WEBVTT - WCW's Scotty Riggs second chance at life 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:31.680 Hello everyone. This is the Queen of the stream, Francine, 0:00:32.400 --> 0:00:35.760 and you are listening to Eyes up Here with Francine 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:39.760 on the iHeart Radio Network or wherever you get your podcasts. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:44.160 As always, I am joined by the Chadster Dad. 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:49.240 What is up up? The gesture of jeering has returned 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:52.680 for another round of Eyes up Here and wishing you 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:54.240 a happy belated Easter. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.640 Oh thank you, hoppy Eastern to you. I don't even 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:58.320 know what we were in. 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:00.840 I hope you found it. I hope all you put 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:02.160 all your eggs in one desk. 0:01:02.400 --> 0:01:04.840 I always do, don't I? And I'm like, what the 0:01:04.880 --> 0:01:08.679 hell did I just do? Oh my god? Did you 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:09.440 have a good one? 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:11.319 A great one? Still? 0:01:11.560 --> 0:01:13.480 Still no chocolate? 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:18.720 No, no chocolate anything? Oh my god. Oh my friend 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.240 Jean Douglas is calling me right now. 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.800 Oh live call. 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:25.560 No chocol No, I'm not going to take it. No chocolate, 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.200 but anything else did you get? Did you partake in 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.600 some peeps or no? 0:01:30.720 --> 0:01:33.640 I hate peeps. Peeps in me not on the same page. 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:35.560 I love jelly beans, love the jelly beans. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:40.080 Okay, well you know I try to stay away, but 0:01:40.120 --> 0:01:43.759 I just can't. I got the kids. One of those 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:48.680 big comes with fifty pieces from Amazon. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:50.720 You ever see those, I've seen them. 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:55.960 Yes, I got the fifty pieceer. I got chocolate covered marshmallows. 0:01:56.960 --> 0:01:59.880 I got some sugar free gum for them. We're not 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.760 big on candy. I guarantee you half of this stuff 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.559 will be thrown away by you know, a week from now. 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.040 But it's I said to my daughter, do I still 0:02:08.080 --> 0:02:09.960 have to do the Easter thing? Since you know we 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.560 kind of know it's not a thing. She goes, yeah, 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:13.440 we still want stuff? 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:15.800 What it's not. 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.600 I never told my son, but I did tell my daughter. 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:21.200 You know, we went through this a long time ago. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:21.760 My daughter. 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:26.200 My son still believes everything. He's twelve. I'm like, oh, 0:02:26.280 --> 0:02:28.920 come on, see, there's no one this stewed him off. 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:31.919 That's my man right there. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:36.200 So who's going to stew him off? I'm gonna send 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:38.040 our guests the link. 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:40.400 By the way, were you gonna say the gimmick? 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:41.960 The gimmick? 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:43.200 I'm sending the gimmick gimmick? 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.440 I was one of our videos we just posted about 0:02:46.880 --> 0:02:48.720 ways to tell you're a pro wrestler, and one of 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:50.840 them was you call everything the gimmick. 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:53.359 Yeah it is. 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:58.240 It's always a gimmick. Okay, so I just sent the link. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.080 This is a two timer. 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:08.919 Yes, yes, taking his return pumped love it, my favorites 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.320 now he's great guests, then great guests now. 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:12.840 I hope. 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.600 So he's got a lot to talk about this he does, 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:19.919 he's making the rounds, he's he's he's a hawk modity 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:26.080 right now and I'm hoping he clicks the links. 0:03:26.560 --> 0:03:30.240 Here's wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Okay, here. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:34.680 We go, are you right? Hold on? One of my 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:40.320 favorite people in the world, one half of the w 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:56.400 c W tag team, the American Males. It's Scotty Ragg. Listen, listen, yes, everybody, yeah. 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:58.840 There is. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:00.560 I love it. 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.839 You know, it's crazy that always sounds. I would crack 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.160 up and think, how many people are actually watching your podcast? 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:10.240 Are going? You know? 