1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,480 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,519 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Are you ready 3 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: for a break? 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: Yes? 5 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 2: Absolutely? 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: Ready for a break? 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, And so much for that. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: with mbar Garcia, Brian brought us, Votch, Lombardi, and Derek Eagleton. 11 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 5: Hello, guys, welcome back to another episode of The Break 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 5: Life from s WBC Studios, and the Break is presented 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 5: by LG And I'm here today with Votch and Brian 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 5: brought us in the studio. Derek is out, but he'll 15 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 5: be back later in the week. And I thought, well, 16 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 5: first of all, how are you guys doing, actually. 17 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 4: Complaining about that? 18 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: We're doing all right, doing all right, all right? 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 5: Well, first weekend of the NFL. We finally got to 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 5: start off the season. We talked about, obviously the loss 21 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 5: of the Cowboys against the Eagles that happened Thursday night, 22 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 5: but now we got a chance to watch all of 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 5: the games play out see what the outcome was. There's 24 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 5: still one game happening tonight, which is Vikings versus Bears, 25 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 5: and we'll see how that develops and what happens there. 26 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 5: But in the meantime, I wanted to get your first 27 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 5: reaction and get a feel of how are you guys 28 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 5: feeling with currently what the NFL, how the NFL teams 29 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 5: are looking like to start off the season. 30 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 6: Well, the Lions looked terrible yesterday and they kind of 31 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 6: made me a little mad because when the Lions played 32 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 6: against you, they had these these terrible these these fantastic plays, 33 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 6: twenty plays in a row, unstoppable. You can't beat them. 34 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 3: Man. 35 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 6: They go out there versus Green Bay. Michael wasn't even 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 6: full time. Versus Green Bay, Michael was just like here 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 6: and there and you know, pass rushing thirdy downs and 38 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 6: at the end of the game, and the Lions just 39 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 6: couldn't get going. Now, I think we should all have 40 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 6: some type of, you know, fanfare for the Lions because 41 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 6: we want that Packers draft pick to be better for us, 42 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 6: and the Lions couldn't deliver. 43 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 4: So I was upset about that. 44 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 6: Besides that, the Giants look like they're going to be 45 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 6: beat up on next week when the Cowboys line up 46 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 6: against him, and you know, the Ravens and the Bills 47 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 6: put up a class, What does it for me. 48 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that to overall, though, it was kind 49 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 7: of surprised how poorly the Dolphins played. Yeah, well, I 50 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 7: mean against the Colts. And you know we've seen you know, 51 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 7: that quarterback for the Colts. We've seen him not play 52 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 7: very well for the Giants. So yeah, and I was 53 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 7: I was kind of surprised. I shouldn't say I'm surprised. 54 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 7: I was like, well, they're just not getting better. It's 55 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 7: the Giants with their offensive line, you know, with the 56 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 7: Commanders and their ability to create some pressure. Old Buddy 57 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 7: Dorn's armstrong. I think he had nine pressures in that game. 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 7: It was high for his career. So something that Vatch 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 7: and I'll bed of monitoring this week watching the Giants 60 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 7: tape and kind of figuring out, hey is Fox would 61 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 7: like to say, find the scrub. Evidently there's some scrubs 62 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 7: playing there with the Giants and across that offensive line, 63 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 7: and the Cowboys will need to take advantage of that. 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 7: But you're right about the Ravens Bills game. I think 65 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 7: that was an incredible game. Actually Pittsburgh too, and Pittsburgh 66 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 7: and the Jets, Aaron Rodgers kind of a kind of 67 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 7: a turn back the clock game for him with the 68 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 7: touchdown passes that he had had four of them, and 69 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,359 Speaker 7: you know, they got off the Steelers got off to 70 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 7: a really really nice start. So yeah, just unfortunate years 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 7: starting the season zero one to one. But there's a 72 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 7: lot of football left to be played, and. 73 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 5: We'll get to breaking down the Giants versus the Cowboys 74 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 5: starting on Wednesday this Wednesday. Yeah, but you mentioned the 75 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 5: game against the Green Bay game against Detroit. They win 76 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 5: that game twenty seven thirteen. And I know a lot 77 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 5: of people, there's a vast majority that are over this 78 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 5: whole Mic Parsons conversation. They want to they just don't 79 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 5: want to talk about it anymore, but we're gonna have to. 80 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 5: I mean, this is the first game that he plays 81 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 5: as a non Cowboys player. He went over there, he 82 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 5: had one sack, three quarterback pressures, and then forced a 83 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 5: throw that led to an interception. So and you mentioned 84 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,559 Speaker 5: he was limited in there, and there's this whole question 85 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 5: of like, Okay, has the back thing actually been an 86 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 5: issue or is this story? Was that whole story fabricated 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 5: and made up? But based on what you guys saw 88 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 5: in that game, and we know he's a very, very 89 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 5: productive player. We know that he was out during the 90 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 5: whole training camp, didn't practice at all. What are your 91 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 5: thoughts on just him and his performance versus kind of 92 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 5: what the Cowboys maybe missed in that game against the Eagles. 93 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,919 Speaker 6: Well, with Micah and not playing the whole game, you 94 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 6: really didn't get a good feel of him, you know, 95 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 6: on the rundowns and things like that. And if there's 96 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 6: any criticism of him, it'll be him versus the run. 97 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 6: The Cowboys look decent in the run in the second half, 98 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 6: but it took him a half to actually get there. 99 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 6: As far as Michaeh goes, I think it's just conditioning 100 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 6: thing and didn't do a lot in camping. You know, 101 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 6: he got traded last week, so he doesn't all the players. 