1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Wind down and I have heard radio podcast. So I've 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: had to get a nasal swab up my nose for 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: the past multiple times. You've yet to get one. Asymptomatic, Yes, 4 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: you are. Ignorance is bliss. No, but it's it's it's 5 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: actually not as bad as I thought it would be. Really, 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: it sounds terrible. So the first time I got it, 7 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: I had total anxiety, and my girlfriend Linda went um 8 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,639 Speaker 1: with me and I was like, I'm in a few 9 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: I can't reade. Oh my god, I have anxiety. And 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: she and I was kept saying it's does it hurt? 11 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: Does it hurt? You know me, whenever I ask healthcare professional, 12 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: I'm always like, is it going to hurt? Am I 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: going to die? That too? And so when I went 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: up to the window and first of all, these guys 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: are like, it's the National Guard doing the test at 16 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: this one place. Yeah, And so I was just like 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: super intimidated. I'm like, oh, he's not gonna take it easy. 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: I mean he's shoving that thing all the way up 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: to my brain. And so it it just feels like 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: imagine a small toothpick or not tooth pick, a small 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Q tip going all the way up. You feel it 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: here and it goes all the way behind your nose, 23 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: like up into your brain. It doesn't feel great, but 24 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It doesn't. Did I tear up in my 25 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 1: my right eye teared up? So okay, So anyways, yeah, 26 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: but the first time it was just weird. But now 27 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: I know it's like, okay, all the casts in the career, 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 1: we're just kind of like, all right, put it in 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: my nose. But so far, so good. We're all negative 30 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: shooting Kim commence, shooting Kim commence, and it's super fun 31 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: and it's super Christmas ee, and I'm just really excited 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: for everyone to see this because this is my favorite 33 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: film Christmas film I've ever done. It's your favorite script, 34 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: favorite script, hands down. I love it like I love it. 35 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: I love it, I love it. I love it. It's 36 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: so good. Gonna steer back for a second, because what 37 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: you're saying about, you know, before we got the Swabs 38 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: and Mike Knights, Welcome to Evenings with Mike and Jana. 39 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: In the morning, we're winding down. Tonight, we're winding up. 40 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, my boy, I don't 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: know what's going on with my voice right now. But anyways, 42 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: it's funny that you're talking about, you know, the worst 43 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: case scenario, like am I gonna die from? You know? 44 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: You just your head goes to that place. It reminds 45 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: me of our our friend and neighbor who is over 46 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: the other day talking about their neighbors dogs barking, and 47 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: where her head goes, And you guys are so similar 48 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: where it's like she heard heard the neighbors dog barking 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: at like three in the morning, and they had told 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: her that this quote unquote kid from church is staying 51 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: at their house for the week or something like that, 52 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: and she hears the dog's barking. Her mind literally goes 53 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 1: from everything's fine too, this random kid from church killed them. 54 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: The doctor barking because they see their owners on the 55 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: ground dead, and I gotta go over there and figure 56 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: out what's going on, figure out what's going on. I 57 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: was like, you and Janna are exactly like my mind 58 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: is like a movie. I mean I think like a movie. 59 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: Even when, like when you were going on your bachelor weekend, 60 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: every noise I heard in the house, I was like, 61 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: this is my last day. Someone just broken. I love 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: that about you that, like the time that you almost 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: shot the roomba. That was great. That was really funny. Easton. 64 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: You can't just be back on here and not be 65 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: on here. Hi, all of our listeners, welcome back Easton Allen. 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: He's back. We've missed you. I missed you guys so much, 67 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: so much. This has been painful, very painful for me. 68 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: You gotta keep your face up because we need you to. 69 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: We need to talk to you. Um. So Eastern you 70 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 1: put a year, um, you put a year thing up 71 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: on Instagram from when you came up on the House 72 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: of Blues stage and yeah, year ago. Crazy. And so 73 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,119 Speaker 1: my neighbors Okay, so this little neighbor boy in her neighborhood, Peter, 74 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: he's super cute, and so, you know, some people know 75 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: I'm a singer, some people just think I'm just I 76 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:21,040 Speaker 1: don't even know, just miss Janna. And so Peter, she's 77 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: my my neighbor. Molly. We were running and she's like, yeah, 78 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Peter just thinks you're a rock star. 79 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, why why And she's like, well, 80 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:33,679 Speaker 1: he always hears you sing in the driveway and always 81 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: says like Miss Janna has a good voice, and so 82 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: but then you posted that thing about you being at 83 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: the House of Blues and Anaheim and your band, your 84 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: other band guy was singing with you on stage, and 85 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Easton, Yeah yeah, and she's like, 86 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: so do you sing heavy metal? I remember that part 87 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: You're like it was just so funny. But yeah, Peter 88 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: thinks I'm a rock star and that you're a part 89 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: of the band Easton. So that's all I've ever wanted. Really, 90 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: you achieved my dream. Yeah, that's speaking of rock stars. 91 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: We're gonna have Lindsay l I'm She's our girl. It's 92 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun to talk to her. Yeah. No, 93 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: she's um, she's the best. And I'm excited about her 94 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: album too because she goes through all the stages of grieving, 95 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: which I think is really cool, very creative. Yeah, so, um, 96 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: super ap pumped to have her on. But Easton, how 97 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: are you doing with um all of this COVID stuff 98 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: And oh my gosh, the earthquake in l A. I 99 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: slept through that. I slept right through it. Uh you did? 100 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: Did I did? I woke up and I felt very well, arrested. 