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Speaker 1: it with Daniel. Daniel hit us up from Kennesaw, Georgia,

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Speaker 1: not here to be I'm not here to be a

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Speaker 1: psychiatrist for you in your personal life, although I think

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Speaker 1: this may help. Well. The point I'm trying to make

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Speaker 1: is when you're in a bad spot in your life,

431
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Speaker 1: you tend to look at the folks in the good spots,

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Speaker 1: in the good times, and you tend to say that

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Speaker 1: could never be me, or maybe you're envious, or maybe

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Speaker 1: you look at them and you say they could never

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Speaker 1: imagine going through what I'm going through. Well, that's a

436
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Speaker 1: paper pop, but I don't have paper in my hand,

437
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Speaker 1: so I had to hit the chair up. If you're

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Speaker 1: in a bad spot right now professionally, if you think

439
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Speaker 1: you're in a dead end job, if you're not making

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Speaker 1: a lot of money, and you look at folks who

441
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Speaker 1: have made it, who are on top of the world,

442
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Speaker 1: and think, oh, that'll never be me, and they could

443
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Speaker 1: never imagine what I'm going through. Let me tell you

444
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Speaker 1: a little story. We don't need to go back very far.

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Speaker 1: We need to go back to let's say two thousand

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Speaker 1: and sixteen twenty sixteen. There was a lot of turnover

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Speaker 1: down at the new station I was working at in Columbus, Georgia,

448
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Speaker 1: and what we had started to do there. Most of

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Speaker 1: you know my story. I came up for my contract renegotiation.

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Speaker 1: They weren't going to let me do my own college

451
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Speaker 1: football show. So instead of resigning and making what I

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Speaker 1: was making, which was about thirty thousand dollars a year,

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Speaker 1: I opted to just do independent contract work. And that

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Speaker 1: meant I was going to work for them for three

455
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Speaker 1: hundred dollars a week to anchor the news, so making

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Speaker 1: no money, but in exchange at least I was going

457
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Speaker 1: to get studio time three nights a week for one hour,

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Speaker 1: and that's where we started Late Kick. We started doing

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Speaker 1: it on our own YouTube channel. You know that story.

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Speaker 1: Well here's what you don't know. It got worse than

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Speaker 1: that financially for me. In fact, I didn't even tell

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Speaker 1: the people down there. Bradley was with me. I don't

463
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Speaker 1: even think he knows this story. I get called in

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Speaker 1: the interim news director's office one day and he tells me,

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Speaker 1: you know, we're just going to go a different direction

466
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Speaker 1: with our morning news. And basically what he was telling

467
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Speaker 1: me was I was not good enough to be on

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Speaker 1: air for him in market one twenty four at the

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Speaker 1: number three station in the market at five am. I'm

470
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Speaker 1: not good enough to be on air now. He was wrong,

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Speaker 1: and I knew he was wrong, and I knew he

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Speaker 1: was foolish. And since then he's been through multiple jobs.

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Speaker 1: This dude had no clue how to beat himself out

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Speaker 1: of a wet paper bag intellectually when it came to

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Speaker 1: running a news station. But he was the boss at

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Speaker 1: the time, and I had to adhere to his methodology.

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Speaker 1: And so I'm out of a job. Period. Think about

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Speaker 1: making three hundred bucks a week to anchor news and

479
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Speaker 1: then having that taken from you, because even then we're

480
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Speaker 1: paying you a little bit too much. You're delivering a

481
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Speaker 1: little bit, a little bit less than we find to

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Speaker 1: be our standard here. And so yeah, that's twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: that's going into twenty seventeen. That is within the last

484
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Speaker 1: six years, well within the last decade, I'm taking off

485
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Speaker 1: air making three hundred bucks a week. I'm making nothing.

