WEBVTT - Episode 5: The Necklace 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:03.640 The Manawat Caves is intended for mature audiences. It contains 0:00:03.680 --> 0:00:07.560 strong language and depictions of bullying, violence, and sexual assault 0:00:07.600 --> 0:00:11.080 that some may find disturbing. Listener discretion is advised. Also, 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.600 this is an extremely immersive experience and headphones are recommended. 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.560 You're listening to The Manawat Caves, a production of iHeartRadio, 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:44.320 Blumhouse Television and Psycopia Pictures. Okay, oh, guess six eleven am. 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:46.600 I'm sitting at a gas station park a lot. I 0:00:46.600 --> 0:00:50.880 don't remember coming here. I swear I was being attacked, 0:00:52.040 --> 0:00:55.000 like by a swarm of bats. And I know I 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:59.000 saw the driver's side window crack when a batting. I 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:04.040 know I saw that both the windows fine. Now that 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.560 he the hairline fracture. There's a prompet for bad with 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:10.440 the twelve pack of beer sitting in the passenger seat 0:01:10.480 --> 0:01:17.720 of my cart. No idea how it got there. I 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:22.960 recognize this gas station, yes I do it. Snear Tyler's place, 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:24.960 which means I must have decided to drive out here 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.479 and talk to him in person. Maybe stay the night, 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:52.560 explains the beer man. You've reached Tyler Wilson Wilson Repair Services, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:54.560 leave a message and we'll get back to you as 0:01:54.560 --> 0:01:58.400 soon as possible. Thanks and have a great day. Hey man, 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:02.240 it's Julian. Listen, and I'm taking you up on your 0:02:02.280 --> 0:02:04.680 offer to let me stay your place for a few 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:09.079 The motel ain't exactly working out. If it's cool, I'm 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:12.920 actually heading over there now. Probably best for us to 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:41.680 talk in person. Anyway. I got out of the car, 0:02:42.480 --> 0:02:46.080 walked to the door. It was already open, so I 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:58.120 just walked in. Tyler, I know you're walking like that. 0:02:59.760 --> 0:03:23.119 H Tyler, Tyler, what's gone? Oh my god? I think 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:26.320 he was the quiet one. He wore this silver cross 0:03:26.440 --> 0:03:30.200 round his neck like a flashy reminder of the inequities 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.960 of life. Like some people can be as statistic as 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:47.320 they please with no consequences. Did I pass? I guess 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:49.000 you know you're the better than you used to? Could 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.320 I put you maybe in tail with a big show 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:57.600 to see your old buddy James Benshall. Get the jab. 0:03:59.040 --> 0:04:04.080 It's gonna be quiet. I Dispectator's part. You don't understand 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.960 I had to come back when you should have resisted 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:26.159 that urge. The beasts of don to true to you're 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:30.040 playing with fire, hear you have no idea what you, messment. 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:33.680 It's not just for me. I'm trying to do the 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:38.360 righting here for fans. I'm trying to help him a 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:48.240 little too fucking late for that, don't you think? Then? 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:51.920 Of course, there's witness testimony from one of his own 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:57.200 classmates that James Fincher had Deacon Hadley's necklace, a silver 0:04:57.360 --> 0:05:02.360 crucifix in his possession the day after the boys went missing, 0:05:03.600 --> 0:05:07.159 and this witness described what appeared to be bloodstains on 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:14.800 that crucifix. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the offense 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:19.880 is a charade. There is no doubt as to who 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:25.880 killed Thomas and Deacon happening. The murderer sits before you 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:41.240 in this very room. August eight, eleven, eleven PM. My 0:05:41.279 --> 0:05:45.840 mind is playing tricks on me. It feels like I'm 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.159 lost in a house, and mirrors, the blackouts in the 0:05:48.240 --> 0:06:00.240 nightmares are happening more frequently. I'm I'm really scared. Right now. 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.440 I'm sitting on a bench at the Old View Cemetery 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:06.159 where my mother and father are buried. I can see 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.200 their graves from here, right up there in that hill. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:12.520 I know I om a visit, but I guess I'm 0:06:12.560 --> 0:06:17.120 not ready for that, yet it's just close enough for now. 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:21.400 I don't know how long I've been here or how 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:25.320 I got here. I assume my car is around somewhere. 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.279 But the last thing I remember, I was at Dina's house. 0:06:28.640 --> 0:06:32.920 Joe Campbell was there too, and Fincher's defense attorney LeBlanc. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:37.040 But a lot has happened since then. I just don't 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:46.520 know what I remember. I went to Tyler's and I 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:55.120 found his house all smashed up the fuck Okay, according 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.760 to my log, that was on the sixth, two days ago. 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:05.800 I don't remember pressing record, and yet I feel like 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.320 it's all here somehow. In this recording, I made a 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:13.320 Tyler's place. This is the epicenter, ground zero for the 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.600 fog and the ghost, and maybe Tyler himself holds the 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:20.040 key to unlock the truth wherever he is. I've played 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:24.080 it back three times already. I'm searching for something. What 0:07:24.160 --> 0:07:44.720 am I missing? Tyler? Tyler? You go on, come on, 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:46.280 get out of here. Hit the hell out of here. 0:07:49.360 --> 0:08:00.440 Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ. Okay, so I'll just sixty two thirteen. Damn, 0:08:00.480 --> 0:08:03.600 I'm at Tyler's cabin out off through twenty six. He 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.080 invited me I didn't break in. Okay, I want that 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.440 own record. I didn't break in. The door was already 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:14.000 unlocked when I got here. That's normal round here. I mean, 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.560 I let myself in when he didn't answer, and I 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:22.960 didn't think hell, the TV was still on. Okay, there 0:08:23.000 --> 0:08:27.320 seems to be signs of a sign of a struggle. 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:31.160 His coffee table is knocked over, there's broken glass everywhere. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:36.160 It smells like gum powder. It looks like he was 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:38.840 eating just like snacks or whatever. And I chip. There's 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.000 chips all over the floor, which is what I imagine 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:45.720 the possums. After the bookshelf against the wall is broken. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.080 The shelves are all smashed up, and everything that was 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.360 on them, like books and little knit knacks and then 0:08:50.400 --> 0:08:55.880 whatnot are all over the place. Is that there's a 0:08:55.920 --> 0:09:06.280 shotgun shell? A fuck time? Oh shit? Oh so um, 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:10.880 there's blood. It's everywhere. I didn't even see it when 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:12.520 I got in here. How did I not see it? 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:16.200 I got blood on me, it's all there's blood all 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:21.240 over my shirt sleeve, all over my shirt sleeve. It 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.960 took me a salo of three minutes of hyperventilating before 0:09:23.960 --> 0:09:25.920 I realized the blood. I was covered and was my 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:31.040 own most of its least. I was so distraught at 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:33.160 the state of Tyler's cabin that I didn't even notice 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:34.920 that I cut my wrist. I'm a shard of glass 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:40.680 from the coffee table when I rolled it over. That's 0:09:40.679 --> 0:09:46.920 when I got dizzy. These uh episodes, they're happening more often, 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.520 less time in between attacks. This one started with a 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:55.920 sound banging on glass coming from somewhere in the back 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:59.960 of Tyler's house. So I followed it, expecting to find 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:03.400 someone or something like knock getting on a window or something. 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:08.920 There was nothing, but the knocking didn't stop, and I 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:11.559 realized that it wasn't coming from the windows at all. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:15.640 It was coming from the bathroom. I followed it, but 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:20.760 the bathroom was empty, too, and I realized it wasn't 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.200 glass from a window I was hearing being banged done. 