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Speaker 1: of the above that'll be coming up. The Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: heard arguments yesterday about the legality of the NCAA's amateurism model,

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Speaker 1: and the justices raised some interesting questions, would be, would

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Speaker 1: you if you paid the players with that rum in

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Speaker 1: college sports? What does the NCAA get as far as

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Speaker 1: they get to pretty much establish the terns for the

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Speaker 1: labor market. Why is that is amateurism and outdated concept altogether?

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Speaker 1: And I like what's going on because those questions need

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Speaker 1: to be brought up. And if you look at what

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Speaker 1: much money is going to be the trickle down to

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Speaker 1: these other sports and keeping these other sports alive, it's

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Speaker 1: really important for them. With what these football players went

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Speaker 1: through this year, they weren't amateurs. They really weren't. The

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Speaker 1: way they were treated or what they were asked to do,

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Speaker 1: they weren't. Even the basketball is going into the bubble.

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Speaker 1: This isn't normal, but we're asking them to be normal

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Speaker 1: or hey, this is just a one off here. I

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Speaker 1: was listening to Clay Travis this morning and Clay brought

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Speaker 1: up something interesting on Fox Sports Radio. Clay said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: imagine if you're a star football player, you give an

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Speaker 1: autograph to somebody. They could sell the autograph. You signing

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things involved in this. Do I

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Speaker 1: think that there are great benefits by being an athlete,

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Speaker 1: and it's not a student athlete. You're an athletic student.

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Speaker 1: You're asked to do more than just hey, show up

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Speaker 1: it's going to go on for a little while. The

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Speaker 1: justices seemed to be asking the right questions. There's no

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Speaker 1: easy answers here. You can ask the questions, no easy

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Speaker 1: answers when it comes to college athletics. And I know

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Speaker 1: that we get into this conversation, we head down the

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Speaker 1: your education paid by getting a free education. You do.

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Speaker 1: But there are certain athletes. Zion Williamson was worth a

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Speaker 1: whole lot more than just his education at Duke. I

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Speaker 1: think we can all agree, Johnny Manzil or Tim Tebow.

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Speaker 1: think that's what some of these athletes are saying, look,

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Speaker 1: I want to own my likeness. Can I take advantage

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Speaker 1: something that's going to continue. The conversation will and maybe

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Speaker 1: The fact that you had all of the college basketball

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Speaker 1: That's where it's tricky here. But I do think viewing

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's ideal. But amateurism, you know, that's

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Speaker 1: Olympic athletes aren't amateurs, but it's under the umbrella of

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Speaker 1: Alabama men's golf is a money pit. That's a cost.

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Speaker 1: And now there's a more cost to pay these guys,

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Speaker 1: revenue producing sports will stay. Yeah, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: That's how all of this works, and that's why you

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Speaker 1: teach stuff and don't tell us. That's very frustrating. But

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Speaker 1: That's the general baseball question of the day. It feels

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Speaker 1: to be a Mike Trout fan, But does he have

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft. As we make way for Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 1: lead draft analyst Mike Renner joining us to talk about

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Speaker 1: his big board here. How often has your big board

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Speaker 1: changed here in the last week or so? Mike, Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's been moving. We just updated at this past Monday.

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Speaker 1: Because the athletic testing, especially for a lot of these

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Speaker 1: guys that opted out, haven't seen in a while. It's

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Speaker 1: still very important. I think the outliers on either end

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Speaker 1: PFF board. Okay, let's start at the top, Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: and then Zack Wilson. Any questions on Trevor Lawrence, Now,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he may not be the best quarterback ever,

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Speaker 1: he may not be a top three quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: But I think Trevor Lawrence the selling point to him,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't really have weaknesses. He's going to be maybe

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Speaker 1: next year top ten to twelve quarterback in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: You just feel very confident about that. With all he's

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Speaker 1: done already and the way his game translates to the NFL, well,

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Speaker 1: he's also gotta have some talent around him here, Mike,

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Speaker 1: I don't care how good you are if you put

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in Jacksonville last year. He ain't Patrick Mahomes, oh,

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent. And the good news is though the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars have all that draft capital, all that that's a

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Speaker 1: cap space right now to make some plays and get

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Speaker 1: some guys around him. And they have some talent there.