486
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Speaker 1: I got evicted from my apartment. I had a ton

487
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Speaker 1: of debt, ton of it, had no clue what I

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Speaker 1: was going to do. One day, I will read you

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Speaker 1: the journal entries because I was keeping a journal I

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Speaker 1: still do. I highly recommend you guys do that. There

491
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Speaker 1: are some of the bleakest pages you will ever see

492
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Speaker 1: in that journal from me documenting my current mood, my

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Speaker 1: current state of mind, my current existence, and the circumstances

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Speaker 1: at hand. And there are several pages in there where

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Speaker 1: I conclude with I have no clue how this could

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Speaker 1: ever work out. I have no idea, just totally like

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Speaker 1: put it in God's hands. But as for me and

498
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Speaker 1: how far I can see around the corner, I don't

499
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Speaker 1: know how this is going to work out. Hey, it

500
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Speaker 1: worked out. It worked out because I didn't give up.

501
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: That sounds like motivational speaker talk, you know, it sounds

502
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Speaker 1: like something your guidance counselor tells you. No, I promise you, guys,

503
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Speaker 1: it works if you really just keep chopping on the tree,

504
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Speaker 1: even though the tree doesn't feel like it's moving. It

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Speaker 1: works eventually, and especially if you're applying yourself in the

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Speaker 1: areas where you do have passion, you do have talent.

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Speaker 1: I was listening to Jerry Seinfeld talk the other day

508
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Speaker 1: about his routine back in the day, you know, even

509
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Speaker 1: before he blew up. But then when he blows up

510
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Speaker 1: and he was talking about how he's never not working

511
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Speaker 1: and he's never not working on material, and he's never

512
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Speaker 1: not formulaically in his mind putting together a set. And

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Speaker 1: someone said to him, that's got to be torturous, and

514
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Speaker 1: he said, oh, it is. It is. The key is

515
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Speaker 1: find the torture that you can tolerate. And that's exactly

516
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Speaker 1: what Kyle Football in this show is to me. I

517
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Speaker 1: don't even view it as torture. Frankly, it's fun to me.

518
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Speaker 1: But there is no off time. It's very little vacation.

519
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: But this is kind of what you would do if

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Speaker 1: you go on vacation. Most of you go to the beach.

521
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,399
Speaker 1: You just read college football magazines. Well, I kind of

522
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Speaker 1: get to live in a college football magazine all year.

523
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Speaker 1: We kind of get to write it with words all year.

524
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Speaker 1: But it wasn't always like this. You know, I meet

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Speaker 1: new people today in our industry and they look at

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Speaker 1: me and they think I've got a dream job. Oh

527
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Speaker 1: I do, I do. But I wasn't born here, far

528
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Speaker 1: from it, far from it. And so this is the

529
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: high point, but the low point was not that long ago.

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Speaker 1: So when you meet me and or you listen to me,

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Speaker 1: because a lot of you meet me multiple times a

532
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Speaker 1: week via this show or this podcast, and maybe I

533
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Speaker 1: sound like I come from a little bit different angle,

534
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Speaker 1: and maybe I don't dress quite as fancy as the

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Speaker 1: host over there or the host over here. I'm not

536
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Speaker 1: knocking them for their pro coach. I just know where

537
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Speaker 1: I came from and it is fresh in my mind,

538
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Speaker 1: and not knowing where a meal is going to come

539
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Speaker 1: from is a feeling I'm familiar with, and so living,

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Speaker 1: you know, the living the mountaintop is made all the

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Speaker 1: more precious as an experience when you can still see

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Speaker 1: the valley over there. That's how that's how recent that is.

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Speaker 1: So that was the low point in my career. It'll

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Speaker 1: work out. Whatever you're going through, it'll work out, just

545
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Speaker 1: like this. I gotta admit I can't lie to you guys.

546
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Speaker 1: I think the ad toss was a little bit too

547
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Speaker 1: predictable today, and I promise you I'll do better next week.

548
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Speaker 1: I don't like when you know that it's coming immunity,

549
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Speaker 1: but I think you saw that when coming today, I'll

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Speaker 1: do better next week. You're welcome. Made it easy on

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Speaker 1: you this week. Andy is next up from Cleveland. Ohio.

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Speaker 1: He said, what is the quarterback competition you're watching closest

553
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Speaker 1: heading into fall? Well, I got a few of them

554
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. I think everyone has to have their attention

555
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Speaker 1: on that. I mean, this is a bona fide playoff contender.