101 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: I felt great, and I look out on Twitter and 102 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: I was like, oh man, something happened. Yeah, alright, yeah 103 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: our house. Um, we we got our house retrofitted, um 104 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: some years back, and so it doesn't really move in earthquakes. 105 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: It's great. Um, so that was fine. But yeah, the 106 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: quarantine has been been okay. Um, I've been my My 107 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 1: schedule hasn't really changed because I've been going to Ryan 108 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: seacrest house every day, so like I have a commute 109 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: like I used to, and I see co workers. I 110 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: see one coworker and it's Ryan Seacrest. Um. But that's 111 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: been that's been very cool. I've been helping out doing 112 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: his TV show, UM Live is Colleen Ryan from his 113 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: home every day and you know, I'm staying six ft 114 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 1: away from him, and I wear a mask and stuff 115 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: like that. But um, it's uh, you know, and my 116 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: wife has been home this whole time. We've be getting 117 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff done around the house. That's been 118 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: really great. And uh, looking forward getting back to Disneyland, 119 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: but I don't know when that's going to be. Speaking 120 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 1: of Ryan Seacrest, and I know you really can't say 121 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: much about Ryan, but so all those allegations about Ellen 122 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: DeGeneres are coming up and about how she's just like 123 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: the worst. Remember I told you stories that I've heard 124 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: about her, and it's so shocking because when you see 125 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: her on TV, you're like, you know, she's so generous, 126 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,599 Speaker 1: she's so caring, she loves love, and she loves people. 127 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: But I have heard these things in Hollywood, like I've 128 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: heard people. Actually, one of my old reps that I 129 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: worked with, like a million years ago, ahead I always 130 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: told I was like, I want to go on the 131 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: Ellen Show, and she was just like, no, you do not, 132 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: And I was just like, wait, what, Like That's why 133 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 1: I'm working so hard because I want to get on 134 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: that show, Like I want us to go on the 135 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: book tour there, you know, or at least a zoom, 136 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: Like I'm always trying. But I've heard all these things 137 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: about her, and I kind of live on the like 138 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: where there's smoke, there's fire, and so now all these 139 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: allegations have come out about her, and I'm curious, like, 140 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: you know, do you believe in the rumors, because I 141 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: feel like you don't really hear that kind of stuff 142 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: about Ryan, Like Ryan has always been like such a 143 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: cool dude. But at the same time, I will say 144 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: this though, how people say about Ellen, like she's running 145 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: a business like she's direct even how people would say 146 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: to me, like, I'm maybe not the friendliest in a 147 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: working environment, but I'm friendly off air. But when it 148 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: comes to work, like I work, does that like like 149 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: what it were? Are you on that east end? You 150 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: know the thing? Um? And I don't, you know, I've 151 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: never I've never met Ellen or anything. I've heard the 152 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: stories too. And the thing I always wonder is like, yeah, 153 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: being direct versus being like mean or like you know, 154 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: abusive maybe uh. And I always wonder what's going on 155 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: without because you know, you hear those stories about Ellen 156 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: all the time. So I always wonder like is she 157 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 1: just a direct person or is she like actively mean 158 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: to her staff? Um, everyone who works there is afraid though. 159 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: That's something that I've learned from people is like at 160 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: the very least, they're afraid. And that sucks, um because 161 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 1: with Ryan, like like I mean, we all feel like 162 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: we're his friends, you know, I don't I don't know 163 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: if he actually thinks that way, but I feel like 164 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: it is. So that's but I feel like that's the 165 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: way to do. Like, you know, there are times when 166 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: because you respect him, you know, you think that he's 167 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: your friend and vice versa. He makes you feel like 168 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: a friend. But to be like straight out scared because 169 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: I heard the same thing, like staffs that were so 170 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 1: scared of her, and but who knows, Like maybe is 171 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: that how she portrays or is that just how our 172 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: producers are doing and she's not involved as much because 173 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: I know I had a tour manager one time that 174 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: was so mean. So then people that automatically think I'm mean, 175 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: but I'm like nobody, and we had to fire him 176 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: because I was like, I can't have people thinking that 177 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: I want this kind of treatment or that you can 178 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: treat other people like this, because it's not okay because 179 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: when that comes off on me, So it's like, I 180 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: wonder how involved she really is. But yeah, no, that's 181 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: that's a really great point because it could just be 182 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: the producers. That's just how they produce, and so they 183 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: want everything to be so you know, tighten it that 184 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 1: it's a trickle down effect. But Ellen could be the 185 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: nicest person in the world with the the producers. But the 186 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: producers are like, all right, look, mother, you know, get 187 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: this done. And because it's the it's they're producing the show, 188 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: so it's their product. Essentially two along with the with Ellen. 