: and then it goes into Wednesday. It's the actual startup

489
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:14,360
Speaker 1: signings and all kinds of rumors. Russ goes to Pittsburgh.

490
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 1: Can he visits there?

491
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:16,440
Speaker 2: First?

492
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 1: Run like, what's your guys level of interest with Russell Wilson?

493
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 2: Because I have nil, I had no interest.

494
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,879
Speaker 4: He's washed, he's done, he's not good. He's not a

495
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: starting quarterback in the NFL. And you know this is

496
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 4: I feel like I've been screaming this from the mountaintops

497
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 4: for two years when you know, I was doing radio

498
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,240
Speaker 4: at the time when he was signed, and everybody kept saying,

499
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 4: oh my god, look at the AFC West and I

500
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: just sort of laughed at that. And I think we

501
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 4: have to acknowledge a couple of things here, like Pete

502
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,239
Speaker 4: Carroll objectively, he's not bad at his job, right, So

503
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 4: for a team to decide that they're going to let

504
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 4: a team with a coach that was even at the time,

505
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 4: was you know he was older, right, There wasn't this

506
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 4: long window for the Seahawks to start a massive rebuild.

507
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 4: They were happy doing complete refresh at the quarterback position

508
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 4: and believing that it wouldn't set them back in the process.

509
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 4: I think that had some meaning through all of this.

510
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 4: Plus just washed away. He plays right, So I don't

511
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 4: think anybody was sitting there two years ago even saying,

512
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: oh God, I'm so scared we got to take on

513
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 4: Russ this week. Like it takes a very particular set

514
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 4: of skills to make Russ the best of himself, and

515
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,640
Speaker 4: I think between the concept that teams have to do

516
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 4: that also matched with the concept that he has deteriorated

517
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 4: a little bit in what he does, it just didn't

518
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 4: scare me. And the reason that I thought it was

519
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 4: insane for Sean Payton to take the Broncos job when

520
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: it happened. The reason I kept screaming that at the

521
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 4: time was why would you do that knowing that Russ

522
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 4: is washed and knowing that you're gonna have to pay

523
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: so much money in dead cap it that you're gonna

524
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 4: have to wreck the roster and start a full rebuild,

525
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 4: which guess what is what they're doing. Like if two

526
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 4: respected coaches, whether I believe Sean Payton is brilliant or

527
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 4: not doesn't matter to this. All I'm saying is that

528
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 4: if Pete Carroll and Sean Payton have turned around and

529
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 4: collectively said that they're willing to take over a hundred

530
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 4: million combined to just get rid of a guy, why

531
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 4: do we think he has anything left in the tank.

532
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 4: The Broncos didn't have to cut him. It cost them

533
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 4: no more money to cut him than it would have

534
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: to keep him around in at least try a competition.

535
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 4: They were so willing to not do that that they

536
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 4: were willing to take this massive hit and just pay

537
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 4: for him to walk away. He's got nothing left, he's done.

538
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: Well, here's where it is for me. Okay. So that's

539
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,400
Speaker 3: that's the key for me, because if I just look,

540
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 3: I think I'm separating two different things here. If it's

541
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 3: just the production of the player, no doubt, he is

542
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 3: not the same player he was even four years ago.

543
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: But from a talent standpoint, I can't say that he's

544
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 3: not a starting level quarterback in the NFL because we

545
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 3: saw he has the production to back that up. He

546
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: passed for over three thousand yards sixty six percent completions

547
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 3: twenty six touchdowns, eight picks. In the right situation, just

548
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 3: from a football standpoint, I think he can be a

549
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: viable starter. The issue comes in the locker room situation,

550
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,439
Speaker 3: the fact that he never really was the leader that

551
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 3: we all thought that he was. We had all the

552
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: stories coming out of Seattle his last couple of years

553
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 3: there about how how toxic that environment was, the stories

554
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: of his year, his first year in Denver with his

555
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 3: own private office and all that. Sean Payton came in saying,

556
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 3: we're nipping that in the blood from day one. I

557
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 3: don't think those guys ever clicked from the very beginning.

558
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a talent issue with Russell Wilson.

559
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 3: I think it's between the ears. The talent no longer matches,

560
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 3: the divaness or whatever word you want to use, that

561
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: he still carries with him the sense of entitlement, and

562
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: I think that's what ultimately will turn team's off. It's

563
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 3: not that he can't play, it's that his talent level

564
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: doesn't match up to the level of his ego at

565
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: this point in time, and I think that's ultimately what

566
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 3: ends up hurting him. But I think he's talented enough

567
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 3: to still play I see.

568
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,159
Speaker 4: I totally disagree. I don't think he's talented enough to

569
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 4: play it.

570
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't think he's that Look.

571
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 4: Is he a starting quarterback shirt in a world, you know,

572
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 4: in a world where Ryan Tannehill's probably a starting quarterback shirt,

573
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 4: you know.

574
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 3: He's better than that fits.

575
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think so. I really don't tell him.

576
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 3: He's completing eight passes a game for the sixty seven yards.

577
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 4: I'm telling you. Pete Carroll looked around and said, now,

578
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 4: we're as good with Gino Smith before Gino had some renaissance.

579
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 4: Pete Carroll looked around and said, we're as good with

580
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 4: Gino and that was shocking to everybody at the time.

581
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 4: Like Sean Payton has turned around and said we'll basically

582
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 4: go into this year with no quarterback rather than have

583
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 4: him there. And as much as it's easy to say, well, yeah,

584
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 4: the numbers were good, I would also argue that when

585
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 4: you have supposedly one of the greatest offensive head coaching

586
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: minds that we've seen, yeah, what are they doing? I

587
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 4: mean they were getting rid of the ball quick, they

588
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 4: were getting the ball out of his hands, they were

589
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: finding ways to make him an effective quarterback, but never

590
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 4: at a level that even the Broncos believed in him.

591
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,120
Speaker 4: I mean, Jimmy G put up good numbers with Kyle

592
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: Shanahan too. That doesn't mean the Jimmy G's. I'd rather

593
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 4: have Jimmy G than Russell Wilson next year. I just

594
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: I don't think he can play.

595
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 3: Wow, I wouldn't go that far. I saw, we saw

596
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 3: Jimmy G up close in the place he couldn't win,

597
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: he couldn't make. Not that Russell Wilson is a giant

598
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: step up, but he's a better player. But if we're talking.

599
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 4: About the giant, about Russell boo, about.

600
00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: A locker room situation, I'd much rather have the personality

601
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 3: of a Jimmy G over a personality of Russell Wilson,

602
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: even though I think Russell Wilson's talent is greater than his.

603
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 3: And for that reason is why I wouldn't run Russell

604
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: on my team. But it's not from an ability standpoint,

605
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: because I think he has the physical ability to still

606
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 3: be a viable starting quarterback.

607
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 1: It's so interesting to see what he became. I remember

608
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: loving him at Wisconsin. Right he transferred to North Carolina.

609
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: One of the early portal guys Goes to Wisconsin.

610
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: Has that you know, a great year.

611
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 3: Edible run might be the best quarterback Wisconsin's had in

612
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 3: the last thirty years. And he was there for one season.

613
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the rose ball, the whole thing, and he you know,

614
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: he was.

615
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: He was great, Like you know when he goes to

616
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: when he wins the job and Matt Flynn and the

617
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 1: whole thing, and he wins the job in Seattle and

618
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: I remember like loving them.

619
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 2: And man, I he just went bad.

620
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,280
Speaker 1: I or I guess it was always an in them.

621
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: But it shows you what you need, you know, as

622
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: a leader, like you your quarterback cannot be that guy

623
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: like And then we found out from the Legion to

624
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,719
Speaker 1: Boom that he was that guy. Yeah, frock you Like

625
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: they couldn't stand them. He was a kid stands yet,

626
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: like I always think you have an issue when you

627
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: have an issue with your quarterback, Like when players other

628
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: teammates have an issue with their quarterback.

629
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: It just could never get fixed. Yeah.

630
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 3: Like, For as much heat as people in the media

631
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 3: give Aaron Rodgers for being a weirdo and being a

632
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 3: loof and all that, how many times did you hear

633
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: teammates say negative things about him?

634
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: Rarely?

635
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: Rarely They always said he was a great leader, he

636
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: was a great teammate. Yeah, he was a little bit

637
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: out there, but you knew that he had your back

638
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: and knew he was one of the guys in the

639
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: locker room. And they just those say messages just didn't

640
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 3: come out of Seattle. They never really did, especially after

641
00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 3: they won that first Super Bowl and he started ever

642
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 3: since the let Russ cook stuff started bubbling up five

643
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: six years ago, everything just changed.

644
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: Well it's and you're right, everything changed after So he

645
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: has the initial success, right, and you know it was

646
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: first what five years of his career, Like he's really good,

647
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: and you know, it's similar it was mcknab. He has

648
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: his first like, you know, four years. He's really really good.

649
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: He's terrific. He's the young guy, right, and the veterans

650
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: like liked him. And then when t O came and

651
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 1: it just did not work. The two of them are

652
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: at each other and then there's like a lot of

653
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: resentment from guys on the defense and they didn't like him.

654
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget, Like you know, when guys, when

655
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: there's like something that happens, it just never gets healed.

656
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 2: It's weird.

657
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 4: There's also an element like look in the beginning. We

658
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 4: love an underdog story, so the fact that Russ came

659
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: out and won the job just became such a cool

660
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 4: story for everybody to fall into. The thing that is

661
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 4: interesting to me is, I think Russ the personality has

662
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 4: been fairly consistent for several years. The difference is when

663
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 4: you're winning a bunch of football games, all of this

664
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 4: you know, Broncos country, Let's ride sort of tone that

665
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 4: he's had for years is endearing to people. If you're

666
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 4: out there winning all the time. If your team stops winning,

667
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 4: that's when everybody starts actually caring about it. I think

668
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 4: Russ has been sackering to say it, you know, kindly,

669
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 4: for a very long time. It's just that nobody cared

670
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 4: when you could be distracted by cool personalities on the

671
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 4: Seattle defense and you're winning Super Bowls and you're up

672
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 4: there just constantly, you know, doing the damn thing at

673
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 4: the highest possible level. It's when all of a sudden

674
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 4: it's not resulting in wins that we decide as a culture,

675
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: we're like, man, this is really this is just exhausting, right,

676
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 4: I can't take this guy anymore.

677
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 3: There's something to that for sure. But even look, even

678
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: when Seattle was winning nine, ten, eleven games, that's that

679
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: giant ESPN story about the Legion of Boom came out

680
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 3: I think in a season where they won eleven games

681
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: and either won the division or made the playoffs and

682
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 3: won a playoff game. So these rumblings, do you know,

683
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 3: have been creeping up over the years for him, But

684
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 3: you're correct, once things started going south, there's going to

685
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 3: be a scapegoat. And ultimately, if you're seen as a

686
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: guy that's divisive in the locker room and you're taking

687
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 3: up that much salary cap space and that much money

688
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 3: and that much attention, you know, ultimately people say it's

689
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 3: we're not willing to deal with the headache at this point.

690
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 3: Even though you might be talented, you're not as talented

691
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: as you were before. We're just not going to deal

692
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 3: with the distraction of it. We'd rather be rig rid

693
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: ourselves of you and your salary and move on. And obviously,

694
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: at this point in time, for sure, it's the right

695
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 3: move for Seattle and probably one of the worst trades

696
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: in the history of the sport for Denver.

697
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, it's the truth.

698
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: We'll get into free agent mistakes. Free agent Gold, is

699
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: it fool's Gold will continue to talk. It's fascinating. Starts

700
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 1: on Monday, right here, fellas, Fox Sports Radio.

701
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 4: Don't listen to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

702
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, fellas. It was a shame.

703
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: I wish the uh that the Football League is starting

704
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: now like today, like I would watch it today.

705
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 3: They dropped the ball on not starting this thing after

706
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.

707
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: They really did.

708
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: They did like March thirtieth too late. I'm already out.

709
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,800
Speaker 1: I got you know, We're in the thick of the tournament.

710
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,080
Speaker 1: I got baseball.

711
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: NBA winding down, getting ready for the playoffs. It's like

712
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 3: football to unless it's the NFL and free agency and

713
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: draft preparation. Football on the field, out of side, out

714
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: of mind.

715
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, wait, we as people like you can't let somebody.

716
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 4: There's a reason why if you to Disney, they don't

717
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 4: let you leave, like they want you to do everything there,

718
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 4: Like you have to keep us all while we're captive,

719
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 4: making sure that we're paying attention to exactly what you

720
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 4: want us to pay attention to. Right So, like I

721
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 4: feel like to your point, there's just an opportunity right

722
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: after the Super Bowl, I would have spent the whole

723
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 4: week telling stories about everybody that's ever come from any

724
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 4: spring league football that you know, and you try and

725
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,320
Speaker 4: convince people that they want to watch this, and you

726
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: get everybody all in that that would have made a

727
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: ton of sense to me. I think absolutely opportunity lost.

728
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking at it today, all right, and I go,

729
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: it's going to be poor here. It's gonna be like

730
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: a cold, rainy day, and I'm like, oh man, this

731
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: is a day and I got no responsibilities.

732
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: Right.

733
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: We got eliminated from my playoffs. The coat we got

734
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: smacked around Thursday night, So the season's over, right, and

735
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: me all Mosmaw has States Baseball practice, and so I'm

736
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: like a whole I can like a whole day, I

737
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: can just go sports crazy. And I mean, like I

738
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: love college basketball and I will I will watch college

739
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: basketball today, but like a football.

740
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: Like I would die.

741
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,240
Speaker 1: I would completely be in if the league was starting today.

742
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, and this comes back to one of

743
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: the things we've talked about a lot over the last

744
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 4: few weeks, like there just isn't right now across college basketball.

745
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 4: There isn't the same compelling, oh my god interest right

746
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 4: now I'm with you, like it. It feels strange at

747
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 4: some point, you know, I think we we all echo

748
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 4: the same sentiment that we're sort of clamoring and wanting

749
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 4: to get into it in a way that it's like,

750
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 4: this is amazing, this is incredible.

751
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: Right, don't I got no tingles? Man?

752
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean, and you can't. You can't fake that,

753
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 4: like you've either got it or you don't have it

754
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 4: at this point, right, And the fact that we have

755
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 4: a top ten matchup between North Carolina and Duke today

756
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 4: and it just doesn't matter, like I you know what

757
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: I mean, Like I know I'm overstating the truth.

758
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: Listen seven v nine, Right, it's it's Duke Carolina, and

759
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, eh, I really got it. Doesn't that same feel?

760
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: Why is that? Man?

761
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: It's freaking me out. I hate feeling this way.

762
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, and I don't know what fixes

763
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: it either, because it's just to your point, if there

764
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 4: was football on today, I don't really care what it is.

765
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 4: And this is why I constantly die in the hill

766
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 4: of I wish there was a minor league for the NFL,

767
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 4: Like if there was a Reno Raiders team playing today

768
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: that I could watch a bunch of practice squad guys.

769
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 4: I would just be happy all in on that. Like

770
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,680
Speaker 4: I'm at that level. We're not even we are not

771
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 4: even to like the heart of the absence of football,

772
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 4: and I'm already at the level where I'm like, can

773
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: I watch the practice squad guys from my favorite team

774
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 4: just work out today? Is there something I can do?

775
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: I know I do do figure? Do you have the

776
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 2: tangles North Carolina? No?

777
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll be honest, have the tingles for the

778
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: tournament itself, because I do think it's a pretty wide

779
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 3: open field, and so I'm looking forward to the incident

780
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: of tournament because you just don't know exactly where. I mean,

781
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: there could be twelve teams right now that I can

782
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: give you a legitimate reason and say why they could

783
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: win the national championship. But this singular matchup today Duke

784
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: of North Carolina, not really. No, doesn't do a whole lot,

785
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 3: whole lot for me. There's not a lot of name value.

786
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 3: Ardi Davis is a solid player, yay. Armando Baycott was

787
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: better last year than he's been this year, despite the

788
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: fact that he'll talk smack after a game where he

789
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 3: plays well and then disappear for two weeks. That doesn't

790
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 3: do a whole lot for me. People are trying to

791
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 3: throw you know, excuse me Filipowski in my face. He's solid,

792
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 3: but nothing special. You don't have the special players in

793
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 3: this in this rivalry either.

794
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 2: That doesn't that It comes down to, like, you don't

795
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 2: have the coach.

796
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, the code. There's no coach. Yeah, there's both coaches.

797
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 3: Both legendary coaches are retired. You know, there's no players.

798
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 3: There's there's no jj Reddix. You don't have those characters.

799
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,919
Speaker 1: You don't know now, you're just it feels antiseptic. It does,

800
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: and that's the biggest problem. They got to hope that

801
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: the NIL can save college basketball and keep guys in

802
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: school to play three years and build up recognition.

803
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 3: And maybe the Rick Patino idea of signing these guys

804
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: to contracts where they can't transfer, because that that, more

805
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 3: than anything is it's hurting college football. I think even

806
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: more college football is going to be fine no matter

807
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 3: what happens. College basketball needs to have some familiarity. It

808
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 3: was already losing it anyway because of the one and

809
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 3: done's you and you put NIL in there where guys

810
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: can transfer. Every single year of being on a different

811
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 3: team every every other year. It's it's going to be

812
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 3: more ridiculous than it already is.

813
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean we talk about this with

814
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: like you're right with college football and the uh and

815
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks. Yeah, like the quarterback, like you need consistency,

816
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: but like I feel bad for the player because the

817
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: players not guarantee the job.

818
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 3: Well, I mean back in the day, there was something

819
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 3: called competition. You know, you came in, you fall, and

820
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 3: if you didn't make it, you sat on the bench

821
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 3: and you wait until next year.

822
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 4: Yeah. But if we let coaches go wherever they want

823
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 4: to go, we gotta let players go. That's the only

824
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 4: thing I'd say is that if you know, we can

825
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 4: have contracts all day long, But if we're not holding

826
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: coaches to their contracts, why should we hold players to theirs?

827
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 4: I just why are we holding players to a different

828
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 4: standard than the men and bring them in to play

829
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,760
Speaker 4: these games?

830
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's an element of truth to that. I get that.

831
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

832
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Uh what big o'head? Where the fellas

833
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: hag it with you? Fox Sports Radio? Well? Well, well,

834
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

835
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: good morning, good morning. Everybody live from the tire iraq

836
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: dot com studios. It is Chase and Fitzkevin Figures on

837
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Gargano, ti rack dot com, We're gonna you get there.

838
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: And on Matt Selection fast free shipping, free road aster protection,

839
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: over ten thousand recommended installers, tire rack dot com the

840
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: way tire By should be. And hey, don't forget it

841
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: is March. Starting next Monday, you could preregister for the

842
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge at Foxsports Radio dot com.

843
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: Don't miss your chance to win the ultimate college sports

844
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: trip for you and a buddy, brought to you by

845
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: Graduate Hotels where college fans stay voice real quick. And

846
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: then I want to get into free agency. But there

847
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 1: was a very troubling story that hit this week and

848
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: it involved my alma mater, and I gotta tell you

849
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: I'm depressed over so in case people missed it, Temple

850
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: Temple basketball was the subject of an inquiry over a watchdog,

851
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: a gambling watchdog, and there's talk about point shaving and

852
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: the program and the programs on the scrutiny and they

853
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: went and they were going inside the numbers and that

854
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 1: they were out rebounded by UAB. It's some ridiculous number.

855
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: By twenty two, it was like shady. And I think

856
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 1: about this and we're talking about college basketball and no identity,

857
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: and I go back to that program where I fell

858
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: in love with it because there was a coach named

859
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: John Cheney who has since passed away, great great man,

860
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: who was a great coach, and you know, built that

861
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: team to a national powerhouse. And I look at that

862
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 1: program now and it's just it's just sad. And now

863
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 1: that there's a gambling inquiries, I mean, that's that's something.

864
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: With gambling so pervasive now, that's the other thing about

865
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: especially in college basketball and booking lines with all these

866
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: different games.

867
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: Gotta be careful. And one thing that you know, we

868
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 4: heard even at the Super Bowl when Roger Goodell talked,

869
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 4: he talked pretty openly about fighting the perception the gambling

870
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 4: is seeping into the outcome of the games. Got to

871
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 4: be careful with all of this. And you know we've

872
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 4: talked before and sort of joked before about me growing

873
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: up as a kid a U and LV fan, and

874
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 4: I'll never forget when some of the stars of UNLV

875
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 4: basketball were on the front page of the newspaper in

876
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 4: a known point Shaver's hot tub and hanging out, and

877
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 4: all of a sudden you found UNLV in trouble. That

878
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 4: changed the course of the program forever. I would argue

879
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 4: that U and lv's never recovered, and you know it's

880
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 4: it changed the way the program was seen. The hard

881
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 4: part about gambling in general is that it's not going anywhere.

882
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: So if the solution somebody offers is need to get

883
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 4: it out of the game, or we need to stop

884
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 4: doing it as much, or we need to end these sponsors,

885
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 4: none of that's happening. So now that we've had the

886
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 4: imaginary conversations, there need to be real conversations. The good

887
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 4: news about any watchdog group finding action like this, and

888
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 4: I've said this repeatedly, especially in college sports. Every time

889
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 4: somebody gets busted doing it, the one thing I say

890
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,399
Speaker 4: is if they're doing it and getting it caught, that

891
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 4: means that the systems in place are working. So that's

892
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 4: good because we want to catch these things. But this

893
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 4: is part of this is going to be part of

894
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 4: the future of all sports forever. And now that we've

895
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 4: got a rising generation that is growing up more cynical

896
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 4: than ever and gambling more than ever on content, we're

897
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: gonna have to be as a sports community more transparent,

898
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 4: more careful, more observant. We're gonna have to it's going

899
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: to have to be so real and loud in the

900
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: way that these things are throttled down that it makes

901
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 4: people believe that the outcome is not being impacted.

902
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 2: It's just gonna be really tough.

903
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 3: And you know, as you mentioned as guy Mcambley's going

904
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: to be more pervasive. It's here to stay. You can't

905
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 3: put the toothpaste back in the tube. And there have

906
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 3: been points shaving scandals that have popped up over the decades,

907
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: and you just wonder if more and more of these

908
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 3: situations are.

909
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: Going to pop up.

910
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 3: Especially you know, Nil is such a big factor, but

911
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: Nil is not going to be a thing. No disrespect

912
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 3: to here Alma mater, but Temple or Rice or Duquine

913
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 3: or whomever else. You know, you're not money, right, But

914
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: some guy comes up to him and says, hey, you

915
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 3: guys are in the A ten final and I really

916
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 3: need this team to win. Can you do X, Y

917
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 3: and Z? And there's money on the line. You know,

918
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 3: who's to say that these guys wouldn't be more apt

919
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 3: to fall for that, especially if one of their friends

920
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 3: that got recruited to a bigger school was making some money.

921
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: And he is like, what do I care. I'm not

922
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 3: going to the NBA. I'm trying to get, you know,

923
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 3: make sure I make some money from my family. We're

924
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:38,800
Speaker 3: not going to win a national championship. You start justifying, correct. Yeah.

925
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,239
Speaker 3: And I do think now that it's you know, out

926
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 3: in the open and somewhat accepted gambling in and of itself,

927
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: not point shaving obviously, and you know, tanking games intentionally.

928
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 2: I just do wonder this is one of the.

929
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 3: Slippery slope things that people were, you know, kind of

930
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 3: fearful of once you started opening the floodgates on this

931
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 3: sort of thing.

932
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 1: Remember when coach Pete Bell confronts Tony in the in

933
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 1: the dorm and he goes, you prostituted to one thing

934
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: you love son, Yeah, basketball. He's like, well, it was

935
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 1: just the coach, it was just the gamblers, like it

936
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 1: was a point spread, nothing to do with the game. No,

937
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: he didn't even see it. Now, I now here's a

938
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: question for you, guys. I love I love that. I

939
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: love that movie. Uh, what can you possibly get down?

940
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: There's limits to what you can bet online. So now

941
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: I know there's a million books out there, like you.

942
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 2: Know, I guess that.

943
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 1: So if you were to do this, I mean, if

944
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: someone starts spreading out money on a game, especially a

945
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,640
Speaker 1: game like that like Temple U A B, it gets

946
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:03,320
Speaker 1: red flag.

947
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: That's why the line went.

948
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: From U A bill give it one to give it

949
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: eight in like a couple hours period or something like that. Yeah,

950
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 1: when the line shoots like that and you're gonna go, WHOA,

951
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: something's up.

952
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: That's shady, right and well, and the thought is, I'm

953
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 3: sure whoever is broker in this thing is, well, who's

954
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: paying attention to this game? You know, if it was

955
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 3: Duke North Carolina, they'd never do that in the trillion years.

956
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: See, I would argue that that's the that's the one.

957
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: Now you would never get be able to do it. Yeah,

958
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 1: but that's more of a strategy because you're at the

959
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,360
Speaker 1: game action on it.

960
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 3: Well, you wouldn't, but it wouldn't. No line would ever

961
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: move that drastically from one and a half unless a

962
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: key player was hurt. No line is gonna move from

963
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: one and a half to eight and a half in

964
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 3: a three and a half hour period, right, that's just

965
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 3: not gonna happen.

