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Speaker 1: what's up?

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Speaker 2: Hi again?

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Speaker 1: Everybody? Welcome to the Official Colts Podcast. Back again on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday. Hope your summer's going well. Spend a week

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Speaker 1: down in Florida. Larre Overton is here. I met Taylor

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Speaker 1: JJ stangobitzays, well, Jje was hot down in Florida. Coming

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Speaker 3: So with the heat coming up here. I know it's

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Speaker 2: And Kings Island and Kings Island.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these kids like you know how Dippin' Dots is

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Speaker 3: the ice cream of the future. They branded themselves as that.

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Speaker 2: For thirty years ago. It was the ice cream.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure because of my kids, Dippin' Dots will

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Speaker 1: Sustained.

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Speaker 3: Dippin' Dots are great when it's super hot up because

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Speaker 3: down to the bottom. I am a pro Dippin' Dots guy. Now, nice,

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Speaker 3: I would have to agree with that. Cotton Candy flavor.

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Speaker 3: anywhere that you could sell ice cream.

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Speaker 1: Next to the ConA Ice, right, that's where ConA Ice is.

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Speaker 2: See to me, no ice cream will ever taste as

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Speaker 1: Guys. Remember the malts, Remember chocolate malts.

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Speaker 1: coming up on today's podcast, we're talking about big time

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's coming out tonight. The training camp schedule

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Speaker 1: cults dot com slash Camp here in just a little

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Speaker 3: I think it's one of those things where the competition

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Speaker 3: If the Colts can get a consistently effective pass rush,

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Speaker 1: What do you make of this defense? There's Pro Bowl players,

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Speaker 4: I think our defense is going to be well. Our

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Speaker 1: You still think about those long kickoff returns.

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Speaker 1: Right, thanks a lot for your time, You appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Dallas Flowers right there, Yeah, he had that huge kickoff

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Speaker 1: It's not like he was being exploited. To your point,

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Speaker 1: And that's that strong safety. Nick Cross is currently the

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Speaker 1: He originally made the fifty three man roster. But point

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Speaker 1: Go back to you can't play it well.

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Speaker 2: It's just remembering the fact that it's a guy who

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Speaker 3: The other thing here that I think Julian gets is

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Speaker 1: And there's always a need for a guy like that

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Speaker 1: on your football team.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and I think Julian gets that, Hey, if I

439
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Speaker 3: go out and have a good season at strong safety,

440
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Speaker 3: there are gonna be a lot of teams that are

441
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Speaker 3: gonna be interested in me. Because when you think about

442
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Speaker 3: free agency, I think we always look at it of like, guy,

443
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Speaker 3: it's free agency, and oh he's a good player, They're

444
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Speaker 3: going to be twenty teams interested in him. But in reality,

445
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Speaker 3: it's usually a lot more specific. It's usually there are

446
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Speaker 3: only three or four teams that are really interested. You

447
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Speaker 3: max in free agency. But if you go into it

448
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Speaker 3: and a team says, we need a nickel, we like

449
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Speaker 3: what Julian did last year at nickel, or we need

450
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Speaker 3: a free safety we like his tape when he was

451
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Speaker 3: playing free safety with the Colts, or we need a

452
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Speaker 3: strong safety, or we need a safety can be interchangeable

453
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Speaker 3: and do both. That's really valuable, especially in a lot

454
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Speaker 3: of the two high vic Fangio defenses that are out there.

455
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Speaker 3: That could open up Julian Blackmen to have five, six,

456
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Speaker 3: seven teams interested in him, including the Colts, and that

457
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Speaker 3: will help him make more money wherever.

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Speaker 2: You put Julian. He's just got to stay healthy this year.

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Speaker 2: That's the biggest thing right now. And last year he

460
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Speaker 2: was incredibly you know, available for the most part, but

461
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Speaker 2: obviously you know, kind of had that later coming along

462
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Speaker 2: in terms of his freshman his freshman season, his rookie season.

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Speaker 2: I just glanced up they got the Manning Passing Academy

464
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Speaker 2: on NFL Network and then I was flashing back to

465
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Speaker 2: to like the College of Quarterbacks out there. But his

466
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Speaker 2: rookie season and then of course tour his Achilles and

467
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Speaker 2: all of those things. So the biggest thing for him

468
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Speaker 2: is certainly going to be not only proving a command

469
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Speaker 2: of that position, but also purely just being available and

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Speaker 2: on the field for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think Blackman to your point, JJ,

472
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Speaker 1: he's just a guy you have to have on your

473
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Speaker 1: team because of his athleticism, his tracking ability you know

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Speaker 1: for the ball, his leadership through playmaking ability, and just

475
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Speaker 1: the communication. I don't think there is a more communicative

476
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Speaker 1: guy on defense. Just mean, when you when you're out

477
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Speaker 1: there a practice, the only voice you hear among all

478
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Speaker 1: the other ones, seemingly is Julian Blackman, either talking trash

479
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Speaker 1: or telling guy where to go, how to line up there.

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Speaker 2: If there's one voice that can carry alongside Shack Leonards,

481
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Speaker 2: it's Julian Blackman. I mean, we're used to like Shack

482
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Speaker 2: being incredibly vocal, and Julian is right on par with that.

483
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Speaker 1: So with Thomas's emergence, I think that just gives you

484
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Speaker 1: the luxury of being able to move Blackman into a

485
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Speaker 1: role that he's comfortable with at strong safety. He's again

486
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Speaker 1: a NonStop communicator, loves to play physical. He's a really

487
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Speaker 1: good tackler. We've talked about that in the past. Underrated

488
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Speaker 1: tack Yeah, really comfortable playing in the box. You know.

489
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Speaker 1: I think he's I think this is a fish in

490
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Speaker 1: water in terms of this this switch for black men

491
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Speaker 1: going from free to strong safety, and I think there's

492
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Speaker 1: to your point again, Larah piggybacking off of that, I'm

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Speaker 1: rooting big time for Julian Blackman because personally he's just

494
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Speaker 1: a great guy and he's been through a lot. Right

495
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Speaker 1: he toward the ACL in college and then the Achilles

496
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Speaker 1: injury a couple of years ago.

