Speaker 1: Hello everyone. This is the Queen of the stream, Francine,
Speaker 1: and you are listening to Eyes up Here with Francine
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Speaker 1: As always, I am joined by the Chadster Dad.
Speaker 2: What is up up? The gesture of jeering has returned
Speaker 2: for another round of Eyes up Here and wishing you
Speaker 2: a happy belated Easter.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you, hoppy Eastern to you. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what we were in.
Speaker 2: I hope you found it. I hope all you put
Speaker 2: all your eggs in one desk.
Speaker 1: I always do, don't I? And I'm like, what the
Speaker 1: hell did I just do? Oh my god? Did you
Speaker 1: have a good one?
Speaker 3: A great one? Still?
Speaker 2: Still no chocolate?
Speaker 1: No, no chocolate anything? Oh my god. Oh my friend
Speaker 1: Jean Douglas is calling me right now.
Speaker 2: Oh live call.
Speaker 1: No chocol No, I'm not going to take it. No chocolate,
Speaker 1: but anything else did you get? Did you partake in
Speaker 1: some peeps or no?
Speaker 2: I hate peeps. Peeps in me not on the same page.
Speaker 2: I love jelly beans, love the jelly beans.
Speaker 1: Okay, well you know I try to stay away, but
Speaker 1: I just can't. I got the kids. One of those
Speaker 1: big comes with fifty pieces from Amazon.
Speaker 2: You ever see those, I've seen them.
Speaker 1: Yes, I got the fifty pieceer. I got chocolate covered marshmallows.
Speaker 1: I got some sugar free gum for them. We're not
Speaker 1: big on candy. I guarantee you half of this stuff
Speaker 1: will be thrown away by you know, a week from now.
Speaker 1: But it's I said to my daughter, do I still
Speaker 1: have to do the Easter thing? Since you know we
Speaker 1: kind of know it's not a thing. She goes, yeah,
Speaker 1: we still want stuff?
Speaker 2: What it's not.
Speaker 1: I never told my son, but I did tell my daughter.
Speaker 1: You know, we went through this a long time ago.
Speaker 3: My daughter.
Speaker 1: My son still believes everything. He's twelve. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: come on, see, there's no one this stewed him off.
Speaker 2: That's my man right there.
Speaker 1: So who's going to stew him off? I'm gonna send
Speaker 1: our guests the link.
Speaker 2: By the way, were you gonna say the gimmick?
Speaker 1: The gimmick?
Speaker 3: I'm sending the gimmick gimmick?
Speaker 2: I was one of our videos we just posted about
Speaker 2: ways to tell you're a pro wrestler, and one of
Speaker 2: them was you call everything the gimmick.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It's always a gimmick. Okay, so I just sent the link.
Speaker 1: This is a two timer.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, taking his return pumped love it, my favorites
Speaker 2: now he's great guests, then great guests now.
Speaker 3: I hope.
Speaker 1: So he's got a lot to talk about this he does,
Speaker 1: he's making the rounds, he's he's he's a hawk modity
Speaker 1: right now and I'm hoping he clicks the links.
Speaker 2: Here's wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Okay, here.
Speaker 1: We go, are you right? Hold on? One of my
Speaker 1: favorite people in the world, one half of the w
Speaker 1: c W tag team, the American Males. It's Scotty Ragg. Listen, listen, yes, everybody, yeah.
Speaker 2: There is.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy that always sounds. I would crack
Speaker 3: up and think, how many people are actually watching your podcast?
Speaker 3: Are going? You know?
Speaker 1: Yesterday I watched the buff Bagwell Dark Side of the Ring,
Speaker 1: right and they played the American meals and everybody was
Speaker 1: dancing here. It was a cute moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one of the few.
Speaker 1: My friend, how are you doing well?
Speaker 3: How are you kiddo?
Speaker 1: I'm doing fabulous.
Speaker 3: Sweet sweet? How are you young man doing your coffee?
Speaker 2: Doing excellent? Scotty good to see you again.
Speaker 3: Very good, very good.
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure of seeing you a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks ago in Ohio.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that was way way cool. I got just
Speaker 3: to see a lot of people haven't seen in a
Speaker 3: long time, and it was truly just it was a blessing.
Speaker 3: It was kind of like a conversation we had for
Speaker 3: like an hour afterwards.
Speaker 1: So we so everybody's telling everybody, let's go out, let's
Speaker 1: do stuff, right, So yeah, let's go out. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go out. We're gonna I don't now, go to dinner,
Speaker 1: go drink, have a drink. Whatever. So I ended up
Speaker 1: actually going out to this dive bar earlier, right after
Speaker 1: the well right, well right, it was right after the signing.
Speaker 1: We had left and Guido called me and he said,
Speaker 1: we're at I don't even know the place, Come meet
Speaker 1: us and they have food. So we wanted to eat, right,
Speaker 1: So all of us go me Sandman Shane News like,
Speaker 1: there's promoters like Guido's sitting there and we walk in
Speaker 1: and it is a dive mall.
Speaker 3: Here's the you and the easy to be gang do
Speaker 3: that the American Males Vault team. We went to Steaky Shake.
Speaker 3: I got about listen.
Speaker 1: I like steak and shake, but Guido said, this is
Speaker 1: a fun bar, come come hang out. So I did.
Speaker 1: So I went. I had a couple of cocktails, I
Speaker 1: had a meal, and we just we stayed for about
Speaker 1: two hours and then it was seven o'clock. I was like,
Speaker 1: it feels like it's midnight.
Speaker 3: So the funny part.
Speaker 1: Is you made the same mistake as Shane Douglas did.
Speaker 1: I was staying at a quality inn and next store
Speaker 1: was an hotel called the Christopher something or other whatever.
Speaker 3: It was right in the Christopher. That's what I was doing.
Speaker 1: So earlier in the day, the night before. Actually, Shane says,
Speaker 1: I'm right next door to you. I'm gonna send Ned
Speaker 1: over with the car. We're five minutes away. You're gonna
Speaker 1: come and hang out. Well, I'm standing in the lobby
Speaker 1: and all these weird people are walking in and out
Speaker 1: and there's no Ned, and I'm like, where where are
Speaker 1: these people? And I'm looking at so Shane calls me
Speaker 1: and he says, go in the lobby. Do you see
Speaker 1: a ball that says blah blah blah? And I go no,
Speaker 1: and he goes, yeah, I was there earlier. It says
Speaker 1: this name, and he goes, is there a door to
Speaker 1: your right? I go, no, there's no door. He goes,
Speaker 1: where the hell are you? You guys were at another
Speaker 1: Christopher thing fifteen miles away from me. It was the
Speaker 1: wrong hotel. They had it following me next to them,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't there. So Sianni calls me the next
Speaker 1: night and says, I'm coming over, and I go, you
Speaker 1: can't because you're fifteen miles. So you and I ended
Speaker 1: up on the phone for about an hour and fifteen minutes, yeah, talking,
Speaker 1: which was loco. Yeah, but I wish we could have
Speaker 1: saw each other, but you were just too far away.
Speaker 1: And again I don't know where I was. I was
Speaker 1: in one town and they were in another town. So
Speaker 1: we got screwed up.
Speaker 3: But it was crazy. It worked, It worked out well
Speaker 3: that we still have a nice combo with you. What
Speaker 3: we needed we did.
Speaker 1: But I didn't want you to think it was I
Speaker 1: was trying to k fab you because I was literally
Speaker 1: fifteen miles in the other direction at this quality end.
Speaker 1: So that's what happened.
Speaker 3: It's all good, It is all good.
Speaker 1: But let me just say something. You look fantastic like
Speaker 1: you You look healthy, right, yes, very much.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 1: I think your mind is clear very much SOO okay,
Speaker 1: so going back, I watched ddp's little film that he puts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I retweeted that because I was just like, this is
Speaker 1: so powerful, you know, I want to help spread the word.
Speaker 1: I want everybody to see it. Can we go back?
Speaker 3: I know it.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be painful or anything. And
Speaker 1: I know you probably talked about it to death, but
Speaker 1: I think my listeners would like to hear about your
Speaker 1: journey right take us back, because last night when I
Speaker 1: was watching The Dark Side, Mark had said, you know,
Speaker 1: he picked up the phone and he called you and
Speaker 1: he wasn't aware of your situation. Correct, She is Marcus
Speaker 1: the one that actually started this journey for you to
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like come back and to.
Speaker 3: Give a little context to what's going on. I know
Speaker 3: you kind of went through this a little bit with
Speaker 3: your mom. My mom came ill around twenty seventeen twenty eighteen,
Speaker 3: and then basically I became here twenty four to seven
Speaker 3: caregiver right leading into COVID that whole time period there,
Speaker 3: and it was a four or five year period where
Speaker 3: I was pretty much emostly mentally physically just drained everything
Speaker 3: that was going in my life, financially drained everything that
Speaker 3: was going on you could think of. There was nothing
Speaker 3: left to me. I was just a hollow shell basically
Speaker 3: trying to exist, trying to make everything kind of happen
Speaker 3: as best I could survive. Was that what was that
Speaker 3: tatline survive you can't.
Speaker 1: Or see if you can survive.
Speaker 3: If I if I let you? Yeah, exactly that I
Speaker 3: was waiting for nature to finally not let me survive
Speaker 3: anymore in one sense, because something was leading me one
Speaker 3: way or the other, and what boiled down to it.
Speaker 3: There came to a point where, uh, the family home
Speaker 3: that I was in, I did. I had to take
Speaker 3: care of my mom's house for us to to live in,
Speaker 3: basically because I couldn't move over to Hilton Head where
Speaker 3: I was and I lived on the second floor of
Speaker 3: a condo and she couldn't go up downstairs for every
Speaker 3: helper you think of, so went back to the house,
Speaker 3: put handicapped wraps in, we did her bathroom, everything it
Speaker 3: could be done to the fit the house for her
Speaker 3: help and her well being, and she went up and down,
Speaker 3: up and down. Great got bisically better would go go go,
Speaker 3: then boom, have a downturn, then get better, get strunger again.