189 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 1: But what so let me ask everyone real quick, what 190 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: are all these stories now? Like is it just new 191 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: stuff or why now? Or things coming out? There's more 192 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: coming out Eastern do you know? I was thinking about 193 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: that because she just put out this, like, you know, 194 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, she put out this like 195 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,679 Speaker 1: public apology to her staff. Um and uh, she was like, 196 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, I I didn't I don't want my show 197 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: to have this culture and it was people that we're 198 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: working for me, that we're not doing things the way 199 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: I wanted. And I was wondering the same thing, like 200 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: like what's happening now, because I mean I've been I've 201 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: been hearing this for like ten years, you know, like 202 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: about about her show. Um so, actually I need to 203 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 1: look this up myself because I don't know if there's 204 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: like a lawsuit pending or something like that. But well, 205 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: there's been a bunch of people saying that, like you 206 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,319 Speaker 1: know that like don't look at me. She like, you 207 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: don't look at her, you don't talk to her. And 208 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: then there was another guess that was on the show. 209 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: She was a YouTuber I believe that said, you know, 210 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: she was just like awful, and I've heard that before 211 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: from other people, but then I hear the flip side, 212 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: like Joshua Raydon, who's saying it, you know, the wedding 213 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: with her wife said she's amazing. So it's just I 214 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: don't know, but it is interesting, especially like the Leah 215 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Michelle stuff too, because I had met her before. I had, 216 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, a friend that was working on that show, 217 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: and she wasn't nice. And sometimes you're like, it's sad 218 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: because I feel like that she's grown. So that's just 219 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:16,719 Speaker 1: like such a situation because I'm like, I feel like 220 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: people should apologize for their behavior, and I'm sure there's 221 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: times when I haven't been the loveliest person in the 222 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: whole entire world. But when there's so many people coming 223 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: out about like how you weren't nice, that sucks um 224 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: And hopefully, like with Leah's case, you know, she's older 225 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: now and that that show at the time she was. 226 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: I know, we're kind of like going off base, but 227 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: I do believe that people evolve. Like my twenty year 228 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: old self, oh my god, I I'll apologize to every 229 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: man woman person I've ever met, because I'm sure I 230 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: was just a loose Cannon with just like, I mean, 231 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: I was always nice to people, but do you know 232 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like you could have bad days or 233 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: be frustrated with our relationship or whatever, and you think 234 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 1: back now and you go, oh, man, like how I 235 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: would do things so differently as a mom and as 236 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: a wife and as a you know, here's the thing. 237 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 1: Two things. The first is kind of like you're saying, 238 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,439 Speaker 1: where they're smoked, there's fire, So if it's been going 239 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: on for this long short there's probably some truth to it. 240 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: But in terms of like nowadays, the way society is 241 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: and everyone being so damn sensitive, you know, and everyone 242 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: having a platform essentially with social media to express their 243 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 1: opinion and it to reach a lot of people. You know, 244 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: she could, like you're saying, have a bad day, or 245 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: someone could do bad at their job and she rightfully 246 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: gets piste or somebody rightfully gets piste, and then all 247 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden that person tweets out or says something 248 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: and starts spreading the word that you know, Ellen's a 249 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: bit Ellen's, you know, because they just can't take it 250 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 1: that they did something wrong on their job. And the 251 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: other thing is to your point, to think about this Okay. 252 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: The ones show I can think of is like when 253 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: we were on Celebrity Family Family Feud, right, Steve Harvey 254 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: recorded like six episodes that day, so and he was 255 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: so nice. He was so nice to us, to anyone 256 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: that I witnessed him. He was so nice. But part 257 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: of it is robotic and routine because he's doing six 258 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: episodes like a day, like five days a week. Ellen 259 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: is probably doing you know, same thing, probably three to 260 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: five episodes a day, however, many days a week. So 261 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: think about all those people that are coming through on 262 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: a regular basis. She's just showing up for a job, 263 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: doing her job. She doesn't have the time and energy 264 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: to be that personal that on with everybody when the 265 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 1: camera's not on, She's got to save herself, you know, 266 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: when anybody about saving yourself, or when the camera's on, 267 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you gotta save yourself, or 268 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: when your show when it showtime, you gotta save yourself, 269 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 1: or when you're rolling, you gotta save yourself to an extent. 270 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: So it's like if Steve Harvey's sat there and did 271 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: six episodes and was became best friends with everyone on 272 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: that episode, he wouldn't be able to do with that 273 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: many episodes in a day, so it's like if she's 274 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: not talking to people, she's not look she don't want 275 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: to be distracted. Like some of these people need to 276 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: be given a break. If people are too sensitive around it, 277 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: I think the problem too. And I don't know East 278 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: and if you've dealt this with like Ryan, but like 279 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: where I feel like in that situation Mike where you're 280 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: talking because I'm overly nice at times when I'm not working, 281 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: then when I do get direct when i am working, 282 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 1: it's construed as being bitchy. And I'm like, no, no, 283 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: like I'm just like I'm when I'm at work and 284 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: I show up at work, I'm just like I'm I 285 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: will chat your ear off in the makeup room and 286 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: I will be like, oh yeah, girl. And then when 287 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm on set, like I'm nice to everybody, but like 288 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm also like very like I want to get my 289 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: job done. I want to get it done, I want 290 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: to go home, put my kids to bed, and like 291 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: it's it's work. And sometimes if I'm more direct than 292 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: it's looked at as bitchy, which I don't think is fair, 293 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: but because they just see like, oh, where's the bubbly Jana. 294 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: Just because I'm not bubbly, well that doesn't mean I'm 295 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: I just I want to like work. So it's like, 296 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: how is that? That's that's one of those things. It's 297 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: you can't control everyone's perception of you, right like none 298 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: of us can. People are gonna have their opinions there. 