1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Of Course Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: This classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: What Up, y'all, It's like yeah, And this week's q 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: l S classic guests is actor, writer, and comedian Dion Cole. 5 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Listen as he talks about black is, the art of 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: the Stolen joke and his time writing for Conan and 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: a Tonight Show. You don't want to miss this one. 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you already did, so catch up. This 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: episode originally released September twentie s. Roll Call Supremo, roll 10 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: Call sum roll Call roll is here. Yeah, I won't 11 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: steer you wrong. Yeah. When you cook my right some beans? Yeah, 12 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: the radio better be on. Frema roll call, Frima Prima 13 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: roll Call. My name is Fonte. Watch how I kick it? Yeah? Hey, 14 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: what's up? White girl? Yeah? I got your mere ticket 15 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: Roma Frema roll my name is Sugar. Yeah with the uncle. Yeah, 16 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: full disclosure. Yeah, just smoked a big boy rolla roll call. 17 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: I'm unpaid bill. Yeah, and times is tough. Yeah, what 18 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: has a big dick? Yeah? And hangs up. Roll Call 19 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Sua Suprema roll Call. It's like with the plan, better 20 00:01:59,760 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: watch out, Dion. Yeah, I love me some Diane call. 21 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: My name is de yeah, and I'm with y'all. Yeah, 22 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: I don't rhyme much. Yeah, but who knows that? So 23 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:39,679 Speaker 1: roll call roll hold it, Ladies and gentlemen, check out 24 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: unpaid Bill trying to flex on us. Like of all 25 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: your roll call versus, I thought that was so perfect. 26 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: It was that I felt like you were doing it 27 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: despite us, because you know that we always judge you 28 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: for not being on subject whoever the guest is. But 29 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: I was on subject today. That's amazing, Ladies and gentlemen. 30 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: This is Love Supreme only on Pandora. Welcoming you guys. 31 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: I'm here with teams Supreme, Sigo, Sugar, Steve Equal. It's 32 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna fall out this one over here. Let's just finished 33 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: right now and played through the pain. Okay, but I'm 34 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: paid Bill with his relevant verses, so relevant, and it's 35 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 1: like you name, it's we found it. It's not it's version. 36 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's like my name. We're saying your new 37 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: name on the show is n you know what's funny. 38 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't like, I'll take it. It's a upgrade. No, 39 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: it's like a right, Yeah, I try that once would 40 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: come on from the roots. It was gonna be It's Jimmy, 41 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: but then he became fake Muslims, so then you know 42 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: they were Yeah, that was just name James. Great anyway, 43 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Uh, we are honored today to have 44 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: our guests. I have to say that full disclosure. Uh, 45 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: this is this was a surprise. Uh for a lot 46 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: of us. Happy is a welcome surprise. But we're very 47 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,720 Speaker 1: welcome surprise. Because I wanted to let you know that 48 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: your your your Netflix half hour special on the Stand 49 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: Ups is one of my favorite things ever. Your your 50 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 1: history with Conan. I'm a Conan fan, and you know 51 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: all the things you you were actually writing on the 52 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: tonight show. We were in there. But ladies and gentlemen, 53 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: please from Blackish, from Angie Tribeca. Uh, one of my 54 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: favorite comedians. This is Dion Cole right now, blown away 55 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: right now. We're fans were great man, fans of OD. 56 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: This is great man. I thought Dean Sanders was coming. 57 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, part of me was going to 58 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: is he gonna do it? Must be the money reference. 59 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta let him know, man school, you 60 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 1: know it's yeah, sorry for doing how you doing today. Man, 61 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: I'm man, I'm good man. Just got off works. Was 62 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: about to say, you literally came from the set. Yeah, 63 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: we're shooting Black its man. This is season four, Yeah, 64 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: the season four. Yeah, so I just left to say, 65 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: come on, came on over here, man, you're shooting the 66 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 1: first episode of the season. We're actually on episode four. Okay, yeah, 67 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: studying five. We just got the disclosure were I believe 68 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: that the roots are involved in the premier episode, slavery. 69 00:05:54,680 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 1: It's us Yeah, to say that with such alacrity clarity, 70 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, slavery sitting on the porch. You know that 71 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: makes sense. Okay, yeah, we once words. Thank you. It's 72 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: it's drade. Everybody celebrate. Yea. So what is well? I 73 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,239 Speaker 1: want to know about your your your routine with Black 74 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: is which you know I feel? Is it almost blasphemous 75 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: for me to say that I feel that this is 76 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: the show is just as important? Uh cosby show go ahead? 77 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: Can I say that? I think you can. I would 78 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: even say it's more no no, no no, no, no no, that 79 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: we only got deep with like the joint episode. It 80 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: was a different no, it was a different time and 81 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: and cos was important. But I think the thing with Cosby. 82 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: The different between Cosby and Blackish, and that I see 83 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: is that Cosby Show was a show that could have 84 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: been about any family, you know what I'm saying. They 85 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: could have been white, they could have been whatever. But 86 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: Blackish is specifically about a black family, you know what 87 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean. And to me, that makes a huge difference. 88 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: And I see it in the characters. I mean, my 89 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: kids watch the show and they love it, and they 90 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: can it's it's very different. It's very different. Well, I 91 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: love it, you know, and I was afraid to say that. 92 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: I've felt that it was not only as important, but 93 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: probably more important, more relevant to this generation than way 94 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: more relevant y'all say, more free. So that's a great advantage, think, yeah, 95 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I think you know this day and time. 96 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I think with the Cosby Show, it was 97 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: the fact that we had a black family with good jobs, 98 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: whole family like that was important to see that, like 99 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: I think, and for that to be a pioneer show 100 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: like that, that's what made that great, I mean important. 101 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: I guess you could say we're following the same footsteps, 102 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: but I think we tackle harder issues and more relevant 103 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 1: issues that apply to everybody today. Y'all talked to the audience. 104 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, y'all like the whole the scene with 105 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: Anthony would Um the Obama where he talked about, you know, 106 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: seeing Obama and everybody was every black person was nervous, 107 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: Like that was real, this conversation at work. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. 108 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: But it's important to show both sides too, you know, 109 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: not just short from my perspective, that's I think that's 110 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: important with what we do to we also show, you know, 111 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: a chick who voted for Trump and why she voted 112 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: for him, you know, in order for people to get 113 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: clarity on you know why, you know, people feel as 114 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: though that was the way to go, you know, as 115 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: far as voting this concern. So how long have you 116 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: been doing comedy about this? October would be twenty four, 117 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: twenty five years. What, Yeah, she started back like nine. 118 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: Where were you born? Chicago? I'm from Chico. Still stay there, yeah, 119 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 1: still yeah. When I ain't filming, I'm always back home. 120 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: I just left home. I just left home last weekend. 121 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 1: We did a big benefit with Chance. He did like 122 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: thirty thousand backpacks with supplies to kids and you know, right, 123 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: yeah getting there. So yeah, I'm always there. Man, I 124 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: was trying to be as active as posible. So I 125 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: know that Chicago is, uh, it is a big city 126 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: for comedy because I know that at least of the 127 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: SNL alumni or whatnot comes through I guess the Second 128 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: City out there absolutely, So did you have to get 129 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: into that fraternity too? Well? Now, because it different for 130 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: black comedians because I don't hear much of black comedians 131 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: going through the Groundlings or no they don't. I mean 132 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: because it's it's a it's a north Side thing in 133 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: the south Side thing. That's that's more like north Side. 134 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 1: A lot of South Side comics. They come up the 135 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: ranks just doing bars and whatever clubs that they can 136 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: or whatever. But we fortunately had the opportunity to go 137 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: through Second City. But we created our own skets troop 138 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: call Forgotten City, and we used to perform. Yeah, basically 139 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: because is there a politic game going on in there? 140 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm well, honestly, to be real with you, 141 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: I think it's just a lot of cats couldn't afford 142 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: those classes and they couldn't afford to get in there. 143 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: So that's a school. Yeah, at the PA, all of 144 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: those kind of places out of those classes running like, 145 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: what's I can tell you because I'm broken I paid 146 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: for Yes, I've done like that's why she's so funny. Yeah, 147 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: like it like a good three hundred dollars or something 148 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: like that. You see what's it called out here? You? Yeah? Wait, 149 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: this is a muppet newsplash. I'm not saying that studios. 150 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: So you really fit Philly improv? Really? I mean how 151 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: long it was? It's a program, so it was like 152 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: two months. I'm kind of improv theater group too. We 153 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: performed at Relish out in Philly at the eating place. 154 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: Yet still to baking. I'm not doing when I'm not 155 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: doing question Love Sapareme, I'm working on comedy and writing. Yes, 156 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: I did not know this. It's dope. Yeah, I posted 157 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: all the time. Well I don't be reading talking at you. Well, 158 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: I don't read question. Yeah, I don't be reading. However, 159 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: this is one of the first shows of our second season, 160 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: and I'm shocked that you haven't said that to you. Well, no, 161 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: I haven't really pimped that fact. With all the comedians 162 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: that we had on Funny, I think what we had 163 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: we had Gerard Carmichael on it, who was the other 164 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: comedian that we had Chris Rock. I made a couple 165 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: of references and y'all shot me down real fast. I didn't. 166 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: I was very serious, and I was like, oh, I 167 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: started sweating and getting nervous, like, oh shit, he just 168 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: shot down my whole dream. I'm out here taking classes 169 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: doing flappers and ship Okay. So as a person that's 170 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: that's been in the system. So as a person that's 171 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: been in the system, and you know, I don't I 172 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: don't know if you consider it thriving or just a 173 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: continuing journey. But I mean you you've been on Conan's 174 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: writing staff and that sort of thing, so you utilize 175 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: the education that you got to get to that position. 176 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: And like, as a person searching, so what is the 177 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: how does one even get into that world? Okay? First 178 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: of you gotta pay. Do they accept anyone well me? 179 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: Well me personally? When it came to us with Second City, 180 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: that was something that we did. We were on our 181 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: own sketches and we did our own shows. So people 182 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: from Second City came and saw us and gave us 183 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: a night at their facility to perform our sketches, and 184 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: then we used to have people come there and we 185 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: did that for a while after the group broke up. 186 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: Many people were in the truth, it was like nine 187 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: of us. Were you the most prominent member? Like, were 188 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 1: there other people there? It was some other Yeah, we 189 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 1: were all equally around across the board as far as 190 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: like writing this concern, as far as perform and we 191 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: were all equal, I mean the performance wise creatively and 192 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 1: all of that themselves down today that were I mean, 193 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: they're still rocking or whatever, but you know, I don't 194 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: don't know as far as like mainstream wise, but they're 195 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: still getting down or whatever. But we broke up on 196 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: some true Hollywood ship and what happened it was nine 197 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, yeah, I was what happened. Man. We 198 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: came out to l A. We showcase for Puffy, and 199 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: we showcase for brill Stein and Gray. We did what 200 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: was that? My bad? That was you. I didn't realize 201 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: that I was actually watching your was just a weird. Sorry. 