497
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Speaker 2: So football is more fun when you have Julian Blackman

498
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Speaker 2: on the fieldure practice. He was in your locker room,

499
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Speaker 2: like no doubt, Like, this guy is just NonStop energy

500
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Speaker 2: and he seems like too that like he has gelled

501
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Speaker 2: incredibly well with Ron Milis and Mike Mitchell and that

502
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Speaker 2: whole group, and how he has been able to thrive

503
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Speaker 2: and pick up and immerse himself in Gus's scheme. Well.

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Speaker 3: Additionally, if you want to know what may tastes talking

505
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Speaker 3: about with how good of a dude Julian Blackman is,

506
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Speaker 3: go listen to the podcast May Tell You.

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Speaker 1: Did with that. He was fantastic.

508
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Speaker 3: It was a really good interview, so easy to talk

509
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Speaker 3: to too. My favorite thing in that wash he sings

510
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,160
Speaker 3: so much to his daughter that his daughter's like, daddy, stop,

511
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Speaker 3: that's great. Yeah, I love I love having like a

512
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Speaker 3: three year old and already embarrassing them. It's great. Yeah,

513
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Speaker 3: it's great. He hits that too.

514
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Speaker 1: The the last training camp storyline outside of Quarterback is

515
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Speaker 1: just the schedule, and as we said, that's coming out

516
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Speaker 1: later on tonight, So check that out later this week.

517
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Speaker 1: Colts dot com slash Camp for the full dates on

518
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Speaker 1: when the Cults are going to be practicing and the

519
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Speaker 1: headliner of those practices are going to be. We do

520
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Speaker 1: know the Cults are going to host the Bears for

521
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Speaker 1: a couple of joint practices later in all, I guess

522
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Speaker 1: they're also going to fly to Philadelphia and have a

523
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Speaker 1: joint practice with the Eagles. We don't know for sure

524
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Speaker 1: on the date on that just yet. Maybe by the

525
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Speaker 1: end of the day we will. But those sessions are

526
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Speaker 1: probably going to give fans more of a glimpse of

527
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Speaker 1: starter on starter action schemes and x's and o's that

528
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Speaker 1: are going to be used in the regular season as

529
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Speaker 1: compared to those preseason games that are televised for the

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Speaker 1: entire world to see. So with that, the question is

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Speaker 1: JJ and Lair, do you think the Colts will scale

532
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Speaker 1: back playing time for the starters in those final two

533
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Speaker 1: preseason games against the Bears and the Eagles because of

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Speaker 1: those joint practices against Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm hijacking really quickly. We have this is I

536
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Speaker 2: can't believe we've gone this long. We've buried the lead

537
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Speaker 2: of this entire podcast. Oh, but we have an additional

538
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Speaker 2: pog caster, a paw D caster, because Millie Stankovitz is

539
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Speaker 2: a guest star on this podcast. She had he said

540
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Speaker 2: a word well, I know, but she's providing you know,

541
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Speaker 2: emotional and encouragement to one jj s.

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Speaker 3: It's bring your dog to workday. So Milli is here.

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Speaker 3: Millie has made an appearance on the podcast before, by

544
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Speaker 3: the way, when we were doing those at home COVID podcasts.

545
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Speaker 3: She barked on one we gotta comment. We got to

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Speaker 3: comment on Apple podcast review, a five star review that

547
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Speaker 3: said hoping for more and million the dog on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: So here it is.

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Speaker 3: You can't hear her because she's being quiet right now.

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Speaker 1: But well, does Milly think that Anthony Richardson's gonna play

551
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Speaker 1: in those final two preseason games? Melly your thoughts.

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Speaker 3: She's wagging her tail, so I think that's yes. By

553
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Speaker 3: the way, just real quick, because we have buried the lead.

554
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Speaker 3: Not only is Milli here, but tugboat Tucker is here.

555
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Speaker 3: Tugboat Tucker weighs how many pounds?

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Speaker 2: About one hundred and forty ish, Yeah, so.

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Speaker 3: Milli weighs about one hundred, not one hundred, oh man,

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Speaker 3: Milli weighs about twelve twelve pounds. Tug boat is more

559
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Speaker 3: than ten times the size of Millie and Millie. Milly

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Speaker 3: just looked at tugboat and was like, I don't know

561
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Speaker 3: what to do with you. I know you're a dog. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: are we the same speech?

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Speaker 1: He's pretty great tug ball walk in here. I thought

564
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Speaker 1: he won the Kentucky Derby about a month ago.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I wish I'd be a lot wealthier had he

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Speaker 2: that great settle him up. Let's go all right now

567
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Speaker 2: to the question if now I'm going back to just

568
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Speaker 2: our only real I shouldn't theyah only, but thinking about

569
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Speaker 2: the past few years and how teams have operated with

570
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Speaker 2: joint practices in preseason games, and then reflecting especially to

571
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Speaker 2: last year, which was the first opportunity to have the

572
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Speaker 2: modified preseason schedule of just the three games versus the four.

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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of looking specifically at last year as

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Speaker 2: our best frame of reference. You got so much out

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Speaker 2: of those two days of joint practices where it's all

576
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Speaker 2: ones on ones, that you didn't have as much need

577
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Speaker 2: to see those guys face off in the preseason game.

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Speaker 2: There was a bit of a gentleman's agreement among the

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Speaker 2: head coaches of all right, how much of your you know,

580
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Speaker 2: what are you playing any your starters are you? How

581
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Speaker 2: long are you going to play the twos? How much

582
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Speaker 2: do you want to see of your threes. I think

583
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Speaker 2: because the joint practices are so beneficial and you get

584
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Speaker 2: so much quality work out of that, that you will

585
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Speaker 2: not see a ton of opportunity in preseason games two

586
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Speaker 2: and three for significant time from the starters, if history

587
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Speaker 2: should be any indication. And the one thing I'll say

588
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Speaker 2: with that, we don't know what Shane Steichen's philosophy is

589
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 2: on that, as we're talking about a brand new coaching staff,

590
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Speaker 2: so maybe it is different, But I do kind of

591
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Speaker 2: think that if you're gauging those against one another, I

592
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Speaker 2: think the greatest benefit does come from your two joint

593
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Speaker 2: practices against the Chicago Bears, and then you're going to

594
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Speaker 2: get anything you need to clarify or any you know,

595
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Speaker 2: greater assessment is going to come from the game.

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Speaker 1: The devil's advocate of that, though, is that last year

597
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Speaker 1: the Colts didn't have a rookie quarterback that was coming

598
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Speaker 1: off only thirteen games.

