1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Get your Bobby Bulls on Bobby Bone. 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,760 Speaker 2: All right, So Gretchen Wilson was in the studio and 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 2: we'll play that interview in a second. She was fantastic, 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 2: and then afterward we'll go for another thirty minutes or 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:13,320 Speaker 2: so on the podcast. So don't want you to leave 6 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: after that's over all. Right here she is Gretchen Wilson. 7 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 2: They will go on the Bobby Bones show now. 8 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: Gretchen Wilson, Gretchen, good to see you. What do you 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 3: have with you? 10 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 4: What do I have with me? 11 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 5: Yeah? 12 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: Is that from Pearl? It is. 13 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 4: It's a little part of Pearl that I brought. Yeah. 14 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 3: Is that a glove? 15 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 4: It's both of them. Yeah, these were my These were 16 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 4: my hands. 17 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 3: Don't they look smooth so funny? 18 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 4: Yeah? And they're off, they're kind of dirty. I was 19 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 4: surprised at but they sent them to me just so 20 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 4: I could have them for things like this, so that 21 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 4: I can really bring them around and show a little 22 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 4: piece of my other self. They want them back. 23 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 3: I have to They want them back. 24 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 4: We have to FedEx them back. Actually, my publicers like, 25 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 4: don't forget the gloves, they were asking me about them. 26 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 2: I would make fake ones and send the fake ones 27 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: back to look like that. 28 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 4: Well, you know, I have four dogs at home, and 29 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 4: my mom this morning was just like tell them that 30 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 4: the dog you know, I mean, actually probably happened. 31 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, So ABS some questions about that show, specifically, who 32 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: can you tell that you're on the mask singer? 33 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: You can't tell anyone. I mean, I actually am so 34 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: surprised at how how they keep the integrity of the 35 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,039 Speaker 4: secrets and the hush hush Like the whole time I 36 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 4: was there for a month long work days, very strenuous, 37 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 4: and you have to wear this hoodie and this visor 38 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: that's taped. It's even taped on the inside, so you 39 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: only have two little tiny squares that you didn see 40 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 4: through gloves. Can't show your hair, your skin, your ankles, 41 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 4: your fingers, nothing. So the whole time I was there, 42 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 4: I had absolutely no idea who I was competing against. 43 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: Oh, you didn't even know who you were? Absolutely not 44 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 3: thought about that. 45 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,880 Speaker 4: No, I had to watch, just like the viewing audience 46 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 4: at home, to see who was being unmasked. Every The 47 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: only one I knew was who came in second place, 48 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 4: Andy Grammar, because they let us unmask in front of 49 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: each other. But that was it. I didn't know anybody 50 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: else the whole time. It was a guessing game. 51 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: What about your family? 52 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: Though, so very few people. My publicist knew hair and 53 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 4: makeup artists, who's been with me for over twenty years. 54 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 4: She's the only one that went out there with me. 55 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 3: Wait, why did you need haar a makeup done? 56 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 4: Well, there is the unmasking at some point. 57 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 3: Oh oh, so there just in case, because you could. 58 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 4: Get unmasked at any at any given moment. Every time 59 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 4: you go out there, it could be your last performance, 60 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: so you have to be ready to oh see as 61 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 4: good as you possibly can underneath them. And I mean, 62 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 4: if you saw it, I was pretty dang sweaty. I 63 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 4: looked like I looked like a regular old, middle aged 64 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 4: woman who just worked her ass off. 65 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 3: But that's funny. 66 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 4: But I mean we did the best we could under 67 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: the mask. Yeah. 68 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: When I did Dancing with the Stars, we had to 69 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,359 Speaker 2: take our suitcases fully packed every show because you might 70 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: be going because. 71 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: We might be going home. I never thought about that. 72 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 4: Like, yeah, So, I mean, I guess it's probably a 73 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 4: lot easier for the guys. They don't do as much styling, 74 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: but you know, some of the girls take that mask off, 75 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 4: and it's like, did they just spend an hour and 76 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: a half doing hair and makeup before they took that 77 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 4: head off? 78 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 2: When did they come to you? How far ahead before 79 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 2: you left? Did they come to you and say do 80 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 2: the mass singer? And what did they say to convince 81 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: you to do it? 82 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 3: Well? 83 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 4: They had been asking, I think they asked several times, 84 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 4: and I was just you know, I was just like me, 85 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 4: you know, dancing around in a costume. I just didn't 86 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 4: make sense. But then a few years ago, I was 87 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 4: one of the first in I think town, early in 88 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 4: twenty twenty to get COVID, and it threw me for 89 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 4: a loop. I'm a long hauler, I've gotten now, high 90 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 4: blood pressure as these are all things that I didn't 91 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: have before. And then I fell dancing with the six 92 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:32,959 Speaker 4: year old boy doing ring around the rosie. I fell 93 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 4: and just demolished my left leg ankle was just you 94 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 4: know when you see on YouTube videos sometimes the foot 95 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 4: hanging the wrong way. That's what I did. And so 96 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 4: I had like about a solid year and a half 97 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: of just I don't know if I'm ever going to 98 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 4: get back, you know, get back to walking wearing these shoes. 99 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 4: My health was so bad. It took forever to get 100 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: the right medication. So this time when they asked, I 101 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: was on the rebound. I was getting healthier, I'd finally 102 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: found good doctors and all of that. To myself, I 103 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: was scared. I was scared to go back out on tour. 104 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: I was I didn't know if I could still do it. 105 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 4: And I thought, well, if I can go out there 106 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 4: and I can do something that's so outside of my norm, 107 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: something that pushes me to my limit. I mean hard 108 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 4: rehearsals for choreography and just stuff that I'm not used to, 109 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 4: if I can do that, then I can keep going 110 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 4: for a while. And so for me, it was really 111 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 4: about testing myself and proving to myself that I could 112 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 4: still do this for another You know, however many years. 113 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: Wow, I didn't know you hurt yourself so bad. 114 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: It was and while you're sick, it's also like you're 115 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: dealing with long COVID and you also can't get your 116 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 2: body in. 117 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: I gave like sixty five pounds, so. 118 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: It's broken and your whole systems. I was in a wheelchair. 119 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in a wheelchair for like almost eight months, 120 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 4: casted from over the knee all the way down to 121 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 4: the middle of my foot. 122 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: I'm sorry to hear that. 123 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: Yes, and it was just yeah, and it was just 124 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 4: a long recovery and then depression, like I was one 125 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 4: of those you know, I'm an old fashioned redneck from 126 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 4: out in the country. I'm like, depression, I don't believe 127 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 4: in that, and then it happens to you, and then 128 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: you're like, dang, this is real, you know, like I 129 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 4: really my everything just felt bad for a while. I 130 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 4: just I didn't even feel like I was inside of 131 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 4: my own self, like I thought I was in someone 132 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 4: else's skin. And it just took a lot of determination, 133 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 4: a lot of prayer obviously, and a lot of hard 134 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 4: work and believing in myself. But yeah, the Mask Singer 135 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 4: definitely gave me that. That just kind of that push. 136 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 2: You seem so energetic and even magnetic right now. Are 137 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 2: you feeling good? 138 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 4: I feel good. I feel like that. In my life, 139 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 4: I have had so many things working against me, and 140 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: I've always sort of just just I don't know if 141 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,239 Speaker 4: it's just the way I was raised by the women 142 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 4: around me just being such strong women, but I've always 143 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: just been you know, you're not gonna get me down 144 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 4: kind of a person, but there was definitely in the 145 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 4: last couple of years, there was that moment, especially at 146 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 4: my age. I'm you know, I'm no spring chicken. I'm 147 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 4: coming up on fifty two years old. So I was like, well, 148 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 4: maybe it's just time. Maybe this is God's way of saying, 149 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: slow down, just be an old woman like you're supposed 150 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 4: to be, you know. But then, you know, with all 151 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,159 Speaker 4: the prayer and everything, it just made sense to me 152 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 4: that God actually has a much bigger plan for me. 153 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 4: And I know this sounds crazy, but it is not singing, 154 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 4: even though that is like a miracle that I came 155 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 4: from where I come from, and you know, the things 156 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: that have happened to me weren't supposed to. But I'm 157 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 4: determined and I'm sure that this singing thing is still 158 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: just a path to something else that I'm supposed to 159 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: be doing, or I think I would have been hanging 160 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 4: it up. You know, a couple of years ago, is. 161 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 3: That suit heavy? 162 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: It's very heavy, very heavy. 163 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,920 Speaker 2: Because I'm thinking about your foot, yes, and you're testing 164 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: your lungs obviously singing you're having to move around in 165 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: that thing a lot. And if it's heavy, it was, 166 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: it very uncomfortable. 167 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,119 Speaker 4: It's it's mostly hot. I mean, I would say it's heavy, 168 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: for sure, but there's just the heat and the kind 169 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 4: of costume that I had. There was not even a 170 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 4: little bitty sippy hole for like a straw to take 171 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 4: a drink. So in long rehearsals and long, you know, 172 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 4: dry blocking sets, that would get kind of uncomfortable because. 