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Speaker 1: This is I guess I would call them a co

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Speaker 1: favorite to win the Big Ten. The difference is they're

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Speaker 1: a co favorite with Michigan and everyone knows JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 1: and even with Penn State, Drew Aller is a new starter,

560
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Speaker 1: but everyone knows he's starting there. At Ohio State, we

561
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: don't know McCord brown, we don't know. I don't. I

562
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Speaker 1: really believe the staff doesn't know. I think they have

563
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Speaker 1: a good idea, but I think this will play out

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Speaker 1: into fall camp. It's one of those situations, though we've

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Speaker 1: seen it with the powerhouse teams a time or two,

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Speaker 1: where you know, no matter who the starting quarterback is

567
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Speaker 1: going to be. Well, they got a lot of weaponry

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Speaker 1: to work with around them, and Ohio State's got a

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Speaker 1: rapidly improving defensive unit two, so I don't look at

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Speaker 1: it as a weakness. I think one of the big

571
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Speaker 1: lies in football is if you have two quarterbacks, you

572
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Speaker 1: don't have any Sometimes it can be true, not all

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Speaker 1: the time, and especially when you're dealing with the Ohio

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Speaker 1: States of the World, or Clemson or like one of

575
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Speaker 1: these big perennial recruiting powers. Texas is doing this right now.

576
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Speaker 1: Sometimes they're just good enough to stack multiple quality quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: Will that be the case in Columbus. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just know it has been in the past. It's

579
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Speaker 1: been that way at Alabama too. Speaking of Alabama, actually

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Speaker 1: this one may be the most intriguing. This one. We

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Speaker 1: really have no clue where it's gonna end up. So

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Speaker 1: much so that Nick Saban goes into Spring and that

583
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Speaker 1: was the time where we were supposed to learn something.

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Speaker 1: Remember that even I was foolish enough to say at

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Speaker 1: the beginning of April one of the big things I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to is finding out between ty Simpson and

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Speaker 1: Jalen Milroe who's going to emerge. Surely will know by

588
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Speaker 1: the A Day game. And it was so much less

589
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Speaker 1: clear by the A Day game. Nick Saban went and

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Speaker 1: got himself a third starting quarterback candidate in Buckner from

591
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, and now it's even less clear. Alabama figured

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Speaker 1: out a way to make their quarterback position less clear

593
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Speaker 1: through spring practice, but they are still right up there

594
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Speaker 1: as one of the playoff favorites and SEC favorites as well.

595
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: Why same reason as Ohio State. If you've got a

596
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Speaker 1: half decent option at quarterback, all the pieces are around him.

597
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Speaker 1: I really don't know where the skill is in predicting this.

598
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: I really don't. I have a very reputable people around

599
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Speaker 1: that athletic program that say different things. Ty Simpson, if

600
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Speaker 1: you guess him, they'll say, well, he's not quite as

601
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Speaker 1: demonstrative a leader as the other guys. Well, who is

602
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Speaker 1: oh Milrose kind of an alpha dog, but his passing,

603
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: we could take it or leave it, could be hit

604
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Speaker 1: or miss. Well what about Buckner, Well he's Tommy Reese's

605
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: chosen candidate, but he's got the least familiarity with the program.

606
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Speaker 1: So who knows Hoops knows that is a key quarterback battle.

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Speaker 1: You can also go over to Ole Miss. Ole Miss

608
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Speaker 1: is probably gonna be a little more off the radar nationally,

609
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Speaker 1: not as much as expected. But they got Spencer Sanders

610
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Speaker 1: who came in there from Oklahoma State. You know, I

611
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Speaker 1: don't know that many people remember that, by the way,

612
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Speaker 1: you should, But I don't know that many people have

613
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Speaker 1: that on the radar. Jackson Dart is there and Walker Howard.

614
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Speaker 1: They also went and got him from LSU. And I mean,

615
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Speaker 1: we got kids reclassifying up two grades to come in

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Speaker 1: there and compete. So who knows how this is going

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Speaker 1: to go. There are a number of them. Those are

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Speaker 1: just three that I've got my eye on. Think about that,

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Speaker 1: two are in the SEC West alone, and two out

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Speaker 1: of the three heavily are going to be involved in

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Speaker 1: determining the college football playoff picture. So gimme Ohio State,

622
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: gimme Bama, gimme ole miss. That is not an exhaustive list.