102 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 6: I think the very first play he went out there, 103 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 6: he looked around and said, hey, what to do, Like 104 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 6: he was just kind of talking to everybody else, and 105 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 6: they just talked, Hey, line up there and just rush. 106 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 6: And if Michael's job is to line up there and rushing, 107 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 6: he's gonna look, he's gonna look fantastic there. One time 108 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 6: to even line them up right over the center, just hey, 109 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 6: rush right there, and that's cool. That's fantastic. Michael got 110 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 6: his got his pressures, and he was good and he 111 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 6: was cool. The Cowboys pressure wise, I saw at a 112 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 6: little graphic floating around thirty thirteen posted something. Cowboys were 113 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 6: in the high forties in terms of pressure and that 114 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 6: was second place in the whole league. I think they 115 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 6: had a lot to do with, you know, Jalen Hursts, 116 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 6: missing reads and holding the ball along right. So if 117 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 6: you're gonna go against the team that's gonna be you know, 118 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 6: pass efficient and get and get rid of the ball quickly, 119 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 6: then you would need your past rush to be a 120 00:05:58,880 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 6: little better. 121 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: But you know, it was cool. I think the Cowboys 122 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 4: pass rushed by Uzzo. 123 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 7: The Siko and me went and watched him play on 124 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 7: film this morning before we got in and and what's 125 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 7: interesting is, and Vox's right, he didn't have a lot 126 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 7: of snaps. He had seven snaps as a run defender 127 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 7: when he was on the field. That was for minus 128 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 7: two as a run defender. They only they were negative. 129 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 7: Detroit had negative yards rushing when he was on the 130 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 7: field as that and then when other times though, they 131 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 7: had eighteen rushes I think for forty eight yards, So 132 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 7: you kind of saw a little bit of some difference there. 133 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 7: You mentioned the pressures. I think they were seventeen pass 134 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 7: rush opportunities. He had three pressures in the one sack. 135 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 7: So everybody very very critical of him. And as a 136 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 7: run defender, you know, for Green Bay, at least for 137 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 7: this first week when he was on the field, those 138 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 7: seven run snaps, they were a minus two. So that's 139 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 7: a positive for them. And so it's going to be 140 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 7: kind of a you know, waiting, not a wait and see. 141 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 7: But as they incorporate him, I think we'll pay more 142 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 7: and more attention because we're all interested in that draft pick. 143 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 7: You know, where's that thing going to fall. Everybody, if 144 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 7: you're Dallas Cowboys fan, you're really not a Green Bay 145 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 7: Packer fan. You want them to have as many losses 146 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 7: as you can. But if you look at Micah Parsons 147 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 7: and the way he played, and he did play with 148 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 7: some physicality, taking on some double team blocks, set in 149 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 7: the edge a penny Sewell, one of the better right tackles. 150 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 3: In the in the league. 151 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 7: You know, there were a couple of times where they 152 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 7: hooked it up pretty good, and so you know it's 153 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 7: gonna be one of those things. Is the more that 154 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 7: he gets comfortable and confident and in his teammates, you'll 155 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 7: probably see more plays like that. 156 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 6: Brian, you think that if the Cowboys on defense, right sure? 157 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 6: Do you think that if they use a linebacker to 158 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 6: just roam around and just follow hurt it's more oftener? 159 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 2: Right? 160 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: Yeah? 161 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 4: What a back spot? 162 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 6: Do you think that if they did that more often 163 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 6: that the Cowboys would have ended with more sex in 164 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 6: the game less as there's I. 165 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 7: Think there's I think if you had somebody, if you 166 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 7: would have used them marisliaf out, especially over shown in 167 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 7: that game, I think would have made a big difference. 168 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 7: And you know, you and I we did our show 169 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 7: this morning and we were I was talking about I 170 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 7: reached out some people in the organization trying to get 171 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 7: an idea about the spy stuff. Is this something that 172 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 7: you're fundamentally against. Didn't get an answer back on that. 173 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 7: So I'm kind of curious of why, maybe you you 174 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 7: didn't feel like or the defense didn't feel like it 175 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 7: was necessary to have a Mereslia foul on the field, 176 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 7: somebody that can run Hurts down. 177 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: He's difficult. 178 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 7: We saw in space what he's able to do that way, 179 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 7: So you know, Uh, you know, it's something that the 180 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 7: Cowboys the next time, or with these quarterbacks that do 181 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 7: like to run. You know, you've got a couple of 182 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 7: them coming up here. I mean, you're gonna you're gonna 183 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 7: deal with some you know, with Arizona that that that 184 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 7: like to run, and so, uh, that's gonna be something 185 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 7: they're gonna have to clearly work on. 186 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 5: And that was kind of a similar question that I 187 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 5: wanted to ask the both of you. I know, I 188 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 5: see a lot of people trying to compare whether the 189 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 5: deal was a good one now that you've seen both 190 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 5: players play, and I'm talking about Micah Parsons and then 191 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 5: Kenny Clark and that trade that the Cowboys made, And 192 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 5: I don't think the two compare. They're just two different players, 193 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 5: two different types of player. Clearly, the run defense was 194 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 5: pretty effective last week for the Cowboys. But when we 195 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 5: talk about pressure, and I know Derek has mentioned this 196 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,120 Speaker 5: term quite a few times, the fabricated pressure, how do 197 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 5: you achieve that? What were some of the things that 198 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 5: you were able to see or not see that you 199 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 5: hope that the Cowboys are able to adjust moving forward 200 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 5: where they can start creating or fabricating those pressures. 201 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 6: Well, the first thing that you have to do is 202 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 6: get these teams away from running the football on you, 203 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 6: Like if they're constantly running the ball, and you won't 204 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 6: have an opportunity to pass rush, you know. Anyway, think 205 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 6: about the Green Bay game yesterday. They got to rush 206 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 6: the pass for a whole bunch because they was winning 207 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 6: at the end. And if you winning at the end, 208 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 6: you're gonna have opportunities like that. But if you're having 209 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 6: to deal with the run at the end of the 210 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 6: game like the Cowboys were last week, then of course 211 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 6: you're not gonna have those opportunities. Fabricating pressure like so 212 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 6: when Derek says that, what that means like like like 213 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 6: faking the pressure, like making up some some pressure. 