Speaker 3: I always thought she would come through this on the
Speaker 3: other end, flying collars. She had a stroke and at
Speaker 3: a two years old, that stroke. There's manners, they said
Speaker 3: it is. There's nothing minor about a stroke like that.
Speaker 3: So I basically came down to a point where I
Speaker 3: lost a house, I got poor closed on, and I
Speaker 3: was living in my car with a cat my mom
Speaker 3: one of the last things. And the cat's still around,
Speaker 3: believe or not. One of the last thing. My mom
Speaker 3: asked me, she goes, make sure you take care of
Speaker 3: the cat. And this guy did not like me. When
Speaker 3: I first moved back home to take care of my mom.
Speaker 3: He would not come around me. He would do nothing
Speaker 3: with me. I mean, he hated my guts unless I
Speaker 3: was feeding him otherwise, boom, he had nothing to dow with me.
Speaker 3: Walk into a room, he'd walk out of the room.
Speaker 1: Wait, he's an Eagles fan, that's why.
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, that might be it. I mean, I don't know, really,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, but the funny thing about the cat was,
Speaker 4: I mean, after my mom passed, it still took a
Speaker 4: year and a half almost for him to actually let
Speaker 4: me pet him.
Speaker 3: Because able to keep the house for about a year
Speaker 3: or so where he finally would engage me, let me
Speaker 3: scratch him, pet him, everything else. And I guess the
Speaker 3: cat realized Mom's not coming back. You know, that his
Speaker 3: one thing that was his his lifeblood, his person that
Speaker 3: he adopted. She adopted him, but he adopted her coming back.
Speaker 3: And I was there all the time, so he finally
Speaker 3: started let me pet him. So it's me and him
Speaker 3: in the car and because each other company was pretty
Speaker 3: good for a little bit. And i get a text
Speaker 3: from Marcus one day and I'm really trying to think
Speaker 3: the best way to say this was just at a
Speaker 3: at a downward turn where I really was about just
Speaker 3: to check out. I mean I was, even though it's
Speaker 3: not the best option. I had looked at every option
Speaker 3: ahead of me and going, you know, even our VD.
Speaker 3: As I reached out to him, he was like, dude,
Speaker 3: go to a shelter or something, you know, maybe I
Speaker 3: can put your home term. I'm like, no, you don't
Speaker 3: do that. I'm like, I have a car to sleep in,
Speaker 3: so I'm not going to take a bed up on
Speaker 3: a shelter. So I'm okay, I'll make it. I'm okay,
Speaker 3: and but I was in my mind get ready to
Speaker 3: kind of, you know, just check out, and I get
Speaker 3: the call. I got a text to Marcus goes, dude,
Speaker 3: Dark Side of the Ring might be one to interview
Speaker 3: you for a show they're doing. It's coming in a
Speaker 3: couple months. On the line. I pretty much him a
Speaker 3: text back and said, I don't know if it be
Speaker 3: any good for that. I'm living in my car right now,
Speaker 3: so thanks anyway, And about maybe five minutes into my
Speaker 3: phone starts ringing boom boom boom, like going, jeez, do
Speaker 3: I answer this or not? And it's Marcus if I
Speaker 3: talked to him, and he's back and forth with me
Speaker 3: about he's brow beating me about coming up to Atlanta.
Speaker 3: He's like, dude, I'm in this mansion of a house.
Speaker 3: It's the dp's accountability crib with Jake and Scott Hall
Speaker 3: and Butter being a lot of people stayed in the past,
Speaker 3: and he shot some shows, so it's more like it
Speaker 3: was his house, but he turned it into a production house.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So Marcus was standing there by himself and he was like, dude,
Speaker 3: come up here, come up here, and I was thinking
Speaker 3: about it and like going, well, I was trying to make
Speaker 3: every excuse in the book. I was like, uh, and
Speaker 3: he tires in my car. I need this, I need that,
Speaker 3: and I pretty much hang up with him. And Marcus
Speaker 3: has Steve You, who is Dallas's Dallas pages right hand man.
Speaker 3: As far as I know, everyone that has met Dallas
Speaker 3: and Steve you together, asked ow Dallas. Afterwards, Hey, where
Speaker 3: I find to Steve you? That's how good Steve you is.
Speaker 3: I mean, personality wise, thinking wise, he is a creative genius.
Speaker 3: She's got a gift. And basically Steve on the phone
Speaker 3: or stayed in Una Poe. But Steve started recording the
Speaker 3: next phone call Marcus May. He goes, let's find up
Speaker 3: what's going on here? And it's something happen this that
Speaker 3: we can You know, Steve's always always thinking maybe we
Speaker 3: can get Scotty appear to a story to this. There's
Speaker 3: maybe a happy ending, there's a there's a struggle, and
Speaker 3: that's the way they think that we can. He wants
Speaker 3: to help people. It's these greatest thing that he wants
Speaker 3: to invest in, and so he basically I started recording
Speaker 3: the phone call and Mark was like, dude, you're living
Speaker 3: in your car. What's going on? So I kind of
Speaker 3: explained to him, and I was very nice. I'm like, well, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: living my car, got this going on. Me and a
Speaker 3: cat guy placed count you over here where a staked
Speaker 3: that were pretty much safe at and stuff this and that,
Speaker 3: and even when Dallas heard the phone call afterwards, just
Speaker 3: going dude, why didn't y'all do like a take two
Speaker 3: or take three? Scotty sounds like he doesn't give a
Speaker 3: rat that. I'm sorry, it doesn't give you know, Scotty
Speaker 3: sound like he doesn't give a fuck about what's going on.
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, honestly, I mean, I was at a
Speaker 3: point where I just accepted what was going on. I
Speaker 3: accepted my fate. I was going to be in control
Speaker 3: of my faith. Nobody else was. Because I never wanted
Speaker 3: to burden anybody else. That was always my biggest thing,
Speaker 3: So I didn't reach out for others for help. Otherways,
Speaker 3: it was just me being me that I just did
Speaker 3: not reach out for help. I probably should have, and
Speaker 3: anybody else's, anybody else's in a position, I encourage you
Speaker 3: to do that, even though you want to make up
Speaker 3: heavy excuse in the book not too I've even I've
Speaker 3: tweeted out in the past, you know, reach out, you know,
Speaker 3: through my depression things that I was having years ago
Speaker 3: and been living with for a long time. And that's
Speaker 3: basically what happened is Marcus kind of got the ball rolling.
Speaker 3: The The funny thing I found out afterwards is Marcus
Speaker 3: is standing in Dallas's house, So Marcus has to go to, hey, Steve,
Speaker 3: it's no okay for Scott to come up here. And
Speaker 3: Steve's like, I'm pretty sure I don't think would be
Speaker 3: an issue, but yeah, tell him to come up here,
Speaker 3: tell him what take care of his tires. So I
Speaker 3: basically called god a tire apartment the very next morning,
Speaker 3: Sunday morning, to get my tires shapcare of. And I'm
Speaker 3: still in my mind trying to figure out way to
Speaker 3: get out of this in one sense, because I was like,
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to do it, you know,
Speaker 3: I just I'm I'm hostly, really comfortable where I'm at,
Speaker 3: accepting my fate and ready to go. And so they said, well,
Speaker 3: I just packed up my stuff in the sense and
Speaker 3: head up the road and found out later Dallas was
Speaker 3: actually in Alaska doing the thing up there, and had
Speaker 3: no idea what was going on until he got back
Speaker 3: to where he had cell service. He called the chicker
Speaker 3: was going on and said, hey, he's okay to sky
Speaker 3: he registers coming up And I was like, for what,
Speaker 3: oh for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell him, yeah, be sure,
Speaker 3: he's already here. He's already here, Okay, yeah, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: so I already come up there into another guy's house
Speaker 3: and didn't feel comfortable being up there at all, just
Speaker 3: because I didn't feel like I belonged. And that was
Speaker 3: kind of the where Yeah, Marcus had he was the
Speaker 3: the spark. They kind of lit the fire, They kind
Speaker 3: of got the ball rolling. Because one of the greatest
Speaker 3: things I found out coming up here was just how
Speaker 3: loving Dallas was. Steve you, a guy I didn't even know,
Speaker 3: had a heart of gold. All the people at the
Speaker 3: PC Center, DPY Performance Center, from Nadia, Kat Dylan, all
Speaker 3: the guys that worked there, and everything else. You walk
Speaker 3: in that place, there's energy that is just so real,
Speaker 3: genuine and positive.
Speaker 1: It's twisted, so hold it so you get there. Okay,
Speaker 1: Dallas comes in from his trip, what is the first
Speaker 1: thing that he makes you guys do because so many
Speaker 1: people like you mentioned Scott Hall, Jake Roberts, Butterbean, everybody
Speaker 1: goes there for help. Okay, that's the thing. You need help.
Speaker 1: So your state of mind now is you you accept
Speaker 1: your fate, you don't want to be here anymore, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. But you also know that these people are
Speaker 1: willing to help you. What is the first thing that
Speaker 1: Dallas makes you do?
Speaker 3: Sit down and talk with him.
Speaker 1: So you tell him, like, where your mind is that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? He he really just sits down and starts questioning
Speaker 3: what's going on with you? What's been happening? Why did
Speaker 3: you lose touch with me? All these things? And he's
Speaker 3: I mean, he's ten years older than me. I'm fifty
Speaker 3: seventy sixty seven and it was two about a year
Speaker 3: and a half ago now and that's not even been
Speaker 3: a year yet, a little over year now, and so
Speaker 3: he's still he has that older, wiser person and lve me.
