Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Calls with Dean Blandino, a production of
Speaker 1: I Heart Radio. We've got a lot to get to.
Speaker 1: We've got a great show, so much from both college
Speaker 1: football and the NFL over the weekend. We've got a
Speaker 1: great interview with Fox Sports insider j Glazer coming up
Speaker 1: later on. But let's get right to it. I'd like
Speaker 1: to welcome Travis and Joe. Joe the audio guy. How's
Speaker 1: the audio sound, Joe, how are we doing today? Looking
Speaker 1: great so far? I mean everything sounds amazing. Okay, looking
Speaker 1: great for audio. Great job, Joe. Alright, So let's get
Speaker 1: to NFL Week two, and I want to talk about
Speaker 1: we got a lot of tweets, a lot of questions
Speaker 1: about the end of the Denver Chicago game, and and
Speaker 1: so I just want to set the table a little
Speaker 1: bit because there's a sequence of plays that take place.
Speaker 1: Denver is behind, they score a touchdown, and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be down by one, okay, and which I love. Vic
Speaker 1: Fangio says, you know what, first time head coach, I'm
Speaker 1: going for two. I'm going for the win at home.
Speaker 1: Right typically at home, you you tend to go. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play for overtime, but no, I'm going for
Speaker 1: the win. And they line up to go for two
Speaker 1: from the two yard line and they get a delay
Speaker 1: of game penalty. Play clock runs out, so that penalty. Now,
Speaker 1: the way the rule reads is you can have that
Speaker 1: penalty enforced. The team that's attempting the try gets the option.
Speaker 1: They can enforce that penalty from the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: the two yard line, or the line of scrimmage for
Speaker 1: the other try spot, which is the fifteen. So then
Speaker 1: VIC says, all right, you know what, Now, if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna move back to the seven, my chances of making
Speaker 1: making that play diminished greatly. We're gonna kick an extra point,
Speaker 1: So that five yard penalty is enforced from the fifteen
Speaker 1: yard line to the twenty. Does that make sense to
Speaker 1: you guys? So far? Okay? So now Denver lines up
Speaker 1: from the twenty and they're gonna kick an extra point
Speaker 1: and they miss it, but the Bears are offside. So again,
Speaker 1: the team that's attempting the try gets the option. You
Speaker 1: can have that penalty enforced from the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: or the other try spot. So the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: was what the twenty or the other try spot, which
Speaker 1: would be the two. So the five yard delay of
Speaker 1: game penalty doesn't carry over multiple tries. So what Denver
Speaker 1: then did is they said, Okay, now we're going to
Speaker 1: go from the two yard line to the one yard
Speaker 1: line and we're going to attempt a two point try,
Speaker 1: which of course they got. So that's the rule. The
Speaker 1: theory behind the rule is, you don't want to allow
Speaker 1: the defense. Look, an extra point from the fifteen is
Speaker 1: a pretty accurate play. You know it's accurate, So you
Speaker 1: don't want to allow the defense to continue to push
Speaker 1: the envelope, potentially try to block the kick, not get
Speaker 1: called for offside, and what's the worst that could happen
Speaker 1: We get we get a five year penalty that we
Speaker 1: move them up to the tent. They're gonna kick from
Speaker 1: the ten. They're gonna make it anyway. So you make
Speaker 1: that penalty severe to say no, no, no no, that that
Speaker 1: penalty can be enforced from the two yard line and
Speaker 1: now the defense is less incentivized to attempt to push
Speaker 1: the envelope. That's the theory I think. I think this
Speaker 1: will be discussed as a rules change. It doesn't happen
Speaker 1: very often, but maybe you do something like, once you
Speaker 1: make your choice, you're locked in. So you're going for two,
Speaker 1: you're locked in. If there's a penalty, you can't go
Speaker 1: you know, you can't go to the the other try spot.
Speaker 1: I think that's that's a potential because I don't I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people didn't like the outcome there.
Speaker 1: They felt that the five yard penalty should have been enforced,
Speaker 1: the one against Denver. But the problem is how many
Speaker 1: times you're gonna carry it over? It becomes a math problem,
Speaker 1: gets the the argument. One of the things people argue
Speaker 1: about is the NFL rules are too complicated, right, so
Speaker 1: you try to simplify it, but it's never going to
Speaker 1: be perfectly equitable. So what do you want perfect equity
Speaker 1: or you want simplicity? And that's that balance. Was that
Speaker 1: the first time that that's happened. It's the first time
Speaker 1: it's happened since the try went to the fit since
Speaker 1: we had two drug spots, And so I think that
Speaker 1: always is going to be something now that generates discussion. Alright,
Speaker 1: So so then we get into they get the two
Speaker 1: point try, Chicago gets the ball back, and now they're
Speaker 1: going to attempt to drive down the field and win
Speaker 1: the game, you get a rough in the passer called
Speaker 1: against against Nick Chubb and Bradley Chubb, which which there's
Speaker 1: two Chubbs. Nick is Cleveland and Bradley is Okay. So
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb gets pedalized rough in the past or landing
Speaker 1: on with the body weight. This was a big deal
Speaker 1: last year. It didn't look all that egregious. It looked
Speaker 1: more like Chubb was getting blocked at the time, and
Speaker 1: the and the tackle I think it was the tackle
Speaker 1: had his hands on Chub, and I think Chubb. It
Speaker 1: looked more like just the follow through of a conventional tackle.
Speaker 1: But obviously, look, you can't stuff the quarterback into the ground.
Speaker 1: The referee felt it was enough, So now you have
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty. And then at the very end,
Speaker 1: Bears complete a pass. Receiver goes down, he's touched with
Speaker 1: one second on the clock. And then the issue became
Speaker 1: did the did the quarterback Trabinsky? Did he call time
Speaker 1: out with one second on the clock. The crew got
Speaker 1: together and determined that he did. If you watch the replay,
Speaker 1: you can see Trabinsky in the background immediately signaling time
Speaker 1: out as the receiver goes to the ground. As a
Speaker 1: referee with the referees are taught in that situation. The
Speaker 1: pass is complete, you moved down the field and you
Speaker 1: lock on the quarterback. You stay with the quarterback because
Speaker 1: you're anticipating. Look, you know they're out of time outs.
Speaker 1: You know they're gonna want to call. You know they
Speaker 1: have one time out left. You know they're gonna call
Speaker 1: it at the end of the play. So you stay
Speaker 1: with the quarterback and you and you watch, so immediately
Speaker 1: when Trabiskie signals, the referee should be signaling immediately. And
Speaker 1: that's ultimately what they decided that when the signal was made,
Speaker 1: there was one second and it did look like that
Speaker 1: was the proper ruling. Can they can they pre call
Speaker 1: the time out like in the NBA where they go,
Speaker 1: right when we get the ball, we're calling time out.