214 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,439 Speaker 5: I wish he was here because I keep hearing him 215 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 5: say that, and I'm. 216 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 3: Like, what do I think? 217 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 5: Exactly? 218 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 3: Maybe manufacture pressureacted. 219 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 6: If if that's the case, then Trevon Diggs could have 220 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,319 Speaker 6: had a sack. Dron Bland made an attempt to get 221 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 6: a sack manufacturer. Donovan Wilson is a notorious sack guy 222 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 6: over the years or whatnot. And honestly, though, I think 223 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 6: the Cowboys can get pressure with the guys that they have. 224 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 6: It's just the running quarterback. So when you asked around 225 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 6: with your golden phone there, Brian, I would hope that 226 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 6: there's not philosophical opposition to quarterback spies because all these 227 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 6: quarterbacks run, all of them absolutely, you know, it's only 228 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 6: maybe like two or three quarterbacks that's not gonna run. 229 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 4: The Cowboys have one of them. 230 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 6: But besides that, you've even seen you know, Joe Joe 231 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 6: Burrow will run and he's not even a run guy. 232 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 6: But you just can't have Dumont Clark turned his back 233 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 6: running deep thirds. I don't, I don't. I don't think 234 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 6: that it's gonna help you. What I can give Quinn 235 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 6: credit for when he was here is he was a 236 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 6: notorious Cover three guy and he says, Okay, well I 237 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 6: have these guys, so I'm gonna run some man, We're 238 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 6: gonna do some bliss stuff and then we'll rush five. 239 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 6: Flues just can't be like, especially since Michael's going now, 240 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 6: Blues just can't be like, I'm gonna rush four, and 241 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 6: that's just what it is. 242 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: That can't be the case. 243 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 6: So I think the DC is going to watch the film, 244 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,080 Speaker 6: and I think he's gonna look himself in the mirror, 245 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 6: and I think changes are coming because it has to 246 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 6: be that way now. 247 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 7: I tell you what though, Ambar, I do, and I 248 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 7: think Voucher is absolutely right about this. But you asked 249 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 7: the question about the how you manufacture more pressure? How 250 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 7: about some better rushes, you know, and and watch and 251 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 7: I talked about again this morning on our show about 252 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 7: how about you incorporate Houston more? You know, how do 253 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 7: you figure out, you know, how to get Sam Williams 254 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 7: more involved in some things? How do you figure out 255 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 7: how to get Zeraku? You know, it was a rough 256 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 7: first game for Azerako as a rusher initially, and then 257 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 7: after the weather delay he kind of got a little 258 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 7: bit better feel for what he needed to do. But 259 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 7: in some of these games we haven't seen him have 260 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 7: the impact like he had in some of these practices 261 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 7: where he is just right on top of Dak Prescott 262 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 7: when he's throwing the ball in practice. So that you know, 263 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 7: they need to figure out some more. You know, with Fouler, 264 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 7: you know that that's a that's one that they're gonna 265 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 7: have to and but the pressures, you know, when you 266 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 7: get guys and you bring blitzes and you bring slot 267 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 7: blitzes and you bring corner blitzer and all that stuff. 268 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 7: You know, those things have got to get home and 269 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 7: they've got to finish. And they did not do a 270 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 7: good enough job of that. There could have been a 271 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 7: couple more sacks of hurts, just just tackling better in 272 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 7: the pocket. But it's going to be about it's going 273 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 7: to be about the Marshawn kneeling, you know, playing him more. 274 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 7: I think it's gonna be more about playing Houston. These 275 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 7: are guys that obviously know how to get to the quarterback. 276 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 5: And you mentioned Fowler and we talked about him when 277 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 5: he came back being over there in Washington and how 278 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 5: effective he was at getting to the quarterback. Is his 279 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 5: type of play? How does that fit into the scheme. 280 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 5: Would he be able to have to be as effective 281 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 5: as he was last year in Washington. 282 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 6: So the first edges that that were out there was 283 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 6: Sam and Fowler, right cool. I felt like Fowler didn't 284 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 6: do some of the technical run things well, not overrunning things, 285 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 6: staying at home, squeezing, thumping the puller, things like that. 286 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 6: And you know, Fowler, he always got pass rush in 287 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 6: his mind, and sometimes on these run reps he's running 288 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 6: a field, shooting a field. James Houston, strangely enough, has 289 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 6: really sound run techniques. Sam is an imposing figure. If 290 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 6: I can make a vouch for anything, Coach Coach Fluis, 291 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 6: if you're listening. 292 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 4: It's probably not. 293 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 6: Even if he is, he a't gonna listen to me, 294 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 6: no way. But Marsha Neland should get more reps because 295 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 6: Marshaw Kneeland has proven to you that he's the more 296 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 6: dominant rundown guy anyway, but he's working to be a 297 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 6: better pass rusher in general. So if you're gonna give, give, 298 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 6: give somebody reps. Give Kneeland the reps. Kneeland got the sack. 299 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 6: Now it should be half Kneeland half Clark. So that 300 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 6: were sitting around here saying, hey, y'all, remember Clark got 301 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 6: the sack on Sunday, but they gave the whole sack 302 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 6: to Kneeland. So I'll just say it in that way. 303 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,680 Speaker 6: I think leading with him more, maybe in the first 304 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 6: quarter or just maybe clear clear rundowns first down, second down, 305 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 6: let Kneeling operate first, and then when we get out 306 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 6: to the NASCAR packages, that's where you could roll Fouler out. 307 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: Brian. 308 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 6: One thing that we always mentioned if they're gonna use 309 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 6: Donvin ez Roku like Micah, I would love to see 310 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 6: Donvin ez Roku off. 311 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: Off off the line of Skap exactly. 