Speaker 3: He's dealt with Jake, he's dealt with Scott, he's dealt
Speaker 3: with Marcus. He's dealt with guys who are train wrecks
Speaker 3: in one sense where they're combative to what's going on
Speaker 3: me That that would me. And we started talking and
Speaker 3: within the maybe five minutes, he goes, Dude, all these
Speaker 3: other guys have had addiction issues, have had alcohol issues
Speaker 3: or this and that. He goes, you, you just need
Speaker 3: to get your mind right. That might be harder, but
Speaker 3: with you being around the right people and getting doing
Speaker 3: the right things again in your life instead of you know,
Speaker 3: giving all your energy to your mom, direct all that
Speaker 3: to yourself for a change, give it to yourself. And
Speaker 3: he goes. I said, dude, don't feel like I really
Speaker 3: belong here. He goes, dude, you do. We love you.
Speaker 3: You belong here. How they put it to me, it
Speaker 3: was the only way you can pay The only way
Speaker 3: I want you to pay me back for this whole
Speaker 3: thing is just become the best you you can be.
Speaker 3: That's all I want you to do. Yeah. And at
Speaker 3: the point in time, I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 3: it before and after pictures and stuff like that, but
Speaker 3: when I came here, I hadn't worked out in probably
Speaker 3: five or six years. Body looked like, you know, mashed potatoes. Basically,
Speaker 3: I had a thirty inch ways waiting two forty one
Speaker 3: and so it took a couple of weeks basically that
Speaker 3: they just let me kind of decompress, sleep, wander around,
Speaker 3: kind of do some stuff in my own little bit,
Speaker 3: get used to the house. I would actually walk around
Speaker 3: the house numerous times, going, well, that coffeemaker is actually mine. Down,
Speaker 3: said it's mine. I can sit in the sofa and
Speaker 3: I can take a nap on the sofa that's down,
Speaker 3: said this is mine. I would walk around every room
Speaker 3: in the house and it sets to go this is
Speaker 3: mine's down, said, this is my feel comfortable, this house
Speaker 3: is yours, and I would have to actually walked around
Speaker 3: there trying to accept, you know, this is mine. I
Speaker 3: put it the address of the house on my phone,
Speaker 3: which is the only way that I actually, in one sense,
Speaker 3: took ownership of it in a sense if you be able
Speaker 3: to put it that way, that I said to that
Speaker 3: I actually belonged there. And I could actually put the
Speaker 3: address the house my phone that was my address given
Speaker 3: to me. Now, so I actually had a place to
Speaker 3: live with an address to it my phone and everything
Speaker 3: else that I looked at it and go okay, and
Speaker 3: now I do belong in that sense. I mean, it's
Speaker 3: it's all, but it's so good now though.
Speaker 1: No I know. Look, I've kept in touch with you
Speaker 1: over the years, and not once did I know you
Speaker 1: were living in your car.
Speaker 3: You would We're supposed to.
Speaker 1: I know that, but like when you would get back
Speaker 1: to me, you know, you would give me these messages
Speaker 1: like doing the best I can, kiddo, or you know,
Speaker 1: taking it day by day, or and they were never
Speaker 1: like I never got the sense that you were like
Speaker 1: doing great, but I never knew how bad it was
Speaker 1: because you kind of sugarcoated it for me, you know.
Speaker 3: And I did that pretty much everybody. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to burden anybody and of the stuff I was going through.
Speaker 1: Okay, finish you were You're my friend, You're never a burden,
Speaker 1: and that that was our comms.
Speaker 3: I heard that. I've heard that. Everybody has said that, Jimmy.
Speaker 1: And then we can get to a conversation because I
Speaker 1: cried when I hung up the phone.
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna let.
Speaker 1: But so finished. So you're you're in this house, which
Speaker 1: is much nicer than living in your car.
Speaker 3: A little bit a little bit of One of the
Speaker 3: things I found out that between a house and a
Speaker 3: car is you have room to do this other then.
Speaker 1: Is your cat in the house yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the house's actually out. He's out. He's outside right now.
Speaker 1: Does he come in in Dallas?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I told that was you know, I
Speaker 3: told Steve I got a cat. He's like, yeah, bring
Speaker 3: it up. I got I got some cats too. So
Speaker 3: he actually went to his house, got a pan for
Speaker 3: me and some keys, letter and put up in my room.
Speaker 3: Now standing and cat came with me in the room.
Speaker 3: He's stayed in the room for a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: So he started to venture on the house and then
Speaker 3: he started going more. He's about eight percent outside cat.
Speaker 3: Even at my mom's we hang out outside all day, cold,
Speaker 3: rainy nights whatever. He come inside and then he won't
Speaker 3: be outside all day. It's pretty much what he does
Speaker 3: right here. Now. He just goes outside and hangs out
Speaker 3: and comes in and sleeps from me in the bed.
Speaker 3: Here was the cat who didn't like me. Now he
Speaker 3: sleeps in the bed. I wake up in his butt
Speaker 3: or his face.
Speaker 2: He likes you now that you're in the house.
Speaker 3: He likes you now. Yeah, yes, definitely, definitely. He's all
Speaker 3: up in my camp forgetting me. Continue.
Speaker 1: So now, so you tell Dallas everything. You're getting to
Speaker 1: know the house. You take a couple of weeks to
Speaker 1: get familiarized. Then is it like, okay, we're getting the work.
Speaker 3: Well pretty much again. Because I hadn't worked out in
Speaker 3: so long, it was like, okay, this is what we're
Speaker 3: going to do, uh to start working out watch, you know.
Speaker 3: So took me to La Fitness where we worked out
Speaker 3: and everything else and Planet Putting also with two places
Speaker 3: they were working out already, so I joined him over
Speaker 3: there three four nights a week. We started working out.
Speaker 3: During the day I actually would be doing I'd wake
Speaker 3: up because because basically sleep in my car, I would
Speaker 3: fall asleep out nine o'clock at night, old man style
Speaker 3: because they got dark, you know, I'd walk my phone
Speaker 3: for a little bit, like there's no darkness, there's no light,
Speaker 3: so boom, I fall asleep. Then once the sun came
Speaker 3: up around six thirty seven o'clock, I was up. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And so basically I was going on with the house
Speaker 3: where everybody else would be sleeping until ten eleven o'clock.
Speaker 3: Their day would be starting around noon one o'clock and stuff,
Speaker 3: but you know, go a little bit later, but that's
Speaker 3: when they're day were starting there. I was up at
Speaker 3: seven thirty. I started off using elliptical that he had
Speaker 3: the garage. I'd moved the garage around except the elliptical
Speaker 3: and start doing some cardio, about thirty forty five minutes
Speaker 3: of that. Then I'd do about thirty minutes of DDPY,
Speaker 3: both flexibility strength just building cardio. I knew if I
Speaker 3: if I wanted to restart reshaping my body a bit,
Speaker 3: I got to start doing things that I'd done in
Speaker 3: the past that did give me joy, that did give
Speaker 3: me made me feel better about myself. And that was
Speaker 3: one of the things I had to invest in again.
Speaker 3: Instead of point online energy in my mom and didn't
Speaker 3: care of her, I had to take what energy I
Speaker 3: had and the energy that everybody else was blessing me
Speaker 3: with good the grace to be around these guys, and
Speaker 3: pour that back into myself.
Speaker 1: So, but when you're living in your car, your diet
Speaker 1: had to be horrible, right it was.
Speaker 3: Well, it was. It was pretty much as best I could,
Speaker 3: like a couple of Wendy's chicken sandwiches, trying not to
Speaker 3: eat the bread, but sometimes to eat the bread. So
Speaker 3: but you know, two or three chicken sandwiches a day
Speaker 3: and maybe something else if I can go it to
Speaker 3: like a to a grocery store and like get a
Speaker 3: rechischery chicken and stuff like that. Someone eating bad, But
Speaker 3: I wasn't eating great. It still wasn't eating health.
Speaker 5: I wasn't exercising it still right, Okay, So now you're
Speaker 5: able to exercise, and now you have the capacity to
Speaker 5: be healthy and eat the right food.
Speaker 3: That's what Marcus and Steve both helped me with my diet.
Speaker 3: Yep ddp helped me with doing the get back into
Speaker 3: working out with him doing some yoga right, so he
Speaker 3: would bring me over once or twice a week to
Speaker 3: do the dep DPY yoga stuff. When he produced me
Speaker 3: the ice tub that he had in his house to
Speaker 3: do the ice ice plunge. Loved him. Loved them. Actually,
Speaker 3: and you'rely supposed to do. Here is some of the
Speaker 3: some of the things that started happening. Where I would
Speaker 3: I would like doing the cardio when the electrical I'll
Speaker 3: get on there for like a half hour forty five minutes.
Speaker 3: I found the time I would be doing an hour
Speaker 3: and we'll get totally lost to my own thoughts. And
Speaker 3: I had to do that to start strengthening my mind again,
Speaker 3: to really focus on what I've been through to not
Speaker 3: want to go through there again, and but I need
Speaker 3: that time to do that myself. Also in a better
Speaker 3: and more positive environment that makes any sense, it does,
Speaker 3: and they're working out with Marcus and Steve at Knight
Speaker 3: a couple of times a week. Dows again would have
Speaker 3: me over and be on him and his wife Page
Speaker 3: in that environment was more just energy. It's more positive,
Speaker 3: and it's more focused and doing the plumb. I plunged
Speaker 3: with dollas you was supposed to do maybe three five
Speaker 3: seven minutes tops. There were two occasions that were dallases
Speaker 3: that he would do the tub first. He'd go in
Speaker 3: there and start doing some things to warm up and
Speaker 3: get ready to do some workouts. I get in the
Speaker 3: tub and I was actually zen out as well. I was.