173 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 3: You can't just pull your head off, but people around. 174 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 4: You, no, you can't. Sometimes they'd let you do the 175 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 4: rehearsals with the visor, but that was still hot. You know. Yeah, 176 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 4: it's heavy, it's it's hot, it's but you know what 177 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 4: a lot of people don't know is that underneath it's 178 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: it's a it's like a bicycle helmet that they just 179 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 4: crank tighter and tighter and tighter, and then you wiggle 180 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 4: and if your head starts to go over. But I mean, 181 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 4: it's heavy enough that one of the performances they had 182 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 4: me squatting down and inside of this little box and 183 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 4: then when the music starts, I step up and I 184 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 4: had to practice it three or four times because just 185 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: lifting that head it was like lifting another person on 186 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 4: my back to stand up straight, and I just thought, 187 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 4: I'm not gonna get all the way up or I 188 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: might go over backwards. 189 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 3: When did you start to feel like you could win it? 190 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 4: Who I didn't think I was gonna win all the 191 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 4: way till the end. I thought for sure that that 192 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 4: Boogie Woogie had it. He was my favorite character. I 193 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: mean the first time I heard him, seeing because we 194 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 4: were in the same group. We started in the same group, 195 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,760 Speaker 4: and I was like, Oh, this guy's got it. Whoever 196 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 4: he is, he's fabulous. He's just got the charisma. He 197 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 4: played the character parts so well. And we actually kind 198 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 4: of we were really high five in each other through 199 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 4: the hallways, still not knowing who each other were. You know, 200 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 4: we'd just call each other. I just called him Boogie 201 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: and he called me Pearl. That crazy, but yeah, we 202 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 4: had kind of a little character romance thing going on. 203 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 4: And then yeah, I didn't. I was determined to win 204 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 4: it when I got there, because I didn't fly all 205 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 4: the way out there for nothing. You know, I wasn't 206 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,559 Speaker 4: gonna do all of that just to go home right away. 207 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 4: So yeah, I was. I was in it to win it, 208 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: but I didn't think I had it, And not even 209 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 4: until the end. 210 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 3: What happens right after the show after you win, you 211 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 3: go sleep. 212 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 4: You go to sleep, you try to get the cramping 213 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 4: to stop. You hydrate. I mean, seriously, the hydration was 214 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: probably the biggest thing for me, just being out there, 215 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: not used to California really that I don't go that often, 216 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 4: and just the wear and tear. So yeah, I mean 217 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 4: there was twice that I had to have medics come 218 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 4: and give me IV in my hotel room. 219 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 3: Wow, it was. 220 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 4: It was not an easy show. 221 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: Are the contestants always singing live? Yes? 222 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, we sing live every time and there now they 223 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 4: do they do do some vocal recording. They're not really 224 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 4: it's not that important, but I think they they do 225 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 4: the vocal recording in case, you know, like a it's 226 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 4: a live TV show with a with a live audience. 227 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 4: I mean, what would happen if I fell and broke 228 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: my leg again right before I was supposed to go on, 229 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 4: you know, and they had to just sit me in 230 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 4: a seat, or what happens if I got laryngitis, you know, 231 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 4: all of a sudden. I think that they have it 232 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 4: as a backup plan. But everybody from what I was 233 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 4: listening to was live, and I'm pretty good at you know, 234 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 4: if you hear no flaws at all. You have to 235 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 4: question it. But you know, sitting back in my little 236 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 4: pipe and drape, listening to the other performances, it all 237 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 4: seemed really live to me. 238 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 2: You talk about where you came from, Pogonas, Illinois. Yes, 239 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 2: what's your hometown? 240 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: Like small? There's like seven hundred and eight hundred people there, 241 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 4: like a little wick shop, really no traffic light. There's 242 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 4: Poconnas is a little bit bigger than pier On Sea. 243 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 4: I had to pick a place when I got signed. 244 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 4: They were like, you have to have a hometown. I 245 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 4: was like, I really don't, though, I just lived everywhere. 246 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: You know, I'm here for three months there for three months. 247 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: I was born in Granite City, but I never lived 248 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: in Granite City, you know, it's just as it was 249 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 4: a weird childhood. So I had to pick a place. 250 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 4: And my favorite childhood memories were in Pocahontas, and I 251 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 4: did live there in two different spots there, but all 252 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 4: around there they're all little towns of like five hundred, 253 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 4: six hundred, seven hundred, mostly bars. There's really nothing to 254 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 4: do but go to the tavern. You know, everybody's mom 255 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 4: and dad and grandma and grandpa and aunt and uncles 256 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 4: are all a member of some kind of bush pool 257 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: league or you know, some kind of sand volleyball where 258 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 4: everybody's just getting drunk and fighting. I mean, it's just 259 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 4: it's just a lot of a lot of ignorant, drunken stuff. 260 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 4: I mean, and it's still the same. I go back 261 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: and I'll walk into the bar and there's the same 262 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: old man with the same cigarette with the long curved 263 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 4: ash hanging off of it. He's still drinking the same 264 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: mugg a bush, you know, and it's like nothing changes 265 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 4: around here, you know. It's it's crazy. 266 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 3: Why did you move to Nashville? 267 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 4: Because I was had big dreams, you know, just like 268 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 4: everybody else that moved to Nashville. I wanted to I 269 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 4: wanted to be Lauretta Lynn. 270 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: You know how old were you when you moved here. 271 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 4: I wasn't that young. I had had a pretty good 272 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 4: deal going back home. I was in three different bands 273 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 4: at the same time, playing every night. I was kind 274 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 4: of the big star back home, and moved down here 275 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: in probably ninety four and had to get a job 276 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 4: ten and bar right away because it was you know, 277 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: now little fish. So yeah, and I got a job 278 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 4: in the one place in all of Nashville that prides 279 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 4: itself on never playing country music, which was really strange, 280 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: really Bourbon Street Blues and Boogie Bard. 281 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. I used to live right over there on Prayer's Alle. Yeah, 282 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 3: so that's where you went to work. 283 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 4: That's where I went to work. And I was making 284 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 4: really good money. You know, worked five a week. They're 285 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: going at three pm to open and stay there until 286 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 4: three am to close. 287 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 3: And were you singing at the bar? 288 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 4: It all so not at first, but then after I 289 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,080 Speaker 4: was there for a little while, I made friends with 290 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 4: Stacy mitch Hart and Blues you can use band who 291 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 4: he still plays there, and we're pretty good buddies. And 292 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 4: he would start calling me up, and you know, I 293 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 4: was like the singing waitress and he'd just call me up. 294 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: And but again, I didn't get to do any any 295 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: originals or anything that was country. I was singing, you know, 296 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 4: Patti LaBelle and Aretha Franklin. 297 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: Were you writing that? 298 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 4: So when I worked at Bourbon Street is when I 299 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 4: first met John and Kenny. John and Kenny just happened 300 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 4: in there one night. I was behind the bar and 301 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 4: they heard me sing and made their way up to 302 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 4: talk to me and. 303 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: Was it like big and Riches here? Was that the 304 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: thing was? Or did you know they were? 305 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 4: They were still up and coming. Nobody knew them as 306 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: big and rich. John had a solo thing that was going, 307 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 4: and Kenny was trying his hand at the solo thing. 308 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 4: But they had really first met right around that time 309 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 4: and started writing together. So the music mafia was just 310 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 4: beginning at that moment, and so that's when that's when 311 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 4: they just asked me. You know, John said, how come 312 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 4: you got a record deal? And you know, me, being 313 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 4: who I am, I just kind of looked at him, like, 314 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 4: why you got one in your pocket? Because if you don't, 315 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: you know, order a drink and get out of my face. 316 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 4: I'm busy. So that was kind of our first meeting. 317 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 4: And then I got invited out to a music mafia 318 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: at the Pubble Love, and the kind of the rest. 319 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,680 Speaker 3: Is history, and you just that just became your Your. 320 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 4: Group, became my family. It became my musical my musical home, 321 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 4: and my musical family. Yeah, we were all a little 322 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: bit different, but we were all good and we were 323 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 4: all good enough to hold an audience and that was 324 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:34,839 Speaker 4: kind of what our motto was. It doesn't really matter 325 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 4: what you play, whether it's electric guitar or a fiddle, 326 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 4: or if you're, you know, a painter, or if you're 327 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 4: a sword swallower. We don't care. As long as you're 328 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 4: good at what you do and you can hold an audience, 329 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: then you're welcome at the Mafia. 330 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 3: I saw you at the ACM Awards. I didn't. 331 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 4: I saw you too. 332 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: I think it's talk to you because everybody, you know, 333 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: everybody's moving all around. But I thought it was super 334 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: cool because you got on stage with other new artists 335 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 2: when it was you, it was a whole bunch of 336 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 2: you guys. 337 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, other female vocalist artists that have won. 338 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: Passed yet and it was twenty years since you won 339 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:02,559 Speaker 3: the award. 340 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 4: Something like that. 341 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really it was a really cool moment. 