Speaker 1: They can't pre call. They can say that, and they
Speaker 1: will say that, but they physically have to signal. They
Speaker 1: physically have to signal. They'll say, look, we're gonna take
Speaker 1: a time out, but it's still you still have to
Speaker 1: you know, Um, you obviously can't see me, but I'm
Speaker 1: doing the time out signal and uh. And so that's
Speaker 1: what happened. And then and then the Bear's new kicker,
Speaker 1: Paniero Pinero Bread whatever it is, kicks the fifty three
Speaker 1: yard field goal to win the game. I've I haven't
Speaker 1: seen a football player that excited after a game. I
Speaker 1: mean he went he I mean that that was the
Speaker 1: time of his life. It's guess what, It's all downhill
Speaker 1: from here. Okay, it's all because where can he go?
Speaker 1: I mean, he could win a Super Bowl, he could,
Speaker 1: but no, but this season he's not gonna have. You know,
Speaker 1: how many game winning kicks fifty three yards is he
Speaker 1: gonna make. He's gonna miss a few. He's gonna miss
Speaker 1: a few. So you know, we have a big, big
Speaker 1: Bears fan in the studio and he's our goldie, he's
Speaker 1: our audio guy. So I gotta listen. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: work and I gotta listen to him, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: living and dying with this game. So anyway, but that
Speaker 1: that's what happened in the Bears Broncos game. So interesting situation.
Speaker 1: Let's shift gears and go to uh STS fumble Saints
Speaker 1: I I do. I I feel bad for Saints fans
Speaker 1: and and I think the Saints are obviously, Look, this
Speaker 1: is three games in a row, and I think this
Speaker 1: is a situation where, look, this has happened before you have.
Speaker 1: Jared Goff gets hit, the ball comes loose, Cameron Jordan
Speaker 1: picks it up and and returns it for what looks
Speaker 1: like a touchdown, and the referee rules the past incomplete.
Speaker 1: So so they kill the play. They're blowing the whistle.
Speaker 1: And the theory is there that once the whistle is
Speaker 1: blown and the play is ruled dead, that you can't
Speaker 1: advance the football. And so coach Payton had to challenge
Speaker 1: to play it was a fumble and uh, and so
Speaker 1: the Saints got the ball, but they didn't get the
Speaker 1: advance and they didn't get the touchdown. And so that's
Speaker 1: a big play. Look, the game ended seven and nine,
Speaker 1: but that's a momentum play obviously. Who knows how it
Speaker 1: would have it would have ended had that had that
Speaker 1: call been been correct. But yeah, Breeze goes out and uh,
Speaker 1: and he's out. I guess what's six day, eight weeks now?
Speaker 1: Is that the was that the Uh? Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: the report was in its thumb and his throwing hand obviously,
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be significant. So we lose Breeze and
Speaker 1: we lose Ben Roethlisberger on the same Sunday. Not not
Speaker 1: a great not a great day. Um in that in
Speaker 1: that regard, but um, look, that's happened before the referee.
Speaker 1: You you always tell the referees if in that situation,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna if you see it and you're sure
Speaker 1: it's a pass, rule it a pass. So this is
Speaker 1: the opposite of the Bengals play we talked about last week. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: The Bengals play looked more like a pass and it
Speaker 1: was a pass, but they ruled a fumble because the
Speaker 1: referee wasn't sure. And I think that's the that's the philosophy,
Speaker 1: whereas you don't want to officiate to replay and you
Speaker 1: want to rule on what you see, but if you're
Speaker 1: not sure, let it go and replay can always bring
Speaker 1: it back. And unfortunately this one against the Saints. Look,
Speaker 1: there's no conspiracy. It just happens sometimes sometimes teams are
Speaker 1: on the wrong end of these calls. Over time, it
Speaker 1: tends to even out. It may even out during that
Speaker 1: same season, it may even out over the course of
Speaker 1: several seasons. But the STS fan Saints karma for bounty Gate, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not gonna go there. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: water under the bridge, Travis. You and your Vikings better,
Speaker 1: you know, keep keep that exactly Travis. Travis is a
Speaker 1: Vikings guy. He's also a Cowboys guy. So I don't
Speaker 1: know how that works. Um, we can talk about that
Speaker 1: another time. We don't have time today. Let's let's talk
Speaker 1: about two plays there. Well, there's there's a play from
Speaker 1: the Vikings Packers game. Stefon Diggs catches a touchdown pass
Speaker 1: and uh and what does he do? He goes to
Speaker 1: the stands in the back of the end zone, takes
Speaker 1: off his helmet and he starts he starts chatting with
Speaker 1: the fans in the end zone. So you cannot take
Speaker 1: The rule is very clear. You can't take your helmet
Speaker 1: off as part of a celebration, as part of a
Speaker 1: confrontation with another player, an opponent, or an official. So
Speaker 1: that's a fact's fifteen yard penalty. What does that mean?
Speaker 1: That means now green Bay can say we want that
Speaker 1: penalty on the try not rule. So this used to
Speaker 1: be only one place you can only put it on
Speaker 1: the kickoff. Now it's the try So what does green
Speaker 1: Bay do? They says well, we want to put it
Speaker 1: on the try. It's a big play, it's it's six team,
Speaker 1: the game ends right and and so this ends up
Speaker 1: being a situation where the thirty three yard kick becomes
Speaker 1: a forty eight yard kick and what happens It gets blocked.
Speaker 1: So what if that was the situation where they had
Speaker 1: to go for two. What if it's seen late in
Speaker 1: the game and now they have to go for two
Speaker 1: and Diggs has that penalty. Now you're attempting a two
Speaker 1: point dry from the seventeen. That's crazy. And when you
Speaker 1: look at the percentages last year, thirty to thirty nine
Speaker 1: field goal se so and that's just the is gonna
Speaker 1: be below se and uh and so your your odds
Speaker 1: dropped dramatically. And that is a big penalty. It's the
Speaker 1: first time we've seen it um in this situation, and
Speaker 1: I think that's something to look for going forward and
Speaker 1: in a critical situation, that penalty. Keep your helmet on, man.
Speaker 1: We talked. We talked about that on the first podcast,
Speaker 1: which we have an air, but before the season started,
Speaker 1: how big of a of a deal that was? What
Speaker 1: could be? And yeah, we did it. We did a
Speaker 1: test podcast in the offseason Joe's bringing that up, which
Speaker 1: it's never going to see the light of day. So
Speaker 1: I don't know why you're talking about that show. But anyway,
Speaker 1: exactly living in the past. Just make sure the audio
Speaker 1: levels are correct and make sure that I'm the correct
Speaker 1: distance from the microphone. Please, thank you. Okay, So um, look,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the two rules that I
Speaker 1: currently I don't like. All Right, I think the NFL
Speaker 1: has two rules that I'm not I'm just not crazy about.
Speaker 1: The one is past in afferance review and the other
Speaker 1: one is the idea that a runner who dives for
Speaker 1: the goal line or for the line the game is
Speaker 1: considered to be giving himself up. And it happened last
Speaker 1: night in the in the Eagles Falcons game in a
Speaker 1: big situation. The Eagles were going for two and uh
Speaker 1: and they end up losing the game by four, So
Speaker 1: those two points are big ruled good on the field
Speaker 1: and uh. And then they rule that so Whence scrambles
Speaker 1: he dives for the goal line, his knee hits the
Speaker 1: ground before he's touched, the ball is short, and then
Speaker 1: it's closest to where the ball breaks the plane before
Speaker 1: he was actually touched. But they ruled a good conversion.