299 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: We all have enemy somewhere and we want to They 300 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: might call us on one bad day and that's their 301 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: only experience of us. So to your point, that's such 302 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: a strength that you have, but it also you You 303 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: do such a good job at being so nice to 304 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: people where everyone thinks they're your best friend, and then 305 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: when there's some kind of conflict or you need to 306 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: get on them, whether it's a nanny or whether it's 307 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: someone that's working with you or whatever, they're so caught 308 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: off guard because you are like the nicest person and 309 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: you are so sincere and care about them, but it's 310 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: work time, So it is I think it kind of 311 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: catches them off guard a little bit more where they 312 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: take it more personally, and then they I feel bad 313 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: because then they go to you and like you're the 314 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: nice guy, and I'm like, how am I? How am 315 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 1: I getting like, I mean, that's only because that's only 316 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: because I said that, I said the stage early and often. Look, 317 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm not your friend Jane is gonna talk your ear off. 318 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: Hey you're here to work, all right, here's this go. 319 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean, like Janna, I've been on the other end 320 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: of like like when things aren't working and we need 321 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: to get the show rolling, where you're like, hey, let's 322 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: get let's get going, let's get this figured out. Um. 323 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: And I mean the way I always interpret that is 324 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 1: like this woman wants to get the show going, you know, 325 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: Like I've I've never thought like, O, jan is being 326 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,880 Speaker 1: a bitch or anything like that. Like That's the thing 327 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: actually I really appreciate, appreciate about you, and I tell 328 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: us to a lot of people, is that like you 329 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: you are super friendly, but you also you have a 330 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: product you want to do, and you want to do 331 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: that product at a high level. Uh. And something I've 332 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: worked with some other talent that uh, we'll drag their 333 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: feet and not really you know and just whatever. Um. 334 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: So that's something I always admire about you is that 335 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: you're really good about being direct but also like not 336 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: making people feel like they're in trouble or anything. Like that, 337 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: like it never like is a stressful situation when things 338 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: aren't working and you want Ryan does for you. Yeah, 339 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: and you know Iran is really good at that too. 340 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: Uh And just because you guys are prose, You've been 341 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: around for forever, you know, so I see I see 342 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: similarities in you too that way. Oh I love Ryan, 343 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: He's good, He's the best. Um. But yeah, no, I 344 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: just I just didn't think it's interesting because I'm like, 345 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: here's the thing when it comes to like the Ellen, 346 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: if there is smoke, if there's fire or wherever, what 347 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: is this thing like smoke? Like? But when that stuff 348 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: does happen, because I feel like I've at least done 349 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: it with this podcast, like when I was like, oh, 350 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 1: like I'm being too passive or I'm you know, I'm 351 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: dragging Mike through the mud, Like I'm like, okay, let's 352 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: am I doing that? Okay? Yeah? I am? Okay, how 353 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: do I do better with myself? So I hope that 354 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: people like Leah and Ellen everyone else that like, when 355 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 1: they get bad criticism, they can look in the mirror 356 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: and go, Okay, what am I doing wrong that I 357 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: can improve on? Yeah? Just people were accountable for their 358 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 1: you know their behavior, you know, and own that. Yeah. 359 00:17:42,400 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: Speaking of which, though, um let's take a break. Friends. 360 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, hi girl, I miss you both so much. 361 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: I miss you too. M hm okay, Well, for those 362 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: of you listening right now, we have our very close 363 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: friend Lindsay I'll joining us on wine down and we're 364 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: so excited because we haven't seen her in a little 365 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: while obviously with all this Corona stuff. Hey, I saw 366 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: that you were with your band. I think you are 367 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: you doing a show? What's going on? We were just filming, 368 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: um like a showcase, which I mean, I guess our 369 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: whole life has turned to virtual showcases and so um yeah, 370 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: we were pre taping a showcase that's going to be 371 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: next week just for some UK mob. Yes, so that's 372 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: what our life has turned into. But it was really 373 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: good to see them because it's the first time we 374 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: actually played together in person in an empty venue with 375 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: people with masks, So it's great. My goodness. How like, 376 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: do you feel like you're kind of coming out out 377 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: of the the darkness in a sense, like, because I 378 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: feel like in the beginning it's you know, your world 379 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: was shattered. You're the you are the the busiest person 380 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: I know in country music. I mean, you work your 381 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: tail off, you'd play all the free radio shows for 382 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: country radio. You go out there and play a million shows. 383 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean you do. Yeah, you do the overseas shows. 