342 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: It was it was neat to be standing up there 343 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 4: with the likes of one owner and you know, just amazing, 344 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 4: amazing women in the industry. Crystal Gale, Yeah, Sarah Martina, 345 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 4: who's my Martina. I had to tell her a crazy 346 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: story about one time I was going under for a 347 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: surgery and the last thing I saw on TV as 348 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 4: I was going under was Martina McBride. She was on 349 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 4: one of the morning talk shows and when I came 350 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: out of anstegia, I was screaming at everybody, don't you 351 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 4: mess with my Martina and I told you I told 352 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 4: her that story. That's a pretty funny story. 353 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 2: I had a weirdo show up at my house looking 354 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 2: for Martina and had to call her and be like, 355 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: there's a weird too looking for you. 356 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, like lock every door because they were tend of aces. 357 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: Man. 358 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: I had issues with a television show filming my little 359 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: girl back in the beginning of my career, and they 360 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 4: were asked not to, and it was actually in the 361 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 4: contract that they would not film the kid, but they 362 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: were doing it anyway, and I was losing my mind. 363 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 4: I called John and John was like, I don't have 364 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 4: any kids yet. Called Martina. So I called Martina and 365 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 4: she was just really really calming, very very cool about 366 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: the whole situation. Gave me great advice. She's just a 367 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: she's asist. 368 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 2: What do you say to new artists if they're like Retchen, 369 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: I'm twenty two and I just signed. 370 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,200 Speaker 3: A record deal, what do I expect? 371 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 2: Like? 372 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 3: What what kind of advice do you give them? 373 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 4: Not to expect anything, because it's never what you expect. 374 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: I don't think anybody when they come to Nashville following 375 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 4: their hopes and dreams, really know what they're getting into, 376 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 4: because no one, no no deal is the same. Everybody's 377 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 4: going to have a different kind of experience in it, 378 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 4: especially now. Like I was, I think among one of 379 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: the last to have like the real major record deal. 380 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 4: Things really changed after that. Nobody goes to Walmart parking 381 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 4: lots and does in stores and sign CDs anymore. You 382 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 4: know that was still going on, you know, for me 383 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 4: when I was a breaking artist. So it's so different. 384 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 4: I don't know that I would have great advice because 385 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 4: the world and just how you market yourself and how 386 00:15:56,280 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 4: you present yourself is so different. I probably have to 387 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 4: call my daughter and say, what advice would you give 388 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 4: someone your age? But I mean, honestly, I think just 389 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 4: try to stay true to yourself. But remember that in 390 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 4: every business, regardless of what it is you have to 391 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 4: there are some concessions, there are some things that there's 392 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 4: some give and take. If I could speak to my 393 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 4: younger self, I would tell myself that be a little 394 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: less nitpicky and demanding and be a little more open minded, 395 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 4: you know, like my first album, I really there were 396 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 4: three songs that I just did not want on that record, 397 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 4: and I really fought and fought and fought, and of 398 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: course the record label won. But now I look back 399 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 4: at those particular songs and I'm so glad that they're 400 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 4: on that record because they show a side of myself 401 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 4: that I wasn't gonna show anybody. And you know, the 402 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: producers knew better, and so be open minded. I think 403 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 4: that's the best advice I can give. 404 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 3: How much did Redneck Woman change your life? 405 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 4: Redneck Woman was it? I mean, it was the whole 406 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 4: People will tell you there are a lot of really 407 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 4: talented people, but it takes the right voice, also the 408 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 4: right song, and the right time. Those things have to 409 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 4: kind of come together for you to have a really 410 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 4: monster hit. And that's what happened with Redneck Woman. And 411 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 4: it was just the perfect time. Women like me weren't 412 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 4: really being spoken to or sung about, and you know, 413 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 4: when I turned on the music channels, all I saw 414 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 4: was beautiful women like Faith Hill rolling around in silk sheets. 415 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 4: You know, I can feel you breathe, and I'm like, 416 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 4: who the hell looks like that? At six o'clock in 417 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 4: the morning, you know, not me or anybody that I know. 418 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 4: So it was just the time. It was time to 419 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 4: write a song for women like me that were happy 420 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 4: to be like me, that thought that their whole world 421 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 4: was fulfilled living in a mobile home and driving a 422 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 4: pickup truck and raising kids and dogs, you know, and 423 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 4: going to the football game on the weekend. Not everybody 424 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 4: wants the same thing in life. And if that's what 425 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 4: your life is, and that's what you're happy with, and 426 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: you should be celebrated too. 427 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: Did you and John just write that together? Yes, when 428 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 2: you finished writing it, did it feel special? Did it 429 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 2: feel like it had texture? 430 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 4: It felt special to me because it felt like my home. 431 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 4: You know, it felt like I'd finally truly written a 432 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 4: song that really represented me. But now I think are 433 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 4: honestly our feeling was nobody's going to play this. It's 434 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 4: you know, we were in a moment in country music 435 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 4: where that pendulum was swinging more towards the slicker sound, 436 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 4: and we just thought that we might have missed missed 437 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 4: our window, or that the timing wasn't right, And you know, 438 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 4: girls weren't doing what I was doing at that moment. 439 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 4: So it really that's the reason it worked, but we 440 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 4: were afraid that it could be the reason that it wouldn't. 441 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: Did it work immediately once they committed to it. 442 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,719 Speaker 4: No, the fans loved it. Yes, the fans loved it. 443 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 4: And if it hadn't been for the fans calling the 444 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 4: local radio stations and demanding it, I'm not sure that 445 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 4: it would have gone the way it did. Program directors 446 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,640 Speaker 4: didn't really love it that much. I mean, we got 447 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 4: we got phone calls back at the label that I 448 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 4: was hearing about, you know, some of some of them 449 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: saying things like, we've been working for twenty years to 450 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 4: get this redneck word out of our listener's mouth, you know, 451 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 4: and it was really kind of up to me to 452 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 4: define redneck. It's like, you know, you guys have just 453 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 4: decided all across this country that it's a bad word 454 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 4: and that it means racist. But that's not what it means. 455 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 4: It's not at all what it means. I mean, being 456 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 4: a redneck has value. It's about where you come from, 457 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,359 Speaker 4: and it's really about being out in the field farming 458 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 4: all day and coming back in the house and having 459 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 4: a red neck from being out on a tractor all 460 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 4: day long. That's what it's about. It has nothing to 461 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 4: do with racism, and I became kind of the face 462 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 4: of having to explain that to the world, and even 463 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: the radio stations didn't want that word, and so to 464 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 4: present myself as the redneck woman kind of took a 465 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 4: lot of you know what I. 466 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 2: Saw that you're doing the show with Blake Shelton, The 467 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: Taylor Sheridan Show. 468 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: You're the tour manager. Yes, that's exciting. Tell us about 469 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 3: that show. 470 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 4: It's really cool because in this show, I get to 471 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 4: show my face. 472 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 3: You don't have to wear a really heavy costume. 473 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, this is a really really cool opportunity. I 474 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 4: think a lot of people are thinking that's just going 475 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 4: to be another run of the mill, you know, talent competition, 476 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: but it's really very different than any of the ones 477 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 4: that I've seen anyway. This is this one moves across 478 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 4: the country. It's a live audience in kind of a bar, 479 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 4: like a large honky Tonk sort of situation. The audience 480 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 4: that comes in every night is an audience that's coming 481 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 4: to see Keith Urban. So all of these contestants really 482 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 4: are an opening act for you know, an amazingly talented artist. 483 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: Who goes out there every single show and just just 484 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 4: nails it. I mean, I'm super huge fan of his 485 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 4: now if I wasn't before, I'm just amazed by how 486 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 4: professional he is. And yeah, my job was really just 487 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 4: to prepare these kids for what it's really like to 488 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 4: be on the road. It's not all the glitz and glamor. 489 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 4: It's a lot of bus life. It's a lot of 490 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 4: parking by dumpsters. It's a lot of making sure that 491 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 4: you don't party too hard, get plenty of sleep, don't 492 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 4: talk all day, you know, take care of yourselves. What 493 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 4: songs are you going to sing? How are you gonna 494 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 4: beat the girl that was just up there before you. 495 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 4: It was that kind of thing. I didn't have to 496 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 4: take care of the buses in the hotels, thank goodness. 497 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: I just didn't have a early tour manage, No I did. 498 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: I did what a tour manager does on site. Yeah, 499 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 4: but not the logistics. 500 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 3: No merchant into the night, none of that. 501 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 4: Oh, thank goodness. 502 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 3: The show is called The Road and it's this fall, 503 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: right on fall. 504 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have an exact date yet, but yeah. 505 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: Are you re recording here for the party? 