312 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 6: Put him in a gap somewhere, let him rush over 313 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,239 Speaker 6: John Michael Smith this week that that'll be a fantastic 314 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 6: go for him. But he was just lined up over 315 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 6: Maya Lotta and just rushing from there. That's not a 316 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 6: great first matchup for you guys. You know, you want 317 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 6: to be able to find the scrub there, put him 318 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 6: over a steam or something. So I think the more 319 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 6: that Flus is gonna get a little groove, you know, 320 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 6: I think things would be better. But just right now, 321 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 6: I would just vouch to give Kneeland, you know, more 322 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 6: reps early appreciate it. 323 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 7: Well. 324 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 5: That gives hope because he gives that allows you to 325 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: know that this is not what we saw last game 326 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 5: is not necessarily what you're gonna see or continue to 327 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 5: see throughout the season. You have the players that are 328 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 5: capable of getting to the quarterback, and you're able, hopefully 329 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 5: to find the perfect balance between getting to the rushing 330 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 5: the quarterback and then also focusing on stopping dot run 331 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 5: in the run defense, let's go ahead and take our 332 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 5: first break. 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All Right, you 391 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 5: had something on Kenny tell us man An bar Garcia. 392 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 6: I was watching the film, and you know, it's just 393 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 6: a lot of social media chatter going around Kenny Clark 394 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 6: and the whole hymn versus micro conversation. I think you 395 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 6: put it really well, like they're too totally totally different guys. 396 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 6: I just want to say, Kenny Clark is fantastic man. 397 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,440 Speaker 6: He's much better than I thought. I know that you know, 398 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 6: you know, we went back to the twenty twenty four film, 399 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 6: he had to hurt toe. I went back to the 400 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 6: twenty three film. He was seven and a half sacks, tackles, followers, 401 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 6: all this kind of stuff. So you know, when we're 402 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 6: talking about past rushing and manufacturing the Russian all you 403 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 6: have to count on your B gap guys as well, 404 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 6: or your A gap guys as well. So Kenny Clark 405 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 6: rushing over the center, I'll take it, and these like 406 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 6: Landon Dickerson guys right like like like starter guys, good guys. 407 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 6: Let him rushing, go in there, and if he can 408 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 6: get seven, if Kenny Clark gives you seven sacks on 409 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 6: top of whatever your edges do. I don't think I've 410 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 6: been a Cowboy fan long enough to know that a 411 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 6: one tick was competing sack wise with the edge guys. 412 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 4: You know that would be interesting. 413 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 6: And then there's Osa right like let him be the 414 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 6: bursty up the bursty upfield guy and let him get 415 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 6: some sacks. Perry on Winfrey. We was talking about it 416 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 6: earlier Brow on our podcast. There is he going to 417 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 6: be active when his back is not hurting? I could 418 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 6: see him being a guy, maybe not as many as 419 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 6: some of these other guys. But if he gives you 420 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 6: two or three sacks in a year, I think that's 421 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 6: another win too. 422 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 4: But that's all I want to say. Get some get 423 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 4: some rush from the asteria as well. 424 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 7: I'll tell you what I really like what you're saying 425 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 7: about the defensive tackle spot. And to me, Ambarosky's question, 426 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 7: because Foch asked me this question today. 427 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 3: Is would if you could, if you, would you. 428 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 7: Change anything about the defensive tackle rotation or did you 429 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 7: like with with JT in there with you know, or 430 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 7: does Winfrey gonna have a hard time getting in there 431 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 7: Mazie any of that? Or would you change anything about 432 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 7: what you saw from the defensive tackle room, because that's 433 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 7: the one area that I kind of felt like that 434 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 7: maybe I'd let this thing riode another week. I was 435 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 7: pretty positive about that the outcome from those guys. 436 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 5: I'm with you, guys. I think I was pretty pleased 437 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 5: with what I saw, especially week one. I would be 438 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 5: willing to see something very similar coming in week two 439 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 5: and then you adjust from there, you know, you see 440 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 5: you And just kind of how Brian Schottenheimer mentioned during 441 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 5: that press conference. I brought it up the other week. 442 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 5: If you earn your spot like, earn your playtime, earn 443 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 5: your playtime, and then I'm good with that. But I'm 444 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 5: very pleased with those guys and Winfrey, what you mentioned, 445 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 5: I think your evaluation headed into week one was spot 446 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 5: on on what he was able to do. I was 447 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 5: gonna ask you guys now with the linebacker group, this 448 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 5: is an area. This is a group that leading into 449 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,719 Speaker 5: Week one of the season, it was an area of 450 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 5: concern for the Cowboys, and you look at what compared 451 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 5: to knowing that overshowing he's been hurt, he's gonna be 452 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 5: out for a good while. But in the meantime, I 453 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 5: wanted to get you guys's opinion on some of how 454 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 5: this group looked and some of what you can't expect 455 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 5: moving forward. 456 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 4: They didn't look. 457 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 6: Great in the in the first half of the game, especially, 458 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 6: they didn't look great. Some guys look lost, some guys 459 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 6: looked like they were kind of caught in the wash. 460 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 6: There were a handful of times you'll see guys like 461 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 6: standing in place and not really attacking gaps. I think 462 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 6: that they're gonna have to be much like, much more aggressive. 463 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 6: I think they're gonna have to see things a little better, 464 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 6: and that could start with bringing in lia File and 465 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 6: see if that'll change up your room a little bit. Uh, 466 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 6: you can't have two lost guys or two guys kind 467 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 6: of caught up in the wash. Clark did fine in 468 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 6: the second half of the game, and I wonder if 469 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 6: it's certain play calls that they're just not comfortable with. 470 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 6: You know, think about Murray, he didn't do very much 471 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 6: in camp at all. He didn't play any any game. 472 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 6: Samborn at least did joint practices. He at least worked 473 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 6: out a little bit, but no games for those guys. 474 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,160 Speaker 6: Sometimes you have to be in a game to see 475 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 6: all this stuff happen around you full speed while somebody 476 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 6: coming at you. It just seemed like the linebackers just 477 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 6: didn't get going as a whole. They just didn't get going. 