1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 2: Third hour of Clay and Buck starts right now. Everybody. 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 2: We are going to dive into the latest on the 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 2: Biden crime family here in just a second. No surprise, 6 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: even more to add to the evidentiary pile that something 7 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: was very wrong, very corrupt, very illegal in the world 8 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 2: of Biden for a number of years there and not 9 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,560 Speaker 2: only was Hunter Biden all over, but Joe Biden had 10 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 2: to be aware of it, was a major player in it. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 2: We shall discuss some of those developments. I mean, first though, 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 2: Clay and I were talking about this, we wanted to 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: get back to what our last caller said, because he 14 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 2: calls in from Arizona and he starts laying out how 15 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: he sees things, and I'm sitting here and you know, 16 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: not all of you, some of you will see clips 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: of the show posted, but I'm sitting here looking at 18 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: Clay and we're both my our heads going yeah, yeah, 19 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 2: that's yes, agreed, agreed, agree with all of his assessments 20 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 2: about what's really going on in the country. But then 21 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: we have to think, okay, well, yeah, we agree. We're Republicans, 22 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: we're conservatives, we are open partisans and all this, let's 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: be clear about that. To win the next election, if 24 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 2: you're going to look at the data that exists, not 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: the data is perfect. There's a a lot of ways 26 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: to interpret data, a lot of different ways to slice 27 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 2: the onion right. It's not as straightforward it's just look 28 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: at the numbers. But if you're going to use twenty 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 2: twenty and twenty twenty two as your best indicators for 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: what's likely to be the electorate that you're dealing with 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, to establish what the trends are, 32 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: what the numbers, the percentages, the strength and weaknesses of 33 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: the the candidates will be, there's an there's some indicators 34 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: that you're going to have a hard time in some 35 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 2: places with independent and or swing voters with Donald Trump. Now, 36 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: Clay was making the argument before he went into the 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 2: break that he's talking about, you know, wives and how 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 2: you know you're not going to get a lot of 39 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: for some of the suburban moms out there who voted 40 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: for Biden the last time around, getting them to switch 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: or to change their mind this time around will be 42 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: a challenge. I also think that in all of this analysis, 43 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: when you look at twenty twenty, you have to add 44 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: what has happened since twenty twenty that this is not 45 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: from my perspective, This is not from Clay's perspective, where 46 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 2: I believe any of yours, although we have some we 47 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 2: have independence to listen to the show, but in general, 48 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: what has happened of significance in Trump world since twenty twenty. 49 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: Now we all sit here and say Biden sucks, which 50 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: is true, and bad at the job and too old 51 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: and corrupt. That that's all true. But for independent voters, 52 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: they're going to say, you didn't hit a huge recession. 53 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: It's the fact I thought it might still happen, but 54 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: it hasn't really happened yet. Inflation very high, very bad. 55 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 2: You know what the problem is, folks. You know what 56 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: The highest spending year of any president for the last 57 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: ten years is twenty twenty six trillion dollars. Now, you 58 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: can say that's not Trump's fault, and that's fine. I'd 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 2: make that argument, too pandemic. You know, the shutdowns are okay, 60 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: But I brought this up before twenty twenty two happened, 61 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: said this is going to be an issue, This is 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: gonna be an issue. Because inflation's really bad. Democrats made 63 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: it much worse. You look at the chart. Joe Biden 64 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 2: comes into office two trillion dollars, that's when it takes off. 65 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: But they can at least clay muddy the waters and 66 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: make the argument that the six trillion in COVID emergency 67 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: spending under Trump was a and that's not a crazy argument, 68 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: be honest about it, that that's spending. Trump spent too 69 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: much money in twenty twenty. That is a fact, that 70 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: is reality. Shouldn't have shut down the country. You can 71 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 2: say other people, I'm just I'm just laying and people 72 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 2: are getting it all mad. I'm just laying it out. 73 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: Have to convince the people who in twenty twenty voted 74 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 2: one way to vote another way. That's one option. The 75 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,359 Speaker 2: other option is just get to turn out, because you know, 76 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 2: the Trump movement's gonna be so big. We're gonna have 77 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: such big numbers in these places that you'll overcome some 78 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: of the inherent challenges. And when I say big numbers, 79 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: I know you're talking maybe another twenty or thirty thousand 80 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 2: votes in some of these states. But you got to 81 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: get them. So I would just wonder what the we 82 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: keep saying, what is the plan, The plan to win 83 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: these voters that is entirely reliant on Biden is awful. 