Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody. It is Tuesday, November eleventh, and some
Speaker 1: big ditty headlines out in the last couple of days.
Speaker 1: The Big One did he could get out of jail
Speaker 1: a full year early, but he needs to stay out
Speaker 1: of trouble. If some of the headlines were reading are accurate,
Speaker 1: he could be maybe undoing some of the good he's
Speaker 1: doing in prison.
Speaker 2: Do you remember how much the judge in this case
Speaker 2: stay consistent about not trusting him, and how much you said, no, judge,
Speaker 2: but let me go home on bail and no, no
Speaker 2: d I How much could the judge possibly be fuming
Speaker 2: to hear that Diddy might be already breaking some rules.
Speaker 1: That's right. So headlines from his new facility. He was
Speaker 1: moved to Fort Dick's Prison on October thirtieth. That's a
Speaker 1: low security prison in New Jersey. Did he entered a
Speaker 1: drug rehab program. That's a good thing. He's working in
Speaker 1: the prison, another good thing. He got in trouble for
Speaker 1: a phone call. That's a really bad thing. And then
Speaker 1: now he's dealing with allegations that he vehemently denies that
Speaker 1: he drank some prison kool aid, so to speak, prison moonshine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that good old prison hoops. That prison wine, right,
Speaker 2: that's so famous. Look those two things of which order
Speaker 2: do you want to go here? Now? You said he's
Speaker 2: refuting allegations. Those allegations, to be clear here are not
Speaker 2: coming from any prison official.
Speaker 1: That's correct, And some of the other headlines have been
Speaker 1: at least verified by the prison from documents, etc. But no,
Speaker 1: these are the unverified claims that he was drinking homemade alcohol.
Speaker 1: They came from TMZ, who claims that two insiders inside
Speaker 1: the prison confirmed for them that he was caught with
Speaker 1: homemade alcohol. And I think what's making a lot of
Speaker 1: headlines is what that alcohol reportedly was comprised of fermented
Speaker 1: Fanta sugar and apples.
Speaker 2: As far as prison wine goes, that doesn't sound terrible
Speaker 2: from a lot of the other stuff I have heard. Yes,
Speaker 2: they get hands on simple stuff. I don't know if
Speaker 2: this happened. But to your point, TMZ has these headlines, TMZ,
Speaker 2: it's hilarious. They have sources in prison even and I
Speaker 2: believe them actually that they do have sources in prison.
Speaker 2: But to hear this already, it was important. Robes his
Speaker 2: team and he does have a team that is working, Yes,
Speaker 2: a legal team but he has a pr team already
Speaker 2: working for him. They jumped on this, they did so.
Speaker 1: This was the official response to all of this. This
Speaker 1: is only his first week at FCI four Dix, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately rumors will surface throughout his time here. We ask
Speaker 1: the public and the press to give him the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt, the privacy to focus on his personal growth,
Speaker 1: and the grace to move forward. In piece, they say,
Speaker 1: the rumors claiming mister Combs was caught with alcohol are
Speaker 1: completely false. Even his official Twitter account or x account
Speaker 1: that his family runs. This is interesting. They denied the claims.
Speaker 1: In a post over the weekend. It said the rumors
Speaker 1: claiming mister Colmbs was caught with alcohol are completely false.
Speaker 1: His only focus is becoming the best version of himself
Speaker 1: and returning to his family. They deleted that post after
Speaker 1: they put it up initially, but by all accounts, they
Speaker 1: have made it very clear that this is false.
Speaker 2: Reporting, and that's very important. He is already working on
Speaker 2: what he's going to do and how he's going to
Speaker 2: be embraced when he comes out. You don't need You're
Speaker 2: a week and a half in and already headline saying
Speaker 2: you're violating rules and you the guy who has been
Speaker 2: abusing alcohol and drugs for the past two decades. You
Speaker 2: say a week and a half and you're in there drinking.
Speaker 2: He cannot have those headlines. So this is important for
Speaker 2: them to shoot this down.
Speaker 1: Immediately because that drinking and those and the drugs that
Speaker 1: he admitted to taking over those decades, he says, were
Speaker 1: absolutely responsible for his behavior, responsible for fueling those freak offs.
Speaker 1: So it's incredibly important, more so than any other inmate,
Speaker 1: perhaps that he was clean.