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Speaker 1: Moving right along, Shantrey asked, what are the chances of

624
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Speaker 1: the PAC twelve being the best conference this year? Well,

625
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Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen, Shantry. That doesn't mean I'm down

626
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Speaker 1: on the PAC twelve. There's a difference in it's going

627
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Speaker 1: to be exciting versus it's going to be the best.

628
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Speaker 1: And there's a difference between it's gonna be the best

629
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Speaker 1: to watch versus it's going to be the best. The

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Speaker 1: best means you got to have dominant line of scrimmage

631
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Speaker 1: play point blank. They don't have it out West. They've

632
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Speaker 1: got good quarterback play, or they should. They do not

633
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Speaker 1: have dominant line of scrimmage play. They don't have enough

634
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Speaker 1: talent to recruit from. The talent pool has dried up

635
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Speaker 1: when it comes to O line and D line. Even

636
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Speaker 1: USC and Oregon, who get to recruit basically their pick

637
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: of who's on the West coast, they've acknowledged we got

638
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Speaker 1: to go east, we got to go to Texas, we

639
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Speaker 1: got to go to the South to get linemen. And

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Speaker 1: some of those other programs don't have that luxury. They

641
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: just have to recruit their backyard. The Arizona Schools, Utah, Oregon, State, Washington.

642
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Speaker 1: They may look good to you against other Pac twelve teams,

643
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: I think we all understand if they go up against Georgia,

644
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: it's an entirely different story. That's why Oregon stacking the

645
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: defensive line talent they're stacking is such a big deal

646
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: to me, because no one out there is doing that.

647
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: Even USC is not doing it depth wise the way

648
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: Oregon is. But as a conference as a whole, now

649
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: you're barking up the wrong tree if you're trying to

650
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: get me to say the PAC two is going to

651
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: be the best conference Now, if we wanted to go

652
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 1: a different route and we wanted to say, which one's

653
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: going to be the most fun to watch this year,

654
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 1: I think the answer may be the Pac twelve. I

655
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: think the Pac twelve this year could be the Big

656
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: Twelve from last year. You never would have heard me say, oh,

657
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: the Big twelve is the best conference in the country

658
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 1: this year. You would have heard me vehemently pushback if

659
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: someone started to crap on the Big Twelve last year,

660
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: confusing it with just any other year. Last year was

661
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: not any other year in the Big Twelve. That's why

662
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: I think TCU actually belonged in the playoff. Did they

663
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: get smoked, Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that

664
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: they deserve to be there in my mind, and that's

665
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 1: because I think they went undefeated in the regular season

666
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: in a very competitive conference. I think the Pac twelve

667
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: could look the same way this year. Moving along, this

668
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: one comes to us by way of Jerusalem, Israel. Nathan said,

669
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 1: why does ever ever think Luke Fickle will do so

670
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: incredible in year one? I'm sure he'll be good, but

671
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: it seems like a lot of people are picking Wisconsin

672
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: to destroy the Big ten West In his very first year.

673
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: It just seems overly optimistic for year one with all

674
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: the changes. Well, Nathan, I know Wisconsin is the favorite

675
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: in the odds market to win the West, but they're

676
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: not an overwhelming favorite. In fact, there is no overwhelming

677
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: anything other than mystery in the Big ten West. And

678
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: enjoy that because this is the last year we will

679
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: say Big ten West. They do away with divisions next year.

680
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that this is true, Nathan. I appreciate

681
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: the question, and I do think maybe most people will

682
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: pick Wisconsin. When people pick Wisconsin, here's how it's gonna sound.

683
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: I guess I'll take Wisconsin to win the West. I

684
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: don't think you're gonna have many people say Wisconsin by

685
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: thirty every week. Book it. Boys, bet money you don't

686
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: even have on Wisconsin because you won't have to worry

687
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: about losing. I don't get that sent I've not heard

688
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: that from anyone, Jesse, have you heard that from anyone?