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:30.240 It was the glass from the bathroom mirror. I opened 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:34.200 the medicine cabin and the whole thing like moved, like 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:37.680 it was loose on its frame. I pulled it all 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:42.200 out from the wall. I found myself staring into this 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:52.880 dark void on the other side of the mirror, and 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:56.880 then one of them hit me in the face the back, 0:10:57.720 --> 0:11:06.680 and the swarm followed an ocean of flying rodents funneling 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:10.600 through the back of Tyler's medicine cabinet, looking for an 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:15.520 outlet to go pursue their nightly feeting. They gathered in clumps, 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:20.920 taking positions on the curtain rod, hanging upside down, staring 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:28.240 at me. Then one by one they started hissing. I 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:31.240 turned and I looked into the darkness behind the mirror. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:42.000 Then I crawled through the hole. I found myself standing 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:47.360 on familiar ground. I was back in the fucking cave, 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:52.400 and I greeted their depths like an ottle friend. And 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:56.880 I heard a terrifying voice coming from somewhere behind me. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:02.160 It was Deacon Hadley words. I couldn't make out, words 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:06.600 echoing off the wet cave walls, so I walked deeper in, 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:11.760 and then I heard his voice cut short. Next thing 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:14.240 I knew, I was back in the bedroom. I grew 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:19.480 up in just like before, and so was the gray Man, 0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:27.480 decayed and rasping, ben and rotting in the shadows. What 0:12:27.640 --> 0:12:41.679 are gone? What the fucking okay? I'm not sure how 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.080 long I was gone or exactly when I came back, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:47.680 but when I regained my consciousness. I was sitting neatly 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:51.160 on the floor at Tyler's place, and the cut on 0:12:51.280 --> 0:12:55.319 my hand had already started clotting over, just like before, 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:59.599 and just like now. I don't remember the events themselves 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:03.400 how I ended up where I did. I only remember 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:08.360 the nightmare. I hauled myself up off the ground, made 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:12.000 my way half conscious, to my car, and I drove myself, yes, 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:17.960 one handed, to the hospital for stitches. Of course, once 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.760 I was there, they wanted to know how I got cut. 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:23.600 I thought about lying. I slept on a rock, was 0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:26.360 clumsy with a table saw. I got two confident pitting 0:13:26.360 --> 0:13:30.200 an avocado. But I knew my blood was all over 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:33.920 Tyler's living room floor at this point, mixed with whatever 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.280 other blood was already there. If it didn't look like 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:40.200 a crime scene before I got there, it's sure as 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:43.400 hell did after. So I went ahead and I filed 0:13:43.440 --> 0:13:56.640 the formal report. Julian, how are you doing? So? I 0:13:56.760 --> 0:13:59.240 kept my recorder going when I went into the sheriff station, 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.679 where I was reunited with Sheriff Kirby Hooper. He looks 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:07.960 old now, pale, gaunt. Sure if I want to follow 0:14:07.960 --> 0:14:15.600 a missing person support for Tyler Wilson. People disappear all 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.320 the time, Julian, what makes you think Tyler is missing? 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:24.120 Sides of the struggle at his house signs of a struggle. 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.400 I'm just telling you what I saw. It looked at 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:28.080 me like there had been a struggle. And what were 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.840 you doing in his house? Well, he invited me. Why 0:14:30.840 --> 0:14:33.400 does anyone go to anyone's house. There's no need to 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.840 get defensive. I'm not. We just need to find him. 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:41.320 My job is to find answers. And if your friend 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:45.360 is missing, that brings up a lot of questions. Why 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:47.280 don't we start with you telling me what you know. 0:14:48.560 --> 0:14:53.040 If memories served me correctly, you've been quite helpful and 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.440 giving me the answers that I needed in the past. 