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Speaker 1: They have a quality offensive line and guy like Djhark

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Speaker 1: on the outside. I think they'll put those pieces around him.

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Speaker 1: And obviously you have a head coach and Urban Myra

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Speaker 1: played with strengths, all right, the Jets with Zack Wilson,

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Speaker 1: would you advise them to take Zack Wilson one hundred percent?

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Speaker 1: You cannot go into twenty twenty one with Sam Darnald,

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Speaker 1: to be that guy. He very well may, with better

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Speaker 1: pieces around him, be one of the better quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, but as soon as he is, you'd have

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Speaker 1: to pay Sam Darnold like you pay every other quarterback

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Speaker 1: in the nfield. The who grail right now in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: is that quarterback on the rookie deal playing an elite level.

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Speaker 1: That can be Zack Wilson. That can't be Sam Darnold

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Speaker 1: because he's going to have to get paid after this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then you have to franchise him or you have to

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Speaker 1: give him that long extension and any team. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what he's going to be worth. I have some

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Speaker 1: information on what I think the Jets think he's worth,

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Speaker 1: but you know, can you get that from somebody? Then

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Speaker 1: at number three you got the Niners. They paid an

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Speaker 1: awful lot to go up there. Did they need to

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Speaker 1: go pay what they paid to get the guy they wanted?

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Speaker 1: At three? They did? And it's because the desperations, because

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Speaker 1: other teams were going to pay that. You look at

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Speaker 1: teams like the Panthers, the Broncos, even the Eagles in

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Speaker 1: this quarterback market. To get kind of your guy, knowing

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Speaker 1: that those were the top two, that Lawrence and Wilson

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Speaker 1: are the top two, you had to pay a premium.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I do think it's not going to

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Speaker 1: be a mac Jones mac Jones of the world. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to say they're a dime a dozen. But

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Speaker 1: that's a Kirk Cousins, that's a Jimmy Garoppolo. That's not

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Speaker 1: the guy's going above and beyond. I think they paid

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Speaker 1: that premium for the arm talent, the tools that someone

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Speaker 1: like a Trey Lance or a Justin Fields brings to

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Speaker 1: the table because they can run your offense, but then

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Speaker 1: they can also do things outside your offense and open

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Speaker 1: up the entire playbook that, like I said, Jimmy Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: cannot do well. That's why I wondered, and I read

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Speaker 1: your profile on Mac Jones. You didn't have a lot

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Speaker 1: of great things to say. I think you mentioned his

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Speaker 1: arm was middling, like it's we've been told like he's

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Speaker 1: really precise and he's the kind of quarterback that Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan would want with the Niners. Is there an upside

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Speaker 1: to Mac Jones? I think that's the thing is that

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Speaker 1: he fits that offense. What he did at Alabama, it's

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Speaker 1: very similar to what he'll be doing with San Francisco

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Speaker 1: forty Niners in terms of working over the middle of

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Speaker 1: the field, working off play action, working in timing of

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Speaker 1: the offense. He does those things exceptionally well. But again,

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins does those things. Sceptional Derek Carr does those things.

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Speaker 1: They don't go above and beyond because they don't have

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Speaker 1: the arm strength, they don't have the physical tools. The

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Speaker 1: guys who are winning in the NFL that they the

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Speaker 1: guys who were leading the offenses like the Packers, the Bills,

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs this past season have legit arm talent. And

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Speaker 1: before you lump someone like Tom Brady into that, Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady has a much much stronger arm than a mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: Guys who are at that level of arm strength you

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Speaker 1: just have to almost protect. And you even see it

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Speaker 1: on kind of the routes he targets at Alabama. He's

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Speaker 1: not working outside the numbers. He's not working go balls

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Speaker 1: down the football field. He's only really working over the

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Speaker 1: middle of the field. So he's not expanding your offense.

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Speaker 1: He can run it, he can run an NFL offense,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think he's going above and beyond to

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Speaker 1: pay that premium of three first rounders for if somebody

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Speaker 1: takes mac Jones in the first five picks, finish that sentence.