Speaker 1: I don't think they would have been able to overturn
Speaker 1: it under the old rule. But the new rule says,
Speaker 1: if you're diving head first the moment anybody part other
Speaker 1: than the hand or foot touches the ground, independent of
Speaker 1: contact by an opponent, you're down that quarterback, only any runner.
Speaker 1: So for years, the rule was you had to slide
Speaker 1: feed first. We've all seen it, the baseball slide, and
Speaker 1: you give yourself up that way, and you get defensivesplayer protection.
Speaker 1: You can't advance the ball, you can't fumble it. And
Speaker 1: now if you dive head first, you're considered to be
Speaker 1: giving yourself up. And that just seems counterintuitive because it's
Speaker 1: obvious he's not giving himself up. Yeah, you're taking away
Speaker 1: those exciting plays of reaching trying to get into the
Speaker 1: end zone. And that's and that was just it's it's
Speaker 1: troublesome that look. I get safety and I'm all for it,
Speaker 1: but to to to put a guy down when he's
Speaker 1: obviously diving for the goal line, it just doesn't seem
Speaker 1: it just doesn't seem right. And this look, this happened
Speaker 1: to the Bengals last year. Jeff driscoll to back up.
Speaker 1: At the time he was in the game, he dove
Speaker 1: for a touchdown similar type play, ruled a touchdown on
Speaker 1: the field. Replay came back and uh and reversed it
Speaker 1: and uh. And so that's six points off the board.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting and I would hope that the league
Speaker 1: would continue to look at that and maybe maybe make
Speaker 1: a change going forward. Where do they spot the ball
Speaker 1: where he starts to dive. So when you dive head first,
Speaker 1: it's as soon as a body part other than the
Speaker 1: handerfoot touches, where's the ball. So in the instant last night,
Speaker 1: I think it was once his left knee, right or
Speaker 1: left knee, the moment the right knee or left knee
Speaker 1: touches wears the ball, that's that's the spot. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know when he slides feet first, it's where the
Speaker 1: ball is. When a body part again handerfoot doesn't count,
Speaker 1: but chin, calf, knee, Once that body part hits, where's
Speaker 1: the ball And that's where you put it. Okay, the
Speaker 1: second rule that it I look, it's early, but but
Speaker 1: I just don't like where we are with this past
Speaker 1: inference thing. I don't I think we're stopping the game
Speaker 1: we're reviewing plays that that really it seem like very
Speaker 1: subjective calls. And I think the league has done a
Speaker 1: great job with when the call is made on the field.
Speaker 1: They have not overturned one of those, and I think
Speaker 1: the standard is very high and they've been very consistent.
Speaker 1: But but when the call is not made on the field,
Speaker 1: I think we're seeing some plays and we're starting to
Speaker 1: compare them. Right, we had to play in Baltimore where
Speaker 1: the defender played through the receiver's back. It was close.
Speaker 1: It looked like p I. If it had been called
Speaker 1: on the field, it doesn't get picked up in replay.
Speaker 1: But it's not called on the field. It's not created
Speaker 1: and replay. You know, we had a tweet, you know,
Speaker 1: even former former head coach Tony Dungee, you know, and
Speaker 1: and and Travis, why don't you read this tweet because
Speaker 1: I think I think a lot of people it's early,
Speaker 1: but a lot of people are frustrated with this rule.
Speaker 1: I think he feels the same way as as as
Speaker 1: we do. These past interference reviews by NFL fish eating
Speaker 1: are not making any sense. Clear dp I s last
Speaker 1: week not overturned clear push off by Antonio Brown does
Speaker 1: not get overturned, but Minnesota TV gets called back due
Speaker 1: to blocking downfield. Not sure what the standard is right now.
Speaker 1: And and look, this is not this is not an
Speaker 1: indictment on on the decision making from New York in replay.
Speaker 1: This is a tough call. This is a subjective call.
Speaker 1: You're dealing with You're not dealing with the ball touching
Speaker 1: the ground. You're not dealing with the foot touching the sideline.
Speaker 1: You're dealing with contact. Was the ball catchable? Was the
Speaker 1: contact enough to hinder the receiver's ability to to make
Speaker 1: a play on the ball, all of these things, And
Speaker 1: I think we're seeing these plays and I think yesterday
Speaker 1: there was a great example. You had the the Digs
Speaker 1: touchdown prior to him taking his helmet off. He had
Speaker 1: another touchdown that was called back because replay went in,
Speaker 1: stopped the game and created an offensive pass inference foul
Speaker 1: on down Avin Cook for blocking down field before the
Speaker 1: ball was touched. And it was confusing because the referee
Speaker 1: didn't announce the number and he just said there was
Speaker 1: an offensive player. Obviously, we we identified Cook as the
Speaker 1: potential foul, but you watch that play and he's he's
Speaker 1: immediately jammed off the ball. Then he turns. It looks
Speaker 1: like he's trying to run around. He does run into
Speaker 1: a defender. Is he blocking? Is he just standing there?
Speaker 1: Is it clear and obvious? And I think these are
Speaker 1: things that, um, you know, it's not the intent of
Speaker 1: the rule. The intent of the rule was to prevent
Speaker 1: the egregious mistake in the significant situation. You made a
Speaker 1: good point yesterday on the air saying that too. You're like, yes,
Speaker 1: is this past interference. Yeah, you can argue that, but
Speaker 1: this isn't the call that we saw in the NFC Championship.
Speaker 1: And that's where the coaches were at the league meeting.
Speaker 1: The coaches were, let's eliminate the big game changing mistake
Speaker 1: at the end of the game. Let's let's have the
Speaker 1: ability to do that. Now we're looking at past inference
Speaker 1: calls in the first quarter with tim and it's to go,
Speaker 1: and we're and we're analyzing them to the nth degree
Speaker 1: and and this is it's troublesome because then you look
Speaker 1: at perfect example, Steelers Seahawks. You have a play Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson rolls out, he gets hit, heaves the ball down field,
Speaker 1: two defenders, one receiver. There's contact passes incomplete, no call
Speaker 1: on the field. You have two potential fouls on the play.
Speaker 1: Wilson gets crushed du Bud Dupree hits him helmet to helmet,
Speaker 1: leaves his feet, hit him helmet to helmet. Clearly a foul,
Speaker 1: we don't call it on the field, not reviewable. But
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at the potential past deference down field
Speaker 1: where there's some contact. Was he playing the ball, was
Speaker 1: there a grab. We're gonna analyze that. We're gonna make
Speaker 1: that a foul for thirty eight yard penalty when we've
Speaker 1: got a potential player safety issue that they can't look at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they can find the player. Russell leaves the game with
Speaker 1: concussion at that point. It exactly And you know, it's
Speaker 1: one of those things where it was just a great
Speaker 1: illustration of and I truly believe that if you are
Speaker 1: going to make these calls reviewable, start with player safety.