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Speaker 3: Well, the question to me here there are two separate

600
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Speaker 3: questions of you know, I think when we talk about

601
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Speaker 3: the start, you're talking about your core guys, DeForest Buckner,

602
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Speaker 3: Quinton Nelson, Jonathan Taylor, Zaire Franklin. You know that group

603
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Speaker 3: of guys.

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Speaker 2: Michael Pittman, Michael.

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Speaker 3: Pippy, Yeah, you know there's as it's a much bigger

606
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Speaker 3: group than that, But I don't think you're gonna see

607
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Speaker 3: a lot of those guys. The question about Anthony Richardson,

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Speaker 3: I think is different because for a quarterback, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: see coverages in practice from what Maddy Eberflus and Allan

610
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Speaker 3: Williams are doing in Chicago with their four to three

611
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Speaker 3: to then what Shaun desiys doing in Philadelphia with the

612
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Speaker 3: three four vic Fangio scheme. You can be two different

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Speaker 3: kinds of coverages he's gonna see, and the the coverages

614
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Speaker 3: that they deploy in those joint practices are not gonna

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Speaker 3: be what they deploy in the game because you don't.

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Speaker 2: Want you show nothing in the game. It is the

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Speaker 2: absolute most watered down version of your playbook that you

618
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Speaker 2: can get in those situations.

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Speaker 4: Yet.

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Speaker 3: But the benefit for Anthony Richardson in those games will

621
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Speaker 3: be legitimately feeling the pass rush and because.

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Speaker 1: Just going out there too and having the helmet on

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Speaker 1: and operations you know, yes, operationally logistical relay the play

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Speaker 1: to the huddle, go to the line.

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Speaker 2: Stream Like I'm also you weigh with that though, the

626
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Speaker 2: risk of injury too. I mean, you that's the other

627
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Speaker 2: part of it too. I mean, how much how do

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Speaker 2: you gauge that in that if you've got if you

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Speaker 2: have a guy playing in the second quarter of the

630
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Speaker 2: second preseason game and he gets wrapped up on a

631
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Speaker 2: pass rush and twists an ankle, and I mean you

632
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Speaker 2: also have to think long term. You have got to

633
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Speaker 2: think long term about Anthony Richardson and waging the you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of cost benefit of it all. Right there, So class,

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Speaker 2: now what I'm gonna just drop some knowledge on exactly

636
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Speaker 2: SAT next. I don't know JJ drops dvo A on here,

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Speaker 2: So I'll just.

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Speaker 3: Come and it's.

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Speaker 1: I't what I do think it's a healthy debate, though,

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Speaker 1: debate very much. So I don't think anybody's wrong. I

641
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Speaker 1: mean we've also heard this entire time all off season

642
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Speaker 1: that it's reps. It's reps, it's reps, it's time on task,

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Speaker 1: whether that's practice or joint practice or preseason. None of

644
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Speaker 1: it is bad in the sense that Anthony Richardson is

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Speaker 1: one of the most inexperienced college quarterbacks to go in

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Speaker 1: the time.

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Speaker 2: Here's what I'm going to say. I don't think that

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Speaker 2: there is a set plan right now, and that's not

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Speaker 2: necessarily coming from anything that I've heard or any type

650
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Speaker 2: of insider knowledge. I just think that you were going

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Speaker 2: to have to go into camp with such a clean

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Speaker 2: slate that you were going to be evaluating and constantly

653
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Speaker 2: evaluating what the plan is for both Anthony Richardson and

654
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Speaker 2: Gardner Minshew going in that situation. I mean, depending on

655
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: how good he looks, where you identify his weaknesses to be,

656
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: how much growth he shows from the time he left

657
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: this building in middle of June to the time he

658
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 2: shows up in Grand Park in late July.

659
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Speaker 3: So twenty twenty two, Jalen Hurts threw six passes in

660
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Speaker 3: the preseason that they all came in the first preseason

661
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 3: game of the year. In twenty twenty one, he played

662
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 3: in the first preseason game. And we are totally doing

663
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 3: this on the fly, so I'm just ripping through NFLGSIS

664
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Speaker 3: finding Eagles stats. Jalen Hurts did not play in the

665
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: second preseason game in twenty twenty one for the Eagles,

666
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: and in two the third preseason game, he also did

667
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 3: not play. And that was Jalen Hurts in twenty twenty one,

668
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: when he had started four games in the NFL and

669
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 3: was going to be the Eagles starting quarterback that year. Yeah, so,

670
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 3: but that was Nick Sirianni's decision. That wasn't Shane Steichen's decision.

671
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: I'm sure Nick, I'm sure Shane carried a lot of

672
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: weight though.

673
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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I mean it's not you know, it's

674
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: not a unilateral thing. You have those discussions, but that

675
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: is just maybe a starting point here of even Jalen

676
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: Hurts who heated experience that. You know, it's not the same,

677
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: it's definitely not apples to apples, but it's in the

678
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: same ballpark.

679
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna be all hashed out here.

680
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 2: In about the ballpark serve.

681
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: As ballparks. There's lots of dipper dots set on the

682
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: concourse area up there, all right, that's huge level. Yeah,

683
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: let's a So certainly that is a huge storyline going

684
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: into training camp, that with the playing time and certainly

685
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: what's going on with Julian Blackman and the cornerback depth.

686
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: Those are some non quarterback well, I guess we did

687
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: talk about Anthony Richardson, So we had quarterback, non quarterback

688
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: caoid storylines going into camp. All right, let's close out

689
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: the show here. Do you see it? That's the name

690
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 1: of this segment here as we talk about the Colts

691
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: and the rest of the NFL here in the summertime,

692
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: it's sort of the doldrums. It's the quietest part, if

693
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: you will, of the NFL calendar June into July. But

694
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: we often debate if things are going to happen heading

695
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: into the upcoming season. So let's break out some twenty

696
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: twenty three predictions on do you see it? Lera. The

697
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: first do you see it? Is, let's go back to

698
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson. He's gonna start at least fifteen games next season,

699
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: so start the majority of the season, and he's gonna

700
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: throw for three thousand yards in his rookie season. Do

701
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: you see that?

702
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: I don't know that I do, And that mainly comes

703
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: from the fact that I think you're gonna see a

704
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 2: lot of the run game, and I don't know if

705
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: you're going to see that much past the fifteen games

706
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 2: I can get on board with. I'm just curious if

707
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna see a little bit more of a run

708
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 2: pass balance. That's just I don't know. That's that's kind

709
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 2: of where I'm in on that.

