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Speaker 1: back to back Happy episodes. Nothing negative this week, aside

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Speaker 1: show with my colleague George Rays. Sir. Well, um, I

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Speaker 1: you don't know what you're talking about. I'm like, uh

425
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: that I've been watching Jamorrow Joinner. Jamara Joyner could be

426
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: one of the best wide receivers in the Pac twelve.

427
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: But it's still a learning curve and it doesn't it's

428
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: not helping that he has to miss spring practice. You know,

429
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: Um Dixon there other converted quarterback to wide receiver. He's

430
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: not he's not uh progressing as quickly as they need

431
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: him to. I mean, they're okay, they're okay, but it's

432
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: not it's not anything where I I would say that

433
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: those guys are going to go out and make the

434
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: plays necessary to um, you know, relieve Grantnell of having

435
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: to you know, made a couple of mistakes here or there.

436
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: He They're gonna go out there and dink and dunk

437
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: all the way down the field, UM and try to

438
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: supplement it with a strong running game, and and and

439
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: make up for the fact that you know, they don't

440
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: have a whole lot of highly touted offensive lineman there.

441
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 1: But the scheme should keep things open and keep them

442
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: moving the ball down the field. I think he can

443
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: have a successful year Statistically. I don't know if Arizona

444
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: can stop anyone on defense, and they're still in a

445
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: situation where they're building what that defense is going to be.

446
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: You know, we'll see if you see l A made

447
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: the right choice of letting Paul Rhodes go to the

448
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: University of Arizona instead of just making him their defensive coordinator. Uh.

449
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, if I could change topics real quick,

450
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: did you see that Chip Kelly um had a little

451
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: Jerry as an r O quote this week that said that,

452
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, we we haven't made a change because he's

453
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: a hell of a football coach. Did you see that? Okay?

454
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, Okay, this is one of those situations

455
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 1: to where Chip Kelly is either going to be a

456
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,399
Speaker 1: genius or he's gonna look like an idiot because maybe

457
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: he knows something that we don't know. Because maybe but

458
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: we definitely don't know it. Correct because you see its

459
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: defense has been trashed so and granted, some of it

460
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: like when you're looking at defenses, some of it is personnel,

461
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: some of it is coaching, but you should be disciplined

462
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 1: even if you have don't have the talent. So I

463
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: don't know if I buy that. So this is this

464
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: is U c L. A Beat writer Ben Bolsch said,

465
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: he quoted Chip Kelly is saying that he retained Jerry

466
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: Aznaro's defensive coordinator because of continuity and quote he's a

467
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: hell of a football coach. Uh. So I went back,

468
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: he hold up to see the devil's in the details.

469
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: He said he's a hell of a football coach. He

470
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: did not say he's a hell of a UH defensive coordinator, right,

471
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: but that's so, that's the job he has. So I

472
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: went back and I looked at his last five seasons

473
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: calling defenses, because for the most part he's been a

474
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: position coach, but he coached Duke's defense from two thousand

475
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: four through two thousand six, and then he's had two

476
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: seasons at the helm of U c l A's defense.

477
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: So in two thousand four, Dukes defense was seventy nine

478
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 1: in scoring defense. In two five they dropped to a hundred.

479
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: In two thousand six hundred fourteen. When he got on

480
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: at U c l A. He led them to the

481
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: hundred and fourth rank scoring defense in UH college football.

482
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 1: And also remember that in between those two eras of

483
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and six and two thousand eighteen, that giant gap,

484
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: they went from having a hundred and twenty FBS teams

485
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: to a hundred and thirty. So he's hundred four out

486
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: of a hundred thirty in two thousand eighteen and then

487
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: last year hundred and sixteen out of a hundred and

488
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: thirty and so his best season and just as far

489
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: as scoring defense, was in two thousand four, and it

490
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: was a below average season. Beyond that, he has had

491
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: one of the worst scoring defenses in all of college

492
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: football in his last four seasons, and the overall one

493
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: loss record of those five teams ten and forty. Okay,

494
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: so what's the problem. Well, he's a hell of a

495
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: football So it's the problem. I don't I don't understand that,

496
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: or he will coach you into football. Hell right, jeez, Louise, dude,

497
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: that's just oh man, that's just tough right there. That

498
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: is very very tough. Oh my lord. I don't even

499
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: know what to even say about that, because you make

500
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: it sound just so much worse when you say it

501
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: like that. Um, next team up, Colorado. So we got Colorado,

502
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: who is losing eighteen year starter Stephen Montees because he

503
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: seemed like he was there forever and but who replaces him? Uh?

504
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: The the kid Tyler Little He played some last year.

505
00:30:55,040 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: But I mean they got like strengths Enon Jered Sorry

506
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't know who. Oh no, I'm sorry, Bruce Harts

507
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: are running back. That is my bad. So yeah, exactly,

508
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: I was like, hold up, hold up, hold up. So

509
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: I mean who ends up winning this job. I was

510
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 1: getting ready to say Milt Milt Tuckers team, but no,

511
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: it's called the Rel's team. They brought in a kid

512
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: who's a dual threat from Texas named uh Brendan Lewis,

513
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: which actually might be aside from the fact that he's

514
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: a freshman, a dual threat guy actually also allows you

515
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: to you know, do some khalil tad as a freshman action.

516
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's a sophomore action where you can take

517
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: stress the defense with being able to run and create

518
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: some easy passing lanes. So a mobile quarterback maybe a

519
00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: good stop gap until you get your guy. Yeah. Um,

520
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: I personally, I'm I'm I'm rooting for Tyler Little a

521
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: little bit, uh, just because you know, he's somebody that

522
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: I I was pretty sure it was gonna end up

523
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: at Arizona State back when I covered them for Devil's Digest,

524
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: so I would track his time out at survey. Um.

525
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: I think he's got a brother that also plays in

526
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve if I'm not mistaken. Um, but he,

527
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a big boy. This is this

528
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: would fit along nicely with what Colorado has played at

529
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, um the last couple of years. And

530
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: I've actually, you know, I've seen Stentrum play in person.

531
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: I went out to uh to Highland's ranch to cover

532
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 1: a game between them and uh in Swaro a couple

533
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: of years back. He's a big kid too, Um, you know,

534
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: but I don't know. They do have to Colorado. I

535
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: always root kind of for the for the hometown kid,

536
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: but this is this is the opposite of that. You know.

537
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: I want the so call guy to go in and

538
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: supplant the two Colorado natives. Um, but blick cents from

539
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 1: could be good. I just don't. None of these three

540
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: guys ever showed me anything where I felt like they're special, right,

541
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: and so I think that's gonna be, Um, that's gonna

542
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: be a really big thing. But then I didn't see

543
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: cepo loof out coming. I really didn't. My first time

544
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: seeing him in the season, I traveled out to cover

545
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: a game UH where I actually I knew his backup,

546
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: who was from Scottsdale, Arizona. I went out to write

547
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: a story on his backup and louf Ou ended up

548
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 1: getting hurt in his backup played a bunch and so

549
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 1: I actually had some material for a story out there,

550
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: but when I watched Louf out play, I was like, oh, wow,

551
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: they really have something here, you know. And then and

552
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: then you know, they have a very lightly recruited player

553
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: out of El Paso who takes over for him for

554
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: multiple seasons and and I feel like, did a really

555
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: really good job. And maybe that's the recipe out there.

