WEBVTT - The Foundation is Racism

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peeps, and welcome to ok F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Me your Girl, Danielle Moody recording from the home Bunker. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>by the time that you listen to this episode, Hurricane

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<v Speaker 1>Milton will have made landfall in Florida. We have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea the type of devastation that the state of Florida

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<v Speaker 1>will be in for. Once again, as I'm coming on air,

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<v Speaker 1>my mother sends me a text and says, you know, Danielle,

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<v Speaker 1>I rarely watched CNN, but today I turned it on

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<v Speaker 1>and a reporter is asking a woman in Florida that's

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<v Speaker 1>standing in her wreckage about, you know what she thinks

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<v Speaker 1>about these two storms coming through within two weeks, and

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<v Speaker 1>her response was their man made. I cannot express to

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<v Speaker 1>you the absolute extraordinary damage that Donald Trump and the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Party have done to this country and have done

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<v Speaker 1>to fucking common sense. It is a travesty what has happened,

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of disinformation and how susceptible people are to it,

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that in this day and age, that you

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<v Speaker 1>cannot trust science, your eyes, or your ears, or anything

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<v Speaker 1>any amount of education. I don't even care how far

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<v Speaker 1>you went in school, but that you would denounce all

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<v Speaker 1>of that and believe the fucking bullshit that is coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of Donald Trump and Marjory Taylor Green and JD.

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<v Speaker 1>Vance and Matt Gates in Rohn de Santis's mouth is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely fucking wild. And you wonder what was it like

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<v Speaker 1>living inside of the Dark Ages. Well, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>to wonder. We are here. This is the modern day,

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<v Speaker 1>as Brian Karem, you know, fellow Nerd Avenger said earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this week on Nerd Avengers, this is the technological Dark Ages,

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<v Speaker 1>where we're at a time when we're trying to convince

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<v Speaker 1>people that the world is round and that like a

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<v Speaker 1>man did actually land on the moon, in the age

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<v Speaker 1>of deep fakes and deep, deep, deep fucking distorted disinformation.

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<v Speaker 1>It is absolutely wild. And today I get into a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation with our friend or in house doctor, doctor Jonathan

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<v Speaker 1>Metzel about like how we've gotten here. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make any sense. It's absolutely disheartening and frustrating and

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<v Speaker 1>just like mind numbing trying to convince people that they

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<v Speaker 1>have become their own worst enemy. When you have welcomed

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<v Speaker 1>the likes of Fox News and Donald Trump and the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Party into your home into your life, into your

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<v Speaker 1>mind space. It is like a fucking earworm, right that,

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<v Speaker 1>Just like burrows in they are power sites that are

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<v Speaker 1>eating this country from the inside out. And I am

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<v Speaker 1>just at the time of this recording, am absolutely fucking

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<v Speaker 1>beside myself with where we find ourselves. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan tries to, you know, to help me work through it,

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<v Speaker 1>but Lord help us all because I really do believe

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<v Speaker 1>that it is the end. I really do feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this is the end. This is this is the pivotal moment. Friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We either go over this cliff with a parachute or

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<v Speaker 1>we go over it with a fucking anvil. But either way,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going over the cliff right now. And it is

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<v Speaker 1>just it is alarming. It is alarming. So coming up

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<v Speaker 1>next my conversation with our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel. Folks.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, you know that whenever we have the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to sit and chat with our in house doctor, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Metzel, I am always thrilled because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis, I need some type of diagnosis. Jonathan.

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<v Speaker 1>We're living, as we always say, in extraordinary times, and

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<v Speaker 1>when I think about it, right now, we're speaking as

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<v Speaker 1>another hurricane is barreling towards Florida twice in two weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Historic storms are about to hit, and yet fifty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the population has been convinced by one of the

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<v Speaker 1>two major political parties that climate change is in real

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<v Speaker 1>that what they're experiencing and seeing with their own eyes

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<v Speaker 1>and their own ears isn't happening. That we're being flooded

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<v Speaker 1>and inundated with AI deep fakes of children floating on rafts,

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<v Speaker 1>and being told some of the most egregious lies about

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<v Speaker 1>hurricane relief not happening, about the money being spent on

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<v Speaker 1>migrants as a way to so hate and disorder. And

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get your thoughts, because this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that you have studied, that you know about. I don't understand,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't think that we are talking still even

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<v Speaker 1>nine years later, about how these pervasive lies, how people

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<v Speaker 1>will discount their own thoughts and link on to Donald

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<v Speaker 1>Trump and it will cost them everything, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter so long as it costs the people around them more.