689
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: I don't think I've heard that from anyone. What I

690
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: have heard is trepidation. I've heard cautiousness, and Nathan, the

691
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: way I see it, and if I pick Wisconsin, the

692
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 1: way I'll pick Wisconsin is almost because there's a lack

693
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: of another quality option? What is Iowa offensively this year? Illinois?

694
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: Are they really going to go from being a good

695
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: story to challenging to win a division? Is Purdue going

696
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: to be there again? Matt Ruhle in year one has

697
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: not been a guy who's exploded on the national scene.

698
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,360
Speaker 1: At jobs he's had, It's normally been year two or

699
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,359
Speaker 1: year three. So is he going to do it this year?

700
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: PJ Fleck in Minnesota? Is that who's going to overtake him?

701
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 1: If any of the big three in the East were

702
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: in the West, that would be a slam dunk, definitive

703
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: overwhelming favorite. Wisconsin's not an overwhelming favorite, I don't think

704
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: by any stretch of the imagination I've heard anyone say that.

705
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: So that's where I am on Wisconsin. They're the favorite

706
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 1: for a reason, and Luke Fickl's very very good. But yeah,

707
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: there is a lot of change up there. Yeah, you're

708
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: installing a brand new Offen, which I'm excited to see.

709
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: By the way, they got Tanner Mordecai pulling the trigger

710
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Some people think they're very underrated at receiver.

711
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm just ready to see the reaction in Madison when

712
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: there's a game where they actually throw the ball more

713
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,720
Speaker 1: than they run it. I don't know this's ever happened

714
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: up there, all right. Moving on from Sterlington, Louisiana AJ asked,

715
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: do you think an eight game playoff is a better format? Well, AJ,

716
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't think any expanded playoff is a better format.

717
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: But in the world we're in right now, in the

718
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 1: twelve team well, the world we will be in, the

719
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: world we will be in is twelve teams, six auto

720
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: bids for the highest ranked conference champs, and six at larges. Sure,

721
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: I take eight. I take anything that's smaller than twelve.

722
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: But what is the eight Because even when we talk

723
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: about this, there's a lot of disagreement. If we had

724
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: an eight team playoff, should it be the five Power

725
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: five conference champs and three at larges? Should it be

726
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: five Power five champs, one G five spot and two

727
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: at large's. I'm not for any of that. I don't

728
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 1: like auto bids at all. I don't believe in them.

729
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: So any playoff field I think should just be the

730
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: top fill in the blank number of teams, six, eight, twelve,

731
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: one hundred. However big your playoff is, just give me

732
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,959
Speaker 1: the top teams. I get disagreement on that from people

733
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: who say, well, you've got to make conference championship games matter.

734
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 1: They always did. We did a segment a couple of

735
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: weeks ago about the Florida versus Alabama two thousand and

736
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: eight two thousand and nine SEC title games, and I

737
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 1: was talking about how I thought that was as big

738
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: as college football's ever felt to me. Back in I

739
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: think it was nine, and may have been in that

740
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: same season nine. Remember Texas played Nebraska and Dominican Sioux

741
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: was at Nebraska and Texas barely squeaked by in that

742
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: Big twelve championship game. We had the seven season where

743
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: Oklahoma beats Missouri in the Big twelve championship game that

744
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 1: keeps them out of the BCS title game. When are

745
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: you telling me conference title games didn't matter? No, you

746
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: screwed that up when you went to the expanded playoff.

747
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: And one of the very predictable ramifications was, uh, oh

748
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: people care about conference title games less. Now, well, how

749
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 1: do we manufacture people carrying again? Oh, we'll just expand

750
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: the playoff more and will make you win your conference.

751
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: If you're gonna have a top six seed. Well, that's lame.

752
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: Because not all conferences are created equal. And if we're

753
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: in a tournament where we're just trying to decide the

754
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 1: best teams in the country and the field is twelve,

755
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: not one. The field is twelve, it's possible for two

756
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: or three or four of the best teams in the

757
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: country any given year to reside in the same conference,

758
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 1: to reside in the same division of the same conference.