966
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 4: This is where a lot of people involved and I'll

967
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 4: put my Vegas sat on for a second. Growing up there,

968
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people involved in these sorts

969
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: of things underestimate the processes and legalities that are involved

970
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 4: in trying to track all of it. Like there are

971
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 4: still right now listening a ton of people that are

972
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 4: convinced that casinos fix the games. Whether it's the roulette

973
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 4: table or any of that, they're convinced that the casinos

974
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,279
Speaker 4: fix it. And it's like, guess what, they don't have

975
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 4: to a because they even if they wanted to fix that,

976
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 4: the Gaming Commission is down everybody's throats, constantly looking at everything,

977
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 4: like the attempt to fix a game would take so

978
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 4: many levels of impossible. You know, it doesn't happen. And

979
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 4: you know, as somebody that grew up with two parents

980
00:48:43,320 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 4: that worked in casinos, we always laughed as a kid

981
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 4: when people are like, oh, casinos face they again, they

982
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 4: don't have to. They just rely on humans to be

983
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: humans and screw it up. So I think sometimes when

984
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 4: you have these points shaving instances, what you have are

985
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 4: people running the schemes that don't necessarily understand and how

986
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 4: much goes into regulation of all of this and how

987
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 4: watchdogged it all is like I think people just sort

988
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: of feel like I could do this and nobody's gonna

989
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 4: catch it. We need better cons It's basically what I'm saying.

990
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 4: If you're gonna try and do this, you got to

991
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 4: be able to outcon the gaming commissions, to sports books

992
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 4: all that. That gets much.

993
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 3: More difficult than people think, or find some muscles to

994
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 3: make sure they don't do it, which is what casinos

995
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: do with guys who are card counters, which is why

996
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 3: you don't see a lot of those guys anymore, those

997
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 3: guys coming to casinos and start winning a little.

998
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 2: Bit money, or do you want to hammer.

999
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 3: Let me, uh come come see me in my office

1000
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 3: really quick.

1001
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 5: Just like.

1002
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: The stories about that, you know, yeah, I mean that's.

1003
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the Vegas the yeah.

1004
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. There's definitely that element of like, don't

1005
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,879
Speaker 4: mess with certain you know, I still do this day.

1006
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 4: Probably wouldn't mess with like a place on Freemont. You know,

1007
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 4: like if you're at the Venetian, you're getting treated right, like,

1008
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 4: but if I'm down at Fremont, one of those places

1009
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 4: where you know, somebody will just ta you on the

1010
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 4: shoulder while you're playing at a slot and they'll say

1011
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 4: I want this slot now, like that's just the way

1012
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 4: free while so you know, yeah, it's a.

1013
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: Different, different rule that It is funny because I stayed

1014
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: on Fremont Circa.

1015
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 4: Oh Circus, gorgeous circus. I love Circus, beautiful. Problem is

1016
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 4: you walk out of Circa and you're like, you're in there.

1017
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 4: You're in a very weird area at that point, like

1018
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 4: Circa Circus. If they could, if they could build five

1019
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 4: or six more circus side by side by side, Freemont

1020
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 4: would be revitalized. Unfortunately, you know, the mistake is ever

1021
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 4: leaving the property. If you stay at Circa.

1022
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 2: You know what was awesome was that stadium?

1023
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,839
Speaker 3: Swim God that the stadium so is amazing, right, Oh

1024
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 3: my god, immaculate figure.

1025
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous.

1026
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: There's like seven so imagine, you know, an amphitheater with

1027
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: seven gigantic pools bars all surrounding a giant wrap around screen.

1028
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: That's just unbelievable. I mean, and people are just in

1029
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: pools watching games, drinking beers.

1030
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 3: It's just ridiculous, almost like one of the modern wonders

1031
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: of the world at this point.

1032
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 4: It's like an amphitheater a thing.

1033
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: That thing's unbelievable.

1034
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 4: It's an amphitheater meets a drive in, meets a pool club,

1035
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 4: meets a nightclub, meets a casino, and everybody there is gorgeous.

1036
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 4: Like it's just.

1037
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that place, my god, that's something.

1038
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:34,479
Speaker 1: But you guys are right, like, you know, can you

1039
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 1: possibly do this sort of thing? I I the thing.

1040
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 1: I'm with you. Nobody's fixing anything. I hear it all

1041
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: the time too, you know games, and I love it.

1042
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: I love these like I encountered these people a lot.

1043
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: And they're like, they treat you like you're a sucker, right,

1044
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,920
Speaker 1: like that, you're that you have no idea, like you know,

1045
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: these games are rigged. You know that, right? And I'm

1046
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: like no, and they're like, please, the games are rigged.

1047
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 1: You you're just a pawn. Like you make a living

1048
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: in sports, You're you're you're just a pawn. The league

1049
00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: is fixing everything. And like these people, I and I

1050
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,879
Speaker 1: and I get frustrated with them because like, no, there's

1051
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 1: no conspiracy.

1052
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: They don't care about a certain.

1053
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: Team, they don't care about anything, because first of all,

1054
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 1: demitted anybody find first of all, it's impossible to get

1055
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: to all these people together and not have it leak out.

1056
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,759
Speaker 1: Second of all, why there's no purpose Because if you

1057
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: did try to do something like that, the game loses

1058
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: all its credibility and you got nothing.

1059
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 3: That's to your point, the first point to get hundreds

1060
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 3: of people thousands of people, depending on the sport, to

1061
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 3: all complicitly agree that there's gonna be a predetermined outcome

1062
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: at the end of a season. These guys put in

1063
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 3: all this, all this hard work, tear as go through

1064
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: all those injuries, when they already know what's gonna happen.

1065
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 3: Why would they do that?

1066
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 2: Also, since for we live.

1067
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 4: In a society where nobody keeps a secret about anything, Right,

1068
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 4: your neighbor tells you something and three minutes later it's

1069
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 4: made its way to Facebook, and the entire community knows

1070
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 4: about it like nobody can. So you're telling me that

1071
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 4: all these secrets are just being miraculously kept for generations.

1072
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 4: I just the funniest thing to me is that in society,

1073
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 4: in life, I believe that more often than not, the

1074
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 4: easy answer is the right answer, and more often than not,

1075
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 4: we don't want to accept that. Like the easy answer

1076
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,439
Speaker 4: is that like a ref made a dumb call because

1077
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 4: they're human, And the easy answer is the game is

1078
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 4: chaotic because it's football or basketball, whatever the choice is, Like,

1079
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 4: the easy answer is more often than not the correct one.

1080
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 4: But you got people that are just sitting here trying

1081
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: to turn everything in life into some version of dateline

1082
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 4: or twenty twenty where it's like this master plan. And

1083
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,239
Speaker 4: by the way, most their plans go wrong. So you're

1084
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: telling me that we've got this whole society. They can't

1085
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 4: figure out basic things like how to feed people, but

1086
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 4: they can figure out how to I don't know, keep

1087
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,800
Speaker 4: a secret about the NFL outcome for the last fifty

1088
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 4: sixty years. Right, it's just the stupidest, like taking simple

1089
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 4: things and making a complicated If you presume the least

1090
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:23,240
Speaker 4: of everybody, you're probably correct.

1091
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 3: Too many people have too much time in the hands

1092
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: of the way that I look at it, when it

1093
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 3: comes to most of these things, you have too much

1094
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: time to sit around and think that's all about right.

1095
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 4: Smart enough to get this done? Either, like who is

1096
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 4: smart enough to figure out like who's smart to figure

1097
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: out the nda that we keep everybody from for fifty

1098
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 4: years from talking like I've said this to Mike, because

1099
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 4: you know, when you sit on tour buses all day,

1100
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,320
Speaker 4: everybody becomes a conspiracy theorist, I think, and I constantly

1101
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,959
Speaker 4: My two answers to that is Number one, doesn't change

1102
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,240
Speaker 4: my Tuesday. So guess what if we never really landed

1103
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 4: on the moon? I don't care, Like it's not going

1104
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 4: to change what I have to do today. I don't

1105
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,839
Speaker 4: don't care. But the other part of it is, if

1106
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 4: we never really landed on the moon, how did they

1107
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 4: keep all that secret? For all that like every single

1108
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 4: spider web of every single person that would possibly be

1109
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 4: impacted by that. And think about that in the NFL,

1110
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 4: if we believe the games are being rigged, then you

1111
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 4: believe that thousands of players, every single like front office employees,

1112
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 4: the secretaries and every like, every the administrative assistance, they're

1113
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 4: all suddenly under some wild NBA that keeps people from

1114
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 4: talking for generally, like nobody's ever come out and said,

1115
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 4: oh my mom worked for the Browns in the eighties

1116
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 4: and by the right, the fumble was orchestrated.

1117
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 3: Come on, sports, sports is rigged. Guy is the same

1118
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 3: guy that says that their pigeons aren't real and they

1119
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 3: are agents for the CIA, or that the earth is flat.

1120
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 3: I kind of put them all under the same unrelative

1121
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 3: and the pigeons aren't real.

1122
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 4: I don't care. Just don't poop on me pigeons about

1123
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 4: There was.

1124
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 2: A prospect, wasn't there. I forget who it was.

1125
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 3: There was a prospect of the combine that did a

1126
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 3: whole thing about pigeons not being real. And I never

1127
00:55:58,840 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 3: say baby pigeons.

1128
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: So that's so that was written.

1129
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: So it was fascinating because I I was like, what's

1130
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 1: this another weird sub group of society.

1131
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 3: This has been a thing that's popped over the last

1132
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 3: five years or so, so.

1133
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: Clearly it was written as like uh in a like

1134
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 1: sarcastic way. It was supposed to be tongue in cheek,

1135
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:25,000
Speaker 1: but some people took it literal, and I forget it

1136
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 1: became a thing absolutely anxiety bizarre. So wait, I got

1137
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: delayed this this is really interesting. So v Sin did

1138
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: his story on the temple thing. They interviewed Thomas Gable,

1139
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: who is the UH director of the Borgata sports book,

1140
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: and this is really interesting. He said that usually when

1141
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: the line moves like that, like from minus one of

1142
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: minus eight, there's always buybacks from the sharp players because

1143
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: like they say, well i'll middle it, like if you

1144
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: if you get in at minus one, then you're gonna

1145
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: take plus eight because the middle's ridiculous, like you can

1146
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 1: hit both your bets right right without minimal risk.

1147
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: But there was none.

1148
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: There was no buyback and it really interesting and then

1149
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: they said that they're looking into other games. March second

1150
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 1: versus Tulsa, the total went from one forty four and

1151
00:57:31,400 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 1: a half to one thirty six in less than two hours.

1152
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 4: Wow, Wow, that's crazy.

1153
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: February down the game, the closing number was one thirty nine.

1154
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Yeah, so they were they went to one

1155
00:57:52,400 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 1: thirty nine. Under underhit the early under hit right, but

1156
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: it went to one, so it went from one forty

1157
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: four and a half to one thirty six. It fell

1158
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: at one thirty nine, so all those people that got

1159
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: in early one. Temple fell behind sixteen to two to

1160
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:21,200
Speaker 1: start the game. February twenty fifth, Wichita State Temple was

1161
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 1: a seven point underdog for the game. The first half

1162
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: spread moved from plus three and a half to plus six.

1163
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: Before tip off, Temple was down by ten and a

1164
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: half and they rallied the winning overtime.

1165
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: So they're been half lines. And then February ninth against.

1166
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: Memphis, the line moved from Memphis minus six and a

1167
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: half to Memphis minus ten and a half a few

1168
00:58:52,920 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: hours before tip off. Wow, that's rightening, dude. Yeah, that's

1169
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: that's crazy boys, all right? Where the fella is hanging

1170
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: right here? Fuck sports radio all right, fellas from the

1171
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: tire rack dot com studios.

1172
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 2: So free agency, boys, let's get back to it for

1173
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: a second.

1174
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about some of the basic tenants

1175
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: about free agency, and it's different than baseball, you know,

1176
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: guys like or obviously the NBA, because the NBA you

1177
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: get impacted, you know, incredibly, like you can really impact

1178
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,840
Speaker 1: this thing, you know, your team in a big way

1179
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: obviously just because it's your number of players. Whereas football,

1180
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: it's like you got to use it more like tweaking

1181
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: your team and using it for units. Right, Like if

1182
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: I know I can add a linebacker, all right, so

1183
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: that one linebacker can help my unit, and I almost

1184
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: need to boil down to position.

1185
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 4: Groups, it's a smart way to do it. I think

1186
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 4: that makes sense, trying to figure out where your strength

1187
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 4: and weakness is. But I also think to the point

1188
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 4: that we were making earlier, this is where you really

1189
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 4: find out what the internal structure of your team looks

1190
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 4: like and where there can be wins and losses. Like

1191
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 4: look at the Titans as a team that sort of

1192
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 4: ripped itself apart after John Robinson and Mike Rabel couldn't

1193
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 4: agree on anything right, and so then they bring in

1194
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 4: a new GM. And I keep thinking about just to

1195
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 4: your point, it's not just I'm gonna look at my linebackers.

1196
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 4: I think there does have to be some intrinsic communication

1197
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 4: between coach and GM about what type of linebacker exactly

1198
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 4: we're looking for. And what's hard here is that we

1199
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:54,120
Speaker 4: judge gms by the names they bring in did they

1200
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 4: get great players? And then we turn around and judge

1201
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 4: coaches by did they get great results? Those two things

1202
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 4: may not live in the same category, right, So, like,

1203
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 4: I think that's what's interesting here. The ego of a

1204
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 4: coach is going to say, you give me great players,

1205
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 4: I can coach them up. But to Figgy's point earlier,

1206
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 4: I think, you know, let's use the linebacker analogy. All right,

1207
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 4: what kind of defense are we running in? What do

1208
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 4: we want these linebackers to do right. That's such a

1209
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 4: different part of the conversation rather than just saying, well,

1210
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 4: he's a really talented linebacker. Is he a talented linebacker

1211
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 4: for this scheme? And one of the things that I

1212
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 4: think it's really difficult is that gms are essentially going

1213
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 4: to be judged popularly in all media content next week,

1214
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 4: when in reality, then when they get on Sundays, they're

1215
01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 4: sitting in the owner's box next to the owner and saying, hey, man,

1216
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 4: I got great players. This bumb just can't coach right.

1217
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 4: And so that's where you end up with this disconnect

1218
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 4: if you don't have two people that are on the

1219
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,520
Speaker 4: exact same page, not just about we need linebackers, but

1220
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 4: we need this type of linebacker that can do this

1221
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,600
Speaker 4: one specific thing, and fans got to accept that that

1222
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 4: may not be the number one linebacker on anybody's free

1223
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,560
Speaker 4: agent list, but it's the best linebacker for exactly what

1224
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 4: this team needs. If we all had that level of

1225
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 4: patience in the way that we approached it, I think

1226
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 4: we'd analyze it better as fans, and sometimes as media

1227
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 4: and teams, you get a better result.

1228
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, fans just don't have that general, nuanced outlook of

1229
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 3: it though, to your point, they get enamored with the

1230
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 3: hots with the sexy name. And I do think, especially

1231
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 3: in the classic front office structure where it's the GM

1232
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 3: hires the coach, and the coach anrest to the GM,

1233
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 3: the general manager is going to win all the favor

1234
01:02:28,280 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 3: when it comes to the public opinion because I brought

1235
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 3: in that All Pro defensive tackle that's a free agent,

1236
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: and then I brought in that Pro Bowl cornerback who

1237
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 3: would maybe hurt last year, but he's the last I

1238
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 3: left from the tank. And if those guys flame out,

1239
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 3: what no me. The guy was talented enough, you guys

1240
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,320
Speaker 3: wanted them. I got him in. The coach didn't know

1241
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 3: what he was doing, so I got to fire him,

1242
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 3: and I'll buy myself some extra time, which is again,

1243
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 3: while I believe that that model is just antiquated, and

1244
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 3: it's shown itself in the success of teams like Kansas

1245
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 3: City and San Francisco over the years, So I agree wholeheartedly, Anthony.

1246
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 3: You brought this up earlier in the show as well,

1247
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 3: you know, having the head coach be the man at

1248
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,320
Speaker 3: the top of the at the pyramid and being able

1249
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 3: to hire his own personnel guy and molding the personnel

1250
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 3: to the actual scheme of what the coach coaching staff

1251
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: is trying to do is ultimately the path to success

1252
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 3: in today's NFL.

1253
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 4: Totally, I think too, Like, remember we all know the

1254
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 4: whole bill parcells. I want to pick the ingredients, right.

1255
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 4: I want to take that analogy and make it ten

1256
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 4: times more more specific, because if I'm eating healthy, I

1257
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 4: like asparagus. When I'm eeting healthy, I like asparagus, right.

1258
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 4: But if I'm going out and I'm doing a grocery

1259
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 4: delivery thing from like the Kroger in the South or whatever,

1260
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,000
Speaker 4: I'm not going to Kroger and saying, get my asparagus

1261
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,560
Speaker 4: because I don't trust the person that's walking up and

1262
01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,880
Speaker 4: down the produce aisle to get the kind of asparagus

1263
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 4: I like because they're skinny asparagus and there's thick asparagus,

1264
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,080
Speaker 4: so even if they're picking really good asparagus, it might

1265
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 4: not be I like the skinny gut, right, and that

1266
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:55,919
Speaker 4: Kate go into the app and say I want skinny cut.

1267
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:57,320
Speaker 4: I think I'm saying all that.

1268
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 2: I agree, I like the skinny asparagus as well.

1269
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's way easier, Like it's tasty, it's easier

1270
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,479
Speaker 4: to cook it, it's better.

1271
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 3: I am, I'm I'm non discriminatory. I love asparagus regardless,

1272
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 3: So I've never really thought that much about it, to

1273
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:16,800
Speaker 3: be honest, I like the thin ones and the thicker ones.

1274
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 2: They all work.

1275
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 4: So you're like thin and think, okay, we got that

1276
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 4: all right, It's just somebody put that off. So I mean,

1277
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 4: all I'm saying is that it's got to be the

1278
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 4: same with players, Like you know, we'll go back as

1279
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 4: figure and I do often to our Raiders fandom, and

1280
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 4: this is the moment right now when you say, well,

1281
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 4: what are teams doing to me? Antonio Peers should be

1282
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 4: sitting in the room with Telesco every single day saying, Okay,

1283
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 4: I want a linebacker that can do these five things.

1284
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 4: I need a defensive tackle that we're going to use

1285
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 4: in this exact way. And then he's got to trust

1286
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 4: that GM to go in and not just say, oh, well,

1287
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 4: you know what, according to the athletic he's the number

1288
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 4: one corner, so we're gonna bring him in. No, it's

1289
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 4: I need a corner that can do these specific things.

1290
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 4: I want him to be this tall, I want him

1291
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 4: to run this fast. I want him to run these

1292
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 4: types of things and defensively like that's it's such a

1293
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 4: different concept of rather than just saying I got your

1294
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 4: great players, go coach.

1295
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm curious to get your guys opinion on this.

1296
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: But this free agent class, I mean, I just think

1297
01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: it's kind of lukewarm, like Chris Jones, Chris Jones, Christian Wilkins, legit.

1298
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: Justin Simmons is added to it now, which is a

1299
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 3: bigger name, but in the in general, yeah, I don't

1300
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 3: think it's the sexiest look and it almost never is

1301
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: for the quarterback class. I mean, the biggest name is

1302
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins and he's coming off of an injury. Who

1303
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 3: knows what he is at this point in time. So no,

1304
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 3: I would say outside of Chris Jones and maybe a

1305
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 3: Justin Simmons towards the top, it's not the most robust

1306
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,240
Speaker 3: class from a name standpoint.

1307
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, especially if you take the running backs top, because

1308
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 4: we don't believe there's any market for running backs right

1309
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,400
Speaker 4: like so, because it'd be interesting if we're just looking

1310
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 4: if you needed running back. Between Josh Jacobs, Saquon and

1311
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 4: Derrick Henry, I mean they're running backs out there, but nobody,

1312
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 4: nobody wants to pay running backs. I'm with you. I

1313
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 4: think it's echoes out there to free class.

1314
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 2: Is that nuts?

1315
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 1: The running backs right are like Fantasy Football twenty nineteen gold.

1316
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right?

1317
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,880
Speaker 3: I mean DeAndre Swift who had a really good year

1318
01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 3: with Detroit and then last year wasn't the you know,

1319
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 3: wasn't the greatest with Philadelphia, but still a really good back.

1320
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: This guy's not going to get anything on the free

1321
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 3: agent market now relative to what he would have gotten

1322
01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 3: twelve years ago. You know from the production that he

1323
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 3: can offer you all, just a different league. It's funny

1324
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 3: I hear the Eagles have interest in Barkley now? Is

1325
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 3: that just like we're what? I don't know if you

1326
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 3: can make them New York Giants any weaker than they

1327
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 3: already are. I guess getting Sae Kwon would help with that.

1328
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,600
Speaker 3: But weakening our eye while strengthening ourselves.

1329
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 4: Kind of thing.

1330
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, I look at it and how

1331
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: we liked shiny toys. Yeah, Like they're always in the

1332
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 1: funny thing about them is that they're always in on

1333
01:07:00,120 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: every big name.

1334
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 3: I don't know, doesn't seem like a necessity, No, I

1335
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 3: would never sign a free agent back.

1336
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: I just think they're just that's a waste of time.

1337
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, by running back gets to a second contract, he's

1338
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 3: pretty much damage goes at that point.

1339
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1340
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,360
Speaker 1: And by the way, even if he's not and he's

1341
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: got some what, you're still paying right, Like, you're still

1342
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: gonna So why would you just draft and running back

1343
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: in the third or fourth round like you're gonna get anywhere?

1344
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:34,520
Speaker 1: Like to me, you get a back, second, third, fourth round,

1345
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,680
Speaker 1: you get there's so many there's so much value there.

1346
01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 4: I agree. I think the only thing with the Eagles

1347
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,440
Speaker 4: is I'm looking now, according to over the Cap, they

1348
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 4: have basically forty three million dollars in cap space. I

1349
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 4: think if they feel like they've addressed everything else and

1350
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 4: then they're like, oh well we could, we could go

1351
01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 4: ahead and grab him. I don't mind it in that situation.

1352
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 4: If you're basically saying, I don't love any of these

1353
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 4: backs this year, I'd like to have a one year

1354
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 4: running back and then we'll figure it out. I don't

1355
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 4: hate it there when you have money to spend. But

1356
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 4: also I think that's one of the big reminders to

1357
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 4: everybody is that when you start talking about forty million dollars,

1358
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 4: which used to sound like a lot of money going

1359
01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 4: into salary time. We talk about forty plus right now,

1360
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 4: there's six, nine, twelve, thirteen teams that have more than

1361
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 4: forty million, and that that includes three teams that have

1362
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 4: more than seventy five million. But like, I'll go back

1363
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,679
Speaker 4: to the Titans sitting here with seventy five point eight

1364
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 4: million dollars in salary cap Like, okay, that's cute, but

1365
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 4: you're not gonna suddenly fix your team this year. I

1366
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 4: don't care if you have said, like the Commanders have

1367
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 4: ninety two million dollars in cap space, they'll find a

1368
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 4: way to spend it. Is it gonna make them suddenly

1369
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 4: with this free agent class and with the amount of

1370
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:43,559
Speaker 4: holes they have, Is it gonna make them suddenly a

1371
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 4: playoff contender? I don't think so.

1372
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: I mean there are teams that hold it, like the

1373
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 3: the New Zealand Patriots. I think over the last three

1374
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 3: seasons or three of the last four seasons, have like

1375
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 3: entered this season with thirty plus million dollars in cap space.

1376
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 3: They basically spent to the floor and not above it

1377
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 3: for whatever reason, whether they didn't think they were going

1378
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:03,040
Speaker 3: to be competitive enough, or nobody was out there worth

1379
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 3: giving that amount of money too. There's something to be

1380
01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 3: said for, I guess, depending on what the outlook is

1381
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 3: for your team in a given year, keeping that money

1382
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 3: available just in case a Deshaun Watson type situation pops up,

1383
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,280
Speaker 3: or who knows what happens a Russell Wilson, not specifically

1384
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 3: Russell himself, but that sort of situation, a disgruntle quarterback

1385
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: wants out and all of a sudden, we have enough

1386
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 3: money to be able to accommodate bringing in a player

1387
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 3: of that caliber into our team. That might be part

1388
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 3: of the thinking of a team like a Tennessee like

1389
01:09:31,280 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 3: a New England who I might have carry over a

1390
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 3: large portion of their salary cap space knowing they're not

1391
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,559
Speaker 3: necessarily going to compete right now.

1392
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, But also I think there's an element of smarter

1393
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,680
Speaker 4: organizations don't spend it just because they have it on.

1394
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:46,479
Speaker 4: That's the other thing, you know. I when people ask

1395
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 4: me all the time advice in music, the one thing

1396
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 4: I tell them if they're trying to make it in

1397
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,800
Speaker 4: the music business is never ask yourself how much house

1398
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 4: you can afford, Ask yourself, what's the least amount of house.

1399
01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 4: I have to have to live the way I want

1400
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 4: to live. And the difference is like, can you keep

1401
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,320
Speaker 4: your expens low so that you know, when you hit

1402
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 4: that time when suddenly your gig's not as good, you're

1403
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 4: not in a bad situation. I think the Patriots organizationally

1404
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 4: look around, they're like, talent's worth what talent's worth? And

1405
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 4: so because they've never been an organization at least to

1406
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,920
Speaker 4: right now that seems to covet big names, and they

1407
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 4: don't seem to spend in free agency that way for

1408
01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 4: the most part, they end up with a ton of

1409
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 4: cap space left because they're a team that's going to

1410
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 4: rely on the draft, that hasn't particularly drafted well. So

1411
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 4: they're constantly resetting their franchise, you know, and they don't

1412
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 4: really have the money. They have the money because they

1413
01:10:32,479 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 4: haven't had anybody internally to spend the money on.