506 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 4: I am, Yes, that's what I've heard, so I'm going 507 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 4: to go in and re record the first album entirely, 508 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 4: but I'm going to do it different. I'm gonna I'm 509 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 4: gonna get guest artists on each on each song, and 510 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 4: I've got a few in mind already, but I I'm 511 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 4: kind of keeping my I'm keeping it open right now 512 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,200 Speaker 4: because there are a few people that I really think 513 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: haven't had the opportunity to be in the spotlight yet 514 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 4: that should be so some of the names, I think 515 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 4: you'll recognize. Some of them you might just should have 516 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 4: recognized already. 517 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: And did performing again on the Masked Singer, because obviously 518 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 2: you're a performer and a singer. But it'll make you 519 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 2: feel comfortable with the committing just to getting on the 520 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: road doing a bunch of shows. 521 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 4: Now, well, yeah, I mean that was definitely one of 522 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,960 Speaker 4: the one of the things that I had to prove 523 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 4: to myself. If I could do that, then I could 524 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 4: get out there. I'm not going to say that it's 525 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 4: easy to be on the road at my age. It's not. 526 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: It's hot. 527 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 3: You act like you're a hundred is the thing. 528 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 2: You look great, you sound great, You're acting like you're 529 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 2: walking here on a walker. 530 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, well I was, I was ago, Okay, I guess 531 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. You get that close to it all 532 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 4: and you just maybe I'm just still in that fear mode, 533 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 4: you know that, like every step I take. As you 534 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 4: can see, I'm wearing really short boots now, I'm just like, yeah, 535 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 4: I don't know about the high heels anymore. So yeah, 536 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm I'm definitely I'm not as young as 537 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: some of them, you know, so I have to be careful. 538 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,439 Speaker 4: But I'm having fun on tour. You know, I've already 539 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,640 Speaker 4: done probably ten this year. I've got fifteen or twenty 540 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: more on the books, and I'm actually having a lot 541 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,879 Speaker 4: of fun a new band together. You young kids in 542 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 4: the band got a lot of energy and they jaff 543 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,360 Speaker 4: They make me have a lot of fun on stage. 544 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: And a bunch of the shows and a lot of 545 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 2: the places that we're in Indiana, California doing Nashville, Detroit, Lakes, Minnesota, Tulsa, Oklahoma, 546 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: Ocean City, Maryland, and so you guys can catch gretching out. 547 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 3: On the road. Yeah, it's super cool to talk with you. 548 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 4: Thanks for having me. It's cool to be here. 549 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 2: I really appreciate you coming at congratulations on the wind. 550 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 2: I know how much hard work it is actually do that. 551 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 2: It looks like to people it's like, oh good, but 552 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:13,360 Speaker 2: it's hard work. 553 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: No, No, dancing would have been way. That show was 554 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 4: like an absolutely no for me from word go. 555 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: Both both their own difficult, but one of the most 556 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 2: difficult parts just being away from home. 557 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, like just living in a hotel. 558 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know what it's like to wear a 559 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: lot of hats, you know. And also I saw you 560 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 4: too at the award show. You were also wearing a 561 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: lot of jackets, didn't I see you change jackets. 562 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 2: And there were times where like things were breaking and 563 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 2: they were like, just get out there and fit, and 564 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, I do it. So yes, yeah, 565 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 2: I was being versative, being versatile and just doing it 566 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: is my only talent. 567 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, you just got to trust in yourself. 568 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 2: Just got to do it. Well, it has been super 569 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: fun to talk with you. Congratulations to Pearl. Thank you 570 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: is you but not really you. 571 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 4: I'm going to add a couple of those songs to 572 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 4: the show. 573 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 3: I think, really, yeah, that's fine. 574 00:23:58,840 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 4: Why not? 575 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 3: That's fine that. 576 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 4: If I could keep the gloves, I'd wear them, but 577 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: they won't. They won't. 578 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, I would send back fake wins a 579 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: look just like that, good idea, and they would never 580 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 2: know the difference. We had the opportunity to buy our 581 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: stuff on Dancing with the Stars. 582 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 4: So I think this stuff all goes into a museum 583 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 4: of some sort and then they put it out on 584 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: display for a museum. A museum. 585 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 3: Where's that museum? 586 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 5: DC? 587 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 2: Smithsonian? Right next to the Smithsonian, you guys? Followed Gretchen 588 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 2: on Instagram at Gretchen Wilson twenty seven. Gretchen, thank you 589 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: for coming in. Congratulations and hopefully we will see you soon. 590 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 591 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: Come. 592 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:37,959 Speaker 2: This is the Also, an Indiana Pacers fan was arrested 593 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 2: after allegedly stabbing two New York Knicks fans after a 594 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 2: fight broke out because they're playing each other in basketball 595 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: right now, I mean now. It faces three felony charges, 596 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: including all the things you would think. He claimed self defense, 597 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: saying he was pushed and punched, but multiple witnesses identified 598 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: him as a primary aggressor. The incident happened after the 599 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 2: Pacers defeated the Knicks. If you're the judge, you got 600 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: a little lighter on them. If you're a Pacers fan. 601 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, you'd have to, like, I get it, buddy. Yeah. 602 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: Was this in Indie? Yeah? 603 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, making sure Yeah, Carmel, Indiana in a brewery. 604 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 3: They were under the influence. 605 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 2: Shocking from NPR. Economic uncertainty has led to sluggish home 606 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 2: sales and slow construction in the housing market. Some home 607 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,360 Speaker 2: prices are how to reach from any potential buyers. Mortgage 608 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 2: rates are on the rise. Builders are also now facing 609 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: challenges due to uncertainty around the rising cost of materials 610 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 2: and the uncertainty around tariffs. 611 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 3: This fuels This is. 612 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 2: Not advice, but this feels like it's about to be 613 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 2: more of a buyer's market and not a seller's market. 614 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 2: Because any time there are sluggish home sales, that means 615 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: homes aren't selling. So they have to do things to 616 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 2: get them to sell. So what do you do to 617 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: get them to sell? If interest rates aren't dropping, you 618 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: have to lower the prices or have yeah, you know 619 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: other elements in the throw in some mudflaps. 620 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, why can't. 621 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: They just lower the interest rates. 622 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: It's not that easy. 623 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: I know it's not. 624 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 3: But like, and it's not political at all. 625 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,400 Speaker 1: I know, I'm not making it political. It's just like, 626 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: what I don't know why that has to fluctuate so much. 627 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: It's so crazy to me that, like in twenty twenty, 628 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 1: interest rates were like three percent to my house and 629 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: now it's like eight. 630 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: What makes it fluctuate? You know the answer to that? 631 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: So there is the FED. You familiar with the FED, 632 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 3: the federal government FEDS. If you do it too fast, 633 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,560 Speaker 3: or you do it or too even too slow, it 634 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:42,679 Speaker 3: conrect the economy. 635 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: But just don't don't do it. 636 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: Can't we just have It's kind of like the I 637 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 2: like gas, it's like a thermostat. 638 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 3: It's like the economy's thermostat. 639 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a very simple, probably bad 640 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 2: description of why interest rates can't just be thrown around 641 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 2: and just always lowered. 642 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 3: Okay, the FED is the federal government. Close. The FED 643 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 3: is the. 644 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 5: Federal ext Exchange close? 645 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 3: No, any one more shot FED? No, I don't know 646 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 3: the Federal Reserve. 647 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: Oh that they're just they're called FED for short, not like. 648 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: FED, feder. 649 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 6: Federal. 650 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 3: So why they don't lower them? 651 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:27,959 Speaker 5: Now? 652 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 2: Inflation is still a concern, and inflation has cooled a 653 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 2: lot since twenty twenty two, whenever it was peaking. There, 654 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 2: prices are still higher than ideal, and so lowering rates 655 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: too soon could cause inflation to spike again. And then 656 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 2: you get into the stuff that I just get bored 657 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 2: with and stop. It's not that I don't care, but 658 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I'll just have to let somebody smarter 659 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: figure it out and tell me the answers. But that 660 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 2: happened in like the seventies, and it was a mess. 661 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 2: It like ruined the economy. 662 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: For a long time. 663 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: Switch it to quickly. 664 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: Well, they want to avoid the yoyo effect. 665 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so if they cut too early, they have 666 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: to well, if they cut too early, they have to 667 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 2: raise them again later. And so that also is uncertainty, 668 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: which Wall Street hates any sort of uncertainty. And you 669 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 2: can be like me and be like, well, why do 670 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: I care about Wall Street? I don't have a bunch 671 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 2: of stocks. But that does affect everything else, Like if 672 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: you're hiring a contractor and he's buying things from a bit, Yeah, 673 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 2: wall Street does affect everything. 674 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: I get it. I guess there's more of a think. 675 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: About it like if you were and again I don't 676 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: even do this right, but think about it, like you 677 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: were stopping antibiotics early. They don't work well, you're like, oh, 678 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm gonna stop, but then see it. 679 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: Through to completion. So they have to see this high 680 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: rate through to completion. 681 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: The job market is still strong right now, so that 682 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: the job market also affects it. If the job market 683 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: wasn't as strong, they would lower interest rates. 