Speaker 1: And and you know, the Eagles and the Seahawks, there
Speaker 1: was a group of teams that proposed a rule in
Speaker 1: the off season to make hits on defenseless players reviewable,
Speaker 1: And I really feel like that is the direction the
Speaker 1: league should have went, and and they should look at
Speaker 1: going forward versus the subjective calls. The college targeting is
Speaker 1: already reviewable. There's a precedent set there, and uh and
Speaker 1: and it's it's more objective to look at helmet to
Speaker 1: helmet contact, forceable contact versus that little grab on the jersey.
Speaker 1: Did that significantly? Hint? Was it a bang bang? Was
Speaker 1: it a yeah? Bangs? Employee? Real time? That looks like
Speaker 1: a bang bang? Play? You look at it, like we
Speaker 1: talked about last week and we talked about in the studio,
Speaker 1: is everything looks like p I in super slow mo?
Speaker 1: You can you can argue almost everything looks like p
Speaker 1: I exactly. And now rules and I'll say this till
Speaker 1: I'm blue in the face, but as are written for
Speaker 1: on field officials to make decisions in real time. And
Speaker 1: now we're administering these rules in replay where you can
Speaker 1: slow it down and you can go frame by frame
Speaker 1: and it changes the standard. Okay, moving on. There was
Speaker 1: a play in the Tampa Carolina game at the end
Speaker 1: of the at the end of the game, and we
Speaker 1: reviewed it for past in deference and it's just interesting
Speaker 1: call in the field was a catch flag down for
Speaker 1: a face mask. And again with this rule, it is
Speaker 1: past in afferience as well, if you grab the face
Speaker 1: mask before the ball arrives at his past inference. By rule,
Speaker 1: it's the one situation there are very few, but it's
Speaker 1: one situation where two fouls can be enforced against the
Speaker 1: same team during the same down. If you commit a
Speaker 1: personal foul that's also pass an inference, then the past
Speaker 1: interference is enforced, and then you tack on the personal foul. Okay,
Speaker 1: So if the past had been ruled incomplete, then yes,
Speaker 1: I understand stopping the game game and making it past
Speaker 1: an inference and then tacking on the face mask. But
Speaker 1: the past was caught, so all we're gonna do is
Speaker 1: tack on the face mask. So we spent three minutes
Speaker 1: looking at whether that was past inference when the result
Speaker 1: of the play was never going to change. And this
Speaker 1: is where we're in this mode of oh no, that's
Speaker 1: past inference. We have to stop the game, not even
Speaker 1: thinking through the ramifications of that. And I think that's
Speaker 1: where again unintended consequence and I think something that we
Speaker 1: just have to look for going forward. UM forces all
Speaker 1: fans to look at these things like we do in
Speaker 1: the studio, like we see a touchdown Okay, it's clean.
Speaker 1: You know the player wasn't down here. You know you
Speaker 1: got across the goal line. But was there any flag
Speaker 1: for for past interference? Now you're looking for and now
Speaker 1: every fan has to do that instead of celebrate the
Speaker 1: touchdown for their team. It diminishes the celebration. It's like
Speaker 1: v R and soccer, right, I mean, if you watch soccer,
Speaker 1: the World Cup, whatever it is, the goal is the
Speaker 1: most joyous. It's one of the most joyous events in
Speaker 1: the words, they don't score that much. A World Cup
Speaker 1: goal is unbelievable. The entire country is celebrate. But wait,
Speaker 1: but wait, and now we're gonna do the little signal
Speaker 1: where the referee does that, the TV signal, and now
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at it, and everybody's like, okay, we
Speaker 1: gotta stop, right, I gotta put my my captain Morgan's down.
Speaker 1: I gotta do whatever it is. And this is where
Speaker 1: we are right now, and it's and it is it
Speaker 1: is concerning um. A couple of quick things before we
Speaker 1: shift gears. I do want to talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about some stats on on p I review we're at
Speaker 1: We're at forty seven total reviews in replay that's up
Speaker 1: from thirty four through two weeks last year. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna see the league is concerned about game time, The
Speaker 1: league is concerned about gameflow. Reviews are gonna be up
Speaker 1: and and of those forty seven sixteen are past. In
Speaker 1: afference historically, the most reviews typically are catch no, catch
Speaker 1: well well, d p I O p I s outpacing
Speaker 1: catch no at sixteen to eleven right now, So so
Speaker 1: forty seven through two weeks, we still got a game
Speaker 1: to go tonight. That's up from thirty four last year.
Speaker 1: At this time, something to watch out for. Um, we're
Speaker 1: looking at scoring, scoring forty four point one points per game.
Speaker 1: Penalties are up right, Penalties are at nineteen point three
Speaker 1: per game, up from eighteen point eight last year. At
Speaker 1: this time, penalties will come down. They will come down.
Speaker 1: It's early, and quite frankly, first two three weeks a
Speaker 1: regular season, it's extended preseason right these How many how
Speaker 1: many starters are playing in the preseason? How many teams
Speaker 1: are really doing anything? Are doing anything regular season related?
Speaker 1: And you know, other than just seeing what who's gonna
Speaker 1: be on the roster, putting in the putting in the
Speaker 1: game plans, putting in the offense, those types of things.
Speaker 1: But they're not doing what they would do in the
Speaker 1: regular seasons. This is extended preseason. It's sloppy football. Penalties
Speaker 1: will come down. Scoring forty four point one, that's down
Speaker 1: from forty seven point one last year at this time,
Speaker 1: and a margin of victories at eleven point six, which
Speaker 1: is still kind of high. But I think we have
Speaker 1: to you know, again, what's the perfect formula high scoring,
Speaker 1: low margin of victory. And I think that's where that's
Speaker 1: where we need to base. So just some statistics, um
Speaker 1: to watch out four. All right, that's NFL. Now we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. This is Good Calls with Dean Blandino,
Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. All Right, we're back.
Speaker 1: Good Calls with Dean Blandino. Now we're gonna go to Saturday, Friday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: they're playing college football. I can't wait for midweek Mac games,
Speaker 1: Mac Attack on the on Oop. I can't say that
Speaker 1: four letter word. I was gonna say another network, but
Speaker 1: Tuesday night Mac football. Wait November. I know you're all
Speaker 1: excited about Bowling Green and Akron on a Tuesday night.
Speaker 1: I am alright, so my seat two calls. I want
Speaker 1: to talk about. Let's go two. I believe it was
Speaker 1: Friday night, unc wake. End of the game, tar Heels
Speaker 1: are down, mac Brown is back, trying to win again,
Speaker 1: trying to turn back the hands of time. It's fourth
Speaker 1: and one. Tar Heels have the ball, they're out of timeouts.
Speaker 1: They run the ball. The back gets a first down.
Speaker 1: So we know in college at the at the end
Speaker 1: of the down, whenever there's a first down, the clock
Speaker 1: will stop temporarily and then it will be wound end
Speaker 1: of the end of the game gets a first down.
