WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Kellen Moore's Impact? 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.000 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:16.800 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's talking Cowboys 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:20.239 training live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:32.800 Star in Frisco. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, Rob Phillips, 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:38.479 and Bill Jones, and welcome to the two thousand nineteen 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:43.839 season of Dallas Cowboys football, which commences right now with 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:48.520 the start of OTAs here at the Star in Frisco. 0:00:48.640 --> 0:00:51.159 Are you excited, Mickey Spagnola, You have a smile on 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:53.840 your face. You're making this the official shot it is 0:00:53.840 --> 0:00:58.000 season because this is the first time, this is the 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:01.560 first time the entire team has been on the field 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.559 together at Ford Center at the Star in Frisco. It's 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.560 happening right now right more or less, more or less, 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.479 we've established the fact the rookies haven't gathered with the veterans, 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:16.600 and so now you've got the entire team together for 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:19.240 the first time here on May twenty first, Can I 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:23.640 wait two thousand ninete, Can I wait till Tank Lawrence 0:01:23.760 --> 0:01:25.840 is back on the field before I say this is 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:27.760 the official start of the season. Can I just get 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.520 ninety back and then we say that I'm gonna wait 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:35.120 till September. How about that. That's I'm so dramatic though, Yeah, 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:37.560 I was so dramatic like that, Bill, you must be 0:01:37.600 --> 0:01:41.119 in the TV business. It's way overly dramatic. But okay, 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:42.800 we'll go. I get it, though, man, I get it. 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.760 Sell it. The helmets are on, the helmets are on, 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:49.240 they're doing stuff. But yeah, what do voluntary mean? Yeah? 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:55.400 Oh yeah, it is volunt Wait wait, wait until tomorrow. 0:01:55.560 --> 0:01:58.560 Minicamp next month will be the official start. Okay, wait 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.080 a minute. What do you got on? But that watch? 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.520 I can't see? Yeah, but look at it. What's wrong 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:09.480 with it? It's awesome, it's what it is. Yeah, it's gold, 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:13.080 it's baller. There it is. I can't see. That's my problem. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:16.840 Was that a bull gift? No, it's just so you 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.639 played before there were such things. Yeah, I wish I 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.360 miss I missed the bull watch I got. I've got 0:02:22.400 --> 0:02:24.679 all my bull watches though, but they're all too small. No, 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:28.000 I can't see anymore, Mick. That's my problem. That has 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.120 to be big enough for me to see. Can you 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.639 see what time it is? There about? It's time for 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.760 the start of a cowboy season? There we go. I'm sorry, Mick, 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:39.160 I just that site couldn't see I just saw it. 0:02:39.560 --> 0:02:42.239 I appreciate that. Thanks all that big white band. Yeah, 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:44.320 I need a summer watch. Goes my summer watch. It 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:48.400 goes well, a super Bowl ring you guys, solid gold, No, 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.200 not that solid gold, Mickey. It's just it's kind of 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:53.400 a gift to myself. So and leave it to Mickey 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:56.080 to derail the Cowboys season as soon as we get 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:58.720 to start it. Yeah, that's okay, I appreciate. We're fine 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:04.040 by eleven old four. It's derailed by mixing the dramatic 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:08.679 opening you had derailed the scene. Everybody was ready to 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.359 go until you get a big voice guy on some 0:03:11.919 --> 0:03:15.959 distractable player. Exactly, Yes, you are speaking of that guy. Yeah, 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:21.320 all right, So you know they are indoors. Fords are 0:03:21.320 --> 0:03:23.720 all the practice is going to be indoors because their 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.359 instruction going on outdoors. There is one field available, but 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.239 they're not gonna use it. They're not gonna use They're 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:32.120 gonna play indoors till we get to From what I 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:35.320 heard and talking to Chris the field man, he says 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.120 he will not have this ready until training camp, until 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.240 after we get back from training camp. The other field 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:43.120 will not be ready, so they'll do everything inside for 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.360 the next month or so. Yeah, they didn't have any choice. 