Speaker 2: It forced him to get clean. During the trial, he
Speaker 2: didn't have access to anything, so he claims to be
Speaker 2: drug free and alcohol free. At this point, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I would love to ask the judge, hey man, what
Speaker 2: do you think Do.
Speaker 1: You think you did it? Do you think you did it?
Speaker 1: But he did enter this drug rehab program, and that
Speaker 1: is perhaps interestingly coming just what two three days after
Speaker 1: these initial reports of him drinking behind bars, So perhaps
Speaker 1: it all was timed out really well for him, and
Speaker 1: it looks like he is. This is a coveted program
Speaker 1: to get into. It's not easy to get into, and
Speaker 1: it's coveted because it comes with the promise that you
Speaker 1: can cut off serious time from your prison sentence if
Speaker 1: you successfully complete it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the judge, I mean before the end of that trial,
Speaker 2: before sentencing, they were pushing for the judge, please let
Speaker 2: him get into this program. Can you essentially put in
Speaker 2: a good word, And the judge was okay with that.
Speaker 2: And the judge was the one that said, yes, be
Speaker 2: a part of do this program and it could knock
Speaker 2: this time off your sentence. So he now is officially
Speaker 2: in it, and it's an extensive program. You're not in
Speaker 2: that for a couple of weeks, a month or two.
Speaker 2: This is almost a year long program he has to do.
Speaker 2: And so what we're talking about Robes is people were
Speaker 2: thinking he could get up to eleven years in prison.
Speaker 2: He ends up getting four, which now.
Speaker 1: Could end up down to three exactly.
Speaker 2: It's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nine months to twelve months in this program. It's
Speaker 1: a half day I believe each day. But even if
Speaker 1: he does get released early, did he would still have
Speaker 1: to be under supervision for five years.
Speaker 2: If he has a nice house where they can supervise him.
Speaker 1: But he does have to have drug testing and mental
Speaker 1: health meetings prescribed under his sentence. So all of that, yes,
Speaker 1: he could be doing it in the luxury of his
Speaker 1: own home. But he will be drug tested. He will
Speaker 1: be tested for substance abuse, so this is something that
Speaker 1: will at least be supervised. We're also learning about what
Speaker 1: he's doing now with this new lower security facility. He
Speaker 1: apparently also got a coveted job of working in the
Speaker 1: chapel in the library, where his Spokesversuon actually described did
Speaker 1: he is saying the environment is warm, respectful, and rewarding.
Speaker 2: Good. That should be the case for folks we're trying
Speaker 2: to rehabilitate. Fine, yes, that sounds wonderful. Now, I guess
Speaker 2: folks are scratching their heads. Well, how did he get
Speaker 2: a coveted spot? I mean, okay, I don't know all
Speaker 2: the inner workings, but I'm pretty sure he has a
Speaker 2: pretty damn good resume compared to the rest of the inmates.
Speaker 2: And if he hands in his professional resume, you know,
Speaker 2: he's kind of qualified.
Speaker 1: It might it might be a little better than the others. Right, So, yes,
Speaker 1: what he has to do he has to maintain the library,
Speaker 1: clean the office, help with some record keeping. But the
Speaker 1: reason why it's such a coveted job is that it
Speaker 1: allows inmates to work in a private office, which that's
Speaker 1: a big deal. Often they say it's climate controlled, which
Speaker 1: apparently is a big deal. They get. Here's the other
Speaker 1: thing they said. Chaplains will oftentimes bring in food because
Speaker 1: they'll have religious services, and they'll share them with their assistant.
Speaker 1: So did he might get some better food out of this.
Speaker 1: But here's the other big thing. Chaplains can allow their
Speaker 1: assistance to prepare what they call a call out list,
Speaker 1: and that tells officers which inmates get to leave their
Speaker 1: cell to go to programs or medical appointments. And those assistants,
Speaker 1: which did he now is can add connections or friends
Speaker 1: to that list. So he could. It's a position of
Speaker 1: power within the prison.
Speaker 2: Okay, so he gets.
Speaker 1: To he could could if the chaplain decides to let
Speaker 1: him prepare the call out lists, and some other assistants
Speaker 1: have gotten to do this. They're saying he could actually
Speaker 1: really have a decent amount of weight within or among
Speaker 1: their prisoners, knowing he gets to create or help curate
Speaker 1: this call out list.