759
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: And so anyone who said, well, you shouldn't be in

760
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: the top six if you can't even win your own conference,

761
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: that's garbage. That's complete garbage. It's a manufactured system to

762
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: try and manufacture people caring about conference title games. Well,

763
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: that used to not be a problem. So now what

764
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: we want more of the problem to clean up the problem. Whatever.

765
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: But as for the question, yeah, I love it. If

766
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: you wanted playoff expansion, you know what I was on

767
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: board with. I didn't want to expand it, But if

768
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: you wanted to expand it, I thought a six team

769
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: playoff with the first two getting buys. I thought that

770
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:27,320
Speaker 1: would have been fun because that would incentivize obviously locking

771
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 1: down a top seed. It would have given you your

772
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: press's expansion. It would have given you the concept of

773
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: having a first round by and you could have had

774
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 1: first round games on campus. I thought that would have

775
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: checked all the boxes. But Nope, we couldn't do that

776
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: because it didn't guarantee enough seats at the table for

777
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: underachieving conferences eroding more and more by the day to

778
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: have a guaranteed spot there. It shouldn't be on me

779
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: to guarantee you anything. Go earn your way in. How

780
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 1: about that? That's why I cannot be on the playoff

781
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: committee because I'm too real about this stuff, and I

782
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: am not for manufacturing a little sand castle where everyone's

783
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: got a room and it doesn't matter how bad you

784
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 1: suck during the year, someone deserves a chance from your conference.

785
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: No they don't. No, they do not in the JP playoff.

786
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: At least in the real world playoff. I guess they do.

787
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: Was that negative enough for you? Next thing up, All

788
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: Things Endy from Lancaster, PA. Important questions here. Listen closely?

789
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: Can you drop the white T shirt brand? Or your

790
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: workout split? And another one of you asked, why won't

791
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: you tell the story behind your white T shirt? As

792
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: you can see if you're watching the little Actually you're

793
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: not watching because this isn't on air. But if you

794
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: were watching the show right now, if you're watching the podcast,

795
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: I don't wear the white T shirt to do the

796
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: late Kick Extra Pop. I don't wear the white T

797
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: shirt when we're on the road. I only wear it

798
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 1: in the studio. There are a few reasons for that.

799
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:06,080
Speaker 1: I'll give you one reason because it kind of goes

800
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: back to a story I told about twenty minutes ago

801
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: in this pod. When we started doing this show, and

802
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: I was not contractually allowed to have creative control, I

803
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: didn't have that luxury. I didn't have that leverage. I

804
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: had to dress the way people said I had to dress.

805
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: I had to do the format the way people said

806
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: I had to do it. And that's the breaks. Okay,

807
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 1: you don't get to come out of the gate calling

808
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: the shots. Well, I've always thought it's dumb to get

809
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: dressed up in five thousand dollars suits to talk about sports.

810
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: I've always just conceptually I've never gotten it. Yeah, I'm

811
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: all for you dressing however you want to. I've always

812
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 1: thought it was dumb, Like when me and my buddies

813
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 1: talk about sports, we're never wearing a three piece suit, never,

814
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 1: nor are you. So why would people dress up to

815
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: talk about it to me on TV. Well, that's the

816
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,320
Speaker 1: way it's been done for a thousand years. I have

817
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: always believed it's unnecessary, and so I always told myself,

818
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: when when I get my own show, i'mna dress however

819
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 1: I want to. Well, I tried that, and I got

820
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: pushed back on it once upon a time. I got

821
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: pushed back on it, and so I had to wear,

822
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: you know, sport coat on air. Felt stupid because I

823
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: was talking about college football. I mean, I don't really

824
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: think that you need to be looking at me saying, oh,

825
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 1: that's a nice jacket when I'm telling you why I

826
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: like Auburn minus the point Saturday. But it happened, and

827
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: so I made it a point. Told myself, when there

828
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: is a day when I can dress how I want to,

829
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be emphatic about it. I'm gonna make a

830
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: statement with it, because I told management at the time,

831
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,439
Speaker 1: I said, you should just let me wear a white

832
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 1: T shirt every night. The audience doesn't care, was my message.