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Speaker 1: They're getting a good quarterback. You can win a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl with them. And like I said, quality quarterback play

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Speaker 1: on a rookie deal is still so valuable because he said,

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Speaker 1: look how much Kirk Cousins is making thirty five million

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Speaker 1: dollars a year. Mac Jones at pick five will be

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Speaker 1: making five million dollars year. You're saving yourself thirty million

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Speaker 1: dollars that you can go pay and fill out the

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Speaker 1: rest of your roster. But I would rather have those

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Speaker 1: four other guys. If I said, Justine Fields or Trey

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Speaker 1: Lance or mac Jones, give me the order. Justin Fields,

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Speaker 1: Trey Lance, Mac Jones, I think you said it there yourself. Fields,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get the smoke around him not

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Speaker 1: being one of the franchise type guys in this draft class.

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Speaker 1: Like the way he played at Ohio State at a

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Speaker 1: high level against Clemson this past year, against Alabama, and yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's some bad games on his tape, but he runs

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Speaker 1: a four four and has a cannon and is very

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Speaker 1: accurate down the football field, and I get the Ohio

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Speaker 1: State quarterback knock, but he is playing a vastly different

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Speaker 1: offense than what Dwayne Haskins did. Dwayne Haskins had over

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Speaker 1: half of his yards after the catch in his time

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Speaker 1: at Ohio State, justin Fields. Seventy percent of his yards

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Speaker 1: came through the year. That was the highest of any

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Speaker 1: quarterback in the country. So playing a different game at

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Speaker 1: the quarterback position than what we've seen from Ohio State

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Speaker 1: qbs in the past. And it is Trey Lance a

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Speaker 1: year waiting to maybe be a starting quarterback. Here, you're

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Speaker 1: taking somebody who, I guess, for the lack of a

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Speaker 1: better term, a project. I think so. I think he

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Speaker 1: is incredibly gifted athlete in terms of probably going around

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Speaker 1: the four fives or that's what he's capable of. Probably

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Speaker 1: the best pure runner at the positions draft class, has

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Speaker 1: the strongest arm of any quarterback in the draft class,

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Speaker 1: and he is a very good decision maker with a football.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he didn't have a single pick back in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 1: but gets the ball where it needs to go. He's

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Speaker 1: just not particularly accurate. Only one year as a starter,

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Speaker 1: coming from the competition level, He's coming from all those things.

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Speaker 1: I would not want to throw him to the Wolves

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Speaker 1: right away. But he is the youngest of this bunch.

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Speaker 1: He's not even twenty one years old yet what he

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Speaker 1: could be when he's you know, Matt Jones's age, Joe

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Speaker 1: Burrow's age coming out, we don't even know yet. That's

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Speaker 1: kind of what you're buying into with all the physical

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Speaker 1: tools he brings to the table, very reminiscent of like

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Speaker 1: a Josh Allen coming out of Wyoming. He's my runner.

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Speaker 1: The Pro Football Focus lead draft analyst, I was watching

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Speaker 1: Kyle pitch Pro Day yesterday, and he makes it look

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Speaker 1: pretty easy. I know it's he's he's labeled a tight end,

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Speaker 1: but it's kind of like a big wide receiver who's

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Speaker 1: lining up at tight end. Here if you look at

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Speaker 1: Davante Smith. I even had a scout yesterday say, Jalen

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Speaker 1: Waddle in his opinion, is better than Davonte Smith. And

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Speaker 1: he's the one who told me about Jamar Chase said

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Speaker 1: he'll be a better He's the better wide receiver than

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Speaker 1: Davonte Smith. So if you put them all together there, Pitts,

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase, Davonte Smith, Jalen Waddle rank those well one.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can go wrong. All those guys

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Speaker 1: are stud NFL prospects. But on the PFF board it

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Speaker 1: goes Pitts, Chase Waddle and then Smith at the fourth.