710
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 3: There have only been twenty four rookie quarterbacks to throw

711
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: for over three thousand yards in NFL history, But Daniel

712
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 3: Jones was one of them who you know, came in

713
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 3: and is a different kind of offense, but he kind of

714
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 3: came in as a raw passer, the decent runner. The

715
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: list of this guy, it's a wild list. You got

716
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: Brandon Weedon on here, but also wow, Dak Prescott Baker.

717
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: May I mean, like, I just do you not feel

718
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: like you're gonna have your utilized a lot of the

719
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: run games and you're also gonna have like quite a

720
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: bit of like some designed runs, and then he's gonna

721
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 2: make plays with his legs too.

722
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: You know, I think you're probably gonna see more along

723
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: the lines of twenty five five hundred yards, But I

724
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 3: think more interestingly as how many rushing yards does he get?

725
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: Does he get over seven hundred? That's a pretty high

726
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: number for a quarterback. But I absolutely think, you know,

727
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: you can lean into that. The question then becomes, though,

728
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: if the cult are playing ketch up in.

729
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: These games, you're gonna be forced to pass.

730
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 3: You're gonna be forced to throw it, liked, and that's

731
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: kind of where Daniel Jones was in twenty nineteen where

732
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 3: the Giants were not very good. They're playing ketchup alot.

733
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: Brandon Whedon was also like, what like a twenty nine

734
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: year old rookie, Like, yeah, I mean, and that was

735
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 2: before the coach.

736
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 3: That's just that's just like a hair remember that guy,

737
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Speaker 3: Brandon Whedon.

738
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Speaker 2: Sorry, I just have just stuck on that. I love

739
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: that you ripped that out of there. Though. That's a

740
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,720
Speaker 2: great frame of That's a great frame of my friends.

741
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Speaker 1: Though.

742
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: This is how this is how my brain works. By

743
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 3: the way, I have a list that has Andrew Luck justin,

744
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: Herbert cam Newton, Peyton Manning, Kyler Murray on it. And

745
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 3: then the first name I go to is Brandon's Remember

746
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 3: that guy Oklahoma State?

747
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, played baseball. That's a baseball player.

748
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 2: I do.

749
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: I'm more optimistic, though, I do.

750
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: I'm not pessimistic. I'm not that It's not that I'm

751
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 2: saying he won't start that minigames, I won't have success

752
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 2: as a quarterback. I'm just that's my thing is just

753
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: the passing yard.

754
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: Sure, So I think if you look at the last

755
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks under Shane Styke and Order the quarterbacks that

756
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: Shane Styke and has worked with Jalen Hurd and certainly Herbert.

757
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: I mean in hers his first full year as a starter.

758
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: JJ referenced that twenty one season, fifteen games, sixty one

759
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: percent completion percentage over thirty one hundred yards. If you

760
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: go back to Herbert in year number one, remember Herbert

761
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to be the guy that was Tyrod Taylor,

762
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: so he.

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Speaker 2: Stepped up wild situation.

764
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it seems like forever ago too unrelung

765
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Speaker 1: fifteen starts, forty three hundred yards his first year, so

766
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Speaker 1: I think it can be done under shade.

767
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 2: I had a hair on that man.

768
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Speaker 1: Yes, he does have something flowing locks.

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Speaker 3: So the question I think, I'm I'm more interested in

770
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Speaker 3: the rushing yards.

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Speaker 2: I thought you were a sier more interested in his hair,

772
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 2: spright hair.

773
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: How many quarterbacks just off, do you guys think have

774
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 3: rushed for over six hundred yards in their rookie seasons?

775
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 3: How many in NFL history?

776
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 2: Five?

777
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'll take the under.

778
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: Four ooh, okay, Robert Griffin eight hundred and fifteen, Cam

779
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 3: Newton seven hundred and six, Lamar Jackson six hundred ninety five,

780
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,359
Speaker 3: and by the way, seven starts. Also speaking of Josh Allen,

781
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 3: speaking of Robert Griffin, the third guy, great track guy.

782
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: I spend some time with him in Austin, Texas. He

783
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 3: has agreed to come on the podcast.

784
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have him on the pod go in just

785
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: a few weeks. We were going to get it scheduled.

786
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 2: But a little teaser for you. He has a lot

787
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 2: of thoughts on Shane Steichen and Anthony Richardson and Gardner Minshew,

788
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: so he will bring it all.

789
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Speaker 1: Is a great git.

790
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, given what we we I mean, great get regardless.

791
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: But when we're talking Anthony Richardson, getting Robert Griffin the

792
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: third on here, that's a great get.

793
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: Job lera, oh thank you, you know everyone, while I

795
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: pull my way back out here.

796
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: But so four guy, only four guys of rush for

797
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: over six hundred yards. I think if Richardson starts fifteen games,

798
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: he's gonna be the fifth. Yeah, I think he will

799
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: get there. Maybe even if not, maybe there are special

800
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 3: packages where you get him out there and maybe he

801
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 3: starts ten games, but he plays in all seventeen and

802
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 3: in those seven games that he doesn't start, he gets

803
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 3: four or five carries in the game.

804
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 2: One quick thing on Anthony Richardson as well. I there

805
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: was a lot of conversation about, you know, nicknames and

806
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: what he likes to be called different things. I got

807
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: a clarification directly from him.

808
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: Short.

809
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: He likes ANT for sure, short for Anthony, and he

810
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 2: is good with AR. Just do you know AR stands

811
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: alone good and ANT in terms of if you're looking

812
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 2: for little ways to nickname or squeeze it in. Both

813
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 2: of those are are signed off on by Anthony Richardson.

814
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 1: Cool. I like it all right? Do you see it?

815
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Speaker 1: In twenty twenty one, Shane Steichen in Philadelphia, Dallas Goddard

816
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: the tight end. He played nearly seventy percent of the snaps.

817
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: He did miss five games with a shoulder injury last season,

818
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: so he was not able to meet that playing time

819
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 1: percentage in twenty twenty two. But Jelannie Woods will be

820
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: the tight end version of Goddard in Indianapolis next season. JJ,

821
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,839
Speaker 1: do you see it?