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:05.600 Sun bitch all but admitted to coersion, as if I'm 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.320 not already painfully fucking aware. If he had just come 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.840 out and said it, we would have probably had everything 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:14.000 we needed to get Finch off death Row. But he 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:18.600 knew better. Sheriff Hooper maybe a shit hell, but he's cautious, 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:22.920 unlike the rest of his boys and Brown. What happened 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.480 next was all a bit of a ship show man 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:29.040 of walks fine a stampede into Tyler's house, touching everything, 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:32.680 knocking shit over. If there was any evidence in there 0:15:32.720 --> 0:15:34.880 as to what happened to Tyler, it was all immediately 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:37.920 tainted by idiot cops who had not been properly trained 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:41.200 on how to preserve a crime scene. One rookie officer 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.240 right out of high school. We even started cleaning up 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:48.000 the place. Or maybe it wasn't even stupidity, Maybe it 0:15:48.040 --> 0:15:50.920 was just made to look like stupidity. I mean, it 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:53.600 wasn't exactly in Hooper's interest to take any action that 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:59.440 might reopen the Hadley murder case. Those cops did come 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:04.280 away with one interesting fund, however, No, I'm not really 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:11.680 sure how I feel about it yet. A necklace. The necklace, 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:16.520 a small cross a crucifix hanging from a silver chain 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:19.560 may not have seemed two odds your average passer by, 0:16:20.160 --> 0:16:23.600 but to anyone who knew Tyler well, Tyler was an 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:28.080 outspoken atheist, probably the only one in Manuel County. That 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.800 cross didn't belong to him, but it did look awfully familiar. 0:16:31.840 --> 0:16:34.760 In fact, anybody who has lived in the area long 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.720 enough would probably have recognized it, if not from the 0:16:37.760 --> 0:16:40.560 gaudy chain, then from the initials edged into the back 0:16:40.600 --> 0:16:48.120 of it. DH I remember that necklace. I used to 0:16:48.160 --> 0:16:51.040 sit behind Deacon have the inphasicis class, and I remember 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.600 staring at that exact chain pressed into the pink, freckled 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.960 skin on the back of his neck. I remember thinking 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.760 it was ironic to someone who took such joy and 0:17:01.880 --> 0:17:05.000 the torment of others flaunted a symbol of faith and 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:09.200 compassion so publicly. There was no doubt as to who 0:17:09.240 --> 0:17:12.119 the neck was belonged to. There was no doubt it 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:15.399 was the infamous missing necklace. The Dully Tapper testified about 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:21.840 under oath and James Sincer's trial. Man, what did James 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:31.359 Spencer say to you that day? Well, Sir hey kind 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:35.600 of right about it, about knowing where they was at, 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:42.360 where who was that Thomas and Dickon Hadley? Sir said 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.760 he knew what had happened to them, and what did 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:51.399 he say happened to them? Said that it was for 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.840 him to know and for everyone else to find out, 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:59.480 said they would too find out. Sir Son, Enough he 0:17:59.560 --> 0:18:05.280 said it, he said. And did you believe him, honestly, 0:18:06.760 --> 0:18:13.000 not really until he showed me the cross. The cross. 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:19.480 It was the silver cross with Jesus crucified the one 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:23.240 Deacon always wore. Fincher dangles in front of me and says, 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.879 that's what happens when you mess with the Finchers and 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.200 tells me I'll end up saying if I don't leave him, 0:18:29.240 --> 0:18:34.280 be his sister too. Says I better keep my mouth 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:44.040 shut too, or what go on, shoe, or he'd kill me. 