Speaker 3: I called it. I was zen. I'd start looking at
Speaker 3: squirrels or looking at a tree or looking at something
Speaker 3: and completely get lost. And I was for him for
Speaker 3: seventeen minutes one time and twenty five minutes another time.
Speaker 1: I'm freaking made.
Speaker 3: All the one on my neck like this. And they
Speaker 3: were asked and Tony Freeman, the guy working out with
Speaker 3: walking and Scotty you, OKAYM like yeah, why he goes,
Speaker 3: you know all you've been in there, what about ten minutes?
Speaker 3: Because twenty five, bro, I went WHOA. I didn't mean through,
Speaker 3: it just happened. And that's where my mind in a sense,
Speaker 3: needed some of these things to just release itself, to
Speaker 3: decompressed to there are all these little things that for
Speaker 3: the longest time I sat there by myself, in my
Speaker 3: own lucky mere, just sitting everything weighed me down. There
Speaker 3: were obviously to take advantage that I just didn't want to.
Speaker 3: I just didn't.
Speaker 1: Because did you feel like you didn't deserve it?
Speaker 3: I would say part of it was didn't deserve it,
Speaker 3: but part of it was I was so just I
Speaker 3: didn't I think the right way. I just didn't have
Speaker 3: the energy to pursue it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I just I knew there were things out there, but
Speaker 3: I just was like, I'm just so exhausted mentally, physically,
Speaker 3: emotionally from everything doing mom that it was. It's not
Speaker 3: her fault, but it was just the situation the way
Speaker 3: the world was in for about a year, you know,
Speaker 3: the whole COVID thing. It was just so taxing and
Speaker 3: so draining on me that I just hit the point
Speaker 3: of surrender. You know, I was very tap out. Was
Speaker 3: just it was done. But to get back around the
Speaker 3: right people, the right atmosphere, have me doing the right things,
Speaker 3: I was able to start changing my mindset. I was
Speaker 3: able to start making the right choices, the right directions,
Speaker 3: the right like I would always film these little things
Speaker 3: the last thirty seconds and I'm being on the bike
Speaker 3: at forty five minutes, you know, forty four to thirty
Speaker 3: I filmed, and I send it to Steve, Dallas, Marcus RBD,
Speaker 3: everybody that knew, kind of and it would always get
Speaker 3: back you know, just that that encouragement. Dude, you're kicking,
Speaker 3: but you're kicking assautiful, keep going, keep going, keep going,
Speaker 3: do your Rochester always back for it, back for And
Speaker 3: they just kept building on me. And that encouragement made
Speaker 3: me more more, reach out more, reach out more, and
Speaker 3: just wanted to In one sense, I wanted to be
Speaker 3: a like that was to be the best way I can.
Speaker 3: But I also wanted to because he had poured so
Speaker 3: much into me, Steve had, Margaret's had that I wanted
Speaker 3: to show them that I was worth it, that I
Speaker 3: was gonna put my work into and earn my spot
Speaker 3: being there. Yeah, because that's why I've always been got
Speaker 3: to earn it.
Speaker 1: I can relate with the mom. Yeah story, you know,
Speaker 1: I went through the same thing here.
Speaker 3: And that was also one of the other reasons I
Speaker 3: didn't say anything to you, because I knew you come
Speaker 3: kind of gone through it. You have the hobby and
Speaker 3: the kids in one sense to kind of encourage you.
Speaker 3: And I was like, I can't really add on her
Speaker 3: because what I'm going through, she's going through and I
Speaker 3: can't say anything.
Speaker 1: Well, we could have, because we could have.
Speaker 3: We could have compared Yeah, I could have compared notes
Speaker 3: and situations, maybe with more encouragement to each other. But
Speaker 3: again the mindset I had switch did not flip the light.
Speaker 3: The light bulbent did not turn on. Was you know,
Speaker 3: to be a resource for each other. Yeah, you know, no,
Speaker 3: I was just I was a little too selfish and
Speaker 3: just going I'm just not gonna bother or soul just
Speaker 3: to a thing, get through this and be.
Speaker 1: Able to never bother to your friends, like that's why
Speaker 1: we're friends. Like friends don't bother friends, and you you
Speaker 1: have to get that in your head. And you know,
Speaker 1: one of the things I told you as soon as
Speaker 1: I saw you, I think the first thing I said
Speaker 1: was how proud I am of you for even doing
Speaker 1: all of this, because it's easy to give up, but
Speaker 1: it's harder to make the comeback. And you made the comeback,
Speaker 1: and that's something that you should be so proud of,
Speaker 1: and we're all so proud of you for doing so,
Speaker 1: because again, I you know, I knew you were having problems,
Speaker 1: but I didn't know how bad it was. And even
Speaker 1: if I did, you know, you can only hear somebody
Speaker 1: for so long. It's you who has to believe it
Speaker 1: and do it yourself, and we can encourage you, but
Speaker 1: then you need to take that next step, and you
Speaker 1: did so. That shows a tremendous amount of courage, number one.
Speaker 1: And look at you now, it's my heart would have broke,
Speaker 1: honest to god. I mean I've lost so many friends, yeah,
Speaker 1: over drug, over alcohol, and over depression. I mean, look
Speaker 1: at Shannon, and you know she's been it's going on
Speaker 1: three years now, and in my mind, I keep saying
Speaker 1: to myself, if could I have been there more for her?
Speaker 1: I don't think I could have, because anytime she would
Speaker 1: call me, I would pick up that phone. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: what I mean, and I would have did it for you.
Speaker 1: And that's what I told you when we talked. If
Speaker 1: you you know, you have plenty of friends, I get it.
Speaker 1: But if you need someone.
Speaker 3: And you can't, I got plenty of acquaintances, but only
Speaker 3: a handful of friends. You.
Speaker 1: I told you you can call me if if you're falling,
Speaker 1: if you feel like you're alone, pick up that phone
Speaker 1: and call me. Because I did not want to hang
Speaker 1: up that phone the other night, I listened and I
Speaker 1: let you. You know, a lot of this stuff you
Speaker 1: told me already, but I feel like it's important for
Speaker 1: people to hear it because a lot of people struggle,
Speaker 1: whether it be with substance abuse or with their own mind,
Speaker 1: you know, with depression. Uh, there are people out there
Speaker 1: who care. And even if you think there's not, we
Speaker 1: are here and we care.
Speaker 3: So you I've always been told at one point some
Speaker 3: of the what are your greatest uh? What you what
Speaker 3: you uh have? What do you uh? What you consider
Speaker 3: your greatest weakness is only an untapped strength? Mmm? Interesting?
Speaker 3: So that that I mean part of my again, my
Speaker 3: depression was one of my It was a huge weakness
Speaker 3: to me. But now being able to find out ways
Speaker 3: to overcome it, not just to put out a tweet
Speaker 3: I thought of for a couple of days to make
Speaker 3: people feel good and get two lights and thumbs up
Speaker 3: and maybe help one or two people. You get something
Speaker 3: out of that to hear that from me. But actually,
Speaker 3: now that was an untapped strength that I have, and
Speaker 3: now I can kind of come back, as you said,
Speaker 3: out a comeback where again, one of the coolest things
Speaker 3: Dallas has always had said to me recently was he Goes. Dude,
Speaker 3: you didn't what you did in six months. We figured
Speaker 3: it would take you a year physically to get to
Speaker 3: he goes. You went from you know, to forty one
Speaker 3: with a thirty inch thirty thirty eight inch waist if
Speaker 3: you know how round that is to go to a
Speaker 3: I mean about two twenty four with a thirty four
Speaker 3: inch waist thirty five minutes right in between there. So
Speaker 3: I lost three to eight four inches on my waist
Speaker 3: six months. And that was diet, that was working out,
Speaker 3: That was getting up every morning and instead of just
Speaker 3: getting up and doing a little bit of this, a
Speaker 3: little bit of that, and then not doing anything the
Speaker 3: rest of today except existing, I gave myself a purpose.
Speaker 3: I gave myself direction and everybody was something with a
Speaker 3: discipline part by you know, staying on me. You know,
Speaker 3: Marcus would encourage me to do this, Dallas don encourage
Speaker 3: me that, Steve would be make me on this, and
Speaker 3: each one was kind of whether they knew it or not,
Speaker 3: I don't think they game planned it, but they were
Speaker 3: all helping with little bits and pieces. Steve was always
Speaker 3: helping me with my thought processes, telling me instead of
Speaker 3: I would get I'd be way too argumentative with him.
Speaker 3: So I was always trying to like I didn't mean
Speaker 3: to be, but I was being like, he would tell
Speaker 3: me this, so I go, but if you think about it, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: and he'd be going and this, and then listening, and
Speaker 3: then when he says something, I go but still and
Speaker 3: I would never let him finish, and he finally would go, dude,
Speaker 3: stop arguing, arguing. It was no shut up for a minute,
Speaker 3: and then he was working my mind to make me
Speaker 3: start thinking, Okay, listen more zip It be like be
Speaker 3: be at the Greenhorn Wrestlers, yip your mouth, clean your
Speaker 3: ears out and listen. You know, when you're in the
Speaker 3: ring calling match and listen to the veteran and that's
Speaker 3: so Steve was doing with my mind, and I didn't
Speaker 3: realize until after the fact that that's where Steve was
Speaker 3: helping me out. Dallas was doing the same thing, working
Speaker 3: mind and my spirit and and my physical with the
Speaker 3: workouts and stuff like that, being his energy, his positive vibe,
Speaker 3: just the way that he wanted to see me successful.