822
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: Probably not that quickly. Dallas Goddard didn't really start to

823
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 3: take off as one of the top tight ends in

824
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: the NFL until maybe two years ago. I mean he's

825
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 3: been good, don't get me wrong. Like his second year,

826
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 3: it was good. He had fifty eight catches for six

827
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,360
Speaker 3: hundred and seven yards five touchdowns. I kind of think,

828
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 3: you know, tight end development, year two is still you're

829
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 3: you're making strides, but you're not making strides to be

830
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: Dallas Goddard in twenty twenty one, when he was probably

831
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 3: a top five tight end in the league. That's a

832
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: high bar for a second year tight end to clear,

833
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 3: So I probably don't see it. I think Julyanni takes

834
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 3: a step this year, but I don't think he takes

835
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 3: He goes up to seventy. To do that in year

836
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 3: two is really really hard. And that's again that's not

837
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 3: saying he can't do it, but it's really hard.

838
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: I could see it. I definitely think he's going to

839
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 2: be valuable. However, in terms of the tight end group,

840
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 2: the guy I was most impressed with over this Ota

841
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 2: and Mini Camp period was Kylin Granson. Right now, to me,

842
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: he's your most valuable tight end from what we saw,

843
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: just specifically from what we saw in that narrow you

844
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: know that small sample size. At that period of time,

845
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: Jolanni was battling with a he had a pulled hamstring,

846
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 2: so he was sidelined for a bit. You know, obviously

847
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: Moali Cox. I'm so interested in where Drew Ogletree is

848
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:17,280
Speaker 2: coming back from the torn ACL This will be significant

849
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 2: for him. But I mean, I just thought Kylin, regardless

850
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: of which quarterback was out there, he was the most

851
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: consistent weapon on the field that I saw.

852
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,959
Speaker 3: So going back to our discussion about Richardson, and you know, okay,

853
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 3: are the Colts going to run the ball a lot?

854
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 3: Or are they going to be playing ketch up a lot?

855
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: If you're gonna run the ball a lot, you know,

856
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 3: you could have Granson out there, but you're gonna need

857
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: that true in line why tight end, which would be

858
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: Jilanni or Moali Cox. If you're gonna be playing ketchup,

859
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna be thrown it a lot to Kylin

860
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: Granson or Drew Ogletree. But you know, to be a

861
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 3: run heavy offense, you're probably going to need that inline

862
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 3: tight end who can block. And again, those two guys

863
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 3: would be Moley Cox or Jilanni Woods. That's right, I'm

864
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 3: at I think Moalley's probably ahead just because he's got

865
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: sperience in the league, you know when it comes to

866
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 3: run blocking. But if Julani can grow as a run blocker,

867
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 3: he could have a pretty big role in the.

868
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: Safe and you have to remind yourself, like three, well,

869
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: I guess more than that. But four years ago, five

870
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 2: years ago, this guy's playing quarterback, you know. So he

871
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,800
Speaker 2: has a huge you know, ceiling and a huge opportunity,

872
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: like he's still learning and grasping the position. And then

873
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: you think about last year as a rookie, he has

874
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: a change in his position, coach, like all of the

875
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 2: different things, I mean among all of the other you know,

876
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 2: kind of change that they endured. So I think that

877
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: he has an opportunity to prove a lot.

878
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm with you, j J. I mean, if he can

879
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 1: he's a willing blocker, if he can really improve in

880
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: the running game from his tight end position, he's the

881
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: only tight end I think the Colts have that has

882
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: the athleticism to really stretch the field the way that

883
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: Dallas Goddard can and the way that the Colts want

884
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: to be able to run their offense with their tight end.

885
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,399
Speaker 1: So if he can improve in the running game and

886
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 1: have there be no excuse to take him off the field,

887
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: I think he's got the ability to stay on the

888
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: field and dominate matchups. How are you gonna cover him

889
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: a safety, a linebacker, a nickel corner. The dude's what

890
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: six foot eight two.

891
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 3: Fifty thirty five inch arms.

892
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he and Alec Pierce are your two

893
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: biggest big play weapons going into the season. We'll see

894
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 1: where Josh Downs is in that regard. We'll see where

895
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie is with that. But I think as of

896
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: right now, it's fourteen and eighty one or eighty. I

897
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,359
Speaker 1: should say those two guys, I think are are huge

898
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: inside the red zone. If you can take, if you

899
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: can leave, I should say. Jelanny Woods on the field

900
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: in the running game, I don't know. I think he

901
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: might be able to sniff seventy percent of playing time.

902
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: I would love to see it, all right.

903
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: Speaking of playing time, the Colts are very high on

904
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: at A Tamawa at a Barre. They drafted him in

905
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: the third round at the Combine. Fourth round. Yeah, out

906
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: of Northwestern. We do know. He's over two eighty ran

907
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: a sub four five at four four nine in the

908
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: forty yard dash. He's even heavier than some of the

909
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: defensive ends the Colts have, and he ran a faster

910
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: time than sixteen wide receivers at the combine.

911
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: Unbelievable every time, every time you bring him up to

912
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 3: Bill Brooks, it just breaks Bill Brooks's mind because Bill

913
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 3: ran a four or five at the combine, which was

914
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: fast in the eighties, and at a time of while

915
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 3: at a bar A ran a faster forty yard dash

916
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 3: than Bill Brooks at like one hundred pounds heavier.

917
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 2: It's incredible, insanity.

918
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: And Northwestern twenty four and a half tackles for lost

919
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 1: twelve and a half sacks. He's likely going to start

920
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: the season as the backup in the defensive tackle rotation,

921
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: probably starting out as the backup to DeForest Buckner, but

922
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 1: the Colts are very high that he can add some

923
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: pop in the pass rush game with his quickness off

924
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: the ball. So the question is at a Barre is

925
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: going to see at least forty percent of the snaps

926
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, either at nose tackle or the

927
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 1: three tech.

928
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: Do you see that, Larra, I don't know, because that

929
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: means you're taking DeForest or Grover off. I mean, like

930
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: you know that's with those guys. You would kind of

931
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: like to see it because you would like to have

932
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: a really solid rotation in there and be able to

933
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: with all the things that DeForest has battled through injury

934
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: wise the last few seasons, you'd like to preserve him

935
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 2: a little bit and have it to where he's not

936
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: forced to do so much. So I think if you're

937
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 2: thinking about between those two, the opportunity has I'd like

938
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: to see it. I think you could certainly see that

939
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 2: being a probability in the season.