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.080 Today it's raining. Yeah, it is raining today and so 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:53.480 uh and Mickey give us an update on the construction 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.200 going on out there exactly. There's gonna be a big announcement, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:04.440 I believe tomorrow afternoon, the third construction of the Doctor 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:09.160 Pepper building that will take up the players parking lot. 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.960 But that's the most involved process I've ever seen to 0:04:14.040 --> 0:04:17.920 put down another grass field. He's been out there surveying things. Yes, 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.600 he's very in tune with so much stuff. What are 0:04:21.640 --> 0:04:23.720 they doing. They're building a building, that's what they're doing. 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:27.040 But there's going to be a grass field there. Yeah, 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:28.720 but they had to make they had to make a 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:34.080 for the fire. Why are we talking about that? God? 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:41.000 And when our rating sucks sometimes cover your watch what 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:48.880 they're building up. Some cowboys. That cowboy. This is cowboys. 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:51.120 They built a cement wall in the ground. Yeah, but 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.160 Mickey down, everybody gets to see what you and I 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:55.479 get to see every day. They're putting a they're putting 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:57.760 a fire lane around. They have to have the fire 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:59.960 lane built, so they have to move the field, build 0:05:00.080 --> 0:05:03.120 the fire lane, and then now we can have a field. 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.800 So they have to build the fire lane first that 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:07.840 goes all the way around the buildings. So that the 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:09.840 explanation I was looking for it kind of like a 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.840 fire we could allo on your computer. We could have 0:05:11.920 --> 0:05:16.080 had this offline, but no, I asked it right now. 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.040 He's six minutes in fifty four minutes of construction topic. 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:22.160 People want us to pull the crew. And there is 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:26.200 one thing that we all Cowboys fans and everyone in 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:31.520 this building praying for that what happens during OTAs here 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:35.240 is not the same thing that happened yesterday in Washington, 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.440 and that would be a player, a key player going 0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:42.440 down with an injury ring first snap. They've had that happen. 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.120 Remember Sean Lee yep, and was five years ago to fourteen. 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.360 Zach Martin. Yeah, that's that's that's the biggest fear that 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.320 you have of And when you when you get on 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:54.400 the field, you're all excited to see the rookies and 0:05:54.480 --> 0:05:58.360 the veterans, and Mickey has talked about this before. How 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:02.160 do these rookie's practice? How do they learn to practice? 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:05.400 The veteran guys know tempo, They understand how to work 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:07.600 with each other. You know, are you going to have 0:06:07.800 --> 0:06:11.480 a rookie that's a little uh conxuberant, trying to make 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.080 a rambunctious whatever word you want to use that I 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.480 can't spell. You have to worry about that. You have 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.480 to worry about guys planting, turning, I mean injuries part 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.120 of this game, but you don't want it during an 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:26.080 OTA where something you know, I mean the other day 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.080 with Webber, I mean him, you know now I having 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.360 to get an MRI. Everything indications everything's back, he's back 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.000 to practice and stuff like that. But you just don't 0:06:34.080 --> 0:06:37.760 want anything to derail your start of your season as 0:06:37.760 --> 0:06:41.040 you go to camp. And you mentioned Zach Martin and 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:44.120 that twenty fourteen Martin was a rookie. He was a 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:45.360 rookie and he was and he did a great It 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:50.800 was a great block on Yeah, he eliminated uh Sean Lee, 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:54.080 but Sean was trying to plant redirect and knee gave 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.680 out so that he had a bad knee anyway, Yeah, 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.320 that's a freak thing. But that's another reason. And why 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:03.000 if these guys have a little something, you're not going 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.400 to see him out here. And I know Tank and 0:07:05.560 --> 0:07:08.960 Byron Jones wouldn't be ready for this anyway. But you're 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:11.320 gonna see those guys hopefully week one. You're not going 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:12.840 to see him try to push to get back in 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.760 training camp. You know they're gonna bubble wrap guys this time. 0:07:15.800 --> 0:07:18.600 You gotta have your key guys healthy and so um. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:20.960 It's probably why you're not going to see everybody out 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:22.600 here in the OTAs. You know. That's one of the 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.040 reasons why back in the day when they were training, 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:28.720 I had training camp in Thousand Oaks. Tom would bring 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:35.520 in the rookies ahead of time for right and and 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:38.440 there were other reasons why they brought him in early, 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:41.120 but one of the reasons were to get the rookies 0:07:41.840 --> 0:07:46.360 exuberance out of them for a week. Entire veterans got there. 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:50.000 They don't come in and ruin Tony Dorset or I 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:57.120 think as happened in nineteen eighty nine, they had signed 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.120 a rookie running or a free agent running back. No, 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:03.560 it was ninety because it was stands some stands Pagala 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:08.920 from stands Megala, Yeah, And he took out the the 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.960 veteran running back on the first practice and tore his 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.440 knee up. It was touched down somebody from Nebraska. I 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.720 can't remember the guys, Tommy Vardell, No, no, it wasn't 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.760 stand for from Stanford, but anyway, it was. That was 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:27.320 an example of you have contact right away and there 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.200 this guy's gonna make a big tackle on the sideline. 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:32.520 He takes out your ring back. He's just spent free 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.840 agent money on well. And speaking of that, they're an 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:37.839 injury this morning at OTA's the Buffalo Bills. They're big 0:08:37.920 --> 0:08:41.400 free agent tight end signing. Tyler Kroft goes down with 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:45.040 a I believe it was a fractured foot, and he's 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:48.280 lost for four months at least. It looks like they 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:51.160 just spent eighteen million dollars over the next three years 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:55.000 for him. Bill, Why why are you making me worried 0:08:55.040 --> 0:08:58.319 all of a sudden about Jones over here? Don't worry. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:02.120 The trainers are already worried. Yeah, this is not their breath. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:04.760 This is not a fun time in Yere. Again, this 0:09:04.920 --> 0:09:06.959 part is not fun. But you got to get out 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.559 there at some point, and and you know, because of 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.320 the new CBA, you're already reduced on what you can 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.240 do on the field anyway, so this is valuable time. 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.200 Before you get the training camp, whether you're in pads 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.120 or not. So what's the big thing they try to 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:23.120 accomplish during OTAs? Get them lined up? Yeah? Yeah, I 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:25.320 mean to me, this is when when you go out 0:09:25.320 --> 0:09:28.480 to the OTA field to watch practice on tomorrow, just 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.280 take a take a peek of where they're playing guys in. Again, 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.640 you got a factor in injuries of guys. Like Rob 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.840 was saying that some guys won't be practicing, But if they're, 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.080 if they're moving guys in multiple positions, if they if 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:44.040 they're taking safer example, they're taking one of the Jackson, 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:46.920 the defensive tack defensive end from Miami, and they're playing 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:49.439 him on the left and right side. That give you 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.720 a little indication that they feel like, Okay, this kid, 0:09:51.840 --> 0:09:54.199 we're gonna throw something at him and see if he 0:09:54.320 --> 0:09:58.400 can handle both the safety we're talking about the safety 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.000 from Texas A and m Yesterday, Yeah, Wilson, if you 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:05.760 listen to yesterday to the show UM Hanging with the Boys, 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.079 Will McClay was on and he was talking about some 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:11.560 of Nate asked a question about some flexibility with him, 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.599 his ability to play at the slot. Will's like, yeah, absolutely, 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:16.640 the more things. You can get these guys to do 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.720 catch catch where they're playing guys, and if guys are 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:23.800 playing on the first and second team, maybe that will 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:25.400 give you a little bit of an indication of what 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:28.079 they think about these guys and how we're going to 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.920 see him used at training camp. That's a great point 0:10:30.920 --> 0:10:34.080 because if they if they like a guy, they'll try 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.559 him at different spots. Right and just in case, you know, 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.120 injuries happened during the season, if it were in a pinch, 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.160 can this guy do it right? And that's it's a 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:43.040 test for a guy that they have some some faith 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.679 in or belief in their ability make you you like 0:10:46.760 --> 0:10:49.240 to chime in. I thought that was very well said yeah, 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.880 because because I mean they're they're lining up offensive defense, 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:54.719 but they're not in pads. It's hard to judge what 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:58.480 the offensive defensive linemen are doing. Like johad Ward last 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.800 year looked great and he's out. He Rod Marinelli kept telling, 0:11:01.880 --> 0:11:04.520 But Rod Marinelli kept telling us, I really like him. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:06.400 We got to see what the pad's on. He did 0:11:06.480 --> 0:11:08.079 say that a bunch and we got the training camp 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:10.319 and it was a different story. But like me out 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.079 there playing, but like you said, lining up see where 0:11:13.160 --> 0:11:15.000 guys line up and how guys are moving around. You 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.040 can watch, you know, pay attention more to the skill 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.360 guys in the in the defensive backs more so, I think, 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:22.440 than than the lines, you know. And because of how 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:26.520 many guys they'll have very limited in these workouts, there's 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.280 some young guys are gonna get an opportunity to get 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:32.960 out there and get some snaps they normally wouldn't get. 0:11:33.440 --> 0:11:36.679 If Taco Charlton was out there, and Anton Woods was 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.720 out there, if DeMarcus Lawrence was out there, then somebody 0:11:40.800 --> 0:11:43.160 gets pushed down. But now everybody kind of gets to 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.960 move up a step and you get opportunity to at 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.720 least show him that, Okay, I know where to line up, 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:50.839 I know what the plate calls are, I know what 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:55.480 my responsibilities are and go from there. But again, I 0:11:56.080 --> 0:11:59.800 think what always gets lost in these things is this 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:04.760 is practice, right. They're teaching these rookies things that they 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:07.959 haven't done before, and it's a little too early to 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:10.719 start grading guys, and it's like this guy can't do this, 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.040 or if y'all do it, and who's winning well like 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.960 position battles, and he kind of gotta wait till pad's 0:12:17.000 --> 0:12:19.719 come on. But yeah, this is where though, But this 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:23.559 is where with no Travis Frederick. Yeah, this will be 0:12:23.760 --> 0:12:27.319 interesting to see if they play McGovern at center like 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:29.040 he was doing in the rookie Yeah, well he will. 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.199 Will he be a guy that they're saying, Okay, we're 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.000 gonna we're going to either you know, he'll be probably 0:12:34.120 --> 0:12:37.920 Joe Looney and then will it be mcgoverned or who else? Well, 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:39.960 you know, they they they had the kid last year 0:12:40.040 --> 0:12:43.760 that they kept on the on the season the whole year. Anger, 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.400 No God, why am I the kid that they got? 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:53.640 Thankin apologize mister missus Redmond for forgetting your son's name. 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:55.480 But yeah, I mean he was a guy that played. 0:12:55.520 --> 0:13:00.839 Will will McGovern be over Redman playing center in this thing? 0:13:00.880 --> 0:13:03.920 Will we see him playing more guard? Where? Will we see? See? 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:05.880 That's what the things I'm gonna I'm gonna keep an 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.400 eye on, though, is how quickly they're gonna get some 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:11.520 of these guys incorporate and by you know, by injury 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:13.880 they're gonna happen. I think the defensive line is actually 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.319 gonna be a really a mess, and I mean it's 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:18.640 in a mess of it's all gonna be young guys. Well, 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.080 I don't think it's gonna be any I think there'll 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.280 be very few veterans that are actually playing with this 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:29.199 defensive line. So who's who's really having for me from surgeries? Uh, Lawrence, 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:35.240 Taco Woods, Woods, you can throw Frederick in there. I'm 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:39.719 talking defensive defensive line guys. Yeah, no, Randy Gregory, you 0:13:39.800 --> 0:13:43.600 know Gregory's not there. Yeah, um, the Saintan defensive line, 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:48.600 but Byron Jones won't be out there. So when you're 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.200 talking defensive line, it's gonna be a lot you're gonna 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:52.719 see there's gonna be a lot of young guys and 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:54.679 maybe a lot of these young guys are gonna get 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:56.480 