202 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: So so yes, came out around here, we showcase and 203 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: then they signed us and gave us some money. At 204 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: think of game. It's like eighties Stacks and our manager 205 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: when the rent limos and had bitches and a kind 206 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: of ship. Man. Yeah, it blew our whole fucking thing 207 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: man and then we all broke up after that. Yeah, 208 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: it was crazy. So I was already out here at 209 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: that point. No, we just came out here the showcase 210 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: and went back to Chicago. But then I had I 211 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,960 Speaker 1: had went through this other showcase called Aspen and ended 212 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: up meeting this guy who worked for Conan, and he 213 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: asked me to come on the show and perform as 214 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: a guest, and I went on. As soon as I 215 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 1: got off stage, Conan asked me to write for him, 216 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: like like like two weeks later. I didn't have to 217 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: submit nothing to nothing And what was the time in between? 218 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: How much time in between y'all and that l a 219 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: trip and then the Aspen situation that took him, No, 220 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: I took about probably about probably about two years after that. Yeah, 221 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: and then I rock with Corner. Anything I have auditioned 222 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: for and I never got even to this day, Like 223 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 1: with Conan, I've always fun with people, all vibes. People 224 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: always been like, Yo, you're a cool motherfucker, let's rock, 225 00:15:57,640 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: or you're smart, motherfucker, let's rock. And it's always been 226 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: like that, and they've never been like audition for something. 227 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: And I get like with Conan, he just liked me 228 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: and told me to show up and I ended up 229 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: writing for him, Like I submitted nothing nothing Blackish. I 230 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: went over there or right, and the guy that well, 231 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 1: actually it was Charlie Murphy was supposed to be playing 232 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: a character that I play on Blackish, and yeah, he 233 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: didn't want to do it. That's why my name Charlie 234 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: on the show. And he didn't. He didn't want to 235 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: do it. So I ended up since I was writing 236 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: for the character, I knew how the character was gonna 237 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: be and what's and so they had me play that 238 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: character once and I ended up getting it. Then I 239 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 1: got this other show, car and Tribeca with Stephen Correll, 240 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: and I was supposed to be the lieutenant on there, 241 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: and Steve didn't want me to be, uh the same, 242 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: a black, screaming lieutenant, a cliche lieutenant, so he wrote 243 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: a character for me. I wasn't even in that show 244 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: and he just wrote a character for me. So this 245 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: has been going on and on my whole career, where 246 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: it's just never Yeah, it's never been like anything because 247 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: I think when you audition for ship, they're looking for 248 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: a certain type in their head and you just don't 249 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,479 Speaker 1: match what they're looking for. I think because you probably 250 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: saw original so different, they really can't pinpoint you and 251 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: ship you know, sou but they but that you dope, 252 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, And they all remember you 253 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: laid on for some other ship. But so how do 254 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: you make because I mean, of all the the the 255 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: arts that you can be, be acting, musician, chef, I 256 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: feel like comedy is one of the hardest things. Like, 257 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: at what point are you saying to yourself, I want 258 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: to make it as a comedian or are you even 259 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: saying that? Well, me, you originally got into comedy. Someone 260 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: bet you fifty bucks. Yeah, I read that on wiki somewhere. 261 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: Do But because I never was like, no, no funny motherfucker, 262 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: Like I never was like that, Like I never was. 263 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: I always was quiet and kind of have my own 264 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: thoughts whatever. I overthought everything though, and I think people 265 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: thought that was hilarious and my boy bet meeting on 266 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 1: stage and I went on there and did it or whatever. 267 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: But how many minutes you what was your first joke? 268 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: Like four minutes I did joke about Sunny Delight. What 269 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: I just talked about how that motherfucker they was playing 270 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: soccer and they all rushed his refrigerator and everybody was 271 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: in his ship, grabbing ship. And I was like that 272 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 1: that couldn't been a black household. And yeah, like Nick's 273 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: had to grout of water holes absolutely, because I said 274 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: that was my first joke ever, and I did that 275 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: ship repeatedly ever ever, for like two years straight. You 276 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: just like kept it to the point where mother fuckers 277 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: was saying it with me because everybody said the punchline 278 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: with me. That's a funny joke when you people know 279 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: the joke and they still want to be Yeah. Yeah, 280 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: but but it was hard commercial commercial. Yeah, so is 281 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: it comedy is high? Yeah? I was gonna say, because 282 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: you you have to speak two languages. Yeah, Like now, 283 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: is it to the point where that you're juggling, uh 284 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: acting you're no with your black audience and also the 285 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: white audiences that come in or did you just immediately 286 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: integrate with Uh? What's what's the what's the comedy spot 287 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: that's named after the guy Harry? I don't know if 288 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: it's Harry carry spot in Chicago. Um, Uh, it's not 289 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: like Danger Fields, it's it's it's a comedy club and 290 00:19:49,080 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: his face, this guy's faces the logos, but it's like glasses. Hilarious, hilarious. 291 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:07,359 Speaker 1: In Chicago, there is there's a famous comedy club that 292 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: in Chicago. Yeah, it's you're talking about all jokes aside. No, 293 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: it's I was about to say that's back in the 294 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: day that was closed. I'm trying to chuck Harry, is 295 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: it not Harry, Harry carry ain't opened up. No, goddamn, 296 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: all right, this is like bust left breaking news. There's 297 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: no place like Okay, whatever, I just he'll come to 298 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: you when it was all over. Yeah, I had a 299 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: bolt two days later. Hilarious. So what was your household like? 300 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: Growing up? Man? Blackest ship only the only child find 301 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: out how to half sister later on out a place 302 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: that growing up she had passed. But I grew up 303 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,479 Speaker 1: in South Southe Chicago, gang infested all that ship. My 304 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 1: mother moved me. My mother moved me to the suburbs 305 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: because she didn't want me to get caught up in 306 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: the games, because my cousins and ship, they was all affiliated. 307 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: So she moved me to the suburbs, which became almost 308 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: a culture shot because I ended up fighting more in 309 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: the suburbs than in the city, and I was fighting 310 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: the one person as the only black person, so I 311 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 1: stopped fighting the whole integration. Yeah, I got out there. 312 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: They used to pull their cars on our lawn, spinning tires, 313 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: funk out and I was fucked up. And it was 314 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: this family called the Gabarziks and ship they used to 315 00:21:56,320 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: throw like batteries like Gabarziks used to Yeah, it used 316 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: to be real mess stuff. But I wouldn't have had 317 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: it no other way because when I moved out there, 318 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: I stopped this this dude name Rich and he used 319 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: to turn me on like Zeppelin and like a whole 320 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: bunch of cool ass rock ship, like like like like 321 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: your Floyd and Stones and just and I used to 322 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: teach him. I used to play hip hop for him. 323 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: He ain't know ship about hip hop. So me and 324 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: him became like real tight because I just hang't out 325 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 1: with him every day on some cool ship and just 326 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,280 Speaker 1: vibe out with him. And you know, I just learned 327 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 1: a lot and learned how to be you know, like 328 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: in a way not biased, but understand. Me and him 329 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: had to understanding that I wish everyone else had, you 330 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: know what that Yeah, and it was and he wasn't 331 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: trying to be black, and I wasn't trying to be right, 332 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: It was just y'all. We were very much interested into 333 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: each other's culture. Yeah, so I guess that formed us 334 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,679 Speaker 1: to who we are. You know today, you know what, 335 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: I haven't seen Rich and I don't know how long 336 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: or whatever. But back then we used to be trying 337 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: to twitter you like, remember, I don't know where Rich 338 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: is a bullshit? I wish I did, though, So did 339 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 1: that play kind of a role in developing your comedy? Like? Yeah, 340 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: because when they came to write, and I didn't want 341 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: to write just black Ship, you know what I mean? 342 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to write that was like for everybody because 343 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: I felt like I would have to do it anyway, 344 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: So why would I just why would I bullshit? And 345 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: right all black Ship? Now I could just take my time, 346 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: focus and write for everybody right now, right that joke 347 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: for everyone. If it don't work, make that motherfucker work. 348 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: And if it don't leave it alone. Yeah, Well, who's 349 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: mentoring you by this sport? Like who's teaching you as 350 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: far as coming after the bet? And you're like, Okay, 351 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: I could do this for real? George l Borne, Deal Givings, 352 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 1: Bernie MacKenny, how Tony Schofield. These are the people that 353 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: that I that mentored me coming up. Steve Harvey used 354 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: to come to Chicago all the time and he used 355 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: to always be there and you know, take me under 356 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: this wing or whatever. But it was it was. It 357 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: was George will Borne and A Dell and like I said, Bernie, 358 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: Bernie had like tough love, but he used to really 359 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,239 Speaker 1: look out for us and like he used to be 360 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: like this used to have this place called the Cotton 361 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: Club in Chicago. In order for you to follow Bernie, 362 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: I mean, the only way you can get on stage 363 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: is if you can follow Bernie, and Bernie would dismantle 364 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: that motherfucker. You would have to go up at them. 365 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: And if you couldn't do it, you would never play 366 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,719 Speaker 1: that motherfucker again or whatever. But they or they just 367 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: be silent. Now they'll be sometimes booze, sometimes silent, whatever. 368 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: But if you was horrible, you just had to get 369 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: the funk up out of that whatever. But it so great, 370 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: you know, because he used to have a lot of 371 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 1: people that came there and his night was so great. 372 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: It ended up being a television show called Midnight Mac. 373 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: It used to be coming on HBO. Remember that it 374 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: used to be so great. He used to placed a 375 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 1: place called Miltreineers where he had the dancers and the 376 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,719 Speaker 1: mac dancers dances and the band and yeah, he used 377 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: to have an old show. It came on HBO because 378 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: of the room that we used to do. Phillis himI 379 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: used to come in there. Used to be crazy, She's 380 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: come on stage and just be like, why are you 381 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: in the middle of your set? Should just come grab 382 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,400 Speaker 1: the mic and be like, oh, we need to wait 383 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: yourselver here? Where's this bitch? And didn't get the mic 384 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: back back down, like like you'll be like, who the 385 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: hell are you? Like a lot of people didn't know 386 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,639 Speaker 1: who she was and should be like she'd come up 387 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: there like motherfucker's on fire too? Was was? Was Robin 388 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: Harris still around that time? Was just trying to get 389 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: Robin was around at that time too, but he wasn't 390 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: like at the club out there. He was like more 391 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: in l A. He was in l A around that time. 392 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 1: Did you ever get a chance to see him in 393 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: the city or see some of his Harris I never 394 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: even ran in the robbing Harris. I hope never know. 395 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: So Bernie was the main about it when you came on, 396 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: Bernie was yeah, Bernie was yeah, that was that was 397 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: motherfucker forever Bernie. Yeah. I wanted a deal to be 398 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: like that. I just wanted her was fired too, man, 399 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I always wanted her to be bigger. 