940
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 3: I think the guy to consider here is Tavin Bryan,

941
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 3: veteran who the Colts signed and free agency. He can

942
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 3: be He's that kind of veteran backup at those spots.

943
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 3: So I probably don't see it without a bare right now.

944
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: But I think if he's at twenty five percent of

945
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: the snaps and those are really good, then he'll continue

946
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 3: to earn them. But I mean, Larry, you're right about Buck.

947
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 3: I think you might want to get his snap percentage

948
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: down just a little bit.

949
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: He's had to do so much the last three years.

950
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 3: And he played set. He hasn't played fewer than seventy

951
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 3: five percent of the snaps in the games he's played

952
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 3: since he got to Indianapolis, and in his career he's

953
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: never played fewer than seventy five percent of the defensive

954
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 3: snaps in the games he's played. That is a lot

955
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: for a guy who's going into his eighth season in

956
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: the NFL. And buck keeps his body in unbelievable shape.

957
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: And he's still seeing high degree of double teams.

958
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 3: Too, and to getting double team he's fighting through stuff.

959
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: I mean this, dude, I mean.

960
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: At one point last year he was playing with essentially

961
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 2: one arm.

962
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 3: He's playing with a bionic army, and he's still at

963
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: eight sacks. There's no doubt that Buckner is one of

964
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 3: the toughest guys in the NFL, one of the most

965
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 3: in shape guys in the NFL. But could he potentially

966
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: be a little more effective on a down to down basis?

967
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 3: If he's at seventy three percent seventy two percent, that's

968
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 3: not that big of a drop off. He's still going

969
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 3: to be on the field a lot. But hey, let's

970
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: just kind of be intentional about keeping him as fresh

971
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 3: as he can. He's twenty nine years old, He's played

972
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 3: a lot of snaps in the NFL. I don't doubt

973
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: that he could play, you know, nine hundred snaps in

974
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 3: the season and be really good. But would he be

975
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 3: would it overall be better for the Colts defensive line

976
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 3: if he's at seven hundred right, and the other two

977
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 3: hundred then get dispersed to at a bare and Tavin Bryan.

978
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 1: And don't forget about Grover Stewart too, because he played

979
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: roughly about seventy percent of the snaps last.

980
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 3: Year, which for a nose tackle is like unbeliever, very high.

981
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's why. I mean the Colts couldn't

982
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: take him off the field because he was a really

983
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 1: good interior pass rusher on third and long and obvious

984
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 1: passing situations. So then you had me going back to

985
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: last year, Eric Johnson did he really didn't see the

986
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 1: field a ton last year. Byron Cowart, who's no longer

987
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: on the team, he played about twenty percent of the

988
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: snaps as a rotational defensive lineman last year, So I

989
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: do see at a Barre having a specific role maybe

990
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: on third down, red zone. But yeah, forty percent is

991
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit generous, I think, right out

992
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,040
Speaker 1: of the gate, considering the all Pro caliber players in

993
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: front of him that are still in their prime. I

994
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,879
Speaker 1: agree with you. Maybe DeForest Buckner doesn't need to play

995
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: eighty percent to preserve him, keep him fresh. Maybe he's

996
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 1: a little bit more efficient that way, but you still

997
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: want Buckner, you still want Stuart on the field more

998
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: often than not because of how good they are. All right,

999
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 1: that's do you see it? I think we got to

1000
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 1: close out here with some randomness. Let's go to the

1001
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 1: random thought of the week. Random thought of the week.

1002
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 2: And why is the carpet all with Todd?

1003
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, Marco.

1004
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: You guys going out of town do if it's cold

1005
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: there for these vans? Get good gas mileage?

1006
00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: Shut up?

1007
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 3: Shut up, shut up, shut shut up.

1008
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: Random Thought of the week. It's summertime here. We're kind

1009
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: of in the dog days of summer. We're creeping up

1010
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: on July. Simple, simple this week, Larry and JJ, what

1011
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,720
Speaker 1: was the best or worst summer job that you guys

1012
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: ever had?

1013
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 3: The only summer job I ever had was umpiring Little League.

1014
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,400
Speaker 3: Oh I got off so easy, so easy, And that

1015
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 3: was good dough doing that can yeah, ironed anywhere from

1016
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 3: twenty five to fifty bucks a game. Uh, I would

1017
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 3: do like double headers, make like one hundred bucks on

1018
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,000
Speaker 3: a Saturday, which is a sixteen year old was like

1019
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: making a billion dollars. Oh yeah, that was the best job.

1020
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 3: I I only threw out one parent. I only ever

1021
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: do eject.

1022
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: One more story story. Let me tell you we need

1023
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: a story.

1024
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,959
Speaker 3: As a sixteen year old ejecting a grown man from

1025
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 3: a park.

1026
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,840
Speaker 2: This is incredible.

1027
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 3: So that takes some stones man so that his kid,

1028
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 3: his kid ran out of the baseline to avoid a tag.

1029
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: The shortstop had the ball and he ran out of

1030
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 3: he like ran outo the infield to like like clearly

1031
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 3: out of the base pas. So I called him out

1032
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 3: and the dad's just like, what's he supposed to do?

1033
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: Like get tagged out? I mean, there's nothing you can

1034
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 3: do as a runner. The guy's got the ball, You're

1035
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 3: gonna get tagged out. So this dad's you know, grunting

1036
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 3: and moaning and whatever. So the inning goes, you know,

1037
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 3: finish up the inning. I go to get a drink

1038
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,719
Speaker 3: of water behind the backstop and he walks up to

1039
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: me and he goes, I really don't think you know

1040
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 3: what you're talking about, Like, I you know, you need

1041
00:47:58,320 --> 00:47:59,680
Speaker 3: to really read up on the rules, and you know

1042
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 3: you're really not good at this. And I turned around, Wait.

1043
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: A minute, how how old is the are the kids playing?

1044
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 3: These are probably thirteen thirteen year olds a right. So

1045
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: but so I turned and I walked away, and I

1046
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 3: went up to the coach of the team and I go,

1047
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 3: I'm not restarting the game until he leaves.

1048
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

1049
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 3: And I looked at him and I said, you gotta go,

1050
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 3: like to the parents, said you gotta go.

1051
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: And he goes.