Speaker 1: The runners progress is stopped in the field of play,
Speaker 1: and the official rules progress stopped progress will stop with
Speaker 1: two seconds left. He then has driven out of bounds.
Speaker 1: He steps out of bounds with one second. Mechanically, what
Speaker 1: should happen there? Clock expires. Replay needs to stop the
Speaker 1: game immediately and put time back on the clock, because
Speaker 1: you can at the end of the game if the
Speaker 1: clock should have stopped, whether it's for a first down,
Speaker 1: which is a temporary stop, or a permanent stop like
Speaker 1: an incomplete pass, you can put time back on the clock.
Speaker 1: And so when the runners progress was stopped, you go
Speaker 1: to that point. You see where the clock was. You
Speaker 1: put two seconds on the clock and then the offense
Speaker 1: is gonna have to get lined up because we're gonna
Speaker 1: wind the clock on the ready for play. And it's important.
Speaker 1: With two seconds on the clock, you cannot snap the
Speaker 1: ball and spike it. In college football, you have to
Speaker 1: run a play. You can only spike if we're gonna
Speaker 1: wind the clock on the field. You can only spike
Speaker 1: with three or more seconds. So it's important. But a
Speaker 1: CC came out made a statement said there should have
Speaker 1: been time remaining on the clock. I believe the statement
Speaker 1: said one second um and and when the runner was
Speaker 1: out of bounds, but really the progress was stopped. The
Speaker 1: play is over when the progress is stopped, and because
Speaker 1: of the first down, the clock stops at that point.
Speaker 1: All right, now, one of our games on Saturday, this
Speaker 1: is this is the head scratcher play of the week.
Speaker 1: We're still looking for sponsors. By the way out there,
Speaker 1: Murder's um head scratcher call of the week. It's actually
Speaker 1: the head scratcher sequence of the week. We're expanding two
Speaker 1: plays back to back. Michigan State Arizona State. Michigan State's
Speaker 1: down ten seven. They're gonna line up for potential game
Speaker 1: tying field goal, and they have twelve men in the formation.
Speaker 1: So so anybody out there, look, I get it. But
Speaker 1: anybody out there that thinks Michigan State lost because of
Speaker 1: the next call, we're gonna talk about. We need to
Speaker 1: just stop an end there. They had twelve men on
Speaker 1: the field in the formation. Kicker makes the kick, Officials
Speaker 1: get together, center judge actually throws his flag, They pick
Speaker 1: it up, and then replay gets involved. They make it
Speaker 1: a foul. So when replay really on the field, when
Speaker 1: you have twelve men in the formation on the offense
Speaker 1: for three or more seconds, then you should kill the play.
Speaker 1: You don't allow the snap. It's a five yard penalty.
Speaker 1: If the play goes, it's a it's a penalty for
Speaker 1: illegal participation. Replay gets involved and makes it a five
Speaker 1: yard penalty, which is the proper thing, and they move
Speaker 1: Michigan State back five yards. So now we're gonna line
Speaker 1: up for an even longer kick. What happens they missed
Speaker 1: the kick, no flags on the field, Arizona State wins.
Speaker 1: But you watch, and we were watching it in the studio,
Speaker 1: and you have an Arizona player who's not in a stag.
Speaker 1: Arizona State player. I keep saying that I got roasted
Speaker 1: on Twitter yesterday because I said Arizona instead of Arizona.
Speaker 1: It's the same state, Okay, I mean I say it's
Speaker 1: in schools, all right. A s U player who's not
Speaker 1: in a stationary position on the line at the snap,
Speaker 1: runs up, jumps over the center. You can jump a gap.
Speaker 1: And there were people trying to argue that he jumped
Speaker 1: the gap. He didn't jump the gap. He jumped over
Speaker 1: the center clearly above that frame. That's a penalty for leaping.
Speaker 1: It's a fifteen yard penalty. It's going to result in
Speaker 1: a first down. Obviously, Michigan State would have had another
Speaker 1: chance to kick the game tying field goal. Um the
Speaker 1: Pack twelve did come out and make a statement and
Speaker 1: said that that was that call was missed. And and look,
Speaker 1: the bottom line is that's a foul. That's not an
Speaker 1: easy call. And and you have an official in that
Speaker 1: position who's a side judge, who's actually a deep wing
Speaker 1: official on normal place. So the deep wing is the
Speaker 1: officials that are on the sideline in the in the
Speaker 1: defensive backfield side judge field field judge on either sideline.
Speaker 1: That side judge comes in and is one of the
Speaker 1: officials responsible for ruling on that play. You don't get
Speaker 1: a lot of training. You you look at how many
Speaker 1: field goals and extra points during a game compared to
Speaker 1: scrimmage plays, and so it's a different look for that official.
Speaker 1: It's a different play and unfortunately they missed it. And
Speaker 1: uh and again. But it goes back to if you
Speaker 1: don't have twelve on the field for the first kick,
Speaker 1: it's a moot point. But again, not a great sequence.
Speaker 1: One thing I wanted to bring up to that, you know,
Speaker 1: people on Twitter are asking you, and Brady Quinn came
Speaker 1: into the Cube in the studio and asked us was
Speaker 1: why it wasn't it real leverage as well because the
Speaker 1: guy had hands on Yeah, and that's a good point
Speaker 1: to leverage. The college rule is you can you can
Speaker 1: basically leverage off an opponent. You can put your hands
Speaker 1: on an opponent's body and gain leverage, but you can't
Speaker 1: do it off a teammate. In the NFL, you can't
Speaker 1: do it off an opponent or a teammate. Okay, So
Speaker 1: that's the head scratcher call of the week. So really
Speaker 1: excited about our our guests today. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what to call him. I guess he's an NFL insider,
Speaker 1: but he's more than just that. The guy's a The
Speaker 1: guy's a TV star, he's a movie star, he's a
Speaker 1: gym owner, he's a foundation starter, the one and only,
Speaker 1: but basically bottom line is he's just another jack off
Speaker 1: from from New Jersey, Mr J Glazer? Jay, what's up? Man?
Speaker 1: You know exactly who I am? There you go? You
Speaker 1: know when I first met Jay quick story, I was
Speaker 1: working at the league office and he came in and
Speaker 1: did a story on officiating, and Jay, why don't you,
Speaker 1: why don't you tell us that story? Real quick about
Speaker 1: stating I did a real story that I did a
Speaker 1: faith story and if faith stories really got the kind
Speaker 1: of in with you and a lot of the other guys.
Speaker 1: So I was working at CBS at the time, CBS
Speaker 1: sports Line dot Com. I get lined up to do
Speaker 1: a story on the officiating department and I come in
Speaker 1: there and because you know, you saw last week on
Speaker 1: our show Straight and dump gatorad on me, you know,
Speaker 1: play the joke did that. It was a lot of
Speaker 1: because he did that, because I've lived to play jokes
Speaker 1: on him and you and everybody else, Like I lived
Speaker 1: it just of course, you guys, so I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: most of America like cheer. They finally somebody got on
Speaker 1: the back. So my first ever interaction with Dean Blendingo
Speaker 1: was I going to the official department and I write
Speaker 1: a fake article for CBS sports line dot com, which
Speaker 1: was hugely at the time. Um and and and you
Speaker 1: couldn't tell it wasn't a real article, right, It looked flawless, perfect.