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<v Speaker 1>And I still, Jonathan, nine years later, I still can't

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<v Speaker 1>come to terms with that. Help me, Well, good morning,

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<v Speaker 1>good morning.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm definitely I mean, if there's a diagnosis.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a diagnosis for all of us, which is staying

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<v Speaker 2>afloat in this crazy time. I'm saying hi this morning

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<v Speaker 2>from Saint Cloud, Minnesota, and I'm speaking to four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>people tonight at the Convention Center as part of this

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<v Speaker 2>series called Conversations about Race. And it's a very multi racial,

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<v Speaker 2>multi everything group. And so I first want to say

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<v Speaker 2>that it's hard to see from social media sometimes that conversation,

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<v Speaker 2>real conversations are still happening, because I'm a part of

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<v Speaker 2>one out here today. But it is these moments of crisis,

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<v Speaker 2>these kind of polarizing moments of crisis. And so let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk through a couple points about this. Do you want

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<v Speaker 2>me to start with the most fair part, the most

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<v Speaker 2>fear answer, or the most ever, the most conniving.

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<v Speaker 1>Asser, whatever feels best to you to start with.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So please I get starting. You know, there is

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<v Speaker 2>an agenda of undermining It's not just like racism is

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<v Speaker 2>the means and the ends and the agenda. It's that

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<v Speaker 2>there is always another agenda here. I mean, we just

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<v Speaker 2>learned this morning as we're filming this that while Trump

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<v Speaker 2>was denying COVID, he was sent COVID tests to putin.

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<v Speaker 2>It was breaking news about an hour ago from Bob

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<v Speaker 2>Wooper's book that all these guys were saying this thing

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<v Speaker 2>is fake and all this kind of thing, and behind

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<v Speaker 2>the scenes they dan well knew that COVID was real

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<v Speaker 2>and Trump was secretly shipping COVID stuff to putin, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure vaccines and other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, I guess you just broke that news to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I am just I am speechless. Okay, really, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know, got it.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's stuff about this that is incredibly performative in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that riles people up. But it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>people don't know. And I do feel like there's I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just speculating here just to be clear, but undermining FEMA

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<v Speaker 2>is an agenda that plays to racism, plays to social division,

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<v Speaker 2>place to all the things you're talking about. But then

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<v Speaker 2>if Trump wins, they can get rid of FEMA and

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<v Speaker 2>put Elon Musk in charge and privatize everything and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. So there's a financial agenda here that is

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a bigger agenda than just that. Now that being said,

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<v Speaker 2>I just think that this idea of dismantling government, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like there's going to be no government. It's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be privatized, for profit, unequal targeted, all the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of things. And so in a way, I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important to keep in mind that this is a psychology,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a bias, it's a history, it's all those things.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also tied to a bigger financial agenda, which

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<v Speaker 2>is to monetize certain things and promote certain kinds of

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<v Speaker 2>commerce and screw people over who are already historically disadvantaged.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think that, to me is the number

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<v Speaker 2>one point. I'm just seeing this again with this femous

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<v Speaker 2>stuff the way I saw it before, with the Affordable

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<v Speaker 2>Care Act and anti COVID and all those kind of things.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I think that's probably for me point number one.

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<v Speaker 2>Point number two. I saw AVI here in Minnesota, and

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<v Speaker 2>I flew last night next to a guy who was

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<v Speaker 2>flying this crazy circuitoust route. He was flying back to Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a construction developer and worked in construction, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was going to get his truck and his supplies

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<v Speaker 2>and his coworkers so they could drive down to Florida

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<v Speaker 2>and help people out in the aftermath of the hurricane.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, good salta of the earth kind of guy,

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<v Speaker 2>a really robust guy. We had a long conversation and

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<v Speaker 2>he was telling me how he really wanted to help.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a moment where people, in a matter of

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<v Speaker 2>their ideology, chip in to help each other. He had

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<v Speaker 2>gone to Ashville previously and helped at least rebuild some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of things. But then as we started talking, it