400 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: From Death Comedy Jam three times was fire. Kenny how 401 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: I was fired too. Kenny was a monster on the road. 402 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't didn't want to follow Kenny 403 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 1: how To. He was he was a beast. So so 404 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: back then, I mean, was your aspiration two Eventually, like 405 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: one day I'll get on Death cham or I mean 406 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Death Death Comedy Jam or um. Like I'm sure earlier 407 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: you had to choose what circuit you were going to do. 408 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: And I don't know what the chipling circuit is for 409 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: black comics versus mainstream comics. You know where It's like 410 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: in New York. If you start working out at Boston 411 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: Comedy Club or catch a rising star, chances are you 412 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 1: might hit that mainstream you know lane. But there's also 413 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: the danger being stuck in the kind of the black 414 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 1: lane that doesn't allow you to go outside of Yeah, no, 415 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: you can get you can get caught on the South 416 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: side of Chicago doing bar at the bar, at the bar, 417 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: and then next thing, you know, all your material is 418 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: is geared towards who's the next bit walking in the door, 419 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: and that would be your whole set. But also do this. 420 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: But then you had to take your own initiative and go. 421 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: Like I said in the get Go, if you're gonna 422 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: write a joke and you're thinking about being around for 423 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: a while, you're gonna write a joke that's for everybody 424 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: at that time. So it was important for me to 425 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: hang out up north and do stuff up North and 426 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: north side of Chicago. It was predominantly white or whatever, 427 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: and I mean where it was white and uh, you know, 428 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: keep your chops up like that or whatever, because yeah, 429 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: it would be hard to get I mean, it would 430 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: be easy for you to get caught up into that 431 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: chipless So for your creative process, um, how do you developed? 432 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: How do you develop or protect a joke or an idea? 433 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: So say like ninety four, what was popping? Okay, it's 434 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: o J time, and so I'm certain that there's seven 435 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: of you at your particular spot that are like trying 436 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: to figure out what your angle it's going to be 437 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: on O J. R Now, I'm always certain that like Chappelle, 438 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: for instance, mainly works at like five secret spots that 439 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: he knows that Hollywood writers won't be at like he 440 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: won't do no l A spots because he's afraid that. 441 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: He said that some of his jokes mild le one 442 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: Family Guy, Yeah, mine too. I had a joke called 443 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 1: balls Date that I used to do that the Cleveland show. 444 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: Balls Date to have a joke. You can look at 445 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: it on the internet. While talk about I'll talk about 446 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: Wesley Pipes the poem. He talk about how he'd be 447 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: talking when he'd be fucking how he'd just he's a 448 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: real person, Yeah, he got his but he'd be talking 449 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: to women crazy, when he'd be hitting touching me. Yeah, 450 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: he'd be like, come on, don't make me look bad, 451 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: bit doing like may He'd be saying outland this ship. 452 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: And so I was talking about how he was talking 453 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: a woman to go balls deep or whatever. And next 454 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: thing I know, I said a few years later, she 455 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: was on Family Guy a whole song about it. Yeah, 456 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: because when Tyre when Tyra Banks came on our show, 457 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: we did balls Deep as her walk on because Junior 458 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: sing that's so Then I have a whole skin about 459 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: balls deep and I used to do that ship all 460 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: the time. So how do you protect that? How do 461 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: you There's really no way to protect it. Basically, you 462 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: you have to I mean, like, that's why I don't 463 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: like to cliche ship, you know what I mean? Because 464 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: I know if I think of something that easy is 465 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: seventeen million other casts that's gonna be thinking the same thing. 466 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 1: So I try to stay away from ship like that 467 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: unless I have a very unique perspective on it or whatever. 468 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: Other than that. The way that I think, in the 469 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: way my delivery is I try to make it where 470 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: you can't even you can't even twist that joke. You 471 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: can't even make it yours in the sense you know, 472 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: you could probably take it and do a rendition of it, 473 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: but you will never deliver it with my cadence or whatever. 474 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: You know, but you can take it and you can 475 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: get another idea from it, like and make a song. 476 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: Yes she can so, because I didn't think to write 477 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: a song. So how do you feel, I mean, do 478 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: you just like saying well to the to the other 479 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: writers who did do that. Basically you just look at it, 480 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: like you know, you believe in yourself and gold for 481 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: those who stole you know, I'll make up some more. So, 482 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you confront Is there a confrontation 483 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: method or whatever? Like if you hear your joke, you 484 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: just have to approach that person if you hear him 485 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: say it. If you had a situation where it's like yeah, 486 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: at what time, I was in St. Louis with Kenny 487 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: How and Kenny had like nine dudes with him and 488 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: I ain't know nothing them. I just knew Kenny and 489 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 1: we walked in this comedy club and this dude was 490 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: actually doing my balls deep joke for line for line, 491 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: and when he got off stage, like confront of them, 492 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: like why would you do that? Like that's taking money 493 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 1: on my pocket. Now about if I come down here 494 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: and I have to do that joke, everybody gonna think 495 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: that I instill Joe ship when you're steal in mind 496 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: and he's sitting up like, yo, man, I ain't still 497 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: your joke, and I'm like you did, Like I'm like 498 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm gready like put hands on this mother. They talked 499 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: about this on how we'd string all the time, about 500 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: all the time, and how Bill Man was my man 501 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: building died the comedian and everybody's like one of them, dude. 502 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: It's it's a lot of it's a lot of motherfucker's 503 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: out here. Some of your favorite comedians to be out 504 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: motherfucker's jokes because they know that the last dream. Yeah, 505 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: ain't nobody gonna tellt them. Then people don't think that 506 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: you're jokes. That's why I member, I did another joke 507 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,400 Speaker 1: on my special when somebody was telling me somebody it 508 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: was somebody else joke, and I'm like, no, motherfucker, you 509 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: don't know who did it first, you know what I mean? 510 00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: I did that ship first, you know. So it's that 511 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: kind of the danger of working and stuff out in 512 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: clubs and stuff like that. It is the thing because 513 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: sometimes you'll show up and there'll be nine comics in 514 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: the back of the room just sitting there, you know, 515 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: and they'll be watching you work out. Some of them 516 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: will come up to you and be like, yo, I 517 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: gotta tag for you. Let me help you and give 518 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: you a bit of something, and that be cool when 519 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: they do that ship, but the other ones they just 520 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 1: be mad quiet, go home and write something similar to 521 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: that ship or you know whatever, and now they got 522 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: a hot fucking twenty minutes and ship you ain't never 523 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: you never see them work out needed. So when you 524 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: say attack, what does that mean in comedy terms? I 525 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: mean like if I if I do a joke and 526 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: it's okay, but you thought of something clever, you can 527 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: come up to me and be like, Yo, that was funny, 528 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: but at this on that and oh yeah great, you 529 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:19,040 Speaker 1: know what does Brennan Brennan Brennan is the king of 530 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,040 Speaker 1: walking up to since, Yo, why don't you and say 531 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: it like that? And then I'll see that happen. Neil 532 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: is my dude when it comes to right. And Neil 533 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: had a room here on Sunday nights. Man, when we'll 534 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: go up in there and work out on ship and 535 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,680 Speaker 1: always constantly having fresh ship, always working our ship. Well, 536 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: come up to you on a heartbeat. He'll do it 537 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: before he even go on. Like if you before him 538 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: and you get all stage and heat next he'll tell 539 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: your tag on your ship and then go do his ship. 540 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 1: You know, like that's wanted to coach, you know what 541 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean? Like, yeah, Neil is the monster with that. Yeah, 542 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: shout out to Meil. So how long did you stay 543 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: in Chicago before you broke out? I don't know to 544 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: New York or l A, like we're you and I 545 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: when I came out here, like in two thousand and seven, 546 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: it's been like ten years. But when I first came 547 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 1: out here, it was I used to like hate it, 548 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: Like was it like starting over again or no, because 549 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,120 Speaker 1: everybody knew in the comedy world. They knew as far 550 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: as black comics. They knew exactly who I was, and 551 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: they and they gave me, you know, the proper do 552 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: or whatever. But it just was so lame out here. 553 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: To me. I was just like these my lame this ship, 554 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 1: lame fuck this ship. This is then like Chicago, and 555 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: I always be hauling at Chicago ship. And then one 556 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: day this comedian they Dominique, saw me in front of 557 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: the Comedy Still and I was like, these lame motherfucker's 558 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: out here, fun this ship, this they like Chicago. She 559 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: was like, we'll go home, nigger yeah. And I was like, well, 560 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: she was like that's all I have here here. You 561 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 1: talk about the Chicago this and that in hw l A, 562 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: this this. She was like, l A was this way 563 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: before you came out here, It's gonna be this way 564 00:34:58,200 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 1: when you leave. She was like, you either play the 565 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,839 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna take you. That's all, motherfucker. I don't 566 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: know why that stuck with me, but that was that 567 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: big that my career shifted. I think a month two 568 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: months after that, I got Coner. Yea, so all right, 569 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,920 Speaker 1: and I'm glad you're here. I want to have the 570 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:24,359 Speaker 1: l A rabbit hole discussion. I mean, I'm always hearing 571 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: people like, man, I can't you know Ellie's mad phone email, 572 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: Eli's you know what? Am I missing the memo? Like? 573 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: Am I the only one that enjoys Los Angeles? Now? 574 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: Your experience different than the average? No, but here it 575 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: is Los Angeles to me. Like I said, now, I 576 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed Los Angeles. At that time, I was comparing apples 577 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: to oranges in a sense. And as far as my 578 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: career is concerned, once I switched, my mind stayed around, 579 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 1: understood exactly what I needed to do and to do it. 580 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: Then after that everything became easy and it became something 581 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I get it. This is just 582 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: another planet out here, just like New York is another 583 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: planet to me. But are you are you judging from 584 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: a perspective? Okay, so from a musical perspective, like I 585 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: know that um. In the jazz world, New York jazz 586 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: musicians used to always look down on the l A 587 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: jazz musicians and actually music New York session musicians used 588 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: to always look down on l A session musicians because 589 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 1: it was just a different type. They were more easy going, 590 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: like a lot of that yacht rocky here, like the 591 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: sound of Toto, that's smooth, Michael McDonald's stuff. It's you know, 592 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: it's like and it represents what l A is about, 593 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: a breezy, sunshine sort of state of mind, which is 594 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: less gritty and roll than what what's on the East Coast. 