684 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 7: And that means that strong means that that you can 685 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 7: get jobs high rates. 686 00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: So what is it eight percent? 687 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: I think it's somewhere between. I don't know exactly where 688 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: it is at this day, but between seven and eight maybe. 689 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 2: High rates slow down hiring and growth. Does that am 690 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 2: I I just heard? If I'm communicating it properly, I 691 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: hate sand Does that make sense? Because, uh, the job 692 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 2: market has stayed resilient for the last three or four years. 693 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: If companies are still hiring and consumers are still spending. 694 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: The FED which means the the Federal Reserve, they see 695 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: no need to cut because everything is still going in 696 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 2: a way that feels healthy. They need a soft landing, 697 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 2: so they don't. If they do cut, the last thing 698 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: they want to have as a recession. So they got 699 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 2: to be very differ and it's always like a half 700 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 2: a percent. It's never anything like crazy like they will 701 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: never go eight to two, yeah, because then it would 702 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: just be a massive rush to buy everything. But you're right, 703 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 2: there was a time and what you already think it 704 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: was like three percent? 705 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I know it was in twenty twenty. It was 706 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: a three percent because about a house that year. 707 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I say like three years ago. 708 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 2: So and then probably that was was like coming off 709 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 2: of COVID after a very well so. 710 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: COVID had started in March and we bought in like 711 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: June or something, so it's right in the middle of 712 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: like nobody who. 713 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: So I don't know that specifically timeline, but it makes 714 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 2: sense as to why something would be like that around 715 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 2: that time. If they make things too cheap too fast, 716 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: people rush to buy everything all at once, and if 717 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 2: people spend more, demand goes way up because there aren't 718 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 2: there just aren't as many of them. And if demand 719 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 2: goes up, prices rise again, so they have to kind 720 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: of balance it so there is no extreme change based 721 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: on the Like I said, now I'm checking out, you 722 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 2: know what's crazy. 723 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: And I asked the question, Yeah, but why don't people 724 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: why don't they want more? 725 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 5: People to buy more? 726 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 2: People are starting to, Yes, but if everybody goes and 727 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: buys every house because it's cheap. There are no more 728 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 2: houses then, and then once there are no more houses, 729 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: the price of houses. 730 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: Go way up, which is what happened. 731 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: Since there's no demand and the market just goes, well, 732 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 2: there are no houses, so we can make this house 733 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: now one hundred and forty percent of what it was before. Oh, 734 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 2: that is a bad explanation of very confusion. 735 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 3: Rates makes sense. 736 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: It is the lowest than twenty twenty one. I'm looking 737 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 2: at a graph now. Twenty twenty one was very low. 738 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what the rate was, three point one 739 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 2: five percent, and right now it is at six point 740 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: nine percent. 741 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 3: The average thirty year fixed. 742 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 1: Rate so someplaces is a little higher. 743 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: You know, it's crazy. 744 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 8: When my parents bought their first house, it was fifteen percent. 745 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: What but also you could work a full time job 746 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 2: one and have enough money to go buy a house. 747 00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 748 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 8: I'm just saying like it's great, Like we're like, oh 749 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 8: my gosh, six point nine is so high, and my 750 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 8: parents like, man, it was fifteen percent when we bought 751 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 8: our first house. 752 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 5: That's wild. 753 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: I think it's like giving a child a bunch of 754 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,280 Speaker 2: sugar at like nine pm. It's fun for a second, 755 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 2: but then it's just total chaos. And that's what lowering 756 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: rates would be. Like got it, Like everybody's like, this 757 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,680 Speaker 2: is awesome, let's go buy. But then once everything's bought, 758 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: anybody else who wants to buy that didn't buy right 759 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: then can only buy something. But it's like double the 760 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 2: price now, so values skyrocket. 761 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: Well I've been waiting for it to lower so I 762 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: can refinance. 763 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 3: And that is what happened. Sometimes. Yeah, yeah, so that 764 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 3: is a bad explanation but makes sense. 765 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 7: Thank you, not bad because I feel like sometimes you're 766 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 7: our dad and we're just like I. 767 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 5: Never feel that way. I never feel that way like that. 768 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: Why did you call me daddy in private? 769 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 5: I never feel that way. 770 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 3: I've heard you call him, Yeah, dare. 771 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: Now that I understand my money or I'm trying to 772 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: get involved in it because I wasn't my entire marriage, 773 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: and so now that I'm taking some agency over my life, 774 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm like eager to try to work towards paying down 775 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: my mortgage, like I want to like see action. And 776 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: then I was advised like, oh I would to don't 777 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: add more to because you have an eight percent or 778 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: whatever mine seven something percent. 779 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 6: Loan. 780 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: So don't pay towards that, put that money somewhere else, 781 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 1: and then when you can lower, when you can refinance 782 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: the lord, then you can start paying off your house 783 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,479 Speaker 1: because right now you're just be paying towards interest. And 784 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: so now I'm putting money somewhere else, waiting for the 785 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: day that I get to, like maybe put a bigger chunk, 786 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: which this is how my mom was, and I'm like 787 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: sweet cool. Finally, at forty four years old, I started 788 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: to like figure out how my mom operated because she 789 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,480 Speaker 1: was just very diligent about paying things down, and I 790 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: never really understood that about her, but now I'm like, oh, 791 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: I get it, so smart because when she passed away, 792 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: she made our life really really easy, and then when 793 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: my dad passed away, it was really difficult, which was 794 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: hilarious because growing up, my dad was the one that 795 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: always seemed to have more money than my mom. But 796 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: she was just she operated in a smarter more She 797 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: wasn't like, yeah, more frugal, more diligent, intentional way, and 798 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: my dad was more like living life. 799 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 3: I felt that, yeah, I am. 800 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of experience with interest because 801 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 2: in my whole life I've never bought anything I couldn't 802 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: pay for in full cash anything. 803 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: I literally was thinking about that sleep last night. 804 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: Anything. Never had a mortgage. 805 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: Why was I thinking this? 806 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 2: I was thinking about not legit because I bought the smallest, 807 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 2: tiniest thing I could possibly buy that. 808 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 3: I because I'm scared to have to. 809 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm scared to oh And so you know now 810 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 2: it's like wow, all of cash. But yeah, but when 811 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 2: I was buying stuff with cash when I first started, 812 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 2: it was like I couldn't afford anything but the smallest. 813 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 2: I remember the first time I bought a house, I 814 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: went to our general manager and was like, Hey, look, 815 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm about to buy a house. I think the house 816 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 2: was like eighty eight thousand dollars and I'm going to 817 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 2: buy this house, and uh, you're not going to fire me, 818 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: are you? What's you supposed to say to that? Looking back, 819 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:43,080 Speaker 2: because if he was. 820 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 3: Said he was like, I feel like it's a pretty 821 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,040 Speaker 3: good time. And I'm like, you're not really giving me 822 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 3: an answer. Yeah, but yeah, why are you thinking about that? 823 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I didn't even remember I was 824 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: thinking about it till just now. But I I don't know, 825 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: maybe because I was listening, Who knows I listened to 826 00:34:57,600 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: my money meditation, So maybe. 827 00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: Listened to a meditat about money, told you guys, that's meditation. 828 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's more subliminal messages like I'm more so here, 829 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: I'll play you some I'm more so listening to like 830 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, water flowing or bird chirping, and then underneath 831 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: there's someone's whispering you are good with yours. 832 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: That sounds like to say by the Bell episode where 833 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 2: Zach Morris wanted to get a ready. 834 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 9: To fall great, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 835 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 2: There are a couple of things I can bring up 836 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 2: that you guys listen to that I find to be entertaining. 837 00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 2: And I didn't know this, but to play your money meditation, 838 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:33,720 Speaker 2: I'll play. 839 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: You So this is what it sounds like when I'm 840 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: listening to it, right, that's all you hear, Okay. So 841 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: then towards the end, it gives you a peek into 842 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 1: what you've been hearing underneath the sound. 843 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 3: So they are playing stuf underneath the sounds like subliminally. 844 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: This is how you know I'm getting close to the 845 00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: end because it starts to slow down and then you'll 846 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: hear a whisper it's coming. Can you hear it? I'll 847 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: have to turn it up. My daughter did this thing 848 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: where she like. 849 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 3: What does it say? You need to tell us what 850 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 3: it says. 851 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: Ah, I'll tell you specifically what she says. It says 852 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: to listen with headphones. But okay, she's whispering you are 853 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:26,840 Speaker 1: money magnet. 854 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, keep going. 855 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: You were grateful for the ways money finds you. You 856 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: manage your money. 