Speaker 3: And then and Marcus with my diet and workouts. Marcus
Speaker 3: helped me to get cleaned up my diet and getting
Speaker 3: the carbs on the system, all these little things. And
Speaker 3: once my body started getting healthier and my mind cleared,
Speaker 3: and I just got that just that darkness and turning
Speaker 3: a few lights, which is I just sat back and said,
Speaker 3: you know, there is a reason to live. There are
Speaker 3: people who do love me. And that was one of
Speaker 3: the biggest things I took waiting for a conversation, is
Speaker 3: whether I realized it or not. And it's been a
Speaker 3: major blessing about going to a couple of conventions Racis
Speaker 3: and a couple of things. Is just seeing some folks
Speaker 3: that I hadn't seen him in twenty years, thinking, man,
Speaker 3: these people don't like me, and they hadn't seen me forever.
Speaker 3: You know, I was part of it. I was American Medals.
Speaker 3: Mark Bagwell Market was the heat sinking missile, and because
Speaker 3: I was with Marcus, I was the heat siking missile too.
Speaker 3: So boom boom, I was getting left right just from
Speaker 3: being with Marcus. Boom. I get to the other side too,
Speaker 3: just for being with Marcus. So I was that that
Speaker 3: was part of the it was it. It was part
Speaker 3: of the thing about being American mail too, But it
Speaker 3: was just to be around an energy that I did
Speaker 3: see these people, I mean one of the one of
Speaker 3: the funniest worts that I can put. This is my
Speaker 3: first match, or my margus is first match with w
Speaker 3: c W was fall braw, the main event before the
Speaker 3: pay per view show. We had to wrestle the nasty boys.
Speaker 3: There's nobs and SAgs, so I really don't know. I'm
Speaker 3: the young guy that had to put us over. So
Speaker 3: they're not happy behind to put the young guys over.
Speaker 3: I'm the complete rookie greenhorn coming from usw A. They
Speaker 3: didn't like that, so Knobs not but SAgs, dark haired
Speaker 3: guy tell me bullollss me into the corner and hits
Speaker 3: me with twenty two unanswered live round punches and kicks.
Speaker 3: Bathing trying to you know, duncan dodge, but getting just
Speaker 3: getting land basic because it came out of nowhere. Randy
Speaker 3: Anderson referees trying to interject stop it. SAgs the nobs
Speaker 3: comes over and preaches them off, and what are you
Speaker 3: doing now right? You know what, I'm just walking into
Speaker 3: the company with what he was what he screamed out,
Speaker 3: and I'm just going, wow, hello, I got a nod
Speaker 3: on my head and sorry's coming up. I can feel
Speaker 3: it all this stuff. But at the the it was
Speaker 3: the big event in New York. I went up there
Speaker 3: and I see Kevin Nash. I walked toward and said
Speaker 3: the little cabinet. Kevin was like, oh, hey, Sky, how
Speaker 3: are you going? I gotta gorish as ready to leave,
Speaker 3: so good to good talk to you see you later.
Speaker 3: After like ten seconds of Kevin like going okay, that
Speaker 3: was kind of like, uh, that was no fun. But
Speaker 3: out of the corner of my eye, here's jobs as SAgs,
Speaker 3: especially SAgs Scotty good come on here, you're bastard. I'm like,
Speaker 3: holy cow, you know, here are two guys. I thought.
Speaker 3: Jumie did not like me at all, calling me over
Speaker 3: from across the room, after not after Snash blows me off.
Speaker 3: But here are two cats who I thought didn't like
Speaker 3: me at all calling for me to come over. Ye,
Speaker 3: SAgs Nobbs. We couldn't get up, but same a big
Speaker 3: barrel hug and I'm like going, wow, this is completely
Speaker 3: what my mind did not think up with these guys right,
Speaker 3: and they were so happy to see me. It was
Speaker 3: that same type of thing of like, man, you know,
Speaker 3: we've lost so many people on the way. Nobody knew
Speaker 3: how you were. You fell out of this that we
Speaker 3: didn't see you. Nobody knew if you were alive, dead,
Speaker 3: you're still alive. We're good to see you. You look great.
Speaker 3: You know. This is when I got in good shape.
Speaker 3: You know, it's been about nine months, you know, eight
Speaker 3: nine months when I when I saw them and they
Speaker 3: were like, wow, dude, you look great and everything else
Speaker 3: is so to me. That was just a huge thing
Speaker 3: kind of like what we were talking about on the
Speaker 3: phone call was just hear that people that I don't
Speaker 3: think give up finding physicizing about me, but they do,
Speaker 3: you know, And that was that became real and genuine space.
Speaker 3: Like I said, and SAgs of all people goes because
Speaker 3: I told that story the day before at a signing
Speaker 3: with a couple of guys at this coming with Restling
Speaker 3: Store and because it's one of my best first ever
Speaker 3: w c W stories Live House by SAgs, he goes
Speaker 3: Man thought at this thought, all you telling that story
Speaker 3: make me feel bad. I'm like, dude, it's the best
Speaker 3: story I've got when from my introduction to the company,
Speaker 3: because you and he goes so, it's not bad like no,
Speaker 3: to me, it's just a rough beginning. You know, it's
Speaker 3: a rough welcome, but you know it was it was
Speaker 3: you welcome in me though it was a thing that
Speaker 3: it was kind of we could be bad, but I
Speaker 3: never never new because we never never. But at the end,
Speaker 3: twenty years later, twenty five years later, those were so
Speaker 3: super cool and I just felt that genuine there was
Speaker 3: a bond, there was something that was there, and I
Speaker 3: felt welcome and I felt I actually loved by these
Speaker 3: guys that never thought they did. Yeah, the complete that
Speaker 3: right there, that energy that they gave me, that love
Speaker 3: they gave me was something I didn't expect. But it
Speaker 3: made me think, and there are people who are probably
Speaker 3: out there who just don't know them around or think
Speaker 3: that guy on Twitter is not the real guy or
Speaker 3: whatever it is. No matter how much interaction we have,
Speaker 3: whether the nois mean or not, or whether you know
Speaker 3: I don't, it's hard to tell somebody you love in
Speaker 3: the one hundred and forty words or whatever. It's when, too,
Speaker 3: you actually see them in person again. Yeah, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: from Bill After to Medusa to Jerry Brisco, all of
Speaker 3: them just showed nothing but complete love or respect for me.
Speaker 3: It was something I didn't think was there. That is there.
Speaker 3: And Shane Douglas to everybody along the way, Diva Deley
Speaker 3: was was one that was a big hugging a kiss
Speaker 3: from him every time I seen I've seemed like three
Speaker 3: times now of these shows. So to me, that's just
Speaker 3: another amazing person who I knew respect and love there
Speaker 3: who crossed the way, and to get that from him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: So I'm finding out more and more again this is
Speaker 3: my own mind working against me and these people who
Speaker 3: know me. I just thought they didn't give they didn't
Speaker 3: care about me, But they do.
Speaker 1: I told you, you have to focus your energy on
Speaker 1: the people who do love you. Yeah, and then the
Speaker 1: other ones are just acquaintances. And you can get from
Speaker 1: a passing wave and you keep walking, and you stick
Speaker 1: to the people who care about you, and you'll know
Speaker 1: who they are. Like you said, you can tell, you know,
Speaker 1: I can tell when I go to these things, yea.
Speaker 1: And for those who don't, I'm just like, hi, Marian,
Speaker 1: keep walking. But the ones that I know care about me,
Speaker 1: you know, that's where I spend all my time. There
Speaker 1: you go, you get the good energy, you know, and
Speaker 1: you're not the only one. If anybody listening has ever
Speaker 1: been a caretaker, I think we all go through that
Speaker 1: state of depression where you know, it's kind of like
Speaker 1: like I felt, as much as I loved my mom
Speaker 1: and I did a whole show about this in tears,
Speaker 1: as much as I loved my mother and I took
Speaker 1: care of her for sixteen years, we did with no help,
Speaker 1: Me and my husband and my kids, no help whatsoever.
Speaker 1: But towards the end it was kind of like we
Speaker 1: were I hate saying this, but we were prisoners in
Speaker 1: our own home because we couldn't leave, you know, we
Speaker 1: were never able to go anywhere, couldn't even go to dinner.
Speaker 1: She couldn't be left alone. We didn't have anybody help her, right,
Speaker 1: there was no help coming in. I don't have family
Speaker 1: that it's close and everybody works so they can't try
Speaker 1: out whatever. But you know, it was kind of like resentment,
Speaker 1: but then the guilt of you know, I feel like
Speaker 1: my world's falling apart. I can't take my kids out,
Speaker 1: I can't go places with my husband. I have to
Speaker 1: take care of my mother. But I did it because
Speaker 1: I loved her. Same thing with you. You loved your mother,
Speaker 1: But where were you supposed to be?
Speaker 3: I always always thought about them as many times as
Speaker 3: a kid that she had to wipe my butt. I
Speaker 3: said my diaper, I had to do that.
Speaker 1: All white viewers now that full circle, it's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the same. That's the same thing I told her,
Speaker 3: And she made a scallo at me, and don't you
Speaker 3: dare wipe my butt? I'm like, we ain't got much
Speaker 3: of a choice, mom, They got much of joration and
Speaker 3: she hated it, but I you know, when I know
Speaker 3: she hated it, I hated having to do it. But
Speaker 3: then it was still that scenario where it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: she knew it was genuine and I wasn't just because
Speaker 3: I had to do it. Yeah, she was grateful. I was.
Speaker 3: I was in my mind, I was giving back to
Speaker 3: her for something that she did for me, and it
Speaker 3: was something that I was blessed to do it. In
Speaker 3: one sense, it was a little bit tough, tough.
Speaker 1: It was the hardest experience. I will, I will get
Speaker 1: you a cook when I see you. But it was hard.
Speaker 1: It was hard for me, and I went through a depression. No,
Speaker 1: I never wanted to kill myself or it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: was just in my mind. I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you know, if what if she lives to be a
Speaker 1: hundred and I'm now sixty years old and the time
Speaker 1: goes by and I can't do Like part of me
Speaker 1: felt selfish for thinking that, but when I discussed it
Speaker 1: with other people, they were always like, no, that's that's normal.