84 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: I do not think is a good plan. Even though 85 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: I think Biden is awful, I don't think that's sufficient 86 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: for the Republicans to win in the next election. 87 00:04:56,800 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: The reason why I focus because the caller I agree 88 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 3: with everything he's saying, but he focused in particular on 89 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: independent voters. Those are people who are not affiliated with 90 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 3: one party or the other. It's important to keep this 91 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: in mind. We have never had a rematch for president 92 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: in any of our lives. It's never happened. Okay, direct 93 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 3: presidential rematch. What is going to make someone who voted 94 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 3: for Joe Biden in twenty twenty flip and go back 95 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 3: and vote for Donald Trump in the same rematch in 96 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. I just flat out do not believe 97 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 3: there are that many people, because if you flip, what 98 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: you are admitting is I was wrong in twenty twenty. 99 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,839 Speaker 3: First of all, how many people in life are willing 100 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 3: to admit that they were wrong about anything? I try, 101 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 3: Buck tries. We have a public record. I'm very open 102 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: to the fact that I don't get everything right. Regularly 103 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: on this show, will come on. I did it just 104 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 3: last week. I said, hey, initial reports were that Progozen 105 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: got shot down by a missile. They now think it 106 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 3: was a bomb on the plane. I told you guys, 107 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: it was a missile. 108 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: I was wrong. 109 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: It appears now that that was a bomb on the plane. 110 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 3: I came back and I corrected it. I try to 111 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 3: make sure when there is a fact that we get wrong, 112 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 3: that we corrected. How many people out there, in particular 113 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 3: suburban women, which is why Trump lost in twenty twenty, 114 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 3: are going to say, you know what, I got that wrong. 115 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 3: If we get a Trump Biden rematch, how many of 116 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 3: those women are going to say, you know what, I 117 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: got that wrong, even in their own head, maybe not 118 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 3: even publicly, and they're going to go change the way they. 119 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: Vote in twenty twenty four. I think that's the challenge. Well, 120 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: this is why I think if people listening, or people 121 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: in the Republican Party and in the Conserve movement had 122 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 2: a little bit of frustration at that line of analysis, 123 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: I think it's incumbent on all of us to say, okay, well, 124 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 2: so what do we do about it? Right? What do 125 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 2: you do? And that still is something that can be done. 126 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 2: You could have Trump put forward an economic plan, a 127 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 2: continuation of obviously what he did, that's a big part 128 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 2: of what Trump has been running on so far, but 129 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 2: an economic plan and talk more about bringing down inflation, 130 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 2: talk more about those. Now he's still in a primary, 131 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 2: it's not the general election season. I get all of this, 132 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: but I think it's important to have this discussion now 133 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: in advance of all that. Because the deep state is awful. 134 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 2: Let's crush the deep state. Will win a primary, it 135 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 2: will not win a general election based on the numbers 136 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: as they exist right now. As a strategy, I agree 137 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: with it. I think it's important. I think it matters. 138 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 2: But that's not going to deliver you to the agree 139 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: that anybody can read the tea leaves and take a 140 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 2: look at the numbers. That alone is not going to 141 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: deliver that as a primary message. I don't think we'll 142 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: deliver the key states where he has to run and 143 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 2: he has to win. And I think we need to 144 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: be very honest about what the strengths and weaknesses are 145 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: of the campaign. Is Donald Trump going to be Would 146 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: he be a much better president than Joe Biden? Of course? 147 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: I mean, do we even have to go over the basics. 