556
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: Get a a guy who can sling it a little

557
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: bit and uh, and see if you can't protect him

558
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: and surround him with athletes. Um. But you know, I,

559
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: even even with Tyler Little, I don't see somebody necessarily

560
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: who's got big time playmaking ability. I just see somebody

561
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: who who is big enough to be durable. And that

562
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: you can, you know you can. If you can get

563
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: the ball in the hands of the athletes and just

564
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: keep him up right, then you'll get some consistency. But

565
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: that this is really the biggest question mark, is you

566
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: know who who's going to play quarterback at Colorado because

567
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 1: everywhere else I kind of feel like even at Utah,

568
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: where you know, I say that I would do something

569
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: different than what is conventional wisdom. You know, they at

570
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: least have somebody who's been a three year starter that

571
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: they can plug in. Um, you know, Colorado doesn't really

572
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: have any experience. We're gonna find out a whole lot

573
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: about that team through spring practice, and I'm excited to

574
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: to learn more. I don't know if any of these

575
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: guys is gonna be enough to put them over the hump,

576
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: especially with the amount of transition that they're going through

577
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: right now. Oh for sure. Yeah. Um, the actually, yeah,

578
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: the the last real quarterback battle that there that there

579
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: is is up in Pullman. The last two years, they've

580
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: relied on senior quarterbacks Um Menshoe, Anthony Gordon, guys who

581
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: had just been well Mensho transferred in, but Gordon sat

582
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: even when Menshew came in. Um. But now, I mean,

583
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to make about all these quarterbacks.

584
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: But the highest rated one is is Camon Cooper, who

585
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: was a freshman last year. But you don't, like, you're

586
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: on the recruiting churle Ralph, so you see all of

587
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: these kids. But some of these Washington State kids you

588
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: don't always see because they don't get necessarily invited to

589
00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: or aren't at the big amps or aren't his you know,

590
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: they don't get as much pomp and circumstance around him

591
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: as some of the other kids that you cover. Yeah, Um,

592
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: I covered a lot of Cam and Cooper just because

593
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: he was a quarterback that was you know that everybody knew. Uh.

594
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: And his commitment to Washington State was kind of interesting

595
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: to me because he had a lot of other options

596
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: and that was I think that was really at the

597
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: peak of where like, oh man, Mike Leach is really

598
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: getting some some good kids, and he's getting them before

599
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: anybody else. Um, And that that was a surprise to me. Uh,

600
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: Gunner Cruise is someone that I thought was going to

601
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: end up at Arizona State, but Billy Napier left, and

602
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: Billy Napier loved him, and you know, the rest of

603
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: the Arizona State staff that was left over after he

604
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: left didn't necessarily see it. And that's a kid who

605
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: he's six five to thirty and it's the he's he's

606
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: like Cam Newton's size, right. No, he's not that type

607
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: of athlete. He's somebody who um threw a bunch in

608
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: high school and who I got to watch up close

609
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: quite a bit. The other three quarterbacks are kind of

610
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: mysteries to me. I think that Cam and Cooper and

611
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: Gunner Cruz are sort of from the same mold. Um

612
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: big guys who can and throw it fifty sixty times

613
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 1: a game if you need them to. But you know,

614
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: they've got a couple of guys on this team who

615
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: have been there for a while, who were just kind

616
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: of waiting for for an opportunity. I would be genuinely

617
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: surprised if Aaron Angelos from Philadelphia came in and supplanted everybody,

618
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: um as a you know, six ft one, seventy pound,

619
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: you know, guy from from all the way across the country.

620
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: But you never know, you know, did we see Gordon

621
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: coming last year? I didn't. I was. I was genuinely

622
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: surprised by that whole thing. Uh so you know, uh

623
00:37:55,440 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: and then system always play well though, Yeah, and I

624
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: don't know Rolovich. I mean it didn't matter who was

625
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: playing quarterback for Rollovich last year, right like yeah, um yeah,

626
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: he had two different guys come in and just slinging

627
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: around and he would snatch him out as soon as

628
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,359
Speaker 1: they threw it through a pick. He he was nic

629
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: shy and I'm partial the Gunner Cruise, but it'd be

630
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: cool to see, you know, John Bledsoe who has spent

631
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: three seasons not doing anything just come out of nowhere.

632
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,919
Speaker 1: You know, he's somebody who who won a state championship

633
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: for Ben High School out in Oregon. Um. He he

634
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, he's a three year starter out there, and

635
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 1: then he's just been sort of languishing at the end

636
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: of the bench for a team that often carries seven

637
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: quarterbacks out there and in Pullman. So it'd be it'd

638
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: be pretty cool to see John Bledsoe go out there

639
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: and and uh and do something uh, and then you know,

640
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: you'd have all the things of you know, like Drew

641
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: Bledsoe's son is is you know, continuing the his his

642
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: dad's legacy because his you know, Drew bledso played quarterback

643
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: at Washington State from UM and so, you know, there's

644
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,239
Speaker 1: part of me that thinks that it would be really

645
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 1: cool just for Pack twelve storylines to see Drew Bledsoe's

646
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: kid have some success out there. Um. But again, he's

647
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: been chilling on the bench for three years, so who

648
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,240
Speaker 1: knows um what he's going to bring to the table.

649
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: But if they just want to continue the pre Gordon

650
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: tradition of just having like the biggest, strongest dude out there,

651
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 1: who can wing it forty to fifty times like Connor Halliday.

652
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: You know, um, I think Cooper or Cruz would probably

653
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: be the guy. But you know Rollovich's quarterbacks. They also

654
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: Rollovich wasn't afraid to bench a guy who is you

655
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: know you might Yeah, there ain't no problem he was.

656
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 1: He was like, oh you oh, you throw three touchdowns

657
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: and two picks. Come have a seat. Yep, this ain't

658
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: the move for you. We got two programs left, so

659
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: what but one of one of them is obviously going

660
00:39:56,520 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: to be super super quick is USC. So there are

661
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: people in there are people, I promise you I lived

662
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: down here in that life who believe in USC fans,

663
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: former former players. Some this is where they get caught

664
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: up at USC on on the rankings, on the way

665
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: a coach looks, that's why they got Clay Helton and said,

666
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: oh geron or how they sound. There are people who

667
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: believe J. T. Daniels will be able to get his

668
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: spot back from Keaton Slovis. I say, no chance in

669
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: hell that happens. What what's your take, Ralph who who's

670
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: your offensive coordinator? Yeah? The same guy from last year

671
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 1: that that that this man lit it lit it up

672
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: with any clearly trusts. The same guy who said that

673
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: Keith and Slovis could be an all time great while J. D.