384 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 1: I mean you are by far the hardest working female 385 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 1: and male artist like country artists out there. So it's 386 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: like that must have been really hard when it was like, no, 387 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: you're forced to stay home. Yeah, it was definitely a 388 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: one eighty degree flip. I mean, I'm used to we 389 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: played two D thirty shows last year, and we're on 390 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: the road two d and eight days, and so it 391 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 1: was just like, I'm in a place longer than a week. 392 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: What's happening? And yet at the same time, I mean, gosh, 393 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,679 Speaker 1: so so many of us have learned so many things 394 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: over the past few months. Let's just say, but um, 395 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: I really feel like it's been one of the best 396 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: things for me to kind of slow down and like 397 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 1: really figure out what your priority is in life. And um, 398 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 1: and you know, to be able to sleep in my 399 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: own bed and have a fridge and all these little 400 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: things that you take for granted is also not bad. 401 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: But um, I just think I got so used to working, working, working, working, working, 402 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: working that when that is all of a sudden, my 403 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: main thing that takes up my time touring is like 404 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: ripped from under my feet, that rugge has taken out. 405 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, Lindsey, well, now what like when you 406 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 1: put so much of your importance in one thing and 407 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: then that thing gets taken away, I mean, you have 408 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: some adjust thing to do. And so it's it's just 409 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 1: been an amazing past four months. I mean, I thankfully 410 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: had time to finish my record because right before National shutdown, UM, 411 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: my producer down half and I we finished our last 412 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: band tracking session and then I had a bunch of 413 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: vocals and guitar parts that I finished in this very room. UM. 414 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: And so that part was good because I just had 415 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: time to focus on the music. But but personally, my 416 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: mind has gone from like into a really dark place 417 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: now out of the tunnel into the light again, and 418 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm like taking care of myself in better ways. Good. Now, 419 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: how do you feel about your album, which comes out 420 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: August fourteen, Heart Theory? How do you feel about that 421 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: coming releasing during our time like this? Do you think 422 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: there's a benefit to to it? Are you? I think 423 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: it's a disadvantage because you can't tour along with it, Like, 424 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: how were your feelings out with that? It's definitely different. 425 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm sad that I can't be traveling around the country, 426 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: you know, typical release weeks, we'd be in a different 427 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: city every day, you know, playing shows, trying to sell 428 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: as many records as we can, having really cool press looks. 429 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: And so it's definitely different. Um, doing pressed from computer 430 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: screens and pre taping everything. It's it's just something we're 431 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: all getting used to right now and being on zooms 432 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: all day and um, and so it it's not the same, 433 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: But we just do the best we can right now, 434 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: you know. And and I still think that art can 435 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: be enjoyed, and it's needed now so more than ever 436 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,760 Speaker 1: to a certain extent, because um, people are looking for 437 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: for content and and new music to enjoy. And when 438 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,120 Speaker 1: we're all sitting in our homes looking at four walls 439 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: all the time, you know, it's it's sometimes nice to 440 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: have some new arts. So I just knew that I 441 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: was writing this album about this time in my life, 442 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: and if I waited, I mean, who knows how long 443 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: Quarantine is truly good to lass in our world? And 444 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: so I didn't want to wait past the point where 445 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: I grew so past these songs and this music. So 446 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: August was always the time that we were going to 447 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: release this record, and we we just decided to keep it. 448 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that you kept it because 449 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, people are there are a 450 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: lot of not a lot of other people, but you know, 451 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: there's music being released and people want it. Um. I 452 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: mean even when the new Taylor Swift album came out. 453 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: You know, I'm not the biggest Tea Swifty, but like, 454 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: I love that, you know, new music that we can 455 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: listen to and because people need some kind of connection 456 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: and music is so healing in so many ways. It's 457 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: nice to be able to to have that. And I 458 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:27,680 Speaker 1: love that, like with what you've done, and I think 459 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: why it works perfectly for the times is you know, 460 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: you do the stages of grief um with your album, 461 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: and I just I love that so much because man, 462 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: the amount of people that have probably gone through so 463 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,719 Speaker 1: much grief and um all these different stages, even just 464 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: this year, but then also with COVID and you know, 465 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: the movement, their jobs, losing spouses, relationships, everything. Great time. 466 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: I honestly feel We go through moments of transformation so 467 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: many times in our life, whatever that reason is for, 468 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,200 Speaker 1: whether it's um getting out of relationship, losing a loved one, 469 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: losing a job, going through global pandemic, like, we're constantly 470 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: going through these moments of transformation in our lives. And 471 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: the Seven Stages of Grief is just one way to 472 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: edify that process. But it basically talks about every single 473 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: feeling we need to feel as human beings, to fully processed, 474 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: to fully let go, and then to eventually grow and 475 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,440 Speaker 1: and move on from something, not in the way that 476 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: you'll never forget it, but it just becomes a part 477 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: of you and a part of your DNA and a 478 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 1: part of your story. And so um, I was halfway 479 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: wading through the record when I was like, you know 480 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: what if I wrote kind of a concept album and 481 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: wrote these songs in order of how I'm feeling this. 482 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: You know, from stage one of shock to denial to 483 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: anger to bargaining all the way through to the last 484 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 1: stage tract well being acceptance, where you can look in 485 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: the mirror and accept yourself for everything that has happened 486 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 1: to you, every choice you've made in your life, and 487 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: know that it has brought you to the human being 488 