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<v Speaker 2>became clear that he was incredibly anti government and was

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<v Speaker 2>a Trump supporter. So he said, the main thing for

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<v Speaker 2>me is this is a moment where like, we chip

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<v Speaker 2>in and help people, but we don't need government regulation.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't need government telling me what to do. We

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<v Speaker 2>don't need government. While he had this whole diatribe against

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<v Speaker 2>what he called government, and so I said, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I can see your point, right, which is the government

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<v Speaker 2>adds relation to staff. But don't you think you're maybe

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<v Speaker 2>prone to help certain people that seem familiar to you

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<v Speaker 2>and not help other people, Like if it's just random

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<v Speaker 2>of people just chipping in, want to reinforce biases and

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. So we had a long conversation. The

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<v Speaker 2>guy wasn't crazy in fact, I mean, who would just

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<v Speaker 2>drop everything and drive down to help people like it

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<v Speaker 2>was laudable in some ways. But his animosity toward government

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<v Speaker 2>was so deep that the stuff that Trump said really

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<v Speaker 2>resonated with like and the JFK Junior stuff and all that,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get rid of government, let's get rid of regulation.

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<v Speaker 2>And so this mistrust of government is also such a

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<v Speaker 2>deep thread. And I don't know, there's two ways to

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<v Speaker 2>think about that, right, And I went in, yes, government

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<v Speaker 2>does add a lot of regulation. The other hand, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't just have a million random people driving down

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<v Speaker 2>to Florida with lumber and stuff like that, because it'll

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<v Speaker 2>reinforce inequity and be chaos and be disorganized and all

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<v Speaker 2>these kind of things. And so these things are all

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<v Speaker 2>playing out against each other. And I guess I don't

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<v Speaker 2>deny that it's racism and stuff like that, but I

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<v Speaker 2>would also say that there's all these other layers to

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<v Speaker 2>it would have to do with finance and capital and

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<v Speaker 2>governance and all these other things.

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<v Speaker 1>I get the layering, but I would say that the

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<v Speaker 1>foundation is racism, right, Like I don't think that we

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<v Speaker 1>can deny. We always want to say that there are

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<v Speaker 1>all of these other factors, and those other factors have

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<v Speaker 1>to do with economics. And I will always say okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and then run it back one more time, because it

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<v Speaker 1>always starts and ends with racism, this distrust in government

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<v Speaker 1>and what government is doing with your money. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think about this in the story that you just told,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of the regulations, and right now down in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 1>right in the suburbs of Atlanta, you have an entire

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<v Speaker 1>chlorine plume that is over ninety thousand plus residents that

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<v Speaker 1>are down there because of deregulation that happened with these

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<v Speaker 1>chemical plants that are allowed to be in residencedential areas

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<v Speaker 1>and that have navigated loopholes where they don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>follow any rules whatsoever in terms of creating safety measures

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<v Speaker 1>that would mitigate the effects of say a fire breaking

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<v Speaker 1>out inside and then causing extraordinary health damage that we

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<v Speaker 1>won't know. There are certain people that right now are

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<v Speaker 1>saying they have lingering headaches, eye irritation, skin irritation, and

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<v Speaker 1>body aches. But you don't know what the long term

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<v Speaker 1>ramifications are going to be of those illnesses that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from deregulation. And so like, when I hear these things

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<v Speaker 1>that are largely said by white Americans, what would be

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<v Speaker 1>the reason that they don't trust government and that they

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<v Speaker 1>want government to be deregulated because they don't like who

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<v Speaker 1>government is supposedly helping. When it's a majority of people

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<v Speaker 1>that are white and poor that are on government assistance,

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<v Speaker 1>either white and poor or rich and poor that are

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<v Speaker 1>receiving welfare, it's hard for me to navigate eight and

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<v Speaker 1>have conversations when at the core of it, all we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing is looking for euphemisms for racism.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, of course, I mean that's you just

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<v Speaker 2>summarize the talk I'm giving today, and you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a structuralist, right, so of course I completely agree

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<v Speaker 2>with what you just said. But I guess the question

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<v Speaker 2>is what are you going to do about it? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean right now we have a real clear

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<v Speaker 2>choice about what you do about it. But I would

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<v Speaker 2>also say that is anti racism. The answer is changing

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<v Speaker 2>the financial structure. The answer is more government. The answer

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<v Speaker 2>is addressing people's concerns of government. The answer I just

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's important for me at least to know

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<v Speaker 2>people's agendas of how they come to that, just so

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<v Speaker 2>I can know how to kind of push back on

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<v Speaker 2>it a little bit more. Not denying that. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>just funny because for me the issue is in the

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<v Speaker 2>name of racism, divisions are monetized basically, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not surprised that a lot of white people are

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<v Speaker 2>resist that's I live in Tennessee. It's not very surprising.