148 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 4: He or no. 149 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 2: But the challenges I think are are substantial, and I 150 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 2: get a little concerned that people don't want to talk 151 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: about the challenges, the meaning like the four indictments. Now 152 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: you could say it's all crap, as we do, and 153 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 2: that it's unfair, and that this is a targeting of 154 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 2: Trump and an undermining of him, and it's election. And 155 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 2: I mean, we say these things. It's not like we 156 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 2: say this every day. This is true. It's how I feel, 157 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 2: it's how Clay feels. But what do we do to 158 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: get around this so that Trump could actually be the 159 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: nominee And I think that or the president rather not 160 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 2: just the nominee the president. I think that's important to 161 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: really think about and think about seriously, because I'm telling 162 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: you I am not picking up from the other side, 163 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: and I know some Democrats, and I have my ways 164 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,959 Speaker 2: of peeking behind the curtain. I do not the people 165 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 2: that are saying that Democrats are afraid of Trump, I 166 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: do not think that is true. I think Donald Trump 167 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,319 Speaker 2: could still beat Jo Biden. That I think is true. 168 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: I do not think the Democrats are afraid of him, 169 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: and I don't think that's the right mindset to be 170 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 2: in here. When I say afraid of him, I'm talking 171 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: about going into this election. Yeah. 172 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 3: I just think it comes back to that question because 173 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 3: there are many different unprecedented aspects of this election. The 174 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 3: reason why I say there's three ways Trump wins, lower turnout, 175 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: third party, and Biden has some in the event it's Biden. 176 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 3: Biden has some physical Mitch McConnell like freezing, where nobody 177 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 3: can even argue anymore that there's not some major mental 178 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 3: faculty issue. That's to me the pathway that Trump wins. 179 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 3: I think that the persuasion of people not to vote 180 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 3: is actually going to be a default acknowledgment that they 181 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 3: were wrong in voting for Biden, and I do think 182 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 3: there will be Bucks said earlier, I disagree. I think 183 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 3: there'll be a lower turnout in twenty four than there 184 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 3: was in twenty We'll see, we have we'll put a 185 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: stake bet on that one. But to me, getting people 186 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: to admit they were wrong, given that all of twenty 187 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 3: twenty represented if you were team Biden or you were 188 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: team Trump, it said something about you personally. It was 189 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: like a brand that you were deciding that you were 190 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 3: going to wear or a car that you were going 191 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 3: to drive, or a team that you were going to 192 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: wear the jersey of. Once you make a decision to 193 00:10:56,640 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 3: wear a jersey of a particular team, what has to 194 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,199 Speaker 3: happen for you to take that jersey off and then 195 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 3: put the other jersey on. That's what we're talking about 196 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: when we're talking about tribal analysis and so getting people 197 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: to admit and in particular, I'm just tossing it out 198 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 3: there because they decided twenty twenty. Anybody who's married, how 199 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: often does your wife come home and say, you know what, honey, 200 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 3: you were one hundred percent wrong. I got X wrong. 201 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,719 Speaker 3: And as a result, I'm completely changing my opinion on 202 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: this issue. How many married men out there have ever 203 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: had their wife come home and say, honey, you were right, 204 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 3: one hundred percent I got that wrong. I just want 205 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: to make it clear to you, and therefore I'm now 206 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 3: switching back from Biden to Trump. I just don't think 207 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 3: there's that many women who do that, and I don't 208 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 3: think there's that many people who are going to switch 209 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 3: because we're going to have a rematch. Whatever choice you 210 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 3: made on the first time, you're going to reiterate on 211 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 3: the second. I think, and that's why people not turn 212 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: it out I think is the best avenue for Trump. 213 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,679 Speaker 2: The pro Trump side of things, or I should say, 214 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 2: the people that I know who are the most confident, 215 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 2: I mean, because we're all pro Trump, but the people 216 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: who are the most confident in Trump's ability to win, 217 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: they tend to say. Their line of argument goes something 218 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: like this in summary, Okay, in short form, it was 219 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: really close in twenty twenty. The Democrats rig the game 220 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: in a whole bunch of ways. It won't be rigged 221 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 2: the same way this time, and we're just gonna squeeze 222 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 2: out more Republican votes in the key places that we need. 223 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: I think that's the argument that may be true. They 224 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: will have to get beyond. To do that, you're gonna 225 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: have to, you know, I think that analysis doesn't necessarily 226 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,440 Speaker 2: take into account that, you know, the four indictments to 227 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: all of us is absurd in an affront of democracy, 228 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 2: but to or, you know, an affront to this republic 229 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: an affront to our way of life or rule of law. 230 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 2: A lot of independence may just say, I just it's 231 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 2: you know, it's ikey. To them, it's ikey, it's I 232 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 2: don't know, for indictments. You must have done something wrong. 