833
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: They care about the quality of content. They care about

834
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 1: you talking about what they want and bringing you the

835
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: information and entertainment and intel they want. They don't care

836
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: about what you're wearing. In fact, on a show like this,

837
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: they might as well close their eyes or as you

838
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: would call it, a podcast like the visual doesn't even

839
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 1: matter to them. And I knew I was right because

840
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: I was one of you. I knew I was right

841
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,960
Speaker 1: because I think the same way you guys do. So

842
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: lo and behold, we get to where we can do

843
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: our own show. I said, you know what we're about

844
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: to do. I'm about to wear a white T shirt

845
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: every show. I've never stopped. And guess what, our numbers

846
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: have only gone up because, as it turns out, you

847
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: really don't care what people are wearing on air as

848
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 1: long as they're bringing you what you want. And by

849
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: the way, if I put on a tuxedo and deliver

850
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: a terrible show, you're not going to tune in, Nor

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Speaker 1: should you, nor do I when it comes to well

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Speaker 1: dressed people who put out stuff I don't like. So

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Speaker 1: that's the white T shirt. That's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: for the white T shirt. As for the workout split,

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Speaker 1: very quickly, here do legs. Twice a week. I do

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Speaker 1: a six day workout split. I go legs, chest, back, legs, shoulders, arm.

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Speaker 1: On arm day, I do buys, tries and forearms. You

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Speaker 1: do not need to do isolation bicep day if you're

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Speaker 1: doing if you're doing back the way you should, you're

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Speaker 1: working your bicep enough and your arms are getting enough

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Speaker 1: work to where you don't need to be overly emphasizing

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Speaker 1: those things. Do arms one day a week. So leg, chest, back, leg, shoulder, arm,

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Speaker 1: start over again, leg, Get yourself a ton of protein,

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Speaker 1: and you're probably gonna be good. Oh, by the way,

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Speaker 1: why are you guys waiting hours after you leave the

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Speaker 1: gym to eat. Have the protein in your bag in

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Speaker 1: the gym. You ought to be drinking that protein before

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Speaker 1: you ever get out of there. When you've torn down

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Speaker 1: that muscle, it is imperative that you feed it as

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Speaker 1: soon as you can hydrate and get your protein before

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Speaker 1: you even leave the gym. Get it in there. That's

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Speaker 1: all the advice I have for today. Next up, the

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Speaker 1: Angry Pigskin asks will there ever be an episode of

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Speaker 1: Late Kick that isn't jam packed? No, there will not be.

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Speaker 1: That's the answer to this question. No, there will not be.

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Speaker 1: That's all I wanted to say about that. We've been

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Speaker 1: doing an hour and a half per show lately and

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Speaker 1: numbers have been good. You haven't been tuning out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what else do we have to do. This is our

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00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: only job. It's not like I have to go talk

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00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: NBA free agency after the show. So yeah, we're going

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00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 1: to be jam packed as long as you will allow

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Speaker 1: us to be jam packed. Am from Boulder, Colorado said,

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Speaker 1: is Dion Sanders the most divisive personality in college football?

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Speaker 1: Even more so than Dabbo and Jimbo, who you've already

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Speaker 1: touched on. Let's talk about the word divisive. I had

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Speaker 1: to look divisive up earlier today, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: I've got a laptop in front of me right now,

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Speaker 1: so I'm actually going to look it up even as

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Speaker 1: we're recording. Because here's the thing. I think the word divisive,

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Speaker 1: or the feeling let me rephrase, the feeling I get

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Speaker 1: when I say the word divisive is different than the definition.

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Speaker 1: The definition of divisive is tending to cause disagreement or

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Speaker 1: hostility between people. When you tell me a person is divisive,

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Speaker 1: I think of them as being a bad person. But

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Speaker 1: in reality, someone being divisive is not necessarily indicative of

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Speaker 1: them being a bad person. So, by the letter of

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Speaker 1: the word and its definition, Deon Sanders is a divisive person,

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Speaker 1: but it doesn't make him a bad person. It just

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Speaker 1: anybody who is a change agent is going to be divisive.