Speaker 1: It's it's normal. You're sacrificing your whole life to take
Speaker 1: care of this person, and you're being up time with
Speaker 1: your family to you know, to Basically, she's another child.
Speaker 1: She became her child, and she was a baby all
Speaker 1: over again.
Speaker 3: Right. I never had kids, so in one sense, mom
Speaker 3: became my kid. I mean you do it that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like taking care of a child, and I listen,
Speaker 1: I would do it all over again and her because
Speaker 1: I loved her so much, but it drained me to
Speaker 1: the point where I was walking around depressed because you know,
Speaker 1: it's tough.
Speaker 3: It's hard, Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: So I know exactly part of what you were going through.
Speaker 1: It didn't get to that next level. But you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like she knew that I loved her, and
Speaker 1: your mother knew that you loved her. And you know,
Speaker 1: we're good people, and I have to get that in
Speaker 1: my head. You know a lot of people wouldn't do
Speaker 1: this for them. They throw them in a home or
Speaker 1: they you know whatever. We love our parents, we take
Speaker 1: care of them, so admirable for you to even do that,
Speaker 1: you're a good person. You need to realize how good
Speaker 1: of a person that you are and that people do
Speaker 1: genuinely love you. And that's what I was trying to
Speaker 1: reiterate to you on the telephone.
Speaker 3: Yeah you did. You got it into my mind thinking.
Speaker 3: I mean, every conversation had with everyone that is a
Speaker 3: genuine friend of mine has reshaped my thinking about whether
Speaker 3: I'm loved, whether I'm just accepted, or whether I'm just acknowledged.
Speaker 1: Because you kept saying to me, I need to get there,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, Scottie, You're there, No, I need to
Speaker 1: get there. And I was like, we think you're there
Speaker 1: because we love you, so you're there. You need to
Speaker 1: realize you're there, right.
Speaker 3: That's still yeah, that's still the point every time I
Speaker 3: keep saying, I still don't need to because when the stings,
Speaker 3: you know, final match came up and me and Dallas
Speaker 3: throwed up together. We had a nice five hour ten
Speaker 3: hour round trip window of conversation time and it was
Speaker 3: gonna be fun travel with Dallas one on one and
Speaker 3: have a deep conversation. And we did and hit me
Speaker 3: every little point from dating here to this situation there,
Speaker 3: to where I want to live and that, you know,
Speaker 3: in the future, because I always want to go back
Speaker 3: to the beach and they want me. They're like, well, dude,
Speaker 3: you need to stay here for a little long longer.
Speaker 3: You know, you were at the point where you wanted
Speaker 3: to kill yourself and but you know you need to
Speaker 3: be here to keep growing and stuff like that, to
Speaker 3: keep working here. Maybe you can find some avenues can
Speaker 3: where you can you know, work this, work that. And
Speaker 3: I said, well, and before that was can even get
Speaker 3: to certain points, I said, I said, Dode, so more,
Speaker 3: most important thing about any of this right now, I
Speaker 3: still got to keep working on me. Yeah, I still
Speaker 3: got to strengthen me. There are points in my own
Speaker 3: mind that I know I got to strengthen. There are
Speaker 3: points that I find I gotta find, you know, what's
Speaker 3: going to meet the foundation I built and still need
Speaker 3: to build on me to those points, to that when
Speaker 3: the right person comes along again, I'll be ready for
Speaker 3: that person. They don't have to struggle to meet neet me.
Speaker 3: You know that we're bumping heads on the way, which
Speaker 3: is good still, but I still need need to be
Speaker 3: more working on me right now because yeah, still Atlanta,
Speaker 3: you're still there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: Still around the right people, still around that, you know,
Speaker 3: the whole right crew is still around me, still encouraging me.
Speaker 3: Still everything uh as as and growing on and stuff
Speaker 3: like that. But that was when I told that him
Speaker 3: in the car ride. He goes, that's the best thing
Speaker 3: I heard you say right now because instead of running
Speaker 3: to a relationship, or instead of running to this or
Speaker 3: running to that, you know, you still are focusing on you,
Speaker 3: which means uh, the because none of us expected you
Speaker 3: to be you're at in this short amount of time.
Speaker 3: You blew the dwarves away. You got your mouth thinking
Speaker 3: you blew the doors away on that. How good you
Speaker 3: look now?
Speaker 1: So every beard off that was keep done.
Speaker 3: The beard was a security blanket for sure. You know
Speaker 3: it was the best way. And I don't know, I
Speaker 3: look at a lot of pictures, even back in I
Speaker 3: think it's twenty twelve or twenty thirteen, with the last
Speaker 3: big events that they with Marcus, I had a big
Speaker 3: beard because I just want to chance with a beard out.
Speaker 3: I just like the beard. I just do. Actually had
Speaker 3: a little bit of stumble going on before this. I went.
Speaker 3: I started thinking, the last time I was on your show,
Speaker 3: I had a beard going. So I'm gonna go ahead
Speaker 3: and take five minutes before I was right right before you.
Speaker 3: I shaved. I shaved the beard down. So if they
Speaker 3: do look back in the in your in your in
Speaker 3: your past stuff and I see the old man there
Speaker 3: with the beard and stuff like that, this time a
Speaker 3: whole other one. A year later. I'm clean even, great, smile, great,
Speaker 3: and you know, and tanned as orn Anderson would always
Speaker 3: say that looks better tanned you got.
Speaker 1: Because I'm well as a ghost. So that's you got
Speaker 1: me with the tanning. But you look great. You look great.
Speaker 1: I couldn't be more proud of you. Honestly, you're doing
Speaker 1: a hell of a job. Chad, do you have anything
Speaker 1: you want to ask them?
Speaker 2: It's just incredible to watch. I mean I watched the
Speaker 2: whole thing the second that came out when it hit online,
Speaker 2: and it just you know, I've followed you for years
Speaker 2: because I interviewed you back in twenty fifteen, you know,
Speaker 2: like a two hour, thirty minute epic covering your start
Speaker 2: to your finish, and just you've always been so giving
Speaker 2: to everybody. You know, you give great answers, you give
Speaker 2: great details, and it's you know, you've always been so
Speaker 2: open about your struggles, and you've always been so caring
Speaker 2: to fans when they've reached out to you and said
Speaker 2: stuff online. So I've just always appreciated seeing you, know
Speaker 2: you you've been so cool with everybody, and it's just
Speaker 2: it's so nice to see how you've recovered here. So
Speaker 2: my head off to you, and I alwaysreciate coming on
Speaker 2: the show Man.
Speaker 3: One of the funny things that put the funny thought pot. No, Mom,
Speaker 3: you said you give great answers. You know, you get
Speaker 3: great detail and stuff, and like going well Chris Jericho
Speaker 3: would tell will tell you that, he'd ask me what
Speaker 3: time it is, and I tell him how to go
Speaker 3: to watch and never never know, never get to the
Speaker 3: time of oh, by the way, it's you know, four
Speaker 3: thirty or whatever. You know, my stories until unless you
Speaker 3: got me a little bit temple to ramble as Riggs.
Speaker 2: No, it's great, but I'll.
Speaker 3: Make the place says it's a great story. But I
Speaker 3: never get to the point.
Speaker 2: How about this? So when you got to the crib
Speaker 2: right and they showed you, you know what they have
Speaker 2: at the operation where you like completely floored with the
Speaker 2: whole production and how they have this whole like mecca
Speaker 2: of filming and all these great you know, well filming,
Speaker 2: uh you know processes.
Speaker 3: Now, as in that point, see the stuff we did
Speaker 3: at the at the crib, there wasn't anything that was
Speaker 3: actually being filmed on a daily basis or something like
Speaker 3: that like them before with Jake and Scott at Hall
Speaker 3: and marcuson better beating those guys. When I moved in,
Speaker 3: it was just being Marcus Marcus's girlfriend Stacy, and that
Speaker 3: was pretty much it. I was up in one corner
Speaker 3: of the house Margaut Stacy the other corner of the
Speaker 3: house and we meet to go work out. But we
Speaker 3: all kind of lived our separate lives a little bit,
Speaker 3: so there wasn't a production stuff through them that was
Speaker 3: going on. We were just living there. And that was
Speaker 3: actually the best environment for me, because all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: I have a camera maybe in my face or this
Speaker 3: going on or that going on, or that would have
Speaker 3: probably would have maybe go okay, cool, at like three
Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, pack my car and disappear, because
Speaker 3: that would probably not have been the thing that would
Speaker 3: not have been the thing to hit me where I
Speaker 3: was at at that time, to be part of a
Speaker 3: TV show, okay, And so we we we took something
Speaker 3: like that. That one that before picture from March of
Speaker 3: twenty three. That was one picture, one take before I
Speaker 3: started working out. It was like when I first got
Speaker 3: to the crib, it was like, hey, I was tink
Speaker 3: it before picture boom And Dallas's first thing to say
Speaker 3: is what makes the best after picture? A really shitty
Speaker 3: before picture? And I had a really shitty before picture.
Speaker 3: Believe me. I look at it and go, God, I
Speaker 3: hate to show that thing, but look at you now,
Speaker 3: Yeah the thing is now. I go look we there,
Speaker 3: here's six months and then there's nine months. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: Dallas for the longest time wouldn't let me or anybody
Speaker 3: else show that before picture because he wanted it for
Speaker 3: the big reveal at the end of it. And the
Speaker 3: funny thing is the guys who worked out of the
Speaker 3: gym with there's a couple of guys. We got to
Speaker 3: know each other pretty quick. When they throw me Marcus,
Speaker 3: they knew who we kind of worked for the America
Speaker 3: Mail to start to ask us questions stuff. Uh, and
Speaker 3: they I was always wearing like a long sleeve that
Speaker 3: was Cowboys T shirt. Basically everything I had on was
Speaker 3: always long sleeve and sent for my shorts. I still
Speaker 3: have my calves. My dad blessed me with good calves.