Speaker 2: Is that the world? How much of this I don't know. Again,
Speaker 2: we don't know why some of this. How much of
Speaker 2: it is having a guy who is influential, who probably
Speaker 2: does have a lot of the respect of the guys
Speaker 2: there who also has been it was very business savvy.
Speaker 2: He's educated, even if not in school, he is at
Speaker 2: least educated in terms of life, so he might be
Speaker 2: in a perfect for this job. How much of it
Speaker 2: is as well? Is it disruptive at all to have
Speaker 2: him with the general population too much to where people
Speaker 2: can start leaking things to the press and things like that.
Speaker 2: We talked about this with Glenn Maxwell just the other day.
Speaker 2: Maybe they are trying to keep her separate for a
Speaker 2: whole host of reasons.
Speaker 1: Who knows all of that makes perfect sense. In addition
Speaker 1: to his resume, his attorneys or yes, his legal team
Speaker 1: is saying he is restarting his free game with Ditty.
Speaker 1: We heard about that at the sentencing and a little
Speaker 1: bit at the trial, that it's this class he is
Speaker 1: offering other inmates, an entrepreneurial class where he helps folks
Speaker 1: who are going to be heading out into the real
Speaker 1: world with actual life skills, improving their self worth, becoming
Speaker 1: productive citizens. And this is all a part of his
Speaker 1: do good behind bars, helping others and being a leader
Speaker 1: and a teacher and taking all of the stuff he
Speaker 1: did that was right in the world and bringing it
Speaker 1: to the prison.
Speaker 2: They have to applaud that.
Speaker 1: They certainly did.
Speaker 2: He has a lot to offer the prison population. I
Speaker 2: would argue seriously, he absolutely.
Speaker 1: Does, and like you said, the respect. Have you seen
Speaker 1: some of the photos TMZ also got of him out
Speaker 1: now breathing in fresh air, which his attorney said he
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to do in over a year, hanging out,
Speaker 1: but you could see everyone was around him smiles. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's a big deal to have Diddy in prison,
Speaker 1: and these are lower security criminals. These aren't folks necessarily
Speaker 1: who are the most violent. They're quite the opposite. So
Speaker 1: it's got to be a little bit more of a
Speaker 1: better social sit situation for Didty. We mentioned some of
Speaker 1: the good he did, some of the other problems already
Speaker 1: that have arisen in a week and a half. According
Speaker 1: to CBS News, he is facing disciplinary action right now
Speaker 1: for problems with phone usage.
Speaker 2: We hear this so often and a lot of big
Speaker 2: cases we've been covered. I guess the Menindez brothers were
Speaker 2: another one. But this is a big deal. This is
Speaker 2: considered a major violation. They can't monitor everybody with cell
Speaker 2: phones and what people are doing. They get a lot
Speaker 2: of hours actually to talk on folds. You got a
Speaker 2: lot of inmates. You can't monitor it.
Speaker 1: All for a thousand inmates.
Speaker 2: But if you're I mean, if you you know, and
Speaker 2: there's a reason these rules are in place to keep
Speaker 2: the guys on the inside for continuing any criminal activity
Speaker 2: on the outside. There's a reason for it. So even
Speaker 2: if you do it for an innocent reason, it's still
Speaker 2: a big deal.
Speaker 1: Right. So specifically, this rule that Ditty is alleged to
Speaker 1: have violated, so the Bureau of Prisons does not allow
Speaker 1: inmates to add add people to a call, So you
Speaker 1: can't conference somebody into a phone call. And the reason
Speaker 1: why is because they don't want inmates to coordinate criminal activity.
Speaker 1: And you can only talk to people who are on
Speaker 1: a specific list. So if you want to bring in
Speaker 1: someone who's not on your already authorized list, that'd be
Speaker 1: how you do it. You call someone like your mom
Speaker 1: who's on the list. She conferences in your criminal buddy,
Speaker 1: and now you're talking to somebody that wasn't approved.
Speaker 2: Okay, And you could see why that could go sideways
Speaker 2: and be used for criminal activity. You could see why
Speaker 2: somebody would accidentally and innocently make that mistake. I don't
Speaker 2: know if this was the rule at his other place
Speaker 2: at the NBC in Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Or not, but if you're all seemed like it would
Speaker 1: have been.