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<v Speaker 2>But for me, as you know, the answer to those

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<v Speaker 2>divisions is to make structures equitable. And so that's the way.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't try to change people's identity, to increase structures

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<v Speaker 2>where equity is rewarded. But we're in the opposite potentially now,

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<v Speaker 2>which is weaponizing historical divisions. I mean, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>anti Semitism and Islamophobia are also being weaponized right now

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<v Speaker 2>for financial gain in a lot of different ways. And

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<v Speaker 2>so we're just in a movement right now where these

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<v Speaker 2>divisions are being monetized and there's no count, there's no

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<v Speaker 2>what's the reward, right I mean? And so I guess

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<v Speaker 2>part of the issue why this matters I'm talking around

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<v Speaker 2>in circles I apologize, is if Trump wins, this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the whole country. And that's another reason

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<v Speaker 2>to just be worried about. Trump is giving us a

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<v Speaker 2>little hint here of this FEMA thing is exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>everything will be like, which is undercutting every government agency,

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<v Speaker 2>privatizing everything, targeting people who are already at risk, Like

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to be every agency. I mean, FEMA seems

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<v Speaker 2>like an extreme example, but I don't know. You're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see it in healthcare. You'll see it hell in

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<v Speaker 2>the traffic lights and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it will be everything, and it will be targeted

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<v Speaker 1>again directly at people of color, directly at black and

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<v Speaker 1>brown people and those communities, and then it will target

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else. And so it's like again low hanging fruit,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the fact that Donald Trump the Republican Party

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<v Speaker 1>are racists. They are pushing a white supremaist, white Christian

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<v Speaker 1>nationalist agenda, and it begins with sowing distrust in government,

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<v Speaker 1>in agencies and saying that you can only trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how you begin this game of distortion. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I looked Jonathan at the AI photo that Steven Miller,

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<v Speaker 1>Laura Lumer and all of these other right wing people

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<v Speaker 1>with huge platforms retweeted a fake photo of this young

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<v Speaker 1>girl holding a puppy on a raft and saying, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris sent all the FEMA money to Haitian migrants,

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<v Speaker 1>And they retweeted this and they took it down after

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<v Speaker 1>the fact, but guess what, it was already fucking out

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<v Speaker 1>and liked by millions of people. So I'm like, they

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<v Speaker 1>know what they're doing. And the question that you ask

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<v Speaker 1>is a good one, like, well, how do you combat it?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea because by the time a lie

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<v Speaker 1>is around the corner, the truth hasn't gotten out of bed,

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<v Speaker 1>so we can fill them with all of the facts

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<v Speaker 1>and figures and say no, this is wrong, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a lie, but it's already happened. So Jack is already

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<v Speaker 1>out of the box. So at this point I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really sure what it looks like to put it back

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<v Speaker 1>when you have fifty percent of the population that is

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<v Speaker 1>now saying, well, Biden, you know, hasn't provided any relief

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<v Speaker 1>or Fema is broke, and it's just like, wait, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about? And you have Disantis just on

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<v Speaker 1>television yesterday saying we've gotten everything that we've needed from

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<v Speaker 1>the Biden administration and I'm sure they will provide us

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<v Speaker 1>with more he said it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I don't. But the thing is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the argument of dying of whiteness is such a vicious

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<v Speaker 2>cycle that you think it's targeting other people and then

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<v Speaker 2>it comes for you basically. And so the problem with

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<v Speaker 2>FEMA now and Florida, for example, is that it's been

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<v Speaker 2>so undercut and undermined that they actually have massive worker

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<v Speaker 2>shortage for FEMA, so they're actually they have really hurt FEMA,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and a time of climate emergency to not