595 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 1: So you're saying that is it the level of comedy 596 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: out here or just but a comedy. I'm from the Midwest, 597 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: where what we talked about is real blue collar ship, 598 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: and this is what it is when you're going to 599 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: the East coast. East Coast comics talk about different stuff, 600 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,399 Speaker 1: and I'm talking about the majority. Ain't saying all of them, 601 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: but they would do more Haitian jokes. So they'll do 602 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 1: jokes about doms, Domnicans or some ship you know, each 603 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: comic or go on stags and they'll have their Dominican 604 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,360 Speaker 1: or Chinese man or Puerto Rican ship. You come to 605 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 1: l A. Everybody had a you know, audition joke, how 606 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,759 Speaker 1: the women are the cars of the weed. It's always that, 607 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 1: you know, And where I was from, we would look 608 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: at all of that and we would we had all 609 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: of that, so we were more well rounded, I think, 610 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: you know, as far as our experiences and our environment 611 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 1: or whatever. So I think that's why, Um, when I 612 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: came out here, I was more disappointed at the time, 613 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: but then I realized that that's what know. They only 614 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: know what they know, and I started embracing what they 615 00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 1: knew and started liking what they was doing, and then 616 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: started incorporating some of these stories in the mind's situation. 617 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: It's by being a fish out of water, you know 618 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 1: what I mean? And how did you know when it 619 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: was I didn't know it was time you tried. Yeah. Yeah, 620 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: But it's cool though. I mean, you know, sometimes I 621 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: put myself in tripped out situations in order to write 622 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 1: because it is such a difference. Like I'm from d C. 623 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 1: So it is like a culture coming. I'll go to 624 00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,279 Speaker 1: a dog race and just sit there just the right 625 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,280 Speaker 1: The only nick is sitting in there, just looking around. 626 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: The dumb and ship ever, but I got a hot 627 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,799 Speaker 1: for team when I leave it. So all right, your 628 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 1: een a dog right in your mind? In your mind 629 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: is having a hot twenty? Is there a pressure to 630 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,759 Speaker 1: refurbish it every month? Oh? Absolutely you have to. I 631 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: I try to refresh your refreshing every year. But I 632 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: tried to move out. And how hard is it to 633 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 1: let go of your gym? Oh my god? Because like, 634 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: and again, I'm not a comedian, but I know that 635 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: as a DJ, I know that these three songs they're 636 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: gonna work, like you know, but then it's like yeah, 637 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 1: but then it's like one I made like my ninth appearance, 638 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: and people know, like, oh, he's about to play poison, 639 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: Like they know what I'm gonna do, and it's and 640 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: it's so one of the hardest things for me to do. 641 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: In December, I always take like my most popular joints 642 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: and just raise them out to set and I gotta 643 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,480 Speaker 1: start all over again. So how do you how you 644 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 1: know it's the same way, like you you it's so 645 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: hard to get rid of those gems. But then again, 646 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: it goes back to trusting yourself. You have to like 647 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: when people steal your jokes, you have to go all right. Well, 648 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: you know I'm gonna write another. You know, somebody asked 649 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 1: me one time in the interview that was like, what's 650 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: your favorite joke? And I was like, I ain't wrote 651 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,759 Speaker 1: it yet. I really don't figure that. I'd always keep 652 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: that in mind. I haven't wrote that motherfucker yet. And 653 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: so I constantly am in mode of being a sponge. 654 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: I'm not no silly dude like that, but I'm always 655 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,439 Speaker 1: paying attention to anything and everything that happened in order 656 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: for me to constantly have that kind of material. So 657 00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: the times that we live in right now, in two 658 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 1: and which um news is constantly changing, we're living we're 659 00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: living in a time period in which you literally won't 660 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: be all that surprise if you're going to be told 661 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: we're about to have a nuclear war. Yes, um, it's 662 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: now to the point that if a riot breaks out 663 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: in a certain place, you're not all that surprise if wait, wait, 664 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,399 Speaker 1: wait it's a riot breaking down, Yes there is right now, 665 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:08,760 Speaker 1: and where he pointed to, when let's roll, that's glad 666 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: we did this practice run. Now we know I'm about 667 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 1: to say, like, I don't know what your your partner 668 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: in case goes down like he's a guy's signal that man, 669 00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: let's let's go. I grabbed because after your sheat screamed. Anyway, 670 00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:35,399 Speaker 1: my my point is that, um it's like, my point 671 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: is that I've been spending like the last month or 672 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: so observing all the comics that have been coming through 673 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: um Chappelle's residency at Radio City. Now some of them 674 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 1: have been complaining. You know. The thing is like, when 675 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: you're at Radio City, you want to put your best 676 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,520 Speaker 1: foot forward, you know, because Dave has hot lineups and 677 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,480 Speaker 1: you know all the celebrities in there, and so you 678 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,840 Speaker 1: want to put your best foot for it. But then 679 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: like a lot of them are getting mysed because it's 680 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: like damn Trump changing the news again, making this joke irrelevant. Now, 681 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta scrap my my thirty minutes set 682 00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 1: and reset it for exactly And it's not so I'm 683 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 1: saying that, you know, I know that in bad times, 684 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 1: the worst that times are, the better is for comedians 685 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,080 Speaker 1: at least have subject mattered to to make fun of it. 686 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 1: But because the times we live in so unprecedented, unprecedented 687 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: with with constantly changing news, how does that affect you 688 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: as that hot twenty Like I said, before. I can't 689 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: write a lot of just ship this in your face 690 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 1: because it's too easy and it's too easy, and I 691 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: think everybody else is gonna write something that easy. So 692 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of current topical material. Like, 693 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: so you don't do much crowd work, That's what I mean. 694 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,160 Speaker 1: I do sometimes, but I'm not, I'm not. I'm not 695 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: based on that. I don't like to get an audience 696 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: what they want. I'm a type of comic where you 697 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,399 Speaker 1: have to you have to come into my world, you know, 698 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: And once you in my world, then I can go 699 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: wherever with you. But if I keep giving you what 700 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: you want, then I'm a slave to you, and then 701 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: you're they're getting fed what you eat and what you expect. 702 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: The way you describe the r like the kind of 703 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: way you talk about the comedy is the same way 704 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: I think about rhymen. You know what I'm saying. Because 705 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: it's like you can't almost yeah, Like you can't write 706 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: like if you try to write about, okay, what happened 707 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,359 Speaker 1: on love and hip hop this week, and you try 708 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,840 Speaker 1: to put that and make that a punch line or whatever, 709 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: that ship is old. So you have to write about 710 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,680 Speaker 1: like things that are universal, like things that are timeless 711 00:43:54,000 --> 00:44:02,800 Speaker 1: balls deepest universal balls. So let me ask, because, Um, 712 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 1: when I watched the Netflix special, I was so happy 713 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: because one of my I hate this moment. It's like, 714 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: like you ever hate, like when someone wants to tell 715 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: you who they you remind them of, like no one wanted, 716 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: no one weren't, Like I mean, is the king of 717 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,439 Speaker 1: letting you know who you look like and you don't 718 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: look like her like at all, as long as they 719 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: like legendary or something. The reason why I loved your 720 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:41,759 Speaker 1: Netflix special was that you kind of you kind of 721 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 1: did this this this random, non secretive thing that one 722 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 1: of my favorite comedians, Mitch Hedberg, was the king of 723 00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 1: where you just had all these random asides that weren't 724 00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, it weren't. It wasn't of a time p 725 00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: it it was about you. But it's just you just 726 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: going through a list of things. And you know, since 727 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: Mitch Hedberg has has passed away, Stephen what's his name, 728 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: Stephen right, Stephen Wright was sort of in that lane 729 00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: where like he would just let time go by, yeah 730 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,120 Speaker 1: and then say something, And I was like, I always 731 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: wanted to know, Like I cannot wait for a black 732 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: comedian to take that lean. You took that lean, so 733 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: thank you. I think I think I think it's I 734 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: think the rhythm is no rhythm, you know, And and 735 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: that's that's the way that I leoked at it as 736 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,239 Speaker 1: far as approaching and I felt the lack of rhythm, 737 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: it is groovy, you know what I mean? It was 738 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: like silence is good too, because a lot of people 739 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: don't trust silence, and let like, how do you? How 740 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,239 Speaker 1: do you do? That is just as great as applause 741 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: because it lets you know that you have them and 742 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: unless them, let you know that they're paying attention. And 743 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,959 Speaker 1: then and then also you can guide them wherever you want. 744 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: You can make a left of right, you can bag 745 00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 1: up whatever you want to do at that moment. And 746 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: you need to test that throughout your sets that you 747 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 1: need to be quiet sometime just to see where they're 748 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,760 Speaker 1: at and then also to get your your thoughts together. 749 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: Well you know, but but in experimenting, how do you 750 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,800 Speaker 1: what happens if you get turbulence in your set and 751 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,800 Speaker 1: you knew that didn't work, but you don't want to 752 00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,919 Speaker 1: give it away that there have that joke didn't work 753 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: you just like for me, personally, anytime I do a 754 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: joke that don't work, I purposely do it in front 755 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 1: of a joke that I know it's gonna work. So 756 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,880 Speaker 1: I'll do this, but I know I got this fire 757 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: one coming next, or I'll do a fire one first, 758 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,400 Speaker 1: or I'll put it in between two. Yeah, I sound 759 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: with you, between two in order to give it the 760 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,359 Speaker 1: legs that it need at just in case it doesn't work. 761 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna put that right between two great ass jokes, 762 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,440 Speaker 1: you know. So it's an example for you of a 763 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,360 Speaker 1: joke that you were unsure of or something that for 764 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,560 Speaker 1: you that it's something that you had to joke. I 765 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: had this joke that I and me. Also, another thing 766 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: that I do is funny. It's funny regardless. And I 767 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: learned this from Conan that you know, every moment can't 768 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,520 Speaker 1: be magical. If it was, then we wouldn't have magical moments. 