1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hi, and hello. Check out the new episode of the 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: Dave Damnie Check Football Program. Dan Hands, Whos, Patrick Claiban, 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: and I are debating who has the best collection of 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: wide receivers in the NFL, Best TV Dad's best comebacks 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: in sports history. Check it out NFL dot com Slash podcasts. 6 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: Do You Around the NFL podcast? Can't get enough Bruno 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: Mars Welcome back to another edition of the Around the 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansens, and I am 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: joined by a room filled with some heroes, Chris Westling 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: and Greg Rose withal what's up? Boys? Hey Dan? Hey Greg? 11 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: You ready to rock now? I was just trying to 12 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: get the boys hyped up for today's three man we've 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,639 Speaker 1: when we each got to pick up the slack. When 14 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 1: there's only three of us here, that means west you 15 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: have to talk more. I didn't get the run down 16 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: until half a minute before the show. I was trying 17 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: to cram in some prep time. Well, you know, Wes, 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: You could have at some point in the hour before 19 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: the show been like, hey, Dan, did you ever send 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: out a rundown? And I would have been like, oh, 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: maybe I forgot to put your name on it here. 22 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: Let me forward this to you, bro. Would you like 23 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,759 Speaker 1: to hear my point of view on that shore? Go ahead? Well, 24 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: you were over there working away. I figured I didn't 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: want to interrupt your concentrate. Oh, plus, may have your 26 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: room to breathe over there. Plus, you know, basing it 27 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: on prior run done sending, you could have thought maybe 28 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a last minute, a late one. 29 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: Sometimes that one trust the system, Trust the system, all right. 30 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 1: You know what. Here's the thing, though, I believe you 31 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: are such a talent West that even with this minimal 32 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: amount of prep time, you're gonna hit it out of 33 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: the park. Thank you. That's a different story than before 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: the show when you were trying to replace me. But 35 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: they're now you're doing inside jokes and that now the 36 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: real question though, Just to bring this home, Hey, Greg, 37 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: you're ready to rock? I'm not ready to rock. A 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: Greg's not a rock guy, No, he's not. He likes 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: some rock music, but he doesn't hear more of a 40 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: hip hop guy. No, that's a misnomer. I mean, I 41 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 1: love I love rock too, or I love a lot 42 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: of Misconsinger songwriters. You're right, maybe it's a little soft, 43 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: softer stuff in general. I find there to be a 44 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 1: lot of misconceptions around Greg. Like on Twitter the other 45 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: day somebody was like, oh, Dan and West are so funny. 46 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: Even Greg was kind of funny on this show. I 47 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: was like, whoa Rosie slays. Well, yeah, you're unfair. Your 48 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: guys response was almost more insulting than uh than that 49 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: guy what I complimented you. Yeah, it was like, you 50 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: don't even need to respond. I said, the boss could 51 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: a machine lately? See that was a little backhanded mine, Greg, 52 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: I believe I deserve an apology. Mine was Greg slays. 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: That's that's a comedy term for someone that's doing well 54 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: in the world. I think your friends are friends, have 55 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: your back. I am. I'm happy. I bet if your boy, 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: just Genleneck would have been like, oh Greg slays, you 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: would have been like, oh, that's a big compliment. But 58 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: coming from the old suser, it's like you think I'm 59 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: taking a shot. It always comes back to our I 60 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,239 Speaker 1: don't know what that is. That's it's such ancient history 61 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: at this point. Uh. Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast, 62 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: sponsored by No One, loved by tens of thousands. Beholden 63 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: West to no One to no One, I got stuck 64 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: in to Damna Check. I was on his show yesterday. 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: You should check it out, the Dave Damage Like Football program. 66 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: After I beat him in trivia, becoming the latest guest 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: on Enemy Turf to take down Check in his own 68 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: trivia game. Uh, this time naming for or naming quarterbacks 69 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: who through touchdown passes to Jerry Rice, I I said, 70 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: deal with it. McDonald's, I'm all burger king. I heard 71 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: that I was shot across the bow of Checks Major sponsorship. 72 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: So you guys proud of me? Uh? Yeah, Mark's not here. 73 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Marks on vacation. Uh, We've been checking in with There 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: was a little discussion, do we want to get Mark 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: a call and just to see where he is because 76 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: he was doing some time in Manhattan and then all 77 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: of a suden, yeah, then well, no, he is having 78 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: the time of his life. I should say him in Manhattan, 79 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: And then he was in Massachusetts and we saw some 80 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: photos of um Caro wax Grave. So Mark was doing 81 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: that thing and now he's hanging out with his old 82 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: camp buddies. You'll call him tomorrow, then we'll check in 83 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: with him. Did it. Natalie Merchant or the ten thousand 84 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,799 Speaker 1: Maniacs have a Jack Carollac song. Mark familiar with their catalog. 85 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I like a lot of non hip hop, 86 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't throw ten thousand maniacs into that. Uh. 87 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: And but and speaking of Mark and photos and Instagram. Uh, 88 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: some unexpected and frankly delightful heat between the kissing cousins 89 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: popped up before the show. Chris westling Uh, just like 90 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,119 Speaker 1: he gets upset that his bits are underappreciated on the show, 91 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: upset that Mark gets adulation for his Instagram feed is 92 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: artistic merits as as a photog for this is a 93 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: direct quote from West. West says, I'm a great photographer. 94 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: To check out my sunsets. No, here's the direct quote 95 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: from West though. Uh, because Greg asked, oh, do people 96 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: actually like Mark's photos? They think he does like a 97 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: nice job artistic paraphrasing, and you're not that's the basic 98 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: gist of what you said. That's not true. Now you're 99 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: making Oh my god, No, you said, oh people are 100 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: you know, like he was saying, people who are really 101 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: super complimentary of his photography to the point where I 102 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: was annoying him. And I was like, I did say 103 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: it annoyed me. This is a lot of mischaracterization going on. 104 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: Here's West's exact quote. Mark quote tries to do l 105 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: a empty streets. That's not much to read into that. 106 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty much black and white. Did you 107 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: say it's black and white like most of his photos? 108 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Did you say it shot right there too? Good joke? 109 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: Did you say it now? We're now we're in on 110 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: all your jokes there. This is a bit that's gonna 111 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: have to do. I just think I'm not a big 112 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,719 Speaker 1: like pun humor guy. So maybe that's part of the 113 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:05,560 Speaker 1: reasons I don't like puns. You're a big pun guy. 114 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm not a hate pun Most of your bits that 115 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: that we miss our puns, No, they're not. How would 116 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: you know if you miss them or not? Because you 117 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: never hear that because the listeners always, you know, snitch 118 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: or not. It is there in your Twitter biout, you know, 119 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 1: like pun pun x Twitter bio unheavy football analysts. Alright, 120 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: today's show. You're right, you're right, go ahead. I'm not 121 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: annoyed at that. Mark's Instagram feed is one of my 122 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: favorites that I have. I really enjoy it. I just 123 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: use it as a little motivation motivation, just like you 124 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: assume that the minor league baseball player was gonna out 125 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: hit me in softball and that race was called months ago. 126 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: Uh wait a second, Now you're taking shots at our 127 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: shortstop Tony Garcia. No, he's our second best hitter on 128 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: the team. Wow, is he our second best player? That 129 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: he might be a better all around player than you? Well, 130 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: there you go. West has been ex and hitter uh 131 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: uh and a great teammate, but a little he's really 132 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: he needs that. He needs that. Yeah, he's like the 133 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: he's like a David Ortiz type, a great hitter, but 134 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: his feet are burning every time he has to run around. 