857 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's funny that they're subliminally putting that in 858 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 2: and then finally at the end admitting what they've said 859 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 2: to you. 860 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 3: And what if what if you were to hear it 861 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 3: and you listened for like two hours at the end, 862 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 3: it was like, kill three people, kill three people, And 863 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 3: the whole time it's been saying kill three people, not. 864 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you got it. They say to when you're 865 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,720 Speaker 1: listening to something subliminally, like right now, I'm just listening 866 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,319 Speaker 1: to it through my phone, but you have to have 867 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,959 Speaker 1: the headphones in so that you hear it. Says listen 868 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:20,760 Speaker 1: with headphones to receive the benefit of the binural beats. 869 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 9: The word uh by neural b I N A U 870 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 9: R A L E. 871 00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 3: Would you spell out see it? 872 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:34,239 Speaker 1: And then it gives you affirmations you can read through Okay, 873 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: let's see. 874 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: It's an audio stimulation where two slightly different tones are 875 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 2: played into each ear, so it's playing to h creating 876 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 2: an auditory illusion of a third tone. 877 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,279 Speaker 3: Perl Jam has an album called that Dude, What the 878 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:45,919 Speaker 3: heck are you into? 879 00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: Any No, I'm not. I think I had such fear 880 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: of money, so who knows if this is. 881 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 3: Really talking about the money. 882 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, you found a thing that's like 883 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,799 Speaker 2: playing two different voices in your head that sounds like 884 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: a third and it's you're not even hearing it. You're 885 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 2: hearing a water but they're secretly playing. What if you 886 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,919 Speaker 2: don't even know what they're secretly saying? And they never 887 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 2: admitted at the end, But it's like subscribe to our program, 888 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 2: but that part never. 889 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 1: Is shared therapy. Cap makes fun of me because she 890 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 1: said that because I pay money for this. 891 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 3: More for money on our program. 892 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, She's like, you pay monthly for this app that 893 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 1: like gives you. But I can do that's just under 894 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: wealth and prosperity. I can do self development, relationships, business 895 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: growth and expansion, health and wellness, Like you can pick 896 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 1: a category, but that one's I like to listen to 897 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 1: the money one because I had such a fear of 898 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: money for so long, mostly because of my dad, and 899 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to unlearn a lot of my subconscious thoughts 900 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 1: about money. So this is one of the ways. And 901 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: I listen to it like when I'm going to bed, 902 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: like when I'm in a state of sleep, because they 903 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: say when you're winding down, your brain goes into more 904 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: of a delta mode, and that's when you want subliminals 905 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: because it can it's a different wavelength your brain is on. 906 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: That's that part of science that I know. This sounds cuckoo. 907 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 3: But no, not cuckoo. I just about thirty seconds ago 908 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 3: checked out. 909 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but. 910 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 3: But mostly no, mostly you kept us going okay, So 911 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 3: then yeah, I'm. 912 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 1: Just letting you know. I don't know. I'm just trying to. 913 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 4: You know. 914 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: That particular one is called money magnetism. 915 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 2: The other thing that somebody listens to is Eddye. He 916 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: listens to like hip hop Bible. 917 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:23,760 Speaker 5: Yeah. 918 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:24,600 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 919 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 7: It's a Bible app and you can do different kind 920 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 7: of versions of it, so you can have like traditional like. 921 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,880 Speaker 3: It sounds like an apostle, like do you have it? 922 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, Because because Eddie was listened to the other day 923 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 2: and I was like, what are you listening to? 924 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 3: And he was like the Bible. And the guy was like, yo, 925 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 3: to check it out. You had Rick Joseph. Not that bad. 926 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 3: It's not that bad. 927 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 7: But they use normal words, right, like normal words like yeah, 928 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,759 Speaker 7: Jesus was bored, so he like hung out the river and. 929 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: He got bored. 930 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 3: He's just he's it's exampling example example. 931 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 6: Rivers of Babylon. He set and wept as we thought 932 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 6: of Jerusalem. We put away our harps. 933 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 7: I mean this Old Testament, it's probably not going to 934 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,879 Speaker 7: be so let me see. 935 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 3: That's what I was listening. I was listening to Old 936 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 3: Testament test with a beat. Yeah we need a little 937 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 3: more possessed was spoken word. Yeah kind of, but like yeah, 938 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,839 Speaker 3: I did. I did have one that had a beat. No, 939 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 3: I know that's the one I heard. I don't know 940 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 3: where that was. You know who was right? You know 941 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 3: who was wrong? It wasn't Matthew, Mark, Mark Luke or Dawn. 942 00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 3: And I was like, dang, dude, play that. 943 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: Uh. 944 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,919 Speaker 3: It started with like that's what Eddie's listening to. Yeah, 945 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,719 Speaker 3: I can't find it right now. 946 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 2: But and then also sublimely, it goes spend more money, 947 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,799 Speaker 2: spend more money. I went to acupuncture yesterday because I'm 948 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 2: trying to do anything possible to sleep and sleep better. 949 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 3: I don't sleep well. 950 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 2: This has been the worst season two years of my 951 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 2: life when it comes to sleep, and sleep is so 952 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,919 Speaker 2: important and I've done everything. I have the perfect bed. 953 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 2: I'm trying to my sleep hygiene. That's now a thing. 954 00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,960 Speaker 2: And so I went to get acupuncture yesterday. And I 955 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,720 Speaker 2: also I can sleep in the daytime, it's just nighttime. 956 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 2: And so it's a couple of things. One, I think 957 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 2: it's anxiety because I wake up in the middle of the night, 958 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 2: like because I don't feel I have anxiety in the daytime. 959 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 2: I never felt I had anxiety. I'm like, anxiety, I 960 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 2: don't have that, But I think it manifests itself at 961 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 2: night because I'm so focused, worried, dedicated to what's happening 962 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 2: the next day. But anxiety is like trying to predict 963 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 2: the future, which you can't do. 964 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 3: And so I'm like, I got that. 965 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 2: And then I kind of have some still PTSD stuff, 966 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,760 Speaker 2: some safety stuff from back. 967 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 3: In the day. 968 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,759 Speaker 2: I got jumped at work, I got you know, held 969 00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: at gunpoint at a work event. If I have a 970 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 2: house broken into, so a lot of that stuff, the 971 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 2: safet stuff still happens where I've got to go. 972 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 3: And then I take pictures. 973 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 2: Now of when I lock the door, so I don't 974 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 2: have to like go back and retrace it, because I 975 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 2: have pictures on my phone every single time I lock 976 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 2: all the doors. So all my pictures in my phone 977 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 2: at night are like nine door locks. And so cause 978 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 2: I used to have to get up if I couldn't 979 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: remember me locking every single door, because I would go 980 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,520 Speaker 2: back to my head and go remember, remember, remember, Now 981 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,160 Speaker 2: I take a picture every single time I lock the door, 982 00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,000 Speaker 2: so I know, I look my phone, all right, got 983 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 2: nine there, They're all locked. 984 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 3: Don't have to get back up. 985 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 2: So I'm doing all this stuff because it's anxiety meets 986 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 2: kind of PTSD. 987 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 3: There's a lot of letters. 988 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,440 Speaker 2: And so tried accupuncture yesterday, and I've tried acupuncture for 989 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 2: injuries before, but never Eastern medicine for uh, you know, 990 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 2: psychological issues. 991 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,799 Speaker 3: And so I go in, we have a little talk. 992 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 3: I lay down. 993 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 2: She puts a couple of needles in my foot, a 994 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 2: couple of needles in my side. She does like she's like, 995 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,680 Speaker 2: pull your shirt up, and I'm like, oh man, I 996 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: want to touch my stomach. That's not my that's not 997 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 2: my grossest part. 998 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 3: You know. 999 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,279 Speaker 2: It's like and also have a scar there with scar 1000 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: tissue and so but I whatever I'm in don't need 1001 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 2: to be self conscious. 1002 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,560 Speaker 3: Uh. So she puts those in me and then she 1003 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 3: shuts three in my ear. Let's hurt, no, but but 1004 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 3: you feel them going in a couple, but they don't hurt. 1005 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 5: You're like so le little holes. Like when they take 1006 00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 5: them out, like you don't have. 1007 00:42:58,360 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: A little like it's so temy. 1008 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. So they're long because they don't want to lose them. 1009 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 5: Oh that's probably good. 1010 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, And they have little things on the end of them. 1011 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 3: They forget to take one. It was like a ribbon 1012 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 3: on the end, so they know it is. 1013 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,239 Speaker 2: So she's like, okay, she put like seven in me. 1014 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 2: Seven eight, I'm not sure. And then she's like, okay, 1015 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna leave you here for like thirty minutes, 1016 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 2: and she walked out and then she walked in like 1017 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 2: thirty seconds later, and I was like, wait what, I 1018 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 2: fell asleep like that. 1019 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 1: You see remember that one time I missed a podcast 1020 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: because I was at acupuncture. Now you see how easy 1021 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: that happened, but. 1022 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,919 Speaker 3: You already have no problems sleeping during the day. 1023 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 2: Yes, and I would have had an alarm and I 1024 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: wouldn't have gone if I had something right afterward. Yeah, okay, 1025 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,400 Speaker 2: I finished a podcast. We had just finished the podcast 1026 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 2: with John Morgan. 