1052
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: He like throws his hands and he goes, what do

1053
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 3: I do? And I was like, you gotta go. You

1054
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: can't talk to me like that.

1055
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: You gotta go.

1056
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 3: So I then stood there and you know, I'm I'm

1057
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 3: holding the ball and I'm standing over home plate in

1058
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 3: all my umpiring gear with my hands on my hips

1059
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 3: as I watch this guy like womble out of the park.

1060
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 3: And as soon as he puts two feet in the

1061
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 3: street and he's off park property, I go play ball.

1062
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: Felt great.

1063
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 3: One of the best feelings of my youth was ejecting this.

1064
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: Parent from the kids. Do you have any altercations in

1065
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,840
Speaker 1: the parking lot afterwards?

1066
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: No?

1067
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 1: No, he left.

1068
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure he came back to pick up

1069
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 3: his kid, but no, I didn't see him after Wow.

1070
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 3: Yeah I don't.

1071
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think and none were really bad. But

1072
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: I'll say, this is kind of funny. So I was

1073
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: pretty young, I don't know, I was maybe like twelve

1074
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: or so, and I would nanny in the summer for

1075
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: some kids and because their mom would run she'd like

1076
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 2: tennis camps, and so while her while the mom was

1077
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 2: running her tennis camps, I would watch the kids at

1078
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: the house. And the only reason I say it was

1079
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,399
Speaker 2: the worst is because I really I could take care

1080
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: of the kids and all of that, but I didn't

1081
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: know what I was doing in terms of like feeding

1082
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,760
Speaker 2: them in different things. And like one day the kids

1083
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 2: like I was like, I don't know, like there's some

1084
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 2: granola bars and whatever, and they were like they wanted

1085
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: a grilled cheese. One day, I did not make girl cheeses.

1086
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 2: Oh no, So I just took out bread. She was twelve,

1087
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 2: and I put she I bought got some like craft singles,

1088
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: and I was like, how do I heat this up?

1089
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 2: So I put it in the microwaves go, and then

1090
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: she just gave it to the kids. I'm sure it

1091
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: was awful.

1092
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 3: She probably five hundred degrees, so I'm.

1093
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: Sure it was the worst for them. So yeah, wow, yeah,

1094
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 2: so it was probably it wasn't the worse for me,

1095
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 2: but I'm just trying to like make do here. Yeah,

1096
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 2: so that's uh. That was like that was like my

1097
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 2: first summer job. But yeah, what about you.

1098
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:15,880
Speaker 1: The worst summer job I ever had? Well, it was.

1099
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: It was a good job, but it was just hard

1100
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: because of what it entailed. So I got a job.

1101
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 1: I loved it. My first job in radio was actually

1102
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: not in radio, but it was in radio. My job

1103
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: was to go to Clear Channel. It was Clear Channel

1104
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: at the time, right Q ninety five x one h

1105
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 1: three Bob and Tom Show. So basically they were running

1106
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: a new automated system for the for the summer, and

1107
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: my job was to make sure that the automation system

1108
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: didn't catch on fire. They just needed a.

1109
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 2: One common problem that they ran.

1110
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but they they were trying to test

1111
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: it out. So they were like, we just need somebody

1112
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: to come in overnights on Fridays and Saturdays from like

1113
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Speaker 1: eleven in the morning until six am or eleven pm

1114
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: to six am.

1115
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 2: The third shift.

1116
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, So my job was basically to come in overnight

1117
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: and just make sure nothing caught on fire. They needed

1118
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: a warm body there at the facility. I was like

1119
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 1: seventeen years old minimum wage as minimum wage can be.

1120
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: And I just it was hard because I like to sleep.

1121
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: I'd get to be like two thirty three in the morning,

1122
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 1: I've already watched like five reruns of Cheers on Niket night,

1123
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: and I'm like dozen off, but I can't fall asleep

1124
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: because if, I mean, if the building blows up or

1125
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,719
Speaker 1: the automation system you know, doesn't fire the way it's

1126
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,479
Speaker 1: supposed to, it's on me. So it was it was very,

1127
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: very hard. So there are a lot of a lot

1128
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Speaker 1: of like Saturday morning and Sunday mornings, I'd come home

1129
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,279
Speaker 1: and I'd get home by like six forty five, and

1130
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: I'd go to sleep until like three pm. But it's

1131
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I was I had the entire radio station,

1132
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: the whole complex, the entire building to myself.

1133
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: So I go, Okay, what what was the protocol if

1134
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 3: the thing caught on fire?

1135
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: I know, I'm sure I just had to call somebody,

1136
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: phone the program director or the GM's like.

1137
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 3: They didn't have like a bucket of water next to it,

1138
00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 3: or like it was more about the automation system, like

1139
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 3: if it went haywire was supposed to like click five

1140
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 3: buttons or something and make sure, it went back on track, but.

1141
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: It never happens.

1142
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 2: Literally, cartridge knock it back in it, it never happened.

1143
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 1: So I've got paid the entire summer to just sit

1144
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: and watch TV, which was great, but I was also

1145
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: just tired as hell on the weekends. But yeah, that

1146
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: was my first job in radio, was just sitting there.

1147
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 2: Probably wouldn't be where you are today if you hadn't

1148
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: had that experience.

1149
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I would go to the

1150
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 1: Q ninety five studio and just rip songs off the

1151
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 1: hardware and then put them on a thumb drive.

1152
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:37,920
Speaker 2: Amazing.

1153
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 4: Nice.

1154
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had like the entire Bob secret.

1155
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 3: Jimmy made us.

1156
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 2: Dog says we.

1157
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: Dog dog gave me the passwords so I can sneak

1158
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 1: into the hard drive for sure. All right, we are

1159
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: we're gonna be off next week, but we are gonna

1160
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: have some content. We're gonna have a fourth of July

1161
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,360
Speaker 1: podcast coming up next Tuesday, which is the fourth, but

1162
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna take that ahead of time, so it's not

1163
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: like we're going to be live, local and late breaking,

1164
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,840
Speaker 1: but we will have some content for you next week.

1165
00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: As the entire building, the entire office, the Colts Complex

1166
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: is going to be shut down. They're very gracious giving

1167
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,479
Speaker 1: the entire organization a week off for the fourth of July.

1168
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: So what do you guys have planned? What are you

1169
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 1: doing on your JJ? I know about you. You're you're

1170
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: flying the you're flying the country here, you're going to

1171
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 1: the European continent.