233 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to get around this somehow or get 234 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 2: through this somehow. 235 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 3: And I also just I don't buy the fact that 236 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 3: there's tons of Trump people who didn't show up and 237 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 3: vote in twenty I don't. 238 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 2: I don't. I don't buy that either. I think to 239 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 2: squeeze out more votes. Remember Trump, as he always says, 240 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: Trump got more Republican votes than any other person running 241 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 2: as a Republican in history. So this we're just gonna 242 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: squeeze harder and get even more Republican votes out in 243 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: the key places. That's gonna be tough. I'm not saying 244 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 2: it can't happen, but it's you know, you got to 245 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 2: really get it done. And you know that there's some 246 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 2: there's some headwinds here. There's there's the way the Democrats 247 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: are going to play the national The issue of abortion 248 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,959 Speaker 2: at the national level is going to be a challenge. 249 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: The way they're going to depict January sixth is going 250 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: to be a challenge. The election denial stuff they're gonna 251 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 2: roll out there is going to be a challenge for independence. 252 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 2: These are all gonna be areas that you know, we 253 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: have to be ready on it. And then there's also 254 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 2: the the outlier, or not even outlier, but the seemingly 255 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 2: unthinkable circumstances of what happens if Trump is found guilty 256 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: in one of these trials. Well, you know, I I 257 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: tell you something. We went through a little bit of 258 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 2: this because you and I sat here and said, guys, 259 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 2: I think an indictment's coming down, you know, next week. 260 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: I think we got all of the timing on the 261 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: indictments one hundred percent right. 262 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 2: And but but people got mad. Yeah, there were people 263 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 2: getting the why are you talking? It's like you wanted 264 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 2: to have it. I don't want it to happen. I'm 265 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: just saying it's about to happen. So we, you know, 266 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: we got to face the reality of what we're up 267 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: against here and and face that the you know that 268 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: the Trump can't remember the Trump campaign is going to 269 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 2: have to be operating without Trump for a while, you 270 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: know what I mean, He's gonna be dealing with other stuff. 271 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: During the ala, I made the Kobe argument. 272 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he could theoretically buck be on trial all day, 273 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 3: get in a jet and lie somewhere to do a 274 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: rally that evening. I mean, it's crazy But the reason 275 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: why I use the Kobe analogy is Kobe stood trial 276 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 3: for rape, got on a plane, flew to Los Angeles, 277 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 3: played basketball in the evenings. Now Kobe Bryant finally tuned 278 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 3: supreme athlete. The stress of being on trial is unlike 279 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 3: anything else. Anybody who has ever set in a courtroom, 280 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: the amount of energy it takes to sit there and 281 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 3: listen to every word and be paying attention. 282 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 2: We have to talk about this and there is no 283 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: precedent for it. 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We'll also return to our 349 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 2: discussion here in a moment of the Biden crime family. 350 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: Now they say crime doesn't pay unless your dad is 351 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: the vice president then president. Then I think I could 352 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: pay for a while. Will they get away with it? 353 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 2: We shall discuss Carrie in Florida. Helpful note here from 354 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: our call screener, not Buck's wife, but that would be 355 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: also would also have you ever wondered, like what you 356 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 2: do if like well, if Laara just called in, she 357 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: was like, good show today, Clay, a little too much 358 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 2: of this a little more of that would be good. Thanks, 359 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 2: It would be funny. My dad has called in before U. 360 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 3: Back when I did sports talker radio, my dad called, 361 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 3: didn't I didn't know, and I was like, that's I 362 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: think that's my dad, Like he called in with it. 363 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: It's probably been like you know, ten ten plus years 364 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 3: ago when I was doing local sports talker radio in Nashville. 365 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 3: Uh and uh yeah, so that's actually happened. My dad 366 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 3: called it, but he used a different name, and I 367 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: was like, it's my dad, Like, what's he doing? 368 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: Well, Carrie and Florida is a suburban mom and she's 369 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 2: calling a child as Carrie. What have you got? First 370 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 2: of all, great name, thank. 