to work against a lot of these veteran all pro 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.840 guys that you have, Joe Jackson, like you mentioned, Lawrence Armstrong, 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.719 the undrafted guys, Daniel Wise. They'll get some reps. Absolutely, 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.120 they will get and that that's that's the good thing 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:09.160 about is And and we'll get to see some we'll 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.040 see a veteran guy or two maybe with with Christian Covington, 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.000 you know, Hider, those guys. You guys will get some 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.719 opportunity there, but it won't I don't I don't think 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.320 when they go out there, that first defensive line will 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:22.960 not look anything like what you're probably gonna think. It's 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:27.840 when Collins good to go? Is he? No? I didn't 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:29.600 hear any problems with him, Mickey, You and I went 0:14:29.640 --> 0:14:32.520 through that thin. Didn't you write that down? We're it's 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:35.120 going to run today. Okay, Okay, Mickey's got a story 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.040 had I had it in Mick shots and then they 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:39.520 decided let's break out. Okay, Mickey did a thing where 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:42.720 he Nicky's got injured, He's got it all. Mickey's got 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:46.080 the whole thing. We met with the proper folks and 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:48.680 they kind of took us down a path that we 0:14:48.760 --> 0:14:51.440 need to go. So and a lot of these guys 0:14:51.480 --> 0:14:53.240 are going to be limited. They may go out there 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:58.680 and do like individual drills, you know, skeleton stuff, and 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.680 then when they go on eleven, they'll they'll be out 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.760 of there. You're not gonna see Lele Collins probably out there. 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.760 These quarterbacks, these backup quarterbacks need to have a good start, 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.760 you know. Yeah, I mean it's time for them to 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:13.880 kind of build on something. Take this next month and 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.440 kind of build on it where you're watching them every 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.600 day they look accurate, you know, they're not getting hit, 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.360 but they look like they're moving the team. They're making 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.200 good throws, they're making good decisions. That's a big that's 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.000 a big question mark to me. Right now they have 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:29.120 a fourth guy. They do not. And Stephen was asked 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:34.160 that yesterday when he talked at the complexity, uh kind 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.880 of that. Philip Nelson was the guy that they brought 0:15:36.960 --> 0:15:39.440 in to help out, and he said, somebody asked him, 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:40.680 are you going to bring in a fourth and he 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.520 goes not. Now, he goes, you know, those young guys 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.680 need all the snaps they can get. There you go 0:15:45.840 --> 0:15:48.680 and he goes in on top of that, Dak likes 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.240 a lot of snaps. He goes, we might bring one in, 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:55.280 but as of now, you know, these guys need snaps. 0:15:55.400 --> 0:15:57.840 They do. They need to figure that backup quarterback spot. 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.840 Somebody's gonna win this shop. Because we talked about this 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:03.920 every every week we go on. We could talk about 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:05.720 how this roster is going to be shaped, and then 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.280 when we get to ox Star, we're really going to 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:09.240 talk about how this thing is shaped. I don't think 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.360 you can keep three quarterbacks. I don't think you are 0:16:11.400 --> 0:16:14.520 four quarterbacks. Three quarterbacks. Yeah, I don't think you can 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.000 keep four tight ends. I mean, look at some of 0:16:17.040 --> 0:16:19.720 these positions and this is what OTAs is like. Okay, 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.040 let me see the numbers here. Okay, I've got these 0:16:22.120 --> 0:16:24.360 guys not practicing. I got these guys practice. Look at 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:27.200 the numbers and just say, wow, this is a spot 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:29.360 that they can't go long here. They can't go long here. 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:31.480 They can't go long here. Man, They've got to figure 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:33.480 us these things out. And I think these quarterbacks, I 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.960 think these quarterbacks need to get off on a good foot. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.520 The backup quarterbacks need to get off on a good foot. 