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: you show up as today. You all goods, all bad. 489 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: I mean the songs too. I mean you have like 490 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: Tyler Hubbard from um Florida Georgia line. Your latest single, 491 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 1: want Me Back, features Kane Brown, Lindsay Ryan's Back like 492 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: you have, like you have amazing writers on these tracks too. 493 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: Obviously you know you wrote them all as well. So 494 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: I just want me back. It's such a jam. It's 495 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: so good. You know, I don't even know if I've 496 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: heard that yet. What I know. I love you guys, 497 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: I will say no want me Back? And it was like, 498 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: wasn't it the most added song on country radio? Yeah, 499 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: it was a good start. It was a good start, 500 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: good start of radio singles where you're coming from. Oh yeah, 501 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:19,919 Speaker 1: that's a jam. I would want me back to I 502 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: got you because it's so true if I were you, 503 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: I'd want me back to. You. Know. What sucks is 504 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,800 Speaker 1: that I feel so bad for people who aren't able 505 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: to hear you tour with this music because like that 506 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 1: song I there, that's I haven't even heard yet, but 507 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna be listening to that the rest of 508 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: the day. You you perform I'm very biased towards my wife. 509 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 1: I think she's the best live performer, but through all 510 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: and I'm not just saying this, through all the other 511 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 1: performances that I've seen, you're the second best because the 512 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: second to my wife, because I love you, honey. Because 513 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,679 Speaker 1: no one gets up there shreds a guitar like you, 514 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: performs with as much passion and sings like you. It's 515 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: just a disservice that you're not able to tour this 516 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: kind of music right now, because you just are a 517 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: rock star on stage, and so I just can't wait 518 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 1: till you start you're able to tour this It's gonna 519 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 1: be awesome, Mike. I mean, I I cannot wait to 520 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,560 Speaker 1: play these songs live with the band. I mean, we 521 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: we're been talking yesterday. We were just like, oh my goodness, 522 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: it feels so good to play these songs. And it 523 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: will come. The day will come. It just might be 524 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: a little bit in the future, and it's it's far 525 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: more important for everybody to stay safe and you know, 526 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: to not even encourage fans to risk their health and 527 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: risk their families health. And so do you know a 528 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: time yet, maybe like potentially if they said like winter 529 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: springs summer, like I mean not summer, but that is 530 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: such the question. Um, I mean, things just keep getting postponed, 531 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,840 Speaker 1: as I'm sure you guys have felt in so many 532 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 1: ways as well. Um. You know, there's there's talks of 533 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: the fall, and then there's talks of not till next fall. 534 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: So it's somewhere in that window where are you act? Like? 535 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: Am I allowed to asked that? I mean just like 536 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: we're you know, because there are people that have played 537 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: shows like where where What do you think is the 538 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: perfect maybe solution right now for a live show? You know, 539 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: I'm playing a writer's round tomorrow in the next few days. 540 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: Um at uh, just like a little songwriting venue in 541 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: Nashville that claims they're adhering to social distancing rules. And 542 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: I even feel weird about doing that because it's the 543 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: first show I've played since we all shut down. Um, 544 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: but you know, I I just generally feel that, especially 545 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: when it's in a festival setting, that you just can't 546 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: control what people are gonna do. And so even if 547 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: there are rules set in place, I mean, like we 548 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: saw with the various concerts that happened over the last 549 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: few weeks of Chase right so one, they were all 550 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: up each other just wants everybody wants a tour too, 551 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: So I just felt like that was kind of everybody 552 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: wants a tour well, and the venue was at what capacity? 553 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: But then everybody came together because of course they're going 554 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: to rush the front of the stage. So really, the 555 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: only way I feel comfortable playing a show right now 556 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: is if people are at tables, sitting down, socially distant, 557 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: pretty much the same way they're only allowed to eat 558 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: in a restaurant right now with masks, And it's the 559 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: only only way I'll even consider something. Um and even that, 560 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: it just feels weird. It just feels like maybe we 561 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: should just wait till next year. So crazy. Mike and 562 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: Are we were talking about this our day because I 563 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 1: had to return something and we were in the mall 564 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, everyone had their masks on, 565 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: and it's like, if you would have told me six 566 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: seven months ago, I'd have been like, you are full 567 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: of it, Like not a chance too. I've had so 568 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: many moments like that, walking into the grocery store, just 569 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: seeing everybody with masks, being like this looks like a movie, 570 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: Like it looks like contagion in person, and it's like, 571 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: what are we living through right now? I mean, yeah, 572 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: we couldn't have predicted this. What's the one thing that 573 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: you've learned about yourself that you were surprised about during 574 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: this quarantine time. I'm really bad at slowing down and 575 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: even I mean, I consider you too my close friends, 576 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: but I have a very small close friend group. And 577 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: when quarantine hit, everybody kind of you know, closed in 578 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,239 Speaker 1: with their own families, as they should. And so I 579 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: was by myself in a house in four walls for 580 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: a long time and it was just like very um, 581 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: It's just it just brought to the surface so many 582 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: different things and emotions, and I'm like, okay, Lindsay, you 583 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: have pretty much willed out a they balanced life intentionally 584 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: because I'm a workaholic, but to notice that and to 585 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: finally see perspective from it, to be like, all right, 586 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: there is a space where I can still work hard 587 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: and I can still do my job and put everything 588 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: I am into it and still have a life from it. 589 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: And so that's probably been the biggest thing I've learned, 590 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: is just like it doesn't need to be and I'll 591 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: be I'll I am a workaholic. I love to do seven. 