135 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: That's not true. And that's not even close to first 136 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: a third. Last week, we go first to third on 137 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: this team. Um. On today's show, we have a little 138 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: bit of news to get too quiet time of the year. Uh. 139 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: We will talk about based off something Jameson Crowder said 140 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: of the Redskins, he believes Washington has the best wide 141 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: receiver group in the NFL. We'll talk about if that 142 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: is even remotely accurate, and if not, who does have 143 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: the best wide receivers? Gregg, you wrote a banger along 144 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: those same lines. Correct, It's a mid mid banger. You know, 145 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: that peak form, but not a hard banger, just like 146 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,679 Speaker 1: a soft banging. Yeah, okay, we will get our old 147 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: friend Kevin Patra coming at you on the phone where 148 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk to him about his personal life. That's an 149 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: important thing to talk about. But also, uh, we'll talk 150 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: about what teams that have never won a Super Bowl 151 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: have the best chance this year to win a Super Bowl. 152 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: And um, we bring that up because the Cleveland Cavaliers, 153 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: of course won their first NBA title UH in team 154 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: history on Sunday, So a lot to get to. Uh. 155 00:08:21,920 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: And before the before we do that, we'll check with 156 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: Irish behind the glass. What's up, buddy? Nothing much I 157 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: do have to back ups on the leadership on the 158 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: softball team. Nothing fueled me more than last week when 159 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: he yelled at me, you don't mean anything, um, And 160 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 1: that was that really cooled me. Taken out of context, 161 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: a lot of out of context moments that we were 162 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: down by four runs and he had a leadoff single 163 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: in the So it's not an existential statement, you just 164 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: don't mean anything. As a base runner at that point, 165 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: I know no I knew what you meant, but you 166 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: know I'm gonna take it as fuel. Like any great 167 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,960 Speaker 1: athlete would. How about some more fuel? How about if 168 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: you bet leadoff for us tomorrow night? Oh you know what, 169 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: coach tell me where to hit and I'm gonna hit. 170 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: Well you'll find out how tomorrow. But we're leaning towards 171 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: that direction. That's fine. Uh. Speaking of Irish, Ireland is 172 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: playing in the euro Cup and I have it on 173 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: a TV in the studio right now. No score eighty 174 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: first minute and the Irish are eliminated from Cup contention 175 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: if they if they if it stays this way, or 176 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: if they lose. So you know, Irish, I know you're 177 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: watching this closer. I have it on in here as well, 178 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: in my little room, so I gotta keep an eye 179 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: on Greg being dismissive, sneaky AUNTI Irish and a big 180 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: spot there. Well you're you're the biggest turn coat since 181 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: the Verizon guy switched the sprint here. You know. Whatever 182 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: happened to the old US of A. Well, they're rooting 183 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: on them last night. They're out. Okay, let's just go root. 184 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: It's another country that's wrong with that one. Separate tournaments 185 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: number one. Let we're out number two. This is America. 186 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 1: All of us are have come from other places. That's one. 187 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: I'm not for Germany. I'll tell you that. Well, you 188 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: might have other issues, but I have Irish blood and 189 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,240 Speaker 1: you know I'm going to support the Irish. Now, if 190 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: the US was playing Ireland to the World Cup USA, 191 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: these colors don't run, okay. But right now, it's all right, 192 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: let's listen new man man Now what all right? Colleen 193 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: asport and there it was. That was the clown? Who 194 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: should check on that? The pole? Real quick? I threw 195 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: up a poll. What was the best? Now what? Uh? Intro? 196 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: And the winner is with almost five sixty votes cast, 197 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: the clown does win thirty of the vote, beating out 198 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: the panic coward, Uh, the gay German disco and eight 199 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: and dramatic actor. Let's give the clown it's do now what? 200 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: And Greg you're upset because you loved the panic coward? 201 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: Man Man? No, but yeah, I I disagree with the 202 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: premise that it has to go buy a Twitter poll. 203 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: I think we should just decide. You trusting the people 204 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: to decide things. That's not always the best way to 205 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: do things. That's how Two and a half Men becomes 206 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: the most popular show in America. Fair enough, but this 207 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: also once again shows your anti family. Let's go iras 208 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: put it in, Oh, get in. Oh he blew it, 209 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: you'll blow it. Um. Great podcasting there, yelling and screaming 210 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: about a game that ended hours ago. By the time 211 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: people listen to this. Um. All right, you know, Greg, 212 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: write down with your pessimism on. Come on, captain, no 213 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 1: fund general alright, started with some news. Actually it's start 214 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: with talk about hot butts. We hear that that's a 215 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: butt roasting. That's flesh. Thomas Demetrov enters his ninth season 216 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: nine seasons is the GM of the Atlanta Falcons. They've 217 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 1: missed the playoffs in three straight years. Uh. He lost 218 00:11:58,080 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: some of his poll in the organization last year to 219 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: Scott Pioli, the team's GM Irish. The Irish put one 220 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: in by cane behind that. Okay, all right, well with 221 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 1: a bloke named Brady. Oh that's beautiful. Look at those flags. 222 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: All right, awesome, all right, now, hold on to it. 223 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: I were six minutes anyway, so uh, Dimitrov understands he's 224 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: under the microscope. Here's what he had to say. Of course, 225 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm on the hot hot seat. Every year, I'm on 226 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: the hot seat. He told the Talk of Fame network, 227 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: which is apparently a thing. I believe that. I believe 228 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: anyone who doesn't think they are maybe just and doesn't 229 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 1: think they are maybe just one a super Bowl. But 230 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: I think most of us know it's a very urgent league. Now, 231 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: uh Dimitrov, Yeah, I think that's pretty obvious. He's on 232 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: the hot seat. Let me ask you this. I'll start 233 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: with Greg on this one. Is there anybody or who 234 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: are the other coaches or excuse me, g ms or 235 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: front office figures like uh Dimitrov who are maybe even 236 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: have warmer butts than Demetrov right now or close to it? Well, 237 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: I think you'd start in Buffalo. Oh yeah, Doulon, Doug, 238 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: that would that would be one. I don't know. If 239 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: it's hotter than it's got to be close. He's beloved 240 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: by the Pagoulas seems to be, but they also had 241 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: to release a statement at the end of last year 242 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: that they were keeping him, which is never a good sign. 243 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: So he comes to mind quickly. I think David Dave calledwell, 244 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: people that want to hear it here and the plan 245 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: seems to be working in Jacksonville. And yet if they 246 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 1: go three and thirteen, four and twelve. There's got to 247 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: be a chance that they would change. I think calls 248 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: on the hot seat at all. I think Gus Brandley 249 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 1: might be that's that's more. That's more likely. Demetrov's did 250 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:45,719 Speaker 1: interesting one too, because I mean, this is a guy 251 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: who brought about the greatest era in Atlanta Falcons history. 252 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: For what it's worth, I mean, the second he came 253 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 1: in there, they've started meeting, winning immediately and consistently for 254 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: the first time ever. And yet the last three years 255 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: four wins, six wins eat winds and if they go 256 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: back under five, I wouldn't be surprised if they blow 257 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: that whole thing up. Well, I mean, just look at 258 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: this podcast. We it's anathema to talk about the Atlanta 259 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: Falcons because they're that boring. That's the roster that Dimitrof 260 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: has put together. There must be a thought to moving 261 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: into a new stadium you kind of want to have, 262 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: like they they're not gonna want to move into a 263 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 1: new stadium with the stink of of a group that 264 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: hasn't won in four or five straight years. They're gonna 265 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: want to give someone else a crack with With Matt Ryan, 266 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: have we said less sneed less Need. I don't know 267 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: if he's on I don't know. I think Jeff it's 268 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: I think it's the same thing where I think Jeff 269 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: Fisher might lose his job before less Need about Jerry Reese. 