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:16.160 Yesterday I watched the buff Bagwell Dark Side of the Ring, 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:19.599 right and they played the American meals and everybody was 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.640 dancing here. It was a cute moment. 0:04:23.520 --> 0:04:24.680 Yeah, that was one of the few. 0:04:25.200 --> 0:04:27.440 My friend, how are you doing well? 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:28.080 How are you kiddo? 0:04:28.360 --> 0:04:30.520 I'm doing fabulous. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.760 Sweet sweet? How are you young man doing your coffee? 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.119 Doing excellent? Scotty good to see you again. 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:37.520 Very good, very good. 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.120 I had the pleasure of seeing you a couple of 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.640 weeks ago in Ohio. 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:49.320 Yes, yes, that was way way cool. I got just 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:50.840 to see a lot of people haven't seen in a 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:55.160 long time, and it was truly just it was a blessing. 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:56.640 It was kind of like a conversation we had for 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:58.120 like an hour afterwards. 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:05.080 So we so everybody's telling everybody, let's go out, let's 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.960 do stuff, right, So yeah, let's go out. We're gonna 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.520 go out. We're gonna I don't now, go to dinner, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:14.480 go drink, have a drink. Whatever. So I ended up 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:19.400 actually going out to this dive bar earlier, right after 0:05:19.480 --> 0:05:22.919 the well right, well right, it was right after the signing. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.400 We had left and Guido called me and he said, 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.719 we're at I don't even know the place, Come meet 0:05:29.839 --> 0:05:32.520 us and they have food. So we wanted to eat, right, 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.960 So all of us go me Sandman Shane News like, 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:40.640 there's promoters like Guido's sitting there and we walk in 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:42.640 and it is a dive mall. 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:47.120 Here's the you and the easy to be gang do 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:50.160 that the American Males Vault team. We went to Steaky Shake. 0:05:51.160 --> 0:05:54.400 I got about listen. 0:05:54.520 --> 0:05:57.560 I like steak and shake, but Guido said, this is 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.200 a fun bar, come come hang out. So I did. 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:02.479 So I went. I had a couple of cocktails, I 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:06.159 had a meal, and we just we stayed for about 0:06:06.160 --> 0:06:10.360 two hours and then it was seven o'clock. I was like, 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:12.040 it feels like it's midnight. 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.720 So the funny part. 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:17.400 Is you made the same mistake as Shane Douglas did. 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.719 I was staying at a quality inn and next store 0:06:22.520 --> 0:06:28.760 was an hotel called the Christopher something or other whatever. 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:35.040 It was right in the Christopher. That's what I was doing. 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.960 So earlier in the day, the night before. Actually, Shane says, 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:43.080 I'm right next door to you. I'm gonna send Ned 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.120 over with the car. We're five minutes away. You're gonna 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.000 come and hang out. Well, I'm standing in the lobby 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.960 and all these weird people are walking in and out 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.719 and there's no Ned, and I'm like, where where are 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.280 these people? And I'm looking at so Shane calls me 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.640 and he says, go in the lobby. Do you see 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.440 a ball that says blah blah blah? And I go no, 0:07:03.000 --> 0:07:06.200 and he goes, yeah, I was there earlier. It says 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:08.640 this name, and he goes, is there a door to 0:07:08.640 --> 0:07:11.000 your right? I go, no, there's no door. He goes, 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.560 where the hell are you? You guys were at another 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:19.000 Christopher thing fifteen miles away from me. It was the 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.720 wrong hotel. They had it following me next to them, 0:07:21.880 --> 0:07:25.239 but I wasn't there. So Sianni calls me the next 0:07:25.360 --> 0:07:28.800 night and says, I'm coming over, and I go, you 0:07:28.920 --> 0:07:34.000 can't because you're fifteen miles. So you and I ended 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.640 up on the phone for about an hour and fifteen minutes, yeah, talking, 0:07:38.120 --> 0:07:41.520 which was loco. Yeah, but I wish we could have 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.480 saw each other, but you were just too far away. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:47.120 And again I don't know where I was. I was 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:50.360 in one town and they were in another town. So 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:51.360 we got screwed up. 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.960 But it was crazy. It worked, It worked out well 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:55.560 that we still have a nice combo with you. What 0:07:55.600 --> 0:07:56.840 we needed we did. 