478 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 6: Maybe a guy like lia Foul who's been practicing, doing 479 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 6: everything every day, playing all the linebackers by Sam Mike 480 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 6: will and he played in actual preseason games and he's 481 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 6: out there on the team's unit, smoking people right cause, fighting, 482 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 6: starting fights, ripping helmets off, right so you know he's 483 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 6: warmed up, lea files ready to go. 484 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 4: He fought back. 485 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 6: I would love to see him get a shot as 486 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 6: far as like, how far down the depth chart do 487 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 6: you go? Let me see one more week what adding 488 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 6: lea file looks like to the party. If it continues 489 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 6: to be bad, then maybe you have to go with 490 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 6: your Rickie Schamar James see what he looks like. But 491 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 6: just as of now, it just wasn't encouraged. And Brian, 492 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 6: it could be the fact that Jalen Hurst ran around 493 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 6: so much that just made you feel bad about your linebackers. 494 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, I felt like if he look get the three 495 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,959 Speaker 7: areas on the defense, the defensive line, the linebackers, and 496 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 7: the secondary. The linebackers by far with the poorest of 497 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,480 Speaker 7: all the group, and you know they're gonna have to 498 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 7: And I don't I don't know if this is look 499 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 7: at it another week, but I think I think Mars 500 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 7: lea Foul needs to have an opportunity here. I think 501 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 7: that you know, you talked about somebody that can run, 502 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 7: is physical, will tackling space. I feel like that that 503 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 7: needs to to show up more than say the six 504 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 7: or seven plays that he got in that defensive in 505 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 7: that defensive game for. 506 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 6: Them, Brian, Let's say that lea Foul plays more. Yeah, 507 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 6: where do you play him and how much do you 508 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 6: take away from somebody else to get him more rips. 509 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 7: I'm kind of feeling like, though he's Mike Will SAMs, Yeah, 510 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 7: I'm kind of feeling like, to me, what I would 511 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 7: do with him would be always consider having him play 512 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 7: as a will linebacker. And I say will linebacker because 513 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 7: I like the way that he's able to kind of 514 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 7: read and run. So I'd like to keep him unblocked 515 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 7: as much as I can. You play at Mike, you 516 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 7: play him at Sam, he's gonna have to be dealing 517 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,879 Speaker 7: with blockers really all day. But if you play at 518 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 7: the will linebacker spot, or you play him the opposite, 519 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 7: maybe you play him in Samborn in the in the 520 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 7: nickel and take take Murray off the field. But I 521 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 7: I would I would play him in a role where 522 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 7: he gets to potentially rush, because the guy can blitz 523 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 7: if you want to bring an extra rusher. He's a 524 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 7: guy that kind of you know, you watch me Notre Dame. 525 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 7: He had a feel for that, he had a feel 526 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 7: for attack in the pocket. So I would try and 527 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 7: and keep him, keep him as clean as possible, and 528 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 7: let him rush as much as possible as. 529 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,879 Speaker 6: Well also too, Brian, think about how you were able 530 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 6: to deal with Barkley in the in the second half, 531 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 6: after the randolay and all this. You were able to 532 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 6: deal with him even with your linebackers playing weird. So right, 533 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 6: think about how good your D line is now, yeah, 534 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 6: as as opposed to what it has been. Right, So 535 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 6: now that that gives me comfort that I can miss 536 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 6: around with different combinations of linebackers because I feel good 537 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 6: about my D line. The Great Giants start coming up, 538 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 6: that old line probably not gonna do a good job 539 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 6: blocking in a way, I think this week is a 540 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 6: fantastic time. 541 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: To just try some stuff. 542 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 5: Out since you bring that, uh, the way they came 543 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 5: back in after the rain delay stuff. In the defense specifically, 544 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 5: did did you guys see any kind of improvement or 545 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 5: change in the run fit scheme? 546 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,159 Speaker 7: They played a lot better. They took that hour and 547 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 7: they probably went to each individual player and said, listen, 548 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 7: you guys played hero ball. They're going to beat us 549 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 7: here in the second half. You know, you need to 550 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 7: find a way to play assignments. You know, if I 551 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 7: called you know, displitz, make sure we everybody handle it. 552 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 7: If I call this front, make sure everybody handled it. 553 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 7: Nobody trying and do anything more than what your responsibilities are. 554 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 7: And I felt like as a unit they played much 555 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 7: better with the fits as Fox said, just physical, read 556 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 7: and and they played on the they played on the 557 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,959 Speaker 7: eagle side of the line of scrimmage. That's why I'm interested, 558 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 7: like in a guy like potentially uh perryon Winfrey with 559 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 7: you know, taking maybe JT's spot. I'm thinking about when 560 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 7: they when they were playing on the other side of 561 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage, it was disrupting the Philadelphia blocking 562 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 7: scheme and disrupting the run game. So if you get 563 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 7: guys that are going to penetrate and play that way, 564 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 7: then I think that's that's the best happening. I think 565 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 7: Winfrey is that type of guy. Winfrey Osa uh you know. 566 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 7: And then and then also too with with uh all 567 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 7: our guys there, I mean I think that with Clark, 568 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,359 Speaker 7: that group, Thomas, all that group, I think that's the 569 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 7: all those guys could play on the other side of 570 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 7: the line of scrimmage and be disruptive that way. 571 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 6: Now, Brown, about the wing Son met you. We didn't 572 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 6: talk about this, we didn't rehearse it, but you watched 573 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 6: the film and I trust you. Yeah, you saw when 574 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 6: Donovan Wilson walk walk down a little bit that also 575 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 6: don Helison Mark and Mark Mark Marque's bell. Do you 576 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 6: see a world will never play as much diame as 577 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 6: we did we Quinn or whatnot? Brow, But do you 578 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 6: think that there's a world a where if your linebackers 579 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 6: are a little weird, that your safeties can can kind 580 00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 6: of help in that way? 581 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,159 Speaker 7: I think you're I think it's something an option that 582 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 7: I would definitely have to consider. I would consider them 583 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 7: playing weird and then try and kind of figure that 584 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 7: out first, and if they continue to be weird, then 585 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 7: I'm on the phone trying to find somebody that can 586 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 7: play the position. And then the next thing would be 587 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 7: then to work on getting the safeties more involved. 