1172
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 4: I am.

1173
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 3: I'm going to Scotland on Sunday for a thrice delayed

1174
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 3: wedding celebration fu where one of my best friends got

1175
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 3: married to a Scottish woman. Was supposed to be in

1176
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 3: twenty twenty that got canceled. Long story short, it's in

1177
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three. They have a nine month old daughter

1178
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: and we'll be celebrating their wedding. Good for them castle

1179
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: in Scotland.

1180
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: It's awesome.

1181
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: Will there be bagpipes?

1182
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 3: No, the Scottish woman who my friend married hates bagpipes

1183
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: as far as I understand it.

1184
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 2: Interesting.

1185
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,840
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe kilts though I'm not wearing a kilt, but

1186
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 3: there will probably be kilts.

1187
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 2: Fantastic.

1188
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 3: But then there's that's on fourth of July and then

1189
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 3: Betsy's anniversaries on July seventh, so we're like, we're already

1190
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: in Europe. So we're gonna go. We're gonna go to

1191
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 3: Bordeaux for a couple of days in France. So I'm

1192
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,279
Speaker 3: gonna come back and my body's gonna be like eighty

1193
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 3: percent whiskey and wine.

1194
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: That is an ideal for my goal.

1195
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,040
Speaker 3: On this entire trip is to not drink one beer.

1196
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:18,479
Speaker 1: No beer.

1197
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:20,520
Speaker 2: Okay, oh fantastic.

1198
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's gonna work.

1199
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do that. I try.

1200
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:23,399
Speaker 1: I might.

1201
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,879
Speaker 2: I might vendmill you some money back, some wine bag.

1202
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 3: I'll bring you back. I'll bring it back wine. We

1203
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 3: have plenty of those, like wine bottle pack.

1204
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 2: I'll trade you some spotted cow because I'm Wisconsin.

1205
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,319
Speaker 3: Okay, you got a deal. Yeah, I'll trade you. I'll

1206
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: try you a bottle of wine.

1207
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:41,479
Speaker 1: We're doing the cabin life.

1208
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: We are doing the cabin life. Yeah, a couple of

1209
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: days up on the lake with some great friends of ours.

1210
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 2: And it's a place my husband has been going for

1211
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 2: probably twenty years. And uh, I finally get to accompany

1212
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 2: the crew along for the journey and they're bringing the kids.

1213
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,920
Speaker 2: This time. We have a couple of families that were

1214
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: going along with eleven people in total. Three cabins. It's

1215
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 2: gonna be great.

1216
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 3: That's great, fantastic in Wisconsin. Not sure yet Northwoods, Yes, yeah, yeah, nice.

1217
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: Awesome, Yeah, not sure yet. We're we're pretty wide open.

1218
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 2: So we'll have just got back your floor.

1219
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1220
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we'll see what what we could swing with

1221
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: a three year old and a six year old and

1222
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 1: not piss him off. That's pretty much good entire goal. Yeah,

1223
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: we'll see what kind of mood they're in on a

1224
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: daily basis.

1225
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: You can meet Casey Vot.

1226
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know about that. That's that's a hike.

1227
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: Our Person behind the Pads podcast is back this week.

1228
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor is going to join us join JJ. You

1229
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: had that conversation a little bit earlier in the off

1230
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: season regarding growing up in New Jersey, being the stud

1231
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: that he was, how he landed in Wisconsin, and his

1232
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: love for the stars in astronomy, JJ, this guy is

1233
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: uh supernatural looking up into the sky and having the

1234
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:52,960
Speaker 1: love for maybe some extra being somewhere out there.

1235
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 3: I mean the way that he framed the future of

1236
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 3: space travel, I was like, I never thought about it

1237
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 3: like that.

1238
00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 1: That's great. Yeah.

1239
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 3: Also it didn't make the podcast because is.

1240
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: He the next investor in SpaceX.

1241
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:07,320
Speaker 3: Like the thing. I wish that made it into the

1242
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 3: podcast because you know, we we finished talking and then afterwards, uh,

1243
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 3: you know, we were just kind of chatting and we

1244
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,760
Speaker 3: started talking about like his favorite restaurants here and he

1245
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 3: he has a very specific formula for steakhouses. He's like,

1246
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 3: I gotta go three times. If I go three times

1247
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 3: and I like it all three times, then it's on

1248
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 3: my favorites list. And like he he had like a

1249
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 3: very like like he's thought this through, and I'm like

1250
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 3: that's great.

1251
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, no shock that Jonathan Taylor is cerebral about everything.

1252
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,360
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, calculating. Yeah, I'm me.

1253
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 3: I'm I'm just a dope. I'm like, I really liked

1254
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 3: eating it, you know, prime, I'm just gonna keep going

1255
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:44,239
Speaker 3: back there.

1256
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you know. The Colts Reunion Podcast is back again.

1257
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 1: Bill Brooks and I we last week we had the

1258
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: unveiling of our conversation with Dallas Clark, the former Colts

1259
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 1: tied end. This week, Adam Vinati discusses his illustrious career,

1260
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: some time kicks in a Colts uniform, and what the

1261
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame would mean to him. In a couple

1262
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: of years. You know that's coming. The question is is

1263
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 1: whether or not that's a first ballot for Adam VINATII.

1264
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: Then the last word comes back. On Friday, our weekly

1265
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: offseason radio show myself and the Gore Man, we'll preview

1266
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: the Colts defensive line situation going into training camp. We'll

1267
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 1: talk more about at a bar a to Forest Buckner,

1268
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,439
Speaker 1: Grover Stewart, so on and so forth. Guys, well done.

1269
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: As always, as we said, well, have a fourth July

1270
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: podcast next week, but enjoy your vacations and we will

1271
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: do it again live in person in mid July, and

1272
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: then as soon as you know it, we're gonna be

1273
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: a training camp in late July up at Grand Park

1274
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 1: in Westfield. Colts dot com slash camp for the complete

1275
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: training camp schedule coming out later on tonight for jj LAIRA.

1276
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor. Thanks for listening to the official Colts podcast,

1277
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: brought to you by win Bet. As always, be sure

1278
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: to like and subscribe and have a great rest of

1279
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,200
Speaker 1: your week and we'll talk to you next week here

1280
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 1: on the Colts Audio Networks

1281
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 2: Stasting