1414
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can say Tennessee to a certain degree is

1415
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 3: operated that way as well. When they had their runs

1416
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 3: with Tannehill and Henry and all those guys. Buyer was

1417
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 3: a draft pick of theirs. I mean they built through

1418
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 3: the draft. Yeah, it's a smart way to do it.

1419
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 3: The truth let's look at real quick running backs. We

1420
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 3: brought running backs, yep.

1421
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,639
Speaker 1: And this draft is a weird draft for backs in

1422
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 1: that it's not top heavy, but it's got some depth

1423
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: to it.

1424
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: So if you look at some of the names from

1425
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: the drag, you tell me some.

1426
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: Of the guys that you you guys like, all right,

1427
01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 1: you got uh what's his.

1428
01:11:14,439 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: Name from Notre Dame estimate? Yeah, very good. You got

1429
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 2: Jalen Wright, the kid from Tennessee.

1430
01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 3: You got I think Brooks from Texas is probably the

1431
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 3: top one.

1432
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 1: Jonathan Brooks, you got, trade back. I'm just going over up,

1433
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,560
Speaker 1: just throwing over names. Benson from Florida State.

1434
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 2: You got, Uh, you got your boy, Marshall Lloyd from

1435
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 2: the f C Blake Korham.

1436
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 4: Now, I'm a little curious somewhere everybody is would play

1437
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:49,200
Speaker 4: because it seems like his name isn't being panted around here. No,

1438
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,719
Speaker 4: I don't. I know, he's not like a Burner Berner,

1439
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 4: but like, I don't know, I just feel like he's

1440
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:56,879
Speaker 4: being forgotten in this process.

1441
01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 3: I just I don't think I think he's he's not

1442
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:03,519
Speaker 3: very fast, not super physical. No, I think that he

1443
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 3: gets Yeah, he's not big, he's five eight. Yeah, he

1444
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,840
Speaker 3: gets lauded for being solid in pass protection, which is

1445
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 3: very important, especially in today's NFL. I'll give him that.

1446
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,799
Speaker 3: And he's not a bad receiver out of the backfield.

1447
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 3: So all that tells me is that's a third down

1448
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:17,000
Speaker 3: backslash special teamer.

1449
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 4: And I am to five eleven by the way, like

1450
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:24,720
Speaker 4: I said, next him with the National Championship Game, and

1451
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:27,600
Speaker 4: I was like five eight huh.

1452
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: Like, you know what's funny you comparedst him to like

1453
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving. Like Bucky Irving's got is electric, you know,

1454
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:40,120
Speaker 1: like in the in the NFL, he translates more to

1455
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:45,240
Speaker 1: uh that kind of that kind of uh complimentary back

1456
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: that can make things happens, make things happen more than

1457
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 1: than big quorum does. I just don't. I don't say it. Plus,

1458
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: he's had some big holes, man, you know that's good.

1459
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:59,000
Speaker 1: That's a good line. Maybe he's running through.

1460
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, now how many you know tackles do you see

1461
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:03,160
Speaker 3: Blake Corn breaking through? And it's not his fault that

1462
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 3: he had a great offensive line. I'm not blaming him

1463
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 3: for that. If you just look at the measurables and

1464
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:11,240
Speaker 3: comparing him to two other players, there's just nothing necessarily

1465
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 3: special about him that will make him stand out. So,

1466
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,479
Speaker 3: like I said, I'm thinking special team or third down back.

1467
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 3: He is a solid receiver on the backfield, but along

1468
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,679
Speaker 3: with that, to your point, you're not very fast or shifty,

1469
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,519
Speaker 3: so it doesn't really do a whole lot for you there.

1470
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:27,599
Speaker 3: So I think he can have a career in the NFL,

1471
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:29,600
Speaker 3: but I don't think he's going to be anything, you know,

1472
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:30,639
Speaker 3: necessarily special.

1473
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:36,160
Speaker 1: How about Allen how big is just a huge I

1474
01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 1: mean it's.

1475
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: Tall for running back, you know, six to two, right. Yeah,

1476
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:44,799
Speaker 2: I think.

1477
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 4: He skipped running at the combine, which is okay. I

1478
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:52,320
Speaker 4: don't I don't blame him considering like estimates. I feel

1479
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 4: like we just watched the free fall of a stock

1480
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,639
Speaker 4: of a player just because he ran slow at the combine, right, So,

1481
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, everybody just sites you can't play.

1482
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 4: I never watched him at Nondre Daman felt like he

1483
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 4: was slow, you know what I mean?

1484
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: I never thought that, which is more important, you know,

1485
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,240
Speaker 3: by the way, You know, we talked about the Rams

1486
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 3: earlier in the show and how successful they've been under

1487
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:17,680
Speaker 3: McVeigh and Snead and drafting, especially in later rounds. You

1488
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:20,759
Speaker 3: realize that they don't go to the combine. They haven't.

1489
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 3: They've never gone to the combine. They send their scouts,

1490
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 3: they talk to people and all that, but those guys

1491
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:26,160
Speaker 3: stay back, they said.

1492
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,240
Speaker 2: They use the time of the combine.

1493
01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 3: They do watch tape, They watch tape of the players

1494
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:31,680
Speaker 3: and all that, and they coach their coaches and do

1495
01:14:31,800 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: some scouting in deturning who they want to bring in.

1496
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 3: But all the forty times, it's not that they don't

1497
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,240
Speaker 3: have any value, but it's not a top priority for them.

1498
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: It's right, that's right, all right, we have to take

1499
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,639
Speaker 1: quick tl. We'll come right back where the fellas Fox

1500
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: Sports Radio. All right, Welcome back fellas. From the ti

1501
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:59,160
Speaker 1: iraq dot com studios.

1502
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: Jason fitzk figures on Anthithy Gargana.

1503
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:06,759
Speaker 1: Talking to NFL free agency and the whole team building.

1504
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: What do you guys like best? You like guys like?

1505
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:13,520
Speaker 1: How do you rank the off season? Is it free agency,

1506
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 1: the draft? Is it schedule which is always fun? What

1507
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:22,759
Speaker 1: do you look forward to most of the mile posts

1508
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 1: of the off season?

1509
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 4: The NFL Draft is my favorite sporting event of the

1510
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 4: entire year, and I mean I like it better than

1511
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. I like it better than the NBA Finals.

1512
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 4: I like it better than the World Series, the NBA

1513
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:38,719
Speaker 4: or the NFL Draft is it's the season of hope

1514
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,280
Speaker 4: where every single team feels like this is the weekend

1515
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 4: that they're suddenly going to take a massive step forward,

1516
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 4: and then if it doesn't work, the angst that comes

1517
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 4: with that is so dramatic. To me. There's nothing better

1518
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,639
Speaker 4: on the sports calendar all year long than the NFL Draft.

1519
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,240
Speaker 4: It is my favorite thing. Free agency is fine, the

1520
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 4: schedule release is a joke because we already know who's

1521
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 4: playing who, we just don't know when. But I am

1522
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 4: all in in on the NFL Draft every single year.

1523
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 4: I cover it every single year. It moves my soul

1524
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 4: like that is the that that for me, that is

1525
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 4: the pinnacle that I It's my favorite event to be

1526
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 4: a part of. It is my favorite event to do

1527
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 4: anything with and is my favorite event to attend.

1528
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, because it's speculation season and more so

1529
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,679
Speaker 3: than just playing the games. Everybody loves to think about

1530
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 3: we had such a phenomenal draft, or we had such

1531
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 3: a crappy draft. And honestly, everybody who says they had

1532
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 3: a crappy draft after about two months, they start convincing themselves,

1533
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 3: Yeah it was maybe it wasn't that bad. They'll figure

1534
01:16:29,400 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 3: out what they did. Everybody does it happened.

1535
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 2: That's the game everybody does.

1536
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,479
Speaker 3: With how fail every single solitary time. So we talk

1537
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 3: about the season of optimism more so. Free agency is

1538
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 3: such a crap shoot and a lot of times we

1539
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,559
Speaker 3: mentioned we see flame outs constantly all the time. There's

1540
01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 3: gonna be guys who are overpaid or perceived to be overpaid.

1541
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 3: You didn't think your team was active enough, But you

1542
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 3: know what, when the draft rolls around, Oh, they drafted

1543
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 3: this kid out of Valdasta State in the sixth round

1544
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 3: and I saw his tape and they, you know, DJ

1545
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 3: look like he knew what he was talking about on

1546
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 3: the NFL network, So you know what, I guess he

1547
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 3: can play. That's the exciting part about the draft because

1548
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 3: everybody thinks that their draft was going to be amazing

1549
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 3: and they're going to have that super super Bowl like

1550
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 3: turnaround from worse to first.

1551
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 2: And I'm with you.

1552
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 3: Fits on the schedule release, we can all get excited

1553
01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:19,080
Speaker 3: about who's playing in Week fifteen until by the time

1554
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 3: Week fifteen rolls around and half the roster is injured

1555
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:23,760
Speaker 3: and guys are resting because they've already made the playoffs.

1556
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 2: It doesn't really do a whole lot for me, all.

1557
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: Right, So I love the schedule, but we'll put that

1558
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:36,120
Speaker 1: to the side a question, because I never understood maybe

1559
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 1: you guys have encounted this. Now, all three of us

1560
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: love college football, so it would make sense that all

1561
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 1: three of us love the draft and that that's one

1562
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 1: of our favorite moments of the calendar for the year.

1563
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:54,720
Speaker 1: I talked to a lot of people, right and they

1564
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: love the draft, but they don't watch college football. And

1565
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm going, how, like, how do you make a decision

1566
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:10,320
Speaker 1: about a draft if you don't watch the players and

1567
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: their whole thing is they start to do their homework,

1568
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:19,320
Speaker 1: you know, after I guess leading up in the days

1569
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 1: leading up the weeks leading up to the draft. I

1570
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: don't know how you can do that.

1571
01:18:27,080 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 4: I think it's and I don't want to throw any

1572
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,640
Speaker 4: of my former co workers under the bus, but I

1573
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 4: know several people around the NFL Draft broadcast at ESPN

1574
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 4: that didn't even touch an ounce of college football until

1575
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,919
Speaker 4: after the season. And then they start going through cutups,

1576
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:42,840
Speaker 4: right like, they just start going through highlight rips to

1577
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:44,360
Speaker 4: try and figure out who they like, or they're going

1578
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 4: through coaches film to quickly, you know, go through And

1579
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 4: if you're trying to go through hundreds of prospects, you

1580
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 4: know during the few hours a week that you have

1581
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,280
Speaker 4: to prep for the draft, I don't know how you

1582
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 4: get a real sense of any of them. So to me,

1583
01:18:57,880 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 4: I would tell fans it's the same thing when you

1584
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 4: want want to know if your team drafted, Well, what

1585
01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 4: I would do is I would take each of the

1586
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:06,439
Speaker 4: prospects that your team drafted, and I go out to

1587
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 4: Twitter Acts and I would find one of the reporters

1588
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 4: that covered the team that that kid played for, and

1589
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 4: I just send send a tweet to that person and

1590
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,760
Speaker 4: be like, hey, who is estimate you know? And let

1591
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 4: the Notre Dame person tell you who that person is.

1592
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 4: Because I'm telling you, college football writers reporters know these

1593
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 4: kids in and out, and they're so much more accurate.

1594
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,120
Speaker 4: The number of times I've had Ian Fitzimmons, whos a

1595
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 4: close buddy of mine, come in and say, now that

1596
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 4: guy can't play, and he's been right because he covers

1597
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 4: college football at the highest possible level. I just think

1598
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 4: we should we should spend more time leaning on those guys.

1599
01:19:36,920 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, listen to the guys who do this on a

1600
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 3: day to day basis. The logan bills those types. Even

1601
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 3: kiper Kyper doesn't spend the entire season watching the NFL

1602
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 3: and then switching gears. He literally does one thing, you know,

1603
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 3: and talks to scouts and all that stuff. Lean on

1604
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 3: those sorts of people and they're and their insights, and

1605
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 3: also lean on your own. Look I talk about we get.

1606
01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: Excited after that.

1607
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I could have. I could have told you

1608
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 3: when the Raiders drafted JaMarcus Rousso was gonna be a disaster.

1609
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 3: I said it the day that it happened, because I

1610
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 3: actually watched him play and it wasn't just in a

1611
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:07,240
Speaker 3: bowl game against Notre Dame. I was like, this guy's

1612
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 3: not gonna get it, and sure enough he wasn't.

1613
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm with it, you know, all right where the fells

1614
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:21,479
Speaker 1: as we hang Fox Sports Radio, Well that sauce a

1615
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: good good, good good morning, Ay buddy, happy happy Fox

1616
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 1: Sports Saturday all around the country. Jason fitz Kevin figures,

1617
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm Anthony Gargana. We're brocasting live from the ti rack

1618
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: dot Com studios. Tire rack dot com. We're gonna help

1619
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: you get there. And on matt Selection, fast free shipping,

1620
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 1: free roadizer protection, over ten thousand recommended installers, Tyra dot

1621
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:49,120
Speaker 1: com the.

1622
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:51,920
Speaker 2: Way tire buying should be.

1623
01:20:54,360 --> 01:20:56,880
Speaker 1: So if you just tuned in, talk a lot of

1624
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 1: free agency, because free agency kicks off on on Monday,

1625
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:05,519
Speaker 1: and then you got the first the tampering period and

1626
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:10,720
Speaker 1: you can sign on Wednesday. And in reality, it's not

1627
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 1: it's it's not a great class. I mean, you've got

1628
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:17,080
Speaker 1: a couple of good defensive players. I mean obviously, uh,

1629
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, with Simmons being added to the mix, it

1630
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 1: makes a little bit more pronounced.

1631
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 5: Uh.

1632
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: But the quarterbacks, because of the nature of the position,

1633
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:32,880
Speaker 1: always take forefront. And I Kirk Cousins, I just don't

1634
01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: get it, like Baker Mayfield and Kirk Cousins, And I say,

1635
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:41,599
Speaker 1: you know, forget that, you know, I mean I I

1636
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: I'm not spending money, you know.

1637
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 4: But so let me ask you this, because this is

1638
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 4: a great, great debate for a lot of teams. We

1639
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 4: have more teams right now that need a quarterback than

1640
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 4: quarterbacks that are available that you can bank on. So

1641
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:59,320
Speaker 4: what do you do if your team that's you know,

1642
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,040
Speaker 4: in the middle of the pack, you need a quarterback,

1643
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 4: and you look around, Let's say even a team like Pittsburgh.

1644
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 4: Let's say you look around and man, you don't like

1645
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 4: the Kirk Cousins as your long term option. You don't

1646
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:12,720
Speaker 4: you don't have a shot a Baker. I think he's

1647
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,320
Speaker 4: gonna stay in Tampa Bay. You don't where you're where

1648
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:19,120
Speaker 4: you're selecting in the draft. There's nobody available for you.

1649
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:21,280
Speaker 4: But you also don't like the option that you have, Like,

1650
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,679
Speaker 4: do you just run it back with Kenny Pickett and say, hey,

1651
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:27,360
Speaker 4: forget it, We'll just figure out what happens next year,

1652
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 4: or do you are you sort of forced to take

1653
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:33,080
Speaker 4: action and sign somebody that maybe you don't love, but

1654
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,600
Speaker 4: it's better than nothing, like is I'm not trying to

1655
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 4: diminish Kirk Cousins to better than nothing. I just think

1656
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 4: that Minnesota, ironically, Denver, the Raiders, the Steelers, they are

1657
01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 4: all teams that need a quarterback. And if they look

1658
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 4: around and they don't like any of the bone Nicks,

1659
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 4: Michael Pennick's junior options, your only other option might be

1660
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,360
Speaker 4: paying Kirk Cousins, And I don't love that, So you

1661
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 4: just you just admit defeat to the fan base and say, sorry,

1662
01:22:57,240 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 4: we tried, but we can't get a quarterback this year.

1663
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,880
Speaker 2: No, I think you look and you got to go

1664
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 2: draft again.

1665
01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: I'd much rather take a chance on Michael Penix in

1666
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 1: the second round.

1667
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:11,439
Speaker 2: Who I you know, I kind.

1668
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: Of like and I like a lot and you know

1669
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 1: I And then they go spend money and if listen,

1670
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:20,880
Speaker 1: I don't want to fail on a second round pick,

1671
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:24,040
Speaker 1: but it doesn't hurt me as much as you know,

1672
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 1: being locked into with Kirk Cousins for big dollars. And again,

1673
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,759
Speaker 1: you know, like I like Kirk Cousins, but I only

1674
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:34,800
Speaker 1: like him so much. I don't like him enough to

1675
01:23:34,920 --> 01:23:37,640
Speaker 1: go spend big, big dollars for him.

1676
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, how big of a marketers are going

1677
01:23:40,040 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 3: to be for him, knowing that he's thirty six and

1678
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 3: coming off of a devastating injury, Like and if you're

1679
01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 3: one of these teams that has a significant amount of

1680
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 3: cap space, knowing you have a glaring hole at quarterback,

1681
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:52,040
Speaker 3: why can't you have both? Why can't you draft Michael

1682
01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,240
Speaker 3: Pennicks in the second round and sign Kirk Cousins to

1683
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 3: be a bridge player for a year or two or

1684
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:57,519
Speaker 3: give him a year.

1685
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 2: Well, that's nothing. I think he gets more than a

1686
01:23:59,160 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 2: year or two.

1687
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,559
Speaker 4: I think he gets huge money. I mean I think

1688
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:04,240
Speaker 4: he's still going tod.

1689
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 3: He gets a huge contract, that's yeah.

1690
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 4: I mean, we can't have it both ways. Like there

1691
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 4: are people sitting here saying that the Jets are going

1692
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 4: to be a super Bowl contender because Aaron Rodgers is

1693
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 4: going to come back healthy. He's got the same injury

1694
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 4: and he's older, so like.

1695
01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 3: That's also Aaron Rodgers. I mean, Kirk Cousins has been

1696
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 3: a solid player throughout his career. He's not a Hall

1697
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,680
Speaker 3: of Famer with multiple MVPs. I mean, there's a general contracts.

1698
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 3: I really don't know what his market's going to be.

1699
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:29,560
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, I'm not sure.

1700
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 2: Because I think it's going to be significant.

1701
01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 3: Like you're thinking like like four years, one hundred and

1702
01:24:35,320 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 3: seventy million something like that.

1703
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 4: You know, I don't think he wants to sign four

1704
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,160
Speaker 4: years because like he's never gone long on contracts. I

1705
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 4: don't think so.

1706
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 3: No, especially with Minnesota. He's gone on short term deals

1707
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 3: with a lot of upfront.

1708
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 2: But I don't know how you I don't know how

1709
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 2: you do that at thirty six.

1710
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:53,960
Speaker 3: I don't think so either, which is why I think

1711
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 3: the metric has changed for him from what he's been

1712
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 3: getting the last seven years. I don't think he can

1713
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 3: realistically be looking for that out in the market right now,

1714
01:25:01,040 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 3: which is why I think it's an interesting you know.

1715
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 2: I think you gets you I listen now.

1716
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: I think he gets the four years somebody, So you

1717
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,959
Speaker 1: know it is There's always these teams that are desperate

1718
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: and they look at causes they go, well, you know,

1719
01:25:14,439 --> 01:25:17,280
Speaker 1: he'll be he'll be final recover. It's not a devastating

1720
01:25:18,160 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 1: career ending injury. If you're a team like as Ever,

1721
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: a guy that was mobile.

1722
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 3: If you're a team like Atlanta and say we were

1723
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 3: a few plays away from being a playoff team last year.

1724
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:28,280
Speaker 3: If we signed them to a four year deal, knowing

1725
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 3: it's really a two year deal with incentives or whatever

1726
01:25:30,680 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 3: it is, and we have a chance to win the division,

1727
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:35,040
Speaker 3: we can still draft a quarterback and say it's a

1728
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 3: play for the future. We have money, we know we're

1729
01:25:37,320 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 3: not a title contender for the next couple of years.

1730
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 3: I really don't see an issue with we have a

1731
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:45,640
Speaker 3: chance to win a relatively weak division well bringing him

1732
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:47,679
Speaker 3: in for a couple of seasons and grooming a quarterback

1733
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 3: behind him. Yeah, we might have to overspend for him,

1734
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 3: but why not.

1735
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 4: I think he's going to be in the three year

1736
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,639
Speaker 4: one hundred and ten million dollar range and one hundred

1737
01:25:57,680 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 4: and twenty million dollar range with maybe some afordable option there.

1738
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 4: But yeah, like, I think that's probably pretty reasonable. So,

1739
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're Atlanta, you're willing to do that,

1740
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 4: But I think there's enough teams that are going to

1741
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 4: be desperate. If you're Pittsburgh, you're willing to do that. Like,

1742
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 4: I mean, how many teams are going to be lining

1743
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 4: up to pay him fat money? I think there's more

1744
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:19,920
Speaker 4: than we expect. And this comes back to Kirk being

1745
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 4: so polarizing. I've heard people in the last week tell

1746
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 4: me that he you know, naturally, if you listen to

1747
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 4: a bunch of different shows, you've got quarterback analysts that

1748
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 4: are out there saying, you know, hey, I don't know,

1749
01:26:29,360 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 4: and then you've got other analysts out there saying he's

1750
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 4: a top ten quarterback in the NFL. So you know,

1751
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 4: if if you believe he's the top ten quarterback in

1752
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:39,000
Speaker 4: the NFL, you got no problem giving an average of

1753
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:39,720
Speaker 4: forty a year.

1754
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just and you look at how many quarterback

1755
01:26:44,040 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 3: thirsty teams there are. I don't know if there's that

1756
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,560
Speaker 3: many in that market per se that we're willing to

1757
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 3: give him that much.

1758
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 2: Go free agency, go through it.

1759
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 3: So let's just go division by division, like AFC East

1760
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 3: will start there. Nobody other than would New England. I

1761
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:00,920
Speaker 3: know they have a lot of money. Do you think

1762
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,479
Speaker 3: that's gonna be their play? I don't think that. I

1763
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:05,639
Speaker 3: don't think that's for them. I don't think he's for them.

1764
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,520
Speaker 2: I don't, but he could. It could be, right, it's.

1765
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 3: Possible, but I don't think that that's.

1766
01:27:10,280 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 1: Like well as a possibility. Okay, I'll put in New

1767
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 1: England as of maybe all right, they would be the

1768
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:17,879
Speaker 1: only team in that division.

1769
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,960
Speaker 3: Right in the AFC North, there's one team, Pittsburgh, So

1770
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:27,240
Speaker 3: that's two teams. In the AFC South, possibly Tennessee would

1771
01:27:27,240 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 3: be the only team and that would be the only

1772
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 3: that division. So that's three. In the West, Denvers rebuilding

1773
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 3: and don't have any money. They're not gonna throw money

1774
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 3: at him. Maybe Las Vegas would try to view him

1775
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 3: as a bridge guy. So that's four. That's four teams

1776
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 3: in the entire AFC right now.

1777
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,719
Speaker 1: NFC East Giants.

1778
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,200
Speaker 3: Now, there's conflicting reports coming out of the Combine as

1779
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,880
Speaker 3: to how much in love the Giants are with Daniel

1780
01:27:51,920 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 3: Jones and whether they have buyers or morrise. The problem

1781
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,160
Speaker 3: is you already signed them, so you're not cutting them loose.

1782
01:27:57,320 --> 01:27:58,960
Speaker 3: That's a lot, that's a large cap yit that if

1783
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 3: if you cut them looser, almost forced to have to

1784
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,600
Speaker 3: bring him back. So I don't really see anybody in

1785
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 3: the NFC East making a change there.

1786
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 1: Washington watch, they're in a draft or they're going to

1787
01:28:08,439 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: draft their future.

1788
01:28:09,479 --> 01:28:09,759
Speaker 2: Right.

1789
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 4: But if we're if we're saying, I mean, Washington has

1790
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:16,800
Speaker 4: more money than God to spend. So if they get

1791
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 4: somebody that they want to sit for a year or two,

1792
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 4: they could certainly bring Kirk Cousins in at top dollar

1793
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 4: while they develop their young kid.

1794
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 2: To bring him back.

1795
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,200
Speaker 3: If you're watching now, it's a different regime too, so

1796
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 3: maybe that changes it somewhat.

1797
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you can't prove it go back to just

1798
01:28:32,800 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: because of a fan base.

1799
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean play pretty well there. I mean it

1800
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 3: is just the money he was asking for is just

1801
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:40,880
Speaker 3: a new owner.

1802
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 1: It's a new owner, new ownership Yeah, you're you're rebuilding,

1803
01:28:46,040 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a top pic.

1804
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 2: First of all, they're gonna want to play him.

1805
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way in the world to you take

1806
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 1: Kirk causes and you don't want to back. That's the

1807
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:58,360
Speaker 1: last thing you go back to your friend. Well, I

1808
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:00,840
Speaker 1: don't think it's likely the old friend. It's the old

1809
01:29:00,960 --> 01:29:03,680
Speaker 1: it's the new franchise with the old quarterback, right, I

1810
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 1: don't care. If it's one game, it's it's a bad

1811
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 1: it's bad optics, all right.

1812
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 3: So if we're just going fits.

1813
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 4: Well, no, the only Damn's gonna say is Adam Peters

1814
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,800
Speaker 4: was in San Francisco and San Francisco definitely tried to

1815
01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 4: bring in Kirk Cousins, right, So that that would be

1816
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 4: my only sidebar to this is that if they if

1817
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 4: they believe that Drake may or Jayden Daniels whoever they

1818
01:29:25,240 --> 01:29:28,960
Speaker 4: picked second, might want a year like Mahomes got, then

1819
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 4: is there a better Alex Smith than Kirk Cousins. You

1820
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 4: know that? That would be my only different debate.

1821
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 2: I just can't.

1822
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: Honestly, brother, I don't. I don't see and I don't

1823
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 1: think the owner would go for it. And yeah, yeah,

1824
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't see, and I just think

1825
01:29:43,000 --> 01:29:46,240
Speaker 1: they're gonna whoever they take is gonna play.

1826
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:48,800
Speaker 3: See, I don't necessarily know if they have to. And

1827
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:51,160
Speaker 3: this is why I think Chicago is intriguing, because just

1828
01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 3: because we know they're gonna draft Caleb Williams, I don't

1829
01:29:54,160 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 3: think it's the worst idea to bring somebody in and

1830
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 3: make sure that he doesn't necessarily have to be the

1831
01:29:58,439 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 3: starter from day one.

1832
01:30:01,400 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 4: So couldn't they couldn't Chicago do that with Justin Fields?

1833
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 5: Though?

1834
01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:07,760
Speaker 2: So little bit to go.

1835
01:30:07,880 --> 01:30:09,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're going to go into it without not

1836
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: going into this year knowing about you know.

1837
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:15,519
Speaker 3: That makes it a little more awkward because there are

1838
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,200
Speaker 3: I mean, Justin Field is on the same career arc

1839
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 3: as Caleb Williams. They're both young, and still believes he

1840
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 3: has a future ahead of him as a starting quarterback.

1841
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,599
Speaker 3: I mean, if you're drafting Caleb Williams of Justin Field

1842
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 3: still there, you're telling Justin Fields you, at twenty five

1843
01:30:28,880 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 3: years old or whatever, it is a carriage guy for

1844
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,000
Speaker 3: a year, right.

1845
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: Knowing that he's going to get paid after this year.

1846
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't think why would we? Why would he?

1847
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 2: Why would he risk his body?

1848
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:40,479
Speaker 4: Yeah for you, h that's fair.

1849
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,680
Speaker 3: So I think Kirk Cousins would be in play for

1850
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,640
Speaker 3: Chicago as a bridge guy if that's a role that

1851
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,720
Speaker 3: he'd be willing to take. And maybe he wouldn't. He'd say,

1852
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 3: you know what, I can be a starter and I

1853
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 3: got five, six, seven years ahead of me. Uh, And

1854
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:53,519
Speaker 3: so maybe that's not something he'd embrace. But I do

1855
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 3: think that would be a possibility. So I think Chicago

1856
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 3: what would be a viable option. We mentioned Atlanta, Carolina

1857
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 3: is a big, re built I don't think he'd go there.

1858
01:31:01,280 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 3: They might have interest. I don't know if he'd want

1859
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:06,760
Speaker 3: to go there. And then out West. Arizona's already said

1860
01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 3: they're recommitted to Kyler and they're paying them too much money.

1861
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:09,519
Speaker 4: Uh.

1862
01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 3: Seattle, I don't know. Is the upgrade over Gino Smith?

1863
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, for the money.

1864
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 3: For the money, I don't think so at this point

1865
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 3: in time, because the money commitment they gave to Gino

1866
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,640
Speaker 3: last year, the.

1867
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 1: Whole conversation by saying I have no interest in spending

1868
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: that kind of money for.

1869
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,240
Speaker 2: Rade.

1870
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 5: Ye.

1871
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 3: Yes, I skipped over the Vikings fits. You're correct, They're

1872
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,120
Speaker 3: also still an option. So that's what seven teams then

1873
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 3: I think we listed.

1874
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even the Vikings. Like again he goes back there.

1875
01:31:43,560 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 4: I mean, if you're the Vikings, whattive is going to

1876
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:48,200
Speaker 4: make you better?

1877
01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 3: What's your alternative? Joshua Dobbs again, Yeah, you know, I.

1878
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 4: Mean you were asking Kevin O'Connell to just who's who's

1879
01:31:58,240 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 4: made it clear that he loves him, and so you're

1880
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,759
Speaker 4: asking your coach to just do so much heavy lifting

1881
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,200
Speaker 4: again if you can't get a quarterback. And this is where,

1882
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 4: like I said, there are a group of teams this

1883
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 4: year that are stuck in a spot where, you know,

1884
01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:16,240
Speaker 4: like it as much as I'd sit here and say, hey,

1885
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:19,479
Speaker 4: just take Penix in the second round. Well, do you

1886
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 4: know that you're gonna be able to do that? Or

1887
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 4: are you gonna take Penix with the fifteenth sixteenth pick

1888
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:27,040
Speaker 4: or the eleventh twelfth pick in the draft because you're

1889
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 4: not sure if you can trade down and if if

1890
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 4: you take Penix or bow Nicks in the top twenty

1891
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,040
Speaker 4: of the draft, people are gonna crush that team. But

1892
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 4: what do you what do you do?

1893
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 5: Like?

1894
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 1: I yeah, it's funny because I look as I go.

1895
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:40,639
Speaker 2: I love Panics.

1896
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 1: So but I mean I'm biased, but I'm I'm an

1897
01:32:44,560 --> 01:32:47,720
Speaker 1: armed guy, and I love his arm I and I

1898
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 1: and he's mature. Uh you know, I think he plays

1899
01:32:52,479 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 1: right away.

1900
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,439
Speaker 4: But look if Penicks had landing with the rad If

1901
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,600
Speaker 4: if Penix lands with the Raiders, we're gonna have to

1902
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 4: do a special Fellows. I'm gonna be very excited this,

1903
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,400
Speaker 4: Like it's just a special edition of the Fella's coming

1904
01:33:03,479 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 4: right from the draft. Like I will be very excited.

1905
01:33:05,439 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 2: I think I'm going Detroit, Are you nice? Are you going?

1906
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 5: Well?

1907
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 4: I'm covering it for Yahoo. I don't know if we're

1908
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,680
Speaker 4: doing a show, like we're gonna do a show. I

1909
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,920
Speaker 4: just don't know if it's gonna be from Detroit or

1910
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 4: from somewhere else. So I don't know that, right.

1911
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:26,760
Speaker 2: I love the draft. It's great. It really is fun.

1912
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,439
Speaker 2: It's I don't know what it is.

1913
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1914
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:30,719
Speaker 2: But didn't you always love the draft?

1915
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:31,720
Speaker 5: I love?

1916
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1917
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:35,919
Speaker 4: I just remember where I was sitting when Sebastian janekows

1918
01:33:35,960 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 4: come drafted. I remember the house I was in when

1919
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:42,720
Speaker 4: Michael Hoff was drafted, Like the laundry list goes back,

1920
01:33:42,800 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 4: Like for me, the draft has always been and I

1921
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 4: I'll tell fans everybody listening right now, if you have

1922
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 4: the chance to go to either the Draft or the

1923
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:52,600
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, not the actual game, but like, go be

1924
01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:55,240
Speaker 4: around the NFL experience. Go to the draft. The draft

1925
01:33:55,360 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 4: is such a wild experience in person. It's so much fun.

1926
01:33:59,240 --> 01:34:02,200
Speaker 4: Like every fans should experience the draft at least once

1927
01:34:02,240 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 4: in their life. It's it's incredible, the energy, it's just

1928
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 4: man like, I'm so excited right now.

1929
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,920
Speaker 3: You brought up some tough memories there fits. I remember

1930
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 3: where I was so my good friend JT. The Bricks said,

1931
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 3: tomorrow at the draft, the Raiders are drafting Darius Hayward Bay.

1932
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 3: I dropped my head into my porridge that day. He

1933
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 3: was like, well, this is another one we're going to

1934
01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:20,479
Speaker 3: regret here for a few years.

1935
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 2: Hayward Bay, Well, my god, you there are a lot

1936
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:26,439
Speaker 2: of those for the Raiders.

1937
01:34:28,840 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 5: I was.

1938
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,280
Speaker 4: I told this story earlier off air, but you know,

1939
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 4: six years I covered the draft for ESPN. The year

1940
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,840
Speaker 4: that the Raiders took Alex Leatherwood was the only the

1941
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 4: only pick in the entire first three rounds of the

1942
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:42,519
Speaker 4: draft where they got my ear. You wear those little

1943
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:44,840
Speaker 4: earpieces right, and they got my ears. We were doing

1944
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 4: a digital livestream, millions of people watching, and Humble Bragg

1945
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,439
Speaker 4: and the producer started yelling in my ear, you gotta stall,

1946
01:34:51,520 --> 01:34:54,200
Speaker 4: you gotta stall. Because no one thought Leatherwood was going

1947
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:55,920
Speaker 4: to be picked that high, so they didn't have any

1948
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:58,400
Speaker 4: b roll, they didn't have any clips of him loaded

1949
01:34:58,439 --> 01:35:00,600
Speaker 4: into the system yet, and I I just looked at

1950
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,559
Speaker 4: the camera and in a moment of very real rawness,

1951
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:04,400
Speaker 4: I was like, why do you do.

1952
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 5: This to me?

1953
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:06,560
Speaker 4: Every wed Raiders? Why do you do this to me?

1954
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:08,840
Speaker 4: The next day, I walk in, I log into ESPN

1955
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 4: dot Common on the top of the Raiders page fits

1956
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 4: bleeds with Raiders to stop. I was like, that great moment,

1957
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:16,880
Speaker 4: it's my defining moment. I just want I want one

1958
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:19,639
Speaker 4: draft where I can look at the camera and be like, hell, yeah,

1959
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 4: we are about that, like even last year. Look, I

1960
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 4: don't know if Tyree's going to be a good pick,

1961
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,360
Speaker 4: but I know that I sat there on there and

1962
01:35:25,400 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, maybe I just want one draft where

1963
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,760
Speaker 4: I could just you jump up and down screams. Even

1964
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,680
Speaker 4: when the Raiders had the first overall pick, it went

1965
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 4: to JaMarcus, what I.

1966
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:37,920
Speaker 3: Want one good one, cousin, I need one good one

1967
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 3: I slid. There was a Hall of Fame receiver that

1968
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 3: was taken right after him or anything, you know, one

1969
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,760
Speaker 3: of the great receivers in the history of the sport. Yeah,

1970
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 3: you'll remember this. Two fits a second round pick. This

1971
01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:49,560
Speaker 3: may have been Al Davis's last draft. There was a

1972
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:53,120
Speaker 3: safety out of Ohio, not Ohio State, but Ohio named

1973
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 3: Mike Mitchell. And I remember watching the NFL draft Michel Bobcats, Yes,

1974
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 3: and he turned out to be a really good player,

1975
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:02,639
Speaker 3: actually a solid play for eight ten years. But Mike Mayox,

1976
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 3: working for the NFL network at the time, kind of

1977
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 3: looked around and says, I don't know who this kid is.

1978
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 3: They had to like dig up some grainy film from

1979
01:36:11,160 --> 01:36:14,599
Speaker 3: YouTube and scramble together a report because he basically wasn't

1980
01:36:14,640 --> 01:36:16,160
Speaker 3: on anybody's board at all.

1981
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, because that was premaction. Yeah.

1982
01:36:19,280 --> 01:36:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was just a fast guy out of

1983
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 3: Ohio that you know, had a bunch of great you know,

1984
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 3: workout the records, but wasn't really on anybody's radar.

1985
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's incredible. It's awesome. Well, I mean.

1986
01:36:33,720 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm entertained by you guys, so it's yeah, it's awesome.

1987
01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:40,200
Speaker 1: My own hard stories that I'll give you. But uh,

1988
01:36:41,080 --> 01:36:44,800
Speaker 1: but my man, Nick listening right now brings up a good,

1989
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:49,080
Speaker 1: great point. If you're a team that wants your guy

1990
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: to sit like you want to draft and whether it's

1991
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 1: Jade Daniels or whomever Drake may and you want somebody

1992
01:36:57,640 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 1: to play instead of Kirk Cousins, why not Joe Flacco?

1993
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:05,200
Speaker 3: He would be I'm surprised he's not at the top

1994
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 3: or close to the top of the list of free

1995
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:10,439
Speaker 3: agent quarterbacks. Considering how you perform last year, his name

1996
01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:11,200
Speaker 3: doesn't pop up.

1997
01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:17,200
Speaker 1: I almost would rather Flaco because he comes cheap and

1998
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:19,680
Speaker 1: it's only a year commitment.

1999
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there's a greater understanding of what his role

2000
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 3: is because I still think that there's a belief in

2001
01:37:25,560 --> 01:37:27,519
Speaker 3: for Kirk Cousins. If I come back and I'm healthy

2002
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 3: at thirty six, we know how quarterbacks you know, play

2003
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,519
Speaker 3: and how you know pass. Happy the league is these days?

2004
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 3: If you're Kirk Cousins, he's like, why can't I play

2005
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:36,679
Speaker 3: for another five years at a high level?

2006
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2007
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 3: You know, so he might not be thinking that I'm

2008
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 3: in the twilight of my career.

2009
01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,879
Speaker 4: Are we under selling how good Alex Smith was considered

2010
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:45,960
Speaker 4: to be at that moment. I know that, like Alex

2011
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:49,240
Speaker 4: Smith was up and down, But when the Chiefs decided

2012
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:51,880
Speaker 4: to go to Mahomes after year one, it was not

2013
01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 4: universally applauded as this great decision. There were plenty of

2014
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:58,400
Speaker 4: people that are, like, you're a playoff team, why would

2015
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 4: you possibly get rid of your playoff caliber quarterback? So

2016
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 4: I think Alex Smith is much closer to the current

2017
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:07,280
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins in this analogy than Joe Flacco. I mean,

2018
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,040
Speaker 4: Flacco played very well at the end of last year,

2019
01:38:09,120 --> 01:38:11,920
Speaker 4: taking nothing away from that, but Alex Smith still, I mean,

2020
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 4: he was traded to go be play elsewhere and try

2021
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 4: and be a playoff caliber quarterback, right, so he was

2022
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:20,800
Speaker 4: he was better than Flacco is right now.

2023
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, the only question is an Alex Smith, how much better.

2024
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:33,680
Speaker 1: Money wise? Like, like that's the thing, like is it

2025
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 1: worth x amount over Flacco? Who's going to cost you

2026
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:39,080
Speaker 1: much less?

2027
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 5: Right?

2028
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:46,040
Speaker 1: That's why to me, Flaco plus the limited commitment is

2029
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 1: more attractive to me.

2030
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:52,880
Speaker 4: If you're I think it depends on where your team

2031
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,360
Speaker 4: really is. Like, is Justin Jefferson going to be excited

2032
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,040
Speaker 4: about catching balls from Flacco this year?

2033
01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:58,720
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2034
01:38:59,000 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 4: I just I don't know that if you're defying last year.

2035
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 1: I mean, like like the Brown's offense moved better with

2036
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 1: Flacco than it did with Deshaun Watson.

2037
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:14,320
Speaker 4: That is very very true. That's very true. I'm just

2038
01:39:15,160 --> 01:39:17,439
Speaker 4: I feel like you're selling much more of a playoff

2039
01:39:17,600 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 4: mindset or hope to your team, at least in my mind. Like,

2040
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 4: I think we're under selling Kirk a little bit. Like

2041
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,320
Speaker 4: is Kirk really worth forty million dollars a year? Probably not,

2042
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:30,719
Speaker 4: But I man, I do think that there's wins above

2043
01:39:30,760 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 4: replacement for Kirk against Joe Flacco.

2044
01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:35,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're just those are two different players

2045
01:39:35,720 --> 01:39:38,160
Speaker 3: looking for two different situations. Again, Kirk, I think is

2046
01:39:38,200 --> 01:39:40,360
Speaker 3: looking I can be a starting quarterback for years to

2047
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 3: come with whoever I signed with in this league. Flacco

2048
01:39:43,120 --> 01:39:45,760
Speaker 3: knows that. Look, I'm you know, a veteran on the

2049
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,040
Speaker 3: back nine of my career. I'm just thankful for the

2050
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 3: opportunity to play. If you want me to come in

2051
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:51,800
Speaker 3: and be a mentor and start for a year and

2052
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 3: then be the backup the year after that, I'm willing

2053
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 3: to do that.

2054
01:39:54,960 --> 01:39:55,240
Speaker 1: That's what.

2055
01:39:57,080 --> 01:39:57,720
Speaker 2: I will say this.

2056
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:04,559
Speaker 3: Flaco still as a Hose, absolutely, Yeah, still as a host, So.

2057
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 2: I go, what do you get? What do you bring away?

2058
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 1: Like? What does Kirk Cousins do that you love? What

2059
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 1: attribute does he have that you love? I mean nothing.

2060
01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:21,439
Speaker 1: Let's be real, there's nothing about Kirk Cousins that you love.

2061
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 1: You like things, You don't love anything that he has.

2062
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,000
Speaker 4: He's cute and it's comfortable. You know, it's just such

2063
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 4: a good relationship. Girl next door is a thing like,

2064
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:37,040
Speaker 4: it's a comfortable relationship. It feels like maybe we're not

2065
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,680
Speaker 4: passionately in love, but we're in like and you know

2066
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 4: it can it can work.

2067
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:45,679
Speaker 1: It'll never work. You don't love her, you walk away?

2068
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 1: Where the fellas right here? Fox Sports Radio? All right?

2069
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:51,880
Speaker 1: It is.

2070
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:55,520
Speaker 2: Seven thirty.

2071
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:01,680
Speaker 1: In the East, thirty in the West from the tairaq

2072
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:03,080
Speaker 1: dot com studios.

2073
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:08,520
Speaker 2: Don't forget? Did you know? Discover wants everyone to feel special.

2074
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:11,720
Speaker 1: That's why with your Discover card, you have access to

2075
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:15,080
Speaker 1: twenty four to seven customer service, as well as zero

2076
01:41:15,360 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 1: dollar fraud liability, which means you're never held responsible for

2077
01:41:20,439 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 1: unauthorized purchases. Learn more at discover dot com. Slash credit

2078
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:29,160
Speaker 1: card limitations apply. Figure you want to hit us with

2079
01:41:29,240 --> 01:41:32,240
Speaker 1: some dreading, sure, why not?

2080
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 3: We'll start with some action from the NBA on Friday night,

2081
01:41:35,439 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 3: starting with D'Angelo Russell having a big game for the

2082
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:40,880
Speaker 3: Lakers twenty one of his game i forty four points

2083
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:43,439
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. He let the Lakers to a

2084
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:46,440
Speaker 3: one twenty three to one twenty two victory over Milwaukee,

2085
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:50,000
Speaker 3: second straight loss there for the Bucks. Anthony Davis also

2086
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 3: with a solid game twenty two points, thirteen boards, and

2087
01:41:52,360 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 3: three block shots. No Lebron James he missed the game

2088
01:41:55,240 --> 01:41:58,400
Speaker 3: with an ankle injury. Jalen Brunton scored twenty six for

2089
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 3: the nixt They pick up a ninety eight to seven

2090
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,639
Speaker 3: seventy four win over Orlando, Oklahoma City with a seven

2091
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:06,760
Speaker 3: point win over Miami Cleveland and overtime win over Minnesota.

2092
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:09,240
Speaker 3: So the Thunderer back to the one seed in the

2093
01:42:09,320 --> 01:42:12,720
Speaker 3: Western Conference. Washington beat Charlotte to snap a sixteen game

2094
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,960
Speaker 3: losing streak, New Orleans beating a shorthanded seventy six or

2095
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 3: squad one oh three to ninety five. You're at college

2096
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:23,280
Speaker 3: basketball victories for Boise States and Dayton. Back to the Fellas.

2097
01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 3: All right, that's us, you are the Fellas. Jason fitz

2098
01:42:28,240 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 3: Kevin figures on Anthony Gargano. And here's the deal.

2099
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 1: By the way, if you missed any part of this show,

2100
01:42:34,240 --> 01:42:37,880
Speaker 1: right after the podcast goes up, so be sure to

2101
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 1: check out the podcast. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever

2102
01:42:42,080 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts. Be sure to follow rate review

2103
01:42:45,640 --> 01:42:48,960
Speaker 1: the podcast. Again, just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you

2104
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,920
Speaker 1: get your podcasts. You'll see this show posted right after

2105
01:42:53,040 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 1: we get off the air. All right, let me, I mean,

2106
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 1: I want to switch gears for a moment, and I

2107
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 1: want to talk about the tingles. All right, the sports tingles.

2108
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 1: Like one of the reasons why we love football is

2109
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:15,320
Speaker 1: that it matters, Like it's like incredible. We get tangles

2110
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,679
Speaker 1: watching every week. We look forward to it, whether there's

2111
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:23,040
Speaker 1: a game, We're all in on the on each game. Nationally,

2112
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:27,360
Speaker 1: we're all in on each game. The only other time

2113
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 1: I get tingles with the other sports besides playoffs, because

2114
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: I love I mean, any sport playoffs is great. But

2115
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:38,839
Speaker 1: the beginning of the season, like I like, I cannot

2116
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 1: wait for baseball seasons start, and we took about the

2117
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:47,600
Speaker 1: tournament like, well, it's a college basketball Saturday, and you

2118
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:53,680
Speaker 1: got Duke North Carolina. We said earlier, no tingles for

2119
01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 1: the one of the great rivalries. I mean, you could

2120
01:43:57,120 --> 01:44:01,680
Speaker 1: arguably say it's you know, Michigan State football and Do

2121
01:44:02,000 --> 01:44:06,040
Speaker 1: Carolina basketball and you know it's one A, one B.

2122
01:44:07,520 --> 01:44:11,080
Speaker 1: But yet no tingles from any of us on the show.

2123
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:16,639
Speaker 1: Is it a basketball problem? And I'll include the NBA

2124
01:44:17,720 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 1: because it feels like it's like yeah, yeah, yeah, let's

2125
01:44:22,280 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: wait till the playoffs and there's no tingles during a

2126
01:44:26,280 --> 01:44:27,080
Speaker 1: regular season.

2127
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:30,440
Speaker 2: Is that a truism?

2128
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:33,640
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, that that's I mean, at this point, one

2129
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 4: hundred percent, that's a truism. And I'm not sure what

2130
01:44:37,160 --> 01:44:41,519
Speaker 4: easily fixes that. And let me let me always preface this.

2131
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:44,560
Speaker 4: If you're a diehard you get the tingles no matter what. Right, So,

2132
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 4: if you're a diehard college basketball fan and you're listening

2133
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,000
Speaker 4: to this year saying, well, of course there's tingles, there's

2134
01:44:50,040 --> 01:44:53,720
Speaker 4: great storylines, it's a top ten matchup, it's not about that. Like,

2135
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:57,800
Speaker 4: are are people today going to be flocking to you know,

2136
01:44:58,040 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 4: like in respective cities, is your sports bar are going

2137
01:45:01,120 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 4: to be packed today with people that cannot wait to

2138
01:45:03,600 --> 01:45:07,320
Speaker 4: watch North Carolina? Because some years that's been the case,

2139
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:10,240
Speaker 4: no doubt, is that the case right now? I don't

2140
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:12,120
Speaker 4: think so. And I think part of that is the

2141
01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:14,640
Speaker 4: fact that you know, this is what happens when you

2142
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 4: have to replace coach k as a talking point, is

2143
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 4: a conversation piece, as a hero or a villain, depending

2144
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:22,920
Speaker 4: on what you're rooting for. This is something that I

2145
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 4: think Alabama football is going to have to deal with

2146
01:45:25,479 --> 01:45:27,560
Speaker 4: as they figure out, you know, what their role is

2147
01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 4: going to be without Saban. Like it's easier said than

2148
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:32,639
Speaker 4: done to do this stuff. I do think it's fair

2149
01:45:33,240 --> 01:45:36,400
Speaker 4: to at least examine, though, the fact that you know

2150
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,640
Speaker 4: this is why I don't think that extension of the

2151
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 4: NCUBAA tournament is a particularly great idea. Like, I just

2152
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 4: the last thing I need is more teams getting into

2153
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 4: the tournament, because then I'm gonna care even less about

2154
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:49,920
Speaker 4: these games that are happening as they happen. Like it

2155
01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,680
Speaker 4: just it feels like if the NCAA tournament wants to

2156
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 4: go to three four hundred and seventy two teams every March,

2157
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:58,679
Speaker 4: then what is the point of watching any of these games?

2158
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 4: So I think, you know it's lost, but I don't

2159
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:03,120
Speaker 4: know the right way to fix it.

2160
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, look, there's a certain idea of

2161
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:08,960
Speaker 3: if you add those extra games to the tournament. It's

2162
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:10,920
Speaker 3: more games that have meaning, but to your point, it

2163
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,680
Speaker 3: diminishes the games in the regular season. It gives them

2164
01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:17,000
Speaker 3: even less meaning. But we're not watching them anyway, So

2165
01:46:17,880 --> 01:46:19,920
Speaker 3: there's an element of you might as well add them

2166
01:46:19,960 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 3: to the back end of the tournament, makes them extra money,

2167
01:46:22,040 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 3: because that's what all any of this is ever about.

2168
01:46:24,120 --> 01:46:27,240
Speaker 3: Although I guess the NCAA is fearful that one of

2169
01:46:27,320 --> 01:46:29,400
Speaker 3: these networks can grab a bunch of these conferences and

2170
01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,479
Speaker 3: make their own tournament that would rival the nc DOUBLEA

2171
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,320
Speaker 3: Tournament and render even more meaningless than it already is

2172
01:46:34,479 --> 01:46:37,559
Speaker 3: the NCAA itself, not the basketball tournament. And there's possibly

2173
01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:42,639
Speaker 3: something to that. Yeah, it's a it's a confluence of things.