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.760 They never proved the finch had Deacon's necklace. It was 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:55.800 never found, but the missing crucifix necklace received significant press 0:18:55.840 --> 0:19:00.560 attention during the trial. So what the hell was the 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:06.240 silver necklace doing in Tyler's bathroom cabinet? Randomly, Tyler Wilson 0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.520 goes missing and Deacon Hadley's cross is discovered in his 0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:15.440 house less than a week before James Fincher's execution, being 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:18.159 the Duley Tapper was the cop that found it. Rumors 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.520 are already spreading faster than skunk wind. People around town 0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:32.439 are speculating, and tensions are high. Well, just look at 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:37.000 this standing room only I get it. The town needs 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.959 somewhere to turn for answers, for comfort, and of course 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:45.800 Reverend Perkins has seized the opportunity. All right, all right, 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:54.680 y'all settling now, now I know why it's been so 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:57.720 long since some of you've been in here. And don't 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.800 you worry just because you wander the field, that doesn't 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:05.720 mean you've strayed from the flock. I know that God 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:09.320 knows that. But I also know why you've chosen to 0:20:09.359 --> 0:20:16.840 come back today. It's because you're afraid, And of course 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:22.600 you are. Thomas and Deacon Hadley joined the Lord fourteen 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:27.320 years ago this past May. But the Lord truly does 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:30.919 work miracles, giving each and every one of us the 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:35.800 strength the power through him to carry on, to keep 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.240 the faith, to know that God is cradling those boys 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.159 in his kingdom, safe and sheltered from the debauchery and 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:49.560 sends of mankind on earth. But now now we are reminded, 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.000 and it's hard to not assume the worst, that the 0:20:52.119 --> 0:20:55.920 devil has been living amongst us all this time. Well, 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:59.640 I have news for you. He has. He has been 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:06.360 living among us, and he is still here walking among us. 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:11.760 The Bible tells us be sober, be vigilant, because your adversary, 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:15.520 the Devil, as a roaring line, walketh about, seeking whom 0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:19.240 he may devour. Now you say it to me, bot Reverend, 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.440 I thought we caught. The Devil's servant, James Fincher is 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.920 riding away on death road for murder. Into that. I say, 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:29.760 thank the Lord, But lo, even with James Fincher's execution 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:32.880 right around the corner, the devil has made his presence 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:39.480 known again. He has slithered into our midst intent on 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:43.919 causing further harm to our faithful community, sowing his seeds 0:21:43.920 --> 0:21:48.879 of doubt and working to upend justice. The devil is cunning. 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:53.000 Here is a trickster. Are we so arrogant us to 0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:58.480 believe he could not outsmart us? Consider with me, folks, 0:21:58.720 --> 0:22:03.920 that someone was working behind James Fincher that night so 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:09.240 long ago, and consider that he may still be freely 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:14.000 walking amongst us. Because what is happening here and now 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:18.600 to our proud little town is the devil's work. You'd 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:22.560 better believe that is the devil's work, and you'll know 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:32.040 that the devil works hard. The town has lost its 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:37.080 collective shit after that sermon, an authority figure in the 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:40.880 community is now telling everyone outright to be afraid. He's 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:43.600 taken the vague suspicions that were swimming around in people's 0:22:43.600 --> 0:22:46.480 heads and he's solidified them into the threat of a 0:22:46.600 --> 0:22:50.879 killer on the loose in their own backyard. The boogeyman 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:54.000 is still out there. Folks. You could end up just 0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:58.840 like those boys. You will end up just like those boys. 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:04.040 Repent your sins and pay the church. God will protect 0:23:04.080 --> 0:23:08.760 you if you open your wallet and follow those in 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:17.960 power and the people. They're eating it up. Hooper isn't 0:23:17.960 --> 0:23:21.280 going to object. Even in his heyday, he was always 0:23:21.280 --> 0:23:25.960 in perkins pocket. But now Kirby Hooper is an old dog. 0:23:26.760 --> 0:23:29.000 He doesn't have the stam not run two laps around 0:23:29.000 --> 0:23:31.119 the sheriff station. Let a little track down a killer. 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.800 So why not let Reverend Perkins do the heavy lifting. 