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:58.400 But I didn't want you to think it was I 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.400 was trying to k fab you because I was literally 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:04.200 fifteen miles in the other direction at this quality end. 0:08:04.320 --> 0:08:05.480 So that's what happened. 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.400 It's all good, It is all good. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:12.160 But let me just say something. You look fantastic like 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:16.320 you You look healthy, right, yes, very much. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:16.400 So. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:21.600 I think your mind is clear very much SOO okay, 0:08:21.880 --> 0:08:30.680 so going back, I watched ddp's little film that he puts. Yeah, 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.760 I retweeted that because I was just like, this is 0:08:32.800 --> 0:08:35.920 so powerful, you know, I want to help spread the word. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:39.400 I want everybody to see it. Can we go back? 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:40.319 I know it. 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.200 I don't want it to be painful or anything. And 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.160 I know you probably talked about it to death, but 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:49.040 I think my listeners would like to hear about your 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:54.440 journey right take us back, because last night when I 0:08:54.480 --> 0:09:00.240 was watching The Dark Side, Mark had said, you know, 0:09:00.400 --> 0:09:02.000 he picked up the phone and he called you and 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:08.520 he wasn't aware of your situation. Correct, She is Marcus 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:14.280 the one that actually started this journey for you to 0:09:14.880 --> 0:09:18.480 you know, kind of like come back and to. 0:09:19.640 --> 0:09:22.040 Give a little context to what's going on. I know 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:23.440 you kind of went through this a little bit with 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:29.800 your mom. My mom came ill around twenty seventeen twenty eighteen, 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.320 and then basically I became here twenty four to seven 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:38.959 caregiver right leading into COVID that whole time period there, 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:41.440 and it was a four or five year period where 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:46.440 I was pretty much emostly mentally physically just drained everything 0:09:46.480 --> 0:09:50.120 that was going in my life, financially drained everything that 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.280 was going on you could think of. There was nothing 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:56.000 left to me. I was just a hollow shell basically 0:09:56.720 --> 0:09:59.680 trying to exist, trying to make everything kind of happen 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:04.520 as best I could survive. Was that what was that 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:06.599 tatline survive you can't. 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.359 Or see if you can survive. 0:10:08.040 --> 0:10:10.360 If I if I let you? Yeah, exactly that I 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.960 was waiting for nature to finally not let me survive 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.960 anymore in one sense, because something was leading me one 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.800 way or the other, and what boiled down to it. 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:22.760 There came to a point where, uh, the family home 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.679 that I was in, I did. I had to take 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:27.640 care of my mom's house for us to to live in, 0:10:27.800 --> 0:10:30.360 basically because I couldn't move over to Hilton Head where 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:31.839 I was and I lived on the second floor of 0:10:32.440 --> 0:10:36.280 a condo and she couldn't go up downstairs for every 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:39.120 helper you think of, so went back to the house, 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.800 put handicapped wraps in, we did her bathroom, everything it 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:46.319 could be done to the fit the house for her 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.720 help and her well being, and she went up and down, 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:52.240 up and down. Great got bisically better would go go go, 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:55.880 then boom, have a downturn, then get better, get strunger again. 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.000 I always thought she would come through this on the 0:10:58.040 --> 0:11:02.040 other end, flying collars. She had a stroke and at 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.920 a two years old, that stroke. There's manners, they said 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:08.120 it is. There's nothing minor about a stroke like that. 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:12.760 So I basically came down to a point where I 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:17.800 lost a house, I got poor closed on, and I 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:21.720 was living in my car with a cat my mom 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:23.720 one of the last things. And the cat's still around, 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.160 believe or not. One of the last thing. My mom 0:11:26.200 --> 0:11:28.240 asked me, she goes, make sure you take care of 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:31.800 the cat. And this guy did not like me. When 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:33.680 I first moved back home to take care of my mom. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.240 He would not come around me. He would do nothing 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.040 with me. I mean, he hated my guts unless I 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.200 was feeding him otherwise, boom, he had nothing to dow with me. 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:43.200 Walk into a room, he'd walk out of the room. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.160 Wait, he's an Eagles fan, that's why. 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:52.920 Oh jeez, that might be it. I mean, I don't know, really, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:54.320 I don't know. 0:11:56.000 --> 0:12:02.800 Well, yeah, but the funny thing about the cat was, 0:12:02.880 --> 0:12:05.720 I mean, after my mom passed, it still took a 0:12:05.840 --> 0:12:08.040 year and a half almost for him to actually let 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:08.880 me pet him. 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.000 Because able to keep the house for about a year 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.760 or so where he finally would engage me, let me 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:16.320 scratch him, pet him, everything else. And I guess the 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:19.920 cat realized Mom's not coming back. You know, that his 0:12:20.040 --> 0:12:23.720 one thing that was his his lifeblood, his person that 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:29.360 he adopted. She adopted him, but he adopted her coming back. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.720 And I was there all the time, so he finally 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:35.080 started let me pet him. So it's me and him 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:40.080 in the car and because each other company was pretty 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:42.000 good for a little bit. And i get a text 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:48.480 from Marcus one day and I'm really trying to think 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.360 the best way to say this was just at a 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:54.280 at a downward turn where I really was about just 0:12:54.280 --> 0:13:01.679 to check out. I mean I was, even though it's 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:04.440 not the best option. I had looked at every option 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:07.400 ahead of me and going, you know, even our VD. 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:09.240 As I reached out to him, he was like, dude, 0:13:09.720 --> 0:13:11.480 go to a shelter or something, you know, maybe I 0:13:11.480 --> 0:13:13.480 can put your home term. I'm like, no, you don't 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:15.679 do that. I'm like, I have a car to sleep in, 0:13:16.280 --> 0:13:17.679 so I'm not going to take a bed up on 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:20.840 a shelter. So I'm okay, I'll make it. I'm okay, 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.319 and but I was in my mind get ready to 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:26.720 kind of, you know, just check out, and I get 0:13:26.720 --> 0:13:28.839 the call. I got a text to Marcus goes, dude, 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.040 Dark Side of the Ring might be one to interview 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:33.959 you for a show they're doing. It's coming in a 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:35.680 couple months. On the line. I pretty much him a 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.480 text back and said, I don't know if it be 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:40.560 any good for that. I'm living in my car right now, 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:45.200 so thanks anyway, And about maybe five minutes into my 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.600 phone starts ringing boom boom boom, like going, jeez, do 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.120 I answer this or not? And it's Marcus if I 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:52.880 talked to him, and he's back and forth with me 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:55.280 about he's brow beating me about coming up to Atlanta. 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.040 He's like, dude, I'm in this mansion of a house. 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:01.480 It's the dp's accountability crib with Jake and Scott Hall 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:04.720 and Butter being a lot of people stayed in the past, 0:14:04.800 --> 0:14:07.720 and he shot some shows, so it's more like it 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.080 was his house, but he turned it into a production house. 0:14:10.480 --> 0:14:10.760 Okay. 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:14.360 So Marcus was standing there by himself and he was like, dude, 0:14:14.400 --> 0:14:17.160 come up here, come up here, and I was thinking 0:14:17.160 --> 0:14:18.840 about it and like going, well, I was trying to make 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.320 every excuse in the book. I was like, uh, and 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.080 he tires in my car. I need this, I need that, 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.960 and I pretty much hang up with him. And Marcus 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.200 has Steve You, who is Dallas's Dallas pages right hand man. 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:34.680 As far as I know, everyone that has met Dallas 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:39.520 and Steve you together, asked ow Dallas. Afterwards, Hey, where 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.720 I find to Steve you? That's how good Steve you is. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:47.440 I mean, personality wise, thinking wise, he is a creative genius. 