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Speaker 2: Those are five rings you just heard. We're two guys

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Speaker 1: And Nebo and Yang. This is somehow official Olympics coverage.

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Speaker 1: oldest job ever? You know? Italy is one of the

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Speaker 2: We should say we have uh, the incredible Barb who

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Speaker 1: Now, we were expressly told just seconds ago that she's

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Speaker 2: Specifically Olympic Olympics. But that doesn't mean that we're not

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Speaker 1: I think if you bring Barb to trivia at high

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Speaker 1: But I bet Barb knows about film history, about pop

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Speaker 1: What's the oldest civilization? Is it Mesopotamia? Business team a Syria, Mesopotamia.

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Speaker 1: and really narrativize the top moments of the Winter Olympics.

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Speaker 2: So in a way like this whole intro actually made

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah, well great, well great.

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Speaker 1: You Now, how deep do you want me to go?

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Speaker 1: Like you do in Jeopardy. But Barb as Montreal Eber

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Speaker 2: See, yeah, exactly, And this is our little damn battling today.

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Speaker 1: Island, et cetera. History Sameria, Samiria.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll never forget. So that that Olympics that Sarah

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Speaker 2: Michelle Kwan behind closed doors tonight not earning any medal.

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Speaker 1: Or maybe she won the bronze. Hey, Barb, did Michelle

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Speaker 2: So we're here to discuss the top Winter Olympic moments

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Speaker 2: You know there's going to be an all outsprint for

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Speaker 2: Learning about the first suburbs. And you know, Bowen is

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Speaker 1: And you're saying that Diggins is back. Yes, she's back,

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Speaker 1: Another peyong Chang moment, Yeah, another pyeong Chang sort of

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Speaker 2: We also can't forget about. I mean because because it's

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Speaker 2: want to sell soap, That's what this whole thing is

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I can't even begin to unpack this.

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Speaker 2: I think our sponsors would agree, Barb. What is the

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Speaker 1: The purpose of the Olympics. Yeah, but can you answer that, Barb?

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Speaker 1: How how would you answer that? Don't look it up?

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Speaker 1: This is more personal, Barb. So we we've not really

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Speaker 1: your knowledge. Yeah, this must come from somewhere emotional.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say that before Barb says this.

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Speaker 2: She last said the quadruple actual is.

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Speaker 1: Four and a half revolutions Olympism is about the spirit

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Speaker 1: of the games. Olympism is about the spirit of the games,

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Speaker 1: and the spirit of the games is what you would

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Speaker 1: define as human triumph, human triumph, collective collective goals. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the idea that adversity strengthens one, strengthens one and many,

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Speaker 1: and the idea that each one teach one. Are you

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Speaker 1: ready bringing people together, bringing together unity?

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Speaker 2: That's beautiful, Barb, she said, bringing people together dot dot

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Speaker 2: dot unity.

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Speaker 1: Barbara, you are a poet. Was amazing. Your command of

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Speaker 1: your your your economy of language is truly staggering.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen mastery like this since Bawn Yang took

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Speaker 2: the ap calculus test in high school.

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Speaker 1: Now, don't you agree? Has she not convinced you that?

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Speaker 1: Don't you agree?

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Speaker 2: What Olympic sport would dou a liipa win, Barb? And

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Speaker 2: then we're gonna say our top three moments in Windsor history.

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Speaker 1: While Barb comes up with that answer, I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you if Barb's answer Olympus is about the spirit

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Speaker 1: of the games, bringing people together dot unity. Has she

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Speaker 1: convinced you that it's not to sell soap? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was just jaded earlier, but now

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Speaker 2: I'm emotional from what Barb said, and actually I see

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Speaker 2: the light.

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Speaker 1: It's almost like I watched the film Miracle Oh, which

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Speaker 1: was another moment, and of course the Jamaican bobsad team

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight in Calgary, which was the inspiration

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Speaker 1: behind Cold Runnings. Barb says that how about excellence, Barb,

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Speaker 1: you are we might have to change the title of

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Speaker 1: this podcast. It's two guys, five rings and Barb and

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Speaker 1: Barb and one Barb.

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Speaker 2: I think Dua Lipa does would be really competitive for

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Speaker 2: the gold medal and excellence.

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Speaker 1: I saw her radical optimism tour.