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:38.399 If Perkins can scare up the town good enough, convince 0:23:38.440 --> 0:23:41.600 them to start thinking irrationally pointing fingers at one another, 0:23:41.600 --> 0:23:44.400 well Hooper can do exactly like he did with James Fincher, 0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.399 sit back and wait for the town to tell him 0:23:48.400 --> 0:23:51.960 who to put away. No actual detective work needed. Hell, 0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:55.639 this whole thing is a blessing Hooper's approvable rate and 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.400 will go through the roof. Come next election, he'll rake 0:23:58.480 --> 0:24:02.560 in the dough. I'll sit him back, getting fatter work 0:24:02.560 --> 0:24:15.159 in the system at its finest. New message in the 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:19.040 team in spak Spotsville posts. I want to let you 0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:21.840 know we are running a piece on the Tyler Wilson 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:25.520 investigation as a sidebar to the Fincher execution story. I 0:24:25.680 --> 0:24:28.399 understand you were the last one to visit Tyler before 0:24:28.560 --> 0:24:32.959 his disappearance. I think they're calling it anyway. I just 0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:35.119 wanted to let you know that we are mentioning you, 0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:38.320 and we'd like to include any comments that you'd like 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.000 to put in there as well. So, yeah, just get 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:43.680 back to me when you can. Oh. Yeah. In the meantime, 0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:46.119 I'm still working on that interview tape you asked from me, 0:24:46.760 --> 0:24:51.120 you know, the one with a detective Smith. Message. Next message, 0:24:51.280 --> 0:24:56.719 send through, next message, send Julian. I'll have Joe Campbell 0:24:56.760 --> 0:24:58.879 and our journing this to Rank coming over to night 0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:01.560 at seven, thanking that for you, to her invest of 0:25:01.640 --> 0:25:10.240 you that just need only back Dina Fincher. She's small, 0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.879 but you couldn't pay me to get on her bad side. 0:25:13.800 --> 0:25:16.080 She's got a fire in her that burns hotter than 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.240 any hell Perkins could dream of. So when she says 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:22.520 to call her right back, you do. We met up 0:25:22.520 --> 0:25:24.840 about an hour after she left that message back at 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:30.200 her house. Problem is, by the time I got there, 0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:36.879 I was hard to be coming unstable again. Well you 0:25:36.880 --> 0:25:40.560 don't look so hot, Julian, just saying I've had better weeks. 0:25:41.080 --> 0:25:43.880 How are you holding up? DNA? Well? Between them putting 0:25:43.880 --> 0:25:46.000 me back on the graveyard shift at work, A sick 0:25:46.040 --> 0:25:48.360 dog who's vet bills I can't afford. Am I delinquents 0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:51.360 on sneaking out every night while I'm working. Just lovely, 0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.600 but frankly, Julian, just how my disposition is situated right 0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:57.320 now don't matter. The only thing that matters is saving 0:25:57.359 --> 0:25:59.760 my brother's life. You feel me? Oh, yeah, of course 0:25:59.760 --> 0:26:05.240 I don't. I'm okay, thanks, How about you, Jill, No, 0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:08.000 I'm fine. Thanks. I'm just gonna set this on the 0:26:08.040 --> 0:26:12.320 table if that's okay. Come on, and mister le Blanc. 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:16.760 This is Julian Sollas. Oh, this is Julian Good. I 0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:19.160 was hoping you've been joining us today. Well, when data 0:26:19.200 --> 0:26:22.080 Fitcher calls you pick up, I'm glad you decided to 0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:26.119 officially join our defense team. Whatever you need you just 0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:28.960 let me know. Well, we needed your signature. I've already 0:26:28.960 --> 0:26:31.640 prepared a let her on your bath. I'm abound legal 0:26:31.640 --> 0:26:33.680 a little let you know that the language here has suggested, 0:26:33.840 --> 0:26:35.280 so take a minute and read it over. But if 0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:38.120 you can sign him, yeah, sure of course, I'm happy 0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:41.200 to make any edits. Dina, do you ever print it? No? 0:26:42.840 --> 0:26:44.439 All right, that's okay. I have won in the car 0:26:44.720 --> 0:26:48.000 ed le Blanc, a tall, tired looking man in his sixties, 0:26:48.400 --> 0:26:50.960 long gray hair, white shirt and a well worn linen 0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.720 suit like a southern William Kunstler. The plan was to 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:57.800 petition a higher court to intervene and hopefully order the 0:26:57.840 --> 0:27:00.719 lower court or maybe man, I'll walk how any district 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.320 attorney to review James Sentcher's case on the grounds that 0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:09.240 the key witnesses testimony have been coerced. That key witness 0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:13.760 it was me. I had to publicly state that my 0:27:13.880 --> 0:27:19.200 deposition fourteen years ago was false. Junior. You okay, yeah, 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.040 I just can I can I get that water? Jimmy 0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:25.200 can get it, Jimmy, Dina? Has the press reached out 0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:29.080 just the usual stuff, But nothing about this Tyler Wilson business. 