588 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 6: One more How long until you see Buddy involved? Buddy'shnon involved? 589 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,480 Speaker 7: I think Buddy's kind of my special teams guy, you know, 590 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,679 Speaker 7: And I don't know. I mean, I watched him in 591 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 7: some of the stuff during pre season, and I feel 592 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 7: like that he's got a nose for the ball, But 593 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 7: I don't know if I would trust him. I would 594 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 7: go with James before I would go with Buddy in 595 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 7: this If you had to had one of your special 596 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 7: teams guys become a guy that's involved with the everyday scheme. 597 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 5: Well, we'll see once they start practicing out here. But 598 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: with Winfrey, I know, since that's a guy that you 599 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 5: keep talking about. Brian, when is he expected to come back. 600 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 7: Well, he had the backspasms and it hit him last 601 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 7: week and then he just could not act. And hopefully 602 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 7: those have subsided and you know, maybe gone away. That 603 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 7: way he can go out and practice. Because I didn't 604 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 7: do anything last not at all, not at all, and 605 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 7: so that was just a week where you know he 606 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 7: was going to be an active guy. But there were 607 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 7: people in the building telling me that, hey, Brian, he 608 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 7: might be an inactive guy anyway. And I was sitting 609 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 7: there thinking, oh, please don't tell me that he's an 610 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 7: active because Mozzie Smith's active. 611 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 4: I don't believe it. 612 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, And so I think I think that they 613 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,959 Speaker 7: to me just continue to make as you said, Ambar, 614 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 7: make Mozzie continue to work, you know, make him continue 615 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 7: to work, to try and to be an active guy, 616 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 7: and if he's ready, they'll play him. 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And just a reminder on the stats. Javonta 682 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 5: Williams he got fifteen rushes for fifty four yards and 683 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 5: two touchdowns miles for Russias fifty three yards. He had 684 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 5: that long one which was forty nine, and then that 685 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 5: fumble that was very hurtful for the Cowboys. Before we 686 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 5: get into Jayden Blue, based on what you saw from 687 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 5: the running back group, how do you assess what they 688 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 5: were able to do? 689 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 6: I think this this line is going to make it 690 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 6: easy for everybody. Now, Javante pairs with them well because 691 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 6: he's patient and he's physical. So the more Tylers was 692 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 6: pound on you, like he gets to come behind you 693 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 6: and then pound. 694 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 4: There was just there was this one. There was this 695 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 4: one play. Damn there was this one boy. 696 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 6: Ah ooh, that was just one play that Davonte Williams. Boy, 697 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 6: he just got up there. He dragged. Damn boy, he 698 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 6: just he dragged everybody after they called him or whatever. 699 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 6: He dragged. He dragged the dishb ten yards that you know. 700 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 6: Javonte just runs hard and I think that's uh that 701 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 6: pair as well with this line. However, when you do 702 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 6: have the opportunities to kind of break one in the 703 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 6: open field there, I think you would want your running 704 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 6: back to not get caught from behind. So, if anything, 705 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 6: Williams gained a lot of a lot of trust for me, 706 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 6: and I would love to see him get more opportunities. 707 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 6: I know the game is gonna dictate a lot. So like, 708 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 6: if you got CD with some corner that shouldn't be 709 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 6: lined up against him, then throw the ball to CD. 710 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 6: Get him with thirteen targets. That's fine, cool, But most 711 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 6: of these games, especially for some of these other teams 712 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 6: that can't deal with your old line, run the ball 713 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 6: right at them and see what happens. 714 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think there's a couple of things we need 715 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 7: to kind of figure out here. Is that the Blue 716 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 7: the Golden Phone is Fox likes to call it. Told 717 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 7: me that they did this because of some special teams 718 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 7: reasons to get flooring away on the on the field. 719 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 7: They felt like that Florinoay was a better special teamer 720 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 7: in the summer. Blue had a couple of tackles in 721 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 7: games when he was a cover guy. But that's kind 722 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 7: of where that was. I think that you also need 723 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 7: to ask yourself in this game, was or get up 724 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 7: to the week of the game, are we in a 725 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 7: situation where maybe they felt more comfortable that Blue didn't 726 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 7: have all the assignments down and you know, and watching 727 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 7: again talked about it this morning, was that his health 728 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 7: and he you know, missed time then got nicked up again. 729 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 7: You know, is he missing practice time and all that. 730 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,800 Speaker 7: This is just me thinking out loud, folks, Please don't 731 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 7: tag Blue in this and say, oh, you're a dumb 732 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 7: guy and all that. That's not the case at all. 733 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 7: But I wonder if there were things that they were 734 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 7: worried about, maybe some mispractice time that they they that 735 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,760 Speaker 7: he wasn't gonna be able to carry from the field 736 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 7: to the game, and they were a little bit worried 737 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 7: about that in week one. This is a group that 738 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 7: I would kind of say, I'm going to let this 739 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 7: ride another week with what they have and see if that, 740 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 7: you know, see if in fact, you know Blue, maybe 741 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 7: he'll work his way in eventually. But I kind of 742 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 7: feel like I'm going to give this this running back 743 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 7: room one more week of kind of seeing how it's at, 744 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 7: see what you got with Sanders. 