1027 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:36,680 Speaker 1: Well, good for you. 1028 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,719 Speaker 3: You went after I went responsibly, and. 1029 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 5: I think you forgot about your podcast. It wasn't that 1030 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 5: you overslept it. 1031 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: I just had no idea I was going to lay 1032 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: there for two hours, but he said that he thought 1033 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: my body needed it, and I was. 1034 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,960 Speaker 2: Like, well, okay, that's not of that person to just 1035 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 2: to go. Your body needs two hours, even though we 1036 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 2: haven't discussed two hours, because who knows. 1037 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 3: What you have whatever. So I feel like that story 1038 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 3: probably isn't super accurate. 1039 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: It is accurate. 1040 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 3: He just let you sleep for two hours without you saying. 1041 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: All I know is like you went to sleep like that. 1042 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 5: Well, she walked back in. 1043 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 3: I was like, that was it. She was like, you've 1044 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 3: been asleep for thirty eight minutes. 1045 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:10,320 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 1046 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:11,520 Speaker 9: Yeah, so that's great. 1047 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 3: I fell asleep in fifteen seconds. 1048 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: So can she come over and do that to you 1049 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: right before bed? Maybe that's interesting. 1050 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 4: I don't know. 1051 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 5: Your wife would like that. 1052 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 3: I don't know, don't I don't know. I don't think so. 1053 00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: Oh well, because it sounds like it helped you fall 1054 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: asleep quickly. 1055 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 3: Also went to her office, so but no, yeah, I 1056 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,319 Speaker 3: fell asleep. I laid there. 1057 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 2: She was like, you can turn on a podcast or 1058 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 2: she goes a lot of our people listen to money meditation. 1059 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 2: But I was like, no, good, I'm just gonna lay 1060 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 2: here for a minute. I needed to like get my 1061 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:42,400 Speaker 2: I had. 1062 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 3: Some thought working to do anyway about work. 1063 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,359 Speaker 2: Literally, I remember going, yeah, we do that, and then 1064 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 2: she's walked back in the room and I was out. 1065 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 3: I don't know if that was it, if I was 1066 00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 3: just super tired or a mixture boat or what it. 1067 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 1: Was, but yeah, well that's awesome. Sounds like it did 1068 00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: what it was supposed to do. 1069 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,000 Speaker 2: I've had acupuncture before, we get mostly for injury, and 1070 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 2: I didn't have the greatest exp with it. It wasn't 1071 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 2: a bad experience, but I didn't really feel like it 1072 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 2: had helped. But I probably didn't do it as much 1073 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 2: as I should have. 1074 00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you have to be consistent. 1075 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,239 Speaker 3: So anyway, that was it. Is there anything we can 1076 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 3: do for your therapy your. 1077 00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: Trauma absolutely in my life easier. Yeah, Like, well, come in, 1078 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 2: greet me with a smile, maybe some breakfast, Okay, a 1079 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,440 Speaker 2: little shoulder rub, like after each segment, one of you 1080 00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 2: guys go back to me, a little neck rub. 1081 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 3: Individual you could take time, Okay, start with lunchbox, We'll 1082 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 3: do that. 1083 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,520 Speaker 5: I'm out on that. 1084 00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. 1085 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,399 Speaker 7: So uh because like I'm doing therapy with my son 1086 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 7: or whatever, and the you know, the therapist is like, 1087 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,560 Speaker 7: let's work on the parents first, because I'm like, no, 1088 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 7: but I don't have the problem. 1089 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 3: Oh whoa, whoa, whoa. 1090 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,960 Speaker 7: That is the problem, right right, So that was my 1091 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 7: first reaction, like well but he's like no, no, no, like 1092 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 7: you you have to work on how you treat the 1093 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,080 Speaker 7: person with trauma because you may be doing the wrong things, 1094 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 7: you know, to trigger certain things. 1095 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 3: And I'm like this is amazing. 1096 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 7: And the whole time he's talking, he's talking about my son, 1097 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 7: but I'm thinking about Bobby. So I'm like, all right, like, 1098 00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:00,879 Speaker 7: what can we. 1099 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 1: Do that's a problem. 1100 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:05,400 Speaker 2: That problem? No, because his hit your son, I'm assuming 1101 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,280 Speaker 2: your adopted son, Yes, had a lot of similar issues 1102 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 2: very child that I had as a child, so very. 1103 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 3: Similar and you know what they were. They were unfair 1104 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 3: and making that joke about it here. 1105 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 7: Yeah, you walk with you, man, So what can we do? 1106 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 7: You think tell to me not the back row? Like, yeah, 1107 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 7: what else can we do? 1108 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 3: Nothing? 1109 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 2: Because it's not based on you guys, but we are 1110 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 2: your people now. But there's a reason my therapist says, hey, bro, 1111 00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 2: be late, and I'm like, I'm like no, He's like, 1112 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 2: be late because you will realize if you're late a 1113 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 2: few times, the whole world doesn't come crashing down. That's 1114 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 2: the first step in all of your struggles. You think, 1115 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,120 Speaker 2: because you've had success regimented, the only way you can 1116 00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 2: have success is regimented success. And you have built such 1117 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 2: a regiment that you think that is the only way 1118 00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,600 Speaker 2: to do it, and you have built an unhealthy regiment 1119 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 2: because you must stay to it regardless of how your health. 1120 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: Is well since you've been advised to do that. How 1121 00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:54,560 Speaker 1: many times have you been late? 1122 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 3: Zero? I've tried. 1123 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 5: I got here. 1124 00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,520 Speaker 3: I got here once only like five minutes early. But 1125 00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,200 Speaker 3: that's late early still. But that was pushing it. 1126 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: I know. But don't you think if you're paying a 1127 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,880 Speaker 1: professional to give you advice, you should try to try it? 1128 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 2: Out and it's resonated with me, and I've thought about 1129 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 2: it and I haven't not tried it. One morning, I 1130 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,400 Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I'm gonna set my alarm 1131 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:19,320 Speaker 2: a little later. The problem is, my alarm never wakes 1132 00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 2: me up. Maybe once every two months do I make 1133 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 2: it to my alarm because I wake up forty five 1134 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:29,120 Speaker 2: minutes an hour before my alarm like this, Yeah, oh god, Okay, 1135 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 2: well I got it today. What's today the time? Okay, 1136 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 2: we're gonna be scheduled this, okay, got it's. 1137 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 3: And then I'm up. 1138 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,839 Speaker 2: So I set my alarm later, even though I never 1139 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 2: got to it, as a gesture to myself of I'm 1140 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 2: going to in case it happens, give you a little 1141 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 2: more lead weight. So yeah, I'm taking small steps toward it. 1142 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 2: But yeah, there's nothing you can do because it's built within. 1143 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want us to be later or anything. 1144 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 3: We can be late for you, you guys, being late will 1145 00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 3: make it worse. 1146 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll give me anxiety, anger, upsetness. 1147 00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 3: But you'll also know that the world's not going to 1148 00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 3: fall apart if you're late. 1149 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 2: I'm fine. I could do the whole show with none 1150 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,319 Speaker 2: of you here, right, right, but I can do that. Oh, 1151 00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 2: but you think that if you're late the show will 1152 00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:07,960 Speaker 2: not go on. 1153 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 1: But you said if we're late and it makes it worse. 1154 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're late, I'm like, why are you freaking late? 1155 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: You're well, yeah, I don't want to be late. 1156 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,759 Speaker 3: I'm definitely not gonna be late. There's only been one 1157 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 3: person that's been late at all the past two years. 1158 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 3: I mean sure, are you sure? 1159 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1160 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 3: Are you positive? Yeah? 1161 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 5: Okay, Morgan? 1162 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:25,960 Speaker 3: Is it you? 1163 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: There was one day I got a time wrong, but 1164 00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't think I was late. 1165 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,280 Speaker 3: Ever, that's correct. 1166 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 5: I know it wouldn't me so. 1167 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,920 Speaker 1: So I don't think so. 1168 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 3: But I don't know Abby. 1169 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:43,720 Speaker 4: Nothing. 1170 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 2: I know of Ray probably tomorrow now had a boy 1171 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 2: definitely not Ray though, definitely not right. 1172 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:50,640 Speaker 3: Okay, who do you guys think? 1173 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:50,880 Speaker 4: It is? 1174 00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:51,360 Speaker 3: One person? 1175 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,440 Speaker 1: Do you know this? 1176 00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:53,040 Speaker 3: Do you know? 1177 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,319 Speaker 1: Bobby? How do you know? 1178 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,279 Speaker 2: I've been attached to it and I've been trying to 1179 00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:00,440 Speaker 2: not attach myself to it. 1180 00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,080 Speaker 1: Who what is it? 1181 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,960 Speaker 2: I've been attached to it, and I've been trying to 1182 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 2: release it and not care about it. 1183 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,680 Speaker 1: And this has happened in the last two years. 1184 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:09,760 Speaker 3: You've been thinking about this for two years man. 1185 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,400 Speaker 1: And you've been trying to release it. We can have 1186 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,440 Speaker 1: a ceremony. You could release. 1187 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:18,080 Speaker 2: It, because I don't think it's fair to everybody else 1188 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:23,440 Speaker 2: when someone else doesn't do and isn't I shouldn't. 1189 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 1: Well, of course not. I mean, but I don't think 1190 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,439 Speaker 1: anybody here is ever No. I intentionally trying to. 1191 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,880 Speaker 3: Okay, Mike, I'm gonna write this down, okay, and I 1192 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:36,960 Speaker 3: want you to see it. And you're looking at you. 1193 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,880 Speaker 4: He's like, correct to mine, I feel like it could be. 1194 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 3: Correct. Correct. 