2174
01:46:42,720 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 3: I mean one, yes, it's the loss of name value

2175
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:47,400
Speaker 3: of head coaches, is the lack of name value, and

2176
01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:50,639
Speaker 3: really just excitement around any individual players.

2177
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:52,960
Speaker 2: You know, North Carolina and Duke.

2178
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:55,600
Speaker 3: The rivalry in and of itself is phenomenal, sure, but

2179
01:46:56,200 --> 01:46:59,800
Speaker 3: usually it's always attached to a rivalry between a couple

2180
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,200
Speaker 3: of different players or top prospects or guys who just

2181
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:05,879
Speaker 3: played there forever and we're good players like Tyler Hansbrough

2182
01:47:06,000 --> 01:47:09,160
Speaker 3: or something you just don't have that. Armando Baycoon doesn't

2183
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 3: move the needle for anybody. He's just not that dynamic

2184
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,479
Speaker 3: of a player. It's just it's so I think there's

2185
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:17,240
Speaker 3: a combination of different things as to why are a

2186
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:20,000
Speaker 3: game like this a top ten matchup between two blue

2187
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:22,479
Speaker 3: bloods who are going to make the NCAA tournament and

2188
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:24,400
Speaker 3: are fighting for seeding in a game the game is

2189
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,400
Speaker 3: not meaningless at all, But for whatever reason, it just

2190
01:47:27,479 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 3: doesn't have that juice.

2191
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:31,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, now it doesn't.

2192
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 1: And like even the NBA, like you know, are you

2193
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:41,599
Speaker 1: it depends like are you you guys getting tingles off

2194
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:42,679
Speaker 1: of regular season games.

2195
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 3: I was riveted by that Denver Celtic game the other night.

2196
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:47,240
Speaker 3: I'll say that I'll watch that game from start to finish,

2197
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:49,479
Speaker 3: and I thought that was fairly entertaining and Denver's kind

2198
01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:52,240
Speaker 3: of fighting their stride now to FITs' point, you know,

2199
01:47:52,320 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 3: a minute or so ago. I consider myself to be

2200
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,400
Speaker 3: a diehard. So I am a guy that can sit

2201
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,879
Speaker 3: there on the couch and watch a random Grizzlies Timberwolves

2202
01:47:59,880 --> 01:48:00,719
Speaker 3: game on a Wednesday.

2203
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 1: I don't do what ever you well, but there's a

2204
01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:05,439
Speaker 1: different I'm watching the game right, because I feel you

2205
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:09,240
Speaker 1: on that and actually like looking forward to it. Like

2206
01:48:09,360 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 1: I said earlier in the show that I actually I

2207
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:16,880
Speaker 1: rarely have this, but I actually have a free afternoon, right,

2208
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:22,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, when am I watch because I love

2209
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:28,920
Speaker 1: my like sports on Saturday afternoon and I'm like Duke

2210
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:33,840
Speaker 1: Carolina six thirty tonight. By that point, you know, like

2211
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:38,600
Speaker 1: what am I watching this afternoon? And I'm like, you know,

2212
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:40,320
Speaker 1: Kansas Houston.

2213
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 3: I guess I actually think Kentucky Tennessee can be pretty entertaining. Yeah,

2214
01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:45,799
Speaker 3: a lot about Kentucky.

2215
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:48,719
Speaker 1: Actually, that's a great point, and I think Kentucky's gonna

2216
01:48:49,320 --> 01:48:50,639
Speaker 1: I think Kentucky keeps that close.

2217
01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,400
Speaker 3: I'll be a huge win if they could get that win.

2218
01:48:52,479 --> 01:48:54,320
Speaker 3: By the way, Yeah, so that's one to keep an

2219
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:56,880
Speaker 3: eye on. But you know what I'm saying, like you're like,

2220
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,720
Speaker 3: you go, I can't wait. Like college football, man, you

2221
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:04,679
Speaker 3: go is a great weekend and alba bye ba or whatever.

2222
01:49:05,120 --> 01:49:09,360
Speaker 3: You know, Right, there's also an element of because you know,

2223
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:12,240
Speaker 3: in college football every game is just so important. And look,

2224
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:14,439
Speaker 3: we'll see what the extension of the playoffs to twelve

2225
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:17,200
Speaker 3: teams and then eventually fourteen and then eventually twenty eight

2226
01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:19,040
Speaker 3: or whatever the hell's gonna end up being. But for

2227
01:49:19,160 --> 01:49:21,920
Speaker 3: next year, going to twelve. You know how though, that

2228
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 3: mid October matchup between Alabama and Ole Miss and Alabama's

2229
01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 3: already seven and oh and you know they're gonna make

2230
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 3: it how much. I'm not gonna say we're gonna have

2231
01:49:30,200 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 3: any less interest because it's football, it's a blue blood,

2232
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,759
Speaker 3: it's college football. The amount of meaning we're talking about

2233
01:49:35,880 --> 01:49:39,080
Speaker 3: college basketball losing meeting and not having relevant regular season games,

2234
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 3: I will say it was a bit of a fear

2235
01:49:41,000 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 3: for some. The more and more you extend the playoff

2236
01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:44,920
Speaker 3: in college football, the less and less some of these

2237
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:48,680
Speaker 3: regular season games will matter. So I do wonder how

2238
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 3: those games are gonna be perceived when we get to

2239
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:51,240
Speaker 3: that point.

2240
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,960
Speaker 4: Actually, that's a really fair point with one particular game,

2241
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:59,800
Speaker 4: because like, look, Duke North Carolina at this point, when

2242
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:02,720
Speaker 4: it's been this way forever, I get it. But they're

2243
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:04,840
Speaker 4: gonna play a couple of times in the regular season,

2244
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 4: then they're gonna play in the ACC tournament perhaps, and

2245
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 4: then you know, we got them in the NCAA tournament

2246
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:11,560
Speaker 4: and everybody fell in love with it. There's sort of

2247
01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:15,320
Speaker 4: an interesting like will the game matter as much if

2248
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,800
Speaker 4: Michigan and Ohio State are playing the game and then

2249
01:50:19,040 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 4: a week later they play in the newly no longer

2250
01:50:23,080 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 4: no longer sectioned out a conference championship game because they're

2251
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 4: the one and two seed, and then they play in

2252
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,920
Speaker 4: the playoffs again, like maybe maybe it will lessen some

2253
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 4: of the drama behind some of it. And I think

2254
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,200
Speaker 4: to the question on the NBA, I would say this,

2255
01:50:37,320 --> 01:50:40,320
Speaker 4: I'm with you, actually, VIGGI. I thought that that Nugget

2256
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:44,000
Speaker 4: Celtics game was that was the sort of thing that

2257
01:50:44,080 --> 01:50:45,360
Speaker 4: all day I was like, Man, this is gonna be

2258
01:50:45,360 --> 01:50:47,360
Speaker 4: a good game. I'm excited for this game tonight. So

2259
01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 4: I do think there are isolated moments to still have it.

2260
01:50:50,560 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 4: What I've had to do for the NBA has just

2261
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,320
Speaker 4: changed my mindset around all of it and be like

2262
01:50:54,479 --> 01:50:58,240
Speaker 4: this game means nothing. It's just going to be fun, right,

2263
01:50:58,320 --> 01:50:59,920
Speaker 4: And if I take it like the Fast and the Fury,

2264
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 4: it's like, look, things are gonna blow up, the good

2265
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:03,920
Speaker 4: guy's gonna win, the bad guys are gonna lose, and

2266
01:51:04,000 --> 01:51:06,439
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a wild ride while it happens. If

2267
01:51:06,479 --> 01:51:08,840
Speaker 4: I look at an NBA regular season game in only

2268
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,400
Speaker 4: that sense of like, hey, I want to be entertained

2269
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:13,559
Speaker 4: for the next few hours. I can, I can get

2270
01:51:13,600 --> 01:51:14,200
Speaker 4: excited for it.

2271
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:17,320
Speaker 1: I just I think the difference is not exciting.

2272
01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:23,200
Speaker 2: You're you're you've gotten your mind convinced.

2273
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:30,240
Speaker 1: But exciting is tingles, like like waiting Edgy or see man. Well,

2274
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:35,559
Speaker 1: I mean there's on a Sunday morning, you cannot wait

2275
01:51:36,320 --> 01:51:40,080
Speaker 1: for the games to start, well, the Raiders to play.

2276
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 3: Sure, And that begins and ends with the scarcity of it,

2277
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 3: which we talk about all the time, which is why

2278
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 3: the NFL and football in general, you know, rules all

2279
01:51:47,400 --> 01:51:49,559
Speaker 3: because there's just so few games and every game can.

2280
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:54,800
Speaker 1: Tell you from the past, all right, that when there

2281
01:51:54,840 --> 01:51:59,640
Speaker 1: were a Saturday or a Sunday after especially Sunday, and

2282
01:51:59,800 --> 01:52:01,880
Speaker 1: I look on the's schedule and I would see a

2283
01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:04,120
Speaker 1: double header in the NBA.

2284
01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 3: Or triple headers back then they had sometimes yeah, yes, and.

2285
01:52:07,080 --> 01:52:12,840
Speaker 1: I would see I'll use my sixer Celtics and you know,

2286
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:17,719
Speaker 1: Lakers and you name the Golden State or Lakers or whoever.

2287
01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 1: Sacramento Weber, right, Shack Weber, like like I'm gone, I

2288
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 1: want to do it, Like there was no doubt did

2289
01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:29,040
Speaker 1: I want to watch those games?

2290
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:34,400
Speaker 3: So what is So what's different for you? Just intrinsically,

2291
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 3: if you can even put your finger on it. What

2292
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:39,519
Speaker 3: feels different for you? We're a Shaq and Kobe facing

2293
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:43,120
Speaker 3: Weber and Baby and Vlade versus now Lebron and Anthony

2294
01:52:43,200 --> 01:52:47,240
Speaker 3: Davis facing Steph or you know, Jonnas or whatever. Why

2295
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:48,120
Speaker 3: does it feel different?

2296
01:52:48,160 --> 01:52:48,200
Speaker 5: No?

2297
01:52:48,320 --> 01:52:49,799
Speaker 2: I I don't know if it's.

2298
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:57,479
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe part of it is, like all right,

2299
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 1: like if I the Lakers like that Laker thing, you're

2300
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:03,560
Speaker 1: over like, yet they're not.

2301
01:53:03,800 --> 01:53:04,679
Speaker 2: They're not that good?

2302
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 3: Are they putting the spotlight on teams that don't deserve

2303
01:53:07,960 --> 01:53:08,679
Speaker 3: to have the spotlight?

2304
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:08,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2305
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 1: I don't there's the element of that, and I don't.

2306
01:53:11,600 --> 01:53:14,360
Speaker 1: I don't see the like I'm dying to win.

2307
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the games clearly don't matter as much now

2308
01:53:19,520 --> 01:53:21,439
Speaker 3: to players as they did back then in the regular

2309
01:53:21,479 --> 01:53:22,160
Speaker 3: seas those.

2310
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:26,560
Speaker 1: Players like they were it was I want to beat you.

2311
01:53:26,760 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 1: I mean, that was the whole Jordan. But Kobe did

2312
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:30,080
Speaker 1: the same thing.

2313
01:53:30,240 --> 01:53:31,600
Speaker 2: Yep, you know A.

2314
01:53:33,080 --> 01:53:35,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god, I was just talking about Ai

2315
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:39,600
Speaker 1: like like on a Sunday afternoon, and it was you know,

2316
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:43,080
Speaker 1: and AIS won't like that was entertainment. That was great

2317
01:53:43,240 --> 01:53:46,519
Speaker 1: entertainment because they wanted to like, they wanted to do

2318
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 1: anything to win.

2319
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,479
Speaker 3: And they knew it was a nationally televised game and

2320
01:53:50,520 --> 01:53:52,479
Speaker 3: they wanted to turn it up for that occasion. You know,

2321
01:53:52,760 --> 01:53:53,680
Speaker 3: they recognized it.

2322
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:54,720
Speaker 4: Now.

2323
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:57,760
Speaker 3: Granted, I will say, uh, the Marquee game, the the

2324
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 3: ABC game tonight is Phoenix in Boston, and I think

2325
01:54:01,280 --> 01:54:04,120
Speaker 3: that can be a pretty entertaining game. Yes, you know,

2326
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:06,479
Speaker 3: if if if the Suns have their Big three and

2327
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 3: Boston is playing as exciting a brand of basketball as

2328
01:54:09,120 --> 01:54:11,439
Speaker 3: they play, be a lot of points scored, and be

2329
01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:13,600
Speaker 3: a fly high, flying up and down game, that's the

2330
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:14,320
Speaker 3: game that I'd.

2331
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:16,719
Speaker 2: Be that I would look forward to to watch.

2332
01:54:16,920 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2333
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, now I'm not feeling.

2334
01:54:20,200 --> 01:54:25,000
Speaker 2: Here's the thing. If that game was three thirty, I'm in.

2335
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:29,280
Speaker 2: But a thirty you know, I'm at it right here.

2336
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:30,080
Speaker 2: Here's the thing.

2337
01:54:30,760 --> 01:54:31,519
Speaker 1: Prime time.

2338
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm not watching that prime time. Yeah.

2339
01:54:36,680 --> 01:54:39,200
Speaker 1: I mean if I'm home tonight, which I probably yeah,

2340
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:41,560
Speaker 1: which I will be my wife and I will watch

2341
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 1: like a movie or something TV series or whatever.

2342
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, yeah, see five thirty.

2343
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:49,320
Speaker 3: For me, it's just like, yeah, I'll check it out

2344
01:54:49,360 --> 01:54:50,800
Speaker 3: and by the time that game will be over by

2345
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 3: you know, seven and I still got the knight to

2346
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 3: do whatever, me and the wife, you know, right.

2347
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:57,360
Speaker 4: Best coast. That's what it all comes back.

2348
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:01,400
Speaker 2: I say it all the time. But if it's but

2349
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:03,600
Speaker 2: if it's a football game, I'll watch.

2350
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:06,400
Speaker 1: If it's an NFL game, I'll watch in the NFL right,

2351
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:11,400
Speaker 1: or college big college football game. Then I'll then I'll

2352
01:55:11,480 --> 01:55:14,200
Speaker 1: push back our movie told like, because we stay up,

2353
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:17,200
Speaker 1: you'll watch late on Saturday nights so that I'll be like,

2354
01:55:17,800 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 1: I'll buy time and I'll come up like ten ten o'clock.

2355
01:55:20,360 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 3: There's an element of if you miss a football game,

2356
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:25,160
Speaker 3: you might miss something important, whereas if you missed an

2357
01:55:25,240 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 3: NBA game nationally televised, great matchup or not, I got

2358
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:31,600
Speaker 3: another one coming up tomorrow, big go which I will

2359
01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:34,760
Speaker 3: say thirty years ago, excuse me, before the big national

2360
01:55:34,840 --> 01:55:37,920
Speaker 3: TV contracts and all that, you didn't have that you

2361
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:40,040
Speaker 3: had your game of the week on Sunday or whatever,

2362
01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:42,320
Speaker 3: and that was pretty much it if you or if

2363
01:55:42,360 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 3: it was an out of Marcus superstar player that you

2364
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,360
Speaker 3: wanted to watch, you only had a couple of opportunities

2365
01:55:46,400 --> 01:55:49,000
Speaker 3: to see them. Now you can see whoever you want. However,

2366
01:55:49,200 --> 01:55:51,400
Speaker 3: how often you want, and I think that changes it

2367
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,200
Speaker 3: a little bit too. It makes those matchups a little

2368
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 3: less special.

2369
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:58,600
Speaker 1: I great, I think you're spot on. All right, we'll

2370
01:55:58,600 --> 01:55:59,960
Speaker 1: get to take quick t o. We'll come right back.

2371
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:07,400
Speaker 1: Fellas right here, Fox Sports Radio. Ah Fellas, Jason fitz

2372
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 1: Kevin figures anything I get him from the tire Raq

2373
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:16,840
Speaker 1: dot com studios. So you know what else I got?

2374
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:19,320
Speaker 1: And I don't have the tingles for it. I usually

2375
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:21,720
Speaker 1: watch it and like it is the Oscars.

2376
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:24,560
Speaker 5: Movie.

2377
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 4: You don't have any tingles for the Oscars?

2378
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:27,080
Speaker 3: Man?

2379
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 2: Now?

2380
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 3: Is there not movies that tickled your fancy this year

2381
01:56:33,000 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 3: past year?

2382
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 5: Is that what it is?

2383
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:40,840
Speaker 1: Throw you guys the uh the lines? And you tell

2384
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 1: me if you have you seen? First of all, I'll

2385
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:47,240
Speaker 1: ask you if you like, how many of the best

2386
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 1: picture have you seen?

2387
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 2: Probably none of them.

2388
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:55,120
Speaker 4: It's not gonna fare well for me, all right. What's

2389
01:56:55,160 --> 01:56:57,760
Speaker 4: somebody that is like trying to figure out, now how

2390
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:00,879
Speaker 4: many times I can go see the new Ghostbusters in theaters.

2391
01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:02,480
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna qualify.

2392
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 3: Don't play the laugh track. I'm right behind you.

2393
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 4: I'm with it. I'm gonna be I'm gonna be in

2394
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:09,440
Speaker 4: l A next week when it opens. So I'm gonna

2395
01:57:09,440 --> 01:57:11,280
Speaker 4: go see it in l A. And then I'm gonna

2396
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:12,960
Speaker 4: go see it in Nashville. They got the four D

2397
01:57:13,160 --> 01:57:15,520
Speaker 4: theaters that are like the roller coaster rides where the

2398
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:18,840
Speaker 4: seats move and like like smoke comes out and everything like.

2399
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:20,600
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go see it there, and then you know,

2400
01:57:20,600 --> 01:57:22,680
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go see with some buddies and like I'm

2401
01:57:22,680 --> 01:57:25,160
Speaker 4: gonna see I'm gonna see Ghostbusters in theaters at least

2402
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:25,880
Speaker 4: three or four times.

2403
01:57:26,120 --> 01:57:29,840
Speaker 3: You get the material that's what makes it real. You

2404
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 3: can get slimmed. Then then I'm in.

2405
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:33,560
Speaker 4: Check that my veins go ahead.

2406
01:57:34,280 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 2: What the what the what are the favorite? And the

2407
01:57:37,360 --> 01:57:38,960
Speaker 2: favorite is Oppenheimer.

2408
01:57:39,720 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 4: Uh, I saw it. I saw it.

2409
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:48,280
Speaker 2: That's was It was good, great actor.

2410
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,440
Speaker 4: It was really well acted. I just thought it was

2411
01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:54,160
Speaker 4: arduous at times, like I just I got bored midway through,

2412
01:57:54,360 --> 01:57:56,560
Speaker 4: like I had to resist the temptation to pull out

2413
01:57:56,600 --> 01:57:57,960
Speaker 4: my phone and just check my texts.

2414
01:57:58,080 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 3: I do feel I did see you, by the way,

2415
01:57:59,560 --> 01:58:00,920
Speaker 3: and I do feel it was a little longer than

2416
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:02,120
Speaker 3: it needed to be.

2417
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:08,240
Speaker 2: It could have gotten more. I don't want to say action,

2418
01:58:09,440 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 2: but it could it.

2419
01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:17,440
Speaker 1: You know, so much was behind the backstory that the

2420
01:58:17,840 --> 01:58:21,520
Speaker 1: ending becomes almost anti climactic.

2421
01:58:22,000 --> 01:58:22,200
Speaker 5: It was.

2422
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:24,320
Speaker 1: It was weird, like they could have spent a little

2423
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,000
Speaker 1: more time, but it was I thought it was really

2424
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:29,640
Speaker 1: well done, well acting. Like you know, did you like

2425
01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:32,000
Speaker 1: Killers of the Flower Moon? That's one hundred to one?

2426
01:58:32,040 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 1: Did anybody see that?

2427
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:33,800
Speaker 3: I did not see that one.

2428
01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 1: It's a good story. It's depressing, is all get out.

2429
01:58:38,600 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 1: You didn't say it fits?

2430
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:40,520
Speaker 5: I no, no.

2431
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:42,520
Speaker 4: I have several friends that that went to see it,

2432
01:58:42,560 --> 01:58:44,720
Speaker 4: and I missed it with everybody that opening weekend, and

2433
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:47,400
Speaker 4: then it just didn't come back up, like it just didn't.

2434
01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:49,640
Speaker 2: I mean, I really do want to see the investment

2435
01:58:50,840 --> 01:58:52,520
Speaker 2: in time right.

2436
01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 4: Of the reason I didn't see it at the time

2437
01:58:56,040 --> 01:58:57,600
Speaker 4: that when everybody went that weekend.

2438
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 1: Zone of interest, poor Things, anatomy of will Fall behold Overs,

2439
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:07,960
Speaker 1: Barbie American Fiction.

2440
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:14,080
Speaker 2: Lives. I saw Barbie, you know, I did not. It's

2441
01:59:14,160 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 2: not what you would think. It's actually good.

2442
01:59:16,440 --> 01:59:17,000
Speaker 5: I like it.

2443
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,600
Speaker 2: I kind of understand what it is, and I and

2444
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:21,240
Speaker 2: like I get it.

2445
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:23,680
Speaker 3: I think the perception of what people thought it was

2446
01:59:23,760 --> 01:59:25,880
Speaker 3: going to be like some hokey whatever about a doll.

2447
01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,120
Speaker 2: It actually it says a pretty good message to it.

2448
01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:31,640
Speaker 2: So it's good right about the female empowerment at all.

2449
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 4: But there was a well acted and really well delivered

2450
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:38,240
Speaker 4: monologue in it that I thought was transfer America for

2451
01:59:38,320 --> 01:59:41,560
Speaker 4: a type of movie. Yeah, she she absolutely crushed exactly

2452
01:59:41,560 --> 01:59:43,320
Speaker 4: the monologue on what it's like to be a woman.

2453
01:59:43,480 --> 01:59:45,080
Speaker 4: And I mean, what do I know about that as

2454
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 4: a middle aged man, But it was powerful, powerful.

2455
01:59:47,960 --> 01:59:48,280
Speaker 1: Very good.

2456
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:52,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just you know what, I don't know for

2457
01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:53,920
Speaker 2: whatever reason.

2458
01:59:54,320 --> 01:59:56,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, wear it rings with the best picture of films,

2459
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:57,960
Speaker 3: I'm not sure. But I also don't have anything else

2460
01:59:58,000 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 3: to compare it to other than Oppenheimer.

2461
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:02,080
Speaker 1: So those are the ones who I've seen, all right,

2462
02:00:02,200 --> 02:00:04,240
Speaker 1: So the Oscars are Duke North Carolina.

2463
02:00:04,400 --> 02:00:08,040
Speaker 2: We figured that out, fellas right there. Fox Sports Radio.

2464
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 1: Well, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning, good morning,

2465
02:00:11,920 --> 02:00:20,120
Speaker 1: good morning, buddy. Happy happy Saturday, a Fox Sports Saturday

2466
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:25,080
Speaker 1: to all across the nation. I'm Anthony Gargano, Jason fits

2467
02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 1: Kevin Figures. That's our crew, Marty Mark and Ian producing,

2468
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:40,960
Speaker 1: and we wish you a very happy weekend. Clocks go forward,

2469
02:00:41,040 --> 02:00:44,480
Speaker 1: so we get the we lose the hour, but we

2470
02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:48,120
Speaker 1: get the daylight. So this is always a good time

2471
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 1: of the year for that, and then we got Duke

2472
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 1: North Carolina today. That's the big event, and we spent

2473
02:00:58,120 --> 02:01:02,360
Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about, you know, college basketball,

2474
02:01:02,920 --> 02:01:05,280
Speaker 1: the lack of sexiness. I think we're all looking forward

2475
02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:09,720
Speaker 1: to the tournament because the tournament's really wide open, but

2476
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 1: Duke North Carolina still is something special. I have a

2477
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:18,240
Speaker 1: buddy of mine who played baseball at Duke and he

2478
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:23,640
Speaker 1: took his family to Cameron last weekend to see Duke

2479
02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:29,280
Speaker 1: Virginia and it's still one of the great iconic venues

2480
02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:30,680
Speaker 1: and it was he.

2481
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:31,480
Speaker 2: Said, dude, he goes.

2482
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 1: You know, just being there, it was just amazing. And

2483
02:01:37,040 --> 02:01:41,240
Speaker 1: it's still a production. It's still a big deal when

2484
02:01:41,320 --> 02:01:45,680
Speaker 1: you're down there, So that kind of makes sense, you know, FITZI.

2485
02:01:45,960 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, look, Duke is not a I've never hidden

2486
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,800
Speaker 4: the fact that my hatred for Duke runs deep, given

2487
02:01:54,840 --> 02:01:57,280
Speaker 4: my UNLV love. But I will say this. I was

2488
02:01:57,480 --> 02:02:00,760
Speaker 4: in Cameron for the shoe blowout game on I was there,

2489
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:05,120
Speaker 4: watched it go down, and it was the vibe in

2490
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:08,040
Speaker 4: that place is electric, and that's one of the things

2491
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:10,200
Speaker 4: that I do truly love. For all the things that

2492
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:13,000
Speaker 4: we've said today that have been negative about college basketball,

2493
02:02:13,320 --> 02:02:15,720
Speaker 4: one of the things that is really incredible, and I

2494
02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:17,760
Speaker 4: don't care whether we're talking about Duke or whether you're

2495
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:21,040
Speaker 4: talking about any of the blue bloods, when you tune

2496
02:02:21,080 --> 02:02:24,280
Speaker 4: these games in on Saturday, the crowds and the energy

2497
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:27,920
Speaker 4: from the fans in the room. Man, when it's hitting,

2498
02:02:28,440 --> 02:02:31,760
Speaker 4: it's amazing. Like there's nothing more painful than watching a

2499
02:02:32,000 --> 02:02:35,720
Speaker 4: barely full arena that nobody cares about a college basketball game.