371 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 4: You, And I'm from Landa Lake, Florida. Great town. 372 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: Oh you're from Orlando too, Wow, you guys are No. 373 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 4: I'm from Landa Lakes you know, oh Lando Lake? 374 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: So I miss Heart of the Towers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, great, great, 375 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 2: go ahead. Carry well. 376 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,439 Speaker 4: First of all, I'm never wrong, but then again, I 377 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: voted for Trump, so that's good to me, you know. 378 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 4: But what I wanted to say was that some of 379 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 4: the suburban moms that did happen to vote for Biden 380 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 4: before they are telling me they're not voting for Biden again, 381 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 4: and that's because of the indoctrination of their kids. 382 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 2: Okay, and interesting, big. 383 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 4: Issue right now with a lot of the moms that 384 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 4: I'm talking to. 385 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 3: Okay, so you are saying something different than what my 386 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 3: read of it is, which is you are hearing people 387 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 3: who are saying I voted one way in twenty twenty, 388 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 3: meaning they voted for and they are willing to change 389 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: their vote in twenty twenty four. I would love love 390 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 3: to know how many people are actually in that camp. 391 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 3: But you're saying some of the moms in your area 392 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 3: of Florida are willing to. 393 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 2: Make that pivot exactly. 394 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 3: If that's true, Buck, then then then the calculus changes 395 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:21,680 Speaker 3: quite a lot. 396 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: I would say, Carrie, a great call, thank you so 397 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 2: much for calling in. I'd say, Clay, you know, we 398 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: shouldn't lose sight of the fact that the young can 399 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:38,360 Speaker 2: win in Virginia. He just he just strapped on the 400 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: fleece vest and talk to moms about schools and opening 401 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:47,560 Speaker 2: them and getting the schools to be less, you know, 402 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: less woke, less crazy, open them up. Very effective in 403 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 2: that again, winning over those you're trying to win. We're 404 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: we're showing Clay and I are showing up on our 405 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: knees moving through broken glass to vote for the Republican 406 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 2: on election Day, likely Trump. But for the suburban mom 407 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 2: who's like, Eh, I don't know, I don't like the 408 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 2: mean tweets or whatever, education is a good way to 409 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 2: get them on the train. I agree. 410 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 3: Now, the difference with the young kid is there's no 411 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 3: incumbent because Virginia doesn't allow you to run for incumbency. 412 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: Terry Mcca, I'm just saying he seized on the education issue. 413 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: It's not a different situation. He ran. 414 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 3: The challenge that I see is nobody who's listening to 415 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 3: us right now has ever lived through a presidential election rematch, 416 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 3: and it's easy if there is a new candidate. I 417 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 3: do believe that people will change their vote. 418 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 2: I e. 419 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 3: People voted for Trump in twenty sixteen and then shifted 420 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: and voted for Biden in twenty twenty. Those people existed 421 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 3: in particular the Midwest and before that, buck millions of 422 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: people out there voted for Barack Obama in twenty twelve 423 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 3: shift their vote to Donald Trump in twenty sixteen when 424 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 3: there is a new matchup. I do think people are 425 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 3: more likely to reconsider the choices that they made. My suspicion, though, 426 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: is that in a rematch situation, most people who voted 427 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 3: Trump are going to vote Trump. Most people who voted 428 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 3: Biden are going to vote Biden. The number of people 429 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 3: that are actually up for grabs is going to be 430 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 3: even smaller than it usually is for an election because 431 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 3: people have gone through and I understand everybody out there 432 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 3: who listens to us is following politics on a minute, 433 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 3: even granular basis. Most people aren't that way go to 434 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 3: you know. I had a really fun conversation in Milwaukee 435 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 3: Buck with a somebody who was in town, big Trump 436 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: guy who was in town for the debate, and he 437 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,119 Speaker 3: said he was talking about his brother worked at a 438 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: Birmingham factory Birmingham, Alabama area factory and other made videos 439 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 3: and he showed him to me of his brother going 440 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: around and asking all the workers there who's the vice 441 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 3: president of the United States. 