Speaker 3: Kept I always showed the calves off, so I had
Speaker 3: the calves going for me. But I always kept everything
Speaker 3: covered and like most bodybuilders were peaking for a contest,
Speaker 3: almost always covered. And I started, you know, just working
Speaker 3: out that way. As my body started to shape shape, reshape,
Speaker 3: everything started moving directions, everything started getting back to how
Speaker 3: I looked before. Some of the guys started looking at
Speaker 3: on going what are you hiding on that thing? You know.
Speaker 3: Also I started tanning a little bit too, started getting
Speaker 3: a little color, and then we took the I had
Speaker 3: the big beard going long, strutty haired at Grizzly Adams
Speaker 3: a long time ago. And one of the guys that
Speaker 3: we were close to, uh his name is Josh Naire.
Speaker 3: Actually there who does the a W interviews backstage. It's
Speaker 3: his daughter and but uh, but Josh had a couple
Speaker 3: of friends that would that that came in to do
Speaker 3: my face, turn my beard up and do my hair
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. So we did that, and that's
Speaker 3: where that first photo with me with the beard the
Speaker 3: hair going up that way, that first photo, but was
Speaker 3: after six months, and then the nine month later came
Speaker 3: also and Dallas was like, uh, we went to the
Speaker 3: same thing. He was showing the picture because here's Scotty
Speaker 3: a year ago. Here he is six months and said,
Speaker 3: I want to show him the nine month He goes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: you got that, don't you. So I started showing that. That
Speaker 3: was our gimmick we had going me and Dallas, here's
Speaker 3: that that that, here's this now it was only three
Speaker 3: weeks ago. That's like, bro, give me that, give me
Speaker 3: that picture. So I went from this to Dallas to
Speaker 3: go boom boom boom because he wanted to do the dramatic.
Speaker 3: You know, here's what did two Eyes do for him,
Speaker 3: the diet and Steve Margus everything boom boom boom, boom boom.
Speaker 3: And you know, Dallas is like, dude, we've had some
Speaker 3: transformations on the way because but you've been the fastest,
Speaker 3: the best one I've ever had, and you've been the
Speaker 3: most eloquent one to be able to show everybody. That's
Speaker 3: the reason they want me to stay around is because
Speaker 3: I can be that person for them right now that
Speaker 3: is live and breathing right here in front of them,
Speaker 3: that they can just boom at any point in time,
Speaker 3: grab me and show me off in a sense, which
Speaker 3: for what they gave me from when I came in.
Speaker 3: Use me, abuse me, take advantage of me anything you want,
Speaker 3: because if we can make because we can use this
Speaker 3: to make somebody else better. Now do it.
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely, let me hold on. You need to do
Speaker 1: me one favor. Next time you talk to Dallas, which
Speaker 1: is probably gonna be later, tell him I said thank
Speaker 1: you for saving my friend.
Speaker 3: Please will do that. Please do go ahead.
Speaker 2: My comment makes literally no like merit now it means nothing.
Speaker 2: I was just saying, when you grow back the beard,
Speaker 2: it's got to be the little dotty, scruff American man. No,
Speaker 2: I think he looks great without it, but if he did,
Speaker 2: it's got to be the American male, little five o'clock shadow.
Speaker 3: Well, the only problem with the five o'clock shadow now
Speaker 3: is it's all white. Yeah, well you know, you know,
Speaker 3: it's all gray white. There's old salt and pepper, but
Speaker 3: there's no salt and pepper anymore. So it looks so
Speaker 3: even though even Steve and Marcus will say, dude, shave
Speaker 3: that off because it just makes you look old, you look.
Speaker 1: Younger, you look much younger without younger.
Speaker 3: But I do, miss. I was telling Steve last night
Speaker 3: before we're working out, like, dude, looking at where we're going,
Speaker 3: and we did les. I'm looking, man, I missed my beard.
Speaker 1: Do you a little bit of the what is that called?
Speaker 3: Just from oh that? No, like a little bit of dark?
Speaker 3: And see, I don't want to die my hair either.
Speaker 3: You know, I've embraced my gray. I don't want to die.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do with that. You're fine the
Speaker 1: way you are.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: You you are amazing You're an amazing person. Your story
Speaker 1: is just it's it's the perfect ending. This is the
Speaker 1: perfect ending. You're doing great. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 1: I every day is a blessing and that's what you
Speaker 1: have to tell yourself. Yeah, definitely, And don't look ahead,
Speaker 1: you know, a month from now, a year from now.
Speaker 1: Just take it for every day one.
Speaker 3: Is that just just you know? And I'm kind of
Speaker 3: worst sometimes about Uh. I don't know if the worst
Speaker 3: I mean might not be the right word, but I
Speaker 3: always call myself the old man in the group. As
Speaker 3: I am, I'm other than Dallas. I'm fifty seven to
Speaker 3: s fifty seven, Like, yeah, I've been a grumpy rigs
Speaker 3: you know. Then, and I saw the thing that Bruce
Speaker 3: Lee says, Uh, don't even use words like that about
Speaker 3: yourself in a joking way, because you're buying. Your body
Speaker 3: doesn't know your words are joking. That's why it's called
Speaker 3: spelling words. You spell words because the cat your words
Speaker 3: cast spells. So if you say something negative, even in
Speaker 3: a funny way about yourself that your body doesn't know,
Speaker 3: you're teasing that your body doesn't know you're joking. It
Speaker 3: uses that those words negatively as your energy. So that
Speaker 3: that's something I learned about going. Man, I'm going to
Speaker 3: stop busting home chops about being the old guy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: stop breaking your exactly. But I do it for entertainment. Facts.
Speaker 3: But but but my body doesn't try to entertain everybody.
Speaker 3: My body is saying, hey, you are old. You gotta
Speaker 3: know I'm not old.
Speaker 1: We're only as old as we feel. I feel like exactly,
Speaker 1: so you know, I guess I'm one hundred years old.
Speaker 3: But or if if you're a hundred, brandy, you're awesome
Speaker 3: looking hundred thank you.
Speaker 1: Where where can people see you next? What are we doing.
Speaker 3: Right now? I don't have anything really coming up at
Speaker 3: the moment, Okay, but you can always follow me on
Speaker 3: real Scottie Riggs on Twitter, Real Scottie Riggs on Instagram.
Speaker 3: I'm getting a lot more active on Instagram than I
Speaker 3: ever have been. I never took pictures until just now recently.
Speaker 3: But hope, we've got we've got We've got a couple
Speaker 3: of things that are coming into the mix. That's Uh,
Speaker 3: the DPY stories came out on Margarets myself starts to
Speaker 3: have the ring and everything else. Uh, so we're getting
Speaker 3: some connections, some calls about stuff. But to book me
Speaker 3: h for any conventions, any other podcasts, autograph signs or whatever.
Speaker 3: You can go to book Scottieeridgs at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3: Cant that me through there, or you can even go
Speaker 3: to Marcus Buff Bagwell at gmail dot com to book
Speaker 3: the American Mails Together. Perfect. There's two ways you can
Speaker 3: get either one of us that since we get a
Speaker 3: lot more calls about doing the American Males thing, which
Speaker 3: is really cool because we can also go as Buff
Speaker 3: and Scottie and still do our own things separately, so
Speaker 3: and be there together.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: It's like kind of you and Shane when you can
Speaker 3: do the your three thing with it with these three
Speaker 3: or these three you see one of those, one of
Speaker 3: y'all have that thing going together. But yeah, there you go.
Speaker 3: But but but y'all can do Shane or yourself and
Speaker 3: you and yourself Frannie so and it works great, y'all.
Speaker 3: You're you're working ten together and we we still do
Speaker 3: the same thing here.
Speaker 1: Perfect well do I again. I'm thrilled. I'm so happy
Speaker 1: and grateful that you're still with us and that you're
Speaker 1: thriving and you look incredible, and just keep being positive.
Speaker 3: There's a light more of these guys. Was the last
Speaker 3: time we did this podcast together.
Speaker 1: There I like a whole different aura, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. And it's a pot and and my heart's happy,
Speaker 1: and that's all I can say. So you know I'm
Speaker 1: going to check up on you from time to time
Speaker 1: because I told you that, and you know you're just
Speaker 1: gonna have to accept that.
Speaker 3: But I do, I do, you do.
Speaker 1: But if you need me, I am a phone call. Awafe.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Been a pleasure chat with you guys.
Speaker 3: Thanks for listening again all my life. I'm so much
Speaker 3: better now in a sense that we're gonna see here
Speaker 3: and not just talk about random wrestling things about life stuff.
Speaker 3: We talk about some life stuff that hopefully anybody else
Speaker 3: who loses can maybe get a better just lease on life,
Speaker 3: better breath in life that you know, if I can
Speaker 3: use that way to really encourage somebody to find that,
Speaker 3: you know, to reach out to somebody and find out
Speaker 3: there's a grace that's better for them, because that was
Speaker 3: something I didn't realize there was. There are people who
Speaker 3: do love me, There are people who do gave me
Speaker 3: grace and gave me hope. You know, Stinger. Every time
Speaker 3: I talked to him, he was always you know, we
Speaker 3: get quiet a man, and he'd be praying for me,
Speaker 3: and he'd always say, I always getta lie from him
Speaker 3: a Bible verse somewhere where he would always be praying
Speaker 3: for me. And when I saw him and this thing,
Speaker 3: when I first walked in with Dallas, Sting and his
Speaker 3: sons were by ringside, which might be fifty yards away
Speaker 3: from where I walked out by the entrance. Then I
Speaker 3: was going to try to work my way to him,
Speaker 3: but then he started walk up the ramps, so we're
Speaker 3: going away from me to her this way. Be turned around,
Speaker 3: walked up to him. I said, Stinger, hold on moving parts, foul.