674
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: Daniels was still the starter, and then Keaton Slovis went

675
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 1: out there and proved it. Um. You know, the same

676
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: Keetan Slovis who had thirty touchdowns and nine interceptions with

677
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 1: a seventy two completion percentage as a true freshman. Meanwhile

678
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: J T. Daniels through for under sixty completion percentage, fourteen touchdowns,

679
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: ten interceptions as a freshman. Come on, man, like, it's

680
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: so I know the status. So I was just out

681
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: at Rivals camp in l A. And I'm listening to

682
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: you know, Adam Gorney, who's in charge of recruiting for

683
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: the entire West Coast, you know, and he's he's kind

684
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: of weighing on this, and he it was his job

685
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: to evaluate these quarterbacks coming out of high school. He

686
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: never saw Keetan Slovis ever, He never saw him, not

687
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: one time. So nothing against Adam or whatever, but he's

688
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: out in California. I'm in Arizona, right. I saw plenty

689
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: of JT. Daniels, and I saw plenty of Keatan Slovis,

690
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: and I tried to tell people when Keatan Slovis is

691
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: going to USC, if you guys bring in an air

692
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: a raid, this is going to be a contest because

693
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: he is the most accurate quarterback at the high school

694
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: level that I have ever watched. And he and not

695
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: the best quarterback by any means, but his accuracy. Like

696
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner was his offensive coordinator in high school, and

697
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: it is amazing how much of what Kurt Warner brought

698
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 1: to the table as a player in the NFL was

699
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: able to be imparted to this. Keatan Slovin's kid. He

700
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: is just incredibly accurate, right, and then you get him

701
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,359
Speaker 1: out there in that air raid. It's hard to confuse. Yes, yeah,

702
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 1: And so I don't know. Could J. T. Daniels be

703
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: successful in this system? There's absolutely no doubt in my mind.

704
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: J T. Daniels is an incredibly talented quarterback. Um is

705
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 1: this the right system for him? I don't think it matters.

706
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: I think that he'll be good anywhere. But Keetan Slovis

707
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: again through for thirty touchdowns and nine interceptions as a

708
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 1: freshman that nobody knew about in a brand new system

709
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: at the biggest and most prestigious college in the PAC

710
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: twelveth South, coming out of a high school where I

711
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: think he won a total of like three games in

712
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: two years. Um, so what you're saying is that J T.

713
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: Daniels is going to be in the transfer portal, Come come, come,

714
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: sometime before the season starts. But I don't think he should.

715
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 1: I think that I think if ken't I think if

716
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: Keaton's always has shown us anything, it's that that there's

717
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: a possibility that he's gonna miss time. And so if

718
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: you're JT. Daniels and you get beat, then I think

719
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: you should stick around and try to get your degree.

720
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: And then if you have the opportunity to start six

721
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 1: or seven games in a row, because you know Austin

722
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: Jackson has now gone in that offensive one. Wait wait, wait,

723
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: wait wait, So you think that if J T. Daniels

724
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: is going to miss time, because I think if Keith

725
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: and Slovis ends up missing time, it would be better

726
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: for J T. Daniels to be there, get some reps

727
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 1: and then yeah, well see, I don't think JT. Daniel

728
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: should leave. I think those guys are friendly their roommates.

729
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 1: I think that they should basically go into this season

730
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: as like I got you. If you go down, you

731
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 1: got me if I go down. Nope, No, well actually

732
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 1: actually here Okay, So j T. Daniels is a is

733
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: a true sophomore this year at what what? No? No, No,

734
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: he was a sophomore and then so he red shirted.

735
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 1: So next year he'll be a red shirt sophomore. Right.

736
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: If I were him, I would do my best to

737
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 1: graduate after this season. Yeah, and so I would stick

738
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: around this year, graduate and you know, pick up all classes,

739
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 1: summer classes, zero week classes, seminars, everything I could to

740
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: get our credits to graduate and then leave transfer somewhere.

741
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: And I have two years to play. So but you

742
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: you think that Keaton Slovan's is gonna miss time. I

743
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: think that there's a strong possibility after he got his

744
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: bell rung and his elbow banged up last season that

745
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: you have to say to yourself, if you're j T. Daniels,

746
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: that's the same offensive line that got me killed. There's

747
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: absolutely Jackson minus Austin Jackson. They're they're not usc is

748
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: not getting through next year with one quarterback. They're not. Okay,

749
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: I that my two guarantees from this podcast. Tyler Shuck

750
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: is going to light the pack twelve on fire and

751
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:47,360
Speaker 1: USC will have multiple starters at quarterback next year. Okay, okay,

752
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: now over on to Westwood, who will be the starting

753
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: quarterback for Do you see are we gonna talk about this?

754
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: Are gonna talk about the the DTR snapchat? Oh yeah yeah,

755
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: so DTR snapchat f U c l A. And everybody

756
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,399
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Chip Kelly, are you gonna punish him?

757
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: He was like, no, no, no, he had he had

758
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: a bad, bad day. But he's gotta remember he's a

759
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 1: starting quarterback Power five team. He's a string quarterback for

760
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 1: U c l A. Like they need to recruit, even

761
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: though they do a weird job of it. And he's

762
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: out there saying f U c l A while his

763
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: dad has already could have been school, though it could

764
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: have been school. Of course it was school, Like do

765
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: I know, I know how much you love University of Oregon.

766
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: Tell me they didn't piss you off sometimes? Oh? Yes, yes,

767
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: for sure, yes, yeah, I just I just didn't have

768
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 1: a snapchat to voice it and probably would not because

769
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: my because my in those certain terms, I'm more I'm

770
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 1: more sub tweet kind of guy. Yeah, so here's a

771
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 1: fun story. So remember Jamary Sorrandal. He went to Arizona

772
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: State at Amazon Community College. He had in the first

773
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: round pick up the Packers who traded him to the Browns.

774
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: He's been like, he's like a four year NFL starter

775
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: at this point. He after he graduated, he went back

776
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: to Arizona State and he tried to get into the

777
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 1: the student union Jim, and they asked him to pay

778
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 1: ten dollars for like a one day pass, and he refused.

779
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: He did the kind of like do you know who

780
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: I am? Type deal and uh, and they told him

781
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: that he couldn't And so then he turned around and

782
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: tweeted that like a s U is the worst school

783
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 1: in the country. And he did it like right after

784
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: like he's been a you know, a first round pick

785
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: and he's back trying to get into the gym at

786
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,320
Speaker 1: a s U and uh. And that's what this DTR

787
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: thing reminded me of of, like does we just have

788
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 1: way too much access to these athletes and in a

789
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: moment of frustration, like this is how they let off steam.

790
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: And you can I I imagine that there were a

791
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: lot of old school U c l A fans that

792
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: were like, what did that that? I think that there

793
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,399
Speaker 1: will be some u c l A fans that will

794
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: be happy to see him go because of stuff like this.

795
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: At the same time, I think that like he's you know,

796
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: he's he's he's a good kid, and he's done his

797
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: job there. He does need to step up. I don't

798
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: think that there's going to be a challenge that wouldn't

799
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: that be a surprised if if if Chip Kelly was like, oh,

800
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: f U c l A f you, We're gonna start

801
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: a freshman or something like that. But there is there

802
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: is now a pattern if you and I don't believe

803
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: in making people's family members um, keeping people responsible for

804
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: what their family members put online. UM. Because I'm a

805
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,959
Speaker 1: lifelong Arizona Cardinals fan and Marcus Fitzgerald, Larry Fitzgerald's brother,

806
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 1: that dude spent probably the first eight years of Twitter's

807
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: existence roasting the Cardinals every Sunday for not throwing Larry

808
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald the ball and I and every time he's like

809
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: the fastest receivers like like a thousand catches or something

810
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, but then you gotta remember all of

811
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald's quarterbacks have been like Max Hall, John Skeleton,

812
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: like just a bunch of just a bunch of nobody's.