Speaker 1: And how you know, the officiating department has a fantasy
Speaker 1: football league and sometimes they'll make you know, calls on
Speaker 1: players based on players are playing that week and the right.
Speaker 1: Then I had one we were right, it's a huge
Speaker 1: you gut the challe Then I had one where you
Speaker 1: guys decided who gets fined, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: there's a code of you know, um, you know, and
Speaker 1: who was its Michael Strahan this week kind of you
Speaker 1: know whatever penalty, but you know, we like him so
Speaker 1: we won't find him. But you know, and Dorsett Jr.
Speaker 1: You know, somebody here at a problem with his father.
Speaker 1: So we got a first team rand or setting along
Speaker 1: those lines. So you know, it's all fake, none of
Speaker 1: it's real, but it looks fantastic. Like you can't tell
Speaker 1: it's not real. And I had greg Iello Commins, the
Speaker 1: vice president Communications the NFL involved, and you know, nobody
Speaker 1: else says he walks upstairs and then fisiating department, Nick
Speaker 1: drops these you know copy to the article on the
Speaker 1: table up there and said, what the hell is wrong
Speaker 1: with you? Guys? We let this reporter inside and give
Speaker 1: him access to this. This is what you do. And
Speaker 1: Mike Pereira, right, he was boss of the time. He
Speaker 1: started flipping out. All the you know, officiating guys in
Speaker 1: your office store flipping out, and they start pointing fingers
Speaker 1: at each other. It's like Lord of the Flies. You're
Speaker 1: just going after each other. Guys like I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: Who is the only one who was the only one
Speaker 1: that didn't buy it? Right? Right? So for guys like
Speaker 1: I didn't say that, like you did, I heard you
Speaker 1: like they were turning out each other. One person sat
Speaker 1: there and looked at everybody like, you guys are a
Speaker 1: bunch of idiots. This can't be true. Indeed, I gotta
Speaker 1: give you credit. You're the only one. As the great
Speaker 1: Stewart Scott would say, you're cool as the other side
Speaker 1: of Tillow. But everybody else they crapped their parts. So
Speaker 1: that was my introduction to Jay Glazer. So you know,
Speaker 1: it was all it's all uphill from there. But you
Speaker 1: know what, what I noticed about you, what I find
Speaker 1: so interesting is you know, I been to league meetings
Speaker 1: with you, and I've seen you interact with coaches and
Speaker 1: gms and owners and and and other events, super Bowls,
Speaker 1: whatever it is. And you have these reporters that are
Speaker 1: that are kind of on the outside and they're looking
Speaker 1: for information, and so they talk to these people. But
Speaker 1: but you're You're part of it, right. I see you,
Speaker 1: and you're you're part of the group, and you have
Speaker 1: these relationships that go they go beyond a a professional
Speaker 1: relationship in terms of I'm a reporter and I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get a scoop. And and that's what I found
Speaker 1: so interesting is that was that your approach, you know, um,
Speaker 1: in terms of going into this business. So just talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about that, you know, be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I'm the same no matter what, like well me or
Speaker 1: hate me, you know what you're getting because it's just
Speaker 1: it's just one me. I can't I can't be any
Speaker 1: other way else. And and um, yes, I didn't play
Speaker 1: by any of anybody else rules. I act this way
Speaker 1: with everybody because I need to genuinely like everybody. That's it.
Speaker 1: And you know, like to play jokes. I like to
Speaker 1: mess arou. But yeah, I mean, I think I'm the
Speaker 1: only reporter probably in NFL history, who gets a day
Speaker 1: drinking group of coaches and and g ms together at
Speaker 1: the owners me. I think it's twenty GM and head
Speaker 1: coach is deep um. And I've always said, look, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: When I started this business, I walked in that giant
Speaker 1: locker room in and I said, man, how could I
Speaker 1: be different from everybody in here? Um? Because I couldn't
Speaker 1: be like everybody else. You know, I didn't have the
Speaker 1: same education, didn't have any experience. And you know this
Speaker 1: before the internet, like New York is the place to be,
Speaker 1: and you know, I looked at it. How could I
Speaker 1: be different? You know, different is the way you're going
Speaker 1: to succeed. And at the time, everybody was kind of
Speaker 1: using their pen as a weapon. I said, how am
Speaker 1: I gonna. I'm gonna. I'm gonna get relationships. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: build these relationships, and over time, through relationships, I'll get
Speaker 1: more scooped than anybody else. And that's what happening, thank god.
Speaker 1: But and then the business changed. I think it was.
Speaker 1: I've even had I have one person come up to
Speaker 1: me back then covered the I said, well, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can't beat them, join them and asking me why do
Speaker 1: we have a relationships with your players? Like if you
Speaker 1: got to ask, you can't ask exactly. But but it
Speaker 1: was now you see everybody try and be friends and
Speaker 1: and the same thing. But it wasn't like that when
Speaker 1: I was doing this and I got killed crushed murdered
Speaker 1: by everybody else from the media, that I wasn't because
Speaker 1: I was friends with everybody. Yet I had more scoops
Speaker 1: than anybody else. So don't question my objectivity. Look at
Speaker 1: the body of work. I had more big scoops than
Speaker 1: anybody who's who's done it over this period. But now
Speaker 1: everybody tries to do at the same one. They all
Speaker 1: try and have relationships. And you were really the first one.
Speaker 1: And and like you said, and I've seen it. You
Speaker 1: you are yourself, whatever the environment, wherever, wherever you are,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be yourself and you always know where you stand.
Speaker 1: So I've always I've always appreciated that Um, well, I
Speaker 1: just look, we're talking about jokes and being me. I
Speaker 1: have one joke that I do where I take people's
Speaker 1: phones and like, if you love your phone unlocked in
Speaker 1: front of me, you're screwed. So I'll take people's phones
Speaker 1: and it's a joke. I got some chuckle adele who
Speaker 1: makes the story later show later? Um, but he uh,
Speaker 1: he would take people. So now I kind of turned
Speaker 1: into an art. I'll take your phone, I'll teck somebody
Speaker 1: from your phone, and then a raise the scent text
Speaker 1: message so you have no idea anything. I'll text people's
Speaker 1: lives that they're going to the doctor about certain things.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, yeah. The first time, the first time straight
Speaker 1: and I met Gavin Newsom, who's not the governor of California,
Speaker 1: but the first time he left his phone in front me.