2500
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:39,040
Speaker 4: And there's nothing more magical on these Saturdays than seeing

2501
02:02:39,560 --> 02:02:42,760
Speaker 4: a packed SEC or Big ten or Big twelve arena

2502
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:45,240
Speaker 4: where everybody's fired up and the chances are going. And

2503
02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:49,240
Speaker 4: Duke is actually absolutely the epitome of that. Like there's

2504
02:02:49,320 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 4: no Duke North Carolina. Part of the reason it does

2505
02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:54,760
Speaker 4: usually give people the tingles is not just the players,

2506
02:02:54,840 --> 02:02:56,880
Speaker 4: not just the coaches, but the experience that you'll get

2507
02:02:56,920 --> 02:02:59,520
Speaker 4: when you're watching the broadcast, hearing the fans.

2508
02:03:00,520 --> 02:03:02,520
Speaker 3: Which makes it all the more weird that there's just

2509
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:07,280
Speaker 3: no cash to it, you know, no factoring all of

2510
02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:07,840
Speaker 3: that into it.

2511
02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:13,240
Speaker 1: And to your point, fig you know, you're talking about

2512
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:18,200
Speaker 1: a game between two ranked teams, top ten teams, six

2513
02:03:18,520 --> 02:03:22,080
Speaker 1: seventy v nine legit chances to make a deep run

2514
02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:24,960
Speaker 1: of the tournament, both of both twenty four and six. Yeah,

2515
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:29,320
Speaker 1: like I still can't figure.

2516
02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:30,840
Speaker 3: Out teams that are fighting for like a two to

2517
02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:32,360
Speaker 3: three seed on the cut, right.

2518
02:03:32,440 --> 02:03:32,640
Speaker 5: You know.

2519
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 4: That is an interesting part of this when you take

2520
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:41,200
Speaker 4: another layer to all of it, because I think we

2521
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,720
Speaker 4: can all agree as college football fans that when a

2522
02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 4: team is playing well, you just want to watch it.

2523
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:48,960
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if you've got two good teams playing

2524
02:03:49,200 --> 02:03:51,960
Speaker 4: It doesn't matter if suddenly it's two teams you don't

2525
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:53,800
Speaker 4: care about. If there are two teams that are playing

2526
02:03:53,880 --> 02:03:56,200
Speaker 4: well that are respect if you get a top ten

2527
02:03:56,240 --> 02:03:58,160
Speaker 4: matchup in college football, doesn't matter if you don't like

2528
02:03:58,240 --> 02:04:01,240
Speaker 4: the teams, you will flock to it. That is absolutely true.

2529
02:04:01,560 --> 02:04:03,520
Speaker 4: It is a rare part of this that this is

2530
02:04:03,600 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 4: a great matchup brand wise. These are good teams, Like

2531
02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:09,240
Speaker 4: there's nothing, they're not doing anything wrong. We're just not

2532
02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:12,400
Speaker 4: flocking to it, I know.

2533
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:14,000
Speaker 2: And it's like bugging me.

2534
02:04:15,400 --> 02:04:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a shame.

2535
02:04:16,680 --> 02:04:20,560
Speaker 1: It's bugging me. I just feel like I don't like

2536
02:04:20,760 --> 02:04:24,320
Speaker 1: feeling that way. And I don't know if you know

2537
02:04:24,480 --> 02:04:28,240
Speaker 1: we've there has been such drastic change over the last

2538
02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:36,560
Speaker 1: seven years, say, like really since you know, the pandemic.

2539
02:04:38,280 --> 02:04:38,720
Speaker 2: We've had.

2540
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:43,560
Speaker 1: I mean, the landscape's changed a lot. We've also lost

2541
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:50,440
Speaker 1: some long time coaches, broadcasters, and we've seen the change.

2542
02:04:51,280 --> 02:04:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean, some of the changes I like, but like

2543
02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:57,920
Speaker 1: we've seen the attritionity kind of take place. And maybe

2544
02:04:58,040 --> 02:05:01,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of the sudden change that's happened over the

2545
02:05:01,680 --> 02:05:03,840
Speaker 1: last you know, five to seven years.

2546
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:04,400
Speaker 2: Is that fair?

2547
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:05,960
Speaker 5: That's right?

2548
02:05:06,040 --> 02:05:08,040
Speaker 4: Can I tell you one change it? I can't wrap

2549
02:05:08,120 --> 02:05:10,680
Speaker 4: my head around every single Saturday when I'm watching the

2550
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:14,400
Speaker 4: the Fox, uh the game and they start playing the

2551
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:17,360
Speaker 4: nb NBA on NBC theme, I can't get. That's one

2552
02:05:17,400 --> 02:05:19,280
Speaker 4: thing I can't get my head right. Frond the bout

2553
02:05:21,640 --> 02:05:25,280
Speaker 4: like that part of Yeah, that being part of college basketball.

2554
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:26,920
Speaker 4: That's weird for me. It's weird for me all Like,

2555
02:05:27,080 --> 02:05:29,040
Speaker 4: every time I hear it, I just want MJ to

2556
02:05:29,120 --> 02:05:29,800
Speaker 4: take on Magic.

2557
02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:30,560
Speaker 5: That's what I want.

2558
02:05:30,720 --> 02:05:32,600
Speaker 3: I want to hear Marv Albert coming up.

2559
02:05:32,800 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 2: But it's the New York Knicks.

2560
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:37,200
Speaker 3: I know, That's what I'm That's what I'm listening for,

2561
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:41,200
Speaker 3: you know exactly monologue from Bob Costas before Roun Marv

2562
02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:47,080
Speaker 3: Albert chimes in, you know, yes, yes, yes, it is

2563
02:05:47,240 --> 02:05:49,520
Speaker 3: very it's very odd to hear that as Creighton you

2564
02:05:49,600 --> 02:05:52,040
Speaker 3: know takes on you know whoever.

2565
02:05:52,240 --> 02:05:56,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's funny.

2566
02:05:56,880 --> 02:06:00,720
Speaker 1: Conversely, like all I love is that like the CBS,

2567
02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:05,320
Speaker 1: but the CBS college basketball is that's to me.

2568
02:06:05,480 --> 02:06:10,480
Speaker 3: Colleg's iconic. It's a song that you never changed, no,

2569
02:06:10,800 --> 02:06:11,280
Speaker 3: stay forever.

2570
02:06:12,360 --> 02:06:13,880
Speaker 4: Well, look and if I got to make the choice

2571
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:18,040
Speaker 4: between Bubu a Basketball being part of the lexicon or not,

2572
02:06:19,120 --> 02:06:21,000
Speaker 4: I'll always take it being part of it. It just

2573
02:06:21,160 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 4: it just throws me off. Every single Saturday night when

2574
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:25,800
Speaker 4: I'm sitting there watching you know, whatever game they're giving

2575
02:06:25,880 --> 02:06:28,320
Speaker 4: us for the Fox late night game, I'm always I

2576
02:06:28,360 --> 02:06:30,400
Speaker 4: always sit there and think, man, this this music just

2577
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:31,120
Speaker 4: hits me weird.

2578
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:34,560
Speaker 3: It's just an odd fit. It very odd fit, is

2579
02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 3: what it is. You like it, but yeah, you just

2580
02:06:36,680 --> 02:06:37,480
Speaker 3: don't know if you like it?

2581
02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:42,080
Speaker 2: There? How about the broadcasters.

2582
02:06:44,160 --> 02:06:46,280
Speaker 1: Like that's also a part of it because we've seen

2583
02:06:46,360 --> 02:06:50,560
Speaker 1: a lot of change, sure in the booth or you know,

2584
02:06:51,240 --> 02:06:52,480
Speaker 1: on the court court side.

2585
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:54,560
Speaker 4: I think that's stuck.

2586
02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:55,920
Speaker 2: I stole miss Billy Packer.

2587
02:06:55,960 --> 02:06:58,440
Speaker 1: I have to be honest with you as much as

2588
02:06:58,480 --> 02:07:01,680
Speaker 1: he was mister acc And at times they couldn't stand.

2589
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:04,600
Speaker 3: A very crimodgey especially. I'd say the last six seven years,

2590
02:07:05,000 --> 02:07:06,400
Speaker 3: I'm going to war a little bit.

2591
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:10,400
Speaker 1: You know what it is the voice Verne lund Quist

2592
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:13,680
Speaker 1: vern was the best right Billy packer.

2593
02:07:13,880 --> 02:07:17,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just hear the you know that.

2594
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:22,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right. Like that's part of the

2595
02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:24,760
Speaker 4: magic of the broadcast. You know, there's there's part of

2596
02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:25,680
Speaker 4: the vibe.

2597
02:07:26,760 --> 02:07:29,960
Speaker 2: Double Order still got raftery. I mean you know that guy.

2598
02:07:30,040 --> 02:07:31,360
Speaker 3: Hopefully he stays around forever.

2599
02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:40,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, Double Order, Like, yeah, like that's where you get thoughts,

2600
02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:43,080
Speaker 8: you know, of course.

2601
02:07:43,440 --> 02:07:46,640
Speaker 4: But I will say for all of this conversation, March

2602
02:07:46,720 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 4: madness is going to fix all of this, at least

2603
02:07:49,200 --> 02:07:50,320
Speaker 4: in that sense, because.

2604
02:07:50,120 --> 02:07:51,760
Speaker 2: Agreed, it is such a.

2605
02:07:51,880 --> 02:07:55,560
Speaker 4: Wildly wide open year that like everybody's bracket's just going

2606
02:07:55,640 --> 02:07:58,400
Speaker 4: to be absolutely hosed, right, and so that's going to

2607
02:07:58,440 --> 02:08:02,000
Speaker 4: be amazing and the number of incredible matchups we're gonna

2608
02:08:02,040 --> 02:08:04,520
Speaker 4: get where. I just feel like upsets are gonna be everywhere,

2609
02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:07,520
Speaker 4: you know, So, I yeah, I'm in fact.

2610
02:08:07,560 --> 02:08:09,600
Speaker 2: Are they upsets? If it's wide open?

2611
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:13,640
Speaker 4: That's fair. Let me say brands losing are gonna be everywhere?

2612
02:08:13,680 --> 02:08:16,120
Speaker 4: Say it that, like, so I have no idea Who's

2613
02:08:16,120 --> 02:08:18,000
Speaker 4: gonna win it all? This year? None? And I think

2614
02:08:18,040 --> 02:08:18,600
Speaker 4: that's amazing.

2615
02:08:19,200 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I don't know if it's great

2616
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:22,520
Speaker 3: for the sport or not, but I would just say

2617
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,360
Speaker 3: as a fan of the sport, I love being able

2618
02:08:24,360 --> 02:08:26,720
Speaker 3: to go into a tournament not knowing or not having

2619
02:08:26,760 --> 02:08:28,560
Speaker 3: a solid idea of who's gonna win. It makes all

2620
02:08:28,600 --> 02:08:30,720
Speaker 3: the games that are more intriguing or exciting.

2621
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:31,680
Speaker 5: I know you do.

2622
02:08:32,640 --> 02:08:34,920
Speaker 3: You're a You're a dynasty guy. I'm a parody guy.

2623
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:36,720
Speaker 3: This has always been a thing, you know.

2624
02:08:36,720 --> 02:08:39,840
Speaker 1: What it is too like, I just want to know. Listen,

2625
02:08:40,080 --> 02:08:44,600
Speaker 1: I'll meet you halfway. Give me, you know, four teams,

2626
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:49,440
Speaker 1: five teams that I know have like a real shot.

2627
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:55,640
Speaker 1: Maybe there is a you know, some sort of crazy

2628
02:08:55,840 --> 02:09:00,880
Speaker 1: run right right, Well, give me give me four or

2629
02:09:00,880 --> 02:09:04,200
Speaker 1: five teams that go wow, these teams are shit.

2630
02:09:06,200 --> 02:09:09,440
Speaker 4: I think historically to the fandom has supported that. People

2631
02:09:09,600 --> 02:09:12,480
Speaker 4: seem to love you know, early round upsets they're chaotic,

2632
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:14,560
Speaker 4: and then when we get to the final four kind

2633
02:09:14,560 --> 02:09:16,360
Speaker 4: of watch your blue bloods, you know, and that's whats

2634
02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:19,840
Speaker 4: But and this year, certainly, you know, I'm not taking

2635
02:09:19,880 --> 02:09:22,920
Speaker 4: anything away from what schools like Houston and Connecticut have

2636
02:09:23,040 --> 02:09:25,280
Speaker 4: done consistently. I think we all agree on the show

2637
02:09:25,320 --> 02:09:27,800
Speaker 4: every week that we don't believe in Purdue yet. But

2638
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:31,680
Speaker 4: I think there is some some element of is this

2639
02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:35,120
Speaker 4: year the ones that you can bank on? Houston and Connecticut?

2640
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:37,440
Speaker 4: Do they have this massive like are people in Montana

2641
02:09:37,480 --> 02:09:39,520
Speaker 4: flocking to watch Houston the way that they do to

2642
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:42,000
Speaker 4: watch Duke. The answer to that to me is no.

2643
02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:44,000
Speaker 4: So I think that's part of why say it's such

2644
02:09:44,040 --> 02:09:46,080
Speaker 4: a weird transitional time in college basketball.

2645
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it sucks because Houston they brought back a

2646
02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:51,680
Speaker 3: lot of players that they have familiar names on their roster,

2647
02:09:51,880 --> 02:09:54,720
Speaker 3: but it's not a transcended program. It's a transcendent coach

2648
02:09:54,720 --> 02:09:58,160
Speaker 3: who's been around forever, but he also was gone for

2649
02:09:58,240 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 3: a long period of time. There's a bunch of people

2650
02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:01,680
Speaker 3: will probab don't even know that Kevin Samson's at Houston.

2651
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:05,360
Speaker 3: It's it's it's just a tough sell unless you actually

2652
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:09,600
Speaker 3: follow college basketball and follow their story. Houston. You just said, oh, Houston,

2653
02:10:09,640 --> 02:10:11,600
Speaker 3: all right, I guess they're having a good year, not

2654
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:13,800
Speaker 3: knowing that they've been good for the last five seasons

2655
02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:16,280
Speaker 3: and really didn't drop off when they moved up to

2656
02:10:16,320 --> 02:10:18,400
Speaker 3: the acc or to the Big Twelve this year. But

2657
02:10:19,040 --> 02:10:21,040
Speaker 3: it's just narratives that people don't necessarily follow.

2658
02:10:22,080 --> 02:10:24,480
Speaker 1: Hey, let me run some of the headlines of the

2659
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:27,440
Speaker 1: week by you guys and get your opinion. Did you

2660
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:29,680
Speaker 1: guys see that high school basketball game in Jersey?

2661
02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:30,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

2662
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:30,800
Speaker 5: I saw.

2663
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:33,400
Speaker 3: I've seen the story and the controversy around it for sure.

2664
02:10:34,000 --> 02:10:36,320
Speaker 2: I mean, how do you not count the bucket?

2665
02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:36,640
Speaker 1: Man?

2666
02:10:37,480 --> 02:10:40,000
Speaker 2: How do you not in twenty twenty four be able

2667
02:10:40,080 --> 02:10:41,680
Speaker 2: to use some sort of video.

2668
02:10:41,560 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 3: Replay review exactly? I mean, what we it's not written

2669
02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:46,640
Speaker 3: in the bylaws. It's okay, well we saw all with

2670
02:10:46,720 --> 02:10:49,120
Speaker 3: our eyes exactly. I don't care if you If you

2671
02:10:49,520 --> 02:10:52,040
Speaker 3: it'd be one thing. If the he made a basket

2672
02:10:52,160 --> 02:10:53,600
Speaker 3: and it would have tied the game and set the

2673
02:10:53,640 --> 02:10:56,040
Speaker 3: game into overtime, and you're still playing. He made the

2674
02:10:56,080 --> 02:10:59,680
Speaker 3: shot at the buzzer, game over, they won, They won,

2675
02:10:59,760 --> 02:11:01,320
Speaker 3: The game would have been over at that point. There's

2676
02:11:01,360 --> 02:11:04,720
Speaker 3: nothing to debate. So this idea that the officials walked

2677
02:11:04,760 --> 02:11:06,680
Speaker 3: off the floor and you can't count it or change it,

2678
02:11:06,800 --> 02:11:07,720
Speaker 3: It's like, why.

2679
02:11:09,120 --> 02:11:11,240
Speaker 4: There needs to be a change in the system there.

2680
02:11:11,320 --> 02:11:13,680
Speaker 4: I also, though, hate the concept of going to court

2681
02:11:13,760 --> 02:11:17,320
Speaker 4: to change an outcome on a sporting event. I feel

2682
02:11:17,360 --> 02:11:19,960
Speaker 4: bad for everybody involved in this too, including I know

2683
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:23,760
Speaker 4: this most people don't care, but like the refs that

2684
02:11:23,880 --> 02:11:26,400
Speaker 4: made that that incorrect call, that's going to live with them,

2685
02:11:26,720 --> 02:11:28,440
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like when you when you

2686
02:11:28,520 --> 02:11:30,680
Speaker 4: talk to people that have actually been officials, they'll tell

2687
02:11:30,720 --> 02:11:34,040
Speaker 4: you that officials remember the calls they missed far more

2688
02:11:34,080 --> 02:11:36,120
Speaker 4: than the moments that they didn't right, Like, so like

2689
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:38,160
Speaker 4: most of us in life, like that's going to haunt

2690
02:11:38,200 --> 02:11:40,000
Speaker 4: those guys for the rest of their life. You really

2691
02:11:40,000 --> 02:11:41,560
Speaker 4: got to look at it and say, Okay, how do

2692
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:43,680
Speaker 4: we put a system in place that can fixate a

2693
02:11:44,080 --> 02:11:44,960
Speaker 4: very clear error?

2694
02:11:45,160 --> 02:11:45,560
Speaker 2: For sure?

2695
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:48,280
Speaker 3: Help these guys. They can't, you know, catch every single

2696
02:11:48,360 --> 02:11:51,240
Speaker 3: solitary play every time or right.

2697
02:11:51,280 --> 02:11:52,320
Speaker 4: It's just part of it.

2698
02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:54,160
Speaker 3: You have to put video to help count for it.

2699
02:11:55,280 --> 02:11:56,280
Speaker 2: You have to put video.

2700
02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:59,320
Speaker 3: And even the smallest high school gym in the smallest

2701
02:11:59,400 --> 02:12:03,320
Speaker 3: city has some team assistant somewhere recording something. You know,

2702
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:06,960
Speaker 3: there's video feeds everywhere. Somebody has video of it.

2703
02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:11,000
Speaker 1: Well, especially now, I don't know if you saw this

2704
02:12:11,200 --> 02:12:14,360
Speaker 1: is wild that's going on in youth sports. I do

2705
02:12:14,440 --> 02:12:20,920
Speaker 1: a lot with youth sports and they're streaming because of

2706
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:25,400
Speaker 1: the streaming world. They're streaming all kinds of games.

2707
02:12:25,520 --> 02:12:28,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely, they're streaming you know, six year old football games.

2708
02:12:29,320 --> 02:12:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, you know, like I you know, there are

2709
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:35,080
Speaker 1: times when I would work, I was at work and

2710
02:12:35,240 --> 02:12:38,080
Speaker 1: Mosbow was playing baseball and I would be able to

2711
02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:41,880
Speaker 1: watch him at bat while I was working, you know.

2712
02:12:42,040 --> 02:12:44,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's you have that, so I agree with

2713
02:12:44,880 --> 02:12:47,760
Speaker 1: you at this point. That's got to be instituted. Man

2714
02:12:49,200 --> 02:12:51,480
Speaker 1: uh Tyson Jake Paul.

2715
02:12:52,840 --> 02:12:56,640
Speaker 2: Wow, you right. I have the same kind of For me.

2716
02:12:57,960 --> 02:13:01,040
Speaker 3: I'm also a boxing purist, so someone who loves to

2717
02:13:01,040 --> 02:13:03,280
Speaker 3: grew up loving the sport of boxing. And granted it's

2718
02:13:03,320 --> 02:13:05,720
Speaker 3: not at its strongest point and it hasn't been for

2719
02:13:05,800 --> 02:13:08,080
Speaker 3: about fifteen years now, I can admit that. But I

2720
02:13:08,120 --> 02:13:09,760
Speaker 3: also don't want it to be, you know, turned into

2721
02:13:09,800 --> 02:13:13,520
Speaker 3: this you know, bastardized side show either, which, in all

2722
02:13:13,640 --> 02:13:16,400
Speaker 3: power to the Paul brothers, they turned themselves into great

2723
02:13:16,480 --> 02:13:20,040
Speaker 3: business people and all that stuff and whatever. Good for them.

2724
02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:21,360
Speaker 2: It's just not for me.

2725
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:23,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to watch the side show.

2726
02:13:23,760 --> 02:13:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm out.

2727
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:29,360
Speaker 4: I mean, think about when we were kids. You would

2728
02:13:29,680 --> 02:13:32,560
Speaker 4: you had Tyson friends, right, like people you didn't even

2729
02:13:32,760 --> 02:13:35,080
Speaker 4: like that you would become a friend with just because

2730
02:13:35,080 --> 02:13:36,600
Speaker 4: you knew they were going to get the Tyson pay

2731
02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:40,280
Speaker 4: per view to have gone from that to this caricature, like,

2732
02:13:40,360 --> 02:13:42,720
Speaker 4: there's no win in this for Tyson. If he goes

2733
02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:44,920
Speaker 4: in and he kicks his butt, that's all he did,

2734
02:13:45,080 --> 02:13:46,560
Speaker 4: was just what he was supposed to do. If he

2735
02:13:46,600 --> 02:13:48,920
Speaker 4: looks like a shell of himself, well, I mean, he's

2736
02:13:49,000 --> 02:13:52,200
Speaker 4: not a young spring chicken anymore, and God forbid he loses,

2737
02:13:52,720 --> 02:13:56,520
Speaker 4: that's going to be like for most of our lives,

2738
02:13:56,600 --> 02:13:59,760
Speaker 4: we could say, oh my god, you remember these defining moments,

2739
02:13:59,800 --> 02:14:03,560
Speaker 4: the way he knocked people out in one punch and

2740
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:05,880
Speaker 4: no fight seemed to last more than a minute long,

2741
02:14:05,960 --> 02:14:07,760
Speaker 4: until suddenly he was biting off in the ear right

2742
02:14:07,840 --> 02:14:10,920
Speaker 4: Like these are the stories of Mike Tyson. I cannot

2743
02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:14,120
Speaker 4: imagine having to add losing to a YouTuber to the

2744
02:14:14,240 --> 02:14:16,680
Speaker 4: end of this, Like there's just no good comes out.

2745
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:19,560
Speaker 1: Of this, No, I know, but you know what it is,

2746
02:14:21,120 --> 02:14:26,080
Speaker 1: you can't stop. It's always one more before you know.

2747
02:14:26,160 --> 02:14:29,000
Speaker 1: I know, there's an economic piece of it. There's always

2748
02:14:29,000 --> 02:14:31,840
Speaker 1: an economic piece of it. But the truth of the

2749
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:37,160
Speaker 1: matter is, if you're a warrior, you're always a warrior. Yeah,

2750
02:14:37,640 --> 02:14:40,160
Speaker 1: and it's the worst thing to do is to be

2751
02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:44,000
Speaker 1: the warrior who's just inactive and done.

2752
02:14:44,200 --> 02:14:46,840
Speaker 3: But it's just to see Mike I saw.

2753
02:14:46,880 --> 02:14:47,200
Speaker 2: I didn't.

2754
02:14:47,400 --> 02:14:48,800
Speaker 3: I didn't pay for it to watch it live, but

2755
02:14:48,880 --> 02:14:52,280
Speaker 3: I did see a replay when Tyson fought Roy Jones

2756
02:14:52,320 --> 02:14:55,280
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, and that was sad. It

2757
02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:57,200
Speaker 3: was sad to see two of the greatest fires of

2758
02:14:57,240 --> 02:15:00,080
Speaker 3: their generation. It looked like that in a ring. And

2759
02:15:00,120 --> 02:15:01,400
Speaker 3: it got a lot of pay per view buys. I

2760
02:15:01,440 --> 02:15:03,760
Speaker 3: think I got over a million about buys and netted

2761
02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:06,000
Speaker 3: over thirty five million dollars. There was an audience for it,

2762
02:15:06,160 --> 02:15:08,600
Speaker 3: but I didn't buy it because I knew what it

2763
02:15:08,680 --> 02:15:09,880
Speaker 3: was going to be, and when I went back and

2764
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:12,360
Speaker 3: watched it, it was just really sad.

2765
02:15:13,480 --> 02:15:13,680
Speaker 5: It is.

2766
02:15:14,320 --> 02:15:17,040
Speaker 1: Listen, I agree with you. It's the toughest thing in

2767
02:15:17,080 --> 02:15:21,080
Speaker 1: the world. It's why, guys, you know, the end is tough.

2768
02:15:21,840 --> 02:15:25,040
Speaker 1: You know, it's a tough thing to to come to

2769
02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:25,680
Speaker 1: grips with.

2770
02:15:28,280 --> 02:15:29,920
Speaker 4: Any of us going to buy this one. That's what

2771
02:15:30,040 --> 02:15:31,920
Speaker 4: it's like, any of us going to flock to watch them.