745 00:34:59,160 --> 00:34:59,879 Speaker 3: A little bit more. 746 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 7: Then if you have to, then you know, gets the 747 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 7: Bears the falling week if you don't feel like it's 748 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 7: good enough. I would give Williams actually more touches myself 749 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 7: if it was me, and I think maybe four or 750 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 7: five more touches running the football. I think would help 751 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 7: Dak a lot. 752 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 5: Uh. 753 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 7: You know, I think Dak played very, very very well, 754 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 7: as we all saw, but also in a situation where 755 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 7: I feel like they could have ran the ball a 756 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 7: little bit better too, you know, maybe with more of 757 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 7: some Williams. So I'm gonna let this thing for one 758 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 7: more week, probably ride and see where we're at, and 759 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 7: if it needs to be switched to the following week 760 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 7: against the Bears, that I'm more open to doing that. 761 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 5: That's interesting that you say that, because I see a 762 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 5: lot of people eager to see Jaden Blue and the 763 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 5: fumble after one. Yes, they're willing to take Sanders out 764 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 5: and replace him with Blue. Looking at who you got 765 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 5: up next, the New York Giants. I mean, is this 766 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 5: a week that maybe it's a perfect week for a 767 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 5: guy like Jayden Blue to get into it? Well, get 768 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 5: out there and get some playtime. 769 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 7: What about this though, Watching and help me with this. 770 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 7: The edges for this team, we feel like are pretty good. 771 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:02,399 Speaker 3: Right. 772 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 7: The defensive tackles are hard to block. I mean that's 773 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 7: a hard group. I mean, I know the Commanders had 774 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 7: some success running the football, you know a little bit 775 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 7: against these guys, But I'm just gonna I'm just gonna 776 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 7: think about it this way, is if it turns into 777 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 7: where you're having to throw the football, are you the 778 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 7: most comfortable with him as the blitz pickup guy? Are 779 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 7: you the most comfortable with him helping on these edges? 780 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 7: You know that to me, the Eagles were not a big, 781 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,880 Speaker 7: big blitz team, you know, so maybe it was a 782 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 7: little bit better for him to probably play, but they 783 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 7: started blitzing later, you know, without really kind of seeing 784 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 7: the Giants. You know, we'll see him on tape. I 785 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 7: just wonder if it's about the pressure. If it's about pressure, 786 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 7: can Blue help you in that regard? You know, that 787 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 7: might be their worry. As far as the as the 788 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 7: second back goes in this game, pass. 789 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,919 Speaker 6: Pro would be the only reason that I would be. 790 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 6: I wouldn't even say, you know, Bears, but just kind 791 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 6: of like shy on yeah on Blue, because Williams does 792 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 6: it really well, right. I'm just thinking about the Blue, 793 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 6: about Blue in its upside. Blue doesn't get caught from behind, right, 794 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 6: So I want to just get him involved because I 795 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 6: know what he or at least I have a feel 796 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,920 Speaker 6: about what he can be. Right now, as far as 797 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 6: running the ball against Dexon, Lawrence and all those guys. 798 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 6: Brian the Cowboys have actually kind of shown you even 799 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 6: over the years when like be Idish and you know, 800 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 6: hoffmanconor govern they'll still kind of run the ball in right, 801 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 6: you know. And and you made a great point last week, 802 00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 6: you know, Jalen Carter or not, Jordan Davis or not, 803 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 6: we're built powerfully. 804 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 3: And we're built better to handle that. 805 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, right, So you know, whether it be Dexon, Lawrence 806 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 6: or my man's with three names, Roy Johnson, Jenkins, I 807 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 6: don't know, but I feel great about Bookers and BB 808 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 6: in that middle. 809 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 4: I feel good. 810 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,400 Speaker 6: About TG out there versus those edges because Brian Burns 811 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 6: is a great pass russ, but he's not the biggest 812 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 6: guy in the world. TG's still what three twenty or 813 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,320 Speaker 6: something for a left tackle and he and he's shown 814 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 6: some some some really good things in the run game. 815 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 6: I wouldn't be afraid to run the ball versus Giants, 816 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 6: and I think versus them, you you can be balanced. 817 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 6: And we'll talk about it later this week, but you 818 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 6: could throw the ball and run. But I wouldn't go 819 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 6: away from the run just because just because Lawrence is 820 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 6: in there. You got bb Book and Big Tyler in there, 821 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 6: so it's. 822 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,760 Speaker 5: Cool, well, knock on wood on all the kinds of wood. 823 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,959 Speaker 5: I mean, the Cowboys, based on the history, they tend 824 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 5: to compete very well and very good against the Giants. 825 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 5: So that's the only reason why I'm saying, like, I 826 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,439 Speaker 5: would love to see Jaden Blue get a shot out 827 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 5: of this week to get him into the mix. Also, 828 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 5: we talk a lot about the differences in their abilities. 829 00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 5: Jaden Blue he brings something completely different versus what you 830 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 5: got in between Williams and Sanders that they're kind of 831 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 5: more similar on that boat. 832 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 6: That's why we're advocating for Blue. Like it's not like 833 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 6: a please Lord anybody that Sanders. Yeah, it's just that 834 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 6: we know Blue is not getting caught by Zach Bond. 835 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:01,879 Speaker 4: We just know that. 836 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 6: So in the event that Blue does break off a 837 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 6: big run is more than likely six. So it's just 838 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 6: offensive upside at this point. And then you add him 839 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 6: to the passing game, does it help your your wide 840 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 6: receivers even more? 841 00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 3: Right? 842 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,480 Speaker 6: So it's just it's just those things. And I think 843 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 6: Cowboy fans just don't want to leave food on the table. 844 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 6: They just want to try everything. 845 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 4: They just want. 846 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 6: They want to be as as best as possible. And 847 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 6: we all know that Blue can make big plays allegedly 848 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 6: because he had done chet. 849 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,000 Speaker 4: But we just want to see what that looks like. 850 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 7: Wait till Amber, Wait till you talk about food on 851 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 7: the table. Wait till she tells he wants Nate Thomas 852 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 7: to play right tackle. 853 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 6: Well, I ain't say that, per se, but it is 854 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 6: something that the Cowboys can look at if right tackle 855 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 6: continues to be an issue versus Kavon Thibeau and abdual Card. 856 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 5: But we'll see whatever. When are you wanting to see 857 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:49,120 Speaker 5: that happen? 