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:52.600 She's got a gift. And basically Steve on the phone 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.440 or stayed in Una Poe. But Steve started recording the 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.680 next phone call Marcus May. He goes, let's find up 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.760 what's going on here? And it's something happen this that 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:03.160 we can You know, Steve's always always thinking maybe we 0:15:03.160 --> 0:15:05.680 can get Scotty appear to a story to this. There's 0:15:05.760 --> 0:15:08.320 maybe a happy ending, there's a there's a struggle, and 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.320 that's the way they think that we can. He wants 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:14.080 to help people. It's these greatest thing that he wants 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:18.640 to invest in, and so he basically I started recording 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.680 the phone call and Mark was like, dude, you're living 0:15:22.680 --> 0:15:24.360 in your car. What's going on? So I kind of 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:27.360 explained to him, and I was very nice. I'm like, well, yeah, man, 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.240 living my car, got this going on. Me and a 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:33.400 cat guy placed count you over here where a staked 0:15:33.400 --> 0:15:35.880 that were pretty much safe at and stuff this and that, 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:40.120 and even when Dallas heard the phone call afterwards, just 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:43.080 going dude, why didn't y'all do like a take two 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:45.160 or take three? Scotty sounds like he doesn't give a 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:48.560 rat that. I'm sorry, it doesn't give you know, Scotty 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:50.320 sound like he doesn't give a fuck about what's going on. 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:54.400 I'm like, dude, honestly, I mean, I was at a 0:15:54.440 --> 0:15:57.440 point where I just accepted what was going on. I 0:15:57.440 --> 0:16:00.480 accepted my fate. I was going to be in control 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.680 of my faith. Nobody else was. Because I never wanted 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.960 to burden anybody else. That was always my biggest thing, 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.280 So I didn't reach out for others for help. Otherways, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:12.920 it was just me being me that I just did 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.840 not reach out for help. I probably should have, and 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.000 anybody else's, anybody else's in a position, I encourage you 0:16:19.120 --> 0:16:21.640 to do that, even though you want to make up 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:25.720 heavy excuse in the book not too I've even I've 0:16:25.760 --> 0:16:28.360 tweeted out in the past, you know, reach out, you know, 0:16:28.640 --> 0:16:30.680 through my depression things that I was having years ago 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:34.080 and been living with for a long time. And that's 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:37.000 basically what happened is Marcus kind of got the ball rolling. 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:43.640 The The funny thing I found out afterwards is Marcus 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:47.040 is standing in Dallas's house, So Marcus has to go to, hey, Steve, 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.280 it's no okay for Scott to come up here. And 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.240 Steve's like, I'm pretty sure I don't think would be 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:52.880 an issue, but yeah, tell him to come up here, 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.880 tell him what take care of his tires. So I 0:16:54.960 --> 0:16:57.160 basically called god a tire apartment the very next morning, 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.240 Sunday morning, to get my tires shapcare of. And I'm 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:01.680 still in my mind trying to figure out way to 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.000 get out of this in one sense, because I was like, 0:17:04.160 --> 0:17:05.919 I don't I don't want to do it, you know, 0:17:05.960 --> 0:17:09.480 I just I'm I'm hostly, really comfortable where I'm at, 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:14.840 accepting my fate and ready to go. And so they said, well, 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:16.399 I just packed up my stuff in the sense and 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:19.200 head up the road and found out later Dallas was 0:17:19.240 --> 0:17:23.640 actually in Alaska doing the thing up there, and had 0:17:23.640 --> 0:17:26.920 no idea what was going on until he got back 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:28.640 to where he had cell service. He called the chicker 0:17:28.760 --> 0:17:30.280 was going on and said, hey, he's okay to sky 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.879 he registers coming up And I was like, for what, 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:38.200 oh for real? Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell him, yeah, be sure, 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:40.840 he's already here. He's already here, Okay, yeah, yeah, you know, 0:17:41.280 --> 0:17:43.960 so I already come up there into another guy's house 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.919 and didn't feel comfortable being up there at all, just 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:52.719 because I didn't feel like I belonged. And that was 0:17:52.800 --> 0:18:02.679 kind of the where Yeah, Marcus had he was the 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.440 the spark. They kind of lit the fire, They kind 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.520 of got the ball rolling. Because one of the greatest 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:13.000 things I found out coming up here was just how 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:16.479 loving Dallas was. Steve you, a guy I didn't even know, 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.840 had a heart of gold. All the people at the 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:28.879 PC Center, DPY Performance Center, from Nadia, Kat Dylan, all 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:31.040 the guys that worked there, and everything else. You walk 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:34.679 in that place, there's energy that is just so real, 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:36.639 genuine and positive. 