0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:33.640 No what Tyler Wilson business. Julian hasn't told you? Yeah, 0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:39.199 I just got here, actually told me what. Well. I 0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.400 went out to visit Tyler at his place. But when 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:45.119 I got there, it was all smashed up, looks like 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.359 a forced entry, and Tyler was nowhere to be found. 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.960 I reported it looks like it may have been found. 0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:54.159 Play what's this got to do with my brother? The 0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.399 Sheriff's office came out to Tyler's home to investigate, and 0:27:57.480 --> 0:28:01.200 they found the necklace. What necklace? The one that belonged 0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:09.800 to Deacon Hadley silver crucifix? Yes, the one they never found. Yeah, 0:28:10.240 --> 0:28:16.640 I'm familiar. So what's this all mean? Well, it might 0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:19.480 be enough to throw James's criminal trial and question which 0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:22.840 could trigger a postponement of the execution. Seriously, we can 0:28:22.840 --> 0:28:26.160 file a claim of new evidence. What does that do? Exactly? 0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.040 Law allows any individual convicted of a crime to move 0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.600 the court to overturn their sentence based upon a claim 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:34.000 of newly discovered evidence. So if we can argue that 0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:38.120 the necklace clearly points to Tyler Wilson, it raises new questions. 0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.479 It certainly creates reasonable doubt about james guilt or if 0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:45.240 he acted alone. But it's not Wait a minute, you 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:47.720 don't think Tyler really did it, though, do you? Well, 0:28:47.760 --> 0:28:50.520 somebody sure as hell did. Yeah, but his house was 0:28:50.560 --> 0:28:55.000 all smashed up, there was blood everywhere. Something happened to Tyler. 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.880 What happened to him is irrelevant far as I'm concerned. 0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.480 Is how much responsibility he asked for all this? And 0:29:00.520 --> 0:29:03.720 he ain't here to rebut anything, so it can't be serious. 0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.480 Deacon Hadley's necklace was found in his house. That's evidence, 0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.080 evidence of what? Why the hell else did he get 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.720 that necklace? Julian, There's any number of ways that he 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.320 could ed it up at Tyler's house. And what kind 0:29:15.360 --> 0:29:18.480 of person keeps some kind of things anyway, I'll tell 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:23.560 you what parents and murderers. Suddenly it's now on me, 0:29:24.040 --> 0:29:27.280 on my shoulders to implicate Tyler in an effort to 0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.320 save Finch, like I have to choose between the two. 0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:34.000 I can correct the thing that triggered all of myself 0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:38.479 loathing and bad decisions that the past fourteen years has wrought, 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.880 but only if I start the process over again by 0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:45.600 doing now exactly what I did, then point at an 0:29:45.600 --> 0:29:50.440 innocent man and call him guilty. There's no relief from 0:29:50.480 --> 0:29:54.960 my past. It's just an opportunity for me to repeat it. 0:29:55.480 --> 0:29:57.680 I never end in a loop of ruining lives and 0:29:57.760 --> 0:30:01.880 in doing so, destroying my own. Sitting there in Diana's 0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:05.880 living room. I was trapped. Just hold on a minute. 0:30:05.960 --> 0:30:10.920 I couldn't breathe. How do you know that someone didn't 0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:14.280 plant it, Julie Tapper or somebody could have broken and 0:30:14.360 --> 0:30:17.640 knocked him out or whatever the planted the necklace before 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:21.000 taking him wherever they took him. Seriously, Julian, what if 0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:24.040 it's true? What if me showing back up in town, 0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:27.360 poking around and the ship made somebody nervous? What if 0:30:27.920 --> 0:30:31.000 that person needed to find a scapegoat? Can I please? 0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.160 Can I please gets the water? June? If something else though, 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:38.680 Julian Tyler was seen on Friday, good morning after you 0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:43.120 went to his place where Riverbend Maximum Security Institution in 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.920