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Speaker 1: And it's because of the physical tools and what it

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Speaker 1: takes to translate to the next level, and we're usually

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Speaker 1: low on tight ends. There's not a lot of difference

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Speaker 1: makers at the tight end position. In the NFL. You

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Speaker 1: actually win one on one against NFL cornerbacks, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's the biggest things because if you have a

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Speaker 1: guy like a Jason Witten or a Zach Er, it's

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Speaker 1: all you need to do is put a big cornerback

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Speaker 1: on them and they can't separate. That's not the case

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Speaker 1: with Kyle Pitts. He was beating SEC cornerbacks like jac Horne,

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Speaker 1: and so if you just call them a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: receiver in this But you can't match up with him

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Speaker 1: him as tight end because he can actually block. Now

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Speaker 1: and another guy, he's only twenty years old, so he's

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Speaker 1: an incredible talent obviously going to go high. But then

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Speaker 1: Chase is the guy who's kind of getting forgotten about

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Speaker 1: because he opted out this past year. But as Pro

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Speaker 1: Day runs in the four three's Monster Vertical Monster broads

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Speaker 1: up an explosive guy. What he did again at nineteen

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Speaker 1: years old in the SEC just different and the wattle

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Speaker 1: thing Wattle. Actually, when they were both healthy on the

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Speaker 1: football field this past year, he had more yards than

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Speaker 1: Davante Smith, just could not stay healthy. Is the more

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Speaker 1: dynamic athlete. And again no knock on Smith, but one

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy pounders that's going to show up more

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Speaker 1: at the NFL level than it did in college. Guys

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Speaker 1: are going to get more physical. Your average cornerback in

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Speaker 1: the NFL's around two hundred pounds thirty pounds heavier than

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Speaker 1: DeVante Smith. That's just going to be more of an issue.

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Speaker 1: Give me the stat or stats that we need to

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Speaker 1: be aware of that makeup like a great wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: Because mclovin says, what receptions aren't important? Right? Yes, so

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Speaker 1: they're like hits in baseball. Okay, So give us what

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Speaker 1: to look for. How do we you know, equate value

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Speaker 1: at those positions. I think a big stat to look

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Speaker 1: forward wide receivers is age adjusted production and production being

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Speaker 1: like yards per out, how much you're actually producing given

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Speaker 1: the opportunities you're given. And so that's in STA like

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Speaker 1: you just made something up didn't you yards per rout

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Speaker 1: being like how often you're on the football field and

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Speaker 1: how many yards you gained per the opportunities you were given.

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Speaker 1: Because if you're an offense like LSU twenty nineteen, were

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Speaker 1: you having seven hundred drop backs and you have a

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Speaker 1: ton of opportunities, your yards perout is going to be.

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Speaker 1: Your total yards is going to be a lot different

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Speaker 1: from then a guy who runs maybe at Navy, who's

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Speaker 1: not getting in a lot opportunities. Now that's a vastly

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Speaker 1: that's a egregious example. But and then the age adjustment

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Speaker 1: is big because again, you've developed so much physically over

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Speaker 1: the course of your career in college. You want the

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Speaker 1: guys who can do it when they're not the physical freaks,

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Speaker 1: the guys who are producing as freshman sophomores when they

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Speaker 1: don't have that inbuilt physical advantage to speak to their

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Speaker 1: innate talent level. The guys who turns on late in

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Speaker 1: their career when they are finally the guy who's you know,

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Speaker 1: the man amongst boys so speak. Those are the guys

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Speaker 1: you worry about because you won't be the man amongst

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Speaker 1: boys once you are in the NFL. Okay, give me

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Speaker 1: the best receiver in football right now, I will go

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Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill as the best receiver in football, the

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Speaker 1: guy I would want more than anyone else. That's the

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Speaker 1: way he changes the game. And the best tight end

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Speaker 1: in football, best side end of football is George Kittle

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Speaker 1: all around when healthy because of his blocking plus his

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Speaker 1: receiving ability. Who's the worst quarterback in football? The worst

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Speaker 1: quarterback in football is Taysom Hill. Count as a quarterback

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Speaker 1: at this point, I guess mister r Bisky got a job. Still,

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Speaker 1: we'll go away. We're not sold on Taysom Hill is

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Speaker 1: a quarterback. I am not sold As much as Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton wants to sell him to me, I'm not buying

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Speaker 1: what he's selling at this point. He just you watch

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Speaker 1: him try to throw like passing concepts that aren't play

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Speaker 1: action deep shots or that like stuff that have to

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Speaker 1: actually go through progressions and get the ball where he

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Speaker 1: needs to go accurately. And it's pretty brutal to watch.