0:18:36.800 --> 0:18:42.080 It's twisted, so hold it so you get there. Okay, 0:18:42.720 --> 0:18:46.399 Dallas comes in from his trip, what is the first 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:51.000 thing that he makes you guys do because so many 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:56.000 people like you mentioned Scott Hall, Jake Roberts, Butterbean, everybody 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.960 goes there for help. Okay, that's the thing. You need help. 0:19:00.760 --> 0:19:05.040 So your state of mind now is you you accept 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:06.840 your fate, you don't want to be here anymore, blah 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:10.320 blah blah. But you also know that these people are 0:19:10.320 --> 0:19:13.119 willing to help you. What is the first thing that 0:19:13.240 --> 0:19:14.440 Dallas makes you do? 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:17.480 Sit down and talk with him. 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.679 So you tell him, like, where your mind is that? 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.040 Yeah? He he really just sits down and starts questioning 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.119 what's going on with you? What's been happening? Why did 0:19:26.119 --> 0:19:29.040 you lose touch with me? All these things? And he's 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.560 I mean, he's ten years older than me. I'm fifty 0:19:32.600 --> 0:19:36.280 seventy sixty seven and it was two about a year 0:19:36.280 --> 0:19:39.439 and a half ago now and that's not even been 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.960 a year yet, a little over year now, and so 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.879 he's still he has that older, wiser person and lve me. 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.360 He's dealt with Jake, he's dealt with Scott, he's dealt 0:19:48.359 --> 0:19:51.240 with Marcus. He's dealt with guys who are train wrecks 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.840 in one sense where they're combative to what's going on 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:59.560 me That that would me. And we started talking and 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.320 within the maybe five minutes, he goes, Dude, all these 0:20:03.320 --> 0:20:08.679 other guys have had addiction issues, have had alcohol issues 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:12.120 or this and that. He goes, you, you just need 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:14.679 to get your mind right. That might be harder, but 0:20:15.640 --> 0:20:18.680 with you being around the right people and getting doing 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.280 the right things again in your life instead of you know, 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:25.240 giving all your energy to your mom, direct all that 0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:28.879 to yourself for a change, give it to yourself. And 0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:31.040 he goes. I said, dude, don't feel like I really 0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:34.280 belong here. He goes, dude, you do. We love you. 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:39.639 You belong here. How they put it to me, it 0:20:39.760 --> 0:20:41.159 was the only way you can pay The only way 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:42.640 I want you to pay me back for this whole 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:49.520 thing is just become the best you you can be. 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:53.360 That's all I want you to do. Yeah. And at 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:55.080 the point in time, I don't know if you've seen 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:58.080 it before and after pictures and stuff like that, but 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.600 when I came here, I hadn't worked out in probably 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:06.520 five or six years. Body looked like, you know, mashed potatoes. Basically, 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:10.520 I had a thirty inch ways waiting two forty one 0:21:11.600 --> 0:21:13.639 and so it took a couple of weeks basically that 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:18.640 they just let me kind of decompress, sleep, wander around, 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:20.880 kind of do some stuff in my own little bit, 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.000 get used to the house. I would actually walk around 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:27.280 the house numerous times, going, well, that coffeemaker is actually mine. Down, 0:21:27.320 --> 0:21:29.840 said it's mine. I can sit in the sofa and 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:32.160 I can take a nap on the sofa that's down, 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:34.640 said this is mine. I would walk around every room 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.439 in the house and it sets to go this is 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.720 mine's down, said, this is my feel comfortable, this house 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:43.280 is yours, and I would have to actually walked around 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:46.760 there trying to accept, you know, this is mine. I 0:21:46.800 --> 0:21:48.480 put it the address of the house on my phone, 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.879 which is the only way that I actually, in one sense, 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:55.800 took ownership of it in a sense if you be able 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:57.479 to put it that way, that I said to that 0:21:57.520 --> 0:21:59.240 I actually belonged there. And I could actually put the 0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:03.160 address the house my phone that was my address given 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:05.800