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Speaker 2: I was thinking, it's the whole time to say it,

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Speaker 2: until now it's time to name our bronze, silver and

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Speaker 2: gold medals for Winter Olympic moments past.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say bronze is gonna go to Jamaican bobst

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Speaker 1: team in Calgary. Yes, just because it is so beautiful.

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Speaker 1: There's like for a country to have no winter sports tradition,

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Speaker 1: to then just have this beautiful underdog story and then

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Speaker 1: to inspire a beloved film that is peak Olympics culture

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Speaker 1: to me. And yet I'm still giving a bronze because

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Speaker 1: we did not give it get a chance to really

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Speaker 1: talk about it. But that's that's just something that ever,

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Speaker 1: that is monoculture.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that for me, my silver,

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Speaker 2: this is gonna be controversial. I think my silver and

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Speaker 2: know we're gonna say metal Olympic Winter moment is not here.

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Speaker 2: Mine is the French judge. You know, I never let

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Speaker 2: it go.

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Speaker 1: The French have never God, the first time you talked

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Speaker 1: about the French judge on Lost Cultures O their podcasts,

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Speaker 1: I knew that this was going to be a lasting thing.

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Speaker 2: Everyone knows what I'm talking about when I say just

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Speaker 2: three simple words, the French judge, French judge. When there

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Speaker 2: was a doubles it was it was uh figure skating

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Speaker 2: doubles and the Canadian couple who.

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Speaker 1: Were amazing married. By the way, since divorced, Sad Bob.

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Speaker 1: Why did they get divorced? Can we find out why

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Speaker 1: they who filed and what was the reason. This is

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Speaker 1: the Canadian figure skating duo who was given a co

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Speaker 1: gold medal with the Russians after the French judge. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we have the French judge.

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Speaker 2: Marie Jamie Sala and David Pelatzier.

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Speaker 1: Yes, why did they get divorced? Oh? I don't want

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Speaker 1: I don't want us to No, no, no, they would

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Speaker 1: not want us to have to look that up. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: While she's looking it up, I will say they were

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Speaker 2: my silver medal, and which is unfortunately what they were

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Speaker 2: given until they were given what they were supposed to

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Speaker 2: be gotten, gotten the gold. That French judge better not

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Speaker 2: show her face again, Miss.

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Speaker 1: Marie, Miss Marie Lagna, pronounce your name? What is the

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Speaker 1: gold medal winner for you? Blondekoe Kim blond Chloe Kim

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Speaker 1: is up there. No, I'm gonna say, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: say her Negosta. Yeah, that was amazing.

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Speaker 2: It was rousing to see her come from behind like

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Speaker 2: that and land that ta the ta.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that she wasn't even in twenty fourteen

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Speaker 1: like that is what the Olympics were about.

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Speaker 2: To me, I'm gonna go ahead and guess that Barb

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Speaker 2: is uncomfortable sharing I knogling. The divorce were never mind.

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Speaker 1: Well and they co parented well together.

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Speaker 2: The divorce was amicable and they co parented well together.

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Speaker 2: And isn't that the Olympic spirit? And here I was

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Speaker 2: thinking Barb would be uncomfortable airing their marital dirty laundry

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Speaker 2: out on.

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Speaker 1: This huge podcast. That is the spirit of the games,

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Speaker 1: that is bringing people together, unity, co parenting. Can we

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Speaker 1: give a special gold medal on this episode too, Barb?

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Speaker 1: Can we do that? Yes, we are bar postcancer? Are

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Speaker 1: we pouncing her lasting? Sorry post cancer, you win the

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Speaker 1: speciable medal. You are invited back any time, Barb. You've

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Speaker 1: been such a valuable resource. Thank you for entertaining our

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Speaker 1: really frivolous ass. She says, I am so honored, Barb.

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Speaker 1: Whether or not you are in Italy, we will be

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Speaker 1: toasting to you from Afar, from Milan, we will be

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Speaker 1: facing Stanford Word and we will be toasting you. You

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Speaker 1: are a legend. Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 1: That's immediately, she says. He used to have a lot

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Speaker 1: of power at NBC. No more, no more, No, Why

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Speaker 1: did you leave that power behind? When did you leave

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Speaker 1: the show? All right?

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Speaker 2: All three between the lines at home, because that's it

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Speaker 2: for another episode of us.

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Speaker 1: The two guys who speak on the Five Rings and

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Speaker 1: Barb and Barb, and we end every episode with the

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Speaker 1: same stong back Bob, Bob. If you want to put

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Speaker 1: history in the Barb