442 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 2: Almost none of them knew. 443 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 3: So don't underestimate the number of people out there who 444 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 3: are just super busy in life. They're focused on their kids, 445 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: they don't have a really strong political vent, and they're 446 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 3: going to make the decision to go vote. 447 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: In a couple of weeks before the election, when everybody's 448 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: paying attention, do they change their mind. I'm not convinced 449 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 2: there are a lot of them. Tommy in Michigan wants 450 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 2: to weigh in on turnout. Tommy, what have you got 451 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: for us? 452 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 5: How's it going, guys? Man, you guys got kind of 453 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 5: check my point when I was sitting on hold. But 454 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,400 Speaker 5: I'm one hundred percent in agreement that I just don't 455 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 5: think the turnout's going to be that great. Biden doesn't 456 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 5: inspire anybody. 457 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 3: I agree with. Tommy, Buck disagrees with you. Tommy, make 458 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 3: your case, Tommy, and then we'll see if Buck's persuade it. 459 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 5: I tell you something, Actually, I wasn't gonna vote for 460 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 5: any of these guys. They forced my hand to vote 461 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 5: for Trump this time coming around, because I didn't want 462 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 5: to vote for an oxygen area. But I feel like 463 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 5: the man is being done a great you know, injustice. 464 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 5: So I have to go vote now. So, but I 465 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 5: don't see anyone inspired to vote for Biden. I don't 466 00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 5: see anybody, like you said, no Biden t shirts, no 467 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 5: Biden ath I don't see nines in people's yards. I 468 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 5: don't see any of. 469 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 2: It, Tommy, the good the good news. I'm sorry, I 470 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 2: mean in rough you go ahead, Tommy. 471 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 5: I don't hear anybody talking about Biden and his message. Right, Okay, 472 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 5: everything is Trump. So anybody that's voting is either voting 473 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 5: four or against Trump. And I just don't think they 474 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 5: can inspire that many people vote against Trump. Again, he's 475 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 5: not me. He's not a danger to them, he's not 476 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 5: in office. 477 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: So all right, all right, all right, all right, all right, Tommy, 478 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 2: thank you for calling anybody. I'm gonnaddress what you say 479 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 2: right now. First of all, a couple of points here. 480 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: One ark to our caller, Tommy. He listens to this show. 481 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: He listens closely, so obviously he's a man of high 482 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: intelligence and refinement and excellent taste in radio. We know that. 483 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: We know that about Tommy. He's he's astute because he 484 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 2: listens to this show, so he's got good taste. We 485 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: also know that he's agreeing with Clay, who's managed to 486 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 2: have quite a successful career, and so he's he's, you know, 487 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 2: in good company. There. My third point is I think 488 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 2: it's almost definitely wrong what he's saying. Here's why, here's 489 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 2: why it's not about enthusiasm for Biden. They're not even 490 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 2: going there like, look, will this work or not? You know, 491 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 2: this is all it remains to be seen. It wasn't 492 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 2: about enthusiasm for Biden. In twenty twenty, Joe Biden becomes 493 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 2: the vessel through which the Democrat Party gets to do 494 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,440 Speaker 2: what it does. Rely on the media, rely on celebrity power, 495 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,120 Speaker 2: rely on social media, all these different levers that they have. 496 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: It's going to be Donald And I hate having to 497 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 2: say this out loud, but again we should revisit. Let's 498 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 2: see where we are next summer. The campaign isn't going 499 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 2: to be Joe Biden is so great. It's going to 500 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: be Joe Biden's been okay, and Donald Trump will literally 501 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 2: end this country. Literally in this country. The country is 502 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: over tears, gnashing of teeth, thrending of garments, dogs and 503 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: cats living together, mass hysteria. That will be the campaign. 504 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 2: Now you can say, oh, that's crazy, and then you'd 505 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 2: be right. But look at all the people that are 506 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: walking around ready to mask up again, folks, Like there's 507 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 2: a lot of you know, maybe because I lived for 508 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,959 Speaker 2: over thirty years in New York City, there's a lot 509 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,199 Speaker 2: of crazy out there everybody. There are a lot of 510 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 2: people who believe all the stuff that we dismiss as 511 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: as mass hysteria, as a collective delusion, about January sixth, 512 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: about election twenty twenty, about you know, Russia collusion. Democrats 513 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: buy into all of They're not tired of it. They 514 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 2: buy into all that in clay with the four indictments, 515 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: as insane as that is. They're gonna say that you've 516 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 2: got a criminal running for president now. So I just, 517 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be the craziest election in history. 