813
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: I think I was looking at it the other day

814
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 1: that he did have Kurt Warner and hed have cars,

815
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: did have Kurt Warner. He did have Kurt Warner. But

816
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: I was looking at it the other day and like

817
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice through fifteen years in his career, had twelve

818
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl quarterbacks and Larry Fitzgerald has had two, right,

819
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,359
Speaker 1: So like, that's the big difference is that a lot

820
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: of the times it just wasn't the guy there to

821
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: get Larry Fitzgerald the ball. Marcus Fitzgerald would tweet every

822
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 1: Sunday like just trash the Cardinals, And in my head

823
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: for the first couple of years, I was like, oh,

824
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: like this is indicative of how Larry feels. And then

825
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: I quickly learned like, no, this is just his brother

826
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,759
Speaker 1: who wants to see his brother get the ball. So

827
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: I didn't ever, I didn't ever hold dtr responsible for

828
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 1: what his dad was popping off and saying online. Um,

829
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: And I deal with a lot of dads who were

830
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: kind of overbearing and everything like that, and the kid

831
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 1: just wants to play football and they wish their parents

832
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: would shut up. But at the same time, you know,

833
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: when when you then put on top of it, you know,

834
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 1: dtr trash and U c l A on social media.

835
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: I just think that there's some U c l A

836
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: fans who will be fine to see him graduate. That's all. Yeah,

837
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: I agree with that, um, But you don't think there's

838
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: gonna be a competition, do you? Like, I don't know,

839
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yankov might might have something something to

840
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: say about that. Maybe didn't, and Austin didn't. Austin Burton

841
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: just bail. Yeah, yeah, he was. He was like he

842
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 1: had some moments where you were like, Okay, he's got it,

843
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: and then some moments be like oh no, no, no, no,

844
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: no no. And it's all about whether day d Well,

845
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: whether um Dorian Thompson Robinson can can stop those heads

846
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,759
Speaker 1: scratching moments. But I want to talk about the high

847
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: school ranking super super quick. UM. I noticed that, like

848
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 1: now is the time where you see a lot of

849
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: movement between the juniors, like because everybody was focused on

850
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 1: the seniors guys, So now everybody's really getting a good

851
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: look at those guys and you're seeing a ton of movement.

852
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: And the Elite eleven came out and the kid that

853
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: everybody you know in this class, Oh, he should be

854
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: the number one player in the class. All of this

855
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: was Jake Garcia. And but when the Elite eleven, when

856
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: they had the regional in Southern California, you had two

857
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get invited to the Elite eleven, and neither one

858
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: of them was Jake Garcia. It was Miller Moss, who

859
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: is at Alamanni, who may be going to Modern Day

860
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: or you have. I would hate that. I love that.

861
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: I love the alim Any team. I think you should

862
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: stay there. Yeah, I don't know if that's gonna happen though. Uh.

863
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,359
Speaker 1: And then the kid from the Bishop School Notre Dame

864
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: commit Tyler Buckner. So people are jumping up ahead of him, like,

865
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,879
Speaker 1: is this a case where USC, like Jake Garcia looks

866
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: like a USC quarterback, Like he checks all the measurables,

867
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: checks all the J. T. Daniels boxes, the Matt Barkley boxes,

868
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 1: all the boxes the Keaton slobs, all the sexiness that

869
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: Keaton Slobs didn't pick. But now he's getting passed up

870
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: by some of these other guys. Are we missing something

871
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: because I know you saw these dudes play, I don't know,

872
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: you know, Elite eleven. Everything is kind of weird right now.

873
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,919
Speaker 1: Nike backed off of Elite Levin, so leadle Levin used

874
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: to have that relationship with Nike, and it's Alta Levin's

875
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: run by student Sports, but they had a relationship with Nike,

876
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: and now Nike has backed out, and so student Sports,

877
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: which I believe, uh might even be up on the

878
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: auction block if I'm not mistaken, I could be making

879
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: that up. But um, you know, I think that there's

880
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: there's the fact that, like Nike's not part of it,

881
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: so they're not just sort of forcing the hand to

882
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: like go out and get the big names, the highly

883
00:52:56,280 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: ranked guys. Um you know what Adidas moved away from

884
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm with Rivals, and Adidas moved away from

885
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:05,680
Speaker 1: working with US, and under armers now running their own camps.

886
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: There's all this sort of fragmentation going on. Why though,

887
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I don't think it's smart.

888
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: I think the apparel company should stick with the recruiting services,

889
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: run these things together and everybody just sort of be

890
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: on the same page. But I think the barrier of

891
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 1: entry is so low into getting into this camp circuit

892
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: that you don't find out what a headache it is

893
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 1: until you actually try to do it on your own.

894
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: You know, I would not be surprised if this was

895
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: the first year the under Armur ran their own nationwide camps,

896
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: and I would not be surprised if it ended up

897
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: being the last, because I think an under armer's head,

898
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: they're like, hey, we'll run our own camps and then

899
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: media will just come. They'll just come to our camps

900
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: and we don't have to, you know, worry about partnering

901
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: with any specific one. And the truth is then, but

902
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: if Rivals is still running their camps the way we do,

903
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: we're not gonna be out at the under Armur things.

904
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna be at ours, right and so, and then

905
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 1: you just have kids having to go to too many things,

906
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:01,520
Speaker 1: and if they have one bad showing, and I don't know,

907
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I was out at the regional

908
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: in l a week and a half ago, saw Jake

909
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: Garcia throw. He looks as good as ever. He's got

910
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: a little bit of Carson Palmer in him as far

911
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: as his deep ball um. You know, he's in a

912
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,359
Speaker 1: weird situation high school wise, where he he left Long

913
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 1: Beach PAULI for Narbonne, and then Narbonne got like permanently

914
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: banned from the postseason or some garbage. So I think

915
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: now he's had to transfer a second time to Lajabro,

916
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: which makes me laugh because you know, Nick Saban is

917
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: out here saying that he wouldn't recruit any kids who

918
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: transferred high schools, you know too three times. Well, sometimes

919
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: that's what you have to do in order to be

920
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: able to play or compete, because some things are out

921
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: of your control, you know, Nick saban is, He's saying

922
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: something that sounds good in theory, but in practice doesn't

923
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: make a whole lot of sense. Miller Moss is somebody

924
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: that I've gotten a chance to watch up close and

925
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: in person, and I think he could be a really

926
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: really good quarterback um and I think he makes really

927
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: good decisions and can run an offense well. But I

928
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: think Jake Garcia really has that its factor And for us,

929
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: he won our quarterback m v P of our regional

930
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 1: camp out there, so to me, he looks as good

931
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: as ever. And I've been watching Jake Garcia in person

932
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: since he was a freshman out there throwing alongside dj

933
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: Uiaguau and Jay Daniels and so you know, to me,

934
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,960
Speaker 1: he looks as good as ever, and I think that

935
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: ultimately he'll end up with an invite out there. Would

936
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 1: it wouldn't make sense to me for him to not

937
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: have one. Okay, now we can move on to uh

938
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: to what it to? What the time of the year is.

939
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 1: It is Packed twelve basketball time, The tournament is coming up.

940
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:45,399
Speaker 1: The women's tournament has already been decided. And Ralph, I mean,

941
00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: did you know. I don't know if you knew or not,

942
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: but did you know that Oregon is only the second

943
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:59,799
Speaker 1: team in in the history of college sports to win

944
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:05,600
Speaker 1: the outright title in football, men's basketball, and women's basketball

945
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 1: in the in the same year. And if the men

946
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,799
Speaker 1: win the conference and only other team that's ever done

947
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: it was Ohio State a long long time ago. And

948
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,759
Speaker 1: if they win the Pac twelve tournament as well, if

949
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: the men win, because the football team won the Pack

950
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: twelve championship game as well, they also want the women's

951
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 1: wont it? If the men win it, I think they'll

952
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,800
Speaker 1: be the first team to ever do that. Aren't too excited?