2772
02:15:32,000 --> 02:15:34,240
Speaker 2: No, not, I listened. I covered.

2773
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:39,280
Speaker 1: I sat ringside, literally ringside during the bite fight, the

2774
02:15:39,360 --> 02:15:44,400
Speaker 1: ear flew by my right by my computer. Really when

2775
02:15:44,480 --> 02:15:47,880
Speaker 1: he spit it. Yeah, I mean if I told you,

2776
02:15:48,560 --> 02:15:50,600
Speaker 1: I mean I knew Mike really well. I mean I

2777
02:15:50,720 --> 02:15:52,800
Speaker 1: was over the house. I saw the tiger. I mean,

2778
02:15:52,880 --> 02:15:57,680
Speaker 1: I you know, I was in Vanders Hotel room the

2779
02:15:58,480 --> 02:16:01,680
Speaker 1: three days before the fight and telling me to right

2780
02:16:01,880 --> 02:16:05,080
Speaker 1: to bet on me. He was a big underdog and

2781
02:16:05,600 --> 02:16:07,240
Speaker 1: if people want to pay the rent, and he was

2782
02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:10,680
Speaker 1: a devout Christian, And I go, you sure to promote

2783
02:16:10,720 --> 02:16:13,600
Speaker 1: gambling for Vanther? You know you really want me to

2784
02:16:13,640 --> 02:16:17,360
Speaker 1: write that. He's like, it's not gambling. I want to win.

2785
02:16:18,840 --> 02:16:19,040
Speaker 4: Man.

2786
02:16:20,000 --> 02:16:22,720
Speaker 1: He was right, but like it was like it was

2787
02:16:22,920 --> 02:16:26,680
Speaker 1: amazing and all the types and stuff was incredible. And

2788
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:32,080
Speaker 1: so now I feel you fake it's it's it is said, Yeah,

2789
02:16:33,640 --> 02:16:34,320
Speaker 1: it said.

2790
02:16:34,640 --> 02:16:36,320
Speaker 3: Tell me b Hop's not getting back in the ring.

2791
02:16:36,440 --> 02:16:40,320
Speaker 3: I know you probably know Bernard a little bit. Just

2792
02:16:40,560 --> 02:16:41,760
Speaker 3: just make sure he stays away from.

2793
02:16:41,640 --> 02:16:43,400
Speaker 1: The ring, all right, Yeah, I think you're I think

2794
02:16:43,440 --> 02:16:43,800
Speaker 1: we're good.

2795
02:16:43,920 --> 02:16:46,880
Speaker 2: Good, I think we're I think we're good. There.

2796
02:16:47,480 --> 02:16:51,800
Speaker 1: Uh And of course free agency begins on Monday to

2797
02:16:51,879 --> 02:16:56,320
Speaker 1: tampering period Wednesday's and signing period fitsy, like, how will

2798
02:16:56,400 --> 02:17:00,240
Speaker 1: you attack, you know, free agency, will you be the

2799
02:17:00,879 --> 02:17:01,640
Speaker 1: baited breath?

2800
02:17:02,680 --> 02:17:06,840
Speaker 4: No? No, I think I'm gonna It's always interesting to

2801
02:17:06,879 --> 02:17:08,960
Speaker 4: see what happens with the big names. I think we

2802
02:17:09,080 --> 02:17:11,600
Speaker 4: also are gonna We're gonna quickly figure out some draft strategy.

2803
02:17:11,640 --> 02:17:13,840
Speaker 4: I think depending on where Kirk Cousins ends up, I do.

2804
02:17:14,000 --> 02:17:16,080
Speaker 4: I do think that will play some part of it.

2805
02:17:16,240 --> 02:17:19,720
Speaker 4: And then obviously where Wilkins and Chris Jones goes that's

2806
02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:23,279
Speaker 4: that's significant, I think. But if you injectation the running.

2807
02:17:23,040 --> 02:17:26,080
Speaker 2: Backs are fun, even though they won't they'll be overrated

2808
02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:26,480
Speaker 2: in there.

2809
02:17:27,160 --> 02:17:29,520
Speaker 3: I wonder if those dominoes for the running backs will

2810
02:17:29,560 --> 02:17:31,840
Speaker 3: fall quickly though, you know, and there might be a

2811
02:17:31,959 --> 02:17:33,720
Speaker 3: stall there, you know, just like it was last year

2812
02:17:33,760 --> 02:17:35,959
Speaker 3: with the whole franchise tag situation. It would not surprise

2813
02:17:36,080 --> 02:17:39,000
Speaker 3: me if Saquan Jacobs all these guys are waiting a

2814
02:17:39,040 --> 02:17:40,200
Speaker 3: little bit. I don't know if they're going to be

2815
02:17:40,240 --> 02:17:42,840
Speaker 3: part of the first wave actler or free agency frenzy.

2816
02:17:42,920 --> 02:17:43,040
Speaker 5: You know.

2817
02:17:43,760 --> 02:17:45,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think this is going to be a

2818
02:17:45,320 --> 02:17:47,920
Speaker 4: dynamic hour of Oh my god, look at the signings

2819
02:17:47,959 --> 02:17:49,040
Speaker 4: that people are freaking out for.

2820
02:17:50,360 --> 02:17:52,200
Speaker 2: I hear you. All right, let's think quick time out

2821
02:17:52,240 --> 02:17:52,760
Speaker 2: will come back.

2822
02:17:52,840 --> 02:17:56,200
Speaker 1: The Big Brain is going to join us to take

2823
02:17:56,240 --> 02:17:59,119
Speaker 1: a look at the sports world from a betting standpoint.

2824
02:18:00,120 --> 02:18:03,640
Speaker 1: Ask him about the temple controversy and what he thought.

2825
02:18:03,720 --> 02:18:06,640
Speaker 1: He's an insider, he's one of these sharps, so we'll

2826
02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:07,720
Speaker 1: pick his brain about that.

2827
02:18:08,640 --> 02:18:09,240
Speaker 2: Lots to do.

2828
02:18:10,600 --> 02:18:13,520
Speaker 1: Where the fellas Foxsports Radio.

2829
02:18:14,520 --> 02:18:20,240
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back, fellas.

2830
02:18:23,800 --> 02:18:26,680
Speaker 1: Hey, uh, don't forget as we come to you love

2831
02:18:26,720 --> 02:18:31,080
Speaker 1: from the tyraq dot com studios. Starting next Monday, you

2832
02:18:31,320 --> 02:18:34,800
Speaker 1: can pre register for the Fox Sports Radio Bracket Challenge.

2833
02:18:35,080 --> 02:18:36,600
Speaker 2: We do it every year in a bracket challenge.

2834
02:18:36,959 --> 02:18:39,959
Speaker 1: It's awesome, all right, go to spot Fox Sports Radio

2835
02:18:40,040 --> 02:18:41,040
Speaker 1: dot Com this year.

2836
02:18:41,959 --> 02:18:43,200
Speaker 2: This is a great prize.

2837
02:18:43,240 --> 02:18:46,840
Speaker 1: The College Sports Trip for you and a friend, the

2838
02:18:47,280 --> 02:18:52,440
Speaker 1: ultimate college sports trip. It's awesome, brought to you by

2839
02:18:52,560 --> 02:18:56,320
Speaker 1: graduate Hotels where college fans stay.

2840
02:18:57,200 --> 02:18:59,879
Speaker 2: So go do that. It's gonna be a lot of fun,

2841
02:19:00,280 --> 02:19:00,600
Speaker 2: all right.

2842
02:19:00,760 --> 02:19:04,960
Speaker 1: Joining us now to talk about world of sports from

2843
02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:06,120
Speaker 1: a betting standpoint.

2844
02:19:07,000 --> 02:19:09,920
Speaker 2: Here, of course, the Big Brain, Brad Feinberg.

2845
02:19:09,560 --> 02:19:12,679
Speaker 5: Big Brain, Good morning, Anthony.

2846
02:19:13,280 --> 02:19:16,360
Speaker 1: Good morning, big Brain. I gotta get to this story

2847
02:19:16,480 --> 02:19:18,840
Speaker 1: before we get to anything else. I want you to

2848
02:19:18,920 --> 02:19:22,560
Speaker 1: take us into this world the story of the temple

2849
02:19:22,920 --> 02:19:26,680
Speaker 1: betting inquiry, which is about to turn into a scandal,

2850
02:19:27,480 --> 02:19:33,000
Speaker 1: the idea that they were one point underdog against uap

2851
02:19:33,520 --> 02:19:38,560
Speaker 1: uab and it's soared to eight. So you're watching, you

2852
02:19:38,680 --> 02:19:42,600
Speaker 1: watch this stuff daily like the stock ticker. What's going

2853
02:19:42,680 --> 02:19:45,760
Speaker 1: through your head? Take us through into your world here, Well.

2854
02:19:45,600 --> 02:19:47,720
Speaker 5: They saw I bet against Temples to the entire world.

2855
02:19:47,720 --> 02:19:49,920
Speaker 5: Obviously knew I couldn't be wrong, so they followed me.

2856
02:19:50,920 --> 02:19:54,040
Speaker 5: Obviously I'm joking. No, look Anthy, that was a crazy,

2857
02:19:54,879 --> 02:20:00,440
Speaker 5: crazy story. For one listening, I can't recall. I'd have

2858
02:20:00,520 --> 02:20:03,480
Speaker 5: to really think about it. It's so rare. There was

2859
02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:07,760
Speaker 5: actually a college football game where something similar happened with UNLV,

2860
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:10,320
Speaker 5: where there was a crazy line move but I think

2861
02:20:10,360 --> 02:20:12,440
Speaker 5: that was more based on injuries in a bowl game.

2862
02:20:13,640 --> 02:20:16,440
Speaker 5: But it's almost impossible for a college basketball game to

2863
02:20:16,520 --> 02:20:18,880
Speaker 5: have this kind of line movement, and that's there was

2864
02:20:19,680 --> 02:20:25,200
Speaker 5: unbelievable injuries, something of like, you know, a crazy proportion

2865
02:20:25,959 --> 02:20:28,760
Speaker 5: to me in my opinion, and again it's just my opinion.

2866
02:20:28,760 --> 02:20:32,640
Speaker 5: Obviously I don't know anything, whether it's real or fake.

2867
02:20:33,000 --> 02:20:36,680
Speaker 5: My guess is, let's just say someone's barber pulled someone

2868
02:20:36,720 --> 02:20:40,480
Speaker 5: who was a gambler. Oh, I heard Temple is with

2869
02:20:40,600 --> 02:20:43,200
Speaker 5: this guy's you know, maybe this game's not on the

2870
02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:45,120
Speaker 5: up and off or something like that. And then that

2871
02:20:45,240 --> 02:20:47,640
Speaker 5: guy pulled someone else, and then that guy pulled someone

2872
02:20:47,720 --> 02:20:50,400
Speaker 5: else like whispered down the lane. And again it may

2873
02:20:50,760 --> 02:20:53,240
Speaker 5: all be, you know, not true, it may all be

2874
02:20:53,680 --> 02:20:57,040
Speaker 5: completely fabricated. I'm not saying anything other than it's just

2875
02:20:57,160 --> 02:21:00,400
Speaker 5: me guessing that for line to move this much, I

2876
02:21:00,440 --> 02:21:02,840
Speaker 5: would just be surprised if there wasn't, even for the

2877
02:21:02,920 --> 02:21:08,920
Speaker 5: State News. If something amiss wasn't isn't either a found

2878
02:21:09,160 --> 02:21:11,959
Speaker 5: or be determined to be. Someone thought there was something

2879
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:14,279
Speaker 5: a miss that was gonna happen because these line movements.

2880
02:21:14,320 --> 02:21:17,480
Speaker 5: Anthony and you knew there's no sports betting very well too.

2881
02:21:17,840 --> 02:21:20,040
Speaker 5: It just the lines never happen. It never happens. And

2882
02:21:20,120 --> 02:21:21,560
Speaker 5: I say never, I mean never.

2883
02:21:22,640 --> 02:21:24,440
Speaker 1: Well, a couple of things real quick, and then fifty

2884
02:21:24,480 --> 02:21:26,879
Speaker 1: I want you to go. But just to follow up,

2885
02:21:27,440 --> 02:21:32,960
Speaker 1: so Visen did a thing. They talked to They talked

2886
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:36,240
Speaker 1: to the Borgata sportsbook director. He said there was no

2887
02:21:36,520 --> 02:21:40,840
Speaker 1: late buyback once the line was getting this six seven eight,

2888
02:21:41,879 --> 02:21:47,520
Speaker 1: No sharps were buying buying Temple at plus those points,

2889
02:21:48,040 --> 02:21:50,440
Speaker 1: which normally everybody would try to do for a middle

2890
02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:53,040
Speaker 1: and then they started to go back. Now all of

2891
02:21:53,080 --> 02:21:56,960
Speaker 1: a sudden, they're looking at games March second versus Tulsa

2892
02:21:57,440 --> 02:22:01,279
Speaker 1: where the total they're looking at February twenty fifth, against

2893
02:22:01,320 --> 02:22:04,760
Speaker 1: which Dot state were the first half line? Tell me

2894
02:22:04,840 --> 02:22:08,199
Speaker 1: if you ever seen this before? Uh, the first half

2895
02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:11,960
Speaker 1: line went from Temple plus three and a half to

2896
02:22:12,200 --> 02:22:15,360
Speaker 1: Temple plus six right before tick tep off.

2897
02:22:15,920 --> 02:22:17,520
Speaker 2: Tempo was down in ten and a half.

2898
02:22:18,480 --> 02:22:21,280
Speaker 5: I'm sure, Anthony, you've heard the saying whether smoke there's fire.

2899
02:22:21,440 --> 02:22:25,000
Speaker 5: There's definitely smoked here. Hopefully there is no fire. But look,

2900
02:22:25,160 --> 02:22:27,680
Speaker 5: I hope this isn't another Did.

2901
02:22:27,640 --> 02:22:31,560
Speaker 2: You bet that game? Did you try to go buy

2902
02:22:31,680 --> 02:22:34,360
Speaker 2: back Temple? How did you know?

2903
02:22:34,840 --> 02:22:37,480
Speaker 5: I did not? I did not bet the game, Anthony.

2904
02:22:37,520 --> 02:22:41,480
Speaker 5: And again, like, look again, in today's world, especially in

2905
02:22:41,680 --> 02:22:44,920
Speaker 5: my opinion, I think it would have been far easier

2906
02:22:45,520 --> 02:22:49,400
Speaker 5: to have done something bad so to speak, or illegal

2907
02:22:49,879 --> 02:22:53,240
Speaker 5: many years ago. Now with everyone, I just feel like

2908
02:22:53,320 --> 02:22:55,720
Speaker 5: now to get away with this, and now there is

2909
02:22:55,760 --> 02:23:00,200
Speaker 5: a game, you know, on integrity source that monitors this stuff. Okay,

2910
02:23:01,320 --> 02:23:03,039
Speaker 5: I think it's a lot harder today if you're trying

2911
02:23:03,080 --> 02:23:05,080
Speaker 5: to get away with something like this to do it

2912
02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:07,080
Speaker 5: in the sense that I feel people are more watching

2913
02:23:07,200 --> 02:23:09,040
Speaker 5: to get you on tech gree companies are watching this

2914
02:23:09,080 --> 02:23:11,760
Speaker 5: stuff to see if you're doing this. Twenty years ago,

2915
02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:13,920
Speaker 5: thirty years ago, when teams were doing it like Boston

2916
02:23:14,000 --> 02:23:17,640
Speaker 5: College issue, there wasn't that attention necessarily being drawn to

2917
02:23:17,760 --> 02:23:20,080
Speaker 5: it where it wouldn't be as big of a story.

2918
02:23:20,200 --> 02:23:22,879
Speaker 5: Now you see a line move like this, it becomes

2919
02:23:22,920 --> 02:23:26,840
Speaker 5: a big story. So again, we'll see what it is.

2920
02:23:26,920 --> 02:23:28,800
Speaker 5: I really hope, you know, being a local guy, you

2921
02:23:28,840 --> 02:23:32,440
Speaker 5: know always root for example, I hope that that it

2922
02:23:32,600 --> 02:23:35,840
Speaker 5: is nothing. But man, it doesn't look good. That's that's

2923
02:23:35,920 --> 02:23:36,959
Speaker 5: kind of my intuition.

2924
02:23:37,760 --> 02:23:39,520
Speaker 4: Stick there for one more second, though, I want to

2925
02:23:39,520 --> 02:23:41,840
Speaker 4: ask you a little more about this basic topic because

2926
02:23:41,920 --> 02:23:44,600
Speaker 4: what I'm seeing right now on social media so many

2927
02:23:44,640 --> 02:23:47,080
Speaker 4: people freaking out about these are the problems when you

2928
02:23:47,160 --> 02:23:50,000
Speaker 4: start to involve gambling at this level. What would you

2929
02:23:50,080 --> 02:23:53,520
Speaker 4: say to people that are using this as that platform.

2930
02:23:54,320 --> 02:23:58,120
Speaker 5: No, I that's the dumbest thing. I'm fifty com I

2931
02:23:58,160 --> 02:24:02,360
Speaker 5: mean you the gambling before it became legal, with like

2932
02:24:02,440 --> 02:24:07,240
Speaker 5: the fandos, DraftKings, etc. MGMs. You could I mean Look,

2933
02:24:07,720 --> 02:24:10,080
Speaker 5: even though I'm not. People have to pull their head

2934
02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:12,560
Speaker 5: out of the sand here, right, people were able to bet,

2935
02:24:12,800 --> 02:24:15,280
Speaker 5: you know, with their local people, your local guys who

2936
02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:19,119
Speaker 5: took bets, and there was offshore betting. Look, now it's

2937
02:24:19,240 --> 02:24:23,880
Speaker 5: more mainstream. But again, I'll actually argue the opposite. I

2938
02:24:24,080 --> 02:24:27,560
Speaker 5: really will argue the exact opposite. I think it's harder

2939
02:24:27,760 --> 02:24:30,680
Speaker 5: now to get away with that with people like these

2940
02:24:30,720 --> 02:24:34,000
Speaker 5: big companies out there, because there is much more eyeballs

2941
02:24:34,200 --> 02:24:36,840
Speaker 5: on you if you did attempt to do it. So again,

2942
02:24:36,920 --> 02:24:39,320
Speaker 5: I'm actually going to say the opposite of that. I

2943
02:24:39,400 --> 02:24:41,560
Speaker 5: think it's harder to do it and get away with

2944
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:46,039
Speaker 5: it because of now gambling is more mainstream as opposed

2945
02:24:46,040 --> 02:24:48,000
Speaker 5: to if you did it before these companies were involved,

2946
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:49,440
Speaker 5: I think you had had a much better chance of

2947
02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:51,040
Speaker 5: getting away with it. I think it's the opposite.

2948
02:24:52,879 --> 02:24:57,560
Speaker 1: All right, let's look at the the the card today, sir,

2949
02:24:57,760 --> 02:25:03,279
Speaker 1: Do Carolina. We'll take us through your that game handicap.

2950
02:25:02,959 --> 02:25:03,400
Speaker 2: In that one.

2951
02:25:04,080 --> 02:25:06,000
Speaker 5: It's my favorite game of the day, Anthony, What side

2952
02:25:06,000 --> 02:25:07,000
Speaker 5: am I going to be on? I want to see

2953
02:25:07,040 --> 02:25:12,320
Speaker 5: you know you're on Duke No. I am on North Carolina.

2954
02:25:13,240 --> 02:25:14,120
Speaker 5: I am on U n C.

2955
02:25:14,400 --> 02:25:16,320
Speaker 2: I think this line is we disagree on that one.

2956
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:20,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this line is too high. Look, I

2957
02:25:20,640 --> 02:25:22,760
Speaker 5: actually have in my power ratings you and see it's

2958
02:25:22,800 --> 02:25:26,680
Speaker 5: a slightly better team. Uh, even factoring in the fact

2959
02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:29,480
Speaker 5: that UNC killed me the first you know, we had

2960
02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:32,920
Speaker 5: UNC the first time these teams played, and you know

2961
02:25:33,040 --> 02:25:35,040
Speaker 5: they I thought they'd win by about ten and they did.

2962
02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:37,880
Speaker 5: And even fastering in that, you're going to get that

2963
02:25:38,040 --> 02:25:40,440
Speaker 5: potential bounce back. It's hard to win too in a row,

2964
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:43,840
Speaker 5: a SEC championship, et cetera, et cetera. I thought this

2965
02:25:44,000 --> 02:25:46,480
Speaker 5: line should have maybe come in it battering and all that.

2966
02:25:47,040 --> 02:25:50,640
Speaker 5: Maybe three. Okay, I think five and a half is

2967
02:25:50,680 --> 02:25:53,959
Speaker 5: too high. Again, I think you see is better I do. Okay,

2968
02:25:54,280 --> 02:25:55,480
Speaker 5: you want to give me five and a half?

2969
02:25:56,040 --> 02:25:59,400
Speaker 1: Like to me, that was a line it felt like,

2970
02:26:00,480 --> 02:26:02,720
Speaker 1: especially at the first game, like it felt like a well,

2971
02:26:02,800 --> 02:26:03,680
Speaker 1: this is Duke's time.

2972
02:26:04,400 --> 02:26:07,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I get that. And you know what, IFVY look,

2973
02:26:07,480 --> 02:26:09,680
Speaker 5: there is a lot to handicapping that. In my opinion,

2974
02:26:09,680 --> 02:26:11,800
Speaker 5: you just can't look at data. You can't just look

2975
02:26:11,879 --> 02:26:14,320
Speaker 5: at numbers. There is in year. You know, you you're

2976
02:26:14,320 --> 02:26:16,760
Speaker 5: a big matchup guy and stuff like that. So I'm

2977
02:26:16,800 --> 02:26:19,280
Speaker 5: not just looking at the number. That's not the only reason.

2978
02:26:19,320 --> 02:26:20,840
Speaker 5: I'm just like, oh, okay, the number is too high.

2979
02:26:21,080 --> 02:26:23,800
Speaker 5: I do get that Duke has the intangibles on their

2980
02:26:23,840 --> 02:26:27,160
Speaker 5: side today, having lost the first game and having this

2981
02:26:27,280 --> 02:26:30,360
Speaker 5: game at home. But to me, again, I just I

2982
02:26:30,520 --> 02:26:32,760
Speaker 5: think that line's too rich. I think you see the

2983
02:26:32,760 --> 02:26:34,440
Speaker 5: better team. I'm not going to back off that. I

2984
02:26:34,480 --> 02:26:37,120
Speaker 5: think they're better, and I'll take five and a half

2985
02:26:37,200 --> 02:26:40,040
Speaker 5: points with a big Duke crowd, But I think the

2986
02:26:40,120 --> 02:26:43,160
Speaker 5: game will be close. I think, honestly, I think you

2987
02:26:43,160 --> 02:26:45,640
Speaker 5: would see if it has a like forty percent chance

2988
02:26:45,720 --> 02:26:47,920
Speaker 5: to win the game. So I'll take five and a half.

2989
02:26:47,959 --> 02:26:49,560
Speaker 5: I think this is a it's my favorite bed of

2990
02:26:49,600 --> 02:26:49,840
Speaker 5: the day.

2991
02:26:49,879 --> 02:26:54,560
Speaker 4: Actually, coincidentally, you mentioned you can't just look at the numbers.

2992
02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:59,440
Speaker 4: That interests me, particularly with Connecticut play tonight, only because

2993
02:26:59,480 --> 02:27:01,480
Speaker 4: it's a big number nine and a half, but also

2994
02:27:01,600 --> 02:27:04,880
Speaker 4: because Connecticut has nothing to play for tonight. Basically they've

2995
02:27:04,879 --> 02:27:07,000
Speaker 4: wrapped up everything they need to wrap up. How does

2996
02:27:07,080 --> 02:27:10,480
Speaker 4: that influence you when you're looking at matchups, when you

2997
02:27:10,560 --> 02:27:12,480
Speaker 4: know you've got a team that essentially can go into

2998
02:27:12,480 --> 02:27:13,640
Speaker 4: cruise control for the last game.

2999
02:27:14,280 --> 02:27:16,560
Speaker 5: Well, first, that's interesting. There's three games. I wrote down,

3000
02:27:16,600 --> 02:27:19,560
Speaker 5: you guys about two or the three I did play Yukon.

3001
02:27:20,800 --> 02:27:23,480
Speaker 5: I thought this line should have been at least eleven

3002
02:27:23,520 --> 02:27:27,320
Speaker 5: and a half. I really did. From a Power Writings perspective,

3003
02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:30,840
Speaker 5: I had this line at thirteen and a half. But

3004
02:27:31,160 --> 02:27:33,480
Speaker 5: I did factor in fit see that, you know what

3005
02:27:33,640 --> 02:27:36,560
Speaker 5: you just said, and I chopped it down from the

3006
02:27:36,800 --> 02:27:38,560
Speaker 5: you know, thirteen and a half. I chopped it down

3007
02:27:38,640 --> 02:27:41,160
Speaker 5: two points because of that, and it came in at

3008
02:27:41,240 --> 02:27:42,840
Speaker 5: nine and a half. I just think it's too late,

3009
02:27:43,320 --> 02:27:46,279
Speaker 5: and so I did factor it in in my numbers.