769 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 1: So I would think that I would take jokes that 770 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: purposely wouldn't work, just to set up the next one. 771 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 1: But that would be funny to have a joke that 772 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: didn't work, Yeah, like a dead moment. Yes, I wouldn't 773 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: purposely do that. I had a joke, Yeah, Yeah, because 774 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,839 Speaker 1: I think that that, you know, because that's a that's 775 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: a moment of honesty, that that that's a moment of 776 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,479 Speaker 1: vulnerability that I showed the audience that I'm not as 777 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: together as you think I am. I had this joke 778 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: that I used to always do. I used to be 779 00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,440 Speaker 1: like Tiger Woods doesn't want to say he's black, but 780 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 1: his father's black and his mother's tie. I'm just gonna 781 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:16,600 Speaker 1: call him a formal nigger. No, that would never get 782 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:24,120 Speaker 1: a laugh. I don't know why, YO knew. No one laughed, 783 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 1: But I would purposely do that joke every time, just 784 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,920 Speaker 1: just and then I would sit there and would not 785 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 1: move until people like it made it funnier because people 786 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:44,319 Speaker 1: were like what, like, what is he talking about? But 787 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: that that was what I used to do, you know, 788 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: back in the day. I'll walk on stage this when 789 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 1: I first started, I'll walk on stage with like a saxophone. 790 00:48:54,680 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: I would never play. I'll do fifteen minutes old and 791 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:16,560 Speaker 1: and then just leave. I didn't even play this, they're 792 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: gonna play. He forgot the play. I'll bring like a flute, 793 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:27,479 Speaker 1: uh uh, I mean like hamonica, and would never play 794 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,000 Speaker 1: that ship just just you know, just twist it up. Dude, 795 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:37,879 Speaker 1: you gotta do that the next special, just wear a sexphone. Right. 796 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,520 Speaker 1: You remember explained about the whole polarization thing. Yeah. Yeah, 797 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,240 Speaker 1: So Chappelle does his trick where he polarized his audience 798 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,319 Speaker 1: by you know, when you see him perform milk take 799 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:56,040 Speaker 1: a cigarette and then he'll he won't puffe it. He'll 800 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:00,360 Speaker 1: light the cigarette and won't puff it. And he and 801 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: he knocks this thing with his knee. Yeah, every time 802 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,440 Speaker 1: he hits his knee with the after the punch, Like, yeah, 803 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,919 Speaker 1: like that to me, you know, you with the saxophone 804 00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,719 Speaker 1: and never use it. Used to I used to do 805 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 1: that a lot. I first started just to keep people going, 806 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:26,759 Speaker 1: what what so? What was it like? Um in the 807 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:32,680 Speaker 1: the Conan camp because I know that his particular brand 808 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 1: of of of writers, at least from my perspective, um, 809 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,319 Speaker 1: you know, I mean it was it seemed like it 810 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: was part national lampoons, like you know, like college uh 811 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 1: ivy League level humor some and you know like there 812 00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: was the master baiting bear like kind of like Conan humor. Um. 813 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: How first of all, were you quote the only guy 814 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,880 Speaker 1: in the room? And I think you know what I 815 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: mean by quote? Got like the rest. So I was 816 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,239 Speaker 1: I was the very first and only to this day 817 00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 1: black rider that Couner has ever had. Yes and yikes, 818 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,560 Speaker 1: yeah wait, not even what's his name? I thought what's 819 00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: his name? Was on the show for a second um 820 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,359 Speaker 1: cribe enthusiasm. He was Jooth was not a Coning writer 821 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:30,880 Speaker 1: at one point, j did you have any parameters or 822 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: did he just say go for it? Well? When I 823 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: first started, I was with all these Emmy Award winning 824 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: writers that went to Brown University, and I tried to 825 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: write like that. When I first started, how do you 826 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: find your tribe in your I just was trying to 827 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: write like them, and like none of that was working. No, 828 00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,719 Speaker 1: I was working. And one day they were writing this 829 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:57,960 Speaker 1: bit about Andy Rector, uh going to october Fest and 830 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,040 Speaker 1: I didn't know what that was and I was like, 831 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 1: what's that? It was like it's a German drinking day 832 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,680 Speaker 1: and I was just like, why everybody got drinking day 833 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,800 Speaker 1: with black people? And Coning at that day was like 834 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: once you write that up, and I was like, uh, 835 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 1: I was like really He was like yeah, So I 836 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: wrote it up and he was like, and I want 837 00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,960 Speaker 1: you to come out on the show and explain that, 838 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,279 Speaker 1: and I was like okay, and I went out and 839 00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: explained it. It blew up. Then I think something else 840 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: came up where I was like they were they were 841 00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: they were talking about a hunting house or something, and 842 00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 1: I was like that ship ain't scary to black people. 843 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: This scary to black people, and they just like write 844 00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 1: that up. So it became this thing where it was 845 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: like my world with Conan's world colliding. It was like yes, 846 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: So it was this dynamic that we had that well, 847 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: it's funny. So it led to me writing my way 848 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,040 Speaker 1: okay that they couldn't right now, Yeah, you needed your 849 00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:00,759 Speaker 1: voice like became my became my my voice in my 850 00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:04,000 Speaker 1: perspective that they couldn't write. So then they led me 851 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,279 Speaker 1: to have my own lane, you know what I mean, 852 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: and doing my own thing or whatever. But yeah, and 853 00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:13,319 Speaker 1: that to just this black dude from the South side 854 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: of Chicago kicking there with this super white dude Harvard 855 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: graduated from Boston and US collide and but being like damn, 856 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: they're best friends, you know. So it worked. So assuming 857 00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:30,440 Speaker 1: that no NDA was signed, Um, both you and I 858 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: have something in common. Uh, we both at one point 859 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,600 Speaker 1: and I still do work for the Tonight show. Yes, 860 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: now that was a really weird preference. The thing is is, 861 00:53:54,440 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: what what was the writer's room like when word first 862 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,759 Speaker 1: got out that oh, we might not be on the 863 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,720 Speaker 1: show anymore. Because the thing is like, once you get Tonight, 864 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 1: it's such a legacy that everyone thinks like, oh, it's 865 00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a thirty year run, you know, Johnny Carson, 866 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:17,440 Speaker 1: thirty years. They years, and that's what we thought. And 867 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: when you yeah, you guys got to your second year 868 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: and it's like, wait a minute, what's going on here? Yeah, 869 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: like the writer's room was like and you all moved 870 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, but for that, like did you come 871 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,960 Speaker 1: to New York at all? For any of them? Remember, 872 00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,759 Speaker 1: like they moved from New York and came here for 873 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,320 Speaker 1: the show. I came on as a guest. I wasn't 874 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: even a part of the camp when it came. And 875 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,720 Speaker 1: then after the they were there for like four months, 876 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: and then that's when then you were and then and 877 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,600 Speaker 1: then and then I got hired or whatever. But when 878 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,280 Speaker 1: we when they wouldn't move that time slot, and Conan 879 00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:55,280 Speaker 1: was like, yo, I'm leaving it. Just I was still 880 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: kind of like not knowing that history was be amazed 881 00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,440 Speaker 1: fast television, right sir. And like I was, I was 882 00:55:01,440 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: still like, yo, this banking sketches out and whatever. Like 883 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: everybody else was like, we moved from New York to here. 884 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: They just sold their houses and York you know, the 885 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 1: move that because they think and it was gonna be 886 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: a thirty year there. I was. I was there for 887 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: their last days. It was crushing, right, but we we 888 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,480 Speaker 1: we went, we went ham We was like, okay, well, 889 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:32,080 Speaker 1: let's just spend all of their money. You were never 890 00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 1: that last episode, Yeah, okay, we had the roll we 891 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 1: we had the Rolling Stones song. Yeah play, yes, we 892 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: played repeatedly during the show, so we had to pay 893 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,040 Speaker 1: for the licenses for that. I almost got in trouble. Well, yeah, 894 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:56,000 Speaker 1: when I watched that last episode, Uh, they had also 895 00:55:56,040 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 1: played Julia by the Beatles four times. There's five songs 896 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,879 Speaker 1: by the Beatles are like untouchable and it's near like 897 00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:10,560 Speaker 1: seven hundred thousand dollars per uth and I had tweeted 898 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,800 Speaker 1: that out and that was the first time that the 899 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:17,160 Speaker 1: Comcast people or you know, like called called my manager 900 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 1: like can we control mirrors account? Because I can say like, oh, ship, 901 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: see about to pay They're like, can you get tweet? 902 00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:33,080 Speaker 1: We don't want our bosses to know how much money 903 00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,480 Speaker 1: were wasting. Hilarious. Yeah, but how much did that last 904 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 1: episode costs? Because y'all did like y'all destroyed a very 905 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 1: expensive card. They destroy they some of the horse we had, 906 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: like this thorough bred horse that costs like millions, and 907 00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 1: we was like, oh yeah, we was it, like you know, 908 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 1: and they didn't want us to do that. We had 909 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:08,600 Speaker 1: these ancient bones flew in, these uh dinosaur bones flew 910 00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 1: in some contexts into this because yeah, give me some 911 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: context to the Late Night Wars or whatever. So Conan, 912 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: you were writer for Conan and then what happened The 913 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: show just got canceled, like Jay Leno gave him the 914 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,840 Speaker 1: show and then we had the show, and then they 915 00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: wanted to move the Tonight Show from eleven thirty to twelve. 916 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,680 Speaker 1: Conan was like, it's been eleven thirty since the beginning 917 00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,840 Speaker 1: of it Tonight Show, how dare you move the time slides? 918 00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,120 Speaker 1: And they was like, we want to move it and 919 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:44,080 Speaker 1: so Jay can have the So Jay can have the 920 00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 1: eleven thirty spot, and it was like he was like, 921 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 1: he wasn't he wasn't gonna do it. He wasn't gonna, 922 00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, go against the integrity of the show. Connor 923 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: was like, oh I'm out, and they gave him forty 924 00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:02,240 Speaker 1: five million to leave and he left. Yeah, it was 925 00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,360 Speaker 1: it was crazy, you know. But we went on tour 926 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,600 Speaker 1: after that because he couldn't be on TV or radio 927 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,400 Speaker 1: or nothing like that. So we toured for like three months. 928 00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,800 Speaker 1: So you were you yeah, I closed. I'd like I 929 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,480 Speaker 1: went second to last doing stand up. I was doing 930 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,800 Speaker 1: like ten fifteen minutes to stand up every night. We 931 00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: was doing like between two thousand and fifteen thousand seats. 932 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 1: It was like that was like some rolling Stone ship 933 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: because it was a movement because everybody loved Conan at 934 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,800 Speaker 1: that time and they knew that they did them wrong. 935 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 1: So everywhere we went it was like crazy. And like 936 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: every city we went to, whoever the celebrity was, I 937 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 1: was known in that city, they would come out on 938 00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 1: stage with Conan. So we was with like Neil Diamond 939 00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 1: and Eddie Vetter and like all these people that I like, 940 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,800 Speaker 1: beyond my comprehensiveive meeting, like hanging out with him. It 941 00:58:56,920 --> 00:59:00,240 Speaker 1: was crazy. Like I remember when we finished the tour, 942 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,560 Speaker 1: I got to my apartment and called my Renos plays 943 00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:18,320 Speaker 1: asking for chicken fingers and ship fadus rand I was gone, boy, 944 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 1: we did Bonaru. We did like because you know, Cone 945 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 1: is a musical guy too. You know. They played the 946 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,919 Speaker 1: guitar and ship, you know, so we caught it. Cut 947 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,360 Speaker 1: an album with Jack White was in Nashville. It was 948 00:59:30,560 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: crazy y'all album, Like it was crazy. Are you and 949 00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: Cony y'all still cool? Now? Y'all still work? How many 950 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,040 Speaker 1: years did you do on the TBS show before you 951 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,920 Speaker 1: left my show? No No for Cony? Did you go 952 00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,320 Speaker 1: with Conan into TV? Yeah? Yeah, I went over there. 953 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: I was over there like six years, six years. Then 954 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,480 Speaker 1: I had my own show called black Box, and then 955 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,919 Speaker 1: at the Black Box. That's when I left and went 956 00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:59,640 Speaker 1: to black That was a sleeper black. They didn't they 957 00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 1: didn't get behind me at all. They was trying to 958 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,280 Speaker 1: promote it like it was some kicking the nuts that 959 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: show and ship, you know, but we was doing We 960 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: was doing topical ship, were talking about what was in 961 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: the news. But they was promoting us as if we 962 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:17,640 Speaker 1: were showing yeah, like some toss ship and it went't 963 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 1: like that. We were talking about a Manda Binds and 964 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,480 Speaker 1: all kinds of ship that anything that was in the news, 965 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, but it was it was a great show, 966 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,440 Speaker 1: but it was all white network at the time. And 967 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: you know, TBS used to be a network for baseball, 968 01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 1: and so all these shows used to cater to the 969 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,320 Speaker 1: white American baseball guy. And then I come along. They're like, 970 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 1: what those two guys, I know, you'll talk about them 971 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,040 Speaker 1: all the time on Vice. They're like a kind of 972 01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 1: like they might have been inspired by. Yeah, how did 973 01:00:55,760 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: you come across Kenya? Uh? It was agent by the 974 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,360 Speaker 1: name of tam Are going. She was talking to Kenya. 975 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Kenya was talking to her about some writers that she needed, 976 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:09,840 Speaker 1: and she was like, yo, Dion just finished up on Conan, 977 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:13,080 Speaker 1: you should go. You should have them come over. And 978 01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,760 Speaker 1: he was like all right, But Kenya had knew my 979 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:18,600 Speaker 1: work and I knew a Kenya too, and so I 980 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:21,360 Speaker 1: went over there for an interview and talked to him, 981 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: like I said, that's when we met about talking about 982 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: this Charlie character and all of that, and then um man, 983 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: it just at the uh Charlie didn't want to do it. 984 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,520 Speaker 1: It just what it did. So did I hear you? Right? 985 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,560 Speaker 1: You right for yourself for that character? No, I don't 986 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 1: now at that time, No, I never did. I was 987 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 1: just writing for I was I was going to write 988 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: for that character. But the way that I envisioned the 989 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:52,440 Speaker 1: character of being me and Kenya only knew how that 990 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,960 Speaker 1: character should be. So when Charlie didn't want to do it, 991 01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Keny was like, well, I want to find nobody else 992 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,400 Speaker 1: and try to show them how to do. Want you 993 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:02,440 Speaker 1: to just be that character from me? And how did 994 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 1: he describe that character to you? Like, what was he 995 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 1: to be? Well, he just told me that it was 996 01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 1: this guy that works with Anthony and he uh, he's 997 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:13,200 Speaker 1: just a friend that that comes that came into the 998 01:02:13,240 --> 01:02:16,240 Speaker 1: office and that you know, just chops it up with Anthony. 999 01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: And I was more and you know, actually the character 1000 01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:22,360 Speaker 1: is mainly based off of Kenya. Kenya. Is that guy 1001 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:33,120 Speaker 1: he Anthony? Your characters Kenya Kenya, Yeah, Kenya. It's like 1002 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 1: it's like a split personality thing with Kenya. Kenya. Kenya 1003 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:43,240 Speaker 1: is that awkward guy in the office. Yeah, Kenya was 1004 01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:47,480 Speaker 1: that guy with his family situation, you know, And that's 1005 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:52,840 Speaker 1: what irresponsible. That's the great thing about Anthony's character on 1006 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: the show for those that watch it. When Anthony is 1007 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: at home, he's an idiot. When he's in the office, 1008 01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: he's brilliant. Yeah, and he just he he plays this. 1009 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,280 Speaker 1: He played he flip flops. This character that's you know, 1010 01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 1: crazy to see him. So is that typical to have 1011 01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,800 Speaker 1: one person right for one character, because I know that 1012 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,600 Speaker 1: in the case the thirty Rock um, Donald Glover's job 1013 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,880 Speaker 1: was to write and be the voice of Tracy Morgan's 1014 01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,600 Speaker 1: character on thirty Rocks and just right for him. So 1015 01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, like when you're getting this job, before you 1016 01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:35,480 Speaker 1: were on the show, your job wasn't to contribute an 1017 01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,880 Speaker 1: ideal line for the for the story, for the plot 1018 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:44,440 Speaker 1: or anything. It was like, what would this character said? Well, 1019 01:03:44,480 --> 01:03:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, because I didn't. I didn't get that far. 1020 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: All the furthest I got was, hey, it's this guy, 1021 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,840 Speaker 1: ain't childie. And I never wrote on a sick I 1022 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,600 Speaker 1: never only wrote for late night and yeah, yeah, it's 1023 01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,440 Speaker 1: totally late late night, it's current. Late night is fast paced. 1024 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:04,760 Speaker 1: Next thing you know, twelve hours is gone buy and 1025 01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 1: you're like, god damn, yeah, yeah, you gotta do it 1026 01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 1: all over again. The next day you're in the news, 1027 01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 1: you're getting premises sent that you you gotta write descript. 1028 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 1: It's like that with television. You know, you got months 1029 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: to prep beforehand, and then you get the skirts easier. 1030 01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, because yeah, yeah, yeah, because you got 1031 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 1: you got to be funny, funny within minutes, Like every 1032 01:04:28,440 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: second has got to be funny. On late night a monologue, 1033 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:34,840 Speaker 1: set up punchline, set up punch line, and you got it. 1034 01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:36,959 Speaker 1: And then after that you got like just a few 1035 01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: minutes and before you know, the guests come out, you 1036 01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So you gotta you gotta hit it, 1037 01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:47,160 Speaker 1: like like tonight show now that y'all want, like it's 1038 01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:51,240 Speaker 1: gotta be snappy, you know. But television, yeah, you got 1039 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,200 Speaker 1: time to prep and write, you know, get it together, 1040 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,600 Speaker 1: did you? Was it a transition for you going from 1041 01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: writing to like now having to add you know what 1042 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like now, like but I was always like 1043 01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:07,640 Speaker 1: loving acting, you know what I'm saying? Writing writing was 1044 01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,919 Speaker 1: writing was more stressful to me than acting, because yeah, 1045 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:12,760 Speaker 1: because you have to be funny. You have to like 1046 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,680 Speaker 1: constantly come up with stuff, will constantly be funny and 1047 01:05:15,720 --> 01:05:20,640 Speaker 1: not be funny to yourself. You gotta be funny to 1048 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:25,160 Speaker 1: the world, like it's gotta it's gotta old, young black 1049 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:31,560 Speaker 1: white man women. So are you trying to pander to 1050 01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: the room knowing that culturally their brand of humor is 1051 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,240 Speaker 1: a little bit different than yours, Like, do you have 1052 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,440 Speaker 1: to skewer the degrees a little bit so that you're like, okay, 1053 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 1: if it hits these I'm assuming you have ten, eleven, 1054 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:50,120 Speaker 1: twelve writers in Conan's room. Are you in your mind saying, okay, 1055 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:54,320 Speaker 1: I got just okay, that's good. I have to adjust 1056 01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:58,000 Speaker 1: to them or they don't know what funny is. Let 1057 01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,120 Speaker 1: me just know it's No, it's you think can demographically 1058 01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,960 Speaker 1: and you also thinking about Conan. You're thinking about how 1059 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 1: his humor is, and then you're thinking about your demographic 1060 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 1: that's listening to this, and you have to make sure 1061 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,400 Speaker 1: that your material. So if he thinks it's funny, then 1062 01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,560 Speaker 1: you're like, I'm cool because I care about the writers 1063 01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,560 Speaker 1: or your head writer and that sort of thing. No, 1064 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,280 Speaker 1: because you're already thinking what Conan might think. You're thinking 1065 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,040 Speaker 1: what the head writer would think too. But your your 1066 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 1: your main purpose is what Conan thinks. It's not even 1067 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,880 Speaker 1: the demographic, because you can have something edgy and Conan 1068 01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,080 Speaker 1: might let it slide through and go oh, yeah, yeah, 1069 01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 1: I like that, but you you ain't even thinking about 1070 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,760 Speaker 1: because it's been many times where I hadn't wrote sketches 1071 01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:41,880 Speaker 1: and I thought they were brilliant and Conan like nope. 1072 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,040 Speaker 1: You know, like one time I had this thing where 1073 01:06:45,080 --> 01:06:48,920 Speaker 1: I had like fifty suit coats come in where Conan 1074 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,320 Speaker 1: had to try on fifty Steve Harvey suit coats that 1075 01:06:52,400 --> 01:07:00,280 Speaker 1: I was that I want him to do. Yeah, yeah, 1076 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:11,120 Speaker 1: like Steve never been just like it. He got it. 1077 01:07:11,320 --> 01:07:17,240 Speaker 1: He just was like nah, And then I had to 1078 01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:24,040 Speaker 1: get all fifty in them suits sent back. Because when 1079 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: when you first think of it, when when you get 1080 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,280 Speaker 1: to work at like nine in the morning, you're looking 1081 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: at two D premises and then at the premises you 1082 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 1: write up a couple of jokes to pitch it to 1083 01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,080 Speaker 1: the head right, and he go, that's funny. At that moment, 1084 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: you gotta write a script and send her heads up 1085 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 1: to the whole department which is casting props, uh, electrical whatever, 1086 01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:49,040 Speaker 1: and they look at your script. Everybody's building casting everything, 1087 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:53,520 Speaker 1: shopping all wire. You writing the script, lunch, come, you 1088 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,960 Speaker 1: go downstairs and you rehearse that ship. Everything got to 1089 01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,320 Speaker 1: be in order. And that's just one bite bite and 1090 01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:02,200 Speaker 1: don't want me tell you something? Can it come out? 1091 01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,320 Speaker 1: And he looked at that ship and if it ain't funny, 1092 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: send all that ship back. Let me tell you something, 1093 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:11,400 Speaker 1: all right, Steve, And I can relate to this what 1094 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 1: he just described, because nothing is more painful then when 1095 01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:22,080 Speaker 1: a sketch, especially when music is involved on the Tonight 1096 01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:26,120 Speaker 1: Show and the writer makes you slave over a mix 1097 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:29,559 Speaker 1: and you put four or five hours behind this ship 1098 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 1: and then you realize, like by the fifth hour that 1099 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,759 Speaker 1: you're just doing a demo that's going to be submitted 1100 01:08:36,800 --> 01:08:41,800 Speaker 1: to Jimmy to see to see and it doesn't make 1101 01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 1: And then just like they struggle, like, Okay, it's fine, 1102 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:50,400 Speaker 1: and I'm like that, I know that, I know that 1103 01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 1: payment arranging melodies. But it's weird though that because even 1104 01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 1: as you say that, I'm like, yo, doesn't cone and 1105 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:05,719 Speaker 1: realized the viral gold of seeing him in the Steve 1106 01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 1: Harvey suit that that will last on the internet forever, 1107 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,240 Speaker 1: all the memes and all the jifts that will be made. 1108 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:17,960 Speaker 1: But like, were they even thinking that far ahead into 1109 01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:20,760 Speaker 1: the future, because like the stuff we do now, it's 1110 01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:25,280 Speaker 1: it's you're you're thinking in so many compartments of like Okay, 1111 01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:29,000 Speaker 1: is the sketch genuinely funny? Well? This will they change 1112 01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:32,120 Speaker 1: the channel after this thing? But then it's beyond. That's beyond. 1113 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,040 Speaker 1: Are they going to watch it in the morning on 1114 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,280 Speaker 1: their iPhone in the gym? Is it? Is there something 1115 01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 1: visually funny that we can freeze it and then it 1116 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:41,559 Speaker 1: will be made a jeft into you know, there's so 1117 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,240 Speaker 1: many levels of marketing. Yeah, yeah, making the way people 1118 01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 1: consume it's so different now, like it you know what 1119 01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,360 Speaker 1: I mean, Like I was, I want to ask you, like, 1120 01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 1: does that how does that inform comedy? Because I mean 1121 01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,920 Speaker 1: it's like I was saying, it's it's no longer comedy 1122 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,000 Speaker 1: now is no longer I go to one spot and 1123 01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:58,880 Speaker 1: I see a guy on stage, or I'll sit at 1124 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:03,840 Speaker 1: home and I watched body. It can be a snapchat everybody. 1125 01:10:04,040 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 1: Everybody's funny Right now, there's like a little tension with 1126 01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: comics and a lot of Instagram people who come out, 1127 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,360 Speaker 1: they do a video and then all of a sudden 1128 01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:20,760 Speaker 1: it's viral. On Now this person is booked in the 1129 01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:25,000 Speaker 1: club and people coming to see them do what like 1130 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:29,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, And it's like taking it takes it 1131 01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: takes food out of I guess comics who can honestly 1132 01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,479 Speaker 1: do stand up and really deserve to be there. It 1133 01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,880 Speaker 1: takes food out their pocket. I guess it's similar to 1134 01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 1: models versus Instagram models. What were your feelings like four 1135 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,960 Speaker 1: like those buying stars like because there's at least eight 1136 01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 1: or nine or ten of them that could if there's 1137 01:10:54,160 --> 01:11:00,719 Speaker 1: one in particular that's like extremely popular that uh, when 1138 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 1: this particular person took a meeting with developing our own show, 1139 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 1: like I guess like HBO had called them into develop something. Um, 1140 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:17,280 Speaker 1: it was like a fish out of water situation because 1141 01:11:17,840 --> 01:11:21,599 Speaker 1: it's like this person is hilarious and a seven seven 1142 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:27,640 Speaker 1: second vine scenario, but I couldn't adjust at all in 1143 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,920 Speaker 1: the real world of the half hour. That's a different thing. 1144 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:35,559 Speaker 1: That's a different Yeah, that's that's two different skills, two 1145 01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 1: different things. But they just think, Hey, he's got followers, 1146 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:42,439 Speaker 1: he's got this, then y'all, let's let's throw him some money. 1147 01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,960 Speaker 1: Let's get his followers. And we can't get his followers, 1148 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,360 Speaker 1: then you know, we can add those followers follow us 1149 01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:50,960 Speaker 1: to what we got going on, you know. And I 1150 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 1: think that's what it basically is. I think they just 1151 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 1: get them for that, I think, you know, but when 1152 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,120 Speaker 1: that vine ship was popping off, I ain't even I wasn't. 1153 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,880 Speaker 1: I didn't even realize how big that was when it 1154 01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,320 Speaker 1: was going on because I wasn't like on it like 1155 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,600 Speaker 1: that because I didn't know. I didn't know the magnitude 1156 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:13,360 Speaker 1: that we're doing real comedy out on stage. But you 1157 01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,920 Speaker 1: take advantage of like social because I follow you on 1158 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:19,800 Speaker 1: yeah around that. Yeah, definitely I messed around. But that's 1159 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,120 Speaker 1: just my world and ship, you know what I mean, Like, 1160 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,599 Speaker 1: I don't be like you know, and people that I like, 1161 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,439 Speaker 1: I followed them and look at the stuff that they 1162 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,639 Speaker 1: did or whatever, but put real jokes up in there. No, 1163 01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:39,040 Speaker 1: I would not do that. A good buddy of mine 1164 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 1: in Chicago, Um, I have a lot of I don't 1165 01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:43,320 Speaker 1: know what it is, like a lot of my comedy 1166 01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 1: homies in Chicago Dave ellum, uh yeah Dave and shout 1167 01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 1: out the nefertory to she put shout out, um, how 1168 01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: do you know? They wanted me to ask, how do 1169 01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:01,639 Speaker 1: you know as a comedian winning time to move from 1170 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:04,720 Speaker 1: another city? Move leave Chicago and maybe go l A 1171 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,040 Speaker 1: or New York, Like, how did you know in your 1172 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,360 Speaker 1: journey it's like okay, now signed for me to move. Well, 1173 01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,440 Speaker 1: I wasn't one of them, my fingers that believed in myself. 1174 01:13:15,439 --> 01:13:19,840 Speaker 1: I waited till it came to me to it made 1175 01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,559 Speaker 1: me go, yo, let's go. You know what I mean. 1176 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,800 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna just go. You know what, I believe 1177 01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,280 Speaker 1: in myself, let me pack up me and my dreams. 1178 01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:31,120 Speaker 1: And now that now that, I was like, yo, it 1179 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,559 Speaker 1: has to like come get me and go yo, come 1180 01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:38,599 Speaker 1: out here and come do this. Which yes, and that's 1181 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,320 Speaker 1: exactly what happened. You know. It came and got me 1182 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,200 Speaker 1: and was like okay, you need to come out here 1183 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:45,760 Speaker 1: and do this. And I was like all right, and 1184 01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:47,760 Speaker 1: so that's what I did. But as far as just 1185 01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:52,639 Speaker 1: jumping up myself now and and and I ain't knocking 1186 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,640 Speaker 1: nobody who do that, but I just I wasn't that 1187 01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,759 Speaker 1: secure with my with myself like that, you know, because 1188 01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,559 Speaker 1: it wasn't like this was something that I had, you know, 1189 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 1: from a kid. I was like, I want to be 1190 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,920 Speaker 1: a kind like someone better me I did. It was 1191 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 1: like whoa yeh, so what did your what did your 1192 01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:16,040 Speaker 1: folks do? Like what was their uh what they supported? Yeah? 1193 01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 1: I was on television, jumping out of limos, walking right 1194 01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:24,320 Speaker 1: in my mama house and taking the garbage out, mopping 1195 01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:27,519 Speaker 1: the floor. She had no idea what was going on. 1196 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:30,000 Speaker 1: My mother a Christian, you know, she went the church 1197 01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:36,960 Speaker 1: three times a week. She had no idea what was 1198 01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,120 Speaker 1: going on? Like nothing. All she knew was her baby 1199 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:45,000 Speaker 1: boy didn't work. He woke up at one o'clock every day, 1200 01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:47,720 Speaker 1: but he had money to put on the rent in 1201 01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,920 Speaker 1: the bills. And she was just like, yo, you better 1202 01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:52,560 Speaker 1: not be selling drugs. And I don't know how you 1203 01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:55,599 Speaker 1: getting your money. And I used telling I was doing comedy. 1204 01:14:55,680 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 1: She like, you can call it whatever. Parents never believe, right, 1205 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, talk, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't 1206 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:18,800 Speaker 1: keep off the phone. So when during the period in 1207 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:23,920 Speaker 1: which you took your last quote last day on black Is, 1208 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:30,240 Speaker 1: because Andrew Tribeca was around the corner um, then you 1209 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:34,320 Speaker 1: came back to thank God black Is, Like how did 1210 01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:40,920 Speaker 1: that work out? So? Black Ish was always in second position. 1211 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,720 Speaker 1: Andrew Tribeca was the show I had first. The only 1212 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,760 Speaker 1: reason why I went over the blackest two rights because 1213 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,240 Speaker 1: I was waiting on a yes. So I allowed that 1214 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:52,880 Speaker 1: they allowed you to sow the character I play on 1215 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:56,360 Speaker 1: Blackest wasn't even supposed to be like always. It was 1216 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:58,640 Speaker 1: supposed to be like a one time or dale. But 1217 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:02,080 Speaker 1: the character blew up that they kept I kept going back. 1218 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:07,920 Speaker 1: I left was like a one or two. Yeah, I 1219 01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:14,400 Speaker 1: left for about eight episodes kids. Yeah, but when I 1220 01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:16,439 Speaker 1: when I when I left, I had to go do 1221 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:20,599 Speaker 1: ant try back, and it kind of like went went 1222 01:16:20,720 --> 01:16:23,840 Speaker 1: crazy a little bit. And so it got to the 1223 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,000 Speaker 1: point where they had to like work with each other 1224 01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 1: where they didn't have to. They just made it work. 1225 01:16:28,560 --> 01:16:31,639 Speaker 1: TVs was kind enough to go, Okay, we'll let y'all 1226 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,839 Speaker 1: use him for this long and so that's just what happened, 1227 01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,879 Speaker 1: you know. And they went back and forth every season 1228 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,200 Speaker 1: with how many episodes I can do and can't do, 1229 01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,519 Speaker 1: and then it just balanced itself out at the world. 1230 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,280 Speaker 1: I don't seem like it's any a lot of actors 1231 01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,599 Speaker 1: in Hollywood that have that privilege. No, it was unheard 1232 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 1: of a lot of I think a lot of cats. 1233 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:53,759 Speaker 1: Now I started to get it or whatever. I remember 1234 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:57,680 Speaker 1: I was talking to uh uh, Tiffany Hattis, I see. 1235 01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 1: It was like, you know, I'm trying to get that 1236 01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:09,519 Speaker 1: d white hot, right since we want black is joke 1237 01:17:09,560 --> 01:17:11,759 Speaker 1: can I ask you, like, so, as far as shooting scenes, 1238 01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,960 Speaker 1: do you have like a favorite actor that you like 1239 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:18,519 Speaker 1: to shoot scenes? But of course people love the Diane moments. Yeah, 1240 01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,800 Speaker 1: but is there like somebody who you really like this man, 1241 01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:27,720 Speaker 1: my my office buddies, Peter mackenzie and stuff like Yo 1242 01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 1: and Nelson We and Anthony. Those office scenes, man, they're 1243 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 1: so crazy because those guys are just as racist as 1244 01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,439 Speaker 1: funny as Yeah, but it'd be real ship that will 1245 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,400 Speaker 1: be you know what I'm saying. And so man working 1246 01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: with them guys, man, it's fun to say I love 1247 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:51,479 Speaker 1: playing playing that character as far as like with those guys. Man, Yeah, 1248 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:53,840 Speaker 1: how much stuff gets made up on setting? How much 1249 01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,320 Speaker 1: stuff is written? Stuff like that, and be honest with you, 1250 01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:01,920 Speaker 1: all of its written. Like the scrip. The writers are 1251 01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:07,120 Speaker 1: like incredible. They're so brilliant, man, And like after certain 1252 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:10,800 Speaker 1: takes they'll go, Yo, you can freestyle a little bit now, 1253 01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,599 Speaker 1: let us go. I mean they really open to us 1254 01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,920 Speaker 1: freestyle or whatever. They'll give us all moments where we 1255 01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,480 Speaker 1: can add live and throw some stuff in there. Definitely, 1256 01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,720 Speaker 1: but the scrubby so tight sometime that we don't even 1257 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 1: literally have to you know, because sometimes you can kill 1258 01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,080 Speaker 1: a joke with a joke. What's the episode you're most 1259 01:18:28,120 --> 01:18:32,760 Speaker 1: proud of. I love the Lemonade episode, which is the 1260 01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:38,200 Speaker 1: one about Trump being voted on. And another episode I 1261 01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:43,240 Speaker 1: really like is the one where I had to babysit. Yeah. 1262 01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:59,519 Speaker 1: I was like, I would have loved that was killing Anthony. 1263 01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,960 Speaker 1: I remember my showed up to work. That's seen her. 1264 01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:07,160 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, you'd be on time over that month, 1265 01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:10,840 Speaker 1: showed up and seen how I just I was like, 1266 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,320 Speaker 1: can you kind of talk to you? I was like, 1267 01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,640 Speaker 1: what is she doing? It? Like that's gonna be I 1268 01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,320 Speaker 1: was like, what, So you didn't know until you got 1269 01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:22,639 Speaker 1: on se No, I did that Kenya. They do that ship. 1270 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:27,719 Speaker 1: They're surprised you ship like he wanted your genuine reactions. Man, 1271 01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't know. I was so nervous too. I was nervous. 1272 01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 1: She was fine. I tell you, I'm like, man, TV TV. 1273 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,760 Speaker 1: She looked nice on TV and then that, but seeing 1274 01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,439 Speaker 1: personal life, like you can look you look at her 1275 01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 1: and go I get it. Yeah, I get it. I 1276 01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 1: get why. I get it. I get it. I get 1277 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:57,000 Speaker 1: why all these niggas is doing and she nicest ship man, 1278 01:19:57,320 --> 01:20:04,840 Speaker 1: finest fun. Yeah, you're from cal You ain't from Philly? What? No, 1279 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:09,920 Speaker 1: I'm from DC. I can't get called. Yeah, who do 1280 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 1: you like? Who? Don't want to ask you? Who do 1281 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 1: you like? Down? Like? Who's your like? Cats? Did you 1282 01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:16,920 Speaker 1: come out of the house? Yeah? You have comedians that 1283 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,240 Speaker 1: you like that that that I go see or I 1284 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,439 Speaker 1: mean we'll just cats that you did? Man, Man, it's 1285 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,559 Speaker 1: so man. I like Harlan Williams. You ever go see 1286 01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:33,800 Speaker 1: Harlan Williams. Like I know who Harlan Williams is hilarious? Man? 1287 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 1: I like J J from Mississippi. Uh, he's hilarious. Um My, man, 1288 01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:47,280 Speaker 1: Tony Scofield it's funny and Tony is It's hilarious. And yeah, 1289 01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:50,600 Speaker 1: those are get like comics that I look at and 1290 01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,880 Speaker 1: get inspired by watching. Chris Specter it's funny as hell. 1291 01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 1: Is he still doing Is he going out and still doing? Clear? 1292 01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,160 Speaker 1: He still do shows and stuff. Yeah, he's actually now 1293 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:04,040 Speaker 1: writing on um my other show, Grownish, that we start 1294 01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:08,000 Speaker 1: shooting in September. Grownish, it's spin off from Black It's 1295 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:13,080 Speaker 1: too hold because this is it's not called college, It's 1296 01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:20,479 Speaker 1: called Grownish. It's gonna be your different world. Yeah, Charlie's 1297 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,760 Speaker 1: gonna be on it. Yeah, he played as a JUX 1298 01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:27,479 Speaker 1: professor at night and man, yeah it's crazy. He got 1299 01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:34,799 Speaker 1: like a prostitutes nothing fetterman trying to get their life together. 1300 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:41,760 Speaker 1: But black does that mean you double up again? Are 1301 01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 1: you tripling? Na? Now I do both the studios right 1302 01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:49,320 Speaker 1: next to each other, are all right? So what's your like, 1303 01:21:49,880 --> 01:21:59,040 Speaker 1: who's your lawyer? What is it? What is your itinerary? 1304 01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,599 Speaker 1: Then like what time you to be up? So right now, 1305 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:10,080 Speaker 1: like right now, I'm doing Blackish, and then like the 1306 01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,680 Speaker 1: days that I have off, if I can, I go 1307 01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:15,120 Speaker 1: over the coning and might do it better or whatever. 1308 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:20,960 Speaker 1: And then in September still I do bits. I do bits. Ye, 1309 01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:25,400 Speaker 1: I do bits, like if something in the news or 1310 01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,120 Speaker 1: if they call me and be like, yo, can you 1311 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:28,640 Speaker 1: do this, I'd be like, yeah, I come through and 1312 01:22:28,720 --> 01:22:31,040 Speaker 1: do it. Or if it's something that I think it's funny, 1313 01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:32,640 Speaker 1: I'd be like, man, I think we should do this 1314 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 1: real quick. And then when they go all right, find cool. 1315 01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:36,640 Speaker 1: So I'll go over there if I can, if I 1316 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,920 Speaker 1: got the time going, then do a bit. But I'll 1317 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:44,400 Speaker 1: do Blackish now, and then September I start Grownish and 1318 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,840 Speaker 1: I'll be doing Blackish and Grownish at the same time 1319 01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,400 Speaker 1: until December, and then December and you try back to start, 1320 01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:54,360 Speaker 1: and then I do Angie and Blackish all the way 1321 01:22:54,360 --> 01:22:58,720 Speaker 1: into the spring, and then I got my other show 1322 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:04,280 Speaker 1: face Value BT with Want of the Sykes and Tiffany 1323 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:09,120 Speaker 1: hat this that starts September. We shot. We shot twenty 1324 01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,000 Speaker 1: four episodes already at that. It's it's a it's a 1325 01:23:12,120 --> 01:23:15,240 Speaker 1: game show man, It's it's funny. It's it's just we're 1326 01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:26,360 Speaker 1: paying people to profile people. That's it pretty much. What's 1327 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:32,559 Speaker 1: like what it is man, it's it's it's it's funny, though, 1328 01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:37,320 Speaker 1: it's like you We get these people and Tiffany interviews 1329 01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,120 Speaker 1: them off the Vegas strip and before they can answer 1330 01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,160 Speaker 1: the question that she asked them, we asked people on 1331 01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,280 Speaker 1: the audience. I mean, these contestants whether they think and 1332 01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:48,760 Speaker 1: if they guess what they think they might say. Then 1333 01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:54,600 Speaker 1: they get okay, yeah, I've saw I've seen the yeas, 1334 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,920 Speaker 1: what would you do? Yeah, it's like and then we 1335 01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:01,320 Speaker 1: break well. The whole shows you getting to know these characters, 1336 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,800 Speaker 1: and then the next act we will say something that 1337 01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,400 Speaker 1: somebody did and you gotta guess who. And then the 1338 01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:10,560 Speaker 1: third act it's like you know who said this. And 1339 01:24:10,680 --> 01:24:13,920 Speaker 1: then at the end, whoever wins those three rounds they 1340 01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,360 Speaker 1: go to the bonus round and then they get to 1341 01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,080 Speaker 1: choose who they think they know the best and answer 1342 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:21,680 Speaker 1: as many questions possible. Then they win ten thousands. It's 1343 01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:25,840 Speaker 1: a derivative of Black White. It's a radio game where 1344 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:27,880 Speaker 1: you play us and you tell somebody scenario and you 1345 01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:31,160 Speaker 1: have to guess what they are. Well, it's it's Indians. 1346 01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:45,240 Speaker 1: And she said, we all feel that that form. Come on, 1347 01:24:47,080 --> 01:24:49,439 Speaker 1: I can't even I can't even ask what's in your 1348 01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:58,519 Speaker 1: future because you have six jobs. While you wait a minute, 1349 01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm the only one who telling job. Yeah, you know, 1350 01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:11,080 Speaker 1: I'm just chilling. You know, okay, you're dating. I'm just chilling, 1351 01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,120 Speaker 1: just chilling me like I know what it means, trying 1352 01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:20,880 Speaker 1: to figure It's like we just figure out the world. 1353 01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:28,160 Speaker 1: I got my dreams in the suitcase. I asked no questions. 1354 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:31,200 Speaker 1: You got babies. I have a son, Okay, you don't 1355 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:38,560 Speaker 1: treat them like you treat them. He'll be fifteen and September. 1356 01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,040 Speaker 1: You just started high schools the first year. I just 1357 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:45,000 Speaker 1: took him to school last Wednesday started you know how? 1358 01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:46,600 Speaker 1: So yes, I want to ask, so how do you 1359 01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:49,840 Speaker 1: go because you still I mean Chicago still? Yeah, So 1360 01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:51,920 Speaker 1: how do you balance it between here? Like how long 1361 01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:54,679 Speaker 1: you out here? Come he come out here? I go there? 1362 01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,439 Speaker 1: Or like my mother, I'm booking a flight soon as 1363 01:25:57,439 --> 01:26:00,080 Speaker 1: I leave here and bring her out here. And and 1364 01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,519 Speaker 1: you know when we had these moments where like they 1365 01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,040 Speaker 1: can come out here during the week or I'll go there, 1366 01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:08,880 Speaker 1: you know, just you know, just it's spurred a moment 1367 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,320 Speaker 1: all the time. You know, it's nothing like you know, 1368 01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,040 Speaker 1: we're playing months in advance because we can't do that. 1369 01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,400 Speaker 1: So how often what's your timeline? Like uh, in terms 1370 01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,720 Speaker 1: of your shooting schedule being out here and then you say, okay, 1371 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,160 Speaker 1: well I gotta break, I can go home, Like how 1372 01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,280 Speaker 1: long are you out here for? Well, no, I'm I 1373 01:26:25,439 --> 01:26:27,920 Speaker 1: stay out here until like I'm done, like right now. 1374 01:26:28,120 --> 01:26:30,240 Speaker 1: I'll be out here until like the spring, but I'll 1375 01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,679 Speaker 1: go home like like Thanksgiving, Christmas, and then whatever little 1376 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:36,040 Speaker 1: moments that I can't get home, then I'll do it 1377 01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:38,000 Speaker 1: like a weekend or a couple of days during the 1378 01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:41,320 Speaker 1: week if if that can happen, but that that win, 1379 01:26:41,439 --> 01:26:43,680 Speaker 1: dude to happen, for that to happen, is right, now 1380 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:48,000 Speaker 1: until like September, until when September here and I started 1381 01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,639 Speaker 1: doing like both shows and yeah it's gonna be really 1382 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:56,719 Speaker 1: toughugh and then still doing stand up on Saturday. You know, alright, 1383 01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:00,760 Speaker 1: I take that. Yeah, I know, I'm like I'm predicting me. 1384 01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:07,120 Speaker 1: Uh uh, Dion, Little Real, Antiffany Hattish are all going 1385 01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:13,800 Speaker 1: to simultaneously host the BT words. That would be great. 1386 01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:21,760 Speaker 1: That would be yo, man, that would be crazy. You literally, yeah, dog, 1387 01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:27,640 Speaker 1: I that exhausted me. Just just a dollar shot your 1388 01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:31,120 Speaker 1: sons starting high school with in Chicago in the burbs. Yeah, 1389 01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:43,360 Speaker 1: how do you feel? Because I have Chicago Tribune updates 1390 01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:50,479 Speaker 1: and it's almost like their method of informing you. Usually 1391 01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:53,280 Speaker 1: on Sundays they take a grand It's almost like Jerry's kids. 1392 01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:58,240 Speaker 1: It's almost a fetish level. Sixty three people shots this weekend, 1393 01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:08,240 Speaker 1: Like how do you do you sleep easy at night? 1394 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,280 Speaker 1: Like knowing that damn, I don't know. I don't never 1395 01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:14,080 Speaker 1: sleep easy, you know, knowing that I got a kid 1396 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,000 Speaker 1: that's out that way, you know, But I stayed in 1397 01:28:17,160 --> 01:28:22,160 Speaker 1: his life, you know. Fully, I'm always into everything that 1398 01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 1: he does. Talk to him every day. You know. His 1399 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,479 Speaker 1: mother is the same way. She keep keep keep her 1400 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,880 Speaker 1: foot on him, which is great, keep his keep his mind, 1401 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:35,280 Speaker 1: keep his mind, you know, involved in great things. He's 1402 01:28:35,280 --> 01:28:38,360 Speaker 1: a great kid, you know. And just keeping busy, you know, 1403 01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:42,240 Speaker 1: and and and showing them the proper love, because I 1404 01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:45,320 Speaker 1: think that's the problem nowadays with all the gangs in 1405 01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,759 Speaker 1: Chicago and all around I mean around the country period. 1406 01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean they're bringing in all the National Guards and 1407 01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,200 Speaker 1: all these people to protect people in Chicago from all 1408 01:28:55,280 --> 01:29:00,599 Speaker 1: the gangs. But I've said it before, Uh, there will 1409 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:04,519 Speaker 1: always be gangs as long as there's no love in 1410 01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:09,360 Speaker 1: the household, because they would they're gonna find that love 1411 01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:13,280 Speaker 1: within the gang. So if we don't provide them with 1412 01:29:13,479 --> 01:29:17,839 Speaker 1: proper love, then you can bring in as many National 1413 01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:21,559 Speaker 1: Guards as you want to. You know, they're gonna love 1414 01:29:21,640 --> 01:29:24,240 Speaker 1: in that gang. Don't make a difference. So you know, 1415 01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:28,000 Speaker 1: we're provide them with that. And so you know, I arrest, 1416 01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:32,040 Speaker 1: I arrest, okay with that, you know. But still it's 1417 01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:34,599 Speaker 1: always a job being the dad man. You ain't never 1418 01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:36,840 Speaker 1: leave about you know what I mean? Or I guess 1419 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:38,640 Speaker 1: last stuff like or do you have any movies in 1420 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,320 Speaker 1: the future that you're going to work? Just finished the 1421 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:49,240 Speaker 1: movie with h Nicole Parker and Kimberly Lee and Loretta 1422 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:53,040 Speaker 1: Divine called hair Shot. We just shot that. And I 1423 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:59,880 Speaker 1: did a movie with uh Whitney Cummings called um the 1424 01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,920 Speaker 1: Female Brain. Yeah, so we're waiting on that to come 1425 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,599 Speaker 1: out too, so yeah cool, yeah we shoot those, shout 1426 01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,720 Speaker 1: those and just then and Cannon waiting to come out 1427 01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:15,200 Speaker 1: cool a podcast and uh no podcast? What do you want? 1428 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:24,200 Speaker 1: When did your mixtape coming out? Like, I mean, we 1429 01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:26,720 Speaker 1: need the whole package. Let's go all the way with it. 1430 01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 1: I am sports, I am on vix album. Shout out 1431 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:37,679 Speaker 1: to vic Man. Yeah go check it out your face. 1432 01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:44,800 Speaker 1: You got me man, Dion, thank you for making me 1433 01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:49,599 Speaker 1: feel lazy. No, I need more jobs in my life. 1434 01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:58,120 Speaker 1: Thank out for having men. Shout out enough now so 1435 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,640 Speaker 1: I'm paid built. What What have we learned today? That 1436 01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:05,360 Speaker 1: Dion do a lot of ship, do not do a 1437 01:31:05,439 --> 01:31:11,720 Speaker 1: lot of dudes. Don't claiming all your seven thousand jobs job. 1438 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:24,599 Speaker 1: He stays stayed doing. What did you learn today? He does? 1439 01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,479 Speaker 1: I know, you know, you know. And if you watch 1440 01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:34,160 Speaker 1: the way that the Netflix special is lit is so 1441 01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:39,800 Speaker 1: f funny, but way about the same way that I 1442 01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:42,840 Speaker 1: feel that if Leslie Jones makes a move in four 1443 01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:49,560 Speaker 1: years to play Nina, right. I believe that he and 1444 01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:53,920 Speaker 1: he got a story. Everybody maybe thinking that. I mean, 1445 01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:55,960 Speaker 1: one time I was checking in this hotel. This is 1446 01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,200 Speaker 1: the white girl Rana. To me, it's like, oh my god. 1447 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:04,760 Speaker 1: Hoograph was like alright, cool signing autograph and she goes, 1448 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:11,400 Speaker 1: I love your daughter, and I was like, ship, like 1449 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:22,080 Speaker 1: three different shades different. Watch the Netflix special, it's a 1450 01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,800 Speaker 1: little bit different. I'm sure there was powder. He looks 1451 01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,720 Speaker 1: like Richie, no joke, I'll see it, but everybody else do. 1452 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:41,000 Speaker 1: I damn so much. I learned that Dion cos problem 1453 01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,200 Speaker 1: my hero. Especially that Late Night Ship just amazed me 1454 01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:45,880 Speaker 1: because I always had like a hidden thing of like 1455 01:32:46,000 --> 01:32:48,880 Speaker 1: writing more questions and ship like that. So you got 1456 01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:57,840 Speaker 1: a mentee, a mental That's what I just think. I 1457 01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:07,800 Speaker 1: know what that was. You know, it's not a hold up. 1458 01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:10,680 Speaker 1: You got the it's a whole fucking word, you know 1459 01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:17,760 Speaker 1: what I mean, just the way that it's a whole word. 1460 01:33:18,120 --> 01:33:26,679 Speaker 1: I want the job word. We can say that after 1461 01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:37,519 Speaker 1: the show. Shoot, thank you, thank you. Learned that we 1462 01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:43,719 Speaker 1: want to hold you back all the time. I learned 1463 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:47,320 Speaker 1: that Dion is actually different than the character Charlie because 1464 01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,400 Speaker 1: it's like you play it so well. I'm like, yo, 1465 01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:52,120 Speaker 1: is this really how to do this? But if you're 1466 01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,040 Speaker 1: lighting day from him and like you're like really a 1467 01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:56,559 Speaker 1: spark cat like this, I mean this is the first 1468 01:33:56,560 --> 01:33:59,320 Speaker 1: time we've met, but like you played just like you 1469 01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:04,920 Speaker 1: played idiot so well. Well. Thank you brother, a lot 1470 01:34:05,000 --> 01:34:08,439 Speaker 1: of experience, a lot of I'm a super fan brother, 1471 01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:11,720 Speaker 1: Thank you man. This has been an honor man. Thank 1472 01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:15,040 Speaker 1: you all so much. Man, this is great. Thank you well. 1473 01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:20,639 Speaker 1: On behalf of Unpaid Bill, Uh Boss? What's the other 1474 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:28,400 Speaker 1: bill name? Vacation Bill German, German Bill, October Bill Sugar, 1475 01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:38,080 Speaker 1: Steve Tilo and it's La need a job trying to 1476 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:45,280 Speaker 1: get off. Okay, I've learned that I need more jobs 1477 01:34:45,320 --> 01:34:49,599 Speaker 1: in my life. This Quest Love on behalf of Quest 1478 01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,280 Speaker 1: Love Supreme in Team Supreme. Thank you very much. We'll 1479 01:34:52,320 --> 01:35:04,479 Speaker 1: talk to you in the nets. Go Around Only on Course. 1480 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,479 Speaker 1: Love Supreme is a production of I Heart Radio. This 1481 01:35:07,640 --> 01:35:14,640 Speaker 1: classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. For 1482 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,200 Speaker 1: more podcasts for my heart Radio, visit the I heart 1483 01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:20,439 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 1484 01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:21,120 Speaker 1: favorite shows.