953
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,839
Speaker 1: Would you take never winning in Tempe again? If they's

954
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: guaranteed those results? Excuse me, I'm saying like, would you

955
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: take would you take those never winning in Tempe? Ever again,

956
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: if it men they always win the conference, could you

957
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: make that trade? Oh, god, dude, Yes, yes, of course

958
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,400
Speaker 1: of course, because it would probably mean football wise, it

959
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: probably mean keep you out of national championship every single year.

960
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, but if if that were you're you're you're

961
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,919
Speaker 1: only lost, and you could then you could skirt by

962
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: every now and then with it. And and if you

963
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,240
Speaker 1: went to Pack twelve every single year, then you're gonna

964
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,479
Speaker 1: skirt by. Oh and then in off years you don't

965
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: have to worry about playing in Tempee, so every other

966
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: year you get a pass, and then every now and

967
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: then they're off the schedule completely. So yes, I'll take

968
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: that easily, no doubt, because that that'll that'll get you

969
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: into college football playoff, just not when they're playing in Tempe,

970
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 1: which is you know, four four out of every ten years.

971
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: Basically no problem. I'll take that, all right. Well, now,

972
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: I'm I I was surprised by that. I mean, at

973
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: the same time, you could have you could have made

974
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: that prediction of Oregon women's basketball and Oregan especially um

975
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: actually nobody really like when we were at Packed twel

976
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: media Day, and I picked Oregon. People like, ha ha,

977
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: you're us a homer. I was like, okay, whatever, And

978
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,640
Speaker 1: I think I picked Oregon to finish second, say, and

979
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 1: so you know, it's everybody thinks you tak because they

980
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: were like, oh, they have the easiest schedule, blah blah blah,

981
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: And turned turned out they were one of the best.

982
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: They were the second best team to back to all. Yeah. Um,

983
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: it's a cool accomplishment. Uh yeah, that's that's all I

984
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 1: think it would be. Do people even really care though

985
00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: about the Pac twelve title regularly regular season title? Um? Okay.

986
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: So when I brought this up to my wife, that's

987
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 1: what she said. She was like, isn't the She was like,

988
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: the tournament hadn't even happened yet, Like you're celebrating a

989
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 1: regular season victory. Like and I was like, no, there

990
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: are two separate things. She was she said, no, they're not.

991
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 1: Maybe there are two separate things. And but and I

992
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: think that she falls in the majority of people who

993
00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: look at the tournament winner as the actual winner. Well,

994
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 1: let's talk, because you do get an automatic burth. I

995
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: feel like Oregon ended up on the rough side of

996
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: the bracket yes, yes they did. I don't think they

997
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: got rewarded for winning. No, no, no, So they played

998
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: the winner of Oregon Oregon, I'm sorry, Oregon State in Utah,

999
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 1: which is not terrible. Um, but then they played a

1000
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: winner of after that, Arizona and USC where I don't

1001
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: forget Washington. Washington finished the season just weeping in Arizona

1002
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: and now they get to play Arizona again. How How dude,

1003
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 1: If if Sean Miller loses to Washington and back to

1004
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,280
Speaker 1: back games, I'm telling you his job is on the line.

1005
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling you Washington is Washington. University of Washington is

1006
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: the best worst team in the conference I have ever seen.

1007
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: Oh my lord, how do you have all these first

1008
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: round draft of picks? You have like three first round

1009
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: draft picks on your potential first round draft picks on

1010
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: your team, and your dad last in the conference. I

1011
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: feel like there are four teams that could win the

1012
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: tournament on Oregon side of the bracket, and on U, C,

1013
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: L A and A s U side of the bracket.

1014
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 1: I feel like there are two because Colorado is messing

1015
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 1: around tripping over themselves. If Colorado beats Washington State, I

1016
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: think they could probably be a s U because they've

1017
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 1: done it a couple of times, tumbling down the rank,

1018
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:35,480
Speaker 1: just tumbling. Yeah, they definitely struggled there at the end.

1019
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 1: I think it's just Remy Martin kind of started missing

1020
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: some shots and they realized real quick, like, oh fremy'

1021
01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: is not on. Then we need everybody else to play well,

1022
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 1: and that's tough to have everyone play well to replace

1023
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: one guy. Um. But so if Colorado beats Washington State,

1024
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: I think they have a pretty good shot at beating

1025
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 1: a s U. You know, U c l A. The

1026
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: worst thing that could happen for U c l A

1027
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: right now is to have a few days off after

1028
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,640
Speaker 1: USC knocked him out with with that last second three

1029
01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: same thing they did, just turn about his fair play.

1030
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: They just did it to Arizona State. Yeah, but I

1031
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 1: do think, I do think that U c l A

1032
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: has the best chance to come out of it on

1033
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: on their side. Uh. And then I genuinely think just

1034
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: looks easy. Washington could get a couple of wins. Arizona

1035
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: is definitely more than capable of of. I don't believe

1036
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: in Arizona, dude, They're just to sometimes they'll they'll they'll

1037
01:01:34,760 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: blow out Washington and then beat USC and then lose

1038
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:41,920
Speaker 1: to Oregon by like thirty, Like how how does this

1039
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 1: stuff stuff happen? But here is my Debbie Downer moment.

1040
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the PAC twelve bracket pack twelve tournament bracket,

1041
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:55,560
Speaker 1: big thing automatic birth might have potential seven teams getting

1042
01:01:55,560 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: a tournament. Seven teams you have, that's a total one, two, three,

1043
01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 1: four or five, six, seven eight eleven games eleven total

1044
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: games in the tournament. One to three of them are

1045
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: on national television. No, I do not count the PAC

1046
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 1: twelve as national television. If you're if you are only

1047
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: an eight team, eighteen million homes, that's not national. And

1048
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:28,160
Speaker 1: so I am looking, yeah, you're not national. And those

1049
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: three games are on FS one and those just and

1050
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: they picked the times to where the games are. Here.

1051
01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: Here the games. You've got Arizona State versus either Colorado

1052
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: or Washington State, and then the winner of that game

1053
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: versus the winner of u c L A Stanford Cal.

1054
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,160
Speaker 1: So you could have u c l A Arizona State,

1055
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 1: or you could have Stanford Arizona State and then the

1056
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: next game air. So, so if Arizona State wins, they

1057
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: would have all of their games on FS one, and

1058
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have the number one team Oregon on except

1059
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 1: in the championship game, you wouldn't have Arizona on, which

1060
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,080
Speaker 1: are your two markeee team? Well, and you wouldn't And

1061
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: you say l A could potentially get two games row.

1062
01:03:16,160 --> 01:03:19,360
Speaker 1: How does this make sense? I'm not I'm not sure

1063
01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: because I look at this and I say, like, oh,

1064
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 1: the one seed really doesn't get like the one seed

1065
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: has to win twice in order to play on national TV.

1066
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: And then if you look at the bottom half of

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01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: that bracket, you have a lottery pick at Washington who

1068
01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: will have to make it to win three games just

1069
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: to get on national television. You have three of the

1070
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 1: top forty five picks in the upcoming NBA draft. If

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01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 1: they decide to leave University of Arizona UM. They could stay,

1072
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:51,920
Speaker 1: some of them could stay, some of them could go.