592 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: But when you sacrifice what you want for everything else 593 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: going on in your life, you can't even show up 594 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: as as good to your job, do what you're doing 595 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: because you're just not balanced. You're not taking care of yourself. 596 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: And I haven't been taking care of myself for a 597 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: long time, thinking that just like I'm a little energizer bunny, 598 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 1: and as fast as I go, I'm I'm better off. 599 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: It's like, well, actually not actually not. I love that 600 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: you said because I feel like so many people can 601 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: relate to that. And also, you know what you were 602 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,479 Speaker 1: kind of saying, is you you in a way we're 603 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: pushing out like pushing you were pushing out love when 604 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: you should have been receiving love because has you can 605 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: do it all, Like you can have a family, you 606 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: can be a badass rock star, you can you know, 607 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: have friendships. You can do all of it. And I 608 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: think you know, when people are in your situation where 609 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: you know this is your time, you might not be 610 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: able to think that you could, but now realizing that 611 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: you can. And I love that. I love that you're 612 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,479 Speaker 1: there like as your friend, Like I love that you 613 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 1: can now see that you deserve that and that you 614 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: can have it all because you could have anything you want. 615 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,440 Speaker 1: You just have to put it out there. You have 616 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: to put it out there, and you have to believe 617 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: in yourself. And honestly, watching the two of you has 618 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: been such an inspiration to me. And I'm not just 619 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: saying that, but you guys have found ways to have 620 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: it all and to work through things and to do 621 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 1: your jobs, and to have a family and to move 622 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: across the country. And you just like have this way 623 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: of proving that you can do what you want when 624 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: you will it into existence, and you're not afraid of 625 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: the hard work and investing into it and and putting 626 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: the love in the right places that it needs to 627 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: be and showing up appreciate thank you. We're just stubborn, 628 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: we are. I mean, what have you guys learned from quarantine? Ah? 629 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 1: Um that it's okay not to respond back to an 630 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,160 Speaker 1: email right away or a text message. Woo, it can wait, 631 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: it just it can wait. What about you, Ben? I 632 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: think for me it's um, it's okay because at the 633 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: at the beginning, we were trying to be like super 634 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: mom and Dad, like every second every day we're doing 635 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: something with the kids were doing school, We're doing activities, 636 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: We're doing Archocrat, We're doing all this stuff where it's 637 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: like sometimes it's okay to have quiet time and what 638 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: Jason naps really watches TV for an how Like I 639 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: just feel like we're burning ourselves out early, where now 640 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: it's like spacing it out and enjoying those moments. I'm 641 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: able to enjoy those moments as a family and with 642 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 1: the kids more because I'm not sitting there thinking, Okay, 643 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: I got twelve hours, I got eleven more hours to go. 644 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: I'm just burning it at both ends, yeah, and not 645 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: forcing Jays to eat anymore. I'm like, do you want 646 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: animal ccters for dinner? Cool kid, here we go. You 647 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: know I saw your story that the other day and 648 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: I was just like, yep, I love it everyone. Yeah exactly, 649 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: just adapting like it's gonna be okay. Um Lindsay, I 650 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: love you. I love you so so, so so so much, 651 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: And I want everyone right now to go get her 652 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: album because it's amazing. Heart Theory and then want Me 653 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,919 Speaker 1: Back to Um is her latest single. So just don't 654 00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: turn the channel when it comes down and turn it 655 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 1: up because it's awesome and I love you guys so much, 656 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: and thank you for me believers in me from the 657 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: beginning and legit friends in my life always forever, I always, 658 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: I love you, Love you guys, hu hug. I miss 659 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: you so much. Okay, Okay. I love what she said 660 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: because I so feel that people are in that space 661 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: and I just I there's so many times when I 662 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,799 Speaker 1: would sit with Lindsay and say, She's like, I can't 663 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: be in this relationship. I can't do this, Like I 664 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: have to focus on music. I'm like, girl, I get that, 665 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 1: like and I get that you get with this one shot, 666 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 1: but like, you can't have it all. And it's so 667 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 1: hard when I'm like when when when someone doesn't believe. 668 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 1: But it's like the fact that she now sees that 669 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: and believes that I'm just like, oh, like as her friend, 670 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:40,840 Speaker 1: it just makes and you know you too, like it 671 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: just makes your heart just so freaking happy to know 672 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,919 Speaker 1: that like she can she can receive it, yeah for sure. 673 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: And it's it's one of those things where like for her, 674 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,279 Speaker 1: no one can figure that out unless they do it 675 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: for themselves, you know. I mean, like you and I 676 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: as many times as she's come over here and we've 677 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: sat and had a glass of wine and talked with 678 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: her about life and relationships and everything. She just she's 679 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,439 Speaker 1: not going to just start doing her Nobody's gonna start 680 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: doing it just because someone tells them to. They have 681 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,040 Speaker 1: to come up with that themselves. And so, like you said, 682 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: to see her like really go through that process is awesome, 683 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: you know for sure, Hey, Julie, do you want to say, 684 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: let's take a break? Take all right? I gotta go 685 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 1: with Jayston, So let's take a break and they'll be 686 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: right back. All right, all right, Easton, let's I gotta 687 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 1: head back to sets So um, by the way, Easton, 688 00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: why didn't you fly here to come do this? I 689 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,920 Speaker 1: know that that's uh, that's what I was hoping for. 690 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,240 Speaker 1: But you know, it's a different world. And she starts 691 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: like a weaker shooting, So maybe I'll have to send 692 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: Amy and email on like Amy, I just can't do this. 693 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 1: I forgot how to do everything, and Eastern needs to 694 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,799 Speaker 1: come out here. I was looking finally back on my 695 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,920 Speaker 1: time in New Iberia, Louisiana the other day, and you know, 696 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: I posted this, but I forgot that we we made 697 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: it into the local paper, and uh, I was just 698 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: like there's a picture of you like walking away from 699 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 1: the set and I'm just like lurking in the background, 700 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,080 Speaker 1: like like lurch or something. And it was like you're 701 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: my body. Yeah, and Eastern came just made me look 702 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: like your bad husband because it was like my first 703 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: night in Jane's like you want to come? Said, I'm like, no, 704 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm tired, like I know. I was just 705 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 1: like and okay, and that's right there. Here's your husband. Eastern. Um. Okay, Eastern, 706 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: get us an email. Let's do it. Um. This one 707 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,399 Speaker 1: was from Ali Uh. I wrote this two years ago 708 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: and I just found it in my drafts. Wow. Uh, 709 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: better late than never. I just finished episode two and 710 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: I love that you had Mike on there. I'm twenty 711 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: five years old and new mom and I have a 712 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: boyfriend of almost five years who is the father of 713 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: our child, and I just separated two days ago for infidelity. 714 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: But a situation occurred which was our breaking point. We 715 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: have been struggling in our relationships since I was pregnant 716 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: and problems that never really got resolved. The sad thing 717 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 1: is we had just signed our second lease to a 718 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: new apartment together the day before the situation. Occurred. I'm 719 00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,319 Speaker 1: broken right now because my biggest fear in life is 720 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: not giving my son a family with both of his parents. 721 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: I've seen what divorce does to people, and it has 722 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: always been my biggest fear for me, not to be 723 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 1: together for our son. I loved hearing everything you said 724 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: about your love languages and what you want, because that's 725 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,719 Speaker 1: exactly me. I need touch and words of affirmation, which 726 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: were far off from what he liked. Mike's love languages 727 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 1: are his two and hearing his side of the story 728 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 1: made sense to me. But the most important thing I 729 00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: heard was that he didn't want to lose you and 730 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,839 Speaker 1: your family. Mike said that as much as you want 731 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: someone to change, you can't until they do it and 732 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: want to. My question is what do I do till 733 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: it clicks for him? What made Mike click? Well, first 734 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 1: of all, thank you for writing I. If you continue 735 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:01,040 Speaker 1: listening on, Mike is now a permanent on this show, 736 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: a permanent guests. UM, and I will say, I know 737 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: you don't want to have a divorced family. I know 738 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: no one goes into you know, getting married, having kids 739 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: in hopes of having a divorced family. UM, I've seen 740 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 1: families do it and it looks beautiful. I have friends 741 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,279 Speaker 1: that you know, are divorced and they have great relationships 742 00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: with their you know, husband's spouse and vice versa. So 743 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: I've seen how it can be beautiful and how you 744 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: can make it manageable for the kids and for both 745 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,839 Speaker 1: of y'all. Um. But obviously, you know, we think that 746 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: before you get there, you should try to fight for 747 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,040 Speaker 1: it if both people are willing to fight. But that's 748 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: just kind of my side of it. But I'll let 749 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,160 Speaker 1: you bay if you want to speak on what maybe 750 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: clicked for you. Um, I make up I think men 751 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 1: in general. It's actually hard for me say because I 752 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 1: feel that I'm actually not a very selfish person, but 753 00:39:55,840 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: mentally I definitely can be where if I've said it 754 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: before on this show, but like what my therapist calls 755 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: Mike's world, like if it doesn't make sense in Mike's world, 756 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: in my brain, I really have a hard time being sensitive, 757 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 1: being empathetic, being rational, being anything around it because I'm 758 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: just like, it doesn't make sense to me, that's stupid, 759 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:22,760 Speaker 1: Like that's where my head wants to go. So for him, 760 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know whether their statusus now for guys, 761 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 1: it's like we need to get out of our own 762 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,959 Speaker 1: way and realize that our love languages aren't the only 763 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: important thing, that our needs aren't the only important thing. 764 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: That there is a way to work as a team 765 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: and to meet halfway. And so just looking back at myself, 766 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: you know, compare myself now to five years ago, Mike, 767 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 1: It's a lot of it comes from that, from just 768 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 1: that selfishness, um, mental selfishness of my emotions and feelings 769 00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: and not you know, not learning how not knowing how 770 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: to preshed them to Jana, and then also not being 771 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: able to lean into Gina about them or hear hers. 772 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 1: So I think that's the biggest thing. Yeah, it's good 773 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 1: in sight. Um. Alright, guys, I have to head back 774 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: on set. Um, so I'll see you guys later. See 775 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 1: you