Speaker 1: I grabbed. Michael's looks at you, like, are you grab
Speaker 1: you Wait, you grabbed Gavin Newsome's phone the first time
Speaker 1: you met him? Yes, the first time, And I went
Speaker 1: to go text Bill Clinton because I was like the
Speaker 1: last guy who was texting something whatever it was that
Speaker 1: Michael's look at me, don't I'm like yeah, And I
Speaker 1: guess I said we had told him the story beforehand,
Speaker 1: and so I started texting and as I text, Gavin
Speaker 1: Newsom turns around, No grabbed the phone. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And he's just like, you're out of your might. You
Speaker 1: don't even really know me. I'm like, I do know,
Speaker 1: and we become friends as a result. That's I would
Speaker 1: have loved to see what Bill Clinton's response would have
Speaker 1: been to whatever crazin issue when you were going to
Speaker 1: text him. So Michaelson, They're like no, no, He's like
Speaker 1: shaking his head. No, like shaking me off, like a
Speaker 1: like a like a you know, baseball picture, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: shut up. He's like, don't do it, but shut up.
Speaker 1: So switching gears a little bit because you have so
Speaker 1: much going on. I don't know where you find all
Speaker 1: the time for it. But e ballers your your bellator.
Speaker 1: You have the gym unbreakable, and I've trained there and
Speaker 1: it's it's an it's such an interesting concept where it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, you're in you're in West Hollywood's.
Speaker 1: You think this is a fancy place, but this is
Speaker 1: a no frills kind of no mirrors. You go in
Speaker 1: and there's but you walk in there and here's everybody
Speaker 1: from there's m m A fighters, there's there's Hollywood A listers,
Speaker 1: there's you know, just regular people that that are trying
Speaker 1: to get better in there. And you know it's so
Speaker 1: I mean, I've worked out with with Khalifa, I've worked
Speaker 1: out with Sylvester Stallone, I've worked out with Randy Cotur,
Speaker 1: I've worked out with so many people at that gym.
Speaker 1: But it's such a it's a great concept and and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, tell us a little bit more about it.
Speaker 1: You know, you also said there's no mirrors. There's no mirrors, um,
Speaker 1: because what I would like to do in my life
Speaker 1: with build teams, I do that at m m A.
Speaker 1: I like being I need a team. I need a
Speaker 1: team to kind of the team helps me with my
Speaker 1: depression of my anxiety. And that's why I thought, I
Speaker 1: have a fight team. And it's crazy as it towns
Speaker 1: and in the cage is where I feel safe and
Speaker 1: after somebody beat the hell out of me is when
Speaker 1: I'm I kind of have my most vulnerable talk. So
Speaker 1: I have this fight team behind me, and I'm it
Speaker 1: will take with me in life and it helps me
Speaker 1: with depression anxiety. Um, so I kind of built that
Speaker 1: same thing there and unbreakable of you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who you are there. You know, as you get
Speaker 1: more successful, you become mister and misses to everybody. You
Speaker 1: lost it, your your your locker room, so you tribe.
Speaker 1: So I try to build the locker room again. And
Speaker 1: there's no mirrors in there because I don't want anybody's
Speaker 1: back turn to anybody else in the team. So it's
Speaker 1: the mirrors aren't there because of a vanity thing. It's
Speaker 1: there because of a team thing. Um. But yeah, we
Speaker 1: put everybody together and it's, uh, it's a pretty cool
Speaker 1: little concept. Like you said, you know your workout crew,
Speaker 1: you come in, you have a different workout than anybody else.
Speaker 1: Everybody gets coached. You don't just come in and work out.
Speaker 1: So you get coached. And we build this family in
Speaker 1: there that you know, at any one point you can
Speaker 1: come in there. And you know, we had one group
Speaker 1: one time it was man, it was eleven o'clock in
Speaker 1: the morning and the group that group was Joe Jonas,
Speaker 1: Sophie Turner, Duane Brown who's holding out from the Texans,
Speaker 1: Luke rock Hold, who is the middleweight champ of the world,
Speaker 1: Chuck Ligil. Where's Khalifa might have been stallone? I think
Speaker 1: was stallone? Uh Nick Jonas, uh Man, Roy Hubert basketball player,
Speaker 1: Milan luc Where where else in the world? Where else
Speaker 1: in the world are you where else in the world?
Speaker 1: You're gonna get that group together for anything? It's the
Speaker 1: oscars in the Super Bowl wrapped up is unbelievable. And
Speaker 1: and the other thing, you know, you talked about building
Speaker 1: team and and and helping helping each other out. You're
Speaker 1: you're involved, and you really started with with Nate Boyer
Speaker 1: m v P, which which is you know, your foundation
Speaker 1: for returning veterans and merging vets and players. And you know,
Speaker 1: I've been to those meetings at the gym and it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a powerful, powerful experience. And uh and you know,
Speaker 1: so what what was the impetus behind that? And and uh,
Speaker 1: you know what are you doing now with it? I
Speaker 1: was trying to give Nate something to do aftergett going
Speaker 1: back and you know he's going back in the military.
Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, now, let's let's not do that. Man,
Speaker 1: what's he came out alive. Let's not send you back.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you know, look, obviously been around football players
Speaker 1: my whole adult life. Um as in my retiring I'm
Speaker 1: hearing them. You're complaining the same things in the transition.
Speaker 1: Transition sucks, you know. And you know I've trained with
Speaker 1: military guys a lot, and I've actually trained military overseas
Speaker 1: in m M A stuff. And you know, they come
Speaker 1: home and they have the same They've voiced their problems
Speaker 1: to transition the same exact way. It's it's incredible. It
Speaker 1: soun Kenny. You know, obviously it's a different life, but
Speaker 1: their complaints are the same. You know. They you know,
Speaker 1: if they don't feel um a lot, won't leave the house.
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, I'm different, man, I don't fit in.
Speaker 1: I'm missing my team, I'm missing my locker room. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, guys put us up the NFL. They won't
Speaker 1: leave the house. It's oh, man, everybody asked me, No,
Speaker 1: aren't two team anymore. They're they're kind of humiliated, and
Speaker 1: you know, military guys, they finish up the combat bets,
Speaker 1: they come home and I gotta say, well, I don't
Speaker 1: leave the house either, because everybody asks people like you,
Speaker 1: I don't answer that, and I don't fit in. I
Speaker 1: don't I feel like I don't fit anywhere. And it's
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, start here, all these plaints, it
Speaker 1: was the same complaint. I'm like, shoot, man, let's put
Speaker 1: these guys together. Let's complain and empower each other together.
Speaker 1: You know, we understand each other. So I created thing
Speaker 1: merging vested players football players look up to combat. That combat,
Speaker 1: that's look up the football players. That's putting together, giving
Speaker 1: the team. You know, when you retire from the NFL,
Speaker 1: you know, Mr playbook, you don't miss practice, you don't
Speaker 1: miss the pain, you don't miss the hits. Damn sure,
Speaker 1: miss your your locker, your team. So That's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do. And and you know again me and
Speaker 1: my fight team. Like for me personally, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I've suffered from severe depression anxiety of my whole life
Speaker 1: and the one thing that helps you out with it
Speaker 1: is is my team. And I should say my two
Speaker 1: things helping with my team and being a service to others.
Speaker 1: Like you know, So we sit Dore on Wednesday night.