3010
02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:49,600
Speaker 5: But again, these guys, I mean, they're just going to

3011
02:27:49,879 --> 02:27:53,280
Speaker 5: go there and not try. I can't. I can't say

3012
02:27:53,320 --> 02:27:57,800
Speaker 5: that again. I Providence to me is very med Yukon

3013
02:27:57,879 --> 02:28:00,200
Speaker 5: to me is right there is you know, one of

3014
02:28:00,240 --> 02:28:02,560
Speaker 5: the big three, let's call it this year, uh as

3015
02:28:02,600 --> 02:28:05,240
Speaker 5: the best team. And I do think they win this

3016
02:28:05,320 --> 02:28:07,400
Speaker 5: game by double digits even And this is a team,

3017
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:11,600
Speaker 5: guys that's been great on the road too. So I

3018
02:28:11,760 --> 02:28:12,640
Speaker 5: think Providence is in.

3019
02:28:12,680 --> 02:28:16,960
Speaker 1: Over their head here. So what about Kentucky today? They

3020
02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:17,760
Speaker 1: look live to me.

3021
02:28:19,320 --> 02:28:22,600
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting. I last week on these airways,

3022
02:28:22,640 --> 02:28:25,640
Speaker 5: I told you I was surprised. I wasn't looking. Tennessee

3023
02:28:25,800 --> 02:28:28,240
Speaker 5: was one of the further year. They were my biggest

3024
02:28:28,280 --> 02:28:30,720
Speaker 5: future of any Devin Purdue or my big future teams.

3025
02:28:30,720 --> 02:28:34,760
Speaker 5: And I followed Tennessee very closely this year, you know.

3026
02:28:34,879 --> 02:28:37,560
Speaker 5: And and I really thought Alabama was gonna beat them. Uh,

3027
02:28:37,760 --> 02:28:41,360
Speaker 5: Tennessee played a really good game, and they you know,

3028
02:28:41,480 --> 02:28:45,240
Speaker 5: not only beat them, then they beat uh South Carolina

3029
02:28:45,760 --> 02:28:47,160
Speaker 5: to win the SEC title.

3030
02:28:47,640 --> 02:28:47,720
Speaker 4: Uh.

3031
02:28:47,920 --> 02:28:50,080
Speaker 5: Kentucky is a team, Anthony, I've been telling you that

3032
02:28:50,280 --> 02:28:53,160
Speaker 5: I thought is a talented team that actually the team

3033
02:28:53,200 --> 02:28:55,920
Speaker 5: that you know, on any given any given day has

3034
02:28:55,959 --> 02:28:59,039
Speaker 5: a chance to beat anyone. The only way can look

3035
02:28:59,120 --> 02:29:03,120
Speaker 5: here is the Kentucky side. But I didn't place the

3036
02:29:03,200 --> 02:29:06,800
Speaker 5: bet on it just because I do respect how well

3037
02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:12,119
Speaker 5: Tennessee has played, and I just trust Tennessee more. Kentucky

3038
02:29:12,200 --> 02:29:14,680
Speaker 5: to me is that kind of team that I feel

3039
02:29:14,720 --> 02:29:17,480
Speaker 5: like I can get a good performance, so I can

3040
02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:20,800
Speaker 5: get a bad performance. Still don't fully trust them. But

3041
02:29:21,320 --> 02:29:24,000
Speaker 5: again with the spread being that it is, this was

3042
02:29:24,200 --> 02:29:26,080
Speaker 5: I mean, I thought it would come in probably a

3043
02:29:26,120 --> 02:29:29,040
Speaker 5: little bit closer to seven, to be honest with you,

3044
02:29:29,440 --> 02:29:34,039
Speaker 5: but I couldn't quite get myself. It's still lines between

3045
02:29:34,080 --> 02:29:36,880
Speaker 5: teetering between seven and a half and eight. I can't

3046
02:29:36,959 --> 02:29:40,800
Speaker 5: quite get myself to play the underdog Wildcats, but that's

3047
02:29:40,840 --> 02:29:41,360
Speaker 5: what i'd be on.

3048
02:29:42,400 --> 02:29:44,440
Speaker 4: You said you wrote down three games, We asked you

3049
02:29:44,480 --> 02:29:45,879
Speaker 4: about two of them. What was the third?

3050
02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:49,000
Speaker 5: The third one in the twenty like and again, this

3051
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:51,160
Speaker 5: is a situation where I felt like God, in a

3052
02:29:51,200 --> 02:29:53,480
Speaker 5: year's path, I would have even gotten another point and

3053
02:29:53,480 --> 02:29:57,440
Speaker 5: a half more of value. But I really believe that

3054
02:29:57,640 --> 02:30:00,360
Speaker 5: Houston is a far better team than Kansas and on

3055
02:30:00,440 --> 02:30:02,160
Speaker 5: the road. I mean, you want to talk about a

3056
02:30:02,200 --> 02:30:05,120
Speaker 5: team that two gates that I don't trust, Guys, it's Kansas.

3057
02:30:05,400 --> 02:30:08,480
Speaker 5: I made this line double digits. I did, I really did.

3058
02:30:08,920 --> 02:30:10,600
Speaker 5: There is a seven point five out there at a

3059
02:30:10,680 --> 02:30:13,400
Speaker 5: major sports book between there's and seven and a halfs

3060
02:30:13,400 --> 02:30:16,360
Speaker 5: and eight some eight and a halfs. But I think

3061
02:30:16,400 --> 02:30:18,400
Speaker 5: there's a big I know you may look at these

3062
02:30:18,760 --> 02:30:20,920
Speaker 5: two top fifteen teams. How are you going to lay

3063
02:30:21,440 --> 02:30:26,640
Speaker 5: eight points? Seven and a half points? I think Houston. Again,

3064
02:30:26,680 --> 02:30:29,080
Speaker 5: it's funny, let's look at this game that like, you

3065
02:30:29,120 --> 02:30:31,760
Speaker 5: could lay two more points with Houston against Kansas than

3066
02:30:31,840 --> 02:30:35,080
Speaker 5: North Carolina versus Duke. To me, I think North Toran's

3067
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:37,320
Speaker 5: better than Duke. I think Houston is light years better

3068
02:30:37,360 --> 02:30:40,840
Speaker 5: than Kansas, and those lines are actually comparable. So I

3069
02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:44,240
Speaker 5: will see how it plays out. But I like Houston.

3070
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:48,160
Speaker 5: I think that they're right there. Again we talked about Connecticut.

3071
02:30:48,440 --> 02:30:51,640
Speaker 5: I think Houston Connecticut probably produced third best, but I

3072
02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:53,280
Speaker 5: think they're the two best teams, and I think that

3073
02:30:53,360 --> 02:30:56,080
Speaker 5: they will beat at the Kansas team. That's could be

3074
02:30:56,200 --> 02:30:56,840
Speaker 5: very fake.

3075
02:30:58,400 --> 02:31:00,840
Speaker 2: To call the quick ones of Royacht. I like Creighton

3076
02:31:01,160 --> 02:31:02,680
Speaker 2: and I like Mississippi State.

3077
02:31:04,480 --> 02:31:07,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, well look it's interesting Creighton Anthony. Again, that's a

3078
02:31:07,600 --> 02:31:10,400
Speaker 5: team that I thought was going to have better year

3079
02:31:10,480 --> 02:31:14,279
Speaker 5: than they've had. Uh, Villanova, Look, they've just been disappointing

3080
02:31:14,320 --> 02:31:17,080
Speaker 5: all year. You know it's close, this game's closed the

3081
02:31:17,200 --> 02:31:20,960
Speaker 5: small spread. I want to like Creighton, I really do.

3082
02:31:21,440 --> 02:31:24,160
Speaker 5: I don't trust Villanova even a little bit. But the

3083
02:31:24,280 --> 02:31:27,279
Speaker 5: problem is for me, again, this line team in basically

3084
02:31:27,400 --> 02:31:30,760
Speaker 5: what I thought it would be. I just I would

3085
02:31:31,040 --> 02:31:34,560
Speaker 5: lean Creighton, but I don't. I just don't trust it.

3086
02:31:34,680 --> 02:31:37,800
Speaker 5: Now that the south south front of Missippi SI team

3087
02:31:38,080 --> 02:31:41,040
Speaker 5: look South Carolina Anthony in that last game and that

3088
02:31:41,240 --> 02:31:44,920
Speaker 5: was all in everything game for them. And again we

3089
02:31:45,000 --> 02:31:47,040
Speaker 5: talked about things. This is I like, I love the

3090
02:31:47,200 --> 02:31:51,320
Speaker 5: spot here for Misisppisi. But the line the line again,

3091
02:31:51,400 --> 02:31:53,680
Speaker 5: and this is where line makers have gotten better throughout

3092
02:31:53,720 --> 02:31:56,640
Speaker 5: the years. I feel like in the past, Anthony Vincey,

3093
02:31:56,720 --> 02:31:58,200
Speaker 5: this is the line that we would have seen Missippi

3094
02:31:58,200 --> 02:32:00,120
Speaker 5: State link too, and I would have been like, this

3095
02:32:00,280 --> 02:32:02,560
Speaker 5: is like all in bebt for me. Missippi State. They

3096
02:32:02,640 --> 02:32:05,920
Speaker 5: needed five, which you know, I feel like they're factoring

3097
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:09,199
Speaker 5: in like the air out of the sales for South

3098
02:32:09,280 --> 02:32:12,680
Speaker 5: Carolina lean here in Mississippi State. But I just I

3099
02:32:12,760 --> 02:32:14,400
Speaker 5: wish it had been a little bit a little bit

3100
02:32:14,480 --> 02:32:16,560
Speaker 5: lower and I would have been a definite play for me.

3101
02:32:16,600 --> 02:32:18,400
Speaker 5: But I'm definitely on that side. I wouldn't be surprised

3102
02:32:18,400 --> 02:32:19,080
Speaker 5: I blew them out.

3103
02:32:20,959 --> 02:32:23,280
Speaker 4: Any leaning on Baylor Texas Tech, I know that's a

3104
02:32:23,600 --> 02:32:24,959
Speaker 4: tight type spread on that one.

3105
02:32:25,760 --> 02:32:29,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, look, look bail Or Texas looks to

3106
02:32:29,879 --> 02:32:32,160
Speaker 5: me that was the right line. Again. I think it'll

3107
02:32:32,200 --> 02:32:36,480
Speaker 5: be a close game, very close game. The slightest the

3108
02:32:36,640 --> 02:32:39,560
Speaker 5: slight leans to Bailor. But not a game I'm getting

3109
02:32:39,600 --> 02:32:41,960
Speaker 5: involved in because the line was right where I made it.

3110
02:32:42,400 --> 02:32:44,040
Speaker 5: It's not a game I'm personally be playing.

3111
02:32:44,720 --> 02:32:45,760
Speaker 2: How about anything NBA?

3112
02:32:47,320 --> 02:32:49,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, NBA have a couple of look, let me give

3113
02:32:49,440 --> 02:32:52,960
Speaker 5: you a couple props I like in the NBA. I'm

3114
02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:58,320
Speaker 5: going to start off with Jayden Ivy Detroit Pistons Anthony.

3115
02:32:58,959 --> 02:33:03,400
Speaker 5: I like him over two and a half rebounds. He's

3116
02:33:03,480 --> 02:33:06,920
Speaker 5: twenty eight and eleven to that. This season, he's averaging

3117
02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:10,440
Speaker 5: three and a half rebounds. That's the edge that we're getting.

3118
02:33:11,280 --> 02:33:13,720
Speaker 5: I think that that line is like at least one,

3119
02:33:14,800 --> 02:33:17,320
Speaker 5: you know, one too low. So I'm gonna I'm gonna

3120
02:33:17,320 --> 02:33:20,359
Speaker 5: take Jade and Ivy there. Next, I'm gonna take Nikolai

3121
02:33:20,400 --> 02:33:23,800
Speaker 5: Vucivich Chicago Bulls over two and a half assists. He's

3122
02:33:23,840 --> 02:33:26,240
Speaker 5: averaging three and a half. He's thirty nine and fourteen

3123
02:33:26,360 --> 02:33:29,080
Speaker 5: over two and a half. That numbers too low. Give

3124
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:32,440
Speaker 5: me Vucevic over two and half assis. We're gonna take

3125
02:33:32,879 --> 02:33:37,240
Speaker 5: Jeremy Sosan no wemby night so I can't hurt he can.

3126
02:33:37,280 --> 02:33:39,440
Speaker 5: They'll get extra bump in minutes over two and a

3127
02:33:39,440 --> 02:33:42,280
Speaker 5: half assis and he's averaging three and emphasis they made

3128
02:33:42,280 --> 02:33:44,000
Speaker 5: it two and a half. He's forty two and twenty

3129
02:33:44,040 --> 02:33:48,160
Speaker 5: one to the over. Give me Jeremy Soshan over assists

3130
02:33:48,560 --> 02:33:52,039
Speaker 5: and I'll give you one more guys. Nick klas St,

3131
02:33:52,040 --> 02:33:54,160
Speaker 5: I'll give you two more. Actually, Nick Claxton over one

3132
02:33:54,200 --> 02:33:56,880
Speaker 5: and a half blocks, he's averaging closer to two and

3133
02:33:56,959 --> 02:33:59,200
Speaker 5: a half. He's thirty four and nineteen to that over

3134
02:33:59,760 --> 02:34:02,440
Speaker 5: and the silly Meschich guy who came over from the

3135
02:34:02,480 --> 02:34:05,560
Speaker 5: Oklahoma City Founder to the Charlotte Hornets. He's averaging one

3136
02:34:05,640 --> 02:34:08,360
Speaker 5: rebound in fifteen minutes a game. It's getting about thirty

3137
02:34:08,400 --> 02:34:10,000
Speaker 5: minutes a game now, so you pro rate that it

3138
02:34:10,040 --> 02:34:12,280
Speaker 5: should be getting around two. Well, they made us over

3139
02:34:12,400 --> 02:34:14,320
Speaker 5: under three and a half. He's eleven and one of

3140
02:34:14,360 --> 02:34:16,880
Speaker 5: the unders since he got traded there. I'll take Mitchitch

3141
02:34:16,920 --> 02:34:19,480
Speaker 5: under what three and henh rebounds and then in the

3142
02:34:19,560 --> 02:34:24,199
Speaker 5: games themselves, it's interesting, guys. I want to like Boston

3143
02:34:24,200 --> 02:34:27,880
Speaker 5: today and that I think after the disappointing back to

3144
02:34:27,959 --> 02:34:32,160
Speaker 5: back games they just had Phoenix, No Devin Booker. I

3145
02:34:32,280 --> 02:34:35,600
Speaker 5: do think Boston gets roight. Six isn't cheap, but I

3146
02:34:35,640 --> 02:34:37,280
Speaker 5: actually thought it would be seven. Again, we're not going

3147
02:34:37,320 --> 02:34:39,119
Speaker 5: to talk about huge value in these NBA games. They're

3148
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:41,800
Speaker 5: actually there. From five and a half's out there, Boston

3149
02:34:41,800 --> 02:34:43,560
Speaker 5: would be the game I'd be closest doing the five

3150
02:34:43,560 --> 02:34:45,040
Speaker 5: and a half stars out there. That would be the

3151
02:34:45,080 --> 02:34:48,360
Speaker 5: game that I'm most that was most off of my numbers.

3152
02:34:49,080 --> 02:34:52,200
Speaker 1: Sounds good, great stuff as always big right now at

3153
02:34:52,200 --> 02:34:55,960
Speaker 1: the Celtics, though, big great stuff as always buddy, And

3154
02:34:56,040 --> 02:34:57,199
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next week.

3155
02:34:57,440 --> 02:35:01,400
Speaker 2: People want to get ahold of you at Brad's Bets

3156
02:35:01,520 --> 02:35:02,800
Speaker 2: right at.

3157
02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:06,480
Speaker 5: Brad's Yeah, Anthony at Brad's Best Bets. Have to give

3158
02:35:06,520 --> 02:35:08,760
Speaker 5: the shameless plug because I think I deserve to do it.

3159
02:35:08,760 --> 02:35:10,640
Speaker 5: I'm up about one hundred and forty units, spending one

3160
02:35:10,720 --> 02:35:14,000
Speaker 5: unit per game. It's been absolutely ridiculous. I don't think

3161
02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:16,760
Speaker 5: anyone in the United States or the world has my

3162
02:35:16,879 --> 02:35:20,280
Speaker 5: winning percentage. I really don't. Brad's Best Bets on Twitter.

3163
02:35:20,320 --> 02:35:22,840
Speaker 5: If you want to win money, I would advise joining

3164
02:35:22,879 --> 02:35:24,960
Speaker 5: you get all my picks, all my futures, everything. I

3165
02:35:25,000 --> 02:35:27,240
Speaker 5: always appreciate you guys. Good luck to everyone out there,

3166
02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:28,120
Speaker 5: and I'll speak to you next week.

3167
02:35:28,200 --> 02:35:32,360
Speaker 1: As sounds good, buddy. That's a big brain. We'll come

3168
02:35:32,440 --> 02:35:36,760
Speaker 1: back fellas. We'll wrap it up next right here. Fox

3169
02:35:36,879 --> 02:35:48,240
Speaker 1: Sports Radio bells, Mighty Mark gave me the bells. Nothing

3170
02:35:48,280 --> 02:35:51,720
Speaker 1: gets to be more excited because I'm a loser.

3171
02:35:51,879 --> 02:35:52,200
Speaker 2: Fits e.

3172
02:35:55,240 --> 02:36:00,440
Speaker 4: How how dramatic is August going to be for this, Like,

3173
02:36:00,760 --> 02:36:03,200
Speaker 4: I just I hear your heartbreak every week that there's

3174
02:36:03,280 --> 02:36:06,560
Speaker 4: not NFL football going on in college football yet. I

3175
02:36:06,640 --> 02:36:08,640
Speaker 4: just keep thinking about what August is going to be. Like,

3176
02:36:09,000 --> 02:36:10,760
Speaker 4: I feel like you're gonna just be a beacon of

3177
02:36:10,840 --> 02:36:14,280
Speaker 4: light in a dark, dark world. You're rising from the ashes.

3178
02:36:14,840 --> 02:36:16,880
Speaker 4: Let you make music for you.

3179
02:36:17,240 --> 02:36:20,120
Speaker 3: July twenty fourth or whenever, like the first team's report

3180
02:36:20,200 --> 02:36:22,119
Speaker 3: to camp, he's gonna be hitting backflips.

3181
02:36:22,120 --> 02:36:25,200
Speaker 2: Trust me, I've lived it. I know how it goes.

3182
02:36:28,959 --> 02:36:32,480
Speaker 2: The Hall of Fame games eight weeks away. I've heard it.

3183
02:36:35,200 --> 02:36:37,039
Speaker 4: I think we should we should plan a show trip

3184
02:36:37,400 --> 02:36:39,879
Speaker 4: to the Hall of Fame game, go to the NFL

3185
02:36:39,959 --> 02:36:41,520
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame and then go to the Rock and

3186
02:36:41,640 --> 02:36:43,600
Speaker 4: Roll Hall of Fame that's right down the road in Cleveland.

3187
02:36:43,640 --> 02:36:46,960
Speaker 4: And then we could go to the Christmas Story House,

3188
02:36:47,040 --> 02:36:49,720
Speaker 4: so well, you know, we're Ralphie and all that. Like

3189
02:36:49,800 --> 02:36:51,400
Speaker 4: they have the replica the Christmas so we have like

3190
02:36:51,400 --> 02:36:54,240
Speaker 4: a whole little Cleveland weekend, little Cleveland weekend for the Vellows.

3191
02:36:54,520 --> 02:36:58,840
Speaker 1: I would count me in. I was going to suggest

3192
02:36:58,879 --> 02:37:06,320
Speaker 1: another trip. So at the end, it's in August. It's

3193
02:37:07,000 --> 02:37:10,279
Speaker 1: I think it's the third week in August in Vegas

3194
02:37:11,600 --> 02:37:18,120
Speaker 1: they do at Circa they do an NFL preview party.

3195
02:37:19,720 --> 02:37:22,080
Speaker 1: So you and I do that season long like we

3196
02:37:22,200 --> 02:37:24,040
Speaker 1: They'll they'll do the or you pick a couple of

3197
02:37:24,080 --> 02:37:27,959
Speaker 1: games against the one and spread or whatever. It's the contests, right,

3198
02:37:28,600 --> 02:37:31,080
Speaker 1: so the Circa contest. So they're doing this whole thing.

3199
02:37:32,000 --> 02:37:34,800
Speaker 1: So in fact, they're I think Baldy and I are

3200
02:37:34,840 --> 02:37:38,520
Speaker 1: going to go out and host like a Saturday afternoon

3201
02:37:38,640 --> 02:37:43,160
Speaker 1: by at Circus swin a whole event, and it's gonna

3202
02:37:43,160 --> 02:37:46,280
Speaker 1: be a week long, like a weekend long kind of

3203
02:37:46,480 --> 02:37:52,280
Speaker 1: fun football preview. People will be doing like you know,

3204
02:37:52,440 --> 02:37:55,039
Speaker 1: fantasy drafts. It's gonna be like a like a great

3205
02:37:55,840 --> 02:37:59,440
Speaker 1: kind of preview of the season. I think we should

3206
02:37:59,440 --> 02:38:00,600
Speaker 1: do our show from there.

3207
02:38:02,360 --> 02:38:05,200
Speaker 4: Hey, we have to do this B and this is

3208
02:38:05,280 --> 02:38:09,080
Speaker 4: particularly important. Uh can I get speedo made that just

3209
02:38:09,120 --> 02:38:11,040
Speaker 4: say the fellas, I'm a butt cheeks and then just

3210
02:38:11,120 --> 02:38:14,520
Speaker 4: walk around the walk around all of the pool area

3211
02:38:14,600 --> 02:38:17,040
Speaker 4: with the speedle going. That just says the fellas. I

3212
02:38:17,920 --> 02:38:20,280
Speaker 4: might send a weird message, but you know, hey, I'm

3213
02:38:20,640 --> 02:38:21,480
Speaker 4: I'm all in to get weird.

3214
02:38:23,560 --> 02:38:24,400
Speaker 2: You got it, brother?

3215
02:38:24,640 --> 02:38:24,680
Speaker 5: You?

3216
02:38:26,280 --> 02:38:29,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? So that's our That would be our summer traveling.

3217
02:38:30,680 --> 02:38:31,440
Speaker 2: How's that sound.

3218
02:38:31,840 --> 02:38:32,400
Speaker 4: I'm in for that.

3219
02:38:32,480 --> 02:38:34,760
Speaker 2: I'm in for that one hundred because I like the

3220
02:38:34,840 --> 02:38:38,080
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. I did too, so that's that's pretty good.

3221
02:38:38,520 --> 02:38:40,360
Speaker 4: No, circa in the pool sounds better than the Hall

3222
02:38:40,400 --> 02:38:44,000
Speaker 4: of Fame in the Canton. There's Vegas pool side. Vegas

3223
02:38:44,040 --> 02:38:47,520
Speaker 4: always beats Canton. There's just no there's no other way

3224
02:38:47,560 --> 02:38:48,440
Speaker 4: that that math works.

3225
02:38:49,120 --> 02:38:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I actually would love I think a plus.

3226
02:38:53,360 --> 02:38:56,560
Speaker 1: It's like the preview football nf oul, Like that's a

3227
02:38:56,640 --> 02:39:00,920
Speaker 1: blest you know, I think I think we'd have a

3228
02:39:00,959 --> 02:39:01,480
Speaker 1: blast with that.

3229
02:39:01,800 --> 02:39:03,439
Speaker 2: Who do you guys like Duke? North Carolina?

3230
02:39:05,800 --> 02:39:06,400
Speaker 5: I like Duke.

3231
02:39:06,560 --> 02:39:08,480
Speaker 4: I think home Court, you know, I feel good about

3232
02:39:08,520 --> 02:39:09,160
Speaker 4: Duke in that one.

3233
02:39:10,480 --> 02:39:13,440
Speaker 3: I like uh North Carolina. I like Baycott on the

3234
02:39:13,520 --> 02:39:16,160
Speaker 3: inside and Davis can can light it up from the outside.

3235
02:39:16,240 --> 02:39:18,800
Speaker 2: So I like, I like you and see you like

3236
02:39:18,879 --> 02:39:23,360
Speaker 2: you to make a run, Yeah I do, how about you? No,

3237
02:39:23,600 --> 02:39:26,760
Speaker 2: I'm taking Duke just no, no, just to make a run.

3238
02:39:26,840 --> 02:39:28,440
Speaker 4: Oh to make a run. Yeah no. I like North

3239
02:39:28,440 --> 02:39:30,160
Speaker 4: Carolina make a run. Yeah, I like yeah.

3240
02:39:30,160 --> 02:39:32,240
Speaker 2: I like North Carolina to go deeper in the tournament

3241
02:39:32,280 --> 02:39:35,360
Speaker 2: than Duke. Put it that way, I like Kentucky too today.

3242
02:39:36,520 --> 02:39:38,800
Speaker 3: Be a tall order, but a huge win for them

3243
02:39:38,840 --> 02:39:40,720
Speaker 3: if they can pick that up and on the on

3244
02:39:40,800 --> 02:39:43,080
Speaker 3: the road against Tennessee likely going to be a one seed.

3245
02:39:43,520 --> 02:39:45,560
Speaker 4: Yeah huge that a scene needs these wins right now

3246
02:39:45,600 --> 02:39:46,320
Speaker 4: to get that one seed.

3247
02:39:46,360 --> 02:39:48,800
Speaker 2: They do, that's true, big game for both.

3248
02:39:49,440 --> 02:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Yeah no, no, that's true. All right, Well, that's gonna

3249
02:39:52,560 --> 02:39:55,440
Speaker 1: do it for us, everybody. Thanks for hanging man. We

3250
02:39:55,560 --> 02:39:59,360
Speaker 1: love you guys, fellas, We're out, see you next week.