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Speaker 1: When I think of divisive people, I think of like

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Speaker 1: if someone were to walk in a room and say

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Speaker 1: I don't like any of the women in here just

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Speaker 1: because they're women. That's a bad person. That's divisive. If

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Speaker 1: someone comes in and says I like spaghetti, and people

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Speaker 1: start fighting amongst themselves because half of the room doesn't

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Speaker 1: like spaghetti. Not a bad person, they just like spaghetti

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Speaker 1: or pasquetti, as Mema would say. Dion walked in and said,

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Speaker 1: I am going to overhaul a roster, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to use nil to do it, and I'm going to

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Speaker 1: use the portal because the rules will let me aka

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Speaker 1: the college football version of I like spaghetti. And then

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Speaker 1: a bunch of anti spaghetti folks started yelling back, you're

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Speaker 1: a terrible person, Dion. Well, he's not a terrible person,

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Speaker 1: but he is a change agent, and he is overturning

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Speaker 1: the college football table. Some people like it, some people don't.

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Speaker 1: I'm just fascinated by it. I am a rare commodity,

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Speaker 1: I guess much as I am with Jimbo Fisher. I'm

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Speaker 1: just sitting here watching. I actually kind of love Dion.

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Speaker 1: I'm just indifferent on Jimbo. I kind of love Deon.

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Speaker 1: But if it works out, if it doesn't work out,

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Speaker 1: either way we'll learn something. I think the biggest shock

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Speaker 1: in college football this year would be if Colorado just

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Speaker 1: wins six games, which would be a huge overachievement. Everybody's

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Speaker 1: going to look at his model, including some of the

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Speaker 1: people who criticized it, and say, uh oh, let me

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Speaker 1: backspace over my criticism. I may need to go about that,

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Speaker 1: especially new coaches new because new coaches have the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to do things that establish ones don't. There's some NCAA

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Speaker 1: rules that allow you to do things first year on

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Speaker 1: the job that subsequently you can't do when it comes

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Speaker 1: to roster management and reconstruction. So new coaches, you know

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Speaker 1: you get fired today. Let's say you've been critical of Dion.

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Speaker 1: You get fired today, You get a new job two

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Speaker 1: years from now, and by that time, Dion's winning big

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Speaker 1: using his approach. You're going to employ some of his approach.

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. You look like hypocrite in

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Speaker 1: the process, but there's no doubt in my mind that

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Speaker 1: a lot of people who are critical of him now

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Speaker 1: will end up using his approach if it works. That's

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Speaker 1: a tale as old as time. Criticize it, then steal

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Speaker 1: it once it works. So I guess he is divisive.

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Speaker 1: I just don't I think divisive. I think we should

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Speaker 1: have another word. It's like turf toe. I think we

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Speaker 1: should have something that sounds worse than turf toe to

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Speaker 1: describe turf toe, because turf tow sounds minor. Yet if

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Speaker 1: you've ever had turf toe, it's terrible. Well, divisive sounds terrible,

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Speaker 1: But divisive people are not always terrible. Sometime sometimes they're

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Speaker 1: doing something that it needs to be done, and some

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Speaker 1: stubborn people are actually the problem in the room. Think

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Speaker 1: about that. Hey, do me a favor while you're listening.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe to the podcast. Subscribe to the podcast. I put

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Speaker 1: out the challenge the other day on the YouTube channel.

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Speaker 1: I'll put it out here too. Two hundred thousand subs

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Speaker 1: by the time we kick off. That's what we need.

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Speaker 1: Why do we need it? Because I just want to

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Speaker 1: get there. And there's no more pure form of motivation

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Speaker 1: than that we're all in this together. We always have been,

959
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Speaker 1: always will be. That my peaky promise to you, So

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Speaker 1: do me a favor. Sub to the YouTube channel and

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Speaker 1: the pod and they get five of your friends to

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Speaker 1: do the same thing, because let's be real, they need

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Speaker 1: it whether they know it or not. Until Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: that's when we'll come to you with Late Kick live

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Speaker 1: on that YouTube channel. You'll get the pod here Friday morning.

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Speaker 1: Until then, for Bradley, the associate for producer Jesse for

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Speaker 1: a direct Colin, I'm Josh Bate. Take care, have a

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Speaker 1: great rest of your day. Hey, God bless