270 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 1: Reese is definitely that's a hot but but but back 271 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: to Sneed, like, I think that Snead and Fisher have 272 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: been so so hot, I mean so hot, butts um 273 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: so closely tied together. I mean they they've been arm 274 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: in arm uh more than really any other pairing in 275 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: the league. I feel like, so for one to get 276 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: get thrown out the other not to One thing that 277 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: could working in Fisher and sneats favor is that their 278 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: stadium isn't opening until and that might even buy them 279 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: that extra year and Jared goff in theory depending on 280 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: buy them an extra year. Um, what about Jerry Jones 281 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: a hundred years and now Jerry Jones won't be on 282 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: this earth and he'll still be the GM of the Cowboys, 283 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: mark my words, all right, anything else on that, guys, 284 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Let's move on alright. Pete Carroll believes that Russell Wilson, 285 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: who is entering his fifth season, I believe UH is 286 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: under the impression that Russell Wilson is now a quote 287 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: true veteran. His ability to move defenders with his eyes. 288 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: That's what Carol had to say to set up some things. 289 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: He's consistently doing that, almost unconsciously. He's so clued in. 290 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 1: We we saw him throw the ball all over the 291 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: field throughout the offseason. He's been strong and accurate and 292 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: really cise about this stuff. He has had a great offseason. 293 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: This is year five. It has taken all of this 294 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: time to get to this point, and he'll improve, but 295 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: you can really see him as a real true that 296 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: Now West, what does that mean? Because obviously Russell Wilson 297 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: two times Super Bowls or it was what the two 298 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: super Bowls won one, he's obviously a true veteran at 299 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: this point. But what is Carol saying to us this 300 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: This quote got raised my eyebrows a little bit because 301 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: it is true that even though he's had success, they 302 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: were a run first team and young quarterbacks. It does 303 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: take a half a decade. We saw that when Matt 304 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: Ryan was about in his fifth year. The coaching stap 305 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: was like, all right, this guy can finally bring the 306 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: team to the line of scrimmage. Look across the line, 307 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: get them in the right play, find a week spot 308 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: on the defense and pick on it. All the things 309 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: that Tom Brady and Peyton Manning do. He's not on 310 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: their level now. But Russell Wilson was the best quarterback 311 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL in the second half of the season 312 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: along with Cam Newton last year, and I think that's 313 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: probably when it started clicking for him. And now it 314 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me that Pete Carroll is talking to out 315 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 1: him becoming a veteran at you know, I think setting 316 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: up defenses, poking holes in it, getting his teammates in 317 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: the right spot, looking at the matchups. I think that's 318 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: all part of it. Well, it's an easy narrative because 319 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: Marshawn Lynch is gone, but it's it's overdue to turn 320 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: the team over to Russell Wilson. He played so unbelievably 321 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: well down the stretch, and the Seahawks have always been 322 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: hesitant to be a past first team because that's just 323 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: not how Pete Carroll is wired. But I think for 324 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: fantasy leaguers and for everyone else out there, I would 325 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: expect this team to operate differently this year. They not 326 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: only have a shaky backfield in terms of their running backs, 327 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: but they have great continuity and better talent at wide 328 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: receiver than they've had throughout the Russell Wilson area. You 329 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: have Doug Baldwin, who's about to get his third contract 330 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks, who has coming off as best. You're 331 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, who looks like a star in waiting. You 332 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 1: have Paul Richardson coming back who has some potential, and 333 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 1: you have Jermaine Curses your third or fourth. That's a 334 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: good group that's been to get there with Wilson, and 335 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna all start growing up together. This is the 336 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: guy who's never thrown the ball more than five times. 337 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: He's not not even got into five. And Ryan Tannell 338 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: is out there. I'd love to see that offense revolve 339 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 1: around Wilson to see how good he can really be. 340 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: I mean, people don't really talk about it. He almost 341 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: gets overlooked a little bit because his defense is so great. 342 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: But he was the best quarterback in the league for 343 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: the last two months of the season. And if you 344 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: look at the numbers, I'm sure Cam was probably right there, 345 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: but that's right there. But he was throwing four touchdowns 346 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: a game and not throwing and not turning the ball 347 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: over for two straight months down the stretch of last season. 348 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 1: I think he could be a guy. And we'll talk 349 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: about it down the line when we have a fantasy 350 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: football week. I think he's a guy that could end 351 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: up being the next big quarterback in terms of the 352 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: number one stats guy, the number one production guy, and 353 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: you want him on your roster above anybody else. Winn 354 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 1: surprise me at all. And he's a guy who's the 355 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: first one in the building, last one to leave smart 356 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: high football like you. And it's still according to Pete Carroll, 357 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: took him five years to get to the veteran quarterback spot. 358 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: Took Cam Newton five years to become NB BE. What 359 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: does that say for quarterbacks who aren't quite as good 360 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,399 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks? It just takes a long time in the en. 361 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: His numbers, though, are crazy for his career, a hundred 362 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,400 Speaker 1: and six touchdowns, thirty four interceptions. And I never would 363 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: have thought going into last year that going into two 364 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, who do you trust more to have 365 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 1: a great season, Russell Wilson or Andrew Luck. And I 366 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:28,840 Speaker 1: think I'm not saying I would rather have Russell Wilson 367 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: than Andrew Luck, But I think there's at least a 368 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: better chance that Luck has some struggles than Russell Wilson. 369 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: I completely trusted Russell Wilson to have that sort of season. 370 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 1: You're making a face, West, I don't. I'm not playing 371 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 1: your game. I don't think I have to choose between 372 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: the two. Well, why not? Because they're both Neither one 373 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: of them is going to struggle. That's fair. I agree, 374 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,640 Speaker 1: I don't think either one struggles. And yet, if I 375 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: I believe like out of those that two thousand and 376 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: twelve class, which has obviously lost some people along the 377 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: way in terms of r G three and Tannehill is 378 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: kind of in the middle, but Wilson is almost the 379 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: surest bet right now, is all I'm saying. That's your opinion. 380 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: I say, I'm raising my hands in victory. You guys 381 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: are watching you Luck. I have nothing but supreme confidence 382 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: and Andrew Luck. That's fair. Uh. The Irish just advanced, 383 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: by the way, Good job, Irish. Uh. Speaking of the 384 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks, Marshawn Lynch, who is uh you know, retired. 385 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: We believe he says he is. Will take him at 386 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: his word. Old teammate of Russell Wilson. He was on 387 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: sixty minutes sports uh recently, and he had this to 388 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: say about what made him a success, What was the 389 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,240 Speaker 1: secret to his success as a running back. I think 390 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: that's when it just clicked in my mind that if 391 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: you just run through somebody's face, a lot of people 392 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: ain't gonna be able to take that over and over 393 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: and over and over and over and over and over 394 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: and over and over and over and over and over 395 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: and over and over and over. They just not gonna 396 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: want that. And then as a follow up, the interviewer 397 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 1: had this to ask, I think there's a deeper metaphor there, 398 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: run through him up face. I'm gonna miss that guy. 399 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: He's the best. You know, we don't say it in 400 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: this era anymore, but football is still about hitting people. 401 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmm yeah, and nobody did it better. I mean 402 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: that guy, No wonder he got out of thirty. We 403 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: don't know what we were talking. You know, we're reading 404 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: about Big Poppy with the Red Sox. He said he 405 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: can't even move anywhere his feet hurt so much. I 406 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 1: can't even imagine that. And Marshall Marshawn Lynch is not 407 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: the type of guy to talk about it, But he's 408 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: got to be sore when he gets up in the morning. 