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<v Speaker 2>be doing more investing in climate is I'm praying that

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<v Speaker 2>this thing takes a right turn or something before it

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<v Speaker 2>hits Tampa. But these things have consequences that are not

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<v Speaker 2>just for the targets of who people will say they no.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that that is the thing that people

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<v Speaker 1>don't get is it goes back to the Martinia Mohler

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<v Speaker 1>poem from World War Two. First they come for right,

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<v Speaker 1>You think that they're going to come for everybody. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I love Donald Trump because we hate the same people.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's going to punish the people that have made

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<v Speaker 1>my life hard in this imaginary type of way. And

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<v Speaker 1>then when all of those people have been punished and

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<v Speaker 1>criminalized in what have you, you're next up to bat

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't understand how many times these things need

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<v Speaker 1>to happen in the course of history for people to

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<v Speaker 1>realize that you are not safe, that Donald Trump is

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<v Speaker 1>not the person who is going to keep you safe,

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<v Speaker 1>who is lying to you on a regular basis and

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<v Speaker 1>grifting off of you because you're that fucking stupid. I

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<v Speaker 1>personally am at a loss right now as I watch

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<v Speaker 1>this devastation hit these areas that are quote unquote red states.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we'll maybe talk about this next week.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really curious about the whole Elon Musk effect here

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<v Speaker 2>also because I mean, there obviously are extreme interesting for

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<v Speaker 2>him of taking over all these things, and so I'm curious,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I guess, I wonder sometimes if Elon Musk had

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<v Speaker 2>done the same thing, but he was supporting causes that

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<v Speaker 2>I believe in, if Elon Musk could come to our side,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, what I think Elon Musk was greater, would

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<v Speaker 2>I still think that he was what he seems to be.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know the Elon Musk effect here.

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<v Speaker 1>No one should have. I mean, here's the thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is me saying this, which is that like, no

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<v Speaker 1>one should have as much power as Elon Musk has,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't care if that is a person that

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<v Speaker 1>is a Democrat or a Republican. One person should not

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<v Speaker 1>have a mass as much wealth and have as much

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<v Speaker 1>influence to do anything. Elon must in general shows me

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<v Speaker 1>that our economic systems are absolutely and totally broken because

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<v Speaker 1>this man is on the verge of becoming a trillionaire

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<v Speaker 1>and we have so much economic disparity in this country

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<v Speaker 1>and in the world. He is emblematic of everything that is.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong, and he's just so unlikable, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>God, and so fucking hard to look at, like as

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<v Speaker 1>a person.

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<v Speaker 2>Just ye, dear God, I just I guess I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>in the back of my mind, I'm thinking, like, is

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk helping Trump right now? Or is he? Or

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<v Speaker 2>is he like even on Twitter? I mean just looking

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<v Speaker 2>what he's done with Twitter and then telling me this

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<v Speaker 2>guy's going to run female like it's you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, I hope you enough

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<v Speaker 2>people will come to their senses. But I guess the

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<v Speaker 2>question of over the top eln mask stuff, I'm curious

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<v Speaker 2>why the Democrats aren't using it more because it's so odious.

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<v Speaker 2>But maybe it speaks for itself.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that, honestly, I think that it speaks for itself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, we also know and we're out of

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<v Speaker 1>time here, but we also know that the numbers that

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk puts up on Twitter about people liking his

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<v Speaker 1>posts and all of the it's all lies. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>inflated lies. And no one is advertising on that broke

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<v Speaker 1>down site because he's absolutely destroyed it and a majority

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<v Speaker 1>of people except for journalists, have fled.

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<v Speaker 2>So to me, the argument then, is is this the

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<v Speaker 2>guy you want running disaster ely for the country. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's really bad at tweeting, and also he's so firstly

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<v Speaker 2>bad at tweeting, So anyway, TB TBD. All right, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have to talk about the boards of equity, So

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<v Speaker 2>how would you be having a positive vibe day here?

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<v Speaker 1>Good Jonathan. As always, we deeply appreciate your analysis and

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<v Speaker 1>we will catch up with you again next week.

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<v Speaker 2>Take care, everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it for me today, Dear friends on Woke

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<v Speaker 1>af as always, power to the people and to all

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<v Speaker 1>the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck.