WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Deon Cole 0:00:00.320 --> 0:00:03.160 Of Course Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.000 This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:10.959 What Up, y'all, It's like yeah, And this week's q 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:15.280 l S classic guests is actor, writer, and comedian Dion Cole. 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:17.840 Listen as he talks about black is, the art of 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.680 the Stolen joke and his time writing for Conan and 0:00:20.840 --> 0:00:23.160 a Tonight Show. You don't want to miss this one. 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:25.680 Oh that's right, you already did, so catch up. This 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:43.600 episode originally released September twentie s. Roll Call Supremo, roll 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:54.040 Call sum roll Call roll is here. Yeah, I won't 0:00:54.080 --> 0:00:57.640 steer you wrong. Yeah. When you cook my right some beans? Yeah, 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:06.880 the radio better be on. Frema roll call, Frima Prima 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:12.040 roll Call. My name is Fonte. Watch how I kick it? Yeah? Hey, 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:18.080 what's up? White girl? Yeah? I got your mere ticket 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:27.559 Roma Frema roll my name is Sugar. Yeah with the uncle. Yeah, 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:39.520 full disclosure. Yeah, just smoked a big boy rolla roll call. 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.800 I'm unpaid bill. Yeah, and times is tough. Yeah, what 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:51.560 has a big dick? Yeah? And hangs up. Roll Call 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:59.760 Sua Suprema roll Call. It's like with the plan, better 0:01:59.760 --> 0:02:11.440 watch out, Dion. Yeah, I love me some Diane call. 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:15.359 My name is de yeah, and I'm with y'all. Yeah, 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:24.120 I don't rhyme much. Yeah, but who knows that? So 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:39.679 roll call roll hold it, Ladies and gentlemen, check out 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:45.359 unpaid Bill trying to flex on us. Like of all 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.680 your roll call versus, I thought that was so perfect. 0:02:49.000 --> 0:02:51.880 It was that I felt like you were doing it 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.560 despite us, because you know that we always judge you 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:58.160 for not being on subject whoever the guest is. But 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:01.800 I was on subject today. That's amazing, Ladies and gentlemen. 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:06.480 This is Love Supreme only on Pandora. Welcoming you guys. 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:13.040 I'm here with teams Supreme, Sigo, Sugar, Steve Equal. It's 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:16.000 gonna fall out this one over here. Let's just finished 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:25.079 right now and played through the pain. Okay, but I'm 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.720 paid Bill with his relevant verses, so relevant, and it's 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:38.120 like you name, it's we found it. It's not it's version. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:42.000 You know, it's like my name. We're saying your new 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.400 name on the show is n you know what's funny. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:46.600 I wasn't like, I'll take it. It's a upgrade. No, 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:48.960 it's like a right, Yeah, I try that once would 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.720 come on from the roots. It was gonna be It's Jimmy, 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:56.640 but then he became fake Muslims, so then you know 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:01.480 they were Yeah, that was just name James. Great anyway, 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:05.200 ladies and gentlemen, Uh, we are honored today to have 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:09.200 our guests. I have to say that full disclosure. Uh, 0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:12.560 this is this was a surprise. Uh for a lot 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:15.160 of us. Happy is a welcome surprise. But we're very 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:19.720 welcome surprise. Because I wanted to let you know that 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:24.320 your your your Netflix half hour special on the Stand 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:27.000 Ups is one of my favorite things ever. Your your 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:30.520 history with Conan. I'm a Conan fan, and you know 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:33.880 all the things you you were actually writing on the 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:37.000 tonight show. We were in there. But ladies and gentlemen, 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:41.400 please from Blackish, from Angie Tribeca. Uh, one of my 0:04:41.480 --> 0:04:51.520 favorite comedians. This is Dion Cole right now, blown away 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:59.760 right now. We're fans were great man, fans of OD. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:03.360 This is great man. I thought Dean Sanders was coming. 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.240 I was gonna say, part of me was going to 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.520 is he gonna do it? Must be the money reference. 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:18.000 I gotta I gotta let him know, man school, you 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:25.359 know it's yeah, sorry for doing how you doing today. Man, 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.960 I'm man, I'm good man. Just got off works. Was 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.360 about to say, you literally came from the set. Yeah, 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.960 we're shooting Black its man. This is season four, Yeah, 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:36.920 the season four. Yeah, so I just left to say, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:39.600 come on, came on over here, man, you're shooting the 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:45.360 first episode of the season. We're actually on episode four. Okay, yeah, 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:49.880 studying five. We just got the disclosure were I believe 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:55.840 that the roots are involved in the premier episode, slavery. 0:05:54.680 --> 0:06:02.280 It's us Yeah, to say that with such alacrity clarity, 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:06.120 you know, slavery sitting on the porch. You know that 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:12.360 makes sense. Okay, yeah, we once words. Thank you. It's 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:31.960 it's drade. Everybody celebrate. Yea. So what is well? I 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:37.239 want to know about your your your routine with Black 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:42.760 is which you know I feel? Is it almost blasphemous 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:45.920 for me to say that I feel that this is 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:50.120 the show is just as important? Uh cosby show go ahead? 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:53.640 Can I say that? I think you can. I would 0:06:53.680 --> 0:06:57.760 even say it's more no no, no no, no, no no, that 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.760 we only got deep with like the joint episode. It 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.839 was a different no, it was a different time and 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:07.080 and cos was important. But I think the thing with Cosby. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.520 The different between Cosby and Blackish, and that I see 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:13.320 is that Cosby Show was a show that could have 0:07:13.360 --> 0:07:16.160 been about any family, you know what I'm saying. They 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.320 could have been white, they could have been whatever. But 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.640 Blackish is specifically about a black family, you know what 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:25.000 I mean. And to me, that makes a huge difference. 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:27.400 And I see it in the characters. I mean, my 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.440 kids watch the show and they love it, and they 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:35.080 can it's it's very different. It's very different. Well, I 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:38.760 love it, you know, and I was afraid to say that. 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.920 I've felt that it was not only as important, but 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:47.200 probably more important, more relevant to this generation than way 0:07:47.200 --> 0:07:51.560 more relevant y'all say, more free. So that's a great advantage, think, yeah, 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:53.559 I mean, I think you know this day and time. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.720 I mean, I think with the Cosby Show, it was 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.560 the fact that we had a black family with good jobs, 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:03.320 whole family like that was important to see that, like 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:05.880 I think, and for that to be a pioneer show 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:09.200 like that, that's what made that great, I mean important. 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.640 I guess you could say we're following the same footsteps, 0:08:12.720 --> 0:08:16.520 but I think we tackle harder issues and more relevant 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:20.239 issues that apply to everybody today. Y'all talked to the audience. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.240 I think, yeah, y'all like the whole the scene with 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:29.680 Anthony would Um the Obama where he talked about, you know, 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:34.000 seeing Obama and everybody was every black person was nervous, 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:42.360 Like that was real, this conversation at work. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:45.160 But it's important to show both sides too, you know, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:48.640 not just short from my perspective, that's I think that's 0:08:48.640 --> 0:08:52.040 important with what we do to we also show, you know, 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:55.280 a chick who voted for Trump and why she voted 0:08:55.320 --> 0:08:57.480 for him, you know, in order for people to get 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:01.720 clarity on you know why, you know, people feel as 0:09:01.760 --> 0:09:04.040 though that was the way to go, you know, as 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:07.240 far as voting this concern. So how long have you 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:12.760 been doing comedy about this? October would be twenty four, 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:19.840 twenty five years. What, Yeah, she started back like nine. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:25.120 Where were you born? Chicago? I'm from Chico. Still stay there, yeah, 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:29.000 still yeah. When I ain't filming, I'm always back home. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:32.160 I just left home. I just left home last weekend. 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:36.160 We did a big benefit with Chance. He did like 0:09:36.400 --> 0:09:44.760 thirty thousand backpacks with supplies to kids and you know, right, 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.640 yeah getting there. So yeah, I'm always there. Man, I 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:50.840 was trying to be as active as posible. So I 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:55.360 know that Chicago is, uh, it is a big city 0:09:55.400 --> 0:10:00.720 for comedy because I know that at least of the 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:06.080 SNL alumni or whatnot comes through I guess the Second 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:10.720 City out there absolutely, So did you have to get 0:10:10.720 --> 0:10:14.720 into that fraternity too? Well? Now, because it different for 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.080 black comedians because I don't hear much of black comedians 0:10:18.120 --> 0:10:21.120 going through the Groundlings or no they don't. I mean 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.679 because it's it's a it's a north Side thing in 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.240 the south Side thing. That's that's more like north Side. 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.679 A lot of South Side comics. They come up the 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.760 ranks just doing bars and whatever clubs that they can 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:37.400 or whatever. But we fortunately had the opportunity to go 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.680 through Second City. But we created our own skets troop 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:46.079 call Forgotten City, and we used to perform. Yeah, basically 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.800 because is there a politic game going on in there? 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:52.760 I mean, I'm well, honestly, to be real with you, 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:55.640 I think it's just a lot of cats couldn't afford 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.240 those classes and they couldn't afford to get in there. 0:10:58.280 --> 0:11:01.520 So that's a school. Yeah, at the PA, all of 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.440 those kind of places out of those classes running like, 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:07.240 what's I can tell you because I'm broken I paid 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:13.760 for Yes, I've done like that's why she's so funny. Yeah, 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.800 like it like a good three hundred dollars or something 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:24.200 like that. You see what's it called out here? You? Yeah? Wait, 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:28.880 this is a muppet newsplash. I'm not saying that studios. 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:37.520 So you really fit Philly improv? Really? I mean how 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.480 long it was? It's a program, so it was like 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:42.080 two months. I'm kind of improv theater group too. We 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.000 performed at Relish out in Philly at the eating place. 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:48.200 Yet still to baking. I'm not doing when I'm not 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:51.840 doing question Love Sapareme, I'm working on comedy and writing. Yes, 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:56.520 I did not know this. It's dope. Yeah, I posted 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:01.720 all the time. Well I don't be reading talking at you. Well, 0:12:01.760 --> 0:12:11.320 I don't read question. Yeah, I don't be reading. However, 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.200 this is one of the first shows of our second season, 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.160 and I'm shocked that you haven't said that to you. Well, no, 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:23.040 I haven't really pimped that fact. With all the comedians 0:12:23.120 --> 0:12:26.200 that we had on Funny, I think what we had 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.040 we had Gerard Carmichael on it, who was the other 0:12:28.040 --> 0:12:30.920 comedian that we had Chris Rock. I made a couple 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:34.480 of references and y'all shot me down real fast. I didn't. 0:12:35.320 --> 0:12:36.760 I was very serious, and I was like, oh, I 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:40.080 started sweating and getting nervous, like, oh shit, he just 0:12:40.120 --> 0:12:42.600 shot down my whole dream. I'm out here taking classes 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.720 doing flappers and ship Okay. So as a person that's 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:49.559 that's been in the system. So as a person that's 0:12:49.600 --> 0:12:53.520 been in the system, and you know, I don't I 0:12:53.520 --> 0:12:56.280 don't know if you consider it thriving or just a 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.080 continuing journey. But I mean you you've been on Conan's 0:12:59.080 --> 0:13:03.120 writing staff and that sort of thing, so you utilize 0:13:03.200 --> 0:13:06.080 the education that you got to get to that position. 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:13.640 And like, as a person searching, so what is the 0:13:14.520 --> 0:13:19.760 how does one even get into that world? Okay? First 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:22.600 of you gotta pay. Do they accept anyone well me? 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.600 Well me personally? When it came to us with Second City, 0:13:25.640 --> 0:13:27.320 that was something that we did. We were on our 0:13:27.320 --> 0:13:30.040 own sketches and we did our own shows. So people 0:13:30.040 --> 0:13:33.079 from Second City came and saw us and gave us 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:37.960 a night at their facility to perform our sketches, and 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:39.600 then we used to have people come there and we 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.000 did that for a while after the group broke up. 0:13:42.080 --> 0:13:44.240 Many people were in the truth, it was like nine 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:46.880 of us. Were you the most prominent member? Like, were 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:48.679 there other people there? It was some other Yeah, we 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:51.480 were all equally around across the board as far as 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:54.080 like writing this concern, as far as perform and we 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:57.880 were all equal, I mean the performance wise creatively and 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:01.080 all of that themselves down today that were I mean, 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.559 they're still rocking or whatever, but you know, I don't 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.840 don't know as far as like mainstream wise, but they're 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:08.640 still getting down or whatever. But we broke up on 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:12.199 some true Hollywood ship and what happened it was nine 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:28.560 of you. Yeah, yeah, I was what happened. Man. We 0:14:28.600 --> 0:14:31.800 came out to l A. We showcase for Puffy, and 0:14:32.280 --> 0:14:37.960 we showcase for brill Stein and Gray. We did what 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:41.440 was that? My bad? That was you. I didn't realize 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:48.520 that I was actually watching your was just a weird. Sorry. 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:52.320 So so yes, came out around here, we showcase and 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:54.880 then they signed us and gave us some money. At 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:57.760 think of game. It's like eighties Stacks and our manager 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.440 when the rent limos and had bitches and a kind 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:04.120 of ship. Man. Yeah, it blew our whole fucking thing 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.760 man and then we all broke up after that. Yeah, 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:09.280 it was crazy. So I was already out here at 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.440 that point. No, we just came out here the showcase 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.240 and went back to Chicago. But then I had I 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:18.960 had went through this other showcase called Aspen and ended 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:21.640 up meeting this guy who worked for Conan, and he 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.480 asked me to come on the show and perform as 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.320 a guest, and I went on. As soon as I 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.120 got off stage, Conan asked me to write for him, 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:31.560 like like like two weeks later. I didn't have to 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.920 submit nothing to nothing And what was the time in between? 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.120 How much time in between y'all and that l a 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:40.160 trip and then the Aspen situation that took him, No, 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:45.160 I took about probably about probably about two years after that. Yeah, 0:15:45.360 --> 0:15:47.960 and then I rock with Corner. Anything I have auditioned 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.520 for and I never got even to this day, Like 0:15:50.560 --> 0:15:54.440 with Conan, I've always fun with people, all vibes. People 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:57.560 always been like, Yo, you're a cool motherfucker, let's rock, 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.880 or you're smart, motherfucker, let's rock. And it's always been 0:15:59.920 --> 0:16:03.000 like that, and they've never been like audition for something. 0:16:03.040 --> 0:16:06.040 And I get like with Conan, he just liked me 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:08.560 and told me to show up and I ended up 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.480 writing for him, Like I submitted nothing nothing Blackish. I 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.440 went over there or right, and the guy that well, 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.680 actually it was Charlie Murphy was supposed to be playing 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:20.640 a character that I play on Blackish, and yeah, he 0:16:20.640 --> 0:16:22.760 didn't want to do it. That's why my name Charlie 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.400 on the show. And he didn't. He didn't want to 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:28.600 do it. So I ended up since I was writing 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:30.920 for the character, I knew how the character was gonna 0:16:30.960 --> 0:16:34.320 be and what's and so they had me play that 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:37.040 character once and I ended up getting it. Then I 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.880 got this other show, car and Tribeca with Stephen Correll, 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:44.000 and I was supposed to be the lieutenant on there, 0:16:44.080 --> 0:16:46.800 and Steve didn't want me to be, uh the same, 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:51.960 a black, screaming lieutenant, a cliche lieutenant, so he wrote 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.560 a character for me. I wasn't even in that show 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:56.840 and he just wrote a character for me. So this 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:00.360 has been going on and on my whole career, where 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:04.520 it's just never Yeah, it's never been like anything because 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.439 I think when you audition for ship, they're looking for 0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:09.800 a certain type in their head and you just don't 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:13.479 match what they're looking for. I think because you probably 0:17:13.520 --> 0:17:17.000 saw original so different, they really can't pinpoint you and 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:20.439 ship you know, sou but they but that you dope, 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.439 you know what I mean, And they all remember you 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.280 laid on for some other ship. But so how do 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.680 you make because I mean, of all the the the 0:17:29.800 --> 0:17:35.359 arts that you can be, be acting, musician, chef, I 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:39.320 feel like comedy is one of the hardest things. Like, 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:43.880 at what point are you saying to yourself, I want 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.520 to make it as a comedian or are you even 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:49.280 saying that? Well, me, you originally got into comedy. Someone 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.800 bet you fifty bucks. Yeah, I read that on wiki somewhere. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:56.240 Do But because I never was like, no, no funny motherfucker, 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:58.879 Like I never was like that, Like I never was. 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.160 I always was quiet and kind of have my own 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:05.520 thoughts whatever. I overthought everything though, and I think people 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:08.560 thought that was hilarious and my boy bet meeting on 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.679 stage and I went on there and did it or whatever. 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:12.840 But how many minutes you what was your first joke? 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:17.440 Like four minutes I did joke about Sunny Delight. What 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.280 I just talked about how that motherfucker they was playing 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:24.359 soccer and they all rushed his refrigerator and everybody was 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.800 in his ship, grabbing ship. And I was like that 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:32.720 that couldn't been a black household. And yeah, like Nick's 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:38.080 had to grout of water holes absolutely, because I said 0:18:38.080 --> 0:18:40.520 that was my first joke ever, and I did that 0:18:40.560 --> 0:18:46.720 ship repeatedly ever ever, for like two years straight. You 0:18:46.840 --> 0:18:48.720 just like kept it to the point where mother fuckers 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:56.000 was saying it with me because everybody said the punchline 0:18:56.040 --> 0:19:00.359 with me. That's a funny joke when you people know 0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.200 the joke and they still want to be Yeah. Yeah, 0:19:02.320 --> 0:19:08.240 but but it was hard commercial commercial. Yeah, so is 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.960 it comedy is high? Yeah? I was gonna say, because 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:16.080 you you have to speak two languages. Yeah, Like now, 0:19:16.920 --> 0:19:22.879 is it to the point where that you're juggling, uh 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:28.000 acting you're no with your black audience and also the 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.879 white audiences that come in or did you just immediately 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:36.160 integrate with Uh? What's what's the what's the comedy spot 0:19:36.760 --> 0:19:39.359 that's named after the guy Harry? I don't know if 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:45.120 it's Harry carry spot in Chicago. Um, Uh, it's not 0:19:45.280 --> 0:19:48.879 like Danger Fields, it's it's it's a comedy club and 0:19:49.080 --> 0:20:00.640 his face, this guy's faces the logos, but it's like glasses. Hilarious, hilarious. 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:07.359 In Chicago, there is there's a famous comedy club that 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:14.040 in Chicago. Yeah, it's you're talking about all jokes aside. No, 0:20:14.320 --> 0:20:17.000 it's I was about to say that's back in the 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:22.800 day that was closed. I'm trying to chuck Harry, is 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:26.160 it not Harry, Harry carry ain't opened up. No, goddamn, 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:35.280 all right, this is like bust left breaking news. There's 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:39.800 no place like Okay, whatever, I just he'll come to 0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.320 you when it was all over. Yeah, I had a 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:57.800 bolt two days later. Hilarious. So what was your household like? 0:20:58.720 --> 0:21:08.320 Growing up? Man? Blackest ship only the only child find 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:10.760 out how to half sister later on out a place 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:13.920 that growing up she had passed. But I grew up 0:21:13.960 --> 0:21:17.479 in South Southe Chicago, gang infested all that ship. My 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:20.920 mother moved me. My mother moved me to the suburbs 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:23.840 because she didn't want me to get caught up in 0:21:23.880 --> 0:21:26.880 the games, because my cousins and ship, they was all affiliated. 0:21:26.920 --> 0:21:30.160 So she moved me to the suburbs, which became almost 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:34.119 a culture shot because I ended up fighting more in 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:36.800 the suburbs than in the city, and I was fighting 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:40.199 the one person as the only black person, so I 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:45.960 stopped fighting the whole integration. Yeah, I got out there. 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:49.560 They used to pull their cars on our lawn, spinning tires, 0:21:49.720 --> 0:21:53.159 funk out and I was fucked up. And it was 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:56.320 this family called the Gabarziks and ship they used to 0:21:56.320 --> 0:22:08.760 throw like batteries like Gabarziks used to Yeah, it used 0:22:08.800 --> 0:22:11.359 to be real mess stuff. But I wouldn't have had 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:13.480 it no other way because when I moved out there, 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:17.320 I stopped this this dude name Rich and he used 0:22:17.359 --> 0:22:21.000 to turn me on like Zeppelin and like a whole 0:22:21.000 --> 0:22:24.480 bunch of cool ass rock ship, like like like like 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:29.280 your Floyd and Stones and just and I used to 0:22:29.320 --> 0:22:31.600 teach him. I used to play hip hop for him. 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:33.800 He ain't know ship about hip hop. So me and 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:37.240 him became like real tight because I just hang't out 0:22:37.240 --> 0:22:40.080 with him every day on some cool ship and just 0:22:40.240 --> 0:22:42.280 vibe out with him. And you know, I just learned 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:45.000 a lot and learned how to be you know, like 0:22:46.280 --> 0:22:50.720 in a way not biased, but understand. Me and him 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:54.760 had to understanding that I wish everyone else had, you 0:22:54.800 --> 0:22:58.120 know what that Yeah, and it was and he wasn't 0:22:58.119 --> 0:23:00.199 trying to be black, and I wasn't trying to be right, 0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:03.440 It was just y'all. We were very much interested into 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:07.760 each other's culture. Yeah, so I guess that formed us 0:23:07.800 --> 0:23:12.679 to who we are. You know today, you know what, 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:14.600 I haven't seen Rich and I don't know how long 0:23:14.760 --> 0:23:17.160 or whatever. But back then we used to be trying 0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:24.240 to twitter you like, remember, I don't know where Rich 0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.439 is a bullshit? I wish I did, though, So did 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:31.359 that play kind of a role in developing your comedy? Like? Yeah, 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:33.760 because when they came to write, and I didn't want 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.840 to write just black Ship, you know what I mean? 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.760 I wanted to write that was like for everybody because 0:23:39.800 --> 0:23:42.800 I felt like I would have to do it anyway, 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:45.280 So why would I just why would I bullshit? And 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:48.040 right all black Ship? Now I could just take my time, 0:23:48.160 --> 0:23:51.600 focus and write for everybody right now, right that joke 0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:55.160 for everyone. If it don't work, make that motherfucker work. 0:23:55.240 --> 0:23:58.800 And if it don't leave it alone. Yeah, Well, who's 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:02.119 mentoring you by this sport? Like who's teaching you as 0:24:02.160 --> 0:24:04.960 far as coming after the bet? And you're like, Okay, 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:09.040 I could do this for real? George l Borne, Deal Givings, 0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:13.800 Bernie MacKenny, how Tony Schofield. These are the people that 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.920 that I that mentored me coming up. Steve Harvey used 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.000 to come to Chicago all the time and he used 0:24:19.040 --> 0:24:21.720 to always be there and you know, take me under 0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:24.920 this wing or whatever. But it was it was. It 0:24:25.080 --> 0:24:28.680 was George will Borne and A Dell and like I said, Bernie, 0:24:28.680 --> 0:24:32.320 Bernie had like tough love, but he used to really 0:24:32.359 --> 0:24:34.239 look out for us and like he used to be 0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:36.000 like this used to have this place called the Cotton 0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.720 Club in Chicago. In order for you to follow Bernie, 0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:40.840 I mean, the only way you can get on stage 0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:44.120 is if you can follow Bernie, and Bernie would dismantle 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.360 that motherfucker. You would have to go up at them. 0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:48.800 And if you couldn't do it, you would never play 0:24:48.840 --> 0:24:51.719 that motherfucker again or whatever. But they or they just 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:55.760 be silent. Now they'll be sometimes booze, sometimes silent, whatever. 0:24:55.800 --> 0:24:57.560 But if you was horrible, you just had to get 0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.800 the funk up out of that whatever. But it so great, 0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:02.399 you know, because he used to have a lot of 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.359 people that came there and his night was so great. 0:25:05.400 --> 0:25:08.480 It ended up being a television show called Midnight Mac. 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:12.040 It used to be coming on HBO. Remember that it 0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:13.720 used to be so great. He used to placed a 0:25:14.040 --> 0:25:16.919 place called Miltreineers where he had the dancers and the 0:25:17.000 --> 0:25:19.719 mac dancers dances and the band and yeah, he used 0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:22.560 to have an old show. It came on HBO because 0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:25.200 of the room that we used to do. Phillis himI 0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.720 used to come in there. Used to be crazy, She's 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:30.560 come on stage and just be like, why are you 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:32.600 in the middle of your set? Should just come grab 0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:34.400 the mic and be like, oh, we need to wait 0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.560 yourselver here? Where's this bitch? And didn't get the mic 0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:41.520 back back down, like like you'll be like, who the 0:25:41.520 --> 0:25:43.320 hell are you? Like a lot of people didn't know 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.639 who she was and should be like she'd come up 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:50.440 there like motherfucker's on fire too? Was was? Was Robin 0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:52.960 Harris still around that time? Was just trying to get 0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:55.480 Robin was around at that time too, but he wasn't 0:25:55.520 --> 0:25:57.560 like at the club out there. He was like more 0:25:57.600 --> 0:26:00.480 in l A. He was in l A around that time. 0:26:00.560 --> 0:26:01.960 Did you ever get a chance to see him in 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:05.600 the city or see some of his Harris I never 0:26:05.640 --> 0:26:08.560 even ran in the robbing Harris. I hope never know. 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:11.119 So Bernie was the main about it when you came on, 0:26:11.200 --> 0:26:14.520 Bernie was yeah, Bernie was yeah, that was that was 0:26:14.720 --> 0:26:18.520 motherfucker forever Bernie. Yeah. I wanted a deal to be 0:26:18.680 --> 0:26:21.320 like that. I just wanted her was fired too, man, 0:26:21.480 --> 0:26:23.280 That's what I'm saying. I always wanted her to be bigger. 0:26:23.640 --> 0:26:28.840 From Death Comedy Jam three times was fire. Kenny how 0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:32.400