409 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: The amount of abuse that he doled out to defenders 410 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: for a decade in the NFL, some of that comes 411 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: back on himself. So you know, maybe we shouldn't have 412 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: been so surprised that he was a guy that got 413 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: earlier rather than later. I'm not surprised at all any 414 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: time did well with getting the guaranteed money. I'm fired 415 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 1: up after listening to that speech. Do you can apply 416 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: that to other things in life? For sure? And I 417 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: want to go knock West over like I once did 418 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: over at the NFL Now studio. That's why I've kind 419 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: of fired up. I just what I irish? What's my 420 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: favorite foot or softball? Chere? When you're up to bat, 421 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: hit it in the face? Ye, hit the ball in 422 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: the face. That's what you do when you're hitting um. 423 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: And finally, in the news, J J. Watt, the Houston 424 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,880 Speaker 1: Texans UH Dynamo got into a little Twitter feud with 425 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: Mike Florio of p F t UH and you know, 426 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: to me it was said it was all over a 427 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: tweet that J. J. Watts sent out um of himself 428 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: in a very tight USA Soccer jersey and I'm saying 429 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: jersey because, by the way, not for nothing I was. 430 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get more and more into soccer and 431 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: I'm very happy about the Republic of Ireland. Uh. I'll 432 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: go along with you when you talk about you know, 433 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: we're on the pitch and you know it's not a game, 434 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,479 Speaker 1: it's a match. But I can't come with you one kid, 435 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. I cannot calling a grown 436 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: man at or whatever he's wearing, well, you're not calling 437 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: him not where. I'm not calling his outfit. But that's reform. 438 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 1: It's just uniform. I don't think they're making a judgment. 439 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: First of all, it's very big of you to adopt 440 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: the vocabulary of the word. I'm coming at it from 441 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: a person that watches, well, you're coming at from the 442 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: other side of now, I'm coming at someone that's watches 443 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: tennis and they called the tennis. They call that kits 444 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: because it's like it's the whole uniform. It's not just 445 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: it's not just the jersey, but as opposed to the NFL, 446 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: it's the shirts and shorts. Everybody's got a full uniform, right, 447 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: So that's that's fair. That's called the uniform. I guess 448 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 1: the kit I think is to you know, say the 449 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: whole thing. Anyway, I like k okay. So anyway, So 450 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: J J. Watson out of tweet, he's in a skin 451 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 1: tight USA kit. Uh. It's signed by I guess the 452 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: entire team, and he writes, of course, he writes it 453 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: kit is a bit snug but ready if called upon 454 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: hashtag USA versus Argentina did not go well for the US. 455 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: We're still working on that. But again, West, these cars 456 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: they do not run. What are you want walking? Toby 457 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: Keith song? But then Pro Football Talk replied, and that 458 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: is Mike Florio who runs that account, correct, Raig the 459 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: most part, other people can sit out the links. Yes, 460 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 1: but if if it's just someone tweeting out some opinions, 461 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: it's Mike Greg used to work for that company. In fact, 462 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: very close with Mike Florio at some point. That's why 463 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna get his opinions on this. In a second, uh, 464 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: Florio countered by quote retweeting watts tweet, and then said, 465 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: why does everyone want to talk about me? I'm just 466 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: minding my own business and seeking no attention at all. 467 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: An old what quote and what he's doing. He's getting 468 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: on what for bringing attention to himself and being a 469 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: guy that doesn't have a lot of I guess um 470 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,679 Speaker 1: modesty about himself, which is something we've been talking about forever, 471 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: both on this podcast and uh in written form on 472 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: the end around in other places. And now p F 473 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: t ruined it for you for me once, once Florio 474 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 1: is involved and he's the one sling in the arrows, 475 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: I no longer feel it's cool to to get on 476 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 1: what's back because now I don't know who to who 477 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: to root for. The waters have been muddied, and I'm 478 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: getting out here, so r I P what exactly are 479 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 1: we resting in peace here? J J. Watt criticism. I'm 480 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 1: no longer February two thousand sixteen through June two six 481 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: been longer than that. I mean it went back all 482 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: the way but even before hard knocks, remember when he 483 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: was rapping. That's a good point. That was like kind 484 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: of peak false humility for J. J. Watt Um. I 485 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: don't follow pro football talk on Twitter because I don't 486 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: need to know when the fifty third guy in the 487 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: roster got released or signed to a minimum contract or whatever. 488 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 1: Don't we do that on our account too, though that's fair. 489 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: Do you follow around the NFL? I do we? We don't. 490 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: We tweet me more meaningful things, um like that a 491 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: little heat there, gimpft and around the NFL. That's not 492 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 1: true at all. You were saying you agree with the essentially, 493 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: I agree with it. They you agree with his point. 494 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: But I've been on record the whole time about what 495 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,440 Speaker 1: with this stuff? But you know, but then Floria doubled 496 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: down and he wrote a six seventy one word post 497 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: where he, uh, you know, explained his side of this. 498 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 1: This is the stuff that happens in the end of June. 499 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: What what went after you know, what went after him? 500 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 1: Said to take his saltiness elsewhere. And do you know 501 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: why wat went after him? It's because he feels like 502 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: this when people tear him up. It hits me right 503 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: in the heart. It hits him right there, like he's 504 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: just trying to be himself and people are just coming 505 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: at him like that. It's not cool. You know. This 506 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: is where I would then say, no, he's a phony, 507 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: but that's it and you're done with it. But if 508 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: you said that, then he would be like, oh, that's 509 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: all I know. Listen that that's he's dynamic. I like it. 510 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: This says remind me of um. The song from the 511 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: new movie which quickly left theaters pop Star never stopped stopping. 512 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: I believe about what is it called I'm the Most Humble, 513 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: which is a great I'm so humble. Uh Yeah, that 514 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 1: movie did not do well. I was one of seven 515 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: people to see in the theaters. I believe it. The 516 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: song is unbelievable. That's what's happening in the news. I'm 517 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: out J. J. Watt. Do whatever you want, buddy. You 518 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: won't see any heat coming from NFL dot com anymore. 519 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: An end around staple no longer gonna either, can't do 520 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: it anymore. The fund's been taking out of it, taken 521 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: out of it, all right, let's talk about it. Jamison 522 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: Crowder is uh a wide receiver UM for the Washington Redskins. Uh, 523 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: he's a slot receiver. Had a nice, nice rookie season 524 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 1: fifty nine for six oh four. So he's part of 525 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: the future there in Washington. UM. Now they've added Josh Dotson, 526 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: of course, and you already had Sean Jackson in the building. 527 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: Pierre Garcon is in the building. You have Jordan's red 528 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: lining lining up a tight end might be the best 529 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: player out of that whole group, might be uh. And 530 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: he was asked on ESPN nine eight UH if he 531 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: believed that the Redskins have the best receiver in the league, 532 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: and he had this to say, Yeah, yeah, we do. 533 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: We think that, you know, we're the best in the league, 534 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: knowing that we've got guys like d Jacks, Pierre Garson, 535 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: Like you said, Jordan Reid, he had a great season 536 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: last year. We even added Vernon Davis a tight end. 537 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 1: Let's slow down there, but he's still another weapon that 538 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: we can really can really help us out in the 539 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: passing game. And he goes on and on and on. Uh, 540 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: do the Redskins at the best wide receivers in the 541 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: league West or this receiving corps? They have the best, 542 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: They have the best receiver cors in the trainers room. 543 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: How can you count on Jordan read into Shaan Jackson 544 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: to stay healthy all year? I mean it sounds great 545 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 1: in June to say they have they have the best 546 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver corps. I wouldn't put them over the Cardinals 547 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: play any stress. It is on paper and that's a 548 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: fair point. Garson also Uh played through some injuries last year, 549 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: and for what it's where Josh Statson didn't practice for 550 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: most this offseason while he's struggling with the injury. So 551 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: that's that's a good point. But that is the deepest 552 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: group in the league. I mean that is fine. I 553 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: would take the Cardinals as a much deeper group, throwing J. J. 554 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: Nelson and David Johnson and Darren Fells and Andrea Ellington well. 555 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 1: For the purpose of this sect from the exercise I 556 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: wrote about, I only counted receivers and tight ends. I 557 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: didn't throw in running backs into the receiver group, which 558 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: definitely would help the Cardinals out and hurt hurt the Redskins. 