1073
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: But in you know, Zeke Nazi and Nicomannon and Josh

1074
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: Green would all be in. I think they could all

1075
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: be first round picks. But the at least go in

1076
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: the top forty five. They have to win three times

1077
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:07,800
Speaker 1: to get on national television and then USC which is inconsistent,

1078
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: but like chocked full of very very talented players. They

1079
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,800
Speaker 1: have to win twice take it on national TV. That

1080
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: is wild to be too. He and he's one of

1081
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: the I think that he's going to be a guy

1082
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: because he's probably gonna come out this year in the

1083
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:29,560
Speaker 1: draft who's going to be very highly picked. And yeah,

1084
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 1: people people are gonna be like, where where did he

1085
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 1: come from? I'm like, yo, because he's a dog. That's why. Yeah,

1086
01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 1: I think that this is something that that you gotta

1087
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: at some point, you gotta be objective, even if you're

1088
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: pactwelve employee, pactwel fan, whatever, you got to look at

1089
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: this and just say like, this is this is pretty pathetic,

1090
01:04:50,520 --> 01:04:52,479
Speaker 1: you know, because you're gonna have a bunch of people

1091
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: that aren't traveling out to the games because of the coronavirus.

1092
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,840
Speaker 1: And this is how you know that is like literally,

1093
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 1: when I'm I'm on Pack twelve dot com right now

1094
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,680
Speaker 1: looking at the two thousand, twenty Pack twelve Men's Basketball

1095
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 1: Tournament bracket just above, just above where it says twelve

1096
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 1: Men's Basketball Tournament bracket, it says coronavirus statement and frequently

1097
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,840
Speaker 1: ask questions. So we know it's going to be a

1098
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: big deal. So people are gonna be sitting at home

1099
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:27,600
Speaker 1: not able to watch the games unless they have access

1100
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 1: to Pack twelve network. That that's gonna be that it's

1101
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting. It's especially because they'll buy sling the

1102
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: way they can watch it right, maybe for a month,

1103
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,560
Speaker 1: but then as soon as a Pack twelve, maybe for

1104
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: a month, maybe they will buy Sling for or get

1105
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 1: the seven day free trial and then bail because after that,

1106
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 1: unless you're baseball or rowing or whatever else is going on,

1107
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: you don't have any more need for it, exactly, And

1108
01:05:55,640 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: like it's it's so bad that this that the way

1109
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,479
Speaker 1: it's set up, put such a damper on such a

1110
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: big time, such a big important time, because the A

1111
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: c C is gonna get you know, eight bids. You have,

1112
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:18,360
Speaker 1: you have the Big ten who's gonna get eight bids

1113
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: as well, and your kids feels your kid feels exactly

1114
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: how I feel. I know, I know, dude. So you're

1115
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: gonna have all those teams get all those bids, and

1116
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: then they're gonna have most of their games on ESPN,

1117
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: most of their games on ESPN two you like, they

1118
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: can be seen, but the PAC twelve games noe, and

1119
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: I call it the invisibility big because everybody else has visibility.

1120
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: The PAC twelve is invisibility right now, and it is

1121
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,880
Speaker 1: just damaging to the conference. Like, how can you find

1122
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:57,439
Speaker 1: somebody fun to root for? Okay, buddy, jeez, how can

1123
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: you find somebody fun to root for when when you

1124
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,760
Speaker 1: can't see them? I mean, how can national fans find

1125
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:11,440
Speaker 1: the next Gimmer for Debt? Find the next Adam Morrison,

1126
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: find the next you know, intriguing superstar to root for.

1127
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:20,040
Speaker 1: So give me your final four and your championship matchup,

1128
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,240
Speaker 1: and then the third thing would be, give me somebody

1129
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: that is ranked seventh seed or below that you think

1130
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: has the best chance of winning winning it all, and

1131
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:35,040
Speaker 1: I'll start. I think it's gonna be Colorado and U

1132
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: c l A on one side, and Arizona and Oregon

1133
01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 1: on the other. And I think that Oregon beats U

1134
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: c l A in the Pack twelve championship. And if

1135
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 1: anybody is going to make any noise from the seventh

1136
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 1: seed or below, I gotta think it's Washington since they're

1137
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,520
Speaker 1: hot right now. Rob, I will go with your with

1138
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: your team that's gonna make some no ways in Washington

1139
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: that could at seventh seed or below because Stanford and

1140
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: CAW Colorado. Colorado is at six, so nope, Um Washington

1141
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: State nope, Utah Nope, Oregon State Nope. So Washington when

1142
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,200
Speaker 1: the month of March starts for Utah turns into a villain.

1143
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:25,799
Speaker 1: So maybe yep, it's like November for the football team

1144
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 1: you have. You have. So I think my final four

1145
01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 1: I got Oregon. I'm tempted to. I don't know if

1146
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:40,040
Speaker 1: Washington can can win two games, though, I think they

1147
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: can beat Arizona again because they just did it. I

1148
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: just saw it. Hey, if you're gonna pick, you're gonna

1149
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:47,080
Speaker 1: pick Oregon to go to the championship anyway, Just go

1150
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: with it. Okay, I'm gonna go, but I like this

1151
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,879
Speaker 1: USC team with are in consistent. I'm gonna go Oregon

1152
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: Washington because there's always big upsets. Oregon Washington, U c

1153
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:08,479
Speaker 1: l A, ACT hair Is, Arizona Cola, Arizona State, Cola,

1154
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:11,800
Speaker 1: Arizona State. No, I'm gonna go with Colorado and then

1155
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: taking it all. I got Oregon beating Arizona State. Okay, okay,

1156
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: so you're Arizona State. But no, no, no no, no, no, no, no,

1157
01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:24,560
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm gonna go Ah Oregon U C l

1158
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: A that okay, all right, you can always go back

1159
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: and edit this. If a SU ends up going on

1160
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 1: a run, I like a s U against most of

1161
01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: these teams except for Colorado. Colorado is the one so

1162
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:40,200
Speaker 1: Washington State ends up getting you know, um, you know,

1163
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,360
Speaker 1: was it c J l ab the if he goes

1164
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: off and they knock off Colorado, I think a s

1165
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 1: you can make a run. I think they could even

1166
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 1: go to the championship. It's just Colorado is the one

1167
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 1: matchup that I just hate for a s U because

1168
01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:56,120
Speaker 1: they just have a bunch of real smooth shooters, you

1169
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: know who can't afford a lost this tournament. Because the

1170
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: actwelve was trying to get the most teams in is USC,

1171
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: they may find themselves out of the tournament. Yeah, yeah,

1172
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: And I mean it'd be interesting to see what happens

1173
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,480
Speaker 1: with you know, a SU just barely hit twenty wins Arizona.

1174
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: What's frustrating to me is Arizona could lose back to

1175
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: back games to Washington, the worst team in the entire conference,

1176
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: and they're still going to the tournament. They've had a

1177
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: terrible season and they're just a lock because of the

1178
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: way that things have worked out. But Sean Miller always said,

1179
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: you have A doesn't go to the n I T.

1180
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: So let's say that University of Arizona somehow ends up

1181
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: on the outside looking in back to back seasons with

1182
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: no postseason play with a team full of lottery picks.

1183
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: That's that's trouble. But I think they're in regardless, They're

1184
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: gonna get in. Yeah, I've said this, dude, but there's

1185
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: no way that that Arizona doesn't get in because of him.