1195 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 2: I don't know. 1196 00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,759 Speaker 5: Ah, oh, I know what it is? 1197 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,240 Speaker 1: Is it you? 1198 00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 5: No, it's you? 1199 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 3: What I do you? 1200 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:54,880 Speaker 5: It was Amy? 1201 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,359 Speaker 3: I'm not saying who it is. And I'm just trying 1202 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,800 Speaker 3: to release it's what time? How do you release it? 1203 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 3: If you don't say it? 1204 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,640 Speaker 1: Wait, you've been holding on to something I did for 1205 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 1: nobody said, he's saying it? What did I do? 1206 00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:08,760 Speaker 5: It's Amy? 1207 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:09,120 Speaker 3: For sure? 1208 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:09,359 Speaker 2: Like? 1209 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:10,880 Speaker 5: Amy? 1210 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:11,719 Speaker 1: What did I do? 1211 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:14,240 Speaker 5: You know? 1212 00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 3: I don't challenging her to find it. 1213 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm challenging you to find it, Amy, Like I'm. 1214 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 2: Not saying it was I'm not even saying it was you. 1215 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,560 Speaker 2: But if it is, you find it. 1216 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe you need to release it. 1217 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 3: Maybe you need to. 1218 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 1: Address probably had to release it already because otherwise it 1219 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: would keep me up at night. 1220 00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 3: So I'm not even saying it is you, by the way, 1221 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 3: but if it was. 1222 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,440 Speaker 1: Me, I'm telling you I would have to release it 1223 00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:41,359 Speaker 1: because it would loop in my head over and over. 1224 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 1: And I do a lot of brain therapy too, and 1225 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,840 Speaker 1: I probably was like, hey, there's this one thing I 1226 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 1: was late. I need you don't wipe it from my 1227 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:53,319 Speaker 1: brain because I would feel horrible about that. 1228 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 3: Are you sure it's Amy? Would you bet money it 1229 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 3: t is? 1230 00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 2: But like, okay, this seventy dollars up here? Would you 1231 00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 2: bet seventy dollars? 1232 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:03,920 Speaker 3: Okay? 1233 00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:05,280 Speaker 1: Oh wow, he's confident. 1234 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,280 Speaker 3: So was that a bet? 1235 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:07,399 Speaker 1: Where was it? 1236 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 3: I mean, this is your task. I don't think he 1237 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 3: wants to say anymore. Is your I will say this? 1238 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:15,720 Speaker 3: It was Amy? 1239 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 1: What was it? 1240 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:17,799 Speaker 5: I mean? 1241 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 1: And you've been. 1242 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,120 Speaker 3: Holding mike when I said it time? Now you remember? 1243 00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, think about it. I remember, Amy. I 1244 00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,319 Speaker 3: remember the three times I've been late, like clear as. 1245 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 1: Day, but in the last two years, like I haven't, 1246 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,840 Speaker 1: I know that there was a time where I was 1247 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 1: late ten years ago, real bad, and. 1248 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:39,399 Speaker 3: I shouldn't be as fixated on somebody being a little bit. 1249 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: Late, that this was in the last two years. He 1250 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,839 Speaker 1: said that, Yeah, I know, you're like I. The one 1251 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: I can. 1252 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 3: Remember was okay, it was in the last year. 1253 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,000 Speaker 5: Where Amy maybe don't tell her, don't tell her. 1254 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:57,560 Speaker 3: Morgan, do you know? 1255 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,279 Speaker 5: No, you don't know. How do you guys not know? 1256 00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,120 Speaker 1: Was it in the studio? 1257 00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,240 Speaker 7: I don't worry about other people's like, okay yet problem, 1258 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:12,280 Speaker 7: that's good opp buddy's release. 1259 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:14,520 Speaker 1: There's there is something I'm thinking of. 1260 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 3: But I don't know that this will make you. 1261 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 4: When she got locked in her room, No, no, I 1262 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 4: didn't know. 1263 00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 2: Because if you're late, you have a flat tire. If 1264 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 2: you're late in your yeah account, like life is okay. 1265 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,680 Speaker 2: If life happens, it's absolutely okay. 1266 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,240 Speaker 3: That's the only one I could think. 1267 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:32,880 Speaker 1: About with me getting locked in my bedroom. That was 1268 00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,360 Speaker 1: life happening, tire. 1269 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 5: So, Bobby, are you ready to let it go or no? 1270 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 3: I've mostly let it go. 1271 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: Well, I would like to talk through it so we 1272 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: can let it go. 1273 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 5: You're gonna have to. 1274 00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,359 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to remember, though, because I don't want 1275 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,520 Speaker 2: to bring it and present it. 1276 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 3: Why because it's not worth it. 1277 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 5: Do you know, do you want me to. 1278 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,919 Speaker 1: Present it wouldn't give me a hint. If I knew, 1279 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,879 Speaker 1: I would say, honestly, guys, this is one of those 1280 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 1: things that maybe I had to be like. 1281 00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 3: And I think that's great. 1282 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: Maybe I like this too, shall pass? Like I certainly 1283 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 1: you know what? 1284 00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 3: I released it? Hold on, release sick it? I can't 1285 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,799 Speaker 3: really it could America Americans? 1286 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: Okay, what what can you tell me this? What was 1287 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 1: my reason? 1288 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 4: Or was it? 1289 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,960 Speaker 2: Like I didn't have a good one. I love that 1290 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,399 Speaker 2: it wasn't a good reason because I know exactly. 1291 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 3: Everything behind it, and it was not a good reason. 1292 00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:33,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd say it wasn't a good reason either. 1293 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,919 Speaker 3: Release. Ay, you can do this? 1294 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:41,680 Speaker 1: No, I can't. 1295 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:42,360 Speaker 3: You can't. 1296 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:42,480 Speaker 6: No. 1297 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,760 Speaker 7: I'm like, I'll never forget the time me and Lunchbox 1298 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,680 Speaker 7: thought about bailing his car on the bridge because we're 1299 00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 7: gonna be late. 1300 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 5: Like you gotta remember. 1301 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: That one time I got a flat tyrant and called 1302 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: you Eddie and I'm like, have you hit the highway yet? 1303 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: And You're like no, I said, pull over, pick me up. 1304 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,680 Speaker 1: I got a flat tire and I just left. I 1305 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 1: abandoned my car on the side of the road so 1306 00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,920 Speaker 1: that I wasn't going to be late. 1307 00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 8: Literally, me and Eddie We're going to run to the 1308 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,920 Speaker 8: convention center. It was like a C C M A 1309 00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:06,800 Speaker 8: faster or whatever. 1310 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,000 Speaker 5: And I was like, did we just got to leave 1311 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,320 Speaker 5: the car? There's too much trying the bridge. 1312 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting nauseous. So can you just tell me, like, 1313 00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:16,240 Speaker 1: just tell me it's making it? No, it's not, okay, 1314 00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: you literally said not. 1315 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 3: In any way. 1316 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 2: I've just been attached to it a bit, but I 1317 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,040 Speaker 2: haven't been like holding it. It's not in my guts 1318 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,160 Speaker 2: and I'm not. I'm not upset about it. I if no, No, 1319 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,680 Speaker 2: if anything, I'm trying to allow myself to grow beyond it, 1320 00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,040 Speaker 2: which is kind of why it doesn't matter. 1321 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: So was I just like later or did I give 1322 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 1: you a heads up? 1323 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,399 Speaker 5: You were just late? Yeah? 1324 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 3: Heads up? 1325 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,120 Speaker 5: Man weird. 1326 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,520 Speaker 3: He knows for sure how he's talking about it. 1327 00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:50,760 Speaker 1: He knows was in an event. 1328 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 3: We shall say nothing nothing more. 1329 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:57,640 Speaker 8: Nomber he's not there, heard start talking about it. 1330 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: He was out, Okay, gosh, just say this is we 1331 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: do have to go though, this is amazing. 1332 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:04,200 Speaker 3: We have to go where I have to go from this. 1333 00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:05,319 Speaker 5: Oh, you don't want to be late. 1334 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:06,399 Speaker 3: I don't want to be late. 1335 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,280 Speaker 1: Okay, well, now now I need a book acupuncture because 1336 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: now I have the anxiety years ago. 1337 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 2: Good myself releasing it because it doesn't matter. Let me 1338 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 2: let me work through my own problems. 1339 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,560 Speaker 1: Okay, can y'all just say what it is? Please? 1340 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,760 Speaker 3: Hey Eddie, let me tell you what it is. Okay, 1341 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:33,319 Speaker 3: Maybe maybe my memory will come yeah, oh I remember this? 1342 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 4: What? Oh? 1343 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:35,319 Speaker 3: I remember this? 1344 00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:36,439 Speaker 1: Where was this? 1345 00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:39,799 Speaker 3: Maybe it's weird? And do you remember going? Like what 1346 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 3: the Yeah? 1347 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I ain't scuba remembers. 1348 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 3: But I feel like she's gonna have an excuse. 1349 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 2: I know for a fact. Excuse does not work. Okay, 1350 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:51,319 Speaker 2: if there is an excuse, but it doesn't matter to 1351 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 2: me because a maybe tomorrow think about it. 1352 00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,440 Speaker 1: Okay, so you don't mean to sleep tonight. 1353 00:55:58,480 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 3: Cool, you get a bonus if you think it. If 1354 00:55:59,880 --> 00:56:02,200 Speaker 3: you're remember it tomorrow, you're going to sleep tonight. All right, 1355 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 3: thank you? Everybody. We do have to go. Uh do 1356 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,720 Speaker 3: you have an episode of your podcast up today? 1357 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 1: What is today? Yes? 1358 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 3: Thursday? 1359 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,399 Speaker 1: Yes, we have a couch Talks. A listener wrote in 1360 00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: because a male supervisor said she probably shouldn't do part 1361 00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,560 Speaker 1: of her job because she's a woman, or he didn't 1362 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 1: want her to be assigned to because he is a 1363 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,920 Speaker 1: woman and she didn't know how to talk with him. 1364 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: So Kat, my therapist co host, she gave her some 1365 00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:29,080 Speaker 1: advice on how to have a confrontation with him. 1366 00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 3: A carefrontation. That's what we're having, a confrontation because that. 1367 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,719 Speaker 1: Doesn't feel like it feels like more of like a subtle. 1368 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,919 Speaker 2: Literally no no, no, no conversation at all. It literally does 1369 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,319 Speaker 2: not bother I'm attached to it, but. 1370 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,080 Speaker 3: It doesn't bother me on. 1371 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: Something for release. 1372 00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 3: All right, we have to go. We will see you 1373 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 3: guys tomorrow. By everybody,