559 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: But that's five deep in quality. You're going J. J. 560 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: Nelson as what your fifth, So you have Fitzgerald Brown, 561 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 1: Floyd Nelson, and then Geron Brown would be your Who's 562 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,719 Speaker 1: gotten rave reviews all off season from Arians and they 563 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: have not used the tight end a ton, although he 564 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: Fells has looked good in in spurts for them, especially 565 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: late last year. Redskins are taking you out there in 566 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: the four and five spots. So just in terms of depth, 567 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: I would go Washington, But I did rank to your point, 568 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: Cardinals were my number one, because I think they're better 569 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: in terms of quality. I think you've got an all 570 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: time great coming off an all time game and Fitzgerald. 571 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: You have a great deep threat in Floyd Uh, you 572 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: have Brown who is incredible, and I think Nelson and 573 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: who knows what we'll see out of the rest of 574 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: that team. I think we'll see a better John Brown 575 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: than last year, by the way, who had a nice season, 576 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: no doubt, but he could have been better. He left 577 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: some yards on the field. If he takes the next step, 578 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: even if fits comes down a little bit, which we 579 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: talked about the Superstar Club, that there's a that there's 580 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: some belief at least in this room that not by West, 581 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: of course, that he could take a step back in 582 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: his age thirty two season. If Brown takes a step up, 583 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: they're gonna stay right at that elite level. At the 584 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: wide receiver positions. I would take all three of those 585 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals wide receivers over any Redskins wide receiver. I will 586 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: I would not. Wow, that's interesting. They are. They are 587 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: better at the top. Garson as a guy who I've 588 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: always thought is almost underrated, drops some passes, but physical 589 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: great after the catch. Two Sean Jackson. I don't know 590 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: if he's underrated, but he's got a unique skill set. 591 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,719 Speaker 1: It's not like these guys are lousy. And Crowder had 592 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 1: a great I think Crowder is a good player. And Crowder, Crowder, 593 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: Dotson and read even if Garsona Jackson are gone after 594 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: this year, that's a nice one to three. Crowder looks 595 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: like kind of what you're looking for slack guy, and 596 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: I West is right d Jacks always hurt, but he's 597 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: given no indication that when he is healthy he's still 598 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: the best deep guy in the league. It's a nice 599 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 1: looking group. Would you put them second? West, No, I 600 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: would take the Patriots. Well. On Greg's list, Greg's having 601 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 1: the team with Gronk over the team with the all 602 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: the guys who were always injured. Greg has Arizona one, 603 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: Washington two, and you have the Pats three. Well, Gronk, 604 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: to me, is so much better than anyone else at 605 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: tight end and one of the all time best players 606 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: at the position. That's a huge edge right there. I 607 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: think Julian Edelman is obviously a very good receiver, and 608 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: now you have Martellis Bennett would be the number three, 609 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: and you've got some decent depth in Avendola and Hogan. Not. 610 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 1: The more I look at this, I'm just not as 611 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: impressed with the Redskins as everyone else's. I think I'd 612 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: take give me Damarius Thomas, Emmanuel Sanders in any two 613 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: or three bums over the Redskins collection. Really, I I 614 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: disagree because Read, first of all, is a top we 615 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: we think he's the top five receivers when he plays okay, 616 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: which is very rarely. Uh, garsone, Jackson, and Crowder to 617 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: me are all starters and Dots in a lot of 618 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: people thought as the most pro ready guy of any 619 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: of these rookies. So these are quality starters. If you're 620 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: going five deep with quality starters, that's pretty good. Redskins 621 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: have a very high ceiling, but also a very low 622 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: floor as a group if they all get hurt. Of course, 623 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: here's one group, the Jaguars. You have Greg, you have 624 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: them as your your fourth best wide out or a 625 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: receiver group that seems about right. On the check Show 626 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 1: yesterday I mentioned them when talking about the best wide 627 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: receiver groups, especially if Julius Thomas, let's see, is he 628 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: a little is he trimmed down? Have we seen anything 629 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: in the the O t A right up sir, and 630 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: he's a little peepee last Yes, we have seen a 631 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: few things that he's trimmed down and that you know, 632 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: he's picking up the offense better. We'll see the problem 633 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: with the Jets. Let's just let's just wait, let's bring 634 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: this up. Now, you're not allowed to bring it up 635 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 1: because you once again, as is usual when whether it's 636 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: a scientist or mark, you know, I'm always on the 637 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: defense of the Jets. It doesn't matter what they do. 638 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: Because the best one to combination in football last year 639 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: at wide receiver. You would think they would crack a 640 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: top four on a list like this. Brandon Marshall's numbers 641 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 1: and Eric Decker we're fabulous as a tandem last year. 642 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: And then you go arbitrary, Greg because you you say, oh, well, 643 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: include tight ends in this. But even though it's a 644 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen and teams spread out their offenses, I 645 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: won't allow any receiver group that Corte is one or 646 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: two years removed from one hundred catch season. He will 647 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: be a huge part of the passing game for the 648 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,440 Speaker 1: Jets this year, So I include Matt Forte. So then 649 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: you got Brandon Marshall, Eric Decker and Matt Forte all 650 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: on the same offense. That is to me, a top 651 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: three receiver group. Well, if you're if you're adding running 652 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: backs in, it changes the whole equation. Yes, not just 653 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: funny that you'll find a way to eliminate the position 654 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: group that will keep the Jets. I like that you 655 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,080 Speaker 1: think that the whole strategy behind it was I see you. 656 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: There were many teams like the Broncos that you mentioned, 657 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,600 Speaker 1: Marius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders West where the fall off 658 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: after the top two was immense. Not only did a 659 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: team not have a third receiver like the Broncos, but 660 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,880 Speaker 1: they don't have a tight end like the Broncos. The Jets, 661 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: for instance, do not really have a third receiver and 662 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: do not really have a tight end right now. The 663 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,880 Speaker 1: Bucks have Mike Evans and Vincent Jackson's We'll see if 664 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: your boy Cameron brad or Austin Severian jacking step. I'm 665 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm not nominating the Bucks right And the one team 666 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,279 Speaker 1: I that almost made it that that I felt the 667 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 1: worst about where the Bengals, Because to me, a J Green, 668 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: Tyler Eiffer and whoever else you can find is a 669 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 1: great is a great group. But I first also an injured, 670 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: injury prone type of guy. That's a good conversation. Good 671 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: you called a soft banger. It was pretty hard. It 672 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: was medium level. I did pick a couple of teams 673 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: likely to rise. I love that DeVante Parker Jarvis Landry combination. 674 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 1: You really love the Dolphins. Yeah, are all in? Who 675 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: are we just talking about the other day? Because these receivers. Yes, 676 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 1: I got a hard banger for you. Okay, why don't 677 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: you rank from one to thirty two each starting quarterback 678 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,440 Speaker 1: according to the weapons they have at their disposal, so 679 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,279 Speaker 1: that that would include the running backs and whatnot. Does 680 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: that include the offensive yes, mm hmmm, it's interesting. I 681 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: like that. I like West given some love to the 682 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: line too, because they don't get called weapons a lot. 683 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: You never hear a left tackle called a weapon, but 684 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: they certainly are. You're tell me, Joe Thomas, the best 685 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: pass blocking uh tackle in the game is not a weapon. 686 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,440 Speaker 1: Keeping heat off you, I'm stepping up. I'm stepping up 687 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: to the plate for Connor war who loves offensive lineman? 688 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: He is, he he does. He's annually the only person 689 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: that nominates an offensive lineman for making the leap. So 690 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, just for diversity. Who's this nominee this year, 691 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: Jake Matthews. Jake the Snake finished off last year pretty well. 692 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: By the way, that Steelers, if they had Martevis Bryant, 693 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: would have been one or two. I'm not telling him. 694 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,320 Speaker 1: By the way, that's the answer to the best wide 695 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: receiver duo in the league list. You're Antonio Brown and 696 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: Martevis Bryant. That's that's true. I think I would take 697 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: them over the Jets. Maybe not total production. I don't 698 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: know if the numbers. Well, Brian sat out the first 699 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: six games of the year and then he came back 700 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: and they were unstoppable. Well, I'm just saying the Jets, 701 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: I'll use that in their defense as well, that there 702 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: was no other options on that offense besides those two guys, 703 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 1: and they had a top ten offense. I'm not great 704 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: the Steelers. I am not gonna like fight you on that. 705 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 1: I mean, those guys are both incredibly explosive. So yeah, 706 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: that's cool. The Stealers can go out of the Jets, 707 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: but the Jets should be in the top four. I'm sorry, 708 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: all right, So who are you taking out the Jags? 709 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: Maybe the Skins West has got me thinking, now a 710 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: lot of things have to go right for the Skins 711 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: to have a great, white, great offense this year. Quincy 712 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: and Noon, No, I'm telling you that's not a good situation. 713 00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,920 Speaker 1: All right? Moving on? Oh can we uh? I were? 714 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: When can we get our good friend, a local tough 715 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: from the city of Chicago, but one of the last 716 00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 1: guys you want to encounter in an alley when the 717 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: chips are down, the resident tough guy of Around the NFL, 718 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: A warrior in the streets, a gentleman in the bedroom, 719 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: and man that's that steps down, steps back from no challenge. 720 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: Our own John snow covered in blood, gasping for air, 721 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: but never giving up. Eventually Brandon will get him on 722 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: the line. I want the rest of the show to 723 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,240 Speaker 1: be stretching out. I wanted to be for ten more minutes, 724 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,319 Speaker 1: and we never even get Patrick on the phone. The 725 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 1: show just ends like that. A guy with a six 726 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: o'clock shadow. It's a five o'clock shadow, five clock shadow. 727 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: That's like good. Hell's Kevin Patra what's up, buddy, Welcome 728 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: back to the Around the NFL podcast. We were just 729 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 1: speaking of your glory before this. My glory. Yeah, just 730 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,720 Speaker 1: in general, if you want to listen to three minutes 731 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: of an uncomfortable pumping up of Kevin Patra as we 732 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: waited to get you on the phone, just listen to 733 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: today's podcast. I'll remember. Let's part we um. We have 734 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: a lot to get to with keV about what's going 735 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: on in his life, uh, and what's going on in 736 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 1: his weight room, and what's going on outside the windows 737 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: he looks down upon the city of Chicago while lifting 738 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: uh stark naked. But before we get to that, we 739 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: want to talk some football with keV. Does that sound cool? 740 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:49,719 Speaker 1: That sounds great? Can I tell can I tell you 741 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: something good? I just I wanted to vocally congratulate you 742 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: on your new child. Not usually uh pro human procreation, 743 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,319 Speaker 1: but you see, my you got it under control. So 744 00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: I like, I really appreciate that. I know what you're saying. Yeah, 745 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: some people that they're they're either not responsible enough to 746 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: bring a child into the world or not. You know, 747 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: don't have the financial warwithal Uh. I know what you're saying, 748 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: but that could be your Twitter bio. Kevin not usually 749 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: in favor of human procreation. How do you feel about 750 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: young children on airplanes. Patrick Patroll learned that the soft 751 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,880 Speaker 1: version of Kevin Patrick will soon learned that that's something 752 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,560 Speaker 1: that a young parent can't really avoid, especially if your 753 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: family lives in different parts of the country. But that 754 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 1: will say that for another conversation. Let's start right now, 755 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,520 Speaker 1: and what we're gonna talk about is which team will 756 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,320 Speaker 1: be when it's first Super Bowl in two thousand seventeen 757 00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: when the trophy is handed off at Reliance Stadium UH 758 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: in Houston. Get excited, everybody. There's thirteen teams, which is surprising. 759 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: You would think they'd be less than thirteen out of 760 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: the thirty two NFL teams that have UH won the 761 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But here's the list, and we you know, 762 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: it doesn't count AFL titles obviously, Bills, Bengals, Browns, Texans, Jaguars, Titans, Cardinals, Falcons, Panthers, Lions, Vikings, Eagles, 763 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: and the San Diego Superchargers. And for the purpose of 764 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: this exercise, and we'll start with Kevin Patrick here, let's 765 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: let's kind of stay away from the Cardinals and Panthers 766 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:34,399 Speaker 1: because I think everyone is kind of, you know, has 767 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 1: a feeling that these are two of the top six 768 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 1: to eight teams in the league, So you're not really 769 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: hanging onion to say that those are much like the 770 00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 1: Calves were the favorites in the NBA East this season. Well, 771 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what does that have to do with anything. 772 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: Oh I thought we were. I thought this was inspired 773 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,839 Speaker 1: by the Calves winning their first time. Yeah, they cas won. 774 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,760 Speaker 1: But if we did that same exercise before that season started, 775 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: we wouldn't talk about the Calves because they'd be the 776 00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,839 Speaker 1: heavy favorite. But well, we can we can wait. I'm 777 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: gonna stand you know what, I'm gonna step back now, 778 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 1: Greg and West will listen to themselves talk about how 779 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 1: the Panthers and Cardinals could win the Super Bowl this year. 780 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,920 Speaker 1: Go ahead, guys, and then let me know when I 781 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: can get in. Go ahead to teach us something about 782 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 1: these two teams. They're the favorites to win the Super Bowl. 783 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,319 Speaker 1: Oh that's fascinating. What else, Well, just you have to 784 00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,120 Speaker 1: acknowledge off the top. If if the whole ideas which 785 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,800 Speaker 1: teams are most likely to win there for Super Bowl, 786 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: then then you point those teams out. That's what I 787 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: just did, and you guys start you can pick one 788 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: over the other. I think the Cardinals are more likely 789 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: than the Panthers. If you got to pick one, I 790 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: would go Cardinals. Cool. Uh, maybe the Browns. All right, 791 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 1: so we can all right, I'm jumping back in. Alright, 792 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: the Cardinals and Panthers are the teams that are most likely, 793 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: now Patrick get us going at besides those two teams, 794 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: which team in that list of those remaining eleven do 795 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: you think has the most realistic chance here? I think 796 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,399 Speaker 1: I would go with the minnesot of Vikings. I think 797 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: on the strength of them, my Simmer, I think they 798 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,319 Speaker 1: could pull off sort of what um, we saw the 799 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: last couple of years with the Panthers getting into the playoffs, 800 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: getting deep into the playoffs on the strength of their defense. 801 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that you guys in that room 802 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 1: aren't huge Teddy Bridgewater fans, and we've seen much worse 803 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 1: quarterbacks win Super Bowls. Um. I think with you young core, 804 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: young front seven in the defense, Anthony Barr, Eric Kendricks 805 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,440 Speaker 1: coming into their own, I think this could be a 806 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: team that is going to fight with the Packers for 807 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 1: the NFC North. They'll get into the playoffs as a 808 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,799 Speaker 1: wild card. They should have beat the Seahawks flash years. 809 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: They almost beat the Cardinals in the regular season on 810 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 1: the on a primetime game, and if Jeddy Bridge and 811 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,520 Speaker 1: screwed up, they probably could have won that game. So 812 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: I think this is a young team that's wots something 813 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 1: and they got added some new pieces in Lakwan Treadwell. 814 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: I think that they're the team out of the other 815 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 1: eleven that I would go with. I think Teddy Bridgewater 816 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: would need to be better. You said, we've seen a 817 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: lot of teams win Super Bowls with quarterbacks, you know, 818 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: worse than Teddy Bridge. There haven't been that many. Can 819 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 1: say a lot. I didn't say a lot. I said, 820 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: we've seen teams with work. Yeah, it's happened. But I 821 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 1: think he would need to last. Yeah. I think you 822 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: just wouldn't need to take that next step to whether 823 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: it's to two thousand and fifteen Andy Dalton or or 824 00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: even you know, just a bordering on a top ten quarterback. 825 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: I think you you need a guy that's willing to 826 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 1: go down the field a little more, able to go 827 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,279 Speaker 1: down the field a little more. But I think you're right. 828 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: I think this is a team that's set up to win. Now. 829 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:22,959 Speaker 1: It's a young team, but they've been together a little 830 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: while now, and you have Adrian Peterson still kind of 831 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:27,959 Speaker 1: at the tail end of his prime, and you gotta 832 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: do it before that ends. The a f C version 833 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: of the Vikings. Yes, the Houston Texas Okay, with a 834 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: very good defense, you could even argue the best in 835 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: the league, or can be the best in the league. 836 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: And then the major question markets quarterback. It's brock ostwald 837 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 1: in the same neighborhood as Teddy Bridgewater. He is, yeah, 838 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: I mean he could be. Is there a situation where 839 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: if you we've talked about it, that Oswilder is a 840 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,399 Speaker 1: huge question mark. Nobody really didn't get paid like he's 841 00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: a question mark. But he is. But if if you 842 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: really had to, you know, make a prediction, would he 843 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: be about as good as Teddy Bridgewater. That wouldn't be 844 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: a crazy prediction. So they would be in a very 845 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: same boat. But what if he actually turned out to 846 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,440 Speaker 1: be a good player, then they would be an a 847 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: f C, A real a f C team to to 848 00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: worry about. I would think if you're the Patriots or 849 00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: anyone else, the key there would be that Dan boy 850 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller would have to become the Adrian Peters some 851 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 1: of that team. I had something about the Texans. Yeah, 852 00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: they they seem like a team in the mix. But 853 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: I think the obvious, the obvious one that we haven't 854 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,640 Speaker 1: mentioned is the Cincinnati Bengals, And that would be my 855 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,400 Speaker 1: choice for sure because that's they've got the best roster 856 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,080 Speaker 1: of any of these teams, and you could make a 857 00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 1: strong argument that they have fewer weaknesses than the Cardinals 858 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,000 Speaker 1: or the Panthers. So I don't think it's crazy to 859 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: even put the Bengals close to their level in terms 860 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,400 Speaker 1: of a team that should be expecting to make the 861 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: playoffs or else it will be a huge disappointment a 862 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,479 Speaker 1: team that does not have any big time weaknesses right 863 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 1: now and a team that has shown they can make 864 00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: the playoffs at least, they just gotta start figuring out 865 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: how to in some games there. That's also similar to Cleveland. 866 00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: It's a team that needs to get the monkey off 867 00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,640 Speaker 1: their back after a lot of years of postseason futility. Yeah, 868 00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: you can't discount the Demons, and there's no way after 869 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,200 Speaker 1: especially after what happened this past January that and it 870 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,439 Speaker 1: no matter what they do in the regular season, that's 871 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: gonna be something that's on the that team's mind. There's 872 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,399 Speaker 1: gonna be some tightness. You you have to assume that. 873 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,840 Speaker 1: But maybe if Andy Dalton is healthy this time around 874 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,040 Speaker 1: and he's able to build off or have a similar 875 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: season to last season, they have everything there that would 876 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,440 Speaker 1: that would be my pick as well. Greg, But I 877 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: am wary, probably more than other people, uh, of the 878 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: demons factor. And that's why Minnesota is a team that 879 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: really spooks me if you want to get excited about him, 880 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: because so many bad things happened to the Vikings when 881 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,759 Speaker 1: you get to January, and Cincinnati is obviously, uh, it's 882 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: well documented their inability to put a game together when 883 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 1: it counts. There's some obstacles there, but there's gonna that's 884 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: gonna be true for all these teams, the Bills, the Browns. 885 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,200 Speaker 1: You know, obviously no one thinks the Browns are gonna 886 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl this year. The Chargers. I mean, 887 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,040 Speaker 1: it's one of these teams, the Chargers. Look at the 888 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,480 Speaker 1: postseason heartbreak, that's what that's why they're on this list. 889 00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,800 Speaker 1: If everything goes perfectly this year, couldn't you see the 890 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,080 Speaker 1: Chargers winning the Super Bowl? That would have been my 891 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,840 Speaker 1: dark horse pick. Everything went right for that would probably 892 00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,359 Speaker 1: like fifth or six, I say, Gordon becomes who they 893 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 1: thought they were drafting. The offensive line stays healthy, Keenan 894 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 1: Allen's the number one. Gates has one more Indian Summer year. 895 00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:27,840 Speaker 1: Rivers plays like an m v P. The young defense 896 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: has started to play well last year. Denzel Perriman's an 897 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,040 Speaker 1: All Pro. That's a lot make Joey Bows's Rookie of 898 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,520 Speaker 1: the Year potential, making the leap candidate. Denzel Perriman, By 899 00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: the way, it's throwing that out there, there's I don't know. 900 00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 1: The Chargers have some upside. I like this. The headline 901 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,400 Speaker 1: for this podcast, Wesleyan Patra says Chargers could win the 902 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl if everything breaks Yeah, if everything breaks right, 903 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 1: I like it. I don't think it's that crazy. Uh. 904 00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: The Jaguars still seem like they could be a year 905 00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: or two away. But they're a very interesting team. If 906 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,720 Speaker 1: you if they take the next step on both sides 907 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,600 Speaker 1: of the ball, but I mean asking them to do 908 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 1: it in ten that might be a lot. The Browns 909 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: got a lot of work to do obviously. The Bills, 910 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,319 Speaker 1: I think we've all been pretty upfront about we don't 911 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,439 Speaker 1: think they have their actor. I don't think if we're 912 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: making a list for instance that I know we did 913 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: this last year. Teams that have no chance to win 914 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,120 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl just kind of a mean list to 915 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 1: put together. But you know, this is a is a 916 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,399 Speaker 1: league where everyone feels like you have something. I think 917 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: the Bills are not on that list. I think the 918 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,440 Speaker 1: Bills are a team that could win the Super Bowl 919 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 1: if everything broke. The Chargers club, they're in the Chargers club. Yeah, 920 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,440 Speaker 1: and I would put them even a little below that. 921 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,240 Speaker 1: But it's not an untalented team. You've got some track 922 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: record with the coaching staff. It's not that crazy. Who's 923 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: the West? Who's the best young quarterback on this list? 924 00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: We haven't talked about them yet. Marcus Mariota, Yeah, I 925 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,879 Speaker 1: thought you men seeing Bradford, are they on the list? West? 926 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,759 Speaker 1: If everything clicks with a young Mariota, a young Montana 927 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: at the controls, could they shock the world this year? Anyone? 928 00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: Here's what I would say, if everything clicks, the Titans 929 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: can win the a f C South. I'm not willing 930 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 1: to say that they can win the super Bowl, much 931 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: more cannot win the super Bowl. Well, we we haven't 932 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,200 Speaker 1: mentioned the elephant in the room here. You're you're Detroit Lions. 933 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:18,440 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick potentially with no Megatron and then they win 934 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But little ewing theory in Motown. Now, 935 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 1: the ewing theory would have been with Sue last year. 936 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: That would have been what it was. So you're quickly 937 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 1: you can't lose your two best players back to back 938 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 1: years anything. And how how about the theory floated a 939 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,640 Speaker 1: little while back and I forgot about ease. It's a 940 00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: one to punch. But Sue and Megatron gone back to 941 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: back years. That that when you guys got robbed in 942 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: the in Dallas, the window closed in it. Oh it's 943 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 1: got slammed shut. Yeah, that sucks. I don't think that. Well, 944 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what to think the Lisa, the Eagles. 945 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: The Eagles you trust Sam Bradford. I think the Eagles 946 00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,960 Speaker 1: can make the layoffs. In fact, I'm probably gonna predict. 947 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna gonna predict them to win the 948 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,439 Speaker 1: If you got them going to the dance, you gotta 949 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:08,440 Speaker 1: say they have it there. But he just said the 950 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,879 Speaker 1: Titans could be winning the FC South. No, I think 951 00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: there is a difference. The Eagles are a great example 952 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,880 Speaker 1: of making the playoffs does not mean you are a 953 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:20,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender because they made the playoffs under Chip Kelly, 954 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: and there was no scenario if they played that playoffs 955 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,440 Speaker 1: out a hundred times that that team was going to 956 00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 1: win the super Bowl. There's always the ninth, tenth, eleven teams, 957 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:30,680 Speaker 1: and every once in a while someone makes a run 958 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: or whatever. But I think in a best case scenario, 959 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,880 Speaker 1: that's where they're at losing first round, and it is not. 960 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:38,759 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a coincidence with the only team 961 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: we haven't talked about yet is the Atlanta Falcons. Patras 962 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 1: say something nice about the Falcons about how they could 963 00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:49,320 Speaker 1: be Destiny's Darling. Well, maybe Julio Jones catches like thirty 964 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,479 Speaker 1: touchdown passes I would have put a past which would 965 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,360 Speaker 1: be a record. That would be a record, But you 966 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,879 Speaker 1: do you have a quarterback, you have maybe the number 967 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 1: one receiver in the NFL, and you have a defense 968 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,680 Speaker 1: that was somehow average last year despite very below average talent. 969 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,319 Speaker 1: So maybe that indicates dan Quinn's a pretty good coach 970 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: and could get them going. Alright, I'm not winning the supermol. 971 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 1: Good talk, guys. Patrick. Now let's touch on a couple 972 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,919 Speaker 1: more things before you go, because it his it has 973 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,920 Speaker 1: been a while. First thing up, let's check in on 974 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: the PBR, the PVR, Yes, the Patrick Body Report. What's 975 00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: going on with your body? Is it hot? I mean 976 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 1: it's summer, so it's it's it's a little bit more 977 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: core work. Try to cut in the summer, bulk in 978 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: the in the winter. That's my usual thing. I just 979 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: started a new new workout program. It's a bunch of 980 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:47,200 Speaker 1: Aussies essentially yelling at you, kick boxing and on those 981 00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: sort of stuff. It's also said you have a special 982 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,840 Speaker 1: breakfast program you've been in for a year where you 983 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: don't need a normal breakfast. I just yeah, it's just 984 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: a shakeology thing. It's just to shake every morning, shakelog 985 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 1: shake aology. And you know you said it's summertime and 986 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: you're cutting now, um, cutting weight at this time of year, 987 00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,719 Speaker 1: and you say summer is it kind of like? Right? 988 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,160 Speaker 1: Is it? The is it kind of the thing that 989 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,759 Speaker 1: Bill part the old Bill parcels is um, It's like, 990 00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 1: this is why you lift all them weights because you're 991 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,239 Speaker 1: thinking about being on the beach with your lady and 992 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,640 Speaker 1: it's time to have uh, nice pecks and nice tries 993 00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:28,480 Speaker 1: and a nice flat belly. Well that and I'm I. 994 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm beer drinkers. So you know where that goes, right 995 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,959 Speaker 1: through the guts. You gotta you gotta kick some time 996 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: off and you know, concentrate on that part of the 997 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:37,760 Speaker 1: part of the body. And now let's talk about your girlfriend, 998 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: because without it getting into specifics, Yeah, no, it's just 999 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: because Number one, have you found once you get into 1000 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:51,880 Speaker 1: a committed relationship, Uh, is it harder to or is 1001 00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 1: there still the same drive to stay in peak physical shape? Um? No, 1002 00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: for me, it's a routine thing. So that I don't 1003 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,719 Speaker 1: think she can much. I mean she cares clearly, but no, no, 1004 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,400 Speaker 1: that that I don't think that had anything to do 1005 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: it or does have anything to do with it For 1006 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: me personally, I don't know. I can after rest the 1007 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,400 Speaker 1: guys in the room, have you ever put any of 1008 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: her quotes on your motivational quote board? Question mark? Uh? No, 1009 00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: absolutely not because then she'd see it. And then finally, 1010 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 1: I just I want to touch base about how has 1011 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: love changed your philosophy on life? And I point to, uh, 1012 00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: your Facebook profile photo, which is a adorable photo of 1013 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: you and your love on a bed. You're it's a 1014 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: selfie shot and it's a soft side of of Kevin 1015 00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:42,720 Speaker 1: Patrick that we, frankly West never get to see. Uh, 1016 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 1: it's a beautiful photo. Is this Is this a sign 1017 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 1: that that love has changed you, that you're perhaps um 1018 00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: less cynical, more more in love with the world. If 1019 00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,800 Speaker 1: you will, you know what, I'll let others be the 1020 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,200 Speaker 1: judge of that. I'm not. I don't know. What's the 1021 00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,440 Speaker 1: hardest thing to do is judge yourself, right, I guess 1022 00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 1: I'm I guess I'd say I'm happier. That helps you, Well, yeah, 1023 00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: that does help me. I like that you're happier. But 1024 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:14,080 Speaker 1: do you think you're a little softer, a little softdge 1025 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, it's except for now I have 1026 00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:19,719 Speaker 1: to watch a lot more reality or a lot more 1027 00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:23,160 Speaker 1: reality shows. Yeah, that's part of the deal, that's true. 1028 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: Are you how old are you? Thought? Now? You know 1029 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,000 Speaker 1: you're at that number now? Is there a little pressure 1030 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,200 Speaker 1: to move this thing along? Uh? No, we just moved 1031 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,160 Speaker 1: in together a couple of months ago, so it's moving along. 1032 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,080 Speaker 1: Is just as in the pace it needs to move along. 1033 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:45,279 Speaker 1: She moved into the Patrick Jim No, no, God, Now, 1034 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: so you don't have the the apartment that's looking down 1035 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,720 Speaker 1: at the projects anymore. That is correct. I missed that place, 1036 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,840 Speaker 1: never was there, but already missing North Chicago, North Chicago, 1037 00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,919 Speaker 1: the project. But you brought your quote board, uh with 1038 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: you to the new to the new place, right, would 1039 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: you like me to help you add some new material 1040 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,719 Speaker 1: to your white board? Yeah, let's hear it. Uh. I 1041 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: like it when it becomes becomes more natural. But I 1042 00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: had something natural for when you told me you were 1043 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 1: dropping wake this summer. Okay, let's hear it. Let's hear it. 1044 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:21,760 Speaker 1: Are you back down to Gregg's size again? Oh? No, 1045 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: whoa Kevin Patrick? All right, your thoughts Kevin, Um, that's 1046 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:35,920 Speaker 1: going on the board though, right, we'll see, we'll see 1047 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: to the rest of the pot. So I don't know 1048 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,480 Speaker 1: what you said earlier. By the way, you can ask, uh. 1049 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,319 Speaker 1: You can ask David Eally, who runs their news desk 1050 00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:48,760 Speaker 1: here and anyone else that's on the message clients around 1051 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,040 Speaker 1: five am in the morning out here in the Pacific 1052 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: time zone, if there's it's a softer Kevin Patrick, because 1053 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,399 Speaker 1: I haven't. I haven't found any softer Kevin Patrick in there. 1054 00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: He's got some STARp elbows early in the morning, sharp teeth. Well, 1055 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:04,719 Speaker 1: we don't want you to get to SOP. I guess 1056 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: that's part of the reason I was asking those questions. 1057 00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: I like Kevi just the way he is. Kevin Patrick, 1058 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,960 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us checking in on you. Everything 1059 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: seems to be in order and uh, as always, the 1060 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: football takes come hot and heavy. NFL dot com slash 1061 00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,880 Speaker 1: patra for his rather large volume of write ups. He 1062 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,399 Speaker 1: is the number one content uh deliverer on NFL dot com. 1063 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: That is a true fact. We all play our roles. 1064 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: We all play our role. I think Connor and Kevin 1065 00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:37,240 Speaker 1: Patrick produce of the content now on NFL dot Com. 1066 00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,920 Speaker 1: I believe it. All right, Kevin Patrick coming at you, 1067 00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:46,280 Speaker 1: see you. But okay, that's it tomorrow. Uh. Colleen Wolf 1068 00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,359 Speaker 1: back again in the studio, her second show the week. 1069 00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: That's always fun. Uh, I have no idea what we're 1070 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,919 Speaker 1: gonna talk about. Running out of stuff to talk about. 1071 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,640 Speaker 1: Next week's definitely gonna be to to show week. Although 1072 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 1: it's been fun, it's a fun time. I'm happy for 1073 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick. Yeah, that's the way he loves supposed to work. 1074 00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,600 Speaker 1: She's supposed to soften your heart edge. You're looking for 1075 00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:11,120 Speaker 1: somebody soften your heart edges? Of course you need We 1076 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: we all need a compliment, don't we. Absolutely my wife 1077 00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,319 Speaker 1: maybe a better man. I'm sure Emma could did the 1078 00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: same for you. It's hard to get much better, but yeah, 1079 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: Emmaco Woman of Japan. All right, we'll be back on 1080 00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 1: the has never listened to this podcast. Uh. Colleen Wolf 1081 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:34,799 Speaker 1: of course will be with us. But until then, this 1082 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 1: is Dan Hanss signing off. Four. The Mailman, the Boss, 1083 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick coming at him, The Irishman go Irish Thursday. 1084 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: Ye I can fly, I can fly. I'm dead inside. 1085 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: I'm dead inside.