Speaker 3: But other than that was kind of going on because
Speaker 3: he was like, it might be a little too active,
Speaker 3: but whole on moving parts for you and Marcus to
Speaker 3: come up, parents and everything else. Marcus couldn't come goose
Speaker 3: foot surgery, but I came up. And the funny thing
Speaker 3: was to even come up to the thing because we
Speaker 3: were still headitant about going to it until Sunday Duck
Speaker 3: called up, sent me a text and said, hey, we
Speaker 3: heard you. We know you're coming up. We're gonna get
Speaker 3: your hotel room, take care of this, take care of that.
Speaker 3: So a w instead of just coming, gave me the
Speaker 3: invite awesome very next day, which was a complete blessing.
Speaker 3: So to finish this thing story, will I'll come, went, hey,
Speaker 3: I want your parts, foul, don't go look and he
Speaker 3: looked over for me. He just swings over it and
Speaker 3: before you get anything else, he goes, dude, I was
Speaker 3: still captivated by your story, by you and Marcus, by
Speaker 3: everything else. I love it. I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you're here. I'm going to give you a
Speaker 3: hug in a minute. He finished this real quick, get
Speaker 3: up here, but he would not let me see anything else,
Speaker 3: and he just went I was captivated by y'all story
Speaker 3: because by the second half of your thing, he goes
Speaker 3: it just I could not stop watching. It's good. The
Speaker 3: first part of your Marcus is like twenty four minutes.
Speaker 3: My other part, individually, my teeth and another part of
Speaker 3: my adventure was about another eighteen nineteen minutes. So he
Speaker 3: sat back and watched both back to back. That's a
Speaker 3: forty five minut the window of time that he devoted
Speaker 3: to it. He was due. I'm so proud of you.
Speaker 3: Like you said, I brought tears my eyes.
Speaker 1: Oh you don't do it. Don't make me cry again.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing it, Scott.
Speaker 3: We'll do it. We'll do it.
Speaker 1: I cried at the table, I cried after the phone call.
Speaker 1: Now I have tears in my eyes again. But it's
Speaker 1: all love. It's all.
Speaker 3: It's all. It's all. It's a good cry. It's a
Speaker 3: partive energy and good tears. Now. Yeah, so yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: you see rustlers cry. You know, Cody cried on TV.
Speaker 3: We got the Cody criers out there.
Speaker 1: This isn't this isn't supposed to happen again. I'm just
Speaker 1: so proud of you. So if you need me, but
Speaker 1: know that I love you.
Speaker 3: Please, love you too, both of you. Thank you so
Speaker 3: much for having me, and go.
Speaker 1: Thank Dallas for me, because I will. He saved the
Speaker 1: friends and I'm eternally grateful for that.
Speaker 3: So we will always do that.
Speaker 1: All right, Doc, I will see you soon, I hope.
Speaker 3: Chad, Thank you, brother, Appreciate you here, Scottie, all the
Speaker 3: best talk soon, Yes, love y'all. I love you. Bye.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, man, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: I know he came to the table. I put up
Speaker 1: a picture of us, and uh, I cried at the table,
Speaker 1: and I cried during our phone call and when I
Speaker 1: hung up, because man, it's it's it's it's a good story.
Speaker 2: Though unbelievable, it's a good story and it's true.
Speaker 1: I do think Dallas for saving his life, Marcus and Dallas.
Speaker 1: You know, if Marcus didn't call him God forbid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, when we had him on the
Speaker 2: first time, you know, I guess I love every time.
Speaker 2: You know, when I interviewed him years ago, was amazing,
Speaker 2: great stories, amazing details, the whole night yards just like
Speaker 2: what I said when he was on. And then when
Speaker 2: we had him on, you guys are shooting the breeze
Speaker 2: and telling old stories and blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: You know, it was great and it was fun, but
Speaker 2: then you read the stuff he was putting online and
Speaker 2: it was just feeling. I would feel so sad because
Speaker 2: it just you could feel some of the pain. But
Speaker 2: then he would be encouraging other people through his pain. Right,
Speaker 2: you could see he was hurting, but he would be
Speaker 2: telling other people, get help, I'm here for you, you know,
Speaker 2: and it'd be like, man, like, he's such a good soul,
Speaker 2: but you can feel he's hurting. So then when all
Speaker 2: that stuff started to come out, the outpouring of love
Speaker 2: from the wrestling community, which was always there, was just
Speaker 2: out of this world. And I'm just I'm so glad
Speaker 2: to see all that. And that guy that was just
Speaker 2: on here looks like a million dollars and he looks awesome.
Speaker 1: He looks so it's like you suffer in silence, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, to anyone, And I know, like you know,
Speaker 1: being you saw me go through it. Being a caregiver
Speaker 1: that is a huge responsibility and it does, you know,
Speaker 1: it takes its toll on you. And then when you
Speaker 1: lose the one you love, that's awful too, and then
Speaker 1: you have to bounce back. And you know, at least
Speaker 1: I have a support group here, but Scotty was all
Speaker 1: alone and it was hard for him. So anytime I
Speaker 1: would talk to him, he would never let on to
Speaker 1: me that he was as bad as he was, and
Speaker 1: I had no clue. And then when I saw him,
Speaker 1: he just everything just came out and oh my god,
Speaker 1: it just touched me. You know, I don't want to
Speaker 1: see any of my friends struggle. Yeah, So a sad story,
Speaker 1: but a happy ending, thank God. And he's doing great
Speaker 1: and he looks great. And if you're not following them,
Speaker 1: go follow him because.
Speaker 2: He's well, oh yeah, story is not over.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just beginning. Now. He has a newly
Speaker 1: saw life, which I love. So that's great.
Speaker 3: Do I have to do this again?
Speaker 1: I should make that his ringtone when he calls me?
Speaker 1: Do people still do that with the film? Can you
Speaker 1: customize people?
Speaker 2: You probably can?
Speaker 1: But it's I don't know how. It's a little corn
Speaker 1: Oh it's funny though.
Speaker 2: And it's all about it's all about the beginning.
Speaker 1: It would pop him if I did it, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: He heard it, did I tell you? They played it
Speaker 2: on the bus, the party bus from my bachelor party.
Speaker 1: They they played American Males? Were they playing all the
Speaker 1: entrance music?
Speaker 2: Not all of them, but that one was played just
Speaker 2: for the goof part of the American Males being like
Speaker 2: the corny funny you know?
Speaker 1: Did they play perfect Strangers?
Speaker 2: I think they probably did, because that was on every
Speaker 2: CD that I made.
Speaker 1: Do you know that when we went to the dive
Speaker 1: bar the other weekend with Widow that I talked about
Speaker 1: in the other interview or was it this interview.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, it was this.
Speaker 1: It was this interview. The guys that were there were
Speaker 1: two promoters with us that brought Guido in. They went
Speaker 1: to the jukebox and they played Everybody's Entrance over and
Speaker 1: over again, and I was like, dude, really, like, how
Speaker 1: many times do we have to hear this song? Oh
Speaker 1: my god?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I think Perfect Strangers on every CD that I made
Speaker 2: for my car between two thousand and one and about
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine, just about everyone.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, great interview. Great guy, what do you
Speaker 1: got going on?
Speaker 2: Well, before I got what's going on? You got something
Speaker 2: big going on, don't you.
Speaker 1: It's coming up this weekend this Friday, Saturday, Sunday. I
Speaker 1: will be appearing all three days April fifth, sixth, and
Speaker 1: seventh at Wrestle Common and Masters of Ring Entertainment and
Speaker 1: More Wrestling. You can go to More Wrestling dot com
Speaker 1: for more info. They're bringing in in Shane and I,
Speaker 1: so we'll be there all three days, and also that
Speaker 1: Friday from four to seven pm, we'll be at the
Speaker 1: block party for Icons of Wrestling over at the ECW Arena.
Speaker 1: I think it's called the two thousand Arena now or
Speaker 1: something or.
Speaker 2: Twenty one hundred arena, twenty three, twenty three hundred, you're
Speaker 2: getting close. One May three hundred three.
Speaker 1: Is that the address? Yes, oh, okay, twenty three hundred Arena.
Speaker 1: I'll be there from four to seven signing autographs and
Speaker 1: then I'm on the Big Shoe that evening, the Big Shoe,
Speaker 1: the Big Shoe. So if you're in the area, which
Speaker 1: a lot of people are flying in from all over
Speaker 1: for Wrestle Coan, come and see Shane and I and
Speaker 1: it'll be a good time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, really looking forward to it. They're flying in from
Speaker 2: countries we never even heard of to get to wrestle kan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they really do. It's it's it's the big one.
Speaker 1: So and one of my outfits is so awesome and
Speaker 1: so utterly ridiculous at the same time, and I can't
Speaker 1: wait to wear it.
Speaker 2: Do you have c h A D be dazzled on it?
Speaker 1: And no, no, it's be dazzled but not with Chad,
Speaker 1: damn it. It's so ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I gotta get one of those Bobby the brain heen
Speaker 2: and jackets.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was wearing it because I you know,
Speaker 1: I've been kind of like wearing like normal clothes to these,
Speaker 1: but you know, Russell CON's a big deal. So I
Speaker 1: went and I bought like gimmicky outfit. Where the hell
Speaker 1: do I think I'm going? Like if I in uh
Speaker 1: one of the what were they at music City? Uh
Speaker 1: Radio City music called the Rockets or something with these
Speaker 1: cothers in my hair.
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Speaker 1: still have time for that?
Speaker 2: Know what's over?
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