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.520 And it kind of builds some momentum to where somebody 0:16:41.600 --> 0:16:44.800 wins this job this summer. Where do you think they 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:48.960 Cooper Rush and Mike Whiked, where do you if you 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:52.080 consider turn us into quarterback too? And we just got 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.600 a couple of minutes for our first break here, so 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:59.480 let's explore that right now. Who are are they in 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.720 a dead right now? What do you think? See? Cooper 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:05.359 Rush showed things as rookie preseason, and really that's how 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.040 he won the job. That's how he got on here. 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.040 And then last year, last year like a bag of 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:12.160 you know what, and both of them did Yeah, Am 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:14.600 I right? No, you're right, but you were looking for 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.880 one of them to step up? One was gonna, okay, 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:18.600 who was going to be the guy? Much does Mike 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.840 White improved from year one to year two? I was 0:17:20.960 --> 0:17:23.240 riding the Mike White train like it was no tomorrow. 0:17:23.359 --> 0:17:26.680 And what happened there? It's a it's a position we're 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:29.640 not talking about enough. We talked so much all offseason 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.119 about what happens something happens to Zeke, Well, Zeke never, 0:17:32.600 --> 0:17:34.679 Zeke never gets hurt. But what if something happens, well, 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.680 Dak Prescott never gets hurt. RAN's knocking on wood for me, 0:17:38.320 --> 0:17:41.359 what happens if Dak Prescott? Missus snaps? What happens like 0:17:41.560 --> 0:17:44.640 somebody saying, not saying they should have drafted a guy. 0:17:44.920 --> 0:17:47.600 But it was such a focus on backup running back. 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.400 Somebody need to step up at backup quarterback, no question, 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.120 no question. And the thing about it is we don't 0:17:53.160 --> 0:17:55.200 get an opportunity to early to I mean, the only 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:56.879 time we get the chance to look at him is 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:00.240 during training camp in preseason. Outside of this time year, 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.359 we can watch him a little bit on one day 0:18:02.400 --> 0:18:04.840 a week you're in OTAs, let's see if every week, 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:09.240 starting tomorrow, that the working with working with John Kitten 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:12.280 improves these guys. I'm not just talking about the backup guys. 0:18:12.760 --> 0:18:14.760 Let's see if we see a little improvement in Dak. 0:18:14.920 --> 0:18:18.640 Maybe something with footwork, maybe something with accuracy, maybe something 0:18:18.720 --> 0:18:21.040 with arm angle. Maybe there's something like man, he looks 0:18:21.080 --> 0:18:22.920 a little different through in. The ball looks a little different, 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:25.040 you know, the ball placement looks a little different here today. 0:18:25.400 --> 0:18:27.960 Every week we should see something that maybe leads us 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:31.000 to training camp to think. Because again I bring up 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:32.960 the thing about Connor Williams. We saw things with Connor 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:34.960 Williams and it's like point, it doesn't look strong. He 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.280 doesn't look strong enough right now. He doesn't look strong enough. 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.280 That was kind of something that we noticed in the 0:18:39.359 --> 0:18:41.680 OTAs and it carried over into training camp and he 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:44.679 struggled through the year. But let's try and find something 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:47.560 every week that day. Maybe this guy and these quarterbacks 0:18:47.720 --> 0:18:51.280 need to get better. They need to prove that they 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.720 are confident. If something happens to your starting quarter maybe 0:18:54.800 --> 0:18:57.200 John Kitten it can have a good influence because we 0:18:57.280 --> 0:18:59.760 talked about his relationship with Dak, but maybe he hadn't 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:03.440 get it number again. Yeah. Well, God, God, God, God 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:05.720 rest his soul. Wade Wilson. You know, I think that 0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:09.080 Wade Wilson that first year did the veteran quarterback guy, 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:13.600 the veteran president of a quarterback helped Dak Prescott along 0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:16.960 with along with Mark Sanchez. Let's see if if the 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:21.000 drills and harping on technique and all that will help 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:23.920 help these quarterbacks improve. And I think a big part 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:26.879 of it for Dak and making the transition his rookie 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.560 year is he knew Wade Wilson believed in him because 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.520 he was one of the Wade Wilson was a guy 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:36.359 that brought him here and absolutely and he was selling him. 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.000 They will admit that, the Scouts will admit that they 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:42.919 thought they had Dak Prescott and they didn't accept at 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.159 this time his rookie year, he was an afterthought. That's right. 0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:49.320 He was behind Jamil Chef was in many people's by 0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.520 the way. They thought they thought they had him. The 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:53.840 Scouts thought they had that guy. 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