858 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 6: Well, we were talking about offensive line this morning on 859 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 6: the Doing All Right podcast. We were talking about offensive line. 860 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 6: I was like, man, boy, four out of five of us, 861 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 6: I say us, because I'm played really well, you know. 862 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 6: So I was like, how much more from Terrence Steele? 863 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:04,160 Speaker 5: Uh? 864 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 6: Do you have to see before you just start changing 865 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 6: things up at right tackle? So it wasn't Nate Thomas 866 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 6: at particular. Your said Nate Thomas, I said, do you 867 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 6: want to see change at all? 868 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 7: A dentity you wanted to see? I was thinking you, 869 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 7: you're the one that convinced me to play. You're like, hey, 870 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 7: playing Nate Thomas at left tackle so over Awesome Richards 871 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,279 Speaker 7: is a good move because of the power he plays with. 872 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,480 Speaker 3: If this guy might be a natural right. 873 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 5: Tackle, So you're on the same boat. 874 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 3: I'm to the point. 875 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,800 Speaker 4: When it's his idea, he just putting me on the spab. 876 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 7: I just I just want to drag somebody into the fight, 877 00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 7: is what I wanted to do. Amber What do you 878 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 7: think Nate Thomas right tackle, more power. 879 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 5: I like Nate. I like Nate. I love the guy. 880 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,360 Speaker 7: Actually I like Steel too, by the way, And I 881 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,440 Speaker 7: know it's foolish talk, but if you're talking about if 882 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,040 Speaker 7: you're talking about kind of moving guys around. 883 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 5: I'm not ready to do that though. 884 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,799 Speaker 3: Okay, good, not yet. 885 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,959 Speaker 5: No, Yeah, let me see, let me see another week 886 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,720 Speaker 5: and then we'll talk about it again. I think still 887 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,360 Speaker 5: he's an interesting one because you've seen him play really, 888 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 5: really well, and then you've seen him struggle in the past, 889 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 5: and you talk about the times where he was injured 890 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 5: and now he's back to being full healthy and all 891 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 5: of that. So is it capable of getting back to 892 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,839 Speaker 5: that level that we once saw. I feel like it's 893 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 5: on It was only one year where we saw him 894 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 5: be really really good or solid. I would say it 895 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 5: wasn't somebody that was giving you issues there. But am 896 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 5: I at the point of like this week, I'm sitting 897 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 5: down taking him out. No, I'm clearly by your smile 898 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 5: and your faces, you guys are terring at that point. 899 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:39,359 Speaker 3: I don't know. 900 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 7: Man to me, if you're gonna if you're gonna run 901 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 7: the ball with Williams, yeah, I'll take some I'll take 902 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 7: some power up there. So you're saying that if you 903 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 7: got you got him and Booker. Thomas and Booker on 904 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:53,280 Speaker 7: the same side. 905 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 6: So you're saying terror Steel climb into the damn free 906 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 6: Safety did nothing. 907 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 3: So hey, how about this? How about this Terror yet? No? No, 908 00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 3: he did. 909 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 7: Fine, that's how about Terrence Steel extra big blocker lineman. 910 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 4: Move guy, that'd be fun. 911 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 7: But I think that's what now You're now you're okay 912 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 7: with me? 913 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:11,520 Speaker 3: Huh? 914 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,240 Speaker 4: Terror Steel has called passes in the past. 915 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 7: I'm just saying, I'm just saying, put an eighty number 916 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 7: on and we might be okay. 917 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,280 Speaker 6: I think at the end of the day, Brian brought 918 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 6: us uh n Nate Nate Thomas and his and his 919 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 6: power is intriguing and this is offensive line that's that's 920 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,879 Speaker 6: built on power, that's built on moving bodies, and that's 921 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 6: exactly what they did, Brian, They moved by. 922 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 3: I feel like it's the future. Maybe. 923 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,279 Speaker 5: Okay, okay, this this is what you guys think and 924 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:45,959 Speaker 5: would want to see. But let's think about because we've 925 00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:49,720 Speaker 5: here's the difference. I think that this coaching staff brings 926 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 5: is based on everything that I've heard, and I again, 927 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,759 Speaker 5: we're starting off the season, but I feel like they're 928 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 5: not afraid to make the changes needed or make the 929 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 5: switches or whatever. So do you guys. 930 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 3: You I'll play this week? 931 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 4: Damn? 932 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 12: Yeah? 933 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 4: I think. 934 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,839 Speaker 3: I mean, you're you're, you're, you're kind of cheering for him, 935 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,279 Speaker 3: and I don't know if they'll do it. 936 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:15,320 Speaker 7: I don't know if that it's fun to talk about, 937 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 7: you know, from you know, from you know, up in 938 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 7: the clouds, up from the press box, talk about all this, 939 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 7: but well they really really really do it. And I 940 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 7: I like what you're thinking. I like you're trying to 941 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 7: will it, But I don't know if they'll make all 942 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,479 Speaker 7: the changes that we just talked about. 943 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 4: We won't see Nate to next year on lists, so 944 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,440 Speaker 4: have Yeah, I think so too. 945 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 5: I think one week one game, man is too little. 946 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,200 Speaker 3: But we're doing That's why we're doing. I like it. 947 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,240 Speaker 5: I like it. But I'm here to see again talking 948 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 5: about that and those changes, I mean you're to see. 949 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 3: I would see the defensive changes. 950 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 7: I would rather see the defensive changes that way, terrence 951 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,880 Speaker 7: is not killing you. 952 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,040 Speaker 3: No, I'd rather see the linebackers. Yeah. 953 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, well we're about to end the show right now. 954 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 5: It's almost Yeah, it's it's time. We didn't get to 955 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,959 Speaker 5: really talk a whole lot about the cornerbacks. I wanted 956 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 5: to talk about. 957 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:13,879 Speaker 4: Fantastic for sure. 958 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 6: I question is is the more des gets healthy. 959 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 7: Digs start digs and you start blanding and play the nickel. 960 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 7: Bring bring our guy off the. 961 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:29,120 Speaker 5: Off the bench, start working on those turnovers. They practice 962 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 5: on that all training him trying to knock those balls out. 963 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 5: So I'm hoping we get to see that translate onto 964 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:40,840 Speaker 5: actual game days. With that, we end the show forty 965 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 5: five forty five All right for Vouch Lombardy, Brian Brads, 966 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 5: I remember your sea. 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