Speaker 1: So we put this group together, be seventy guys in there, gals,
Speaker 1: and you know, we talked about everything about why you know,
Speaker 1: you should be empowered, why you shouldn't look at it like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: I you know I used to be great. No uniform
Speaker 1: don't make you great, You're great. You know what's behind
Speaker 1: your rib cage has made you great. Um and man,
Speaker 1: it's just a bunch of badasses empowering and other bad assets.
Speaker 1: We talk about the heaviest stuff in the world on
Speaker 1: Wednesday nights. Wednesday Nights One Night in my Life said,
Speaker 1: I don't feel depression and anxiety creep in because it's
Speaker 1: I am being a service otherish. It's that, it's you know,
Speaker 1: I've been there. It's that sense of community that they
Speaker 1: that they have and it makes it's such an unbelievable
Speaker 1: experience and I think it's amazing. What with that. You know,
Speaker 1: a group we started the group with about ten was
Speaker 1: that you know, think you guys, you would never think
Speaker 1: we're homeless. And they're living in a shelter. There shelters
Speaker 1: throughout l a throughout the country. They're like homeless, like
Speaker 1: barracks for homeless veterans because they finish up a lot
Speaker 1: of them, they got nowhere to go. He's like, and
Speaker 1: they've made no money, got no credit. Where do you go?
Speaker 1: The systems really fractic's very broken. Um, and it started there,
Speaker 1: and you know is now thousands strong were throughout the
Speaker 1: country at different cities. I'm really, really, really proud of
Speaker 1: these guys. But you know, any one time you can
Speaker 1: go in there and say, hey, how many people in
Speaker 1: here trying to commit suicide? And three court of the
Speaker 1: room will hands will go up. And since they've been
Speaker 1: with us, they have not tried. Since they've been with us,
Speaker 1: We've got a ton of these cats through homelessness and
Speaker 1: homes and jobs and job interviews, and they've they've helped
Speaker 1: each other and they're now being of service to others.
Speaker 1: They're they're doing great things. And and you know, we've
Speaker 1: got a crew now when something happens, we actually employ
Speaker 1: these guys in human New mission. We deployed in Vegas
Speaker 1: after shooting, we're deployed in Hurricane Harvey. Yeah, they're amazing. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's unbelievable. And then the last thing you mentioned,
Speaker 1: you mentioned Chuck Liddell and uh and and we have
Speaker 1: a story. I don't know how many years it goes back,
Speaker 1: but we were in we went out one night. I
Speaker 1: have a story. We went out one night in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: But do you is a big, huge, huge, amazing is
Speaker 1: one of my training partners, good friend, and we're going
Speaker 1: out in New York champions and uh, I called Dean.
Speaker 1: We're in New York, Chuck, and hey, do you get
Speaker 1: to come out with us? Right? So we go out
Speaker 1: all right long, and somehow we end up with like
Speaker 1: it's like a bunch of Jamaican drug dealers. I don't
Speaker 1: know what. Yeah, there was we we kept taking people
Speaker 1: up every every place we went to, we kept picking
Speaker 1: up more people. It was like the pipe piper. That's Chuck.
Speaker 1: Chuck just collects people. Yeah, it's scary of an individual's
Speaker 1: Chuck seams. He he's he will hang out with anybody.
Speaker 1: He's like the nicest guy in the world like that.
Speaker 1: So he's collecting people and we're going and we finally
Speaker 1: end up with some after hours to in about four
Speaker 1: or five in the morning and go ahead. So we
Speaker 1: walk into this after hours place and the guy comes
Speaker 1: up to us and and he looks vaguely familiar, and
Speaker 1: he's wearing a kind of a weird kind of outfit
Speaker 1: and he's wearing these these shoes, these white patent leather
Speaker 1: alligator boots. And you know, Jay thought he was the
Speaker 1: major d and the guy comes up to him and
Speaker 1: and he was like, hey, you know, chuckle adell j
Speaker 1: Glazer and uh, you know, hey, you guys are great,
Speaker 1: come on, come to my table, and and Jay was
Speaker 1: was hammered and he's like, yeah, tell televator d to
Speaker 1: you know, get get me a drink, get go to
Speaker 1: the table. And I'm looking at this guy. Yeah, hey,
Speaker 1: somebody tell us mad get me a table. I'm freaking starving.
Speaker 1: And I looked through and Jay tell us guys, I'm starving,
Speaker 1: and You're like, Jay, it's not to man, I'm like,
Speaker 1: and then I start going look at the boosh, my god,
Speaker 1: look at his food, and he's like two feet away
Speaker 1: from us, and I'm kind of just ragging on the
Speaker 1: guy and ripped, you know, raz and I'm in a
Speaker 1: fun way about his boots, and I'm like, can you
Speaker 1: please tell this guys get at the table. I'm starving.
Speaker 1: You're like, Jay, it's not I'm like what I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's it's actually Mickey Rourke. And and so it was
Speaker 1: Mickey Rourke that Jay was making fun of to his face.
Speaker 1: And then Jay doubles down, right, So so that happens,
Speaker 1: you double down and He's like, so tell Mickey rourk
Speaker 1: to get me a table and get me a sandwich,
Speaker 1: and he did, and we end up the best grilled
Speaker 1: cheese sandwich in history. We end up spending the rest
Speaker 1: of the night with Mickey Rourke eating eating grilled cheese
Speaker 1: sandwiches and drinking mohitos. He's like, I'm gonna get you
Speaker 1: a grilled cheese sandwich and a Mohedo And I'm sitting
Speaker 1: there at three am in the morning, going, wh what
Speaker 1: does my life become? I'm eating grilled cheese sandwiches and
Speaker 1: mohe and drinking mohedoes with Mickey Rourke and Chuckle adell
Speaker 1: is doing cartwheels on the dance floor. By the way,
Speaker 1: at this time, and by the way, it was only
Speaker 1: a Monday night, and it was a Monday night. There
Speaker 1: you go. There you go, no normal Monday night. So
Speaker 1: that's that's what you get when you hang out with
Speaker 1: Jay Glazer. You can you can follow Jay on Twitter
Speaker 1: at j Glazer Instagram, check out his foundation, Vets and
Speaker 1: Players dot org and uh and just you're a renaissance man.
Speaker 1: That's all. That's that's all I can say. And you're
Speaker 1: you're you're a renaissance man. You're an idiot, you're all
Speaker 1: those things. And thanks thanks for joining us today. J
Speaker 1: all right, all right, thanks to Jay. Jay is an
Speaker 1: interesting guy. Jay has a lot of stories. We could
Speaker 1: probably talk to J for an hour and uh and
Speaker 1: we'll bring Jay back and we'll tell more more stories
Speaker 1: about Chuck Liddell and Mickey Rourke and but that's his life,
Speaker 1: that's what he does. Like you literally you literally walk
Speaker 1: into that, Jim, and it's Demilovado over here and and
Speaker 1: Rich Eyes and over here. It's such a mishmash of
Speaker 1: of celebrities and sports personalities. It's it's unbelievable. So thanks
Speaker 1: J for joining us. That's the show. Thank you all
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