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Speaker 1: Paulie wants to defend Mitchell Trubisky, can't you You know,

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Speaker 1: he's twenty nine and twenty one is a starter. Not

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Speaker 1: a lot of people with that in this first four year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think victories are overrated too, right is that? I

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Speaker 1: think I would agree with you? Yeah, victories are over eight,

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Speaker 1: y asked mclubbing. Yeah, Taysom hill one basically every game

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Speaker 1: he started, too, what's up there? We'll let you go, Mike.

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Speaker 1: You don't have to do you don't engage. It's okay,

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Speaker 1: I kicked. This is what ideal with every single day. Uh,

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Speaker 1: great to have you on. We will. We'll have you

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Speaker 1: on before the draft if that's okay, Mike. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time as always. For sure, Dan, thanks for having

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Speaker 1: that's Mike Runner. Pro Football Focus lead draft analysts. Y

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Speaker 1: asked mclub he can't keep up analytics with the Dan Netts.

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Speaker 1: We were schooling him right there, Paul, he's trubisky. Stat Wait,

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Speaker 1: he brought up an age something age adjusted? He like?

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Speaker 1: He took the question about seven levels pass where where

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Speaker 1: we were a hill? Is that? Like? Can I use

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Speaker 1: that in my job? Yards per round is the big there? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I always talk about, Lark, it's

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Speaker 1: not even yards. No. Once again, it's just like the

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Speaker 1: a break. Play of the day's up next. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: opening day picks? Here? How about we do a snake

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Speaker 1: draft and we'll make it two rounds and you pick

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Speaker 1: who you think is going to win the World Series.

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Speaker 1: We'll start, like we normally do, with the least knowledgeable guy.

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Speaker 1: We start with Todd. Wow, the Pennant and the parade

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Speaker 1: are in the Bronx the Okay, Todd's got the Yankees. Mclovin. Oh,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna make me look bad by not going

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Speaker 1: Phillies first. But I am taking my San Diego Padres. Okay, uh, Seaton,

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Speaker 1: I might as well take your Los Angeles Dodgers. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the uh the odds here. Might as

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Speaker 1: well go ahead and go with them. Yeah, with the

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Speaker 1: best team in baseball, guys, go with chocolate all the time.

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Speaker 1: I'm disappointed, though, I really wanted to take the Padres.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, we all wanted to take the Padres. That's

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Speaker 1: why I had to jump on it. Yeah, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at the draft Kings odds and enhanced the Dodgers as

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Speaker 1: the favorites here plus three fifty, followed by the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: and then the Padres uh Pauli Chicago native, longtime South

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Speaker 1: side of it and always been a fan the Chicago

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Speaker 1: White Sox. Okay, and then I'm at the tail end here.

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Speaker 1: I'll get too, and then we'll send it back your way.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with your Atlanta Braves and I mentioned

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Speaker 1: them earlier. The Minnesota Twins. Yes, they're huggable. Wait did

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Speaker 1: you say get to the World Series are to lose

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Speaker 1: in the first round of the Does that happen every

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Speaker 1: year since the beginning of time? Yes, it does. I

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Speaker 1: think I go back to Tony Aliva and Harmon Killer Brew.

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Speaker 1: All right, Paulie, you're next, just because they're always relevance

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Speaker 1: and they're always close. The Saint Louis Cardinal Okay, I

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Speaker 1: don't know how good they are, but it always feels

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Speaker 1: like the Cardinals are good. Seaton O'Connor, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: take the New York City Mets, the Metropolitans. Okay, Metropolitans,

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Speaker 1: you're buying into that. Francisco Lindor sign. Yeah, enjoy that.

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Speaker 1: Uh McLevin. I want to get I really want to

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Speaker 1: hone in here and be specific. Bryce Harper hits the

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Speaker 1: game winning home run in Game six to give the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Phillies the World Series victory. Okay, and we close

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Speaker 1: up shop with Todd Fritz the you raise get back

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Speaker 1: and this time they bring it home. Didn't go with

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Speaker 1: your Astros time? Okay. They found them out about there

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Speaker 1: with the whole garbage, the whole cheating thing. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: figured them out. They're Gony're gonna slide a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You don't. You don't like the Astros as much feeling now, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: our poll question mc lovin. We do not we sell

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Speaker 1: have a decide on which direction we want to go.

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Speaker 1: I had a general question is not a pole. But

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Speaker 1: we were discussing if you are Francisco Lindoor and you've

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Speaker 1: got a ten year, three hundred and forty million dollar contract,

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Speaker 1: what would be your big luxury buy. If we were

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Speaker 1: going to put some options on the poll, what kind

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Speaker 1: of thing do you do with that kind of money.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what Francisco Lindoor does with his money,

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Speaker 1: but it was, well, what would you do if you

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Speaker 1: hit that? Then you and buy an island? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: private island like one of the tech millionaires. No, I'm done.

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Speaker 1: Would your life even change? I know, I don't think

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Speaker 1: I would want to do anything that was out of

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Speaker 1: the ordinary. Yes, time, if you buy an island, the

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Speaker 1: course of the maintenance and the grass cutting and the

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Speaker 1: you know, just the whole all the gardening that there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of expenses there, say, at any property, but

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Speaker 1: about an entire island, that's really you gotta get a

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Speaker 1: lot of people to think that if I go, then

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Speaker 1: I kind of take that island. They gotta cut the

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Speaker 1: grass because it may have enough for the island. And

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Speaker 1: even then it starts to mount up the bills. It's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know there's seventy six thousand dollars. This is

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Speaker 1: why I didn't want to do this. Mclovin, Well, you

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Speaker 1: sure where Paul, he said, I saw this. He's like, wow,

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Speaker 1: now it's not a good time to buy. So even

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Speaker 1: with three forty million, I'm just gonna rent for a year.

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Speaker 1: And he started like listing mortgage rates. It was crazy.

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Speaker 1: Plus you live half of that in Texas. Yeah, of course, yeah,

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Speaker 1: something like that. Where does someone live if they if

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Speaker 1: you play for the Yankees or the Mets, where do

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Speaker 1: you live. Do you live close to the ballpark or

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Speaker 1: do you live like near the airport because you're always

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Speaker 1: at the airport? You live? Well, they're guys live in Jersey.

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Speaker 1: Guys live just outside the city. Long Island would be

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Speaker 1: Long Island City. Yeah, there are a few places. I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious why. I wonder if anyone lives near the

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Speaker 1: ballpark they play in, so it's very convenient. I know

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Speaker 1: there's some Cubs players who live within ten twelve blocks

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Speaker 1: of Wrigley and they could take a quick car over there.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot though, Yeah, but there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of places around there. Um, you can see San Francisco

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Speaker 1: maybe being a place, you know, you play the Giants.

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Speaker 1: You could live downtown and take the bart. I thought, uh,

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Speaker 1: who was it, u, Tim lindscum that I thought he

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Speaker 1: lived right down by the ballpark in San Francisco. Yes, mcclub, didn't.

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Speaker 1: Jeter and Arad live on the east side right to

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Speaker 1: get on the FDR up there. Yeah, the players would

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Speaker 1: be on the east side, so it's easier to get

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Speaker 1: on the FDR to get to Yanko take the subway. Actually,

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Speaker 1: thank you, Toddy. Yes, mclaugh I have a good poll

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Speaker 1: option to troll Patriots fans if you want it. Next hour.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. Robert Craft had some interesting things to say.

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Speaker 1: Was he holding Bill Belichick accountable there for some things?

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Speaker 1: Free agency draft picks? Also information I learned about Sam

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Speaker 1: Arnold's future and what the Niners are thinking actually debating

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Speaker 1: about what the third pick overall that's coming up in

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Speaker 1: ten minutes here on The Dan Patrick Show,