Speaker 2: But if you're thrown the phone talking to your mom,
Speaker 2: it's mentioned something about your niece. Oh my, is she around?
Speaker 2: Can you get her on the phone right quick? I
Speaker 2: want to say hi. You could see how that happens.
Speaker 1: Yes, and actually many people have said there are like
Speaker 1: absolutely innocent reasons for wanting to do that, because you
Speaker 1: only have limited amount of time, and if you can
Speaker 1: get all your family on one phone call, it certainly
Speaker 1: makes that easier. However, here is what is being alleged.
Speaker 1: Did he made a three person call on November third? Again?
Speaker 1: He got to the prison October thirtieth. He told officials
Speaker 1: it was a conversation with his legal team about issuing
Speaker 1: a statement to The New York Times. All we know,
Speaker 1: according to the documents that CBS got their hands on,
Speaker 1: he talked to an unnamed woman. Halfway through, she asks
Speaker 1: if she can add another person to the call. He
Speaker 1: says yes, And we know that Comb's talked about arranging
Speaker 1: visitors for the weekend and apparently suggested they bring cash.
Speaker 1: He asked for two hundred singles. We don't know why
Speaker 1: or how he was intending to use that money.
Speaker 2: Anything.
Speaker 1: Money is power, of course, and that's yes, he might
Speaker 1: need to get some things out of the vending machine.
Speaker 2: You suppose only have coins. That's why that was a problem.
Speaker 1: Correct. That is a clear violation to ask them to
Speaker 1: be in singles. He can only have coins.
Speaker 2: Could have been code for something else.
Speaker 1: Cigarettes, all right, So what apparently happened did? He says
Speaker 1: he didn't know the rules. He said no one told
Speaker 1: him he couldn't conference someone in, and he said he
Speaker 1: didn't receive the prison orientation handbook that he was supposed
Speaker 1: to receive. Okay, So his spokesperson gave this as the response.
Speaker 1: It was a procedural call initiated by one of his
Speaker 1: attorneys and was protected under attorney client privilege. There was
Speaker 1: nothing improper, that's what they said.
Speaker 2: But they didn't say anything about the other person being
Speaker 2: conferenced din. They did address that.
Speaker 1: Didn't say anything about that. So prison officials recommended that
Speaker 1: Combs lose ninety days of phone privileges and ninety days
Speaker 1: of commissary privileges because of this infraction.
Speaker 2: That's a big deal in prison.
Speaker 1: That is huge. So they filed that ruling on November fourth,
Speaker 1: so this is all verifiable and funny enough, November fourth
Speaker 1: was his birthday.
Speaker 2: And we don't know though, if this has been implemented.
Speaker 1: Unclear if what they recommended he'd be penalized with actually
Speaker 1: was in force. So we don't know if he can
Speaker 1: use the phone or not, but that certainly was what
Speaker 1: they were recommending based on the violation that he committed
Speaker 1: what three three days into this new home.
Speaker 2: We'll know about it soon because if he's using the
Speaker 2: phone still, we'll hear about the next violation.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we will. All right, when we come back,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the expedited appeals process that
Speaker 1: Diddy was granted just last week. So what does that
Speaker 1: look like, what are his other options of getting out early,
Speaker 1: and is he still holding out for that presidential pardon?
Speaker 2: All right, folks, we continue here now on Amy and
Speaker 2: TJ with Ditty. Have you noticed a theme here? A
Speaker 2: erbes and it's going to start happening. We're talking here
Speaker 2: now the headlines of I what's going on with him
Speaker 2: behind bars? The headlines before that were about his sentence.
Speaker 2: We're starting and it will over the next couple of years,
Speaker 2: don't you think start piecing together headlines about him that
Speaker 2: are not that video, that are not baby oil, that
Speaker 2: are not freak off. This is a part of him
Speaker 2: and him having a team responding, I mean, shooting down
Speaker 2: anything that's coming out negative from behind bars. So now
Speaker 2: we're talking about he works with the chapel, he's running
Speaker 2: Ditty's program, he's apologizing for a mistake in the phone. Right,
Speaker 2: there's just slowly but surely, and this has to be
Speaker 2: a part of him making a comeback of some kind.