1186
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: Damn net rankings them them net rankings love him. They

1187
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,400
Speaker 1: love Arizona, And I don't understand the net rankings. That

1188
01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:05,240
Speaker 1: make no is to me, but the net rankings love them. Um,

1189
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: I gotta go with oh man, I mean, and then

1190
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 1: Colorado sliding down too. You got USC barely hanging on

1191
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: and U c l A has to win one game.

1192
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 1: If they win one game, I think they get in

1193
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,360
Speaker 1: the tournament. But you have teams like Utah State who

1194
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 1: beat San Diego State, who's who was possibly gonna be

1195
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,559
Speaker 1: a one seed in their conference tournament, and that that

1196
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: is the in Utah State wasn't going to the tournament,

1197
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: so they stole a bid, and that could be one

1198
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: of those pack twelve bids. That is the difference between

1199
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: having seven teams in six or possibly five teams and

1200
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,600
Speaker 1: if teams that are gonna go to the tournament regardless

1201
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:47,800
Speaker 1: get bumped off in there by someone who's not going

1202
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: to the tournament at all. What is your must watch

1203
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 1: first round game of the four of them? I don't

1204
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: have a choice. I gotta watch Areas. Uh well, I

1205
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 1: gotta watching now. I can't can't watch any of them.

1206
01:12:00,000 --> 01:12:02,559
Speaker 1: They're all on pap back. Well no, I'm joking, um,

1207
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 1: but out of the first round, oh easy, Washington Arizona

1208
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: because I saw Washington Arizona last week. So that is

1209
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 1: my must watch game, Like I want to see if

1210
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,720
Speaker 1: Washington can knock them off, especially since I got them

1211
01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:19,599
Speaker 1: playing in the semifinals against Oregon. For me, it's Utah

1212
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,920
Speaker 1: Oregon State, because that is those are the two teams

1213
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: that I've actually watched the least amount of. I think

1214
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 1: I've only seen one full game from either team this season,

1215
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: and so you know, someone has to win that game,

1216
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 1: and so it'll be nice to just be a little

1217
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,599
Speaker 1: bit educated on it to see who plays at noon

1218
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: on Thursday against Oregon. Well, I think that or that

1219
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 1: Oregon State would play better against Oregon simply because they

1220
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: played them closer and it's a rivalry game where Utah

1221
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 1: it doesn't have that same appeal than all of that. Well,

1222
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: we'll see, I mean, it'll it'll be It'll be really

1223
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 1: interesting to see. If you know, I think that people

1224
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: are kind of rooting for this this tournament to go

1225
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: according to plan because it could cost somebody else a

1226
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: did you know if if a team like USC you know,

1227
01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: who is on the bubble gets two wins, you know

1228
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: that that would be devastating for somebody else who who

1229
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: is on the verge of of of of getting into

1230
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 1: the tournament as well. So, um, but I'm all for

1231
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: the more pack twelve teams the Marrier. I'm hoping for

1232
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: at least four and if we can squeeze five in there,

1233
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 1: that would be fantastic. Yep. The last thing we got

1234
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,800
Speaker 1: up though, is, um, the PAC twelve Awards came out,

1235
01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 1: and were you happy with the way the PAC twelve

1236
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:43,879
Speaker 1: Awards win? So you will let me let for anybody

1237
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: who doesn't know, I guess we'll tell them is you

1238
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: have Peyton Pritcher Player of the Year. So so time

1239
01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: out well, actually I'll tell you to tell you a second.

1240
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: Uh Zeke Nagy from Arizona Freshman of the Year to

1241
01:13:57,479 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: Colorado's Tyler Bay Defense a Player of the Year, Chris

1242
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 1: Smith from u c l A Most Improved Player of

1243
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: the Year, Arizona States Alonzo verged six Man of the

1244
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: Year and obviously the one horse race, Mick cronan Coach

1245
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: of the Year. And side note, I know I get

1246
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: I get called an Oregon homer sometimes, but like I

1247
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:23,760
Speaker 1: tell my wife because she was like, you just you

1248
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:26,799
Speaker 1: just when I told her this year, I said, Sabrina,

1249
01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: I didn't ask you was gonna be Player of the year.

1250
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,479
Speaker 1: And about halfway through the seasons, I said Peyton Pritchard

1251
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 1: was gonna win Player of the Year and that the

1252
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: Oregan man and women were gonna win the the the title,

1253
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: and that I think that Oregan's women have a legitiot

1254
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:43,840
Speaker 1: a national championship. Oh, George, you just say this, You

1255
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:46,200
Speaker 1: just and and people say this, and I'm like, listen,

1256
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 1: I can't help that. We're in a wave right now.

1257
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: Like when when we did the Facts well All Decade team,

1258
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: there were so many Oregon guys and she was like, oh,

1259
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: you're such a homer and I was like, well, if

1260
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 1: we had done it for the decade before, it would

1261
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: have been mainly USC dudes. I can't help it that

1262
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: the team that I root for in the school that

1263
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: I went to is just on a wave right now. Rolph. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I I don't. I think that they knocked it out

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Speaker 1: of the park. I really do. I mean, maybe there's

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Speaker 1: some question about you know, Tyler Bay, but he's fifth

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Speaker 1: and steels and sixth and blocked shots. He he has

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Speaker 1: a legitimate impact on every game that he's in. You know,

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01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 1: maybe some USC players deserve some consideration. Um, But you know,

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Speaker 1: I I think that you know, Chris Smith not only

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Speaker 1: is one of the most improved players in the Pact weel,

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Speaker 1: but improved as the season went on. If anybody wants

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Speaker 1: to to talk with me about Alonso Verge not deserving

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Speaker 1: to be six Man of the Year, I will physically

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Speaker 1: fight them. It's a dude who dropped twenty off the

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Speaker 1: bench like seven different times. Um, and uh, and I

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01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: think he was you know, if your average over fourteen

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Speaker 1: points a game, and I mean he he was great.

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Speaker 1: And then and then Mick Cronin, which is you know,

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01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:04,440
Speaker 1: again we have to read it was seventeen off the bench. Yeah, yeah,

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01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,600
Speaker 1: he he was better off the bench than he was

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Speaker 1: as a starter. And he's not really even somebody who

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Speaker 1: has a great shot yet. Um. The Remy Martin being

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01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,400
Speaker 1: left off the second team last year was a was

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01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: a really big snub and this year they made it right.

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01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: He was a first team or Zeke Nagy. To me,

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Speaker 1: he was the best freshman. I thought that he deserved

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Speaker 1: it over Um, over Nico omannion Um. He was. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: if if anybody has an argument to maybe be on

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Speaker 1: first team, that wasn't I think it would be Utah

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01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 1: forward Timmy Allen. But who do you take off? Right?

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Speaker 1: So maybe Oscar to Silva from Stanford. But I mean

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Speaker 1: I feel like Stanford, you know, maybe had a in

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01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 1: arguably had a better season. And so um, the first

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01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,519
Speaker 1: team all packed twelve this year was kind of funny

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Speaker 1: to me because it was just like, okay, let's just

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Speaker 1: pick one guy from every team. Yeah, every single team

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01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 1: is represented. It's weird. It's weird because the first team

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Speaker 1: is got ten players and the second team is five.

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01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: Just have three teams, Just have three teams, like it's stupid, right,

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Speaker 1: But then I guess maybe they didn't want as many

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01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: people to complain or whatever. But calan Utah the only

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01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 1: two teams that didn't have a player on on first team.

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01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: I mean there there's usually at least one duplicate one

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01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 1: duplicate school. I will say, if you were going to

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01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: make a true first team, like a real real first team,

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Speaker 1: out of the ten players that are on this, I

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01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 1: think you have Remy and Peyton Pritcher because because up

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01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,200
Speaker 1: until the last week of the season, that was that

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01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,600
Speaker 1: was who the contest for Player of the Year was

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Speaker 1: going to be between, and then a Congo from USC.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got to be on there. Yeah. I

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01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:58,479
Speaker 1: I would make an argument personally for Trace tinkle Um

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01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:01,240
Speaker 1: and then that there are there's like no centers in

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Speaker 1: the entire conference. So maybe Zeke Nagy sneaks in there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, because tinkle is the like he's been on

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01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: the All Pac twelve team like three times already, so

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Speaker 1: so yeah, so it'd be tough. He's just yeah, he's

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01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:18,040
Speaker 1: all paper pact. Well every year, Um, what did you

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01:18:18,120 --> 01:18:21,759
Speaker 1: think about? So we we we both agreed on Player

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01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: of the Year. Because Oregon ended up winning the conference.

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01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 1: Arizona State slid the last couple of weeks, and you know,

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01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,760
Speaker 1: and part of that was because of Remy Martin not

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01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,800
Speaker 1: being able to hit shots as much. And pritchert led

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Speaker 1: the conference and scoring it twenty points assists at five

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Speaker 1: point six. And I agree with you on Zeke Nagy

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Speaker 1: Freshman of the Year. I thought he was more consistent

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Speaker 1: than the Nicke omannion, averaging sixteen points fifty seven percent

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Speaker 1: shooting um. And I agree with Tray Tray Bay as well.

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01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 1: It's tough to get anybody else because it's not like

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01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:02,599
Speaker 1: you had a dominant shot blocker running running around either

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Speaker 1: and most improved. I didn't have a problem with Chris

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01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: Smith from U c l A either. I didn't. I

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Speaker 1: didn't have a problem there. My only issue with it

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01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: because again I think the PAC twelve genuinely nailed it.

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01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: I think ten players on the first team is weird um.

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01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: But my only issue is that Josh Green I don't

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01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:27,200
Speaker 1: think was awarded anywhere like I think that Josh Green

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01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: should have at least been an honorable mention for All

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01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 1: Defensive Team or should have been included as as a

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01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: potential honoree for Pack twelve freshman because if you've ever

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01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: watched University of Arizona play, it's very obvious that like

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01:19:42,840 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 1: the guy that's going to have the most success as

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01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 1: an NBA player, this is gonna be a guy who

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01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: plays in a Popovich system for like fifteen years and

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01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,479
Speaker 1: as Josh Green and you figure, you know, as somebody

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01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: who played thirty minutes a game twenty nine starts, average

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01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,719
Speaker 1: twelve points, five rebounds, three assists, and one point five

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01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: steals per game, that maybe that would have been good enough.

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01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 1: But because he's more of like a garbage offensive option,

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01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 1: UM garbage time or or whatever, instead of you know,

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01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: Zeke Nadier, Nickomanion or Dylan Smith who take most of

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01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: the shots. You know, if if you had to depend

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01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,000
Speaker 1: on him for your offense, I think this is a

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01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: guy who could average twenty, but he's more than happy

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01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: to just go out there and be a team player.

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01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: I don't see his name anywhere on here, and that

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01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 1: to me is an issue. But I guess that's Sean

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01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: Miller's fault for not winning more. UM. Yeah, but isn't

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Speaker 1: that how it works? Though a lot of times, like

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Speaker 1: in college sports, you'll say, oh, man, this guy was

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01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: first team All whatever, this guy was Packed twelve Player

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Speaker 1: of the Year, SEC player of the Year didn't get

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01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: drafted till the till the end, or didn't and then

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01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,560
Speaker 1: you'll have a guy like, you know, Zach Levine or

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Speaker 1: somebody who is second team or not on all back

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01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: to list. But then they Devin Devin Booker didn't start

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Speaker 1: at Kentucky. Yeah, that's all my favorite thing. He was

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01:21:07,040 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 1: the sixth man and uh yeah he's doing okay, so

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Speaker 1: I just yeah, but he's the one. It would have

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Speaker 1: been nice to see his name on here somewhere. And

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Speaker 1: then the other glaring crazy thing to me is like

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Speaker 1: this conference does not have any centers none, right, zero

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01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:29,280
Speaker 1: zuilt not They are playing a single center honored anyway.

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01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:33,719
Speaker 1: There the teams are slightly bigger than the Houston Rockets

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01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: are playing right now, but not there like the uh

1377
01:21:38,920 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: the Warriors death lineup, just just minus the death do

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01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: we I wonder I'm gonna check on this real quick.

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Speaker 1: If the Pact twelve has any centers coming in well

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01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:58,799
Speaker 1: oh wait, hold hold up, A would technically he's center

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01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 1: ish and and and so is uh Isaiah Stewart at Washington.

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01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 1: Uh he's the big kid, right yeah, yeah, kind of yeah,

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01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: they're sensor like foward to me, I don't know. Yeah,

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01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,559
Speaker 1: but they're not. They're they're more cut like where like

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01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: DeAndre Ayton was a center by size but not but

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01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 1: he had power forward skills. Well, I tell Evan Mobley

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01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: coming into USC, he's seven ft two hundre pounds, he'll

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Speaker 1: play kind of a true seven ft two pounds that is,

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Speaker 1: he's good. He's he's the number three player in the

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01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 1: country according to rivals. He so I think he'll come

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01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:43,200
Speaker 1: in and make make an impact. But I mean, there's

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Speaker 1: just not a lot of other true uh big men.

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Speaker 1: Fawnmaker's relative maccoure Maker. He's going through the draft though, Yeah,

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01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 1: he might, he might skip everything. He's seven ft two

1395
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: thirty and he hasn't picked to college yet. Um, but yeah,

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01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: there's just not a lot then that he's eligible though, yea,

1397
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,519
Speaker 1: because they're all they're all actually like thirty years old. Yeah,

1398
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: exactly where where Manuke Ball was playing in the NBA

1399
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: when he was They're like, what was the pointy vibe

1400
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: when he first got in the league? Um? What did

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01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:24,200
Speaker 1: you think about Mick Cronin as Pact Boell Coach of

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Speaker 1: the Year. I like it. I mean, everything was so

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01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: close at the end. I think getting that victor, that

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01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:39,559
Speaker 1: late victory over Bobby Hurley, UM, that was big. I

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01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,559
Speaker 1: think that if you really, if you look at the

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01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:47,480
Speaker 1: improvement they had throughout the year, that's in part that's coaching, um.

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Speaker 1: And then you know with Dana Altman and Oregon, I

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01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: think that that you could have made a case for that.

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01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: But then there's also some situations and I know you

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01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: feel this way George, where I'm like, well, there there

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01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: there was some issues that probably kept them in some games,

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01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,840
Speaker 1: and they even lost them a couple. UM. So I

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01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with that at all. I honestly,

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01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,679
Speaker 1: I think the PAC twelve really nailed it from from

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01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: top to bottom. I think anybody should really have any

1416
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: good points, unlike in football, where there was plenty of complaints.

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Speaker 1: Oh for sure. UM yeah. We wanna thank you guys

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