518 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: People aren't gonna be fired up about voting it. I 519 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 2: just don't see it. 520 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: I agree with everything you said except the conclusion. How 521 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 3: often is the sequel better than the original? Maybe Empire 522 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 3: strikes back Godfather two, Dominator two, I mean Weminator two, 523 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 3: relatively few. Most of the times the sequel is a 524 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 3: pale approximation of the original. I think it's going to 525 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: be way harder if it is Biden v. 526 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 2: Trump two. 527 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be way harder for them 528 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 3: to sell the idea of the two part and basic 529 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 3: argument they made buck Trump is Satan, Trump is Hitler, 530 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: Trump is the devil. And that was part one right, 531 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: because they basically ran on the anti Trump two was 532 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 3: Biden will restore. 533 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: Decency and normalcy to the country. 534 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 5: One. 535 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 2: It's hard to sell. 536 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 3: I think it's harder to sell Trump as the great 537 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: Satan in number two in campaign two. But the other 538 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 3: part of this is Biden's been a disaster. And this 539 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 3: is why I said earlier in the show, if you 540 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 3: watch the Republican debate, I think the veik I think DeSantis, 541 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: I think Tim Scott, I think Nikki Haley would all 542 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 3: crush Biden. For this reason. When Trump's running, the Biden 543 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: people aren't even gonna I agree with you on this, 544 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 3: they aren't even going to defend their record. They're just 545 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 3: gonna run again on we aren't Trump threats, let's threats 546 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 3: to threat to democracy. It's that's gonna be the It's 547 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 3: the end of the world as we know it, and 548 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: we're not still fine. That's the campaign they're gonna run. 549 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: And most of the time, when you're an incumbent, the 550 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 3: referendum on the election is you did you or did 551 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 3: you not do a good job? And with Trump, you're 552 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 3: basically getting a referendum on. 553 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 2: Trump again, and that's what they're going to try I 554 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: just think. 555 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 3: Some people who bought into Biden will restore normalcy. Trump 556 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: is evil, are not going to show up. Oh, we 557 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: had one hundred and fifty six million people who voted 558 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty four twenty twenty. I think we'll have 559 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 3: under one hundred and fifty million in twenty twenty. 560 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: To be clear, you think I was talking aggregate number. 561 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: You're talking aggregate number as well, not percentage. Because I 562 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: that I'm less confident on. I think you're going to have. 563 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 3: Fewer people will vote in twenty twenty four than voted 564 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. 565 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 2: I again, we'll put it up, We'll put it up 566 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 2: on the prediction board. And I think a part of 567 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: this that's being left out of it all Clay is 568 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 2: incumbents usually win. I know, we don't have to think 569 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: about that. Yes, because of what happens, you know, the 570 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 2: whole thing that happened to the country in twenty twenty. 571 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 2: Incumbents usually win. You know, you look at the times 572 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 2: when I'm trying to let me, let me pull it 573 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 2: up here, eight seventy six, right, yeah, well, I mean 574 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: eight times. I mean Jimmy Carter utter disaster. Fine, but 575 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 2: I think everyone thought he was a disaster and the 576 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 2: economy was in terrible, terrible shape, not. 577 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 3: Like sorry, nineteen eighty, nineteen ninety two, and twenty twenty. 578 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: I think I'm correct, or the only times incumbents of 579 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: loss in the last forty years, that's. 580 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,960 Speaker 2: Right, I mean hw Bush, thank you Ross Perot. Although 581 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 2: I know people say, actually, you know, the analysis shows 582 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 2: a pero, but that was the third party role. There 583 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 2: was substantial and you can never redo it to really know. Yeah, 584 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's it's unusual. The power of incumbency 585 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: is a very This is why I thought that they 586 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: won't have Biden stepped down, because I think that they'll 587 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: just the idea is, it doesn't matter how decrepity is. 588 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: It's just about giving four more years to the ticket, 589 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 2: to the machine and than Kamala. I am. I'm totally 590 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 2: confident Kamala is gonna take over, which which is really 591 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 2: if he I'm sorry I should say if he wins, right. 592 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: I mean, but I don't think anyone believes Biden's going 593 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: to finish out all four years. That's nose. 594 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 3: I think he might die. I mean, it's sad, but 595 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 3: I really think you have to flip a coin on 596 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 3: whether he could survive all the way to twenty twenty nine, 597 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 3: when a new president would be being sworn in. 598 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 2: If he won in twenty four. Yeah, but you know, 599 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 2: I'm an optimist. We're gonna win America. Don't worry about it. 600 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: It's all gonna be fine. Just trust me on that one. 601 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 2: We're all gonna make it through. You know, there's been 602 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: plenty of family reunions this summer, plenty of opportunities to 603 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 2: make new memories and record a lot of them on 604 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: your phone. But back you know, fifteen twenty years ago, 605 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 2: videos at family reunions were made with a videocam or 606 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: videotape cassettes or maybe even like Beta Max or these 607 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 2: other things, these other technologies. Somebody in your family has 608 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: all those videotapes carefully stored away, waiting to digitize them. 609 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: That's the only way those videotapes that have captured those 610 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 2: memories are going to be out there. Right well, Legacy 611 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 2: Box can actually do this for you. Legacy Box, a 612 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 2: company based in Tennessee, has been transferring old media into 613 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 2: new media for more than a decade now. 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Use 630 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: your CNB twenty four to seven subscription to get access 631 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: to the guys. 632 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: Fine the Clay and Fuck app in your app store 633 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 2: and make it part of your day. 634 00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: Welcome back in play Travis bucksexon show. Encourage all of 635 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 3: you to go subscribe to the podcast. A couple of 636 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 3: I Believe moms went a weigh in let's start with 637 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 3: suburban moms. We're excited. Let's talk Wendy in Ohio. I 638 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 3: might have to call you a unicorn. What would you 639 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,080 Speaker 3: like to discuss with us? 640 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 6: I am a lifelong Republican voter. I am a small 641 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 6: business owner, and I am that suburban mom that flipped 642 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,800 Speaker 6: and voted for Biden over Trump in the last election. 643 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 6: I will readily admit I am wrong. My small business 644 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 6: has taken a sharp downturn in the last three years, 645 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 6: and I will I'm going back to Republican. I should 646 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 6: have stuck with my bitt and kept us. 647 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 3: So did you listen to Rush in twenty twenty and 648 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 3: you voted for Biden or you have found us since then. 649 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 3: I'm just curious if you're a lifelong Republican, who you 650 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 3: were listening to or how you found yourself to vote 651 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 3: for Biden in twenty twenty. 652 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:54,280 Speaker 6: So I did listen to Rush back in twenty twenty. 653 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 6: It was honestly a lot of the shutdowns because my 654 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,360 Speaker 6: business did get shut down during COVID with the Republican governor, 655 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 6: and I was very disillusioned with the Republican Party and 656 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 6: then bought into the Trump as evil. Trump is going 657 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 6: to take this country, you know, into the depths of hell, 658 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 6: and I bought into all of that hysteria, and. 659 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 3: Now you're coming back to the good side here. Yes, you, 660 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 3: she listens to our show. So really the antidote to 661 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 3: political insanity is right here. So have you heard other 662 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 3: women or men making the same having the same political 663 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 3: path in Ohio or anywhere else as you? 664 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 2: Have you heard anybody else confess to this. 665 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 6: A lot of the moms that I do talk to, 666 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 6: they have started to come around to the right way 667 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 6: of thinking for different reasons. A lot of it is 668 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 6: because of the indoctrination of children. They're very worried about 669 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,879 Speaker 6: what's going on in schools right now, and that's the 670 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 6: biggest reason. 671 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 4: Also. 672 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 6: I mean, if you have, like with me, a single mom, 673 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 6: you have the entire household on your shoulders, and it's 674 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 6: gotten a lot harder to care that burd you know. 675 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling in, Wendy play the the Democrat left, 676 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 2: the Commies. They are going after kids in ways that 677 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 2: I think does that has had an effect on how 678 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 2: people view this. Jenny and Wisconsin will get you in quick, 679 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: suburban mom, we only got about thirty seconds. What have 680 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 2: you got for us. 681 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 7: Jenny, Uh, yes, So, hi guys, I am a Republican 682 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 7: life while Republican. My friends all know this, and I'm 683 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 7: trying to convince them to vote Republican just and I'm 684 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,280 Speaker 7: even reading Clay's book, American Playbook. And whenever I speak 685 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 7: with them about the issues, I come off sounding like 686 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 7: a crazy person because they all listen to the mainstream media, 687 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 7: so like a conspiracy theorist. How do I start the conversation? 688 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 2: And you get them to listen to our show and 689 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: you give them a copy of Clay's book. That's the 690 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 2: best way to start. We'll get it, Okay. Can we 691 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:54,360 Speaker 2: do more of this tomorrow? 692 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 3: We'll yeah, Jenny, call back in tomorrow. Should we need 693 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 3: a tutorial, I think let's do it. 694 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 1: Four