Speaker 1: Look, if you've got all eyes on you, everything you're
Speaker 1: doing right, everything you're doing wrong behind bars, and somehow
Speaker 1: you've always got somebody leaking something to the press. This
Speaker 1: is a smart move. He knows he's being watched, and
Speaker 1: he knows it's going to be reported. But to have
Speaker 1: that PR team behind him is everything.
Speaker 2: But all of these stories we've been reading, all these
Speaker 2: headlines and all the updates, everything is not Cassi even
Speaker 2: terrifying anymore. Right, it's going too slowly but sure and
Speaker 2: it's going to take time for him. But this has
Speaker 2: to be a part of their strategies to make sure
Speaker 2: the headlines are about he's in rehab, he's being a
Speaker 2: good citizen in there.
Speaker 1: And refuting any negative rumors that are because those things
Speaker 1: can take flight and you can never undo them. And
Speaker 1: so they have been very quick and very swift to
Speaker 1: manage that. So he's got his pr team working on
Speaker 1: one hand, his legal team on the other, and they
Speaker 1: got an expect an expedited appeals process already set in place.
Speaker 1: That happened last week on November third.
Speaker 2: They had another positive headline.
Speaker 1: Yes, another positive headline. So his team has to get
Speaker 1: their brief into the courts by December twenty third. The
Speaker 1: government gets theirs by February twentieth. Comb's team gets to
Speaker 1: reply to the government's brief in March, and then oral
Speaker 1: arguments on an appeal are already set now for April
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six. That is a very speedy process.
Speaker 2: So, talking about speed, we talked about him possibly getting
Speaker 2: one year office sentence already. We still have to keep
Speaker 2: in mind he's got options now for that May twenty
Speaker 2: twenty eight date.
Speaker 1: Is it, Yes, the release May eighth, twenty twenty eight
Speaker 1: is his scheduled release date.
Speaker 2: That thing is moving back, ain't it.
Speaker 1: It could be May eighth, twenty twenty seven. Then you've
Speaker 1: got good behavior that can chip away at that time
Speaker 1: as well, and your appeals are still yeah, because the
Speaker 1: legal team, just to remind everyone, is challenging the Man
Speaker 1: Act and that is what prosecutors used to convict him,
Speaker 1: and a lot of people were believe that was a
Speaker 1: little bit of a shaky legal round there. This is
Speaker 1: a controversial act that was intended to basically prohibit people
Speaker 1: from transporting folks across state lines to engage in sexual
Speaker 1: activity or prostitution. And it was originally called the White
Speaker 1: Slave Traffic Act.
Speaker 2: Slave Traffic Act, what was it? Which championship boxer's married
Speaker 2: to a woman they got in trouble with this same
Speaker 2: it started being used in racist ways.
Speaker 1: Yes, to prohibit black men from having sex from white
Speaker 1: women with white women, period. So they are challenging the
Speaker 1: usage of the Man Act to Diddy, and you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people believe they have a decent argument there.
Speaker 1: Of course, that presidential pardon is still on the table.
Speaker 1: Trump has not ruled it out, not at all, and
Speaker 1: the Diddy team has acknowledged that they have officially asked
Speaker 1: the president to consider pardoning did he but.
Speaker 2: He handed out those pardons this week about the all
Speaker 2: the the Georgia election hoax, all that stuff. I was
Speaker 2: digging through there when I saw the headlines.
Speaker 1: Darryl Strawberry in there, I thought, well, he sneaked him
Speaker 1: in one of them. That was another. He's had a lot,
Speaker 1: He's had several waves of pardoning folks. Yes, so that
Speaker 1: is And look, TMZ had said, I believe it was
Speaker 1: two weeks ago that it was imminent that President Trump
Speaker 1: was absolutely going to pardon him. And they actually put
Speaker 1: something out saying we still stand by our reporting. They
Speaker 1: are putting us like a stake down saying he is
Speaker 1: President Trump is going to pardon Didny.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: We shall see. But yes, the eyes of the world
Speaker 1: continued to be on that Fort Dick's prison in New Jersey,
Speaker 1: and certainly we will be following the story as any
Speaker 1: new developments developed. But thank you for listening to us
Speaker 1: as always on Ami Robot alongside TJ. Holmes. We will
Speaker 1: talk to you soon.